NCAA Football 12 - Game Update #2 Details

Well for starters, how about:

Does Title Update # 2 include fixes for the following:

1. An issue/issues where formation audibles for certain formations in custom playbooks are blank/unassigned. Will the user be allowed to select formation audibles and/or the game assign mandatory plays as formation audibles or provide a means for the user to have all four formation audibles for every formation in a custom playbook?

2. Formations groupings (Ace, I-form, Shotgun etc.) and formations within a grouping (Shotgun - Ace, Ace Twins, Normal, etc.) are listed in random order in custom playbooks. Will these be listed in alphabetical or an otherwise meaningful order in custom playbooks post Title Update # 2 install?

3. An issue/issues where custom playbook files get corrupted and game freezes on game load screen in all game modes

These three issues have been asked in multiple threads already, so a simple search should yield more details regarding each of them

Also, when can we expect an answer on this?

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Originally Posted by gschwendt

At this point we don't know anything more than what is listed in the blog. If you guys want to put together a list of top issues that you don't see listed then we can put it together and ask the devs for further clarification. As well, we can see if we can find some information about what gameplay adjustments are likely to be made.

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Editing height and weight... sweet!

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Originally Posted by jaymo76

Editing height and weight... sweet!

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Yep, notice how about a week ago Tommy played it off as it wouldn't be in until NCAA 13, and you call me a tease :P :D :D

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Originally Posted by Buckeye

Also, when can we expect an answer on this?

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At this point we don't know anything more than what is listed in the blog. If you guys want to put together a list of top issues that you don't see listed then we can put it together and ask the devs for further clarification. As well, we can see if we can find some information about what gameplay adjustments are likely to be made.

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Thursday, August 4th at 2:57 pm. Be here for the announcement.

/sarcasm

Seriously, NO ONE can answer that. You'll get the answer when you get the answer.




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Originally Posted by souljahbill

Seriously, NO ONE can answer that. You'll get the answer when you get the answer.
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Unfortunately correct because EA doesn't really give a rip as long as we plunk down our money and then they'll send out little nugget patches later. Its disappointing because I bought my Xbox in May to play NCAA because I heard EA was starting to put out quality NCAA games with an emphasis to the customer, can't say I see it in this version yet

Thanks! I have other commitments at that time, but I'll be rest assured that you will have it all covered - cliff notes, sound bytes and the like for us to read.
/sarcasm

Seriously, the question wasn't directed at you, nor does the quote in your post include any information indicating that a timeline for getting answers is uncertain, so it is not unreasonable to ask when one can expect a response to a question. I request that passive aggressive and trolling-type responses be minimized, or the admins (who are impartial) will be forced to take necessary action against such infractions.

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Originally Posted by souljahbill

Thursday, August 4th at 2:57 pm. Be here for the announcement.

/sarcasm

Seriously, NO ONE can answer that. You'll get the answer when you get the answer.




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This thread is cracking me the hell up. :D

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Originally Posted by Buckeye

Thanks! I have other commitments at that time, but I'll be rest assured that you will have it all covered - cliff notes, sound bytes and the like for us to read.
/sarcasm

Seriously, the question wasn't directed at you, nor does the quote in your post include any information indicating that a timeline for getting answers is uncertain, so it is not unreasonable to ask when one can expect a response to a question. I request that passive aggressive and trolling-type responses be minimized, or the admins (who are impartial) will be forced to take necessary action against such infractions.

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Really? You need to relax man. Souljahbill was in no way trolling. He was giving you a honest answer. The community day guys have no clue when that can be answered. They can ask EA, but odds are even EA will tell them "we don't know yet". Good lord, someone gives you an answer and you accuse them of making "passive aggressive and trolling-type responses". :smh:

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or the admins (who are impartial) will be forced to take necessary action against such infractions.

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ROFL!

Funny how quickly the poster resorts to tattling. He also needs to practice what he preaches. The staff here doesn't work for EA, but they give you a direct voice to EA. A little more kindness instead of being demanding would go a long way.

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I heard EA was starting to put out quality NCAA games with an emphasis to the customer, can't say I see it in this version yet

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Because you don't want to see it yet, as it just easier to bitch from behind a keyboard. Perhaps you should try Backbreaker and rethink the poor attitude.

Relax, guys. :) We'll fire off those questions, but no clue when we'll hear anything back. It sounds like the team is finishing up the update now and then will be submitting it to MS & Sony.


OS Radio reporting that EA is working on a Live Tuning Patch that may be released around the time of Game Update #2.

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Originally Posted by cdj

Relax, guys. :) We'll fire off those questions, but no clue when we'll hear anything back. It sounds like the team is finishing up the update now and then will be submitting it to MS & Sony.


OS Radio reporting that EA is working on a Live Tuning Patch that may be released around the time of Game Update #2.

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Which means maybe around the 20th of the month, within that week or the week after, depending on when they get it done this week and submitted to MS and Sony, and then how long it takes those two to certify it, we'll be seeing the patch show up.

Thank you.

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Originally Posted by cdj

Relax, guys. :) We'll fire off those questions, but no clue when we'll hear anything back. It sounds like the team is finishing up the update now and then will be submitting it to MS & Sony.


OS Radio reporting that EA is working on a Live Tuning Patch that may be released around the time of Game Update #2.

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Originally Posted by JBHuskers

Yep, notice how about a week ago Tommy played it off as it wouldn't be in until NCAA 13, and you call me a tease :P :D :D

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Yeah, I recalled that and was very dissapointed... but not anymore. Great addition and a big thank you to community members for raising the request and Tiburon for implementing it.:up:

I don't understand why EA releases a tuner file at the same time as the patch. Tuning files were created to get around the restrictive patch costs and timelines. The patch is far more powerful anyway. Why not do everything with only the patch and then release tuning files between patches to clean up some things? Honestly, if they release both at the same time like last year, is there really a point in having a tuning file?

Agreed. Look at the NHL team. They release tuning files all the time, sometimes as often as every week or every other week, perfecting areas of the game. They release multiple tuning files between the patches they release. The NCAA team really needs to talk with the NHL team about the tuning files and how to better take advantage of them. The way the NCAA team uses them right now is stupid is hell.

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Originally Posted by Rudy

I don't understand why EA releases a tuner file at the same time as the patch. Tuning files were created to get around the restrictive patch costs and timelines. The patch is far more powerful anyway. Why not do everything with only the patch and then release tuning files between patches to clean up some things? Honestly, if they release both at the same time like last year, is there really a point in having a tuning file?

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Tuners can be unloaded/deleted while still playing the game

They don't cost EA any money to create/implement (besides the normal in house costs)

Tuners can change things by simple tweaks (small variables/code on top of code) whereas changing the base code (patches) for those things is much more involved

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Originally Posted by jaymo76

Yeah, I recalled that and was very dissapointed... but not anymore. Great addition and a big thank you to community members for raising the request and Tiburon for implementing it.:up:

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We'll just call Tommy a reverse tease.

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Originally Posted by morsdraconis

Tuners can be unloaded/deleted while still playing the game

They don't cost EA any money to create/implement (besides the normal in house costs)

Tuners can change things by simple tweaks (small variables/code on top of code) whereas changing the base code (patches) for those things is much more involved

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And tuners can be done on the fly well into the game's lifespan.

I can see why we haven't gotten any tuners yet because I believe that the issues they were working on for this patch were pretty large and complicated issues. I personally am expecting to see a tuner after they send the patch to microsoft/sony. This is a little more reasonable for them to complete all the things they need to complete without multi-tasking too much.

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Originally Posted by JBHuskers

And tuners can be done on the fly well into the game's lifespan.

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Not to put you on the spot but do you know why we don't see as many tuners as games such as the NHL series? Or is it possible they will increase the output of these tuner packages without the need of a patch in the future? What things can a tuner adjust? For example, can a tuner adjust user linemen having Pancake Blocks register?

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Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes

Agreed. Look at the NHL team. They release tuning files all the time, sometimes as often as every week or every other week, perfecting areas of the game. They release multiple tuning files between the patches they release. The NCAA team really needs to go down the hall and talk with the NHL team about the tuning files and how to better take advantage of them. The way the NCAA team uses them right now is stupid is hell.

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Is there a hall from Maitland to Vancouver?? Wow! :D

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Originally Posted by steelerfan

Is there a hall from Maitland to Vancouver?? Wow! :D

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Not literally right down the f'n hall, but you get the idea of what I mean, aka, they need to talk to the NHL team about how they handle and release tuning files. :fp:

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Originally Posted by Unconquered

"Before the end of the month?"

Seriously? That's what? Six, seven weeks after launch? I'll be sick of NCAA 12 by then, and I haven't even been able to use the #1 feature: custom playbooks. :down:

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If you are tired of the game by then thats one you. Most games take about just as long to release a patch worth anything, again it take Microsoft about two- three weeks to approve the damn thing on top of that as a company you would want to include as much as possible because they cost money, I think that is a realistic timeline. I am actually ready for madden to come out so the damn servers will be openly available. :)

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Originally Posted by JBHuskers

Yep...especially with the advance the OD from the web for FREE when it was going to cost originally.

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So for all the people who paid for the feature already to with the other package are getting hosed?

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Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes

The NCAA team really needs to go down the hall and talk with the NHL team about the tuning files and how to better take advantage of them. The way the NCAA team uses them right now is stupid is hell.

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Sorry, but they can't go down the hall. NHL is developed by EA Canada- the world leader in sports games. FIFA and NHL are miles ahead of Madden and NCAA. I wish EA would be smart enough to involve EA Canada into both their football titles.

What about fixing the SOUND of this game! They hyped up the stadium sounds, bands and crowds before the game released and everyone has been complaining how muted the sounds seem to be. Yet no fix for the sounds!!!???
I'm enjoying the game but honestly.....the guys who develop this game REALLY leave a lot to be desired.

I just logged into my online dynasty page today and there's no option to advance from the web for the test OD I created. What gives?

Pasta padre has noted the same thing.

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i'm not gonna lie, but this is a funny thread with the amount of complaining going on. If you don't like it, don't play it. Pretty simple to me. This isn't the first time EA has made mistakes, maybe people should just quietly save their money for 13 and so on. That isn't the case for myself since I know how fickle programming is.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned this but they did not fix the scheduling issue when using the custom conference feature. Schedules get jacked to the point where some teams play more conference games than others. Their highly touted "Custom Conference" feature is completely broken and they did not even touch it in the patch. I really hope they plan on releasing another patch. This is a huge problem when one of your main features is ruined.

Protected rivals not working for Teambuilder teams in dynasty still did not get addressed. Just throwing these out there. These are two pretty big deals IMO that haven't been talked about much.

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Originally Posted by Bamafan3723

I'm surprised no one has mentioned this but they did not fix the scheduling issue when using the custom conference feature. Schedules get jacked to the point where some teams play more conference games than others. Their highly touted "Custom Conference" feature is completely broken and they did not even touch it in the patch. I really hope they plan on releasing another patch. This is a huge problem when one of your main features is ruined.

Protected rivals not working for Teambuilder teams in dynasty still did not get addressed. Just throwing these out there. These are two pretty big deals IMO that haven't been talked about much.

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Can you provide more details?

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Originally Posted by Whammer

What about fixing the SOUND of this game! They hyped up the stadium sounds, bands and crowds before the game released and everyone has been complaining how muted the sounds seem to be. Yet no fix for the sounds!!!???
I'm enjoying the game but honestly.....the guys who develop this game REALLY leave a lot to be desired.

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I wondered about this. It's one of the few 'bugs' I've noticed. What's strange is the crowd noise sounds correct in RTG games.

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Originally Posted by xMrHitStickx904

i'm not gonna lie, but this is a funny thread with the amount of complaining going on. If you don't like it, don't play it. Pretty simple to me.

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I'll never understand that kind of defeatist attitude. I paid $60 -- the game should work as advertised. End of story.

If customers don't speak up and complain, EA is free to march all over them. When I read a comment like yours it just makes me think you have EA tread marks up and down your back. Speak up and fight back, man!

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Originally Posted by Unconquered

I'll never understand that kind of defeatist attitude. I paid $60 -- the game should work as advertised. End of story.

If customers don't speak up and complain, EA is free to march all over them. When I read a comment like yours it just makes me think you have EA tread marks up and down your back. Speak up and fight back, man!

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Easiest way to speak your dissatisfaction for the game is by not buying it. Otherwise, you're just one of the morons that buys it, hates it, and doesn't play it after a few months.

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Originally Posted by xMrHitStickx904

i'm not gonna lie, but this is a funny thread with the amount of complaining going on. If you don't like it, don't play it. Pretty simple to me. This isn't the first time EA has made mistakes, maybe people should just quietly save their money for 13 and so on. That isn't the case for myself since I know how fickle programming is.

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That's fine except for the fact that Madden is exponentially better than NCAA year in and year out, and not only that, but they often actually fix issues that deal with game play in their patches. Last year they tightened up the zone coverage and increased the pass rush which made for a world of difference. The lone difference here: the Madden team develops for the hardcore player while the NCAA team uses dreads, cannons, and graphic upgrades to appeal to the casual audience.

That said, they're actually getting closer to matching the great game play that existed on PS2. The reason they get hammered so much is their own fault. They made GREAT games on PS2, so they're expected to do much of the same this generation, which they have yet to do. I'd say they're close this year, but it still needs a good bit of tweaking before it matches the quality of the PS2 game play. If I had to guess, I'd say next year's version is going to be pretty solid. This year's is as well, but it's just missing too many things and too many things don't work the way they should.

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Originally Posted by Unconquered

I'll never understand that kind of defeatist attitude. I paid $60 -- the game should work as advertised. End of story.

If customers don't speak up and complain, EA is free to march all over them. When I read a comment like yours it just makes me think you have EA tread marks up and down your back. Speak up and fight back, man!

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I'm pretty sure that everything that is/was and continuing to be tested out has been passed on the Dev team from this community. Not sure why you feel like because the Admin here are handling things in a respectful way that they are allowing EA to run all over them. That is just silly and quite frankly WRONG. Everyone here wants the game to work better and have voiced just as much, but the difference is in the approach and delivery.

What would be the better suggestion in your eyes on how to handle NCAA in the future should something not work? :dunno:

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Originally Posted by I OU a Beatn

That's fine except for the fact that Madden is exponentially better than NCAA year in and year out, and not only that, but they often actually fix issues that deal with game play in their patches. Last year they tightened up the zone coverage and increased the pass rush which made for a world of difference. The lone difference here: the Madden team develops for the hardcore player while the NCAA team uses dreads, cannons, and graphic upgrades to appeal to the casual audience.

That said, they're actually getting closer to matching the great game play that existed on PS2. The reason they get hammered so much is their own fault. They made GREAT games on PS2, so they're expected to do much of the same this generation, which they have yet to do. I'd say they're close this year, but it still needs a good bit of tweaking before it matches the quality of the PS2 game play. If I had to guess, I'd say next year's version is going to be pretty solid. This year's is as well, but it's just missing too many things and too many things don't work the way they should.

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There you go again with your opinion:) . Outside of online play Madden is no where near as good as NCAA IMO. I can agree with that last portion though.

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Originally Posted by psusnoop

I'm pretty sure that everything that is/was and continuing to be tested out has been passed on the Dev team from this community. Not sure why you feel like because the Admin here are handling things in a respectful way that they are allowing EA to run all over them. That is just silly and quite frankly WRONG. Everyone here wants the game to work better and have voiced just as much, but the difference is in the approach and delivery.

What would be the better suggestion in your eyes on how to handle NCAA in the future should something not work? :dunno:

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Couldn't agree more!

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Originally Posted by morsdraconis

Easiest way to speak your dissatisfaction for the game is by not buying it. Otherwise, you're just one of the morons that buys it, hates it, and doesn't play it after a few months.

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Ain't no need for name calling. :D :P

I'm almost to 10000....wait no I'm not.

I think it's common sense that I'm giving my own personal opinion when I post, I don't remember saying anything different. I guess I'm going to have to start using this message after every single thing I say.

*This post is based 100% on my own opinion and is not to be considered the opinion of anyone else.* :D

I don't see how I'm supposed to post and not include my opinion. Isn't that the entire point of a forum?

:DYeah I was just giving you grief from our discussion in last month forum feedback. That was all.

So when can I advance from the web? I guess "right now" was secret code for some later undefined point in time? Just logged in again and the button is still not there.