The Walking Dead [TV] (May Contain Discussion of Aired Episodes, Enter at Own Risk)

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Originally Posted by gschwendt

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Morgan returns but in such an unsatisfactory way IMO. He's been the longest running mystery and just was such a bad way to bring it back and not even close the chapter at that (though I bet he never returns again)

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Couldn't agree more. I had a feeling from the opening and Rick talking to him on the walkie that they were bringing him back. But thought it was very unsatisfactory.

I also thought it was completely far fetched for them to go to Rick's hometown. If they really were that close why haven't they gone back before, like all winter when they were running around. I know he goes back in the comics but this just didn't flow right.

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Originally Posted by gschwendt

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Also, regarding the hitchhiker, I really didn't like the fact that he had no weapon or anything yet he's somehow survived more than a year. Obviously there are circumstances that he could be without a weapon but even if I were run out of a camp or whatever, I'd still find a stick or rock or something to carry around with me.

That and it would have been an interesting twist if we somehow discovered after the fact that he was actually a guy that escaped from Woodbury and he could have given them insider knowledge (like Tyrese for the Governor).

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I'm actually glad he wasn't from Woodbury. It's getting a little much with how tied together things are. Kind of like above with them going back to Rick's hometown. I mean they ran around for 9 months in the winter and stayed in one general area but never ran into the governor or Woodbury but now all of the sudden they are close enough to each other to go to war and Tyrese and his group stumble upon Woodbury?

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Originally Posted by bdoughty

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I am just grateful that we got an Andrea free episode.

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My wife said the exact same thing :D I think it was something like "this episode was good, probably because Andrea wasn't in it"

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Originally Posted by bdoughty

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To be fair he could have a gun or knife on him that we did not see, as he was only seen from a distance. He probably had something (small weapon/ammo/food) in his backpack, hence Michonne driving back to get it. You tend not to carry around unnecessary extra weight when zombies are after you. I would add that any character that has been alive that long would be smart enough not to YELL for long periods of time, no matter how badly you wanted that ride.

It was nice to see Michonne break out of her shell this episode, Rick letting her drive was a nice touch at the end.

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Yeah I really didn't quite understand the point of the hitchhiker. Was it supposed to show Rick that if he doesn't help people they are going to die? I'm assuming the hitchhiker is dead since they found his pack

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Originally Posted by JBHuskers

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It's amazing that the Governor hasn't raided all of those guns, but then again, maybe he's tried. It looked like there was fresh blood on that axe.

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Because I don't think they are anywhere close to Woodbury. I think Rick and the gang had to drive a long way to get to his old town, which to me didn't really make sense because they made it seem like it was close. If Rick's hometown was that close they would have went back before or as a cop he would have known about the prison and such.

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Originally Posted by AustinWolv

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Originally Posted by JBHuskers

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http://i.imgur.com/djjQrnj.jpg

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Yeah I really didn't quite understand the point of the hitchhiker. Was it supposed to show Rick that if he doesn't help people they are going to die? I'm assuming the hitchhiker is dead since they found his pack

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Figured it had to do with the fact that Rick and crew early on would go above and beyond to help others the best they could. Now it is purely a group about survival and not trusting others. No holds barred. Clearly, trust issues.

This reviewer deemed it a strong episode as well:
http://www.ign.com/blogs/jamiemad66/...-clear-review/

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Originally Posted by AustinWolv

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Figured it had to do with the fact that Rick and crew early on would go above and beyond to help others the best they could. Now it is purely a group about survival and not trusting others. No holds barred. Clearly, trust issues.

This reviewer deemed it a strong episode as well:
http://www.ign.com/blogs/jamiemad66/...-clear-review/

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Well, after everything with the Governor and Woodbury, I can't blame them. How do you know if once you pull over and let him in, he doesn't try to shoot you, take your supplies and take the car. No way would I trust anyone after everything those guys had been through, especially after the attack on the prison.

Right on, Smooth.

Very very tense episode.

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The conversation between Rick and the Governor was pretty interesting. So was the interaction with Governor's #2 and Daryl, and Herschel and Milton.

Maggie is on this week's Talking Dead. She has a British accent too :drool: HAWT.

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Originally Posted by JBHuskers

Very very tense episode.

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The conversation between Rick and the Governor was pretty interesting. So was the interaction with Governor's #2 and Daryl, and Herschel and Milton.

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And of course Andrea being Andrea. Though I can just see her being the character that does just enough before the confrontation to save Team Rick. Now how important was the last episode? Take away the interaction with Michonne, Rick and Carl and the decision is simple. Even though Rick sees what the Governor really wants, he could have used Michonne as a trap without her knowledge.

P.S. Maggie still has more balls than Glenn.

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Another strong episode IMO. Kept you anxious the entire episode, especially with the Glock under the table. The Daryl and Woodbury #2/Lt. interaction was really done.....it harkens back to the basic fighting man spirit......where warriors respected each other even if they were going to battle....the stories of troops during WWI or WWII for example putting down their weapons to celebrate Christmas together or things like this: German fighter escorts bomber crew
That was interesting because it touched upon the warrior code, whereas the Milton and Herschell interaction touched upon the intellectual side of bonding.

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Originally Posted by AustinWolv

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Another strong episode IMO. Kept you anxious the entire episode, especially with the Glock under the table. The Daryl and Woodbury #2/Lt. interaction was really done.....it harkens back to the basic fighting man spirit......where warriors respected each other even if they were going to battle....the stories of troops during WWI or WWII for example putting down their weapons to celebrate Christmas together or things like this: German fighter escorts bomber crew
That was interesting because it touched upon the warrior code, whereas the Milton and Herschell interaction touched upon the intellectual side of bonding.

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Yeah those interactions definitely are going to add a whole new dynamic to this battle.

I found it interesting that the glock was on the end of the table, but for the 2nd half of this "long" conversation between Rick and the Governor, he sat at the side of the table. Not really a spot for a quick reach. Not quick enough for Rick to draw out of his holster at least. There seems to be some sort of weird mutual respect between Rick and the Governor.

Side by side comparison of the TV characters with the comic book characters...

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...psae0eedcb.jpg

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Originally Posted by JBHuskers

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Yeah those interactions definitely are going to add a whole new dynamic to this battle.

I found it interesting that the glock was on the end of the table, but for the 2nd half of this "long" conversation between Rick and the Governor, he sat at the side of the table. Not really a spot for a quick reach. Not quick enough for Rick to draw out of his holster at least. There seems to be some sort of weird mutual respect between Rick and the Governor.

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I attribute the Gov's actions to being because he's political in his actions and approaches, whereas Rick is the bull in the china shop....he'll throw down then and there. I think Gov recognizes that so he's not going to battle him straight up.....he'll do it by lying, by ambush, by conniving methods versus just squaring off......and Rick senses that as well, given that he doesn't disarm and lets Gov do all the talking......because talkers eventually can't stop themselves from revealing info whereas fighters stay quiet and observe......JMO......

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Originally Posted by AustinWolv

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I attribute the Gov's actions to being because he's political in his actions and approaches, whereas Rick is the bull in the china shop....he'll throw down then and there. I think Gov recognizes that so he's not going to battle him straight up.....he'll do it by lying, by ambush, by conniving methods versus just squaring off......and Rick senses that as well, given that he doesn't disarm and lets Gov do all the talking......because talkers eventually can't stop themselves from revealing info whereas fighters stay quiet and observe......JMO......

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Calling the Governor's bluff is one of the smartest moves Rick has made so far.

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Maybe I'm the only one because i don't think I've read this regarding this last episode but...why in the hell didn't "quick draw mcgraw" Rick just gun the Governor down right then and there and end this mess? Yeah yeah to keep the story going and all but seems to me in that situation based on other events like the hitchhiker and such, there is no honor anymore, gotta do what needs doin'. That was the perfect spot for the Governor to get done.

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Originally Posted by Coach Kernzy

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Maybe I'm the only one because i don't think I've read this regarding this last episode but...why in the hell didn't "quick draw mcgraw" Rick just gun the Governor down right then and there and end this mess? Yeah yeah to keep the story going and all but seems to me in that situation based on other events like the hitchhiker and such, there is no honor anymore, gotta do what needs doin'. That was the perfect spot for the Governor to get done.

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Because The Governor is just that smooth :D

Plus, until then Rick had no idea what he looked like.

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Originally Posted by JBHuskers

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Because The Governor is just that smooth :D

Plus, until then Rick had no idea what he looked like.

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I know for show purposes that was never going to happen but IRL if all things were equal up to that point Rick would have ended that conversation before it started.

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I know for show purposes that was never going to happen but IRL if all things were equal up to that point Rick would have ended that conversation before it started.

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Too many issues with that location. First, if he shoots the Governor, then Daryl and Hershel have to react quickly to take out the hispanic dude and the nerd to keep themselves alive, otherwise one of them most likely end up dead (most likely Hershel).

Second, they didn't know if it was a trap. Hershel was looking all over the damn place when they first got there in the car, then Rick and Daryl were going around the back way between buildings and stuff to get to the meeting place. For all they knew, the governor had a bunch of guys sitting in the woods waiting to ambush them if something happened to him during the meeting. Who knows.

If I'm in that position, I wait until I have him in the open in battle to take him out, instead of take him out in a situation like that and risk being overrun with his men who might be hiding somewhere nearby just in case I do just that.

Okay we have a new episode, should make for a fun hour of TV.

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A few minutes in and there seems to be a lot of Andrea.
15 minutes in and still more Andrea.
30 minutes and WTF is going on here, more Andrea.


"That's right folks it's going to be a Andrea episode.
Stick around for the fun.
Here's the clicker.
No one would blame you."

Thanks Peter, but a little bit late in the game though.


How many times can Andrea be dumber than dirt in one episode?
Could have shot/killed the Governor.
Hides in forest and takes breather.
Runs around in the most open area while being perused.
Runs in creepy building at night.
Did not stick around to make sure Governor dies.
Did not take the Governors truck after escaping (this is my WTF moment of the show).

and now... (borrowed image from another forum)

http://www.abload.de/img/good-answersciu5j.gif

and even more Andrea as she is on the Talking Dead show. :fp:

this one was bad

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Did not take the Governors truck after escaping (this is my WTF moment of the show)

However, it did make for a cool moment at the end as I never suspected him to grab her right at the end

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As a civil rights attorney, I'm not sure she learned how to hot-wire a car. Should she have at least checked the truck for a gun or the keys or something though? Absolutely.

I'll put odds on the science geek killing the Gov. to save Andrea...small odds

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As a civil rights attorney, I'm not sure she learned how to hot-wire a car. Should she have at least checked the truck for a gun or the keys or something though? Absolutely.

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True, keys might not have been in it but the Gov is so egotistical I doubt he took the keys

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Originally Posted by ram29jackson

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Probably the same odds as you using the spoiler tags. For cripes sake it only takes a few seconds and every time you use the spoiler tag a new uniform item is added to Teambuilder for you to play with.

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Probably the same odds as you using the spoiler tags. For cripes sake it only takes a few seconds and every time you use the spoiler tag a new uniform item is added to Teambuilder for you to play with.

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Anyone that cares has already caught up and knows full well that this thread is nothing but spoilers. I'm not sure why people continue to insist on using them truthfully. :dunno:

Also, I guarantee that someone within Governor's own faction kills him. Most likely Tyreese as there's no other reason for him to be on Governor's side (totally different than the comic).

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Originally Posted by morsdraconis

Anyone that cares has already caught up and knows full well that this thread is nothing but spoilers. I'm not sure why people continue to insist on using them truthfully. :dunno:

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Common courtesy? The thread is full of spoilers, hence the use of the spoiler tag. Seems pretty straight forward to me. For someone not spending a lot of time discussing the show it seems odd for you to concern yourself with it.

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Common courtesy? The thread is full of spoilers, hence the use of the spoiler tag. Seems pretty straight forward to me. For someone not spending a lot of time discussing the show it seems odd for you to concern yourself with it.

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Like everything else on this forum, I still read this thread even though I don't give two shits about the show itself anymore. I laugh when you guys talk about how shit the episode is because it just continues to solidify my reasoning for not watching it anymore but I also enjoy just reading discussions from people that I enjoy talking with.

Not sure why we're worried about common courtesy on a forum, but ok. :dunno:

LOL why would i need to put spoilers on something that hasnt or may not happen ? :D

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Like everything else on this forum, I still read this thread even though I don't give two shits about the show itself anymore. I laugh when you guys talk about how shit the episode is because it just continues to solidify my reasoning for not watching it anymore but I also enjoy just reading discussions from people that I enjoy talking with.

Not sure why we're worried about common courtesy on a forum, but ok. :dunno:

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yeah, I only watch it to see how the whole thing ends. Its not ground breaking television, its one of the dumbest shows ever written. But thats what tv's for, amusing yourself with stupid crap half the time. Still waiting for my first favorite dumb show " falling Skies" to come back on :D

I only watch it to see her LOL

http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/bg/M...CZwwDPZSEl.jpg

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LOL why would i need to put spoilers on something that hasnt or may not happen ? :D

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Why else would Andrea need to be saved? Up until this episode she was not in danger.

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LOL :smh:

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Originally Posted by psuexv

this one was bad

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Did not take the Governors truck after escaping (this is my WTF moment of the show)

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My exact thought.

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Lauren (Maggie) and Eliza ... there's a 3some I would kill for.

http://lauren-cohan.org/wp-content/u...013/03/002.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRmChG3Jf_Q

Wow. Tonight's 2nd to last episode of The Walking Dead this season. The ending. Powerful.

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Norman did a great bit of acting there in the whole end of Merle scene.

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When the season started, I thought it was a sure bet the Governor would die in the finale. As time has gone on, I'm not as certain.

It seems all but guaranteed there will be deaths next week, but the prison group is so small I'd guess only one or two bite the big one.

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When the season started, I thought it was a sure bet the Governor would die in the finale. As time has gone on, I'm not as certain.

It seems all but guaranteed there will be deaths next week, but the prison group is so small I'd guess only one or two bite the big one.

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I think the Governor will survive the season.

Outside of expendable characters in the prison (Beth / Carol), I could see Glen taking a bullet for Maggie or Herschel if they're going to do another suprise kill.

I also see Tyrese and Sasha joining Rick's side in some fashion in the finale.