Madden NFL 13 - Season Ticket & Retail Impressions

The gameplay is nice. I really enjoy the passing changes the running game is pretty decent too. This Madden has the potential to be the best Madden ever. But way too much crap is broken. If I have to wait for an October patch so that the teams run/pass ratios are correct I will be beyond pissed. How did anyone miss this? Oh yeah. They spent all their time playing against other users and not testing the game for us offline guys against the cpu. This is why the cpu remains stupid and sliders don't always work. All of the focus has shifted to offline play, DLC and MUT to make more money. I feel completely bent over right now.

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Originally Posted by Rudy

The gameplay is nice. I really enjoy the passing changes the running game is pretty decent too. This Madden has the potential to be the best Madden ever. But way too much crap is broken. If I have to wait for an October patch so that the teams run/pass ratios are correct I will be beyond pissed. How did anyone miss this? Oh yeah. They spent all their time playing against other users and not testing the game for us offline guys against the cpu. This is why the cpu remains stupid and sliders don't always work. All of the focus has shifted to offline play, DLC and MUT to make more money. I feel completely bent over right now.

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Rudy my friend, you are a better man than I. Every years since 05 I have purchsed Madden. However, this year I have not. Trust me, a huge part of me wants to... BUT... I just can't. Now I can overlook all the bugs; I can overlook all the glitches, I can even deal with losing custom playbooks, import NCAA classes, etc. but regardless of gameplay I just cannot get over losing editing and picking the cpu uniforms. I agree that the gameplay is superior to NCAA. It's just too bad that CCM... an awesome idea, at this point is a total distaster.

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Originally Posted by jaymo76

Rudy my friend, you are a better man than I.

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I am not better. I am weak! I thought the demo was pretty good despite the lousy presentation replays. I read some bad things before release and I shouldn't have gone through with my purchase I guess. I did get a good trade in offer and didn't spend any money renting.

But if the cpu gameplan of calling far too many run plays isn't fixed soon (ie first patch in two weeks, not the second patch) I will be selling this and re-buying a cheap copy of Madden 12 or passing on football altogether. Madden 13 is a coaster for me with how teams don't behave like they do in real life. It was one of my biggest pet peeves about NCAA - that teams felt way too similar. Madden 13 is even worse now.

Just for reference, only Oakland ran more than they passed last year and 15 out of 32 teams passed at least 60% of the time. Definitely not in the game EA.

http://pick256.wordpress.com/2011/10...-2010-vs-2011/

It looks like player progression may be broken. I'm sure this can be tuned but this is an issue as much for the cpu as the user.

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...on-broken.html

I guess the Infinity engine doesn't apply to height, weight and strength on All-Madden. This guy created a 5'0" 160 pound LT with 5 for strength and 5 in all his pass block categories. Facing 272 pound Courtney Upshaw of the Bears he stone walls him on pass protection every time. Funny but sad. EA does need to account for weight much more but this is why I stay away from All-Madden. The pass blocking starts about 2:00 in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IP86qV6rXOU&feature=plcp

And that doesn't happen on Rookie, All-Pro in practice mode?

I don't play practice mode so I wouldnt know but I've heard different things occur in that mode than in a game for some reason.

Playing another User it is the only way to go ill continue to say

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Originally Posted by Rudy

I guess the Infinity engine doesn't apply to height, weight and strength on All-Madden. This guy created a 5'0" 160 pound LT with 5 for strength and 5 in all his pass block categories. Facing 272 pound Courtney Upshaw of the Bears he stone walls him on pass protection every time. Funny but sad. EA does need to account for weight much more but this is why I stay away from All-Madden. The pass blocking starts about 2:00 in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IP86qV6rXOU&feature=plcp

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Yeah but he has good technique and he's ALL HEART!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQ2RikLLyfM

All heart lol!

I guess all the stadium sounds are listed in the credits but most aren't playing. Markus from EA said they are looking into it. Hopefully it's a quick fix to get those playing again.

I agree with you all, Madden and NCAA are dead, stale, and boring to me anymore. Sames stuff different year,, with a few extras thrown in, gameplay seems to matter to noone. I never play on-line in NCAA and Madden I'm about dynasty and franchise, thats it.

What will EA do with these sports titles when the new Xbox and Playstation consoles come out the Fall/Winter of 2013, how will they react and butcher the titles then, and what will be there excuse's, and will they start out totally generic for the 1st year of the console cycles. I hope not. I'm 55 years old and I'm still waiting for really good football game that runs in HD.

I actually wish the load/start screen you see when the game loads and you fly through that big black n blue room with the NFL logo's n stuff..I wish that was a room you actually could navigate with the menues..it just looks cool...like the year they had the madden training that looked like Tron and the year they had the ring and trophy type Madden shrine

Over at the EA Sports/Madden forums their boards are just being clogged up with negative posts and reposts. To be fair to EA, there have been a few members who have tried to respond the best they can (As a side note, it's fine to be angry at the game but don't make it personal...). However of interest there is a poll asking who would like old franchise mode returned. Currently the vote is 197 votes (98%) to 5 (2%) ... in favour of returning to the old franchise mode. Wow!!!

http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/8935812.page

There seems to be a massive dissconenct between a number of the madden game changers and the a typical madden fan. Most people say the same thing... IE has improved the game while CCM is fairly shallow and lacking of previous features with a number of new buggy features thrown in the mix. It will be fascinating to see how the Madden team proceeds. What will they return via a patch (what can they return via a patch?) and how long will it take? I highly doubt too much can be done but only time will tell. This is the chance for them to show that they do truly value the consumers. I hope they respond in kind.

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Originally Posted by jaymo76

Over at the EA Sports/Madden forums their boards are just being clogged up with negative posts and reposts. To be fair to EA, there have been a few members who have tried to respond the best they can (As a side note, it's fine to be angry at the game but don't make it personal...). However of interest there is a poll asking who would like old franchise mode returned. Currently the vote is 197 votes (98%) to 5 (2%) ... in favour of returning to the old franchise mode. Wow!!!

http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/8935812.page

There seems to be a massive dissconenct between a number of the madden game changers and the a typical madden fan. Most people say the same thing... IE has improved the game while CCM is fairly shallow and lacking of previous features with a number of new buggy features thrown in the mix. It will be fascinating to see how the Madden team proceeds. What will they return via a patch (what can they return via a patch?) and how long will it take? I highly doubt too much can be done but only time will tell. This is the chance for them to show that they do truly value the consumers. I hope they respond in kind.

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the only thing they arent in favor of is the not working part/s...whats not to like when you can still control a whole team?...they dont like that things altered because EA cant keep what they had while altering it. I am sure they intend to put original coach mode back in ( which i dont get?..must be the lazy-est people in the world who want a mode where you just pick a play and watch AI who cant even execute it right for a decade)..whats to be upset about/ the game does what it always has, just with a different menu and a couple add- ons. if people want it back the way it was, that just means it will suck again next year with all the change arounds they keep doing.

get rid of motion blur, it just screws up recording your replays and makes the video crappy

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Originally Posted by jaymo76

However of interest there is a poll asking who would like old franchise mode returned. Currently the vote is 197 votes (98%) to 5 (2%) ... in favour of returning to the old franchise mode. Wow!!!

http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/8935812.page

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Wow. 98%! You can't get 98% of the people to agree grass is green. That's a lot. They did not explain it well nor should have changed the name of the mode from franchise. You can't take that many options out either. Josh Looman is feeling the pressure!

Not sure why they felt the need to combine Superstar mode and franchise. Who will actually take advantage of that?

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Originally Posted by ram29jackson

I am sure they intend to put original coach mode back in ( which i dont get?..must be the lazy-est people in the world who want a mode where you just pick a play and watch AI who cant even execute it right for a decade).

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Originally Posted by Rudy

Wow. 98%! You can't get 98% of the people to agree grass is green. That's a lot. They did not explain it well nor should have changed the name of the mode from franchise. You can't take that many options out either. Josh Looman is feeling the pressure!

Not sure why they felt the need to combine Superstar mode and franchise. Who will actually take advantage of that?

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Plus not to mention it's still essentially two different modes. You either create a coach or a player. Just like you did with franchise and Superstar. You either create a coach or a player. All they did was throw the two under the same menus/options on the main menu and give them different names.

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I am sure they intend to put original coach mode back in ( which i dont get?..must be the lazy-est people in the world who want a mode where you just pick a play and watch AI who cant even execute it right for a decade)..

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That is such a short sided thing to say. Some people just like the strategy behind X's and O's. Pure play calling. More of a challenge. There is no challenge for me personally user controlling players because you can make the dumbest player on the game the best player on the game when you are the one controlling him. Ratings go out the window.

Coach mode, you have to rely on the ratings, rely on play calling, rely on finding the right personnel to fit your offense. User controlling players, don't matter if you get a 88 rated player or a 40 rated player because you are controlling him.

Then you have to think of all the disabled vets out there who simply can't move the sticks as quick or might even just have one hand. Coach mode was the way for them to keep playing the game they love. Since you literally can play coach mode with one hand.

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Not sure why they felt the need to combine Superstar mode and franchise. Who will actually take advantage of that?

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The only logic I see behind is that now they no longer need to maintain two different modes... if you add a feature to one, it obviously works for both now. The only problem is that can also paint you into a corner where something you want to do for Coach Mode is more difficult because it also has to translate to Player mode.

Well I'm a little surprised and dissapointed by EA. After the poll (above) hit 203 for returning franchise mode to 5 for not, the mods deleted the post. I get that they don't like negative posts towards their products but don't resort to deleting posts.

As for the game, I wish I would have seen that trades video earlier... I didn't realise you could see the teams interest simply by putting a player on the block and then scrolling through the teams.