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cdj
06-01-2014, 08:29 PM
Friday night, Electronic Arts and the Collegiate Licensing Company finalized terms of the $40 million settlement with former players that now leaves the NCAA as sole defendant in the June 9 O'Bannon and March 2015 Keller trials.

The following contains information and excerpts from various media articles and reports examining the details of the settlement.


Which lawsuits were settled and how will the money be divided?

Because there were multiple lawsuits by former players seeking compensation for the usage of their likenesses, the funds from the settlement will be divvied up as follows after lawyer fees. 77 percent will go to a group led by former Arizona State quarterback Sam Keller, 12 percent to the group represented by Ed O'Bannon and 10 percent to the litigants in the suit by former Rutgers player Ryan Hart and former West Virginia Player Shawne Alston. (Courtesy: Yahoo! (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/ea-sports-and-clc-complete--40-million-settlement-with-former-ncaa-players-182050764.html))

If the settlement is approved by U.S. District Court Judge Claudia Wilken, the lawyers will receive up to one-third of the settlement funds, or $13.2 million, plus a maximum of $2.5 million in legal fees that they argue is "particularly reasonable in light of the advanced stage of this case." They state that the collective lodestar, or total amount of legal services expended, by the various plaintiffs' firms that have worked on the Keller, O'Bannon and Hart-Alston cases exceeds $30 million, plus expenses of $4 million. Courtesy: ESPN (http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/11010455/college-athletes-reach-40-million-settlement-ea-sports-ncaa-licensing-arm)


What do the plaintiffs make from this settlement?

The named plaintiffs will receive the following amount of money:


$15,000 to former Arizona State/Nebraska football player Sam Keller
$15,000 to former UCLA basketball player Ed O'Bannon
$15,000 to former Rutgers football player Ryan Hart
$5,000 to former West Virginia football player Shawne Alston
$5,000 to the remaining plaintiffs who were deposed
$2,500 for all other named plaintiffs
Courtesy: Deadspin (http://deadspin.com/ea-sports-and-clc-finalize-video-game-settlement-with-f-1584198608)


How much will other players receive?

The attorneys estimate that players who appeared in a video game from 2003 to 2005 would receive between $96 and $517 per roster year appearance, depending on how many people make claims. For players who appear in video games since 2005, the estimate is $166 to $951 per roster year appearance. If a player only appeared on a roster and not a video game from 2005 to 2014, the range is $48 to $276 per roster year.

For example, if a player at the University of California appeared in the video game for four seasons from 2007 through 2011, and assuming a 50 percent claims rate, that player's estimated recovery would be $1,328 to $1,904. In another example, if a player was on Cal's roster for four seasons from 2005 to 2009 but did not appear in the video game, and assuming a 25 percent claims rate, that player would recover between $772 and $1,104. Courtesy: Deadspin (http://deadspin.com/ea-sports-and-clc-finalize-video-game-settlement-with-f-1584198608)


Other details of note:

EA can cancel the settlement “if a certain number of class members opt out,” according to the settlement filing. The specific number of class members who would have to opt out was redacted in the public filing.

Aragon said the plaintiffs are hoping to get a claims rate of 25 percent. Because of the difficulty of locating former players, the plaintiffs plan to do a national notice campaign if Wilken approves the settlement. A preliminary approval hearing is scheduled for July 3. Courtesy: CBS Sports (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/jon-solomon/24577543/current-ncaa-players-could-benefit-from-video-game-settlement)


Current players who would be due compensation include any who have appeared in EA Sports games, a legal outcome that creates another challenge to the NCAA's prohibition on players receiving money for the use of their images as athletes.

Asked about the chances that the NCAA might object, Berman said, "The NCAA could do that. But they've released statements saying they wouldn't. To me, the definition of a professional is someone who earns a living at what they do. A payment of $2,000 to $4,000 is not earning a living." Courtesy: ESPN (http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/11010455/college-athletes-reach-40-million-settlement-ea-sports-ncaa-licensing-arm)


Have any former players made comments?

Statements and comments will likely emerge this week in newspapers and sports talk radio, however former Tennessee QB Erik Ainge took to Twitter Saturday night with his opinions.

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Courtesy: Fansided (http://fansided.com/2014/05/31/college-athletes-reach-40-million-settlement-ea-sports-former-tennessee-qb-erik-ainge-happy/#!TtF3D)


Is there any chance the NCAA and the plantiffs will reach a settlement?

Leonard Aragon, an attorney for the Sam Keller plaintiffs in the video game settlement, said settlement talks between the Keller plaintiffs and the NCAA remain ongoing. Courtesy: CBS Sports (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/jon-solomon/24577543/current-ncaa-players-could-benefit-from-video-game-settlement)

This is a change from a December 2013 statement by NCAA President Mark Emmert:

NCAA President Mark Emmert on Wednesday dismissed any talk of a settlement in an anti-trust lawsuit pertaining to the use of college athletes' names and likenesses.

"Right now, we're not having any settlement talks," said Emmert, speaking Wednesday at the IMG Intercollegiate Athletics Forum. "If their goal is to move toward a pay-for-play model, which is what it seems to be, there's no consideration of that at all." Courtesy: USA Today (http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/2013/12/11/mark-emmert-ncaa-lawsuit-ed-obannon-ea-sports-collegiate-licensing-co/3987907/)

Some Athletic Directors believe that NCAA should attempt to settle the lawsuit, while others do not. Courtesy: AL.com (http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2014/03/should_the_ncaa_settle_ed_oban.html)

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CLW
06-01-2014, 08:42 PM
$166 to $951 per roster year appearance

Congrats to Keller et al for sending a video game series down the toilet for a mere $2k (and some change) per student.

souljahbill
06-01-2014, 08:55 PM
I just hope it comes back once all the smoke is cleared with the NCAA proper. It's the 2nd most popular sport in the country.

Bohica1010
06-01-2014, 09:12 PM
Did I miss something in all the NCAA Football games I bought? I don't rememeber seeing any likeness to Sam Keller in the game other than ASU sucking. So if we are saying that ASU's QB sucking was a likeness to Sam Keller, he has a valid point, but let's be realistic about this. For those of you who invested countless hours updating rosters, was he any easy to update then anyone else because he was setup in the game originally like him? I look at the update between Montee Ball in the 2013 game with the original setup and everything that was updated in the rosters and other than being black and being fast, was it really Montee Ball? Come on!

And why in the hell are we paying kids that were on a team's roster but weren't in the game? You weren't in the damn game so there is nothing to pay you for!

Our game ruined because some moron who couldn't make money in football in the Pro's ended up wanting less than $2000. Pretty sure we could have all chipped in and got him a Visa gift card for that much!

jaymo76
06-01-2014, 09:39 PM
Just became a big fan of Erik Ainge! Great job calling it how it is!

Rudy
06-01-2014, 09:58 PM
It would be nice if the settlements opened the door for a new NCAA game.

GatorfanStovy
06-02-2014, 04:50 AM
All that Fucking mess for a chump change of like 5k? Damn it. Sore players. I bet the legal lawsuit bill was double or even triple for what they got. I just want ncaa 16 at least for next gen. So much could be done. .

SmoothPancakes
06-02-2014, 10:37 AM
The lawyers are getting $13.2 million.

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CLW
06-02-2014, 12:48 PM
The lawyers are getting $13.2 million.

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Cracks me up that people fail to realize that the ONLY winners in a lawsuit are the lawyers. Plaintiffs' attorneys get their $13.2 million pay day and the Defendants' attorneys most likely billed hundreds of thousands (and perhaps millions - depending on how much document production there was in the case) for defending the lawsuit. Class Actions are the WORST lawsuit an individual can ever be a part of (especially when you have "real" damages). #1 you never see/talk to the lawyer that "represents" you. #2 you always get the shaft when the settlement comes while "your" lawyer brings in that big pay day.

these "poor" "abused" athletes (the ones that got 4 years of free college education) get on average $2k (if they were in a video game roster all 4 years). Meanwhile, "their" lawyer gets enough $ to buy that 2nd private jet he/she has been after.

SmoothPancakes
06-02-2014, 01:16 PM
Yep. All the idiots get maybe a month's worth of utility bills paid off, while their lawyers start shopping for a new yacht. And in the middle, a great video game series is destroyed, likely forever. Hope is was worth your $2,000 assholes.

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steelerfan
06-02-2014, 02:25 PM
Hope is was worth your $2,000 assholes.

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Missing a comma, I hope!

I certainly would not pay $2,000 for an asshole (attorneys don't count).

SmoothPancakes
06-02-2014, 02:52 PM
:D. Yes, there is a missing comma in there.

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skipwondah33
06-02-2014, 03:04 PM
these "poor" "abused" athletes (the ones that got 4 years of free college education) get on average $2k (if they were in a video game roster all 4 years). Meanwhile, "their" lawyer gets enough $ to buy that 2nd private jet he/she has been after.I use to think athlete's got a "free" education as well..but it certainly isn't free. The good ones get them for a reason and the work put it while on one by no means is easy.

I'd probably rather work a retail job and go to school, than have to put up with the demands of being an athelete on a full ride. Imagine it's taxing, actually know it is not firsthand but close.

Now case can be made with whether the opportunity is taken advantage of but it certainly wasn't free.

I'd imagine athelete's wouldn't mind being charged instead of getting a "free" education...long as they got paid similar to the coaches and everyone else making bundles of cash off their efforts throughout the year and on Saturdays.

bdoughty
06-02-2014, 09:04 PM
I use to think athlete's got a "free" education as well..but it certainly isn't free. The good ones get them for a reason and the work put it while on one by no means is easy.

I'd probably rather work a retail job and go to school, than have to put up with the demands of being an athelete on a full ride. Imagine it's taxing, actually know it is not firsthand but close.

Now case can be made with whether the opportunity is taken advantage of but it certainly wasn't free.

I'd imagine athelete's wouldn't mind being charged instead of getting a "free" education...long as they got paid similar to the coaches and everyone else making bundles of cash off their efforts throughout the year and on Saturdays.


I do not recall anyone being forced to sign a scholarship. If it bothers someone so much let the next guy have it, so they can play football and earn a free education. This is why I fully support a minor league for pro football. If you want to get paid and play football, there you go. Also want a college education? Well, they would not be the first to go to school at night, online, etc, etc.

Rudy
06-02-2014, 09:41 PM
The tough thing is that only the elite college football players deserve more. Manziel brought in a ton of cash. In an open market how much would these guys get. Michigan might pay more for most of their players. Denard would have gotten some good cash.

Either way I do think kids should be able to transfer once without penalty - especially if the coach leaves.

GatorfanStovy
06-02-2014, 09:42 PM
A minor pro system would be awesome. However, would that hurt college recruiting and the draft ? Or would u have two different leagues for players in D1 schoools and the minor league like baseball?

Rudy
06-02-2014, 09:56 PM
Neither the NFL or NCAA wants a college system. Maybe the power conferences form their own league but I don't see things changing that drastically.

steelerfan
06-02-2014, 11:30 PM
Neither the NFL or NCAA wants a college system. Maybe the power conferences form their own league but I don't see things changing that drastically.

Yeah, the NFL has no desire to find something that they're getting for free now.

bdoughty
06-02-2014, 11:48 PM
Yeah, the NFL has no desire to find something that they're getting for free now.

NFL Europe lasted until 2007 (12 years). Apparently there was a desire until it was not making enough money. Yes, it was an attempt at going global but was used as a farm league for most players.

I prefer to keep college football at an amateur status. Once you go down the slippery slope of paying players you will run into a a big time mess, especially with athletes that are playing in sports that do not make money for the university (Male and Female). You simply can't just pay football players. Lawyers would have a field day and Feminists would have rallies on the fields. Not to mention that once you start paying players it makes it more difficult to keep up with all these payments and tracking schools that might be cheating.

GatorfanStovy
06-03-2014, 12:41 AM
What about bringing back the XFL ?it had a strong showing.. Well just one season but it was interesting to say the least.

bdoughty
06-03-2014, 12:47 AM
What about bringing back the XFL ?it had a strong showing.. Well just one season but it was interesting to say the least.

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JBHuskers
06-03-2014, 08:59 AM
That was unwatchable, and I'm a football and WWE fan.

skipwondah33
06-03-2014, 09:54 AM
I do not recall anyone being forced to sign a scholarship. If it bothers someone so much let the next guy have it, so they can play football and earn a free education. This is why I fully support a minor league for pro football. If you want to get paid and play football, there you go. Also want a college education? Well, they would not be the first to go to school at night, online, etc, etc.Well of course they aren't forced to sign

My point is that the education isn't "free" like some think. They have and definitely continue to earn that "free" education over the course of 4 years and prior to getting it.. make no mistake about it is being earned, whether we realize it or not sitting on the couch enjoying the games every weekend.

Now I'm not saying they should be paid, no real way to do that fairly IMO. The 3rd string QB shouldn't make as much as the 1st string QB..or someone like Manziel, etc. Then players would be upset about their compensation or not making enough, etc.

Only fair way is to give them all the same but again that will lead to problems as well. And would anyone really want to put substantial amounts of income into 18-21 year old's pockets in college...shit they get in trouble with no money.

ram29jackson
06-03-2014, 03:48 PM
most of this wouldn't be a factor/happening if the NCAA had agreed to pay the medical expenses for players getting injured.That alone is absurd but a scholarship is enough of a freebee and they all get under the table crap anyway.

plus all the NCAA rules read like some kind of muslim don't do this and that bylaws that are impossible to follow without breaking

razorback44
06-04-2014, 12:07 AM
Well of course they aren't forced to sign

My point is that the education isn't "free" like some think. They have and definitely continue to earn that "free" education over the course of 4 years and prior to getting it.. make no mistake about it is being earned, whether we realize it or not sitting on the couch enjoying the games every weekend.

Now I'm not saying they should be paid, no real way to do that fairly IMO. The 3rd string QB shouldn't make as much as the 1st string QB..or someone like Manziel, etc. Then players would be upset about their compensation or not making enough, etc.

Only fair way is to give them all the same but again that will lead to problems as well. And would anyone really want to put substantial amounts of income into 18-21 year old's pockets in college...shit they get in trouble with no money.


I had many friends on the football team when I was in school at Arkansas and I don't know a single one of them that would have traded their experience for my school and job combo.

CLW
06-09-2014, 10:23 PM
NCAA settles with former athletes
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/11055977/ncaa-reaches-20m-settlement-video-game-claims

This makes ZERO sense b/c every year a new class action lawsuit can be filed by the freshman class of athletes.

Even more interesting/bizarre is the Plaintiff's settled for exactly 1/2 what EA paid them.

Lawyers 2 - NCAA + EA + Plaintiffs 0

ram29jackson
06-10-2014, 01:13 PM
a game cancelled so a bunch of 19-20 year olds can get $600 or what ever for a pair of jordans and some pizza.

CLW
06-10-2014, 04:59 PM
Ed O'Bannon thinks Little Leaguers should get paid too. Yep sign em up Plaintiffs lawyers and sue the World Wide Leader and Little League for exploiting the kids.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/11056666/ed-obannon-takes-stand-landmark-antitrust-suit-ncaa

SmoothPancakes
06-10-2014, 05:09 PM
Oh for fucks sake. :fp: Someone just take this jackass out with a car already.

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GatorfanStovy
06-10-2014, 08:10 PM
Fuck this guy !! :fp: little league's really man..

CLW
06-10-2014, 08:49 PM
Oh for fucks sake. :fp: Someone just take this jackass out with a car already.

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Fuck this guy !! :fp: little league's really man..

It is the EXACT same argument (legally) as O'Bannon et al. argument is now. ESPN broadcasts NCAA/Little League games and makes money off of it but the athletes don't get paid for it.

Honestly, its the best move by the NCAA's counsel to date b/c it shows just how truly RIDICULOUS all these pay the athletes morons are.

oweb26
06-11-2014, 09:24 AM
It is the EXACT same argument (legally) as O'Bannon et al. argument is now. ESPN broadcasts NCAA/Little League games and makes money off of it but the athletes don't get paid for it.

Honestly, its the best move by the NCAA's counsel to date b/c it shows just how truly RIDICULOUS all these pay the athletes morons are.

To totally overreach this argument can't this be said for anything/anyone that is shown on TV? If CNN broadcast a trial does the lawyers/judge/defendant get money?

CLW
06-11-2014, 10:27 AM
To totally overreach this argument can't this be said for anything/anyone that is shown on TV? If CNN broadcast a trial does the lawyers/judge/defendant get money?

Yes which is why we had a 1st Amendment at one time. I've long said EA/NCAA's strongest argument against this case is a free speech constitutional defense. However, liberals (such as our federal judge in San Fransico and the 9th Circuit) don't pay much attention to that old outdated document.

The only hope is a 5-4 SCOTUS ruling.

souljahbill
06-11-2014, 10:43 AM
Wait, if it's settled, what's going to the Supreme Court?

CLW
06-11-2014, 11:07 AM
Wait, if it's settled, what's going to the Supreme Court?

The t.v. lawsuit is still going - the video game lawsuit settled.

souljahbill
06-11-2014, 11:10 AM
WTF? I didn't realize there was a tv lawsuit. That's dumb. Can he sue the internet as well? I'm sure Ed O'Bannon has generated money for websites by increasing web views. What a fucking penis. :fp:

TIMB0B
06-14-2014, 10:56 PM
Coaches and players alike have argued about wanting stipends for cost of attendance. Would it be plausible for EA to provide some compensation in stipend-form to these athletes to circumvent pay for play rules? Or maybe simply a free copy of the game? Hell, bowl games reward players with gifts. Why is the NCAA okay with that?


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