View Full Version : Rise of the Tomb Raider (XB1, PS4)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kLAyzmWnk4
Loved the reboot so looking forward to this one.
bdoughty
06-09-2014, 03:29 PM
Yes, more Tomb Raider. Loved the action but please remember thy roots and add more tombs and puzzles.
"In the next chapter of her journey, Lara must use her survival skills and wits, learn to trust new friends, and ultimately accept her destiny as the Tomb Raider," Microsoft said. "Featuring epic, high-octane action moments, Rise of the Tomb Raider (http://www.ign.com/games/rise-of-the-tomb-raider/ps4-20019706) will take gamers to multiple locations around the world filled with exploration spaces that are some of the most beautifully hostile places on earth. In addition, after hearing the cry from fans loud and clear, the game will put the tombs back into “Tomb Raider" all in the franchise’s gritty Survival-Action style."
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/06/09/e3-2014-rise-of-the-tomb-raider-revealed
bdoughty
06-09-2014, 07:31 PM
Well glad to see they were listening. It was already a done deal for me so this is icing on the cake.
Really likednthe reboot. It would be nice to have more diverse boards and not as many of the lame journals.
JBHuskers
06-11-2014, 09:47 AM
One of the games I actually finished with my gaming ADD :D loved it, and going to replay it on the PS4 once the price is right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pclnjYYChwQ
souljahbill
08-12-2014, 09:45 AM
Xbox exclusive
http://www.polygon.com/2014/8/12/5994211/the-next-tomb-raider-is-an-xbox-exclusive
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/12/ymu4u2a5.jpg
Xbox exclusive
http://www.polygon.com/2014/8/12/5994211/the-next-tomb-raider-is-an-xbox-exclusive
MS is shelling out SERIOUS $ to try to turn the tide in the console war. I love me some Tomb Raider but nope I'll pass and Crystal will have to explain to its share holders why it refused to sell to the consumers on the console with a 3:1 edge world wide.
gschwendt
08-12-2014, 10:10 AM
It's unclear whether it's a full exclusive or timed exclusive.
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It's unclear whether it's a full exclusive or timed exclusive.
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Well it wouldn't be the 1st time MS (or Sony) pretended the game was exclusive to their console only for the game to only be exclusive for a short time period.
The ONLY way a full exclusive makes any business sense for Crystal is if MS agrees to pay Crystal for an additional 75% profit off of its game. For MS I'm not sure its a great deal either. Tomb Raider was great in the reboot but I don't see that game as a "console seller" but maybe I'm wrong. Time will tell.
bdoughty
08-12-2014, 10:41 AM
Must have been one heck of a deal. I remember when Square Enix was complaining about the sales of the Tomb Raider reboot. (http://www.kotaku.com.au/2013/05/square-enix-disappointed-by-sales-of-tomb-raider-wants-to-maximise-profits-during-development/) :dunno:
The guy who wrote the news piece must be buying some lottery tickets right now.
But how will Square Enix profit from games in development? Is it about finding different ways to profit from the same IP? These are the questions Square Enix seem to be asking themselves. Square Enix seems committed to releasing big budget titles like Tomb Raider, but wants to maximise its profits during the long term development of quality products, which is fair enough — but what does that mean for consumers?
Time will tell I suppose.
Someone pointed out that this could potentially set up UC4 v. TR2 head to head as Sony and MS both release their exclusive 3rd person shooter/adventure game at the same time.
souljahbill
08-12-2014, 11:51 AM
Someone pointed out that this could potentially set up UC4 v. TR2 head to head as Sony and MS both release their exclusive 3rd person shooter/adventure game at the same time.
That would be stupid
I OU a Beatn
08-12-2014, 11:56 AM
Tomb Raider was great in the reboot but I don't see that game as a "console seller" but maybe I'm wrong. Time will tell.
If that game would have got the marketing it deserved, it would have been a massive seller. With Microsoft obviously having struck a deal, this one will get that massive marketing push that could turn it into a huge seller.
Honestly, I couldn't care either way, but the epic meltdowns I'm seeing from people across the internet is pure gold.
Reading more on the net and apparently the "company line" from the conference is "exclusive Holiday 2015" (or something to that effect) so perhaps it is "just" timed exclusive and TR2 will come to PS4 January 1, 2016 or shortly thereafter.
of course MS doesn't want to let the "secret" out its only timed exclusive and square would undoubtedly be PROHIBITED from saying anything other than exclusive to XB after getting their cash.
I OU a Beatn
08-12-2014, 03:55 PM
Reading more on the net and apparently the "company line" from the conference is "exclusive Holiday 2015" (or something to that effect) so perhaps it is "just" timed exclusive and TR2 will come to PS4 January 1, 2016 or shortly thereafter.
of course MS doesn't want to let the "secret" out its only timed exclusive and square would undoubtedly be PROHIBITED from saying anything other than exclusive to XB after getting their cash.
Why would anyone pay anything for a one or two month exclusive window? It wouldn't benefit Square Enix because the amount Microsoft would pay for that short of an exclusive period wouldn't be worth sacrificing the launch sales of the PS4 install base. It wouldn't benefit Microsoft, either, because it's only a 1 or 2 month thing.
Since I'm quite sure "the net" is NeoGAF, just be aware that a very large population of users of there are borderline insane, so it's probably wise not to read too much into their convoluted conspiracy theories.
Either way, what's the big deal? If you want to play Tomb Raider 2, buy an Xbox One and play it at launch, or wait and hope that it eventually comes to PS4/PC. If you don't want to play it, then who cares? The amount of flip outs I've seen on various sites over this one game is just ridiculous.
Why would anyone pay anything for a one or two month exclusive window? It wouldn't benefit Square Enix because the amount Microsoft would pay for that short of an exclusive period wouldn't be worth sacrificing the launch sales of the PS4 install base. It wouldn't benefit Microsoft, either, because it's only a 1 or 2 month thing.
Since I'm quite sure "the net" is NeoGAF, just be aware that a very large population of users of there are borderline insane, so it's probably wise not to read too much into their convoluted conspiracy theories.
Either way, what's the big deal? If you want to play Tomb Raider 2, buy an Xbox One and play it at launch, or wait and hope that it eventually comes to PS4/PC. If you don't want to play it, then who cares? The amount of flip outs I've seen on various sites over this one game is just ridiculous.
The net = other websites, twitter, etc... (some people seem to think this whole "exclusive holiday 2015" or whatever they said means something) like its legalese
Now why would MS do it - B/c they are trailing 2:1 in consoles and after your supposedly lord and savior (EA/Titanfall) didn't produce the goods you are just going to throw cash at anything and hope it solves your problem?
I don't think this deal benefits either SE or MS. #1 it KILLS the TR franchise on the #1 console for the next 8+ years and/or #2 TR just is NOT a console seller. Also even if its a "timed" exclusive. Very few people are going to want to pay full retail on PS4 for a game that has been out in the market for a significant time difference. I bought the reboot on PS3 and bought the Definitive Edition on PS4 from GameFly. I had planned on buying TR2 Day 1 but now its GameFly (if it ever comes to PS4) only.
MS and SE are companies that can contract as they see fit. I don't have a right to TR2 on my PS4. I'm merely commenting on the fact I don't see how this deal makes business sense for EITHER MS or SE.
I OU a Beatn
08-12-2014, 04:25 PM
The net = full of people who have no idea what the deal between Microsoft and SE entails. It could be one month, one year, or permanent exclusivity for all we know. That's what I'm saying - no one commenting on the internet knows for sure what this is going to be. I'm just speaking my opinion of it.
To me, it does benefit both Microsoft and SE if it's a long term deal that covers at least a 1 year exclusive period. SE gets much needed funding from Microsoft (no doubt including a giant paycheck and a massive marketing push) and Microsoft gets another exclusive that can only be played on their system. If it was one year, by the time it released on other platforms, no one would care, but I'm sure that would be made up for with Microsoft's money.
With the power of Microsoft's marketing, they could turn Tomb Raider into an Uncharted-like seller. The last one was just about as good as Uncharted 2, IMO.
I OU a Beatn
08-12-2014, 04:33 PM
Also, the official statement from Crystal Dynamics really makes it seem like this is a permanent thing, not timed:
Dear Tomb Raider Community,
As you may have seen, we’ve just announced that Rise of the Tomb Raider, coming Holiday 2015, is exclusively on Xbox. We consider all of you to be the lifeblood of Tomb Raider and the work we do at Crystal. I’d like to give you some insight into this decision, and why we feel this is the very best thing for the Tomb Raider sequel we’re creating at the studio.
Tomb Raider in 2013 was a success due in large part to your continued support. Our goal has always been to deliver something truly special with Rise of the Tomb Raider. Today’s announcement with Microsoft is one step to help us put Tomb Raider on top of action adventure gaming. Our friends at Microsoft have always seen huge potential in Tomb Raider and have believed in our vision since our first unveil with them on their stage at E3 2011. We know they will get behind this game more than any support we have had from them in the past - we believe this will be a step to really forging the Tomb Raider brand as one of the biggest in gaming, with the help, belief and backing of a major partner like Microsoft.
This doesn’t mean that we’re walking away from our fans who only play on PlayStation or on PC. Those are great systems, with great partners, and amazing communities. We have Lara Croft and the Temple of Osiris coming to those platforms this December, and Tomb Raider: The Definitive Edition is available on PS4.
We know that there are probably many more questions and concerns. Please do send them to us, and we’ll answer to the best of our ability. Meanwhile we’re going all out to try and make something truly special - the most ambitious Tomb Raider game ever built.
Thanks,
Darrell Gallagher
Crystal Dynamics Head of Studios
http://tombraider.tumblr.com/post/94529480860/rise-of-the-tomb-raider-update
Like I said, it's impossible to know at this point.
For whatever it's worth IGN is reporting its a timed exclusive.
This is bullcrap. I really liked the reboot and want to play this one. I still liked the Last of us more but it was a lot of fun. I will be very annoyed if this never comes to PS4. I have NO intention of buying two next gen systems.
morsdraconis
08-12-2014, 06:07 PM
I can say without a doubt in my mind, it will not be a Xbox exclusive. It's Microsoft shelling out a shit load of money trying to get people to buy their console when it's going to be a timed exclusive for like 3 months and then it'll come out on everything else. There's no way in hell Crystal Dynamics is going to fuck themselves by being a Microsoft exclusive.
I OU a Beatn
08-12-2014, 07:42 PM
I can say without a doubt in my mind, it will not be a Xbox exclusive. It's Microsoft shelling out a shit load of money trying to get people to buy their console when it's going to be a timed exclusive for like 3 months and then it'll come out on everything else. There's no way in hell Crystal Dynamics is going to fuck themselves by being a Microsoft exclusive.
Crystal Dynamics has absolutely no say in the matter considering Square Enix is publishing it. The same SE that is having huge financial troubles. I see 2 potential and likely scenarios:
1. The game was in trouble due to SE's financial woes, Microsoft saw that and offered to help fund it if it released first on the Xbox platforms for a few months.
2. Microsoft wanted to bolster it's holiday lineup for next year and paid for 6 or 12 months of exclusivity.
If it's #2, there is absolutely no way this is only going to be a 3 month thing. As I said earlier, 3 months doesn't benefit Microsoft or SE. For 3 months, Microsoft isn't going to hand over enough money to SE to override the amount of money they would be losing by keeping it off Sony's platforms for only 3 months. With 3 months, it also wouldn't benefit Microsoft because 3 months really isn't anything when it comes to gaining an edge sales wise, especially on something like Tomb Raider.
If it's situation #1 where the game was going to die and Microsoft helped them out, I could absolutely see it being only a 2 or 3 month thing (bring the Xbox version in November, followed by PC/Sony platform in January or February). However, if it's #2, it has to be at least 6 months...probably a full year, IMO.
Rise of the Tomb Raider - Xbox Gamescom Trailer
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RISE OF THE TOMB RAIDER (http://www.ign.com/games/rise-of-the-tomb-raider)/ 13 AUG 2014
GAMESCOM 2014: RISE OF THE TOMB RAIDER IS A TIMED EXCLUSIVE ON XBOX671
Head of Xbox Phil Spencer also reveals there's an Xbox 360 version in the works.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/08/13/gamescom-2014-rise-of-the-tomb-raider-is-a-timed-exclusive-on-xbox?utm_campaign=ign+main+twitter&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social
GAMESCOM 2014: RISE OF THE TOMB RAIDER IS A TIMED EXCLUSIVE ON XBOX
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/08/13/gamescom-2014-rise-of-the-tomb-raider-is-a-timed-exclusive-on-xbox?utm_campaign=ign+main+twitter&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social
souljahbill
08-13-2014, 04:14 PM
Holiday 2015 was the giveaway that it was timed
I OU a Beatn
08-13-2014, 04:16 PM
A. That really sucks that this is one last gen consoles, too. Just ditch that shit already. Come on.
B. He literally didn't say anything new, except confirming they struck a deal. It still doesn't mention how long the exclusive period is for or if it's coming to other systems.
It's really weird how both MS and SE are being so secretive and so selective about how they word their stance on this.
A. That really sucks that this is one last gen consoles, too. Just ditch that shit already. Come on.
B. He literally didn't say anything new, except confirming they struck a deal. It still doesn't mention how long the exclusive period is for or if it's coming to other systems.
It's really weird how both MS and SE are being so secretive and so selective about how they word their stance on this.
SE is being "secretive" b/c they are required to under the terms of the contract they signed with MS in order to get that $ money. It's like JB, CDJ et al. are/were required to keep hush about stuff they knew about upcoming EA titles. They had to keep a lid on it in order to get their payment (trips to EA to play the game early)
MS is being "secretive" b/c they are trying ANYTHING to sell consoles. They have lost this generation now (by their own admission) and are just trying to keep the score as close as possible. They hope TR2 will force people to buy their console. Of course, this won't work (even the mighty Titanfall didn't save XB1).
MS lost the entire generation console war at E3 2013. That PR disaster of a conference and Sony jumping on it sealed their fate. As such, they will be forced to do nothing but these tactics (or develop a true/new game changer) to have any chance to keep the tally close.
I OU a Beatn
08-13-2014, 04:33 PM
Oh, so you saw their contract? Thanks for setting the record straight.
Oh, so you saw their contract? Thanks for setting the record straight.
Nope but I've seen "a few" contracts in my day. NDAs (non disclosure) are COMMON in many/most business deals. In fact, I cannot recall a SINGLE contract in nearly 10 years of practicing law where I have NOT seen one which at least limits what can be disclosed.
There is NO other logical explanation for SE to not say its also coming to PC, PS4 on X date unless they cannot do so. Moreover, MS cannot misrepresent it being a "true" exclusive b/c they could be sued in a class action for false advertising/misrepresentations to consumers who bought the console b/c they thought they had to in order to play TR2.
IF you have anything resembling a logical explanation otherwise I'm all ears. Of course, you have none. But thanks for playing.
I OU a Beatn
08-13-2014, 04:47 PM
IF you have anything resembling a logical explanation otherwise I'm all ears. Of course, you have none. But thanks for playing.
You don't know and neither do I. It very well could be the Titanfall situation all over again. Microsoft and EA were in the process of a deal and hence nothing else was said about other platforms. It wasn't until the deal was actually finished when they revealed it was a full console exclusive.
There's numerous situations that could be taking place.
1. As I said yesterday, Square Enix isn't in the best place financially. It could be that they were hesitant to keep funding the game and Microsoft stepped in to help and in return, got a window of exclusivity.
2. Microsoft and SE could still be ironing out the details, hence why no one is 100% confirming it's coming to other platforms. Maybe it's like Ryse and Dead Rising 3 and it shows up on PC a year later, but not on Playstation platforms.
3. Perhaps it's the situation you described and Microsoft simply paid for timed exclusivity.
Point being, I don't know what happened, you don't know what happened, and the media doesn't know what happened. All we know is that for this holiday period, the game is exclusive to Xbox consoles. It may be coming to other platforms after that, it may not.
Phil Spencer's comments didn't say a single new thing. He's only saying that their deal has a time period and that he did not buy the studio or the IP. Did Microsoft buy the Ryse studio or IP? Nope. Did Microsoft buy the Dead Rising 3 studio or IP? Nope. They're no longer exclusives, but they're all not coming to PS platforms...yet, anyway.
Until confirmed, it could be that exact situation. Until confirmed, it's pointless to speculate on it.
I OU a Beatn
08-15-2014, 05:18 PM
As if it's not confusing enough already:
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If it's similar to Dead Rising (odd why he would use that as an example if it's not the same), that means a PC release around a year after launch and no Playstation version whatsoever.
:dunno:
As if it's not confusing enough already:
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If it's similar to Dead Rising (odd why he would use that as an example if it's not the same), that means a PC release around a year after launch and no Playstation version whatsoever.
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"similar" could just mean its similar in that it will only be on 360/xb1 for an amount of time. that would also make it "similar". honestly this exclusive stuff from 3rd parties needs to be called out by the media as the ridiculous [CENSORED] that it is.
souljahbill
08-15-2014, 08:47 PM
"similar" could just mean its similar in that it will only be on 360/xb1 for an amount of time. that would also make it "similar". honestly this exclusive stuff from 3rd parties needs to be called out by the media as the ridiculous [CENSORED] that it is.
You sound like a commie socialist who feels entitled to the game because they have the better selling system.
:p
I OU a Beatn
08-15-2014, 08:50 PM
Hence the shrug at the end of my post. I just find it odd using Dead Rising as an example - makes it seem like a Xbox/PC only type of game. Who knows.
I actually don't mind the practice of buying exclusive rights to a game. I DO mind buying exclusive content, though. I've always said that if you're going to give one platform more content, just make the whole damn game exclusive. I always have a PS and an Xbox, so it doesn't bother me when Sony/MS have an exclusive 3rd party game.
It's also not ending any time soon. Ryse, Dead Rising 3, Sunset Overdrive, Bloodborne, and The Order 1886 are all coming from development teams that are not first party.
You sound like a commie socialist who feels entitled to the game because they have the better selling system.
:p
They can contract as they wish but this "PR" doublespeak crap just needs to stop. Its borderline misrepresentation to the consumers which (most if not all states have laws that prohibit such things). Just come out and say its exclusive to XB1 for 6 months, a year, 10 seconds whatever so the consumer can know and make their choice accordingly.
I OU a Beatn
08-15-2014, 08:54 PM
They can contract as they wish but this "PR" doublespeak crap just needs to stop. Its borderline misrepresentation to the consumers which (most if not all states have laws that prohibit such things). Just come out and say its exclusive to XB1 for 6 months, a year, 10 seconds whatever so the consumer can know and make their choice accordingly.
That's NeoGAF mentality - and it's wrong. The point of these deals, especially the timed ones, is to create a sense of total exclusiveness and potentially increase sales. The entire point would be rendered useless if they just came out and said "this will be exclusive for one month."
Sony and Microsoft both do it. Microsoft just gets called out on it more.
As I posted earlier, Sony used to do this ALL the time during the PS2 days. They still do, just with exclusive content (usually timed), which is even more annoying than buying games outright, IMO.
That's NeoGAF mentality - and it's wrong. The point of these deals, especially the timed ones, is to create a sense of total exclusiveness [when it really is NOT exclusive] and potentially increase sales. The entire point would be rendered useless if they just came out and said "this will be exclusive for one month."
Sony and Microsoft both do it. Microsoft just gets called out on it more.
As I posted earlier, Sony used to do this ALL the time during the PS2 days. They still do, just with exclusive content (usually timed), which is even more annoying than buying games outright, IMO.
That may be MS' intent but its borderline "illegal" as in they (MS and SE) could find themselves getting class-action suited in just about every state for false advertising/misrepresenting.
Sony isn't much better and I've been consistent in saying the 3rd party exclusive stuff is ridiculous. However, their language (at least this gen) has been better. They use terms such as "coming first to PS" or "exclusive content" which is more descriptive than "coming Holiday 2015, exclusively to XBox"
That sentence implies/states that TR is NEVER coming to any other platform (and that is apparently false). As such, a lawyer could easily have a field day with MS and SE in court especially in a more liberal venue like CA, NY, MA etc... where the "consumer protection" statutes are broadly written. All the lawyer would need to do is find someone who would claim they only bought a XB1 to play the Tomb Raider and then later found out it was coming to PS4 and boom there is your class action.
souljahbill
08-15-2014, 09:39 PM
That may be MS' intent but its borderline "illegal" as in they (MS and SE) could find themselves getting class-action suited in just about every state for false advertising/misrepresenting.
Sony isn't much better and I've been consistent in saying the 3rd party exclusive stuff is ridiculous. However, their language (at least this gen) has been better. They use terms such as "coming first to PS" or "exclusive content" which is more descriptive than "coming Holiday 2015, exclusively to XBox"
That sentence implies/states that TR is NEVER coming to any other platform (and that is apparently false). As such, a lawyer could easily have a field day with MS and SE in court especially in a more liberal venue like CA, NY, MA etc... where the "consumer protection" statutes are broadly written. All the lawyer would need to do is find someone who would claim they only bought a XB1 to play the Tomb Raider and then later found out it was coming to PS4 and boom there is your class action.
Start working on your payday
I OU a Beatn
08-15-2014, 09:43 PM
It's no better. "First on Playstation" is just as vague. It doesn't say how long until it's on other platforms, and it doesn't say what other platforms it's coming to. Xbox recently said that Tomb Raider is exclusive to Xbox for a "period of time," which is the exact same thing, IMO.
They both do it. It is annoying. However, that's just how it is. Neither Sony or Microsoft are going to come out and be like "this game is exclusive to our platform for ______ months, and when that time period is over with, it'll be available on __________ platforms."
I guess I just don't see the big deal. I see it as them trying to associate a particular game with their brand - for example, Microsoft is trying to get people to associate Tomb Raider with Xbox, much like Sony is trying to get people to associate Destiny with Playstation. It's smart, IMO. I guess if I only had one console it would probably annoy me, but eh, this is exactly why I get both. I don't have an allegiance, so if a game comes out that I want to play, I just play it.
SmoothPancakes
08-16-2014, 12:08 AM
It's no better. "First on Playstation" is just as vague. It doesn't say how long until it's on other platforms, and it doesn't say what other platforms it's coming to. Xbox recently said that Tomb Raider is exclusive to Xbox for a "period of time," which is the exact same thing, IMO.
They both do it. It is annoying. However, that's just how it is. Neither Sony or Microsoft are going to come out and be like "this game is exclusive to our platform for ______ months, and when that time period is over with, it'll be available on __________ platforms."
I guess I just don't see the big deal. I see it as them trying to associate a particular game with their brand - for example, Microsoft is trying to get people to associate Tomb Raider with Xbox, much like Sony is trying to get people to associate Destiny with Playstation. It's smart, IMO. I guess if I only had one console it would probably annoy me, but eh, this is exactly why I get both. I don't have an allegiance, so if a game comes out that I want to play, I just play it.
Amen. It annoyed me to no bloody end last gen with just a 360. But this gen, now that I have both an Xbox One and a PS4 and I can pick and choose what system I'm going to get a game on, it doesn't really make a difference to me anymore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyTeEpnuxhY
Xbox boss on Uncharted: I wish we had an action-adventure game like that, but we don’t
https://games.yahoo.com/news/xbox-boss-uncharted-wish-had-123054333.html
XB guru basically admitting TR2 is MS' attempt to go head to head v. UC4. IF I were a betting man I'd bet UC4 outsells TR2 at about the same ratio as PS4 is outselling XB1.
I OU a Beatn
08-18-2014, 04:10 PM
Probably, and then Gears of War and Halo will come out and outsell every single Playstation exclusive regardless of install base. What's your point?
I truly don't see the big deal with any of this. Tomb Raider has struggled to hit its sales expectations for awhile now. With the juggernaut of Microsoft behind them, they're going to be able to pour more cash into development and into marketing than they ever were before. I truly believe that regardless of what happens, the series is going to be better because of this deal.
I just don't understand how someone can hate on a guy that says these things:
"I'm a big fan of Uncharted, and I wish we had an action adventure game of that ilk. We've started some, and we've looked at them. But we don't have one today of that quality. This is an opportunity," he said. "... When you think about our portfolio, if it was a sci-fi shooter, I probably wouldn't do that! I've got one of those! Or if it's a Gears competitor, or a Forza competitor, there are things I wouldn't go after. But this is one that clearly fit in our portfolio really well."
When was the last time you saw someone at Sony/Nintendo comment about how they need better first person shooters? Better competitive shooters? Never. I find the openness of Phil Spencer to be highly refreshing personally.
I'd say the more troubling quote, especially for PS4 only owners, is this one:
Now, obviously if I'm going to partner on it, I'm a platform holder, I'm hardly going to invest to go make the PlayStation version of any game. It is a business. So when we go invest with a partner on a big franchise, we're going to come with certain needs we have out of the relationship.
With comparisons to Dead Rising 3 and comments like that, it really makes you wonder if/when a PS4 version would hit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2Sa3utO4NA
I OU a Beatn
08-19-2014, 07:40 PM
First party isn't in contact with what 3rd party is doing? Seriously?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDyvIksz2Xs
After Fallout 4 last night - If I were a betting man I bet this gets pushed back to early 2016 where UC4 awaits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnTgR57igII
bdoughty
06-20-2015, 09:42 AM
Looking good to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ19JCTOGfI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlsYXFOmWkQ
I will definitely get this game on ps4 but only used to send a small message that I hate this timed exclusive crap. Releasing a game one year late and expecting full price would be crap. I will make sure my money doesn't go directly to the developers.
souljahbill
07-26-2015, 07:51 AM
I will definitely get this game on ps4 but only used to send a small message that I hate this timed exclusive crap. Releasing a game one year late and expecting full price would be crap. I will make sure my money doesn't go directly to the developers.
What if it's a Special Edition with all the DLC included?
My will can be bent by a cheap price.
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I will definitely get this game on ps4 but only used to send a small message that I hate this timed exclusive crap. Releasing a game one year late and expecting full price would be crap. I will make sure my money doesn't go directly to the developers.
What if it's a Special Edition with all the DLC included?
I've thought about this as well and I'm also leaning towards used (or huge price drop 1st only). I LOVED the reboot (bought it on PS3 and PS4) but giving me a year old game I'm only willing to pay for the game at a year old price.
So..... what I will most likely do is get it from GameFly on launch on PS4 wait for $10 in gamefly coupons to accrue and then buy it used for whatever price I can keep it with GameFly.
souljahbill
07-27-2015, 09:44 AM
I'll just wait for the next year's Black Friday sale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UES_UC4yWtE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD6Xho-_Nio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rydhh7TFxwQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb1L1NhDJw4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2epSBiiqXs4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1ViXbnAHBQ
very positive reviews for this one 87 metacritic right now. MS was smart to lock this one up and Crystal wasn't b/c I just don't see this one selling well a year later on PS4. (I'm renting it only)
bdoughty
11-09-2015, 07:12 AM
very positive reviews for this one 87 metacritic right now. MS was smart to lock this one up and Crystal wasn't b/c I just don't see this one selling well a year later on PS4. (I'm renting it only)
It will sell just fine on the PS4 next year. Popular franchise and great reviews + PS4 user base. Not a fan of exclusives but I will get over it and will be a definite purchase.
It will sell just fine on the PS4 next year. Popular franchise and great reviews + PS4 user base. Not a fan of exclusives but I will get over it and will be a definite purchase.
maybe your right but the only reason to justify a $60 purchase of a year old game is going to be if they throw in all the xb1 dlc for "free"
bdoughty
11-09-2015, 07:40 AM
That is my hope. For having to wait a year it seems the logical thing to do (which is no given in this industry). Plus we get the bonus of having all the kinks worked out.
I'm REALLY disappointed this isn't out on PS4 now. The reviews are really good and sadly the timing with FO4 and Battlefront it is going to get squashed. If they had not gone exclusive I would have bought this one on launch and this would have been my holiday game. Now, I'm left to decide if I want to get into FO4 or just go without a new game this Christmas.
Fall gets busier.....Rise of the Tomb Raider coming October 11 to PS4. (Same release date as GOW 4 & WWE 2K17.)
Rise of the Tomb Raider: 20 Year Celebration (PS4) includes:
Award-winning Rise of the Tomb Raider
Brutal new “Extreme Survivor” difficulty mode (no checkpoints)
“Blood Ties” & “Lara’s Nightmare” premium DLC
Co-op support for “Endurance Mode”, challenging players to survive extreme conditions with a friend
Re-envisioned cold-weather outfit and weapon for Lara inspired by Tomb Raider III
Classic Lara card pack which will allow fans to play “Expedition Modes” using one of several classic Lara models
All existing DLC including “Baba Yaga: The Temple of the Witch” and “Cold Darkness Awakened”, 12 outfits, 7 weapons, 35 Expedition Cards, and more
Support for PlayStation VR that challenges players to unlock the mysteries of Croft Manor in first person
I like that the Dlc is included.
Why do so many companies stack their new releases in October? Seriously. This isn't an FPS but between COD, Battlefield, Titanfall and others coming out at the same time it's a tough month to fight for sales.
bdoughty
07-19-2016, 06:06 PM
Just FYI CLW 2: Electric Boogaloo. Currently playing the game and just FYI all the new stuff is coming to the Xbox One and PC too.
https://news.xbox.com/2016/07/19/rise-tomb-raider-20-year-celebration/
I have this game pre-ordered at 20% off but since it's a linear offline game I think I'm going to pass until Christmas. I'm sure I can find it fairly cheap over Black Friday or December sales. I do want to play it but I can wait. Probably get Skyrim later on instead. And if I don't like that game I will trade it for this one. Not 100% sure yet - hoping to see a good EB Games promo come out for it but nothing right now.
bdoughty
10-04-2016, 04:51 PM
It's not a linear game. It is mostly an open world game that is divided by sections, with a few linear areas. This is from someone who has played and beaten the game.
I enjoyed the reboot on ps3 a lot. I had bought the "remaster" on ps4 as well but the frame rate was so choppy I quit. Heard the sequel is better. Still a bit undecided about keeping my preorder or waiting until the holidays.
morsdraconis
10-04-2016, 08:26 PM
I am definitely looking forward to this one. My friend has it preordered, so I'll definitely be able to play it one way or another and looking forward to it. The Tomb Raider remake was spectacular, though the transition between Lara being scared to kill and having to come to terms with that fact of it being kill or be killed compared to then immediately having to kill like 300 dudes throughout the game was a bit meh, but otherwise, it was a really damn good game and I hear this one is better.
I'm 15% complete so far. It's a good game that feels similar to Uncharted. Cut scenes and similar game play. I'm sure if you liked the PS3 game you will like this.
I like the rpg elements that uncharted lacks. I'm playing on hard (whatever is above normal) since I read it was easy. I am trying my best to use stealth and avoid massive fire fights which also seems true to character. I am only early on but I would still classify this as a linear game but with areas that are bigger. It's not as linear as uncharted (especially 2 or 3) but I like this formula.
Have three weapons now. I like crafting health kits. Can't remember that from the first. It feels more polished than the first one and I'm enjoying it.
My Rise of Tomb Raider Review (just a tad late) :)
As a PS4 owner I had to wait a year to play this game. This game is a solid game that deserves at least an 8/10 but I feel it falls short in a few areas, particularly when compared to Uncharted 4.
This game resembles the Tomb Raider (TR) reboot that was originally released on PS3. It’s more polished imo and it maintains a strong similarity to Uncharted with its own differences as well. Where the game is similar is that there is a strong main story with cut scenes. A weakness in Rise of the Tomb Raider is the need to fill in back story items with too-convenient tape recorders and journals. This was used in the reboot and it still feels forced and largely unnecessary.
The graphics are very good but I think Uncharted 4 looked better. Tomb Raider has a lot of platforming and the pacing of the story, combat and cut scenes are done well. The puzzles weren’t that difficult and a nice touch. I was a little disappointed in the environment though. Virtually the entire game takes place in the same spot which is a cold and snowy environment (the ice did look great). In Uncharted you get exposed to a variety of locations and this is omitted here.
Two of the bigger differences between Uncharted and Tomb Raider lie in the RPG elements and open world aspects of TR. TR has three different RPG trees where you can upgrade skills to make you a better hunter, better shooter, take more damage, etc. These largely work well although you get the sense that they aren’t really that important. Being able to upgrade so you can take someone down from above is cool but I didn’t really feel I improved myself a ton or truly changed the make-up of my character.
You also scavenge for items and are able to craft health kits and upgrade weapons as you make your way through the story as well. It’s a bit odd that you can only switch your weapons of choice at base camp. You have a bow, shotgun, rifle and pistol slot that all have a variety of options and upgrades. I love the ability to choose and upgrade various weapons. This felt great but it did feel odd early in the game when I killed someone with a gun and couldn’t pick it up and use it. I could only use my bow since I didn’t have a gun equipped in my gun slot yet. You have an overwhelming arsenal including setting booby traps on dead bodies although many options are not required to use during play.
TR is not as linear as Uncharted. There are side missions to do and tombs and caves to explore. The side missions felt out of place imo but it was up to you if you wanted to do them. The tombs and caves were cool. There are a lot of things to scavenge throughout the game and you can activate Lara’s instincts (R3) to do it. This actually led to this tool being a crutch and it broke from the immersion of the game. While it told you where to go and items to collect it presented the world in black and white with highlights and did not fit in as well as Uncharted which forces you to roam and is more natural in knowing what to do. Treasure hunting was more fun in UC as a result as well.
Combat itself is solid but I think the game suffered from most combat taking place in confined sections and they didn’t last all that long. I missed having some wider, open areas where you really had to move around in a larger scale fire fight (the final chapter was better than most of the game). UC4 had some great areas like this but they were almost completely omitted in TR. On normal difficulty I found the game too easy. You could practically stand in front of enemies and avoid using cover at times. On the next difficulty (Seasoned Tomb Raider) you were forced to use more stealth and be a bit more resourceful. I found a couple of spots to be incredibly hard so I dropped back to Normal for those. There really isn’t a ton of combat in the game. You don’t face wave after wave of enemies so you don’t get bored by it but a few larger, more strategic areas would have been nice.
Overall I think this was a very good game in many areas but Uncharted outperforms head to head in a majority of them. Uncharted is a more focused experience. TR is similar and yet tries to check off too many boxes (story, some open world exploration, RPG elements, etc) that hurt it a little bit. I think the game would have been better if it scaled back some of the options. But it is still a fun game well worth playing. It just doesn’t match the standard of UC4.
For parents out there, there are some bad words including about five F bombs (two of those in journal entries) in case you are wondering about letting kids play. The sexuality is so toned down it’s a non-issue. It’s a PG-13 title imo, not 18 as labelled. I finished the game in about 13 hours and only 63% done so a lot of side missions and collectables were left on the table but they felt more like filler than an integral part of the game. Still a strong 8/10.
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