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Originally Posted by Rudy
Except I'm a hoarder and have ADD when it comes to sticking to one game.
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:+1:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudy
Except I'm a hoarder and have ADD when it comes to sticking to one game.
As is evident by your 25% completion percentage. Don't feel bad, I'm just as bad. :D
IGN is doing a live stream re: PS4
http://www.youtube.com/user/IGNenter...?v=TS2eaFGZp4w
This should be interesting. Not sure what they're going to talk about besides a bunch of already talked about concept stuff.
From the stream thus far:
- "Future" of PS - more than just PS4 (PS3 not finished; Vita)
- Vita Price Drop likely coming
- PS4 ties into Vita
- Sony should promote PS4 as "gamer's console" - no kiddie/move shizzle
- Too early for 100% Cloud probably 10 years away
- Uncharted 4 and GOW 4 Little Big Planet 3 to be the big exclusive sellers within the 1st year
- Sony will NOT announce price until MS comes out with their price
- Sony will NOT announce release date until MS does
- Price guess $399 but multiple tiers
- Stream PS3 games b/c not backwards compatible
- Used Games = TOAST but might be able to buy used games and then buy a "keys" (like EA online pass) - and will be good for the industry - publishers hurting b/c of the used game market
- Believes prices will drop for games once digital downloads become more common
- PS+ integrated with the streaming of PS3 games + more cloud storage start out with a "Best Of PS3" collection for your PS4 etc...
- controller will be announced
- Sony gamers are more "hard core" than 360's more "casual" base who "just buy Madden"
- PSN will remain free
- This generation is going to have "performance issues" b/c these systems are not going to be that big of an upgrade from PS3/360 compared to PC
- PS4 with a slight outside shot of just PS not any other name
- likely last multi (at least) console generation
- some random dude got a box of Almonds from Amazon :fp:
That's a laugh! :D :D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by CLW
http://youtu.be/p5iS4g8jAHg
LMAO at WiiU already being at the retirement table. :nod:
I just hope (for no extra cost) PS4 has backwards compatibility; whether it be in the cloud, as long as you put the disc in the system, or something like that.
Very stoked to see where PS+ is going to go with the PS4.
pastapadre tweeted there is a rumor (probably going to be a flurry of rumors in next 24 hours) that PS4 will have a built-in spectator mode to allow others to watch, even if they don't own the game at-hand.
Virtual Heckling, that will work out well.Quote:
Originally Posted by cdj
That would be cool. CDJ buys a game but I'm not sure if its my cup of tea. I ask to spectate while he plays through and I can decide for myself whether or not to purchase the new game or not (since used games are now probably out).Quote:
Originally Posted by cdj
Pasta just tweeted the link but - PS4 = November:
http://kotaku.com/5985356/source-the...ith-your-phone
FYI - allot of "interesting" nuggets in this article: (1) price; (2) phone/tablets; (3) no more free PSN; (4) PS+ now = PS World
Or you realize how big of a cheeser I am and ruin my online street cred.Quote:
Originally Posted by CLW
Or you see JB playing every Disney movie tie-in video game for trophies and realize he has no street cred.
Who knows what will happen, but I had a feeling the days of free PS were going to end with the new consoles. I just hope it is an improved experience worthy of the cost. Phone apps could be pretty cool as well.
My early prediction for the PS4/360 is that they are both going to focus on righting some wrongs of the last console generation (more RAM in PS4, larger disc space for 720 games) but also work to get a constant revenue stream (see below).
There should be a nice leap, but not a huge leap in tech as they realize 1) people cannot/will not spend $500-$700 for a new console and 2) they'll make more money nickel & diming people. $400 or so to start, $10 a month for online features, perhaps an extra $5/month for 'premier service', $10 to unlock used games, plus the cut of DLC put out by studios.
Says the guy that actually PURCHASED the Hannah Montana game.Quote:
Originally Posted by cdj
I thought I would copy some of the Kotaku article since it has most of the info currently being discussed here and on social networks:
Our source—the same reliable source who back in early 2012 told us the codename for Sony's next console and the codename for Microsoft's next console—tells us that there are two models planned for the new machine, and that pricing won't be announced until later this year, possibly around E3. The current plan, our source says, is to release them at $429 and $529, but that could change.
Although nothing is confirmed just yet, as we get closer and closer to the release of Orbis, which Sony is expected to officially announce during an event in New York City tomorrow night, we continue to hear more details about what will ship with the new hardware. Back in January, we learned about the PS4's new controller, which has a small touchpad in the center, and the fancy new user account system that will allow multiple people to log into one console at the same time.
New information revealed by our source suggests that on top of all that, you'll also be able to control the PS4 remotely from your tablet or smartphone. You'll be able to use a mobile device to chat with your PS4 friends or buy games which are then automatically downloaded to your machine, our source says.
Orbis is also following the path first set by Xbox Live: our source says "most" of the PS4's online features will require a premium subscription to use. Sony's new online service will be called PlayStation World, our source says, replacing PlayStation Plus.
(No word on whether that's related to PlayStation Cloud, domains for which Sony registered on Friday. We couldn't find any domains or trademarks registered for PlayStation World.)
Some other tidbits: our source says that every PS4 will come with a PlayStation Eye; that a new spectating feature will let you watch other friends play games from your console's dashboard, even when you don't own the game they're playing; and that the console will support local network play via Vita.
Only a LOSER would purchase Hannah Montana! A REAL man rents it via GameFly gets the :Plat: and returns it before anyone notices he is even playing it. :nod:Quote:
Originally Posted by JBHuskers
I just borrowed it from him :nod:Quote:
Originally Posted by CLW
Well, at least people wouldn't be able to complain anymore about MS charging for Xbox Live Gold. Though even nickel & diming people, I could't see Sony charging those prices. You can get a full year of Live Gold for $60 retail (and usually find it cheap a ton of times throughout the year online). $10 a month would put Sony double what MS charges now.Quote:
Originally Posted by cdj
I just typed a number and wasn't thinking that would be an exact cost. I was more going for and trying to stress the different avenues of income I think Sony will be looking for with the PS4Play.Quote:
Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes
Though, I would guess that Microsoft will make plenty of decisions based upon what they see tomorrow, including some costs.
Holy shit, please, please, PLEASE charge for online services, Sony. The backlash from a decision like that would give me MONTHS of highly entertaining reading.
I don't think they would charge. That's kind of their ah-ha thing they have over Microsoft.
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Originally Posted by I OU a Beatn
Yeah I don't buy it either. I'm pretty sure they have used the "free" thing and perhaps even "always free" re: PSN. Doesn't make sense to me to change just make PS+ worth it. I didn't buy it at 1st but to me its worth it with the free games and auto updates. Add something else as a "bonus" for PS+ and more people will pay for it but a "no frills" online experience should always be "free" (i.e. included with just purchasing the console)Quote:
Originally Posted by JBHuskers
I'll say again, Sony is insane if they don't make it a mandatory charge to be online through PSN. Microsoft has people like IOU by the balls and they're milkin' it for all it's worth (bullshit of raising the price without a sale for Xbox Live to $60). Sony would make just as much if they charged something similar ($50 a year like PS+ is currently priced at). The infrastructure that the money from Xbox Live allows Microsoft to build would be just as good on PSN if Sony had the balls to actually charge for their online services.
And IOU, I laugh my ass off at people like you that blindly follow the Xbox Live hoard and shell out $40-$60 a year for their shitty service, all the while I get the EXACT same services for free on my PC. ;)
Pretty much this as to why I can see Sony making it a mandatory charge. MS has been reeling in money for years now by making people pay for Gold, and millions still buy 360s and pay for Gold, even with the PS3 and it's free online on the market. Sony would face tons of backlash, yes, but I just can't imagine them letting all that easy money that's just sitting there be pissed away for another generation. It was how many years that Sony was gouging money out of their eyeballs with the PS3 before finally turning a profit, when it might not have turned a profit much sooner, but having a $50 a year subscription fee, would have at least cut down those losses however slightly.Quote:
Originally Posted by morsdraconis
Will Sony be fully willing to again piss away all those profits from forcing people to pay for online like MS does? Even with free online, Sony was losing the console wars for much of this generation. To help cut down costs and bring in a profit faster with this generation of consoles, it might be time for Sony to join MS on the dark side and charge for online. As said before, no doubt there will be loads of backlash, but just as many people will simply accept it and pay as there are those who will boycott or sit there online bitching about it.
They don't have you by the balls if you can pay for the service by digging change out of your couch. I've never paid more than $35 a year, which equates to less than $3 per month. That's virtually nothing for the ability to use party chat and play Gears and Halo with my buddies.Quote:
Originally Posted by morsdraconis
BUT, I agree with your general idea. Microsoft proved with Live that if you offer a required service to play online and access online features, people WILL pay it. I would like to think that Sony has realized this and they're going to incorporate something similar. Whether people who play on Playstation know it or not, as you said, requiring a subscription would allow Sony to build the quality online infrastructure that Microsoft has.
I believe this calls for a...Quote:
Originally Posted by morsdraconis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftbm8EZZDqI
It is far from a shitty service. Now stop blindly following the hoard of PC moaners who repeat this shit ad nauseum. Bunch of elitist snobs getting erections over the latest overpriced GeForce or Radeon cards. ;)
wat?Quote:
Originally Posted by morsdraconis
What do you mean what? I can have voice chat with an unlimited number of people at once through Steam as well as Skype (both completely free). I have an extensive friends list of people that I can pop in and out of with at any time to play games with through Steam. I can voice chat with people even if they aren't playing the same game as me through Steam or Skype. I can watch Netflix, Hulu+, NBA League Pass, MLB, NHL, etc all for no extra fee outside of their normal fees through my web browser. I can do everything that Xbox Live offers, for free, thus, my above statement. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffHCross
I was a PC gamer FAR before it was the norm. And Xbox Live is a shitty service that advertises at me when I just want to play a fuckin' game. I don't give a shit about some stupid promotional bullshit that they're doing; If I'm on their console, I want to play a god damn game, not have to look at some flash video playing advertising some shit that I most likely don't give two shits about.Quote:
Originally Posted by bdoughty
And, as for going apeshit over the latest tech, how the hell is that any different than all the PS, Xbox, or Nintendo fanboys losing their shit when a new console comes out? Pot meet kettle on that shit man.
I think you're absolutely right. No more free PSN. Which is fine with me but like you said it better be a good experience and not the debacle that their network is now.Quote:
Originally Posted by cdj
Interesting price points. I think that would be a huge mistake for them to charge $529 for the higher tier of the console though. If they really are looking at ~$500 for the higher tier of the console, then they have learned nothing from their experiences with the PS3.Quote:
Originally Posted by CLW