NCAA Football 14 at E3

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Originally Posted by ram29jackson

:) I was talking about the other larger majority obviously.

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http://i.imgur.com/fCSkcSI.jpg

Nothin' they do to ultimate team will make me want to play it... Nothing. :D

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Originally Posted by bdoughty

http://i.imgur.com/fCSkcSI.jpg

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Nah, that's just the majority. This is the larger majority. :D

http://cdn.ksk.uproxx.com/wp-content...teelersfan.jpg

Not where I live.

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Originally Posted by Jayrah

Nothin' they do to ultimate team will make me want to play it... Nothing. :D

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I concur. Talk about a waste of time. :smh:

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Originally Posted by morsdraconis

I concur. Talk about a waste of time. :smh:

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Same here. Never played any of the others, could care less about creating some super team. That said there are plenty of people with too much free time and money who will make it worthwhile for EA.

Damn, this thread is FULL of :ram?: today. :fp:

I'm using Tapatalk 2 and the Cleveland Browns STILL suck.

Random question...when does the season ticket version become available? Friday July 5th or the 6th?


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Originally Posted by Deuce

Random question...when does the season ticket version become available? Friday July 5th or the 6th?


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July 5th at 6pm ET I believe.

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Originally Posted by morsdraconis

I concur. Talk about a waste of time. :smh:

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:P there ya go again.

I don't waste money on it but I kind of like the fantasy concept it has.

but even sports video games need more than one mode to keep people entertained.

And I still say they are missing a great idea by not putting Mascot mash up into head to head online matches :up:

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Originally Posted by ram29jackson

And I still say they are missing a great idea by not putting Mascot mash up into head to head online matches :up:

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Great ideas are often limited to the beholder of said great idea. Me thinks that is the case here.

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Originally Posted by AustinWolv

Kwizzy, good response and I :+1: it. Just so it is known, it doesn't bother me one bit that Mad or anyone else is a GC. They've done the content work to be given that role by EA and good on them. The other behind-the-scene stuff doesn't matter anymore and is what it is. At the same time, doesn't matter if it is a GC, just some guy off the street, or a forum regular......if the way they are playing is suspect, then it shows. That is how I read Jayrah's post, not as a shot at Mad or anyone else for providing content, running forums, being a GC, etc. It isn't a shot at them for what they do, as what happens isn't their fault........what happens with the game rests squarely on EA and them either taking feedback or not.
Really doesn't matter in the big picture.

And yes, I'm hoping the demo shows out well tomorrow, I'm looking forward to getting some good NCAA time in with all the hopefully good updates. The series needs what the OS article spells out, so crossing fingers. Well, that and some D revamping still.......and ability to purposely throw in the dirt.......

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Originally Posted by Kwizzy

Yeah I guess this is the part I took issue with:


I promise you that the gameplay team wants to eliminate as much cheese as they can (the way Mad or othe GCs play the game isn't going to affect that), what actually gets done is another story and I'll leave it at that. :D

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Yeah sorry to MadSci for the inadvertent shot :blush: That wasn't my intention at all! I realize he's put in the time and such to be at the event and his efforts to upload video's and the like are GREATLY APPRECIATED by both myself and obviously the entire community. So let me rephrase; Makes me wonder why, while being a gamechanger, and knowing about the cheese that irritates people and talking about "real football" all the time on his forums and such... WHY, he plays a little cheese-ball? :D I would think that with all the time talking about issues like 4 verts and such would help him avoid it in a community play video, as opposed to going to money plays all day from 13 (like a spread counter on the goal line??? Really? Let us see the interaction with the force impact collision stuff there). I don't even know if there was an out-route or drag thrown and they were something I was looking for. I don't mind that he plays the way he plays because that's up to him, but I would think that he'd want to try every route at least once, a few different runs, screens, see if the slide actually works this season for the scrambling qb, etc. Goes to all the trouble to find teams that everybody wants and then doesn't do as much as he could with it I guess is my issue. But again, the efforts to be there for the community to get footage and not just be there for himself is truly selfless and I think we all appreciate that.

Far as the gameplay team goes, the fact that year after year we DO have players showing the weaknesses of something like a 4-Verts on these gamechanger vids and they STILL aren't fixed has me going :bang:. I simply don't understand how you can allow your game to continuously give up the most used play ever and say that you want to get rid of the Cheese :confused:. Nope, it's going to be tough to get me to believe that you really care about getting rid of that stuff while telling us that you have to strike a balance with the "casual gamer". Don't give me that! The "casual gamer" is only casual because you allow him/her to be! If you made football like football I guarantee you the "casual gamer" would catch on and play it just like they do now. Football is the most fun sport of all (or at least in most people's minds), which is exactly why it is America's most loved sport! Make the game of football the way hardcore footballers need, then tune out some of the more "hardcore" features like penalties and such and call it "casual" mode, instead of worrying about things like Season Showdown and the like.

I'm sick of the excuse that it has to cater to the "casual" fan. It's just a shot at the intelligence of gamers that play the game for a month and then move on. Maybe if you made it challenging and made the game play like real football more people would WANT to play it year round. I'll say it again, look at the FPS players all over the age map and how quickly they process things in their games and all they want is more realistic, faster and less clunky. Your average "casual" gamers are like monsters when challenged to play the "real" game of whatever it is they are playing. Just because the kids don't come on the message boards doesn't mean they aren't into a real game of football that caters to hardcore football fans. I'm still not sure I've actually met a casual football fan in real life that wasn't a girl. For them, there's still mascot mode... yes?

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Originally Posted by ram29jackson

:P there ya go again.

I don't waste money on it but I kind of like the fantasy concept it has.

but even sports video games need more than one mode to keep people entertained.

And I still say they are missing a great idea by not putting Mascot mash up into head to head online matches :up:

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Really? Don't think a sock fetish is what we should worry about :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzZoJfB1_Io

any information provided as to how the cpu handles late game situations, ex: playcalling and use of timeouts?

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Originally Posted by gschwendt

July 5th at 6pm ET I believe.

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:up:!!


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Originally Posted by Jayrah

Nothin' they do to ultimate team will make me want to play it... Nothing. :D

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ditto

I tweeted Steve, asking if he had more fun with NCAA 14 or Madden 25 and he said NCAA for the first time in awhile. He preferred the option and the co-ordinator cam.

@rudyjuly2 For the first time in a while, NCAA. Just love the option.

— Steve Noah (@Steve_OS) June 17, 2013

@KennyMack32 @rudyjuly2 Well, I played it a lot more than Madden, simply because of the option and camera angle.

— Steve Noah (@Steve_OS) June 17, 2013

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Originally Posted by Jayrah

Yeah sorry to MadSci for the inadvertent shot :blush: That wasn't my intention at all! I realize he's put in the time and such to be at the event and his efforts to upload video's and the like are GREATLY APPRECIATED by both myself and obviously the entire community. So let me rephrase; Makes me wonder why, while being a gamechanger, and knowing about the cheese that irritates people and talking about "real football" all the time on his forums and such... WHY, he plays a little cheese-ball? :D I would think that with all the time talking about issues like 4 verts and such would help him avoid it in a community play video, as opposed to going to money plays all day from 13 (like a spread counter on the goal line??? Really? Let us see the interaction with the force impact collision stuff there). I don't even know if there was an out-route or drag thrown and they were something I was looking for. I don't mind that he plays the way he plays because that's up to him, but I would think that he'd want to try every route at least once, a few different runs, screens, see if the slide actually works this season for the scrambling qb, etc. Goes to all the trouble to find teams that everybody wants and then doesn't do as much as he could with it I guess is my issue. But again, the efforts to be there for the community to get footage and not just be there for himself is truly selfless and I think we all appreciate that.

Far as the gameplay team goes, the fact that year after year we DO have players showing the weaknesses of something like a 4-Verts on these gamechanger vids and they STILL aren't fixed has me going :bang:. I simply don't understand how you can allow your game to continuously give up the most used play ever and say that you want to get rid of the Cheese :confused:. Nope, it's going to be tough to get me to believe that you really care about getting rid of that stuff while telling us that you have to strike a balance with the "casual gamer". Don't give me that! The "casual gamer" is only casual because you allow him/her to be! If you made football like football I guarantee you the "casual gamer" would catch on and play it just like they do now. Football is the most fun sport of all (or at least in most people's minds), which is exactly why it is America's most loved sport! Make the game of football the way hardcore footballers need, then tune out some of the more "hardcore" features like penalties and such and call it "casual" mode, instead of worrying about things like Season Showdown and the like.

I'm sick of the excuse that it has to cater to the "casual" fan. It's just a shot at the intelligence of gamers that play the game for a month and then move on. Maybe if you made it challenging and made the game play like real football more people would WANT to play it year round. I'll say it again, look at the FPS players all over the age map and how quickly they process things in their games and all they want is more realistic, faster and less clunky. Your average "casual" gamers are like monsters when challenged to play the "real" game of whatever it is they are playing. Just because the kids don't come on the message boards doesn't mean they aren't into a real game of football that caters to hardcore football fans. I'm still not sure I've actually met a casual football fan in real life that wasn't a girl. For them, there's still mascot mode... yes?

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Maybe, he was trying to show the community that running four verts all game won't be a successful offensive strategy this year.

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Originally Posted by countryboy

any information provided as to how the cpu handles late game situations, ex: playcalling and use of timeouts?

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Yup, this is of crucial concern. The 1 minute remaining time out drove me crazy last year. 3rd and 14 from you 20 with 9 seconds left... cpu runs a shot gun draw play...

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Originally Posted by countryboy

any information provided as to how the cpu handles late game situations, ex: playcalling and use of timeouts?

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Originally Posted by jaymo76

Yup, this is of crucial concern. The 1 minute remaining time out drove me crazy last year. 3rd and 14 from you 20 with 9 seconds left... cpu runs a shot gun draw play...

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In March it was still very much a major issue but after we got back, I got word that they found a bug that was causing the issue. My expectations are that, at least in late game situations, it should be drastically improved.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_hf05UqNEs

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Originally Posted by Jahswill

Maybe, he was trying to show the community that running four verts all game won't be a successful offensive strategy this year.

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I mentioned this in the first post that it was a possibility, except he found that it did work most of the time and then went back to it when he needed a first down. Also, he never threw to the outside receiver, he always found the inside guy who was generally WIDE open and threw it immediately. Regardless, I'm more upset that EA allows it to still happen, because they say every year "Oh yeah we want to stop the cheese", yet they never address the one play that gets abused in every cheesy game imaginable. Just like, "Oh yeah you'll be real happy with equipment this year", but then they don't give us the facemask that literally EVERYBODY has been requesting since the end of last season. Really clutch EA. :deadhorse:

More videos from MadScientist, this time Akron at Maryland with a video with NCAA Dev Christian McLeod.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_hf05UqNEs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6R2Uvykw7w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74tO9_HD7vI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5DeONyYzLQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHod7f4BZSk

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Originally Posted by Jayrah

Just like, "Oh yeah you'll be real happy with equipment this year", but then they don't give us the facemask that literally EVERYBODY has been requesting since the end of last season. Really clutch EA. :deadhorse:

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I have never requested ANY facemask and I know a lot of others who haven't either so "literally EVERYBODY" is way off.

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Originally Posted by jello1717

I have never requested ANY facemask and I know a lot of others who haven't either so "literally EVERYBODY" is way off.

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Ditto. Not something that really would upset me. Can list several dozen things ahead of facemasks, sock, shoes, etc I'd rather have.

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The facemask itself not being in doesn't bother me but it is bad form that it has been requested for several years and is considered one of the more popular facemasks in the game. All the while, other facemasks have been added instead. Unfortunately, there are quite a few examples similar to this from Gameplay to Dynasty to Presentation to Equipment... mostly minor things but still things that a sect of fans really want.

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Originally Posted by JBHuskers

Ditto. Not something that really would upset me. Can list several dozen things ahead of facemasks, sock, shoes, etc I'd rather have.

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Yep, medical red shirts for starters.

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Originally Posted by SCClassof93

Yep, medical red shirts for starters.

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Helmets and jerseys, definitely, but they could all have 1-bar facemasks for all I care :D

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Originally Posted by gschwendt

More videos from MadScientist, this time Akron at Maryland with a video with NCAA Dev Christian McLeod.

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I'm only 2 minutes into the 1st quarter, but I gotta say that I LOVE MS trying to say "degrades" but instead coming up with "de-gra-dates" and I also love Ben photobombing Christian's interview.

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Originally Posted by JBHuskers

Ditto. Not something that really would upset me. Can list several dozen things ahead of facemasks, sock, shoes, etc I'd rather have.

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:+1:

One of the minor ones years in waiting is ability to intentionally throw the ball into the dirt.

NICE!

Check out this punt by the CPU @ 5:10 of Q2 of the Akron video. I REALLY hope the CPU can do this more regularly than they did in '13. This is pretty much a perfect punt.

Spoiler: show

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/t...ps7037e072.gif

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Originally Posted by jello1717

NICE!

Check out this punt by the CPU @ 5:10 of Q2 of the Akron video. I REALLY hope the CPU can do this more regularly than they did in '13. This is pretty much a perfect punt.

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Originally Posted by AustinWolv

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One of the minor ones years in waiting is ability to intentionally throw the ball into the dirt.

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What drove me nuts is the CPU's blatant intentional grounding not being called.

For anyone concerned with CPU playcalling in late game situations, check out the 4th quarter of the Akron at Maryland videos... Akron is the CPU and comes back from down 15 in the 4th to tie it. The playcalling and execution is on par with many human players.

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Originally Posted by JBHuskers

What drove me nuts is the CPU's blatant intentional grounding not being called.

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I gave up on that one and chalked it up to a gift to the CPU as a "handicap" for being the CPU. :D

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Originally Posted by gschwendt

For anyone concerned with CPU playcalling in late game situations, check out the 4th quarter of the Akron at Maryland videos... Akron is the CPU and comes back from down 15 in the 4th to tie it. The playcalling and execution is on par with many human players.

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Great to see.

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Originally Posted by AustinWolv

I gave up on that one and chalked it up to a gift to the CPU as a "handicap" for being the CPU. :D

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True :D

Traditions Sports: Fastest Players in NCAA Football 14

The thing I love about the coordinator cam is that it's an "all 22" cam so that I can see all of my receivers, unlike in '13. @ 3:56 of Q3 of the Akron game, the CPU is on the left hash and has trips right. You can't see the outside WR at the start of the play. He runs a streak and from the snap of the ball until the QB throws him the ball, he's never on the screen.

While I've been dying for an "all 22" cam, it looks like in some situations, coordinator cam still isn't it.

I think Wide is the closest thing to an All 22 cam, though that is from a low perspective so that has it's own challenges. Will be interesting to try them all out.

He runs the coolest looking option play I've ever seen (the Shovel pass option), but never does the shovel pass portion of it even though Akron went directly for him twice. :(