Red Dead Redemption 2

[JBHuskers]

There was a map leaked which leads people to believe this will be a prequel coming up...

Why fans are excited about this leaked Red Dead Redemption 2 map (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-04-18-why-fans-are-excited-about-this-leaked-red-dead-redemption-2-map)

Wild West follow-up will have larger world, set as a prequel.

http://images.eurogamer.net/2015/articles/1/8/2/4/9/6/6/1460977570.jpg/EG11/resize/600x-1/quality/80/format/jpg

Fans have re-drawn the map with the map of the first game:

http://images.eurogamer.net/2015/articles/1/8/2/4/9/6/6/why-fans-are-excited-about-this-leaked-red-dead-redemption-2-map-146097767263.jpg/EG11/resize/600x-1/quality/80/format/jpg

[steelerfan]

I'd love another RDR. :nod:

[JBHuskers]

I'd love another RDR. :nod:

It was so good.

[SmoothPancakes]

It's been independently confirmed that is the actual map for RDR 2, and also confirmed that RDR 2 will be a prequel, set before Redemption.

I'm itching to pull out and dust off Redemption for the first time in probably two years.

[Rudy]

I started playing the first one but stopped because Madden came out at the time. It was just a copy my brother lent me. It seemed pretty decent.

[marcotte14]

Oh man, those co-op missions were so much fun. Can't wait for another RDR

[cdj]

An announcement seems forthcoming.

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[bdoughty]

An announcement seems forthcoming.

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At this rate it is probably the John Marston and crew DLC FOR GTA V Online.

[bdoughty]

http://i.imgur.com/Kz1DdDL.jpg

[gschwendt]

A guy on Reddit posted this as his speculation... I don't think it will be Abigail (Marston's wife) but it does give further credit to the rumors that this would be a prequel.

http://i.imgur.com/1VZTkpr.jpg

[bdoughty]

I hope it is a prequel. I would not like to continue with Jack because he was a bit of a whinny d-bag. Though if this is the case they would still get my money.

[gschwendt]

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvDTzvUXEAAqQyD.jpg

[steelerfan]

:))

[JBHuskers]

You can already pre-order it :)

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GW8X640/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=U5TJN2U3L7HH&coliid=I179NIKQ2JR28P

[bdoughty]

Yes, can't wait for the trailer.

[cdj]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmA6MrX81z4

[Rudy]

That looked really good.

[steelerfan]

I'm ready. Bring it on!

[JBHuskers]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uxn3RoqTOQ

[bdoughty]

http://i.imgur.com/lyUrTUM.gif

[JBHuskers]

http://i.imgur.com/lyUrTUM.gif

http://tribzap2it.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/quentin-tarantino-golden-globes-2013.gif?w=400&h=225 http://i.imgur.com/lyUrTUM.gif

[bdoughty]

Thread title needs an update. Also there are a few new image at the link.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/05/22/red-dead-redemption-2-delayed-to-spring-2018


Rockstar Games has announced that its upcoming sequel Red Dead Redemption 2 will now be released for the PS4 and Xbox One in the spring of 2018.

http://i.imgur.com/vLrSzGs.gif

[Rudy]

For Canadians you can preorder with Amazon at $30 off for $49.99. Usually there are nice E3 discounts around now so keep your eyes open.

https://www.amazon.ca/Red-Dead-Redemption-Standard-PlayStation/dp/B01M8K0P3K/ref=sr_1_48?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1496963607&sr=1-48

[jaymo76]

For Canadians you can preorder with Amazon at $30 off for $49.99. Usually there are nice E3 discounts around now so keep your eyes open.

https://www.amazon.ca/Red-Dead-Redemption-Standard-PlayStation/dp/B01M8K0P3K/ref=sr_1_48?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1496963607&sr=1-48

That would be me Rudy. Thanks! LOL.



Good deal. I left the page up for the wife... XMAS ideas...

[jaymo76]

I finally finished the backward compatible Red Dead last night. It was an enjoyable game with a great story. That being said, I despise the final mission with Marston.

He was such a likable character but killing him off that way just sucks. Plus the ending was so drawn out with all the ranch activities. While it was poetic justice that his son gets revenge, the ending itself seemed very empty to me.

[bdoughty]

I finally finished the backward compatible Red Dead last night. It was an enjoyable game with a great story. That being said, I despise the final mission with Marston.

He was such a likable character but killing him off that way just sucks. Plus the ending was so drawn out with all the ranch activities. While it was poetic justice that his son gets revenge, the ending itself seemed very empty to me.


If you completely tune out the back story, he was just a sweetie. The ending, John's death was pretty good and fit the narrative perfectly. It was a final Redemption, he knew they only way to save his wife and son was to die. You do have a strange thing for calling questionable-at-best characters, likable. Forget who the last one was but I am sure you could find some redeeming qualities in Gannon. He was just misunderstood by Link and Zelda. His desire to to conquer Hyrule was simply to put in place a system of Government that gave Hyrule free heath care and cookies.

[jaymo76]

If you completely tune out the back story, he was just a sweetie. The ending, John's death was pretty good and fit the narrative perfectly. It was a final Redemption, he knew they only way to save his wife and son was to die. You do have a strange thing for calling questionable-at-best characters, likable. Forget who the last one was but I am sure you could find some redeeming qualities in Gannon. He was just misunderstood by Link and Zelda. His desire to to conquer Hyrule was simply to put in place a system of Government that gave Hyrule free heath care and cookies.

Marston IS likable because he knows exactly what he is and what he has done. For an "evil" character his dialogue is deep and purposeful and he provides a fair insight on the ills of society. Marston isn't a GOOD person and what he does doesn't make up for his crimes but it's easy to have empathy for him throughout the story. Of course it also depends on how you "PLAY" his role but I maxed out his honour ratings.

[bdoughty]

https://i.imgur.com/oap3Msd.jpg

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[bdoughty]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F63h3v9QV7w


http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/09/28/red-dead-redemption-2-is-a-prequel-story-details-new-protagonist-revealed?abthid=59cd11ca57b9b63a5f00000c


Rockstar describes the game as "the story of outlaw Arthur Morgan and the Van der Linde gang as they rob, fight and steal their way across the vast and rugged heart of America in order to survive."

The Van der Linde gang is also known as Dutch's Gang, which the last game's protagonist, John Marston would eventually join (and leave).


Now we get to play a really bad guy. Except for Jaymo who will refuse to use a gun or knife in an attempt to make him a lovable character.

[gschwendt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F63h3v9QV7w


http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/09/28/red-dead-redemption-2-is-a-prequel-story-details-new-protagonist-revealed?abthid=59cd11ca57b9b63a5f00000c




Now we get to play a really bad guy. Except for Jaymo who will refuse to use a gun or knife in an attempt to make him a lovable character.Some on Reddit had the suggestion that the game will/should end with Marston killing the new main character and you take over playing as him afterwards. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.

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[bdoughty]

Some on Reddit had the suggestion that the game will/should end with Marston killing the new main character and you take over playing as him afterwards. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.

That would be a tad awkward, since we already played as Marston and know how his future ends up. Their story has been told. It would be like playing as Dutch van der Linde, etc, hence the creation of Arthur, whose future we do not have any insight into. I am more interested to see if Abigail Marston makes an appearance since the game is focused on the gang. She was a prostitute during that time that rode with and slept with all the members of the gang. That would make for an interesting dynamic as we have only seen Abigail the wife and mother. John fell in love but there is always jealousy and betrayal in situations like this. I hope that we see John Marston in the game but not as a playable character, though it would be great to have him join in a shootout or for some cards.

[Rudy]

New Things We learned from the trailer: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/sep/29/red-dead-redemption-2-new-trailer-things-we-learned-prequel-crocodiles

1) It's a prequel
2) You play Arthur Morgan who is a crook
3) Dutch is the bad guy again
4) There might be heists like Train Robberies
5) The World is bigger
6) Crocs and Bears
7) Bows and Arrows in this game
8) Possible Dual Wielding Guns

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[steelerfan]

https://youtu.be/j86vwzK_Pvk
Horse testicle physics. 🤠

[JBHuskers]

6) Crocs and Bears


https://historymaniacmegan.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/4032718.jpg?w=300&h=300

[JBHuskers]

There are rumors that this will have a PUBG-style multiplayer. Get used to that with a lot of titles.

[CLW]

There are rumors that this will have a PUBG-style multiplayer. Get used to that with a lot of titles.

Yep by the time PUBG's "exclusive" window ends on MS NOONE is going to care on PS4 to play that jenky POS Frisbee deep game.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcmbtWIJ6lc

[JBHuskers]

Yep by the time PUBG's "exclusive" window ends on MS NOONE is going to care on PS4 to play that jenky POS Frisbee deep game.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcmbtWIJ6lcConsidering it's already sold 4M on XB1, I think they'll still be doing okay.

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[CLW]

Considering it's already sold 4M on XB1, I think they'll still be doing okay.

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Wait but EA says they cant feed their own children unless they sell 17 million copies + receive $1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 000 in loot box/microtransaction/pay to win schemes

[steelerfan]

Wait but EA says they cant feed their own children unless they sell 17 million copies + receive $1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 000 in loot box/microtransaction/pay to win schemesHow is Rockstar different? They're still milking millions from GTA V.

[JBHuskers]

How is Rockstar different? They're still milking millions from GTA V.

Which really has nothing to do with the original post of a PUBG-style mode is going to be in RDR 2, but you know, any shot he can take at EA :D

[cdj]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaW0tYpxyp0

[bdoughty]

Preorder bonuses leaked...

https://i.imgur.com/bcnD9sX.jpg


You can't even escape GTA Online by purchasing RDR2. :D

[jaymo76]

That's a pretty lean offering for a pre order IMO.

[bdoughty]

Here all the pre-order and special editions.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2018/06/05/red-dead-redemption-2-xbox-pre-order-bonuses-appear-early

[bdoughty]

Gameplay trailer is coming tomorrow!

[cdj]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw_oH5oiUSE

[Rudy]

The game looks good but am I the only one that things the player/human models are outdated and that the animations look stiff? Kind of looks like a very pretty PS3 game. I won't post that on OS for fear of being flamed but I think some things look a bit off.

[bdoughty]

Looks just fine to me. My only complaint is Arthur Morgan seems like a fairly boring character. Like Aiden Pearce from Watch Dogs dull.

[bdoughty]

Game previews hit today.

IGN


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hE4Yyjnpcig


Gamespot


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdkA-lPSpgo


GameInformer
https://www.gameinformer.com/preview/2018/09/20/the-biggest-takeaways-from-our-red-dead-redemption-ii-hands-on-demo




Breakdown from Resetera poster.

- Has 1st person mode.
- Customisable HUD.
- Each character will have different sets of clothes to coincide with weather conditions.
- Clothing customisations go as far as allowing layering and minor adjustments, like the option to roll up your sleeves.
- You can physically see all your weapons on Arthur's character model--you can hold only hold two sidearms and two long weapons (along with a knife, lasso, and throwables).
- Like the first game you have a range of choices, and your decision affects your honor meter.
- It's possible to shoot weapons out of enemy hands
- Dead Eye now has 5 levels, Level 1 allows for slowdown, Level 2 allows you to paint targets and unleash a barrage of shots, and Level 3 allows you to manually pick your shooting points, etc.
- Gun customisation, such as engravings.
- Beard grows over time, but you can shave.
- You get hungry over time, but you can get fat if you eat too much, effecting stamina.
- Stats like stamina can be raised by doing physical activities (such as in GTA V or Bethesda RPG's).
- When hunting, you can sell the carcass or take it to the butchers for meat. If you leave it too long, it'll rot.
- Your camp will not wait for you. Members of your gang who reside at camp will come and go, and finding out where exactly they've gone from others will be the basis of a number of quests and side quests.
- You can name your horse.



Yes, First person mode is what I need.

[bdoughty]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dniw0fnXsAAynia.jpg:large

[bdoughty]

Honor is deeply integrated into the game, and works in the background to influence interactions with the world and its characters from moment to moment. While Arthur is an unrepentant outlaw, you still get to decide what kind of outlaw he is. Arthur’s honor will change based on the choices made in his daily activities, and varying levels of honor will have different consequences and opportunities – not all of them immediately obvious.

For example, if playing as a more dishonorable character, the world will respond to you differently - robberies will pay more, it will be easier to intimidate witnesses and kill shots will be more intense.

If playing honorably, bounty hunting jobs will pay more, and kill shots will be more heroic.

Your honor will subtly shift back and forth based on the choices you make as you play.


https://i.imgur.com/dTJuvfz.jpg

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[bdoughty]

79 AMAZING LITTLE DETAILS IN RED DEAD REDEMPTION 2

https://www.ign.com/articles/2018/09/20/79-amazing-little-details-in-red-dead-redemption-2

29) Horses poop dynamically.

From Dynamic sweat to Dynamic Poop. 2K knows dynamics.


Kotaku did one up IGN, in regards to horses.

https://kotaku.com/two-hours-with-the-amazingly-detailed-red-dead-redempti-1829187487



I was told that horses come in various breeds, and that you can bond with them and learn new skills, like a dramatic skid-stop or a dressage side-step. After seeing the game’s first trailer, we and others had wondered if the horse’s testicles were animated. I asked, and they told me that the testicles shrink and expand depending on the temperature in the game world. Details, details.

[Rudy]

Some of those RPG elements seem excessively deep. I hope fans enjoy eating and changing clothes. Not sure about some of that stuff.

[bdoughty]

Some of those RPG elements seem excessively deep. I hope fans enjoy eating and changing clothes. Not sure about some of that stuff.

You are looking at it as work, I see the potential. Fat CJ was a blast to play with. Rockstar knows what they are doing.

https://i.imgur.com/g3HHauc.png

[jaymo76]

On the Christmas list but I won’t be jumping at the launch. With so much under the hood Expect a lot of bugs at launch. I Look forward to all the impressions though.

[bdoughty]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHH4pobfuqM

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[Rudy]

90 freaking GB install. Holy crap.

[bdoughty]

90 freaking GB install. Holy crap.

Realistic Horse Testicles don't come cheap. Might also be the rest of the 300,000 animations and 500,000 lines of dialogue read by 700+ SAG Actors.

[Rudy]

The time spent on this game is crazy.

[bdoughty]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVRzx17WHVk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmwFtOJaOcA

[bdoughty]

90 freaking GB install. Holy crap.


Rockstar finally gives the exacts on game size... Glad the preload starts tomorrow. PS4 Digital requires extra space to unpack the data, it will end up being 99GB once completed.

https://support.rockstargames.com/articles/360010842353/Red-Dead-Redemption-2-Installation-Requirements

Red Dead Redemption 2: Installation Requirements
Created October 18, 2018

Question: How much space will I need on my platform to install Red Dead Redemption 2?

Answer: The amount of space required to install Red Dead Redemption 2 depends on the platform you are using, and the method of installation:

Disc Installation:

PS4 - 99 GB installation space
Xbox One - 107 GB installation space

Digital Installation:

PS4 - 99 GB installation space with an additional 50GB for the installation process
Xbox One - 107 GB installation space

[Rudy]

I'm getting the Pro next Friday and installing a 1 TB external. I'm actually removing the 1 TB I had put in my OG PS4 and re-installing the 500 GB one. I have an external drive case I will slip the 1 TB into and just use it for that purpose.

It's funny. I never thought 1 TB wouldn't be enough space. But with myself, two kids and their PSVR games, I can't put any and every game I want on the system. 2 TB gives a lot more breathing room, especially since 100 GB is just taken up by the system.

[SmoothPancakes]

I'm so happy I spent the extra money and got a 4 TB external drive a year or two ago. I'll have to go and count how many games I actually have installed on that thing currently, but it is without a doubt well over 50. May even be approaching 100 at this point between the PS+ freebies and new games released this year as well as the crap ton of games I've bought this past year during various Flash Sales and other weekly sales. And last I looked, I still had over 1 or 1.5 TB of space free.

[bdoughty]

So far so good. Ended up only being 88gb so far. Let it download while I slept and it is ready to go. I am sure there will be a patch before the game releases that will require another chunk.

Disc buyers get it on 2 discs. One installs most of the date, second one is the play disc. So you only ever have to load one, due to stuff being installed on the HD.

[SmoothPancakes]

I'll have to check my PS4. It probably still needs to be downloaded and installed since I haven't been online at all since probably mid to late September. Just no time or desire to really spend time online. Between work and having started working out at a new gym in town since September 12th, I'm usually worn out most evenings and spend most of the time laying on the couch and reading or screwing around with a couple games on my phone.

I'm definitely planning a very late Thursday night/Friday morning next week when this baby releases.

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[bdoughty]

Game is getting amazing reviews but there is one review, which does not contain a score, that is one of the best reviews of a video game I have read. Seriously, and I hate Kotaku for it's overbearing social warrioring for almost everything under the sun (The crunch and a few other whinny bits are in the review but I was expecting that based on the author). There is also a really good video on the atmosphere somewhere in the middle of the article. The end credits take 34 minutes to watch, that alone is pretty mind-blowing at all the people involved in this game.

https://kotaku.com/red-dead-redemption-2-the-kotaku-review-1829984369

IGN has a descent video review. You finally get to see the horse testicles shrinking in action. At 4:38 in, because it's just so ridiculous at how much detail is on this game.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoFvVAMcwOE


Just over 12 hours away from jumping in!

[Rudy]

97 on Metacritic so far. Wow!

[CLW]

Yeah picking this one up tomorrow morning at Best Buy and TR3 is going to just have to wait

[bdoughty]

97 on Metacritic so far. Wow!

97 on PS4 and 98 on Xbox ;) Among both there are only 3 reviews under 90.

The lowest was 70 and they are the same people that gave Far Cry 5 a 5 out of 10 and spent the last few paragraphs moaning about how a Western based game does not delve far enough into into the politics of slavery, women's rights, etc.


The myth of society, the inherent cruelty of people, the hypocrisy of treating predatory capitalists as a more civilized class—every warmed-over western theme is presented here without an ounce of subtlety and conveyed in the broadest possible strokes. Questioning the myth of the western is, at this point, almost as old as the base mythologizing that the genre did for so long, which leaves nothing unique to the game’s genre introspection. Red Dead Redemption 2 is the most ambitious game Rockstar has put out, in how it wants to be about something as much as the scope of its open world, but its aspirations don’t go much further than transplanting the themes of better westerns into an incredibly long video game, where you don’t ruminate on those themes so much as bump into them every once in a while on a mission.

This whole Western 101 approach unsurprisingly comes with a ham-fisted grasp of politics. A woman eventually puts on a pair of pants, one character explains white privilege and why the people in the “southern” end of the map look at him funny, another says that Native Americans were—in what is at least acknowledged as being grossly reductive—“treated poorly,” and everyone generally contemplates the horrors of racism and the aftermath of slavery. And for hours upon hours, none of this injustice is explored in any real detail.

These detours into attempted social consciousness suffer from a similarly ridiculous into-the-camera bluntness before they’re pushed to the fringes of the larger story. It often feels as if Red Dead Redemption 2 is merely parroting what’s expected to be said when portraying such things, to show that the game at least recognizes what it’s portraying, so that it may sufficiently get away with rendering a town where the black folks live on the outskirts or having one character accuse another of fucking slaves. Prejudice is given no more focus than as period-appropriate flavor, a patronizing tourism meant most of all to inform the myth of the white outlaw in a hypocritical society; at one point, Arthur makes a laughable statement to some Native American characters that goes something like, “The government don’t like me any more than they like you, and like you, my time here is nearly finished.” After all, if the white outlaw can no longer be free, then who truly is?

[bdoughty]

Digital Foundry Tech Analysis


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dnzuh6I8gnM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mTIPXwcDGQ


Key notes:

* XBX runs in native 4K
* PS4 Pro 1920 x 2160
* XBX best performance with a few drops in towns
* PS4 Pro next best thing with solid framerate in wilderness but again dropping some frames in towns.
* PS4/XB One have better overall performance than RDR1 had in 360/ps3 hardware. There are drops even to the low-mid 20s at some points though.
* Visual parity in terms of rendering for all versions. (same assets/foliage etc)
* PS4 1080p
* XB One 864p
* No evidence of dynamic resolution in any of the versions tested.
* DF consider the game a stunning achievement regardless and believe the XBX X version is the best and by a considerable margin.


Native 4K and the best performance. Behold the power of the X. Though it still looks amazing on all the other consoles. Was not really shocked the Xbox One could not even hit 1080p.

[cdj]

97 on PS4 and 98 on Xbox ;) Among both there are only 3 reviews under 90.

The lowest was 70 and they are the same people that gave Far Cry 5 a 5 out of 10 and spent the last few paragraphs moaning about how a Western based game does not delve far enough into into the politics of slavery, women's rights, etc.

I feel like the excerpt of the review you posted used a lot of long, smart-sounding buzzwords, but didn't actually say anything of relevance. :D

What stands out to me in reviews have been the 50 hour main story (about what I expected) and some people thinking the game starts slow. Even with that, I'm still looking forward to getting the game down the line.

Has anyone heard an estimate on how long it would take to do all current side missions as well. I'm assuming that might triple the time.

[bdoughty]

I feel like the excerpt of the review you posted used a lot of long, smart-sounding buzzwords, but didn't actually say anything of relevance. :D

What stands out to me in reviews have been the 50 hour main story (about what I expected) and some people thinking the game starts slow. Even with that, I'm still looking forward to getting the game down the line.

Has anyone heard an estimate on how long it would take to do all current side missions as well. I'm assuming that might triple the time.

As an example with fishing. There are 200 different types of fish to catch. Some more easily found than others. That alone could take 20+ hours if someone really enjoyed fishing. If you like the hunting, collecting, etc. Easily a hundred hours+ in the singleplayer alone. Remember that most reviewers were rushing through the game to get a review out. Even rushing it took 50 hours and they barely touched the side stuff. Every NPC can be talked to and there are stories/side quests you might not see if you never talk to them.


Also there are comparison shots by Digital Foundry. Scroll down to the Launch Coomparison Tool. You can move the images around in the comparison or see the whole image by selecting the consoles. PS4 Pro owners are going to be a bit dissapointed. There are a couple where the PS4 looks as good, if not better than the Pro.

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2018-red-dead-redemption-2-face-off


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[bdoughty]

Played for around four hours and we made it out of the snow and to the first real base camp. It is a bit slow paced during this period but does so to get you into the story and the mechanics of the game. Game runs smooth as butter and is just stunning. My only complaint is the controls are typical Rockstar controls. Player movement can be awkward and picking up items is a bit more clumsy than it needs to be. Also it is hard to see which button you need to press (on screen prompts) since everything is in white and they should have used color face buttons in it's place or at least an option. It also hurts during dialog early on as you have to trigger onto a person and select the proper button to talk, subdue, incite, etc. Over time it should be fine but could have been handled much better. Shooting is real good so far but I have not had an issue with that since the early GTA games when it was awful. Horse riding is great, one of things I loved about RDR. Once you get out of the snow you do get hit with the need to start looking after yourself and your horse. I enjoy the micromanaging ad look forward to it. Went from a Cold to Warm area, so I need to get some lighter clothes as it impacts your health with being too hot or cold.

[CLW]

Yeah I just made it out to the 1st base camp and I agree its really pretty but the controls are quite clunky (especially trying to pick up items when there are multiple items near) shooting also is frustrating. I've also got to get used to all the "sim" aspects of the game.

[Rudy]

Just picked up my Pro. Installing now but I will probably lend it to my brother sooner than later. Our Amazon orders all got delayed so who knows when we are getting them. Only pre-ordered in the summer of 2017!

Really want to see HZD, 2K19 and Spidey on the Pro! My wife's birthday tonight too. Have plans but tomorrow the Pro is all mine!

[bdoughty]

Our Amazon orders all got delayed so who knows when we are getting them. Only pre-ordered in the summer of 2017!


Were they at a discounted price? I only ask because I saw that Amazon.ca is being looked into for trying to force customers who got really great deals to cancel their orders.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PS4/comments/9oelv7/e3_discounted_rdr2_delay_via_amazonca_now_being/

[Rudy]

Were they at a discounted price? I only ask because I saw that Amazon.ca is being looked into for trying to force customers who got really great deals to cancel their orders.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PS4/comments/9oelv7/e3_discounted_rdr2_delay_via_amazonca_now_being/

Absolutely. We ordered it for $50 instead of the normal $80 over here. Amazon normally had crazy good sales during e3 except this year nothing. You can’t even pre order most new games anymore. They kind of suck for games now.

[Rudy]

Just starting and using a few suggestions on controls here. I do like how the game pauses in black and white. A nice touch.

https://www.gamesradar.com/best-red-dead-redemption-2-settings/

Edit: I think the snow and tracks look good. Maybe my TV isn’t good enough but I’m not a big fan of HDR. I think the game looks better with it off. I’m not a videophile so I like colours that pop.

[jaymo76]

As much as I want to, I'm not purchasing. This is on my xmas list for sure. Hopefully some of the bugs and controls will be addressed once I get my hands on it.

Have fun for those who have it.

[Rudy]

I’ve read people complaining about the movement and controls. I really don’t have an issue with it outside of me not remembering what each button does at times. That said I’m early in the game and I haven’t had to rush to take a health tonic or anything.

[SmoothPancakes]

Can't wait to dive into this game! Despite having pre-ordered it clear back in June, and despite having had it pre-downloaded since back on Tuesday, I still have yet to even get to play. Work and other stuff have combined for a perfect storm of fucking up my schedule since Thursday night to not give me any free time to dive into this game. Hopefully tomorrow I can actually play.

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[bdoughty]

Edit: I think the snow and tracks look good. Maybe my TV isn’t good enough but I’m not a big fan of HDR. I think the game looks better with it off. I’m not a videophile so I like colours that pop.

According to Digital Foundry the HDR is really poorly implemented in this game in both consoles.

[Rudy]

If I don't want to run around and find things to donate to settlements (I haven't done any of that yet, still like on mission 4 or 5 I think - about to rob a train), how much does that stuff matter? How far along are some of you guys?

[bdoughty]

I have put a couple things in but hardly anything of value. Due to all the football I have only put a few hours in since launch and that was mostly hunting and roaming around the map. No clue how much it matters but I would imagine it could affect how the gang feels about you.

[CLW]

According to Digital Foundry the HDR is really poorly implemented in this game in both consoles.

Yeah a guy I watch for TV reviews says the HDR is basically fake and not real HDR at all


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJgXQ3qNg74&t=1s

[Rudy]

I wish the game let you save mid-mission. You have to complete it - it locks out manual saves. Sometimes I want to just squeeze in 15 minutes.

As far as HDR goes, my LG unit is not good with it. Upon further reviews it is a cheap set (I can live with this) but the gaming mode kills HDR. Great for input lag and necessary but HDR with the gaming mode washes out things. Looks ugly. 65" LG UJ6300 model. With HDR off - very nice. I would still say the Pro is a minor upgrade but a nice one still.

[SmoothPancakes]

I've been waiting all year for this game, and I still have yet to even start the damn thing! :fp:

Maybe tomorrow I'll finally have the time to dive in for a couple hours.

[bdoughty]

You know what this game needs more of? More drinking with Lenny. A rare gem of a sidequest. Also there appears to be a serial killer on the loose. Love when games toss these in. I am taking my sweet time with this game but story barriers are preventing me from profiting on some of my finds. Came across some really good treasure just hunting around all the little areas around Valentine. Unfortunately there is no fence to sell to there and I have a bunch of Jewelry, Gold bars and other things that can't be sold.

Though I did finally run the quest that explains why you need to donate to gang cash box. Yes, it does serve a very good purpose and is not a waste of money. Really do no need to jump in the story more but just travelling around Valentine has been a blast.

Still not thrilled with some of the controls and playing around with them. I love first person games but this did not work for me and third person just feels better. When I have to go to the internet to decode what heck (up arrow/down arrow and LB) to flipping drop a weapon to pick up a new one, someone done goofed. How on earth does that equate to TAP LB? Just say tap LB. Tappity Tap Tap Tap LB.

[Rudy]

I had to pause in the middle of a fist fight since I had no clue what buttons did what lol. It's almost as if the game designers went out of the way to make certain controls different than most games.

[Rudy]

I do a mission where I use a temporary horse and it’s the dumbest horse ever. First it trips over a log or gets spooked by a dog.

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Then when I go back to get my real horse the stupid thing almost drowns me! And the game won’t let me shoot my horse! I can’t pull the trigger!

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[Rudy]

I was walking around Valentine and some O’Driscolls were chatting in front of a store. Two now are full of lead but I am wanted lol.

[Rudy]

Snitches around for everything. Unarmed assault my ass.

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[Rudy]

Should have washed my horse.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dq7NhECXQAES6wy?format=jpg&name=large

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[CLW]

Characters are well done and the world is amazing but man are the controls CLUNKY AS HELL. Trying to pick up items is such a pain in the ass and shooting it bad as well.

[Rudy]

Anybody get the guide? See a lot of people over whelmed with some things.

[CLW]

Anybody get the guide? See a lot of people over whelmed with some things.

Yeah I'm struggling a bit with the depth but haven't bought the guide. Apparently I need to eat more because I'm underweight.

[Rudy]

I don’t even know how to check my weight. I wish you could turn off some of those RPG elements. I’m not going to worry about that stuff right now. Having to eat, sleep, shit and wash myself in a video game doesn’t appeal to me.

[SmoothPancakes]

Sigh, it's been a week and I still have yet to find time to play this damn game. :fp:

At this point I'm wondering if I'll ever get to actually play it before the end of the year.

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[Rudy]

I just learned up in the d-pad whistles for my horse. I don’t even know the basics lol.

I opened the stupid ledger and can’t close it! Circle is supposed to work but I have to restart. Dumb.

[bdoughty]

I don’t even know how to check my weight. I wish you could turn off some of those RPG elements. I’m not going to worry about that stuff right now. Having to eat, sleep, shit and wash myself in a video game doesn’t appeal to me.

Pause. Choose player from the menu and you will see all your stats and your horse. Honestly if you just eat some meat and biscuits each time you play it's not an issue. Clean your guns once a week and keep your horse brushed or run him through a river. It's not that bad and could be far more demanding.

As for a guide IGN has pretty much anything you need on their wiki.

https://www.ign.com/wikis/red-dead-redemption-2

Finally found a fence and like a dumbass accidentally sold him some of those collectable cards you find. I hope he still has them because selling them counts against your collection. Made it to chapter 3 and 25% completion of the story. Having an absolute blast but really wish people would stop killing my horses. They kill the horse and you die too, horse is gone forever. Miss my Thoroughbred Jess, as she was fast as lightning. Had the tonics to revive her but got killed trying to save her.

A little tip I found for dealing with high bounties that you do not want to pay off because you are low on funds.

Take whatever money you have and donate to camp. Go to the Sheriffs Office where the bounty is. L Trigger the Sheriff and select Antagonize. Make sure you do not have a gun in hand. Then when he pulls a gun on you L Trigger him and choose Surrender. You go to jail, lose the bounty and they collect squat.

[bdoughty]

Forgot something but can't edit my post for some reason.

Be sure and manual save before you enter the Sheriff's Office. Sometimes it goes wacky and you get shot.

[Rudy]

I may try that bounty scam. I had no bounty when I started this morning and then I entered the doctors office and yada, yada, yada... I now have a $132 bounty on my head.

[bdoughty]

Just finished this section of the game and I just had to post this for Smooth.

Only 10 seconds and not really a spoiler.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lr4GdP65sZI

[bdoughty]

It is a running joke that John can't swim. Arthur on the other hand can but buyer beware, he can't swim very far. There were some islands near your camp in chapter 3 and I decided to swim to them. Well worth the trip as I found a bunch of new animals, plants and some treasure but you need to find the shortest route between to make your way around the islands. I learned the hard way as I took a long way back to the mainland. Arthur can't use items even while wading in the water. Apparently horses can swim better but did not try that. Also bought the boat for the camp but was too far to use it when I decided to go on this little adventure. Guess John got the last laugh.

Only 39% of the story as I find myself just hunting and fishing.

[Rudy]

I haven’t bothered much with hunting and fishing. I don’t even think I can fish yet. Doing the last mission I have for chapter 2. Died a bunch trying to steal an oil tanker.

[SmoothPancakes]

Just finished this section of the game and I just had to post this for Smooth.

Only 10 seconds and not really a spoiler.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lr4GdP65sZIThat's harsh, lol.

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[bdoughty]

I always appreciated the detail of the large cities in The Witcher 3 but hitting St Denis for the first time in RDR2 is on a completely different level.

Edit: Speaking of details this one just happened to me. While hunting someone was taking a piss and as I walked by he stopped and zipped up and when I was far enough away he started pissing again. So many of these little details in the game.

Found a video of it happening in camp (not my video)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q8dwLvoZPA

[Rudy]

Some cinematic shots are still really nice.

https://twitter.com/rudyjuly2/status/1061591469704839168?s=21

[Rudy]

I’ve enjoyed my time with the game. I don’t change clothes, have bought virtually nothing other than camp upgrades, have crafted nothing, don’t do chores around camp and try to avoid doing any thing I consider tedious. I largely stick to missions and have had fun. The open world is good. Things are really alive more than other open world/sandbox games I have played.

That said, this game isn’t GOTY material imo. I’d still give it a solid 8.5. I like it more than Spiderman but not as much as GOW or Detroit. I prefer games with a stronger story. I do prefer linear games over open world. I’m in chapter 3 and even though I have played roughly 25+ hours (I wish it would track it for us) there is no story whatsoever. We leave Blackwater and Dutch did something questionable. That’s all I know. Ever since then I have done nothing but collect money, rob people or other basic missions. These ARE fun but are starting to feel pointless. When I hear people talking about doing side missions vs main missions there are no differences so far. I honestly don’t know what the point of this game is other than shooting and robbing people. Again, that’s fun but I’m finding the urge to play other games pull at me now. There is nothing special about the combat or anything. This is just a very detailed and real open world game that people who love to just screw around can enjoy but I wish there was more of a point.

[CLW]

Finished the campaign. It drug on a bit and the shooting mechanics and picking up items is annoyingly clunky and the story is so so. The world is amazing though.

Really enjoyed it just wish the cut out allot. Haven't messed with online at all I've heard it's a pay to win scheme with a ridiculously bad economy forcing you to grind hours or of course pay for upgrades

[SmoothPancakes]

I finally got the chance to sit down and start this game yesterday evening. I only got maybe an hour or two into it (just ventured out and saved John Marston), so I'm still in essentially the tutorial phase.

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[Rudy]

I have played this game only once now in December. After getting to chapter 4 I’m just bored now. There isn’t enough combat and the story/missions aren’t keeping me hooked. It’s just one basic thing to another. Not sure when or if I will finish the game.

[bdoughty]

The next chapter has more combat.

[Rudy]

I’m going to stick with Spidey and 2K over my Christmas vacation. When I start finishing or get bored with other games I may go back. I will be getting Anthem in February and possibly Ace Combat in January. But Ace can probably wait for a price cut.

[SmoothPancakes]

I finally got a chance to dive into this some during the extended New Year's weekend. I'm in early chapter 2, only two or three missions into the chapter, along with completing both bounties you can get in Valentine.

I spent most of my time getting in shootouts with O'Driscolls and attempted a train robbery that went horribly wrong and has given me a substantial bounty. Maybe this weekend I'll have a chance to advance the story some more.

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[jaymo76]

I'm in chapter 6 and closing in on the ending. I'll write a thorough overview of my impressions in the next few days.

Bdoughty and I played a but of online... waste of time! I don't expect to play that mode again...

[bdoughty]

Finally collected all 144 cards and mailed them off. Only cost me a couple thousand in buying premium packs of cigs. I estimate a break even due to the rewards given and selling around 500 redundant cards back to the fence. It was a very rare achievement with only 2% of the people unlocking this so far. A sad little group we are. :D:fp:

After having to start over I am back to where I was in chapter 4.

[SmoothPancakes]

I'm still in chapter 2, but I've done some exploring. I've discovered Saint Denis and the Trapper. In fact, I've "unfogged" pretty much the entirety of Lemoyne. I've gotten most of northern West Elizabeth other than Blackwater, which I found out marshals basically spawn and start trying to kill you within seconds of crossing the river into the dead or alive zone around Blackwater. I've still got a lot more to go though.

Have met some interesting strangers during my adventures though. I ran into the brother and sister at the pig farm. I was expecting that to go a lot worse, and a lot more violating, than just being knocked out, robbed of all my money and dumped in a grave down the road.

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[SmoothPancakes]

My exploration is complete! I'm still only in chapter 2. In fact, I've only completed four missions in chapter 2. But I have fully explored and unfogged Amabarino, New Hanover, Lemoyne and all of West Elizabeth north of the Upper Montana River. All that's left to discover is the rest of West Elizabeth around Blackwater and whatever else was carried over from the first game south and west of Blackwater. So now tonight after work, I can dive into the three current waiting missions that have been sitting there for the better part of a week.

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[bdoughty]

and whatever else was carried over from the first game south and west of Blackwater.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRvCvsRp5ho

[SmoothPancakes]

:D I found out the hard way that you're wanted dead or alive around Blackwater. While I was exploring down around the Upper Montana River, I crossed over into southern West Elizabeth into the plains outside Blackwater. It took all of about 10 seconds to have an entire posse of lawmen trying to murder my ass.

[SmoothPancakes]

Holy shit. I'm sitting there in the middle of a field around a campfire, all of a sudden this storm blows up out of nowhere. The wind is howling, rain coming down, and next thing I know, I'm almost getting butt fucked by a lightning bolt!

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[bdoughty]

For Jaymo since he has finished the story or anyone else that has.

You were right about chapter 5, 6 and the Epilogues taking forever. Just left the ranch from Epilogue one and still have a ways to go. There was some serious fluff in there. The pacing, especially the Indian story sections were so slow. Also they just would not shut up with the same bickering between Arthur and Dutch. I knew how the story was to end going in. The funny thing is that once I did contract tuberculosis, I stopped wanting to do any of the side stuff. It was kind of genius on Rockstars end. They made it near impossible to gain weight, so hunting for food felt like a waste. Find new animals? Nah, going to die soon. Upgrade stuff by hunting? No, but to be fair you are really overpowered by end game as it is. Always coughing and pale as a ghost. I got my achievement for creating a completely evil Arthur, only to end up right in the middle because I sided with the story into doing going things with my money. Had, plenty and can't take it with me.

Now if we were back in the days when RS made DLC for single-player stuff. I would love to have another Undead Nightmare where you play as Sadie Adler (my favorite character in the game). Charles would be number two. Javier was my second favorite until he sided with Dutch. For me that was the biggest betrayal.

[bdoughty]

Finished the Epilogues

Forgot that Javier was the guy you hunt down in Mexico in RDR. So yeah, now the betrayal does not feel so bad since I got my revenge on him ten years ago. While it was pretty slow paced I did enjoy watching Beecher's Hope being built. Now I am going to fully explore New Austin again, figure out where the Serial Killer is (got all three maps) and avoid doing the farmwork.

[jaymo76]

Finished the Epilogues

Forgot that Javier was the guy you hunt down in Mexico in RDR. So yeah, now the betrayal does not feel so bad since I got my revenge on him ten years ago. While it was pretty slow paced I did enjoy watching Beecher's Hope being built. Now I am going to fully explore New Austin again, figure out where the Serial Killer is (got all three maps) and avoid doing the farmwork.

What ending did you go with for Arthur? I chose to help John. It gave me the death on the mountain sunset scene.

[bdoughty]

What ending did you go with for Arthur? I chose to help John. It gave me the death on the mountain sunset scene.


Chose to help John but due to my character still being on the evil side and having gone full evil earlier in the story, Micha blasted me in the face on that same mountain.

[bdoughty]

Finally solved the Serial Killer and had the run in with the couple on the pig farm. Good times!

[SmoothPancakes]

I think I'm getting close to the end of chapter 2. I've done quite a few missions and just talked with John to set up the mission to steal an oil wagon to set up eventually robbing a train.

[jaymo76]

Overall I give this game an 8.5/10

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outstanding visuals
wonderful dialogue
an enjoyable story
likable protagonist

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game somewhat lags in the middle of the story
a little sad and anti-climactic once you realise what's going to happen
prefer the old dead eye system
online mode

The game itself connects really well to Red Dead 1. The epilogue while long and somewhat tedious answers a lot of questions and ties up loose ends. I easily got my monies worth. It's a great game for sure but I'm not in the camp for game of the year. At times it was a little dull and the missions became pretty repetitive after awhile. Regardless, the polish of this game puts Fallout76 to shame. Rockstar shows why they are in another class when it comes to publishers. While I won't say game of the year it's definitely going to be in the top three. Of that I have no doubt.

[bdoughty]

Pretty much the same, though I might go as high as 9/10. Like you said, going between Fallout 76 and RDR2 is mind-blowing. The optimization of RDR2 is ridiculously as it rarely ever stutters and looks so amazing. A technical marvel compared to the technical hell of Fallout 75 and even Fallout 4.

I hope there is some single-player DLC to come. Still plan on playing it for the hunting/fishing and exploring the nooks and crannies.