Did you see when the reporter came to his home either last night or the other night? He stayed outside, told the reporter he couldn't say anything, didn't try to hide.
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Did you see when the reporter came to his home either last night or the other night? He stayed outside, told the reporter he couldn't say anything, didn't try to hide.
I'm assuming Sandusky is guilty, though I will allow for due process.
When I say I'm not passing judgement, I specifically mean the public witch hunt that is going on about who knew what, and what their responsibility was to report it (and to whom).
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Originally Posted by steelerfan
Media is going to hammer this into the ground, if they haven't done so already.
Agreed. I do think Sandusky is guilty of some of what he is accused of. Prime example of a witch hunter is Cory Giger from the ESPN affiliate here in town. He's trying to make a name for himself and he did it. Got on Mike and Mike this morning. The Patriot News is also going all out.Quote:
Originally Posted by steelerfan
Is that the guy that came to his house?Quote:
Originally Posted by psuexv
Not sure but I wouldn't put it past himQuote:
Originally Posted by JBHuskers
I found the video....
http://abcnews.go.com/US/penn-state-...6#.TrchdrKVroo
About :35 in.
I'll withhold judgement a little bit but if what McQueary reported to the grand jury is truthful how in the world does he not report that to the police. Or Joe once he knows? That is my biggest beef right now and I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around it.
We may never know all of those details to a degree but we surely won't know any of them for a while till this thing goes to trial.
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Originally Posted by psuexv
Giger is an A-hole.
I will preface this by saying that I have not read this thread & have no idea where everyone stands on this whole deal but...
Bottom line to me in this whole deal is summed up by what the mother of Victim 6 said "McQueary is a grown man, saw another grown man raping a 10 year old boy in the shower & his reaction was to run away & call his daddy!?"
That right there is enough to make me wanna puke. Then they report it & whatnot & the guy is still around all the time & bringing other little boys to practice & they never even follow up with what happened. That is inexcusable, and if it were me who saw something like that, or was the parent of one of those kids this would've never even made it to trial. That sick fuck would've been dead in that shower.
Joe Pa needs to step down. Also, the difference between this and the Duke lacrosse story is that the Duke story wasn't broken by an official grand jury report. Everything about this investigation screams that they we're crossing their i's & dotting their t's to make sure this all sticks in court.
Yeah that's true Kwizzy, these aren't strippers making the accusations.
Well said and I share the same thoughts right now Kwizzy. I just don't understand how this wasn't reported at all. Disgusting to say the least. :smh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kwizzy
Paterno press conference cancelled, a lot of the term "cowards" is being tossed about my a lot of sports media on Twitter right now.
@darrenrovell Another PR botch by Penn State. Cancelling presser 40 minutes before shows they're still scrambling.
Personally I'm not sure what to think. I'll wait until the trial and what comes out of it. If I feel they get off on a technicality then I will be disappointed. If they truly are guilty then they should serve their time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kwizzy
As for the whole McQueary thing, I don't pass any judgement on him. If I were in his situation it is honestly hard to say what I would have done. We can all sit here and say we'd kick the shit out of the dude doing it and all but I personally doubt that we would. Picture yourself walking into the bathroom where you work and your boss is doing something to a boy. Would you really walk up to him and knock the snot out of him. You would probably go to HR and report it. McQueary was 22 years old, he saw something that disturbed him with a very prominent figure and asked his dad what to do. Then went to Paterno and ended up reporting it to the AD. I'm not trying to start a fight, but I don't see many of us acting any differently.
However this was a press conference about this weeks game, which is still going on and there are a lot of other people's interest in it, namely the players. This wasn't a press conference about the so called scandal.Quote:
Originally Posted by JBHuskers
Regardless, the game isn't until Saturday. This story is going on today. They shouldn't have canceled it at the last minute... that's what makes it look cowardly.Quote:
Originally Posted by psuexv
AP: Scott Paterno says father disappointed & prepped to take ?s about scandal & NU gm
...so why did they cancel it if JoePa was prepped to take those questions?
What they should have done was scheduled a separate press conference.Quote:
Originally Posted by gschwendt
I respect that POV, honestly I do. Obviously I have never been in that situation before but I can say that as a grown man, and human being, you have a moral obligation to help those who cannot defend themselves which is largely what everyone involved has failed to do throughout this whole ordeal. If I saw my boss or anyone else doing something like this, it would not even cross my mind to walk away.Quote:
Originally Posted by psuexv
Word is President Spanier cancelled it without even telling Joe first.Quote:
Originally Posted by JBHuskers
Penn State said to be planning football coach Joe Paterno's departure, sources say - @NYTimes http://nyti.ms/sa6FTP
I completely agree with the moral obligation. However I would feel my moral obligation would be to report it and let the authorities work it out. It is hard to say, as you stated we have never been in that situation, of what we would do. I may say, hey what is going on? and try and get the kid out of there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kwizzy
I guess that's my point, forget what I think I would do. How do you walk away and let that man keep doing that to a helpless child in the hopes that someone could do something about it? You were in the room, you could have put a stop to it right then and there! How the hell do you walk away?! Then you see him with another little boy years after the fact & say and do NOTHING! It's a joke.Quote:
Originally Posted by psuexv
I guess this has been an ongoing investigation for three years....and Penn State kept sweeping it under the rug thinking this would never see the light of day? And I guess Sandusky was at the facilities as early as last week working out.
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That is also where I stand, sure we can all talk tough but bottom line surely it should have been reported to authorities. That is where it all ends for me and makes me even more disappointed in the whole thing. In 2002 this could have stopped and instead was left to go on and to harm other young boys. Not to mention the 1998 thing which could have ended it all then as well, but to stick to McQueary just not sure how this isn't reported to the police first and foremost.
I walk in and see someone fondling a boy/girl naked and stay and call the police immediately. Afterwards I will discuss with my boss and their bosses.
They should have cancelled this PC yesterday mid morning at the latest. Doing it 40 minutes before is retarded and completely dropping the ball.
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And people give me shit for posting duplicate things :smh: :PQuote:
Originally Posted by psusnoop
LOL you deserve it though :D:DQuote:
Originally Posted by JBHuskers
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/451862...lege_football/
Another victim comes forward as well.
A lot of crazy shit. All I'll say is if they're guilty burn'em!!
As far as JoePa...I'm assuming he is at no fault until I hear everything. I just can't believe all the good he's done over the last 40-50 yrs means nothing. There's more to this. There is no telling what JoePa was told by any of these people. It'll break my heart if he took part in sweeping this under the rug.
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Originally Posted by Deuce
This is getting worse as the day goes on.
Trying to find it online, had a friend call me and say on Sportscenter they said that Joe will step down at 6pm tonight.Quote:
Originally Posted by JBHuskers
I find this a little hard to believe but the person wouldn't lie to me either :dunno: But not being able to see anything online makes me this it is BS.
I wouldn't put it past ESPN to just throw that out there either just so they can say they were the first to say it. Even if it's complete BS.Quote:
Originally Posted by psusnoop
Well that is certainly true Kwizzy, we all know how ESPN works. :smh:
Scott Paterno just said that no one has asked Joe to step down. If this is just spin, I dunno.
Soooooo....we gonna keep the name of that Big Ten Championship Trophy?
Paterno needs to step down. Anyone with integrity would call the police the second they found out about this.Quote:
Originally Posted by JBHuskers
Did you read the Grand Jury transcripts? Joe Pa knew and went on record saying he knew. The Student athlete and his father told him directly. All Honest Joe did was tell his superiors. This was a ten or so year old kid being raped in the shower and they all just let it continue. Not only was it a ten year old, Sansusky was intentionally preying on kids from poor or bad family backgrounds that were in a group trying to get help.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deuce
If you have not read the transcripts, do so. See if you can muster through the whole thing without getting a little sick.