It is a sports bar/restaurant here in Florida. Not sure what other states if any it is in.Quote:
Originally Posted by JBHuskers
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It is a sports bar/restaurant here in Florida. Not sure what other states if any it is in.Quote:
Originally Posted by JBHuskers
I could be wrong, but that doesn't look like a football field. :P
Ooops...no coffee yet....was thinking it was just a random college thread :DQuote:
Originally Posted by cdj
If this one wasn't in DC, I might boycott it just because. :D Darn Northrop.Quote:
Originally Posted by HWill
SI has a 16-team custom playoff simulator on their site, if you're looking to kill time. I've spent about an hour on it myself:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo...010/?eref=sihp
I don't really want to get into a big playoff argument here, but I'm of the mindset of the top 8 BCS schools into a playoff. Don't mess with every conference champion (FIU doesn't deserve to play against Auburn in a playoff), and 16 makes the regular season mean less IMO. Just use the top 8 teams, all other teams go into the old bowl system. Use 7 big bowl locations for the playoffs with the championship location rotating.
One thought I had is that if you wanted to give conference champions an automatic berth, you could just give the top X champions an automatic berth. Using this year for example, it'd be much nicer if the top 6 conference champions (i.e including TCU, but not including the Big East champion) had an automatic BCS berth, rather than the Big Six getting auto berths.
Serious question... do other schools have to contend with the soft-hearted "friends of the coach" "fans" that are more concerned with a coach staying because "he's good for the kids"?
Here was a letter to the editor recently in the local paper
Sadly, when we fired Dickey Nutt (our basketball coach), we had these same morons talking about how good he was for the kids. If that's the case, hire him to be a youth minister for a church... pay him a coach's salary if you like. So irritating.Quote:
Lee should be out
I was sad to hear that Coach Roberts was forced to resign as our coach [at Arkansas State University]. He is a victim of the obsession to win at all costs, I believe.
We have experienced quite a lot of good football in the last few years with his leadership. The young men in the program have been well behaved for the most part. When problems did occur, Coach Roberts handled them very well and professionally. Winning off the field is what is most important not being a top 25 school every year.
I think Dean Lee needs to be forced to resign. He has time and again been a negative force at ASU. He needs to understand that he has failed to be a positive athletic director, doesn’t seem to understand he is the problem, not Coach Roberts.
Coach Roberts is a good man and coach. I am sorry that he has been fired. Thanks, Coach, for being here the last 10 years.
Wins and losses are just stats. Life lived rightly is what is important. I believe that has been Coach Roberts’ legacy.
WVU is going through that right now with Bill Stewart and it's fuckin' disgusting and pisses me off to no end. I don't give a rat's ass if he's changing their lives forever, he's not fuckin' there for that. He's there to win games and continue to elevate the program!
That reminds me of the defense of a poor coach/assistant "Who else would we get?" "Who could do a better job?" "We'll struggle for 3 years while the new coach gets things up to speed." That's like saying a business shouldn't hire the employee who is stealing cash because it'll cost too much to train the new one.
I disagree (assuming you meant fire). The "we'll struggle" argument is more often brought up with coaches who have enjoyed some success, but not reached the level desired by the program. So that's far from someone stealing from the cookie jar ... that's more like a manager who's store is just above breaking even, but isn't as successful as "they should be".Quote:
Originally Posted by cdj
And while every program is different, sometimes the people who say "we'll struggle for 3 years" are right. Especially when there's a major scheme change.
I see your point JHC, but when people act as if anyone else brought in would automatically do worse and that there may not be anyone else worthy of being hired anywhere, the example begins to fit. It was just an analogy; go with the basic point, man. ;)
Well, remember, I have limited experience with coaching changes. Practically everyone thought a lot of coaches could do better than John Cooper by his end. I wasn't around for Earle Bruce and the idiocy of his firing.
I will grant that the letter to the editor that G posted is right in one regard ... it is just as important to have a coach teach the boys and turn out good men as it is to have them turn out good victories. But one shouldn't be in detriment to the other. It's a tough balance to find, though.
That's true - locally, idiotic fans really started emerging out of the woodwork once Osborne retired - coinciding with the rise of internet message boards.
I agree that coaches should be important in maturing and developing the boys into men, but that 'should' be a requirement, no matter the record.
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Originally Posted by JBHuskers
I am. 1) It's not the New Orleans Bowl AGAIN (and after last year's game, THANK GOD) AND 2) the one time Southern Miss didn't go to a bowl game in the last 13 or so years happened to be MY senior year as a student trainer. Our kicker missed 2 field goals versus TCU, giving them the victory which in turn increased Nebraska's strength of schedule, putting them in the national championship game versus Miami. I'm still upset that I never got to go to a bowl game.
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Originally Posted by gschwendt
Randy Shannon had the 3rd highest graduation rate of any division I school I think. He also turned around the thug image at Miami and had the program running clean and smart. But nobody cared and he was fired after going 26-22. If you win, you can have the biggest amount of idiots and criminals on your team and nobody cares (see Florida). But if you lose then those secondary things will be brought up against you.
Temple (8-4) beat UConn (8-4) 30-16... UConn going to BS BCS bowl, Temple passed over for bowl bid...:confused::dunno:
Well, some schools are nuts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudy
Heisman Trio Photobomb (lsufreek)
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Virginia Tech has just sold 6,500 of their 17,500 ticket allotment to the Orange Bowl. In 2008 Tech lost $1.77 million in unsold tickets.
New Mexico bowl has only sold around 8,500 tickets overall.
And these schools aren't losing money by going to shitty bowls that mean nothing...
Then decline the damn bid.Quote:
Originally Posted by morsdraconis
It's not the shitty bowls that aren't selling ... all the bowls aren't selling. Ohio State didn't sell out their Rose Bowl allotment, and it doesn't look like VT is going to sell their allotment for the Orange Bowl either. The entire system is flawed.
Ohio State could be down 12 players including Terrelle Pryor, Dan Herron, Brandon Saine, DeVier Posey and others for the Sugar Bowl, according to reports.
Ouch, that could be absolutely devastating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iron Dragon
Not that I think he's ready, but if this is going to happen does Pryor jump to the NFL this year?Quote:
Originally Posted by cdj
Is he going to be highly regarded in the pros?Quote:
Originally Posted by psuexv
I would think a couple of those guys will take this as a cue to leave early.
Their first game back will be at Big 10 newcomer Nebraska.
Let's make up something to get them suspended one more game :DQuote:
Originally Posted by cdj
I honestly don't see him being a pro QB but he is a heck of an athlete. Would assume there's a place for him somewhere. And if he is going to change positions in the pros why not do it now if he's going to be out 5 games of next season. IMO nothing to really play for.Quote:
Originally Posted by JBHuskers
Obviously just thinking aloud here!
Pryor will get drafted and a good shot at QB. He had a good year, but dropped off the radar following the Wisconsin loss, for whatever reason.
From ESPN_BigTen: "Pryor must repay $2,500 for selling his 2008 Big Ten titlering, 009 Fiesta Bowl sportsmanship award and 2008 Gold Pants."
IMO, he's as good as gone now. If he needs money like that, no point in sticking around for a half season.
The kid sold his trophies? Wow. Yeah if he's that desperate for money he's gone.Quote:
Originally Posted by cdj
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Originally Posted by JBHuskers
You might want him to play that game. Probably be really rusty and probably only getting 3rd team reps up to that week.
But Pryor probably won't be a first round pick. He would be better off waiting another year and getting a higher pick. Of course that could change depending on how strict a new rookie scale would be. The NFL could really screw this up if they make it too restrictive. If the rookie scale is very low a ton of junior and RS sophomores will start jumping early just to start the free agency clock. That's an issue in the NBA and it would be an issue in the NFL.
So a rookie who hasn't played a single down in the NFL deserves $50 million?
Yeah, but is a 7 game season that, for all intents and purposes isn't likely to be very good, really going to change people's perceptions of him? I don't think so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudy
I think it's likely that Pryor, Posey and Herron are gone. Adams is the only one out of that group not likely to jump, but Adams would be in such a doghouse with Coach Tressel that he might just leave the team. Honestly, same problem for the other three ... Tressel's likely to give them a worse punishment, internally.
Chris, here's a better link that your Twitter link: http://www.dispatch.com/live/content...d.html?sid=101
EDIT: We're also losing Solmon Thomas (a backup DE this year but I think he was in line to be a starter next year) for five games and Jordon Whiting, who I think was in a similar depth chart position to Thomas, but at LB, for just the first game.
Idiots.Quote:
As part of their reinstatement, Adams must repay $1,000 for selling his 2008 Big Ten championship ring and Herron must repay $1,150 for selling his football jersey, pants and shoes for $1,000 and receiving discounted services worth $150.
Posey must repay $1,250 for selling his 2008 Big Ten championship ring for $1,200 and receiving discounted services worth $50, while Pryor must repay $2,500 for selling his 2008 Big Ten championship ring, a 2009 Fiesta Bowl sportsmanship award and his 2008 Gold Pants, a gift from the university.
Solomon must repay $1,505 for selling his 2008 Big Ten championship ring for $1,000, his 2008 Gold Pants for $350 and receiving discounted services worth $155.
:smh: at the entire situation.