Latest report says he's a game-time decision.Quote:
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Latest report says he's a game-time decision.Quote:
Originally Posted by psusnoop
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul2dh...e_gdata_player
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Jesus: That's because I'm not in everyone's face about it :D
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look..neither the Steelers nor Patriots are making it to the Super Bowl this year, and even if they do because that conference (AFC) appears weak now, neither will win it either LOL..hell, both conferences by and large suck..but the Super Bowl winner will be an NFC team this year again
I did say Packers/Steelers Super Bowl in the preseason :up:
This from the guy who said that the Jets had caught up to the Steelers after week 1. :fp:Quote:
Originally Posted by ram29jackson
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Long way to go, buddy.Quote:
Originally Posted by JBHuskers
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Originally Posted by steelerfan
I did?...didnt the Ravens play the Steelers in week one?.. well,in any case, I am not wrong about this.:cool:
You said the Jets will "shoot past" Pittsburgh. It's in this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by ram29jackson
So, if Pittsburgh or New England won't be in the Super Bowl, who will?
The Ravens? If the Steelers win tonight, Baltimore would likely have to win 3 road games to get there. They are 3-4 on the road.
The AFC West winner?
Houston?
Who?
You better hope it's not the Chiefs. :D
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I'm really surprised where the Total is for tonight's game (38). These teams are 1 and 2 in PPG allowed. I figured the Total would be more like 33. I think they are giving up 29 between them.
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like I said, its a weak conference, but the Pats or Steelers still wont win the SB even if they get there...the Jets did show signs of progression the last 2 years so that was surprising..the problem with parity is; everyone plays to the lowest common denominator and theres no consistency..theres only 5 QBs worth a damn this year, the rest are injured or too young or inconsitant...the Pats and Steelers are quality organizations but their cycles are ending, their QBs, even as good as they are are out of the prime window for success while key parts of their O and D arent what they need to be for a true championship run......all those years of bumping into walls and trees and stuff is catching up to Ben LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by steelerfan
Wow, that's some seriously ignorant stuff. Ben is 29. His "prime window for success"is far from over.Quote:
Originally Posted by ram29jackson
But, I'm glad I can shut off the TV and quit watching. I now know that Pittsburgh and New England can't reach the Super Bowl, and if they do, it's a fluke because the AFC is horrible and there is no way they can beat the NFC. Whatever, dude.
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Not to mention that the Steelers "cycle" has been very consistent for 20 years and they've been contenders more than not for 40 years.
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Originally Posted by steelerfan
man LOL you take things to extremes ... I didnt say they were done with being good and geezers... i said the window is closing for this recent cycle of being the ultimate in dominance and i said they were good organizations, but being one of the top 2 in your division still doesnt mean you dominate the next level..sure plenty of guys play into their 30s..Bens only 29,but he is one beat up 29 year old, you should be able to see that by now.
theres nothing ignorant about what Ive said, i'm 46 and seen these sports cycles take place over and over and over again..nothing new or different is happening..no one said that it was a fluke if they made it, they are good organizations so they will fight to be better than the rest but it does become a little easier when all your competition is a bunch of free agents with no team cohesiveness bouncing around year to year. The Steelers and Pats are good, thats not a fluke, but league wide, competition is much weaker , so, how good are they really?
You said "their QBs are out of their prime windows for success". To say that about a 29-year-old is ignorant. No matter how beat up you think Ben is.
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Oh, and I'm 37 so don't think I haven't seen what you have.
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Originally Posted by steelerfan
if he is beat up for a 29 year old, than he isnt really 29 is he? its football, yes 29 is old for football, the point is, even if he plays for a few more years, he will not be what he was at 26/27..its the rarity that someone is good and successful after 29, not the norm, so no, I am not wrong. 29 is the down side, not the up side of an athletic career..thats not up for debate, its a physical fact.
Tell that to Ben's hero, John Elway.Quote:
Originally Posted by ram29jackson
YOU said he's beat up, not me.
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25 Super Bowl winning quarterbacks (55.6%) were age 29 or older when they won. Again, you are WRONG.
http://football.about.com/cs/superbo...arterbacks.htm
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Big Ben will start tonight afterall.
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Yep. 37 year old Elway would like to say something about 29 and older being on the down side.Quote:
Originally Posted by steelerfan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpJaJM4Cy8o
LOL dude, I did not debate whether they can be successful on a team sport after 29 or not..its a physical fact that you are better at your physical skills at 25 than 29, thats all. Just because 55% of QBs in 46 games were 29 or older doesnt make it the/a norm or even a good thing, they just choose to beat up their bodies longer....Ben,Favre and Elway are exceptions, not the rule, in the life span of a football player and athlete.Quote:
Originally Posted by steelerfan
..and yes, Ben is beat up, he crashes his bike, walks into walls , he's pretty accident prone LOL
Favre didn't win one after 29. :fp:
For you to suggest that a QB is at his best at age 26 is flat out dumb.
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And what the fuck are you talking about that he walks into walls and trees? He crashed when some dumbass old lady ran a stop light. The other shit is in your imagination.
An accident that isn't your fault makes you accident-prone?
I'm done with this. You are brain dead.
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Thank goodness that someone fixed the lights that accident-prone Ben knocked out.
Game on.
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Originally Posted by steelerfan
I didnt say mental best at 26, I said physical best. 26 is better than 29 and always will be on a physical level. Favre not winning a SB after 29 has nothing to do with it.. I said they are the exception of having long successful careers in a sport that beats the crap out of people..if anything though, bringing up Favre proves my point more than it detracts from it because he didnt get there again.
...dang, a power outage in San Fran..looks like they are back up again though
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Originally Posted by steelerfan
no, it was probably a *** militant football fan..or a *** antifootball fan..its San Fran, there was some sort of *** involved in what ever the problem was
delayed till 6 pm pst......
Again I don't know if you want to risk it to Ben..playoffs are big picture.
Hopefully it's a blowout of some sort so he can be rested
Wow. :smh: :fp:Quote:
Originally Posted by ram29jackson
:Pits just a joke LOL ..just a freakin' joke :P just an obvious San Fran Cliche:DQuote:
Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes
power outage :bang: ..seems appropriate to call the place Candlestick park with no lights...
So now, was it really worth it to have Big Ben play tonight instead of sitting out the entire game resting?
Nope..he was limping at the start of the game just as he was last week. Didn't look any better at allQuote:
Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes
And it's not going to feel any better come next week.
for the record, I picked Pitt to win on my ESPN pickem, but I also didnt know Ben was that injured..I'm pre occupied by life as it is right now.
Had no business playing..know it's a big game but I'll take my chances with our defense and a healthy QB on the road in the playoffs over this particular game tonight
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Originally Posted by skipwondah33
Yep. He couldn't even scramble when the pocket collapsed, he had to throw it away and or try and force throws into coverage. The defense didn't even have to keep people to contain Big Ben, because he wasn't running no matter what. Every pass, all they had to do was keep three or four guys down to provide pressure, and drop the rest back into coverage. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot with having him play.Quote:
Originally Posted by skipwondah33
I'm fine with Ben playing. You had a chance to seize the top seed, and you have to take it.
The Steelers are already in the playoffs. They have the Rams and the Browns remaining. They can sit Ben, if needed, and still have a shot at winning both of those games. If they catch a break, and Baltimore loses at Cincinnati, they could still end up as the 2 seed (a Patriots loss is almost unthinkable to get Pittsburgh back to #1, the Pats play Miami and Buffalo).
Now, Ben can sit for 2 weeks before the playoffs. They will likely end up at #5 and play at the AFC West winner in the Wildcard round.
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I realize you have to take the chance, but with the way he was playing tonight, I honestly think they would have been better off, and been more competitive with the backup in there all game than with Big Ben.