PlayStation 4 - November 15, 2013

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Originally Posted by LeeSO

When I pre ordered from Amazon last night it said nothing about it being the launch edition. Does that mean I won't be getting it on/around launch? Or does it mean that my pre order is considered launch day since I locked it down last night?

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You have Launch Edition.

To double-check, go to this page and select Launch Edition. At the top it should say "You purchased this item on June 10." You shouldn't see that when the Standard Edition is selected.


I've heard that some GameStop's are saying the XB1 will be out on 11/21 (expected based on website), but that they think the PS4 will be out before that as Sony is looking to undercut Microsoft in every way possible. I don't know how much stock I'd put in it, but that's what I have heard.

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Originally Posted by SCClassof93

Wonder why mine says standard edition? :fp:

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I called Amazon and told them you didn't need it on release day since you only wanted it for the FPS. :nod:

Does yours really say Standard? When did you order?

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Originally Posted by cdj

You have Launch Edition.

To double-check, go to this page and select Launch Edition. At the top it should say "You purchased this item on June 10." You shouldn't see that when the Standard Edition is selected.


I've heard that some GameStop's are saying the XB1 will be out on 11/21 (expected based on website), but that they think the PS4 will be out before that as Sony is looking to undercut Microsoft in every way possible. I don't know how much stock I'd put in it, but that's what I have heard.

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Thanks for this. I'm good. :up:

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Originally Posted by CLW

I called Amazon and told them you didn't need it on release day since you only wanted it for the FPS. :nod:

Does yours really say Standard? When did you order?

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Last night, sigh

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Originally Posted by cdj

You have Launch Edition.

To double-check, go to this page and select Launch Edition. At the top it should say "You purchased this item on June 10." You shouldn't see that when the Standard Edition is selected.


I've heard that some GameStop's are saying the XB1 will be out on 11/21 (expected based on website), but that they think the PS4 will be out before that as Sony is looking to undercut Microsoft in every way possible. I don't know how much stock I'd put in it, but that's what I have heard.

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Originally Posted by SCClassof93

Last night, sigh

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Are you sure that makes zero sense b/c this "launch edition" thing just started tonight? Time to go all Democrat on someone's behind. :nod:

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Originally Posted by CLW

Are you sure that makes zero sense b/c this "launch edition" thing just started tonight? Time to go all Democrat on someone's behind. :nod:

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It worked for me when I tried it. Like I said, last night I saw nothing about a launch edition and BAM, I see it tonight when I folllowed CDJ's instructions.

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Originally Posted by LeeSO

It worked for me when I tried it. Like I said, last night I saw nothing about a launch edition and BAM, I see it tonight when I folllowed CDJ's instructions.

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Cool. There is ZERO difference in a "Launch Edition" and the "Standard Edition" on PS4 (I believe there is for XB1) Amazon just needed to distinguish that they can no longer guarantee release day delivery

GS has the release date for the One as 11/21 as CDJ said, but I believe that's placeholder. I personally believe it's launching with Call of Duty to help sell the system. My guess is first week of November. Sony should be around the same time. Neither one of them is going to give each other much of a head start.

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Originally Posted by I OU a Beatn

GS has the release date for the One as 11/21 as CDJ said, but I believe that's placeholder. I personally believe it's launching with Call of Duty to help sell the system. My guess is first week of November. Sony should be around the same time. Neither one of them is going to give each other much of a head start.

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Yeah I would expect within the same week they both launch but I don't think MS can allow Sony to undercut them again. They are already beaten on price and PR coming out of E3.

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Originally Posted by JBHuskers

Sweet Naitch. We'll have to have some next gen wrestling battles for WWE 2KWhatever. (not sure if this year will be on next gen or not)

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Sounds good. I went ahead and traded in my PS3 this evening. After all the trading in I did today, I only owe $162.13. Not bad for paying nothing out of pocket.

Not sure if someone posted this....but PS4 will be region free.

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Originally Posted by NatureBoy

Sounds good. I went ahead and traded in my PS3 this evening. After all the trading in I did today, I only owe $162.13. Not bad for paying nothing out of pocket.

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What will you play until Nov ?

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Originally Posted by JBHuskers

Not sure if someone posted this....but PS4 will be region free.

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Yep, I did last night. Hard drives are also user replaceable.

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Originally Posted by I OU a Beatn

Yep, I did last night. Hard drives are also user replaceable.

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Any word on total USB ports?

2 of them. Both are USB 3.0.

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Originally Posted by I OU a Beatn

2 of them. Both are USB 3.0.

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I'll have to get an adapter for HDD transfers in the future, and for charging the bluetooth (assuming they're compatible for the PS4).

On the flip side, the Xbox hard drive is NOT user replaceable (as in, you can't use your own drives AND you can't even access it period). However, unlike with the Xbox 360, you can use external hard drives, so storage shouldn't be a problem on any system.

Damn that blows for X1 another knock on point against them ugh.

My real questions ah hell .. I'm preordering the ps4 sadly probably no launch edition but oh well. at 399 its a steal . Now from where is the question.

IGN: E3 2013 - Nyko Debuts Accessories for Xbox One and PS4

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Originally Posted by GatorfanStovy

Damn that blows for X1 another knock on point against them ugh.

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How is being able to finally use external hard drives a knock against them? Not being able to mess with the internal drive is kind of annoying, but being able to swap out drives whenever? Hell yeah.

That is what I meant being able to swap out hard drives. I liked that more on the 360. never had too but nice option.

Proprietary drives and memory are such a ripoff. See PS Vita & 360.

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Originally Posted by GatorfanStovy

That is what I meant being able to swap out hard drives. I liked that more on the 360. never had too but nice option.

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Not really. You had to use one of Microsoft's ridiculously overpriced hard drives. With the One, you wont be able to change internal storage, but I can use my 2TB external drive and NEVER run out of room. If I do, I just get another external drive. It's way better than how it was on 360. A billion times better.

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Originally Posted by I OU a Beatn

Not really. You had to use one of Microsoft's ridiculously overpriced hard drives. With the One, you wont be able to change internal storage, but I can use my 2TB external drive and NEVER run out of room. If I do, I just get another external drive. It's way better than how it was on 360. A billion times better.

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You think storing games on an external won't hinder performance?

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Originally Posted by JBHuskers

You think storing games on an external won't hinder performance?

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I don't see why it would. You could use thumb drives on 360, which I did, and I couldn't tell a bit of a difference. Those were USB 2.0. The One has USB 3.0 and so does my external drive, so I doubt I'll ever run into any problems. I've run Steam games off the same drive and they all ran flawlessly.

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Originally Posted by I OU a Beatn

I don't see why it would. You could use thumb drives on 360, which I did, and I couldn't tell a bit of a difference. Those were USB 2.0. The One has USB 3.0 and so does my external drive, so I doubt I'll ever run into any problems. I've run Steam games off the same drive and they all ran flawlessly.

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Good to know. I might get a thumb drive for the 360 cuz I'm running out of space.

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Well my mom got a PS4 at Gamestop last night so the nephew is getting a PS4 for Christmas. What launch titles do you think would be appropriate for an 11 year old? He LOVES the Show and other sports games and plays them mostly but also plays other age appropriate games (Little Big Planet; Racing/Car games; etc...)

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Originally Posted by CLW

Well my mom got a PS4 at Gamestop last night so the nephew is getting a PS4 for Christmas. What launch titles do you think would be appropriate for an 11 year old? He LOVES the Show and other sports games and plays them mostly but also plays other age appropriate games (Little Big Planet; Racing/Car games; etc...)

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I'd get him NBA 2k14, Madden 25, Drive Club (if he has decent internet), and Knack. Maybe Need For Speed: Rivals as well. Sadly, for an 11 year old, their initial launch games aren't the best.

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Originally Posted by I OU a Beatn

Not really. You had to use one of Microsoft's ridiculously overpriced hard drives. With the One, you wont be able to change internal storage, but I can use my 2TB external drive and NEVER run out of room. If I do, I just get another external drive. It's way better than how it was on 360. A billion times better.

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Exactly. It's basically a tie for both systems on storage.

PS4 you can get bigger storage space, but you have to remove and install a new hard drive yourself. Xbox One, all you gotta do is buy an external drive, as big as you want to because there are no concerns on space (read some of the issues some people have had in the last year or two with trying to get super large hard drives only to not be able to fit them inside their PS3s) and just simply plug it in via USB 3.0.

I've been running every PC/Steam game via USB 2.0 from a 2 TB external drive for two years now, never had a single problem with them. Like I OU, they have run flawlessly. So no reason to expect anything less with USB 3.0 on the Xbox One.

Yoshida was downright giddy in the podcast beyond that was posted last night.

Things of note:

• Possibly other PS4 bundles/skus may be announced later (TBD - but the one announced is the plan for the one to push)
• Happy but not surprised by reaction to its DRM policy
• 1886 - been in work since GOW PSP (3 years)
• Many secrets about other titles 1st Party publishers (ND, Santa Monica, etc...) - "Not announced everything" - more games to be announced at some other conference
• Last Guardian - still working on title but very vague about what "hiatus" means - basically its just not close to being ready for public consumption
• Used Games / Sharing Video / that GT TV Interview - what Jack meant was NO CHANGE IN PS4 FROM PS3 FOR OFFLINE GAMES - ONLY CHANGE IS + REQUIRED FOR ONLINE PLAY - OTHERWISE PS4 EXACTLY LIKE PS3
• Seems the theme of "Greatness Awakes" with marketing may continue to attack MS with sarcastic humor - "In our mind we have to answer questions that may arise and explain that clearly" might include "personality" in our explaining to our customers how our system works
• Not concerned about EA (other 3rd party relationships)
• XB1 exclusives "same games but in different worlds" but were appealing
• On some publishers (Insomniac) leaving Sony and making exclusives on XB1 - We have relationships with publishers and they can decide what's best for them - part of growing up
• Nintendo - owns 2 WiiUs - doesn't check in on WiiU that often - great company and make great games
• Vita - beginning of platform will continue to add features, applications, games
• Indy games very important for PS4 and Vita
• Vita Price Cut - no price move at E3 - that's all he would say
• PS4 launch - "Holiday" US/Europe - still waiting to hear back from manufacturers before announcing actual launch date for US/Europe and no date for Japan
• Yoshida excited about Second Son, The Last of Us and GT6 - platformer favorite genre
• Looking for approx 50/50 balance between new IPs and continuing on with established hits (GOW, UC, etc...)
• 12 new IPs within 1st year of launch
• the new IPs are good/refreshing/healthy for the studios/employees who may become fatigued with making the same game all the time
• Cheaper retail copy box games ($40 games) - marketing will decide what the appropriate price point is lower price point can be good and will be determined on game to game basis - would not say whether the "standard" $60 game price would remain the same - digital games are different than disc games - some will be free to play etc...
• No PS eye in $399 PS4 - The lights on controller still serve function w/o eye (lights will change colors flash etc... if you are being shot/low on health etc...)
• Motion Gaming - we know its great in some situations but becoming clear not all games can be enhanced by camera/motion so we made it a choice for consumer whether to have camera or not
• PS Eye - great for sharing your PS4 content online
• Youtube - not ready to talk about how it can be used with PS4 (sounds like discussions are ongoing)
• PS Allstars - really hope there is a future - happy with game but just hasn't generated enough momentum - sounds like they are done with DLC for the game
• The Last Of Us - Amazed with critical reception of game - knew game would be great b/c of Naughty Dog
• Possibility of T.V. series/movies exclusive to PSN via Sony pictures

My only fear with the XB1 in terms of storage is what happens when the internal HDD fails? Can you install the OS to the external? Do you have to send the entire console to MS?

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Originally Posted by GatorfanStovy

What will you play until Nov ?

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I still have my 360. I'm keeping it.

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Originally Posted by gschwendt

My only fear with the XB1 in terms of storage is what happens when the internal HDD fails? Can you install the OS to the external? Do you have to send the entire console to MS?

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Send it in to Microsoft.

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Originally Posted by CLW

[*]Last Guardian - still working on title but very vague about what "hiatus" means - basically its just not close to being ready for public consumption[*]Used Games / Sharing Video / that GT TV Interview - what Jack meant was NO CHANGE IN PS4 FROM PS3 FOR OFFLINE GAMES - ONLY CHANGE IS + REQUIRED FOR ONLINE PLAY - OTHERWISE PS4 EXACTLY LIKE PS3[*]Not concerned about EA (other 3rd party relationships)[/LIST]

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On The Last Guardian, that's like a running joke now. It was shown so long ago that I don't even care about it now and at this point, I doubt it ever gets released. I'm more curious as to what happened with Agent.

I'd say they're not concerned with EA, although watching a massive exclusive like Titanfall go to the Xbox One is probably a little unnerving. It's not like EA is going to suddenly go full on Xbox exclusive, so I don't see anything to be worried about.

I don't get what the whole online thing is about though. Does that just mean you can still play offline without Plus? I thought they already confirmed that.

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Originally Posted by I OU a Beatn

Send it in to Microsoft.



On The Last Guardian, that's like a running joke now. It was shown so long ago that I don't even care about it now and at this point, I doubt it ever gets released. I'm more curious as to what happened with Agent.

I'd say they're not concerned with EA, although watching a massive exclusive like Titanfall go to the Xbox One is probably a little unnerving. It's not like EA is going to suddenly go full on Xbox exclusive, so I don't see anything to be worried about.

I don't get what the whole online thing is about though. Does that just mean you can still play offline without Plus? I thought they already confirmed that.

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The question was basically re: the GT TV interview that some said meant 3rd parties would just institute the same settings as XB1. Yoshida point blank said no. PS4 is the same as PS3. He said now some games are online only and specifically mentioned MMOs being the only exception.

Yes you can play any offline game anytime with or WITHOUT + or being connected to the internet.

Its the whole IOU v. CLW thing. Basically, he was confirming its CLW. A PS4 game will play offline if it has an offline component regardless of how the game was purchased.

So unless EA decides to take away offline play for NCAA/Madden etc... there will be 0% chance they can stop used games on PS4.

Yeah, you guys make swapping hard drives sound soooo easy. I tried it once and here is the result
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxepl4uqIB1qen75u.gif

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Originally Posted by SCClassof93

Yeah, you guys make swapping hard drives sound soooo easy. I tried it once and here is the result
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxepl4uqIB1qen75u.gif

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Well if I can pull it off on the PS3 anyone can. There is a youtube video that literally walks you through step by step.

OK so I pre ordered my ps4 off of Amazong tonight. Now It won't charge me until it is shipped right? Reason I ask is because i don't have the money right now but when time to ship it I will have the money.

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Originally Posted by GatorfanStovy

OK so I pre ordered my ps4 off of Amazong tonight. Now It won't charge me until it is shipped right? Reason I ask is because i don't have the money right now but when time to ship it I will have the money.

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Yep, not until it ships.

I wonder if you can disable the light bar on the controller. I'm sure you'll get used to it, but just curious.

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Originally Posted by morsdraconis

I'd get him NBA 2k14, Madden 25, Drive Club (if he has decent internet), and Knack. Maybe Need For Speed: Rivals as well. Sadly, for an 11 year old, their initial launch games aren't the best.

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Yeah I was trying to think what game didn't have cutting other people's heads off and/or shooting people in the face in it. Some of the shooters might be o.k. if its just explosions but its definitely a ZERO blood/guts household for the nephew.

When he came over I had to tell him which games he could and couldn't play on my PS3 and he listened.

I didn't think 2K and Madden 25 were going to be ready by Christmas but maybe I'm mistaken. My thoughts were Knack and Drive Club and maybe that other racing/car game thats multi-platform.