Kirk Herbstreit Wants NCAA Football Series to Return

[cdj]

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One of the in-game commentators in the NCAA Football franchise has now become one of the first - if not the loudest - voices in trying to get the franchise to return.

Analyst Kirk Herbsteit is not only hoping the series returns, he puts the blame squarely at the feet of Ed O'Bannon, whose class-action lawsuit helped lead to the (temporary?) end of EA SPORTS' NCAA Football franchise. In an interview with SECcountry.com (https://www.seccountry.com/sec-news/kirk-herbstreit-badly-wants-ncaa-football-video-game-back-says-ed-obannon-ruined-that-for-all-of-us), Herbstreit issued the following comments: “I was probably as devastated or more devastated than anybody in the country. I’ll do anything I can do to help be a part, to lead a cause, bring that game back.” ... "I can’t believe Ed O’Bannon took that game away from us.”

If Herbstreit is serious about helping to see NCAA Football return - which we believe he is - he should use his connections and weekly in-season meetings with Athletic Directors and athletic departments to push for schools/conferences to actually use their highly clamored for autonomy and establish player likeness rights for student-athletes. Since acquiring the rights to make some of their own rules, the Power Five conferences (ACC, Big 12, Big Ten, Pac-12, and SEC) and the NCAA have continued to punt on finally addressing this long-term issue. Until that issue (and likely all litigation) is settled, there is no little to no hope for the franchise returning.

Continue on to read an excerpt of SECcountry.com's interview with Herbstreit.



Kirk Herbstreit’s friendly tone was gone. It was mid-November, and the upbeat ESPN analyst just finished discussing Nick Saban, Lane Kiffin and Alabama’s College Football Playoff hopes.

Then he go [sic] quiet; angry silence brought about by a simple question: Are they bringing the NCAA Football video game back?

There’s a rustle on the other end of the line.

Then, Herbstreit spoke.

“They better,” he said. “I can’t believe Ed O’Bannon took that game away from us.”

There’s plenty to unpack here. “They” is a conglomerate of the NCAA, EA Sports and a coalition of former players headed by O’Bannon, an ex-UCLA and NBA forward who filed an antitrust class action lawsuit against the NCAA demanding payment for commercial use of amateur athletes’ images.

One of the lawsuit’s consequences was the demise of NCAA Football, EA Sports’ beloved video-game franchise that used tens of thousands of players’ likenesses in its run from 1993-2013.

Herbstreit, a senior Ohio State quarterback when the inaugural version of NCAA Football dropped, would play marathon sessions with wide receiver Joey Galloway.

“I can’t even tell you how many hours we put in on that game,” Herbstreit says.

Within a decade, Herbstreit was featured on the game as an analyst, teaming up with play-by-play man Brad Nessler and peppy former coach Lee Corso to become an unforgettable video game trio.

When EA Sports discontinued publishing the game two years ago, Herbstreit was floored.

“I was probably as devastated or more devastated than anybody in the country,” he says. “I’ll do anything I can do to help be a part, to lead a cause, bring that game back.”

Herbstreit contends that — pay or no pay — athletes want the franchise to return.

“Every single college football player,” he said. “You know what they’d love for their compensation to be? Just give ‘em a free game. That’s the compensation that they would take.

“I’ve never met one player in college football that’s like: ‘They can’t use my name and likeness! I need to be paid!’ They’re just thrilled to be on the game. They love being on the game. It’s like the biggest highlight of their life, is to be on the game.”

Courtesy: SECcountry.com (https://www.seccountry.com/sec-news/kirk-herbstreit-badly-wants-ncaa-football-video-game-back-says-ed-obannon-ruined-that-for-all-of-us)

[souljahbill]

Kirk is my hero

[JBHuskers]

Glad he called out that douchebag O'Bannon.

[steelerfan]

I applaud him for throwing O'Bannon under the bus where he belongs but let's not kid ourselves.

Herbstreit is/was distraught about the death of the series because he misses the big paycheck he got every year to fly in and record 3 or 4 new lines while the old lines were recycled.

I doubt he cares about the game being gone for the same reasons we do.

Either way, I hope he misses the easy money enough to get something done and get us our game back.

[souljahbill]

While I'm sure he likes the check (who wouldn't?), I think he was a genuine fan of the game and he seems to understand that the game's fan base was as passionate about the game as the actual sport itself.

[cdj]

While I'm sure he likes the check (who wouldn't?), I think he was a genuine fan of the game and he seems to understand that the game's fan base was as passionate about the game as the actual sport itself.

I agree with that assessment. In some follow-up tweets he has basically said that it shouldn't be this hard or difficult to figure out a way for the game to return. Again, I think he is correct.

People can argue or debate forever on who is to blame (NCAA, EA, conference, schools, disgruntled former/current players, lawyers, etc.) but what are any of those parties doing now to resolve the issue (paying for player likeness)? Maybe there is action behind-the-scenes for some of them, but it sure appears that most (none?) are truly interested in the matter. This is why the lawsuit and the 'cause' rings more and more hollow as time goes on. They weren't looking to solve this great issue of 'player likeness exploitation,' they were looking for money. All that's happened is that a lot of good people lost jobs and players still have no avenue for likeness usage in a video game, which I feel Herbie is right in saying many (but not all) players supported.

If it takes guys like Herbie & Snoop Dogg to get some sort of pressure or conversation started on this, I say good for them. The next step is likely a combination of pressure on ADs/conferences, perhaps by the players themselves. If they have the collective voice they think or hope they do, this would be an easy/good way to prove it. However, it feels as if the conferences and players are happy with the status quo. It seems as if the Power Five only pursued autonomy for some leverage against the NCAA should they feel they aren't getting a big enough piece of the pie; it wasn't to better the experience for the student-athlete.

[steelerfan]

While I'm sure he likes the check (who wouldn't?), I think he was a genuine fan of the game.

This I agree with or is at least believable.

[jaymo76]

I want the game back and I am proud to see Herby blast people for its demise. That being said, I believe this game is dead and will not be returning to console. Chances are that video game consoles in their present form have 1-2 generations left and I just don't see this issue being settled 10 years from now. :(

[baseballplyrmvp]

I think if Herbie starts to actively push for the return of the game, more talks will happen behind the scenes.

[ram29jackson]

I think if Herbie starts to actively push for the return of the game, more talks will happen behind the scenes.

you have it backwards. The facebook gossip and quotes from him already mean something is going on and they are teasing

[souljahbill]

Is everything a conspiracy with you? Are we living in the Matrix? Are you Neo? The one who's here to free our minds?

[baseballplyrmvp]

you have it backwards. The facebook gossip and quotes from him already mean something is going on and they are teasing

Fucking shut the fuck up. Seriously! Not everything is rigged and scripted. Get a fucking clue about life!

[SmoothPancakes]

Fucking shut the fuck up. Seriously! Not everything is rigged and scripted. Get a fucking clue about life!

:clap: :clap: :clap:

[ram29jackson]

Is everything a conspiracy with you? Are we living in the Matrix? Are you Neo? The one who's here to free our minds?

another millions/billion dollar company doesnt make mistakes like that. It has nothing to with a conspiracy. They wouldnt do that on facebook and then have Kirk comment unless the ball was already rolling.

[ram29jackson]

Fucking shut the fuck up. Seriously! Not everything is rigged and scripted. Get a fucking clue about life!


:clap: :clap: :clap:

I forgive both of you your disrespectful,immature,ignorance.


Is everything a conspiracy with you? Are we living in the Matrix? Are you Neo? The one who's here to free our minds?



nothing is a conspiracy. You just dont know how to comprehend reality yet.

[bdoughty]

Poll idea for the future.

Who is the bigger douchebag?

Ed O'Bannion
Ram

[SmoothPancakes]

another millions/billion dollar company doesnt make mistakes like that. It has nothing to with a conspiracy. They wouldnt do that on facebook and then have Kirk comment unless the ball was already rolling.


I forgive both of you your disrespectful,immature,ignorance.



nothing is a conspiracy. You just dont know how to comprehend reality yet.

I say this with all sincerity. FUCK OFF!

Keep your stupid dumbass bullshit in your stupid dumbass thread.

[steelerfan]

Poll idea for the future.

Who is the bigger douchebag?

Ed O'Bannion
Ram
:D:D:D

[steelerfan]

nothing is a conspiracy. You just dont know how to comprehend reality yet.

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[bdoughty]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOsvng4QwG8

[steelerfan]

video of crazy mama's boy like ram

Almost every time I watch an old episode of Penn & Teller Bullshit, I think of ram.

I watched one the other day about alien abductions and they showed some REAL moron who was looking for aliens in the crowd at a UFO convention. He was clearly the most disturbed person in a room full of dozens of idiots and he just made me think "that must be what ram is like, a complete fucking moron who is totally out of touch with reality".

You've probably seen it but watch it again. It's in Season 1 (free* on Prime).

*with paid subscription

[bdoughty]

Loved the Penn & Teller Bullshit show, especially the smack-down they did on Peta, something every "Peta member" should be forced to watch.

Still thinking Giorgio Tsoukalos, minus the suit and with a couple young Asian boys screaming from a closet. The first sixteen seconds, it's like Ram saw this video years ago and replaced "Extra Terrestrials" with "NFL Script."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDKvWiToj8Y

[steelerfan]

Loved the Penn & Teller Bullshit show, especially the smack-down they did on Peta, something every "Peta member" should be forced to watch.

Still thinking Giorgio Tsoukalos, minus the suit and with a couple young Asian boys screaming from a closet. The first sixteen seconds, it's like Ram saw this video years ago and replaced "Extra Terrestrials" with "NFL Script."

:D

Yep. I always loved Bullshit. I think I've seen just about all of them (the Peta one is great, btw) but I recently started going through them one by one and I'm going to watch the whole series as I'm certain there are a few I haven't seen.

[souljahbill]

another millions/billion dollar company doesnt make mistakes like that. It has nothing to with a conspiracy. They wouldnt do that on facebook and then have Kirk comment unless the ball was already rolling.

I wasn't aware that a billion-dollar company, operated by humans, was infallible. They make so much money that they become perfect and are incapable of making mistakes.

[steelerfan]

I wasn't aware that a billion-dollar company, operated by humans, was infallible. They make so much money that they become perfect and are incapable of making mistakes.
They don't make mistakes. Not ever. Never.

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[JBHuskers]

Almost every time I watch an old episode of Penn & Teller Bullshit, I think of ram.

I watched one the other day about alien abductions and they showed some REAL moron who was looking for aliens in the crowd at a UFO convention. He was clearly the most disturbed person in a room full of dozens of idiots and he just made me think "that must be what ram is like, a complete fucking moron who is totally out of touch with reality".

You've probably seen it but watch it again. It's in Season 1 (free* on Prime).

*with paid subscription
Love that show!

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[bdoughty]

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[gschwendt]

another millions/billion dollar company doesnt make mistakes like that. It has nothing to with a conspiracy. They wouldnt do that on facebook and then have Kirk comment unless the ball was already rolling.
I promise you, with 100% certainty, you have no idea what you're talking about in this instance.

[bdoughty]

I promise you, with 100% certainty, you have no idea what you're talking about in every instance.

Tweaked for 100% accuracy.

[souljahbill]

I promise you, with 100% certainty, you have no idea what you're talking about in this instance.

Ram's response: Either you're lying or EA just isn't ready to tell you yet.

I get something similar to that every time I use my athletic trainer expertise to rebuke his claims.

[JBHuskers]

NFL Tour was pretty fun actually :D

[souljahbill]

I had the 1st 2 NFL Streets games and the 1st 3 NBA Streets games

[SmoothPancakes]

Ram's response: Either you're lying or EA just isn't ready to tell you yet.

I get something similar to that every time I use my athletic trainer expertise to rebuke his claims.

Nah, G's just been bought off by EA. How do you think they guys keep getting games and codes from EA to giveaway?

[baseballplyrmvp]

I promise you, with 100% certainty, you have no idea what you're talking about in this instance.

Do you think my idea of rating position groups could work for a randomized roster?

[gschwendt]

Do you think my idea of rating position groups could work for a randomized roster?
It likely wouldn't sell very well.

Until EA can either pay players (either a stipend or a trust for after they graduate) or are allowed for players to sign an optional waiver to release their rights, I don't foresee this game coming back.

[souljahbill]

It likely wouldn't sell very well.

Until EA can either pay players (either a stipend or a trust for after they graduate) or are allowed for players to sign an optional waiver to release their rights, I don't foresee this game coming back.

Are they absolutely sure that people are buying the game for the names on the back and not the names on the front? Did they survey that?

[steelerfan]

Thinking it over, I'm of the opinion that if they put out a game with generic rosters at this point it would sell VERY well.

In year 1.

People are starved for NCAA and I think the next version that comes out (if that happens) will shatter sales records for the series, no matter what the content is. But I think sales would dry up after year one if there were generic rosters.

[JBHuskers]

Rosters aren't much of a big deal for dynasty players. They main names are mostly gone after a year or two.

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[bdoughty]

Are they absolutely sure that people are buying the game for the names on the back and not the names on the front? Did they survey that?

That has always been the selling point for me. I wanted play as OU the team far more than as the players currently enrolled at OU. Rosters were icing on the cake but I could have lived with making my OU starting roster and having everything else generic. As JB mentions, roster names are pretty useless for dynasty owners after a couple years.

[bdoughty]

NFL Tour was pretty fun actually :D

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[souljahbill]

That has always been the selling point for me. I wanted play as OU the team far more than as the players currently enrolled at OU. Rosters were icing on the cake but I could have lived with making my OU starting roster and having everything else generic. As JB mentions, roster names are pretty useless for dynasty owners after a couple years.

Exactly. I play to play as my school, not the guys at the school. Generic NCAA rosters isn't the same as generic Madden rosters. I can't see people buying the game just to play "as" Leonard Fournette as long as generic LSU RB #2 (his real number is #7) is a beast. You can even name the default roster so he can be LSU RB #2 Joseph Jackson.

[SmoothPancakes]

Are they absolutely sure that people are buying the game for the names on the back and not the names on the front? Did they survey that?


Thinking it over, I'm of the opinion that if they put out a game with generic rosters at this point it would sell VERY well.

In year 1.

People are starved for NCAA and I think the next version that comes out (if that happens) will shatter sales records for the series, no matter what the content is. But I think sales would dry up after year one if there were generic rosters.


Rosters aren't much of a big deal for dynasty players. They main names are mostly gone after a year or two.

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That has always been the selling point for me. I wanted play as OU the team far more than as the players currently enrolled at OU. Rosters were icing on the cake but I could have lived with making my OU starting roster and having everything else generic. As JB mentions, roster names are pretty useless for dynasty owners after a couple years.


Exactly. I play to play as my school, not the guys at the school. Generic NCAA rosters isn't the same as generic Madden rosters. I can't see people buying the game just to play "as" Leonard Fournette as long as generic LSU RB #2 (his real number is #7) is a beast. You can even name the default roster so he can be LSU RB #2 Joseph Jackson.

Absolutely this. I'm sitting at the beginning of season 14 in my coaching carousel dynasty. I stopped giving a damn about properly named rosters 10 seasons ago. I stopped using real named rosters in NCAA '12. NCAA '13 and NCAA '14, I instantly just auto-named my rosters and jumped right into the action on my dynasty. So count me with the group that couldn't give a single damn about real named rosters. Let me auto-name my rosters and I'm 100% good to go. I play for the names of the teams on the front, not the names of the players on the back. The players can suck my dick.

[Jayrah]

Absolutely this. I'm sitting at the beginning of season 14 in my coaching carousel dynasty. I stopped giving a damn about properly named rosters 10 seasons ago. I stopped using real named rosters in NCAA '12. NCAA '13 and NCAA '14, I instantly just auto-named my rosters and jumped right into the action on my dynasty. So count me with the group that couldn't give a single damn about real named rosters. Let me auto-name my rosters and I'm 100% good to go. I play for the names of the teams on the front, not the names of the players on the back. The players can suck my dick.
The problem though is and would continue to be the argument for creating some sense of realism within a given roster while being able to call it "random". The names and imo 'true' player likeness have never been the issue, it's that RB #2 is black and tends to have RB #7 (Fournette) traits and tendencies to give the LSU roster a realistic approach to LSU's offense. Based on consumer demand just here on this site and I'm sure all around the community, EA would still want to create a game as realistic as possible from a strategic and gameplay standpoint and could absolutely not do that without at least mimicking the roster to a large extent, which is the real and original problem. We say we wouldn't care if it were random, but we WOULD care if it were "unrealistic". The two go hand in hand.

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[Jayrah]

Thinking it over, I'm of the opinion that if they put out a game with generic rosters at this point it would sell VERY well.

In year 1.

People are starved for NCAA and I think the next version that comes out (if that happens) will shatter sales records for the series, no matter what the content is. But I think sales would dry up after year one if there were generic rosters.
Unfortunately enough, the reason the general public buys the ncaa game season to season is to play that new season (or online) as "their team" for that year. The ppl that make up probably 85% of the game's sales live in that bubble and don't actually care as much about new back of the box features, realistic running styles, realistic crowds, new equipment, true recruiting or any of that kind of stuff. Most consumers are cheesers who just want the experience of winning with their favorite guys. So yeah, year 1 would obliterate the sales record, then the general consumer would realize since it's random that they may as well just continue with that game for awhile.

There is a case to be made for a 2-year cycle that would sell better, but the numbers game is still tough to justify if you have a dedicated team getting paid to do what it would take to keep the hardcore group happy and still worrying about average Joe making up more of your consumer base and already being satisfied with his already randomized roster and not buying.

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[Jayrah]

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[baseballplyrmvp]

The problem though is and would continue to be the argument for creating some sense of realism within a given roster while being able to call it "random". The names and imo 'true' player likeness have never been the issue, it's that RB #2 is black and tends to have RB #7 (Fournette) traits and tendencies to give the LSU roster a realistic approach to LSU's offense. Based on consumer demand just here on this site and I'm sure all around the community, EA would still want to create a game as realistic as possible from a strategic and gameplay standpoint and could absolutely not do that without at least mimicking the roster to a large extent, which is the real and original problem. We say we wouldn't care if it were random, but we WOULD care if it were "unrealistic". The two go hand in hand.

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This is why I said for them to rate position groups and give position groups traits. You get randomness from each customers roster but get a controlled randomness by having Alabama having all highly rated running backs, USC having highly rated WRs, etc.

[steelerfan]

Unfortunately enough, the reason the general public buys the ncaa game season to season is to play that new season (or online) as "their team" for that year. The ppl that make up probably 85% of the game's sales live in that bubble and don't actually care as much about new back of the box features, realistic running styles, realistic crowds, new equipment, true recruiting or any of that kind of stuff. Most consumers are cheesers who just want the experience of winning with their favorite guys. So yeah, year 1 would obliterate the sales record, then the general consumer would realize since it's random that they may as well just continue with that game for awhile.

There is a case to be made for a 2-year cycle that would sell better, but the numbers game is still tough to justify if you have a dedicated team getting paid to do what it would take to keep the hardcore group happy and still worrying about average Joe making up more of your consumer base and already being satisfied with his already randomized roster and not buying.

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You nailed it and that's exactly why I said year 1 would break sales records but the sales would decline after that.

I think 85% is a bit generous to those who say "I would still play it". The reality is that probably 95%+ do not fall into line with the thinking of people who post on a forum dedicated to a game that has not existed for going on 3 years.

We are not representative of the general public on this matter.

[Jayrah]

This is why I said for them to rate position groups and give position groups traits. You get randomness from each customers roster but get a controlled randomness by having Alabama having all highly rated running backs, USC having highly rated WRs, etc.
Yeah but then you run into a whole new issue for the Dynasty guys because you then have to put each team into even more of a box when it comes to longterm cpu recruiting and play style and the like. Those kinds of things are why ncaa football was struggling to maintain numbers in the dynasty circles to begin with. Granted we're the small majority so that might work to gather necessary sales, but in the long run it wouldn't help our cause as hardcore fans. And even though we're the minority, that's who I believe they would want to cater to. Too many fans of real football making the game to not want more realistic results with each edition. Why make a game if you can't chase a more realistic experience?

You can't really open the box in a football game and expect one set of rules for the game to create "random realism" for each team in season 1, in order to satisfy the contract, then switch gears and get a realistic and truly Dyasty-esque experience with what would have to be a whole new set of rules to satisfy our needs as players.

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[baseballplyrmvp]

Yeah but then you run into a whole new issue for the Dynasty guys because you then have to put each team into even more of a box when it comes to longterm cpu recruiting and play style and the like. Those kinds of things are why ncaa football was struggling to maintain numbers in the dynasty circles to begin with. Granted we're the small majority so that might work to gather necessary sales, but in the long run it wouldn't help our cause as hardcore fans. And even though we're the minority, that's who I believe they would want to cater to. Too many fans of real football making the game to not want more realistic results with each edition. Why make a game if you can't chase a more realistic experience?

You can't really open the box in a football game and expect one set of rules for the game to create "random realism" for each team in season 1, in order to satisfy the contract, then switch gears and get a realistic and truly Dyasty-esque experience with what would have to be a whole new set of rules to satisfy our needs as players.

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I really don't think you understand my idea for the position groups.

For example, Alabamas o-line. They'd be ranked 10/10 for talent and be labeled as physical, smart, run blockers. This tells us that their o-line would have high strength, great awareness and run blocking skills and average pass blocking.

You tie the current roster template to the coaches and coordinators. When the game is first loaded up, it randomly rates each position group according to the ranking. Bama's o-line would be 75-99, with higher rankings given to the upper class men. This position ranking is k ly used the first time the game is loaded (could also be used if you delete all roster files).

its a controlled randomness. It allows everyone's game to be different yet all pretty close to being the same at first startup.

[gschwendt]

I really don't think you understand my idea for the position groups.

For example, Alabamas o-line. They'd be ranked 10/10 for talent and be labeled as physical, smart, run blockers. This tells us that their o-line would have high strength, great awareness and run blocking skills and average pass blocking.

You tie the current roster template to the coaches and coordinators. When the game is first loaded up, it randomly rates each position group according to the ranking. Bama's o-line would be 75-99, with higher rankings given to the upper class men. This position ranking is k ly used the first time the game is loaded (could also be used if you delete all roster files).

its a controlled randomness. It allows everyone's game to be different yet all pretty close to being the same at first startup.
You're correct that it would be controlled randomness, but there would still exist a possibility (albeit slim) of creating a near replica of a player.

For example, what if on Alabama's roster, a 6'3 245lb African-American Runningback from Florida was created?

[souljahbill]

You're correct that it would be controlled randomness, but there would still exist a possibility (albeit slim) of creating a near replica of a player.

For example, what if on Alabama's roster, a 6'3 245lb African-American Runningback from Florida was created?

I say fuck the randomness and have EA create a roster from scratch as the default. That way, they can make the team's realistic while making the players generic.

[baseballplyrmvp]

You're correct that it would be controlled randomness, but there would still exist a possibility (albeit slim) of creating a near replica of a player.

For example, what if on Alabama's roster, a 6'3 245lb African-American Runningback from Florida was created?
I fully expect that to happen on some of the rosters created. But for the huge majority of the rosters it won't happen.

The chances of Deshawn Watson going and buying NCAA 17 and it randomly creates his exact player profile as one of the best qb's in college football on the Clemson roster are slim to none. Someone in this country may have it happen, but the chances of him getting himself are incredibly microscopic.

That is what EA can bank on. The fact that those odds are so low for one player alone on one separate occasion. Not every player in the country getting everyone and their teammates every single time.

[souljahbill]

I just thought of something, at the end of every fictional movie in the credits, there's a disclaimer saying any resemblance to real people or events is strictly coincidence. Surely EA can throw that disclaimer on a pre-menu splash screen.

[Jayrah]

I just thought of something, at the end of every fictional movie in the credits, there's a disclaimer saying any resemblance to real people or events is strictly coincidence. Surely EA can throw that disclaimer on a pre-menu splash screen.
Wasn't that their claim originally though?

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[souljahbill]

Wasn't that their claim originally though?

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Yeah but they used players height, weight, numbers, etc.

If they created their own original fictional roster and used the disclaimer, they're home free.

[OLATHExSOONER]

If only EA could hear our cry for more NCAA Football. Let's just send a few scathing emails to EA and maybe tweet at Kirk Herbstreit a little, he does like talking to his fans on Twitter lol. If only it were that easy...


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[JeffHCross]

Are they absolutely sure that people are buying the game for the names on the back and not the names on the front? Did they survey that?Remember, after the NCAA pulled out their backing, it was going to be called "College Football '15" or something like that. But then several conferences and major schools (Ohio State included, if I recall) started wavering, just because of the liability. I think without full backing of the NCAA and CLC, and protection from liability as much as possible, the schools don't want to take the risk of more litigation. So you'd be most likely to get a generic game with generic rosters and generic schools (anybody remember the old "Columbus" with red and gray as the colors?). Games that have sold well have always either had the backing of the teams or the players union ... neither is a tough sell. And, personally, I would imagine that EA would be hesitant to do anything resembling real players or real schools, so it would have to be so obviously not real that they probably wouldn't even do the "hey this team just happens to have the right colors" move.

[souljahbill]

I wouldn't buy it without the real teams and stadiums but I'd gladly buy it with 100% super generic rosters.

[JBHuskers]

I wouldn't buy it without the real teams and stadiums but I'd gladly buy it with 100% super generic rosters.

:+1:

[baseballplyrmvp]

Remember, after the NCAA pulled out their backing, it was going to be called "College Football '15" or something like that. But then several conferences and major schools (Ohio State included, if I recall) started wavering, just because of the liability. I think without full backing of the NCAA and CLC, and protection from liability as much as possible, the schools don't want to take the risk of more litigation. So you'd be most likely to get a generic game with generic rosters and generic schools (anybody remember the old "Columbus" with red and gray as the colors?). Games that have sold well have always either had the backing of the teams or the players union ... neither is a tough sell. And, personally, I would imagine that EA would be hesitant to do anything resembling real players or real schools, so it would have to be so obviously not real that they probably wouldn't even do the "hey this team just happens to have the right colors" move.

So what's stopping EA or some 3rd party EA partner from going to every school and asking every football player to sign away his image/likeness/whatever you want to call it. Add it to whatever paperwork is already there for student athletes to sign every year. It'd be as easy as one line:

I, ________, agree to give consent to EA Sports for use of my likeness in their annual video game NCAA Football, in exchange for no dollar amount, just a copy of said listed video game.

Hell, EA could come up with a VIP promo where casual fans buy a $5 season pass and you can play against college football players during the season. That could turn into a competition into which school has the best gamers etc. lol.

[Jayrah]

So what's stopping EA or some 3rd party EA partner from going to every school and asking every football player to sign away his image/likeness/whatever you want to call it. Add it to whatever paperwork is already there for student athletes to sign every year. It'd be as easy as one line:

I, ________, agree to give consent to EA Sports for use of my likeness in their annual video game NCAA Football, in exchange for no dollar amount, just a copy of said listed video game.

Hell, EA could come up with a VIP promo where casual fans buy a $5 season pass and you can play against college football players during the season. That could turn into a competition into which school has the best gamers etc. lol.
If they were to pay me I'd be all about being the one to do that. Each and every school.