Depends on whether you count going independent as a "deal?"Quote:
Originally Posted by gschwendt
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Depends on whether you count going independent as a "deal?"Quote:
Originally Posted by gschwendt
Indications were today that they've officially decided to be Indy. I hadn't heard that previously that I can recall, but it was mentioned today as if it was known.Quote:
Originally Posted by gschwendt
While it's sad to see a conference die, and teams (Idaho and NMSU) get left blowing in the wind), THANK YOU LORD! The WAC will be gone next year and I can FINALLY have truly, 100% realistic conferences in my dynasties without having to deal with the 4 team minimum in a conference crap.
Not that I know enough about the topic but is Idaho financially capable of being an independent in the NCAA???
They're gonna whore themselves out to big schools for the paydays.Quote:
Originally Posted by jaymo76
something will get worked out, Its not like theyll be thrown aside
... they already have been? Every conference, AFAIK, has rejected them.Quote:
Originally Posted by ram29jackson
something will keep them from lowering their already low status LOL. Theyll either be in the MWC or the Pac 12 before its all over. Here come the Super ConferencesQuote:
Originally Posted by JeffHCross
:fp: Yes, Idaho and New Mexico State will be Pac-12 bound, it's only a matter of time.Quote:
Originally Posted by ram29jackson
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why add 4 irrelevant schols just to dismiss a couple others ?Quote:
Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes
odds are these schools and the MAC, MWC and Sun Belt will be sucked into larger conferences soon enough. But what ever, Notre Dame played schools in the 40s that dont exist anymore. It happens, life marches forward.
As silly as Ram sounds, don't be surprised to see the 12-16 team "super" conferences coming soon. All indications are that the Big 12 is going to expand to, at the very least, 12 teams after this season (stealing teams from the ACC). I wouldn't be surprised to see the SEC make a move on expanding as well as 14 teams is a bit silly.
I know the SEC won't expand just for the sake of expanding. They'll stay at 14 if they can't find 2 schools "worthy" of the league. They'd take VA Tech in a heartbeat but since VA Tech comes "packaged" with VA, they aren't biting.
Oh I know it's only a matter of time before super conferences happen. But Idaho and New Mexico State are NOT going to end up in the Pac-12 like ram believes, whatever the fuck he is smoking to believe that. It'd be teams like Air Force, Colorado State, Fresno State, Nevada, even Hawaii. Idaho and New Mexico State would never get even get a friend request on Facebook from the Pac-12 unless the Pac-12 was expanding to 24 or 32 teams or something. Hell, Idaho and New Mexico State can't even get the fucking Mountain West to invite them in, instead getting the cold shoulder from them, the Sun Belt and C-USA. What the fuck would make the Pac-12 suddenly give a shit about two bottom feeder teams that none of the "lesser" conferences even want anything to do with?Quote:
Originally Posted by morsdraconis
Just like the MAC will not be getting sucked into the major conferences, at least conferences that actually matter like the Big 12 or Big Ten. At most, Northern Illinois, Ohio, maybe Toledo and Central Michigan would gain some interest from someone like the Big East, but that would be it. The Big Ten, if they truly wanted to expand beyond 12, would raid C-USA before they would even consider the MAC (the Big East probably ahead of C-USA if the Big East doesn't find the stability they are trying to achieve over the next 3-4 years).
Select teams from the Mountain West, C-USA, Sun Belt and a small handful from the MAC would possibly get invites to "lesser" super conferences, like the Big East or ACC. But not all of them. The rejects left over would just mold together, like the WAC (before the MWC split off) or like the original plan for "joint conference" or whatever the actual term was for the Mountain West and C-USA to join forces last year, into a conference of losers that none of the super conferences want anything to do with other than cheap, easy wins during the season.
Sucks to suck :dunno: a move to the FCS is prolly what's gonna happenQuote:
Originally Posted by JeffHCross
Well, if you're going to include 12 team conferences in the "super" idea .... duh. That's a given. But 16 doesn't seem as likely now as it did last summer. People saw with the SEC's logistical nightmare at 14 that 16 might not be the great idea it was thought to be (by some).Quote:
Originally Posted by morsdraconis
14 teams are definitely a nightmare, but that's always been the case because it's not symmetrical. 16 teams are symmetrical and shouldn't be anymore of an issue than 12 teams are. You play the 7 teams in your division plus 2 teams in a round robin format in the other division with 3 OOC games. Not sure why that's a scheduling nightmare at all. These power conference teams need to quit being pussies and actually play 9 conference games. I know that's the hangup and it's ridiculous. They already play Kickourassatyourplace University three times a year, what more do they want?Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffHCross
I believe, if I'm remembering what I've heard correctly, that part of the issue is that a 9 game schedule leaves them with 5 conference home games in one year, and 4 conference home games the next. And, financially, they have an issue with that (probably because if they have one less conference game they can easily replace it with a guaranteed home game against Directional U).Quote:
Originally Posted by morsdraconis
Well NCAA being the cashcow that it is, maybe the answer with super conferences is to expand the amount of games a school can play by one?Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffHCross
Nah. We can't conflict with final exams, y'know.Quote:
Originally Posted by jaymo76
If they added a week, it would be interesting to see if suddenly we had 10 conference games.
Like the NCAA or BCS ever cared about final exams. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by JeffHCross
I don't know why they ever gave those excuses. All they care about is money, they couldn't give two shits about any final exams. If they cared about them missing classes, you wouldn't have 8 teams flying to Dayton for play-in games on Tuesday and Wednesday, and then 64 teams flying all over the country and playing games on Thursday and Friday (with Saturday/Sunday follow up) for two consecutive weeks.
Well, if you read that article, they contend that schools don't have final exams during March Madness (which, I do believe, is bullshit for Ohio State and any school that is/was on quarters). Also, they casually ignore the fact that moving the BCS Championship to Jan 8th caused Ohio State players (and students, and fans) to miss the beginning of the quarter.
all the FCS schools must have a D+ plus average I guess ?:dunno:
Well yeah, it's not final exams, but unless every school in the tournament is on Spring Break those couple weeks, they're all missing multiple days of classes. But regardless, it doesn't matter, because of the FCS. Heaven forbid the FBS have a tournament because "think of the kids and the classes they'll miss", but yet the FCS teams have been playing a tournament for years with no problem. FCS alone blows any argument against a tournament on the FBS level out of the water.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffHCross
Oh, I know Smooth. I was just pointing out what they went on record as saying in the article :D
Well, it's a good thing you pointed that out, as I only had time to browse the article before, so I didn't see some of that you mentioned. But yeah, still stupid all around. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by JeffHCross
Sent in an email by Navy Sports Information Department, originated from Bloomberg Business Week.
Definitely understandable and not surprising. I was wondering if the BIg East was going to actually keep it's name with it's messed up membership roster now, or try to find something else.Quote:
Big East Conference Considers Name Change After Adding Schools
By Curtis Eichelberger on September 06, 2012
The Big East is taking steps to “tweak” its name now that it includes schools from California, Idaho, Texas, Tennessee and Florida, according to Joe Bailey, the conference’s former interim commissioner.
The Big East has commissioned a study to consider alternative names, Bailey said today at the Bloomberg Sports Business Summit hosted by Bloomberg Link in New York. He wouldn’t say when the names would be presented to conference presidents for their consideration.
“The unintended consequences of adding new schools is that all of a sudden the Big East is a national conference,” Bailey said. “It extends to four time zones in major markets. In one sense, it almost represents the United States in that diversity.”
The Providence, Rhode Island-based conference has eight football teams this season: Temple University in Philadelphia, the University of Connecticut in Storrs, the University of South Florida in Tampa, the University of Louisville in Kentucky, Rutgers University in Piscataway, New Jersey, the University of Cincinnati in Ohio, Syracuse University in New York and the University of Pittsburgh.
Pittsburgh and Syracuse leave in 2013, and the Big East will add Boise State University in Idaho and San Diego State University in California in football, and Dallas-based Southern Methodist University, the University of Memphis in Tennessee, the University of Central Florida and the University of Houston in Texas in all sports.
The U.S. Naval Academy in Annapolis, Maryland, will join the conference in football in 2015, bringing the number of football schools to 13 and the number of programs competing in all sports to 18.
“A brand is extremely important because it tells the marketplace that this is what the Big East stands for,” Bailey said. “There is so much equity in the name, Big East, what do you do with that?”
He said it was more likely the conference will “tweak a little” than come up with a wholesale change to the name.
“Stay tuned,” Bailey said. “There will be a twist to that, but it can’t look less than authentic.”
The Big East announced last month that CBS Sports Executive Mike Aresco had been picked as commissioner. Bailey will serve in an advisory capacity until Aresco gets up to the speed, according to the conference.
Interesting. Definitely makes sense.
Big Least?
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Big America conference?
The Big Repackaged CUSA conference
The We Provided Another At Large Spot Conference, would be a great name :D
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Originally Posted by JBHuskers
And the Big East changes it's mind. Either that or the former interim commissioner and the incoming commissioner never learned to talk to each other.
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Big East plans to keep name after all
Updated: September 8, 2012, 12:21 PM ET
PHILADELPHIA -- Big East commissioner Mike Aresco says there are no plans for the conference to change its name and negotiations are expected to start soon with ESPN on a new TV deal.
Aresco shot down speculation the Big East was considering tweaking its name because of its growth to a four time-zone league. Aresco says, "There's tremendous brand equity built up in the Big East name."
Joe Bailey, the conference's former interim commissioner, had said this week the Big East was leaning toward a name change.
Aresco says there is interest from other networks in the Big East TV package, but the intention is to say with ESPN. The conference and ESPN are in the midst of a 60-day exclusive negotiating window.
Aresco made his first visit to Temple on Saturday to watch the Owls play Maryland.
Copyright 2012 by The Associated Press
http://espn.go.com/college-football/...d-equity-cited
Keep the name but just use the acronym. Welcome to the BEC!Quote:
Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes
Notre Dame plans to join ACC in non-football sports. Will schedule 5 ACC schools per year in football.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/st...e-football-acc
:smh:
Notre Dame suckers some other shitty conference to take them in everything but their most important sport and the dumb ass ACC falls for it.
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Well, at least Notre Dame will have their schedules set every year I guess. Their 6 permanent games (Michigan, Michigan State, Navy, Purdue, Stanford and USC) and 5 ACC teams. I'm guessing we're going to see teams like Boston College, Wake Forest, Syracuse, Duke and North Carolina on the schedule often.
Damn this football RUINING my basketball conference of choice. :smh: So instead of :Duke: playing tobacco road teams 2X (3X if they meet in the ACC tourny) each year they get to travel to the Central Time zone?
At least :Syracuse: and :Pitt: are actually close to the Atlantic Coast. :Notre_Dame: has to be be hundreds of miles away from the Atlantic Coast.
So long Michigan-Notre Dame.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/...gan-wolverines
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ND-Michigan to end after 2014
Updated: September 25, 2012, 7:37 PM ET
By Matt Fortuna | ESPN.com
Michigan is the first casualty of Notre Dame's new arrangement with the ACC.
The Fighting Irish notified the Wolverines that they are exercising a three-year out in their series contract, meaning the last meeting between the historic rivals will occur in 2014.
Through a Freedom of Information Act request, The Associated Press obtained a letter Tuesday from Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick to Michigan AD David Brandon, canceling the games from 2015 to 2017.
The schools had extended their contract in 2007, taking the series through the 2031 season. But it was on a three-year rolling basis, giving either side the chance to opt out with three years' notice.
Notre Dame and Michigan announced this summer that a two-year break is coming in the 2018 and 2019 campaigns, but that they intended to resume the series in the years following.
"Our contract with Michigan has an automatic rollover provision -- with a year being added each time a game is played," Notre Dame senior associate athletics director John Heisler said in a statement. "We needed to avoid the automatic addition of additional games until we can get a better understanding of our available inventory in those years -- an understanding that will develop as we implement our five-game scheduling commitment to the Atlantic Coast Conference."
"The decision to cancel games in 2015-17 was Notre Dame's and not ours," Brandon said in a release. "We value our annual rivalry with Notre Dame but will have to see what the future holds for any continuation of the series. This cancellation presents new scheduling opportunities for our program and provides a chance to create some new rivalries."
The Irish beat the Wolverines 13-6 over the weekend in the latest game of a storied series that dates to 1887. They've played every year since 2002 and regularly since 1978 after not meeting from 1944 to 1977 or 1910 to 1941.
The final two games of the rivalry with take place Sept. 7, 2013 at Michigan Stadium and Sept. 6, 2014 at Notre Dame Stadium.
Brandon told the AP he was handed the letter on the field in South Bend, Ind., about an hour before Saturday night's game.
"I put the letter in my pocket and didn't bother to read it right away because I was focused on the game we were about to play," Brandon said. "I read it on the way home Sunday morning."
"It's unfortunate and a great rivalry and all those things," Michigan coach Brady Hoke said during Tuesday's Big Ten conference call. "But they have to do what they think is best. We'll move on and add some new scheduling opportunities for us."
Hoke said he and Brandon have not met yet to discuss potential future opponents now that Notre Dame is officially off the schedule, but figures they will in the future.
Notre Dame announced Sept. 12 that it would be moving all of its sports except football and hockey from the Big East to the ACC, with the football team agreeing to play five games per year against ACC schools.
Swarbrick said then that he hoped the football scheduling agreement could begin in the 2014 season, and he stressed that Navy, Stanford and USC were the rivals he felt were most important for the Irish to keep on an annual basis.
"While this move is a necessary precaution as we begin the process of meeting our new scheduling commitment to the ACC," Swarbrick wrote in his letter to Brandon, "please know that Notre Dame very much values its relationship with Michigan and we look forward to working with you to ensure that our great football rivalry can continue."
Swarbrick's letter is dated a day before the schools met on the field and cites last year's contract.
"Because I am providing you with this notice prior to the commencement of this year's football game on September, 22, 2012," Swarbrick wrote, "there is no liability to Notre Dame for cancelling those games."
No. 10 Notre Dame (4-0) is in the top 10 for the first time since 2006. Michigan (2-2) started the season No. 8 and has dropped out of the poll after losses to No. 1 Alabama and then the Irish. Both teams have a bye this week.
Brandon said he hopes to work with Swarbrick on another contract to extend the series.
"The ball is in their court because they've triggered the three-game notice," he said. "We'll play them next year at Michigan Stadium for the last time in a while -- it appears -- and we'll make our last scheduled trip to South Bend in 2014. There will likely be nothing on the board for five years after that. Beyond that, I don't know what will happen."
The Wolverines have an NCAA-best .735 winning percentage in football, and the Irish (.732) are second. Michigan leads all-time series 23-16-1.
Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
Off topic, but it REALLY bothers me when you guys post entire articles in quotes. It's borderline copyright infringement when you do that, ya know.