PlayStation Now - Sony's Streaming Service for PS games

[CLW]

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/01/07/sony-reveals-its-streaming-service-playstation-now

:))

[JBHuskers]

Since we already knew this was coming, I wish the reveal would have included a release date.

[CLW]

Since we already knew this was coming, I wish the reveal would have included a release date.

Yeah that would have been nice + a list of the launch titles available and whether it is included in PS+ or not.

[JBHuskers]

Yeah that would have been nice + a list of the launch titles available and whether it is included in PS+ or not.

I'm guessing the price will be on par with Gamefly, and half that for PS+.

[I OU a Beatn]

It's definitely not going to simply be "included with Plus." That would be a good thing to do if Sony was trying to boost subscription sales of Plus, but since Plus is already required for online play, they don't need to do that. I'm guessing JB is right and it'll be similar to GF.

[gschwendt]

A video service will coincide with it allowing for streaming to all devices...

"It's all a bit vague, really. I'm imagining it as if Tivo and Netflix had a baby, only it only exists on the internet."
http://kotaku.com/sonys-cloud-based-video-service-will-stream-live-tv-ev-1496419805

[CLW]

UPDATE 2-Sony to test PlayStation-based cloud TV service
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/07/ces-sony-idUSL2N0KH1IM20140107

Looks like Sony might be trying to become my cable provider.

[CLW]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y4UP0z3eWE

[CLW]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSWX30kUamA

[CLW]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONodIKe6Zag

[CLW]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stz4RZ1R-kI

[CLW]

Sign up for possibility to access to closed beta

http://us.playstation.com/playstationnow/

[GatorfanStovy]

overrated ,, just saying.

[JBHuskers]

:fp:

[bdoughty]

overrated ,, just saying.

http://i.imgur.com/gyvgDEp.gif

[CLW]

PlayStation Now Requires 5MB/s ConnectionAnd you shouldn't throw out your DualShock 3.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/01/09/playstation-now-requires-5mbs-connection

[JBHuskers]

Sign up for possibility to access to closed beta

http://us.playstation.com/playstationnow/

Thanks for that. Signed up.

[CLW]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zts_5o0Al0c

[CLW]

PlayStation Now Beta Invites Starting To ArriveCheck your inbox!
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/01/29/playstation-now-beta-invites-starting-to-arrive

[CLW]

[CENSORED] Sony I didn't get one. That's it I'm making a youtube video dropping 1 million F bombs a minute and returning my PS4 and buying an XB1. :nod:

[SmoothPancakes]

[CENSORED] Sony I didn't get one. That's it I'm making a youtube video dropping 1 million F bombs a minute and returning my PS4 and buying an XB1. :nod:

Yeah, that's quite alright, you can stay with Sony. We like our water unpolluted over on the XB1 side of the ocean. :) :P

[I OU a Beatn]

I got one. Considering you need a PS3, it's kind of pointless. I don't care how it works on PS3, I want to see how it works on PS4/Vita.

[SCClassof93]

I got one. Considering you need a PS3, it's kind of pointless. I don't care how it works on PS3, I want to see how it works on PS4/Vita.

I just want the ps4 to play games I have already bought consistently.

[CLW]

Games Industry Analyst Thinks 'PlayStation Now is a Joke''No publisher' will license content less than two years old, says Michael Pachter.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/02/05/games-industry-analyst-thinks-playstation-now-is-a-joke

[JBHuskers]

Analyst used loosely with Michael Pachter.

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[CLW]

Analyst used loosely with Michael Pachter.

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Yeah if memory serves he was the same guy that said PS4 would be $500 minimum. Nevertheless there are doubters out there.

[JBHuskers]

Yeah if memory serves he was the same guy that said PS4 would be $500 minimum. Nevertheless there are doubters out there.

Pachter is a tool.

[I OU a Beatn]

He has a point. What publisher is going to put a new or semi-new game on a streaming service? As soon as they do that, no one is going to go out and pay $60 for it. Unless Sony is cutting them some huge checks for doing so (and they're not Microsoft, so they don't have that kind of money to throw around), the only games that are going to be on there are the sames games on Plus - 2+ year old games and indie titles.

I don't care either way, PS Now doesn't even remotely interest me other than maybe being able to play PS3 titles on my Vita.

[CLW]

He has a point. What publisher is going to put a new or semi-new game on a streaming service? As soon as they do that, no one is going to go out and pay $60 for it. Unless Sony is cutting them some huge checks for doing so (and they're not Microsoft, so they don't have that kind of money to throw around), the only games that are going to be on there are the sames games on Plus - 2+ year old games and indie titles.

I don't care either way, PS Now doesn't even remotely interest me other than maybe being able to play PS3 titles on my Vita.

Well none but that's NOT what the service was pitched as. Rather, pitched as play your old PS "classic" games on PS4. Sony will not lose a single TLOU sale if/when they put it up on the service and likely they will gain additional revenue for people who will pay again for the ability to play it on their PS4.

You won't see any new PS3, PS2, PS1 games on the PS4. But apparently that needed to be said b/c some are not intellectually capable of understanding the obvious.

IF I were a publisher with a PS classic I'd jump at the chance to get a royalty to stream say oh I dunno NCAA 05. Then again under IOU's logic EA would lose a ton of sales for all those new copies of NCAA 05 still out in the wild. :nod:

[I OU a Beatn]

IF I were a publisher with a PS classic I'd jump at the chance to get a royalty to stream say oh I dunno NCAA 05. Then again under IOU's logic EA would lose a ton of sales for all those new copies of NCAA 05 still out in the wild. :nod:


Unless Sony is cutting them some huge checks for doing so (and they're not Microsoft, so they don't have that kind of money to throw around), the only games that are going to be on there are the sames games on Plus - 2+ year old games and indie titles.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but would NCAA '05 (you know, a game from 10 years ago) not fall under the 2+ year old game category I was speaking about?

Honestly, if that's what it's going to be, how many people do you think are going to pay probably $50 a year just to be able to stream old games?

[CLW]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but would NCAA '05 (you know, a game from 10 years ago) not fall under the 2+ year old game category I was speaking about?

Honestly, if that's what it's going to be, how many people do you think are going to pay probably $50 a year just to be able to stream old games?

Well this will all be for not in a few years when PS3 games aren't being made anymore. Nevertheless, I suspect games will be at least 1 year old before being available to stream (unless they come up with some sort of rental thing with the option to buy at the end of a 24-48 hour period).

Who would pay for it? Honestly assuming the library is decent I would to be able to go through the old GOW, UC, TLOU, and other classics again (or for the 1st time) on the PS4.

Went to metacritc to look at the all-time highest scores for ps3

GTA iv - 08
GTA v - 13
UC2 - 09
Arkham City - 11
LBP - 08
RDR - 10
TLOU - 13
Portal 2 - 11
Bioshock Infinite - 13
COD MW2 - 09

Out of the Top 10 games of all time other than GTA V I honestly don't think any of those games would lose much if any actual sales from streaming. On the other hand, I'd love to pick up and play RDR as an example (never got far into it), replay the UCs, TLOU, etc....

Moreover, with PS4 now out I hardly think we will be seeing too many PS3 classics now that aren't also on PS4.

[I OU a Beatn]

My point exactly. If all that's going to be available is games that have been out for a year or two and indie titles, what's the reason to pay for the subscription? Sony needs a compelling reason for the consumer to subscribe to their service, and right now, I don't see it, especially for the price I'm pretty confident they're going to try to charge.

The smart thing would be to get PS3/PS4 games on the service and then get the service on handheld devices with iOS and Android. That's the absolutely only way I see the service ever having success.

[CLW]

Here is a group of people that will/should buy plus 360 only owners that switched to PS4:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdAgnV4u0qE

[CLW]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0_VGmxaRYw

[jaymo76]

So I'm going to pay to stream a game that I formerly owned...???... um...???...??? Or I guess I could just keep playing the games on the PS3... Personally I don't like this concept at all as it seems like it's a 100% cash grab. This is not the type of "loyalty" I would expect from a company I have given a boatload of $$$ over the past decade. It was a classy move when Nintendo made the WiiU backwards compatible. Sony could take a lesson from them in this regard.

I don't mind the rental concept for games, that's fine but a charge for previously owned games simply to stream them seems very silly IMO.

[I OU a Beatn]

I've said all along that this will never catch on. Stream PS1 games? Niche. Stream PS2 games? Niche. Stream PS3 games? Niche. Potentially stream PS4 games to Vita (a niche device itself) or PS3? Niche.

I just don't see the market for it, especially if they're going to charge that much for it. I'd much rather they spend the time getting dedicated servers setup for their first party titles rather than allowing to stream titles we already own. Online in their exclusive games is always infested with lag.

[JBHuskers]

Just got my voucher code for the beta.

[CLW]

PlayStation Now Beta Has 'Rental' System and a Ton of New GamesLooks like you'll be able to rent games for up to a month, though we don't yet know how much it'll cost.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/04/22/playstation-now-beta-has-rental-system-and-a-ton-of-new-games

[JBHuskers]

IGN broke the beta agreement :o :fp: :D

I've been messing around with it for a couple weeks now.

[SmoothPancakes]

I would potentially be interested in this when I get a PS4 and MLB: The Show, however, they're gonna have to do a hell of a lot better on that game list before I'd consider giving them any money for PS Now. There is not a single game on that current list that even remotely interests me.

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[JBHuskers]

My PS3 is still going to be in regular use for the next few years, so the service won't be for me either.

[SmoothPancakes]

Just got my voucher code for the PlayStation Now beta tonight. Just downloaded it and got through all the legal mumbojumbo. Not really much of a selection right now, granted it's only the beta. Currently game options are, all PS3 games:

PixelJunk Eden
All Zombies Must Die!
Ben 10 Omniverse
Big Sky Infinity
Choplifter HD
Dead Island Riptide
Eat Lead: The Return of Matt Hazard
Sniper Ghost Warrior 2
Hunter's Trophy 2 - America
Legasista
Mercury Hg
MX vs ATV: Alive
Oddworld: Stranger's Wrath HD
Overlord: Raising Hell
Pacific Rim
Papo & Yo
Poker Night 2
Rocketbirds: Hardboiled Chicken
Tales from Space: About a Blob
Way of the Samurai 3

The good thing, at least for the beta, all of the games are free, so I can try ones that sound interesting and if they turn out to not be that great, oh well. Once PSNow officially releases however, they better get some damn good AAA games on there though.

Edit - Since everything is free in the beta, it's essentially impossible to guess at pricing, but you will be able to choose to rent games for 1, 7 or 30 day periods.

[JBHuskers]

Are you supposed to post this? I know in the PS3 beta they said not to.

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[SmoothPancakes]

Are you supposed to post this? I know in the PS3 beta they said not to.

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I looked through their agreement you have to agree to, but nothing jumped out at me. Granted that was at 11pm last night. If not, then I can always edit the post and remove it. It seems rather stupid though. I can understand with gaming news sites like IGN and whatnot before the beta, but being in the beta stage right now, you're talking thousands of people in this thing, it's going to pretty much be public knowledge by now. It'd be like getting into the beta for Destiny, but then not being allowed to talk about it. Once it gets to a certain point of membership numbers, having any true expectation of people not talking about it is asinine.

[JBHuskers]

It must have been stricter on the PS3 one. I know that information there wasn't to be shared.

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[SmoothPancakes]

Well, I'll go back later today when I get on my PS4 and take a look at the agreement again, check it more closely to make sure. Just glancing through it all last night, nothing really jumped out saying you couldn't share anything. If I see something I missed, like I said, I'll just edit my post and remove the info in it. I doubt a post on TGT would be as much an issue as say a writer or someone at IGN or wherever else making a whole story about it. :)

[JBHuskers]

Yeah very true :D you're right. I don't remember seeing anything when I did the PS4 one as opposed to the PS3 one. Unless it was in the e-mail that had the code.

[jaymo76]

If that list is available on release... 100% pass. Wow! That list is awful IMO.

[JBHuskers]

I bet it isn't. Once they start charging, the games will be better.

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[SmoothPancakes]

Yeah, I saw something in the app saying that list is for testing purposes only and that there'd be different games in the released app.

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[JBHuskers]

Pricing info came out. Sounds like $2.99 is the 1-day price, and $19.99 is the 30-day price for rentals. I really don't know if this will take off unless there are discounts or perks for PS+

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[CLW]

Pricing info came out. Sounds like $2.99 is the 1-day price, and $19.99 is the 30-day price for rentals. I really don't know if this will take off unless there are discounts or perks for PS+

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For $20/mo I'll bite if the library is good and probably just cancel (or lessen my games out plan) my GameFly subscription.

[JBHuskers]

I think that's $20 per game. I could be wrong.

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[JBHuskers]

Yep found the article on Gizmodo. They're looking into subscription models, but for now it's game by game rental.

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[gschwendt]

For $3 I might rent a game here or there but I can't imagine ever renting a game for a month. They really should be closer to redbox prices though, especially since these are all older games.

[CLW]

Yep found the article on Gizmodo. They're looking into subscription models, but for now it's game by game rental.

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Ah well that changes things. I'll prob rent a few here and there but until there is a subscription model I doubt I use it much.

[SmoothPancakes]

Yeah, I think I'd probably pass now. Only one day for $3, $20 for a month, and indeed on a game by game basis instead of something monthly. If they go something monthly akin to Gamefly, and they get PS3, PS2 and PS1 games on the service, then I'll be willing to spend the money.

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[JBHuskers]

Eventually this will evolve, but yeah nothing I need right off the bat since I still use the PS3 a lot anyways.

[CLW]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5003E3hsBE

[jaymo76]

Based on the current pricing, there is no way I will be getting this. It really sucks that rather than backwards compatibility, we get a system that gouges loyal customers. WiiU has to be given credit for being the only backwards compatible next gen console.

[JBHuskers]

Based on the current pricing, there is no way I will be getting this. It really sucks that rather than backwards compatibility, we get a system that gouges loyal customers. WiiU has to be given credit for being the only backwards compatible next gen console.

Agreed.

[CLW]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJQmtabdDUI

[CLW]

Yeah the problem with this service (as current setup) is the lack of a subscription model and for twitch timing games are probably going to suffer due to the cloud.

[CLW]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnCGCiEYDHI

[jaymo76]

That clip pretty much nailed it.

[jaymo76]

I love the idea of a netflixesque version of ps now.

[JBHuskers]

Yeah the way it is has no value at all.

[CLW]

Yep the best model is to use this like a GameFly. I'd more than happily cancel my gamefly and pay $20-$30/mo for unlimited PSNow rentals.

[CLW]

THE PLAYSTATION NOW OPEN BETA BEGINS TOMORROW IN NORTH AMERICA

Share.
Open beta to kick off with 100 games.


"We're working diligently to bring a subscription option to gamers to compliment our rental offering for PlayStation Now," said Buser. "We believe that offering both of these options would provide gamers the freedom to discover and play games in ways that weren't before possible."[COLOR=#838383]]

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/07/30/sony-may-offer-a-subscription-option-for-playstation-now

Yeah the subscription model is the only way I am interested in this.

[CLW]

Also - given the "frosty" relationship between Sony and EA - I'd be STUNNED if we saw/see any EA games available via PSNow

[JBHuskers]

Also - given the "frosty" relationship between Sony and EA - I'd be STUNNED if we saw/see any EA games available via PSNow

Except there is an EA game in PS+ next month.

[CLW]

Except there is an EA game in PS+ next month.

I'm sorry I missed the article/announcement that + and PSNow had merged.

Of course, + is not PSNow. Presumably - Sony paid EA $X for the ability to give it away via + for 30 days. Moreover, presumably this deal was setup well before the whole EA Access "deal" (or lack thereof) went down.

You really think EA is going to put their entire PS library (PS1, PS2, PS3 and PS4) onto Sony's eventual subscription model for PS owners to play?

No, b/c it would DESTROY the entire idea/"value" of EA Access Vault (hell the Vault on XB1 can presumably only play 9 months worth of games right now b/c it cannot play 360 or XB games) leaving the only benefits (1) early access (2) 10% DLC discount.

[JBHuskers]

You said a frosty releationship between Sony and EA, that would encompass everything the way you put it.

[jaymo76]

Just had a chance to check out the games and prices on playstation now... the only word that comes to mind is "horrendous!" To hear the comment yesterday that "EA Access doesn't offer good value" only to come out the next day with this. Horrendous!

[CLW]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCyAT9PBgEc

[CLW]

Just had a chance to check out the games and prices on playstation now... the only word that comes to mind is "horrendous!" To hear the comment yesterday that "EA Access doesn't offer good value" only to come out the next day with this. Horrendous!

and when/if they change it to a subscription model for $15-$25/mo with unlimited access to their entire library how is the "value" then?

hell, at the end of the video above they all but say a subscription model is coming of course no pricing but assuming they hit a "sweet spot" in pricing there is no way anyone can claim that an app for one (many) publisher(s) is a better value than a single app with a catalog of better games (both in quantity # genre types and overall quality).

[I OU a Beatn]

and when/if they change it to a subscription model for $15-$25/mo with unlimited access to their entire library how is the "value" then?

hell, at the end of the video above they all but say a subscription model is coming of course no pricing but assuming they hit a "sweet spot" in pricing there is no way anyone can claim that an app for one (many) publisher(s) is a better value than a single app with a catalog of better games (both in quantity # genre types and overall quality).

Have you seen the games they're offering in the Now beta? There isn't a single legitimate good game in there entire catalog. Maybe eventually, but it's all junk right now.

EA's offering right now is no doubt way better than what is available in the Now beta right now.

[souljahbill]

I'm quoting myself:

I'm with Jaymo. I'd rather pay $30 a year to play last year's EA games than $15 a month to play PS1/2/3 games.

[skipwondah33]

Can't believe EA is "winning" in people's eyes for once :D

[jaymo76]

and when/if they change it to a subscription model for $15-$25/mo with unlimited access to their entire library how is the "value" then?

hell, at the end of the video above they all but say a subscription model is coming of course no pricing but assuming they hit a "sweet spot" in pricing there is no way anyone can claim that an app for one (many) publisher(s) is a better value than a single app with a catalog of better games (both in quantity # genre types and overall quality).

Honestly at $15-20 per month I still do not see the value at that pricing. In the list of games the only one I saw that I like (and own on ps3) is Port Royale 3. Here is the thing, EA Access essentially lets you download and "own" the games for as long as you have the service for a very reasonable price. Let's look at the math, $30 per year for games pretty much all of us on this site play plus a few others OR assuming PSNow goes monthly subscription, between say $200-$240 dollars per year to stream "games" (using that term lightly as most of these games I have never heard of before).

[CLW]

Have you seen the games they're offering in the Now beta? There isn't a single legitimate good game in there entire catalog. Maybe eventually, but it's all junk right now.

EA's offering right now is no doubt way better than what is available in the Now beta right now.

Well I'm not sure EA is offering "good" games either since they are all 1 year old+ and none of them were particularly good even when they were new (other than perhaps FIFA). One of them was in fact AWFUL (Live).

Metacritic Scores for the free XB1 titles:

FIFA 88
Battlefield 84 (if I recall was genuinely panned by users as being filled with bugs whether that is fixed or not i don't know)
Peggle 77
Madden 73
Live 36

So the average Metacritic score for EA's "value" is 71.6.

If you guys see "value" in playing year old titles + the benefit of 2 hour rentals (that is all that is guaranteed right now) and 10% DLC discounts for Ultimate Team and other DLC more power to you.

However, to call EA Access "Netflix for Games" is a joke. #1 EA doesn't make all games. #2 You don't get access to all of EA's titles for the fee only the games EA decides and I suspect very rarely will it be the newest title (other than titles that bomb like UFC and Live)

[jaymo76]

Well I'm not sure EA is offering "good" games either since they are all 1 year old+ and none of them were particularly good even when they were new (other than perhaps FIFA). One of them was in fact AWFUL (Live).

Metacritic Scores for the free XB1 titles:

FIFA 88
Battlefield 84 (if I recall was genuinely panned by users as being filled with bugs whether that is fixed or not i don't know)
Peggle 77
Madden 73
Live 36

If you guys see "value" in playing year old titles + the benefit of 2 hour rentals (that is all that is guaranteed right now) and 10% DLC discounts for Ultimate Team and other DLC more power to you.

However, to call EA Access "Netflix for Games" is a joke. #1 EA doesn't make all games. #2 You don't get access to all of EA's titles for the fee only the games EA decides and I suspect very rarely will it be the newest title (other than titles that bomb like UFC and Live)


Okay but honest question for you. Based on what you see and using your own estimated number is paying $200-$240 per year a "good deal?" I know you hate everything Microsoft and love everything Sony but would you actually be willing to pay that much to stream games? It seems excessive to me.

[CLW]

Okay but honest question for you. Based on what you see and using your own estimated number is paying $200-$240 per year a "good deal?" I know you hate everything Microsoft and love everything Sony but would you actually be willing to pay that much to stream games? It seems excessive to me.

Yes $200 - $240 a year = 3-4 full priced games at retail right now. That is good "value" assuming the following:



PS Now's Catalog is constantly updating and eventually becomes "full blown" (the entire or nearly the entire PS1, PS2, PS3 libraries depending on whether 3rd party publishers - like EA - cooperate)
The games have or will eventually have "Full Support" (save/resume, trophies, ability to play others online in multiplier, etc..)
There aren't allot of "tech" issues (lag, dropped connections, etc...)
Sony eventually starts adding "new" PS4 titles to the library such as "indy" titles


Honestly, I eventually see + and PSNow eventually merging into one service to go along with your PS4. This gives you the ability to stream "old"/"classic" titles and is constantly updating its library of "classics" and also providing the user with "brand new" games as well (like + is doing with allot of indies).

YEARS down the road (possibly by the end of the PS4 cycle) I could see say "TLOU 4" (and other Sony 1st party titles) being released on release day onto PS+/Now. If/when that catches on other 3rd party studios could follow suit and boom the entire gaming industry is in the cloud/digital and is available in a subscription model. (of course when/if this happens the price undoubtedly would go up).

Of course the alternative to those who do not subscribe to PSNow is to buy games at retail or digitally separately.

In short, I think allot of people are thinking too much about PSNow's short term problems and not thinking about what Sony appears to want to turn this service into.

Of course, whether Sony can pull off the long term vision remains to be seen. However, IF they pull if off they will be WAY ahead of everyone in this area (which many believe is the inevitable future of console gaming). MS would be way behind in part b/c they allowed EA to setup a similar concept on their console.

Now if PSNow is successful EA will have to "eat it" come to Sony hat in hand and request for their titles to be put on PSNow/+ too to get their games and get $ from the console outselling its nearest competitor 3:1 ratio.

By the way that same price/value would be there for MS as well if they could pull off the same thing (with their exclusives in place of Sony's). However, to my knowledge they do NOT have anything in place close to PSNow right now.

[souljahbill]

I just think people would prefer to play a year old Need For Speed game than the PS1 version of Crash Team Racing.

[I OU a Beatn]

Well I'm not sure EA is offering "good" games either since they are all 1 year old+ and none of them were particularly good even when they were new (other than perhaps FIFA). One of them was in fact AWFUL (Live).

Oh, so you got over your sickness when you play first person shooters? What did you not like about Battlefield 4? You also bought an Xbox One? What didn't you like about Peggle 2?

Like I said, Sony is offering worse than year old games right now. The vast majority of it is 2 or 3 year old stuff that was never good in the first place and can probably be bought for under $5. If that's truly their launch lineup for PS Now, it's going to suffer an extremely bumpy launch.

[CLW]

Oh, so you got over your sickness when you play first person shooters? What did you not like about Battlefield 4? You also bought an Xbox One? What didn't you like about Peggle 2?

Like I said, Sony is offering worse than year old games right now. The vast majority of it is 2 or 3 year old stuff that was never good in the first place and can probably be bought for under $5. If that's truly their launch lineup for PS Now, it's going to suffer an extremely bumpy launch.

It's called google and reading articles.

http://www.joystiq.com/2013/12/04/ea-fixing-battlefield-4-a-priority-for-dice/

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/12/12/ea-investigated-by-law-firm-over-battlefield-4?utm_campaign=ign+main+twitter&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social


Moreover, one could simply have read posts from the most "knowledgeable" and "all knowing" person here re Battlefield 4:


I've NEVER seen a game with so many problems at launch as Battlefield 4 had, and it took them MONTHS to fix a lot of them.


Hell, Battlefield 4 is STILL in beta as far as I'm concerned. A game the size of Battlefield still rubber band lagging 7 months after release. :smh:


I have no pity [regarding above lawsuit against EA]. The game in it's launch and current state is hot garbage. There is absolutely no doubt that EA knew it wasn't ready and released it anyway so it could compete with this year's Call of Duty. They deserve every single thing that potentially happens.


Do a quick search around the internet for it. If you're not having any problems, then you're in the vast, and I mean VAST minority. There's tons of people noticing the hit detection, constants disconnections for some people, constant lag for some people, horrible spawn location and logic, and all kinds of other glitches. There's a ton of things that are wrong with this game, and it's specifically because it was rushed to beat Call of Duty Ghosts to the market.


Like I said, being able to overlook issues with the game is great trait to have; I honestly wish I was able to do the same. However, I can't, and there's no getting around that the online portion of this game right now and ever since launch has been hot garbage and seemingly everyone involved (DICE, media, investors, countless customers on the internet) acknowledges that.


I guess I should consider myself lucky, though, as a lot of people can't even stay connected to games, and at least up to this point, I have not had that problem. Minor but consistent lag, horrific hit detection, and terrible spawn logic are my huge issues.


Yes, but you're not losing accuracy in this game. Your shots are simply not registering even though they should be, aka, terrible game mechanics.


Played a few games the past few nights on PS4. All the matches were just infested with lag. I can't believe I actually forked over $50 for Premium. :smh:


There's people that still can't connect at all. It's an absolute mess.


Check that thread out. All kinds of different problems for different people. Easily the most inconsistent crap shoot of a game I've played in recent memory.


"THE END OF DECEMBER 2XP EVENT FOR PREMIUM MEMBERS HAS BEEN POSTPONED AND WILL BE RUN AT A LATER DATE. STAY TUNED FOR MORE INFORMATION. WE APOLOGIZE FOR THE INCONVENIENCE."

:fp:


I don't care about the event. It's more about [EA] being so incompetent they can't even manage to do something as simple as that when they say.

I'll let the other members here try to decide who is talking out of both sides of his ass on that one. :nod:

[CLW]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgOGHXk9zJY

[I OU a Beatn]

At launch and during the first few weeks those comments are accurate.

I would say the absolute same thing about The Last of Us right now with how awful it's matchmaking and lag is, so does that mean you're going to go on record as saying it's not good?

Besides, whether or not Battlefield is good was not my point. You've never played it (and we ALL know you've never played it - or Peggle 2 for that matter), so you have ZERO right to state your opinion on it. Plain and simple.

[GatorfanStovy]

I just think people would prefer to play a year old Need For Speed game than the PS1 version of Crash Team Racing.

I would love a HD remastered of Need For Speed underground 2.

[souljahbill]

I would love a HD remastered of Need For Speed underground 2.

Can't lie, as would I.

[CLW]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCtlYd0oyCc

[CLW]

$20/mo or $15/mo (if you buy 3 months)

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/01/05/this-is-how-much-ps-now-subscriptions-cost?abthid=54ab0d837062a40466000011

[SmoothPancakes]

Unless they get a MUCH better selection of games than what they have had during the beta, I'll still pass. They need to get some AAA shit on there.

[CLW]

Unless they get a MUCH better selection of games than what they have had during the beta, I'll still pass. They need to get some AAA shit on there.

I agree the selection needs to get much larger. However, if they do it properly PSNow can basically become the Netflix for gaming.

[SmoothPancakes]

I agree the selection needs to get much larger. However, if they do it properly PSNow can basically become the Netflix for gaming.

Yeah, if they explode the selection way beyond just 100 games, it could be something worthwhile. I'm just glad they went to a monthly subscription and at a reasonable price compared to the per-game crap they were doing in the beta.

[CLW]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p22N80QstzI

[SCClassof93]

At launch and during the first few weeks those comments are accurate.

I would say the absolute same thing about The Last of Us right now with how awful it's matchmaking and lag is, so does that mean you're going to go on record as saying it's not good?

Besides, whether or not Battlefield is good was not my point. You've never played it (and we ALL know you've never played it - or Peggle 2 for that matter), so you have ZERO right to state your opinion on it. Plain and simple.

Think I will exercise my lack of a right to state an opinion and state there are a lot of games and many other things I would not enjoy and I know this without ever trying them.

[CLW]

The PlayStation Now subscription games you need to play
http://venturebeat.com/2015/01/13/the-playstation-now-subscription-games-you-need-to-play/view-all/

[CLW]

BTW - I'm going to start the 7 day trial tonight and assuming no major problems going with the 3 month plan. I see enough games in the library right now to justify it for me for at least 3 months. Allot of these games were put out when I was a sports only "gamer" so I missed nearly all of these titles. Judging from the posts on the PS blog, the impression I get is that more games will be added on a rolling basis (perhaps as often as monthly) starting with PS3 games and eventually working back to PS2 and PS1 games.

I'll post my thoughts as I try multiple titles and note any issues with lag/graphics/etc...

[CLW]

Update: downloaded the app and went to start but got an error message. No clue if its related to PSN being down or not but everything else on my ps4 seems to be working fine.

[CLW]

I have a wired connection with the following specs:

http://www.speedtest.net/result/4059494364.png


Played quite a bit of Hot Shots Golf last night and this a.m.

I have noticed ZERO lag when timing my shots. The graphics are pretty good but I can tell a difference between 720 and 1080. I also noticed a bit of a dip in graphics quality when my wife started streaming on Netflix. However, I did not notice any lag issues even then. Trophies popped for you trophy whores out there.

The subscription library could be better but I'm happy with it to start and if they keep updating it I'll pay $15/mo for the ability to go back and play games. In fact, I'm considering lowering my GameFly plan. Right now, I have a 4 out at a time plan thinking about lowering it to 2 out at a time.

[CLW]

Sony Adds Five Games To PlayStation Now Service, Including Uncharted 2



Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
God of War II HD
Red Faction: Armageddon
Galaga Legions DX
Arcana Heart 3



http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2015/02/02/sony-adds-five-games-to-playstation-now-service-including-uncharted-2.aspx?utm_content=buffer0b0ec&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

[CLW]

If they add 5+ games like this a month my subscription is going to be WELL WORTH IT.

[CLW]

Anyone else (other than me) taking advantage of the new subscription model? I'm really enjoying it and its a Trophy Whore's dream - working on a Ben 10 :plat:

[CLW]

5 New Games Added For March:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaHQpO6OLmc

[CLW]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l__8rGMxDM

[CLW]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU7FGXhQHJY

[JBHuskers]

I wonder how many people are actually subscribed to this. Nothing in that is a big seller to me to jump on it.

[CLW]

I wonder how many people are actually subscribed to this. Nothing in that is a big seller to me to jump on it.

I do not know the # but I imagine it is not very high. I have been subscribed since the beginning and I really enjoy it. It gives me access to a ton of games I have never played or haven't played in years and will hopefully get back to playing one day.

In fact, I am so happy with it I'm probably going to just cancel or lower my GameFly subscription once things get a little more settled after my move.

[JBHuskers]

I do not know the # but I imagine it is not very high. I have been subscribed since the beginning and I really enjoy it. It gives me access to a ton of games I have never played or haven't played in years and will hopefully get back to playing one day.

In fact, I am so happy with it I'm probably going to just cancel or lower my GameFly subscription once things get a little more settled after my move.

Looks like Gamefly is doing it soon too...

http://www.theverge.com/2015/6/2/8704473/gamefly-streaming-service

[SmoothPancakes]

Looks like Gamefly is doing it soon too...

http://www.theverge.com/2015/6/2/8704473/gamefly-streaming-service
Unfortunately it's only available, for now, at launch on Amazon Fire TV.

[JBHuskers]

Unfortunately it's only available, for now, at launch on Amazon Fire TV.
I have that!

[CLW]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZStZSG5CGY

[CLW]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPCja2-InME

[jaymo76]

CLW are you the only one (from TGT) who subscribes to Playstation Now?

[steelerfan]

CLW are you the only one who subscribes to Playstation Now?

Fixed, for clarity.

:D

[CLW]

CLW are you the only one (from TGT) who subscribes to Playstation Now?

As far as I know - yes.

IMHO its worth the $15/mo to be able to play a ton of PS3 games on my PS4 at anytime. There are lots of good games too (especially if you didn't own a PS3) - UC1 - 3; GOW 3; etc.... and some "silly" games that are just fun to mess around with a bit and yes some sports games - 2K14

[JBHuskers]

Fixed, for clarity.

:D

http://media.giphy.com/media/13cXHBqGdocB1K/giphy.gif

[CLW]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UgroF_aAq4

[Rudy]

I think $5 a month would make me consider it. $15 is a very easy no.

[souljahbill]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UgroF_aAq4

Needs AC: Rogue. If you like Black Flag, you like Rouge.

[CLW]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vvZsoOsSIE

[CLW]

found a fun little title on this yesterday F1 Race Stars which is basically mario kart with f1 drivers

[bdoughty]

I finally get to try this thing. The original Borderlands has just been added! Only played it for a short time so it will be nice to actually play/finish to understand all the reference back to it.

Edit: Does not include DLC/Adds-on's = pass

[CLW]

PS Now: 12-Month Subscription for $99.99, 9 New Games from WB

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2015/12/05/ps-now-12-month-subscription-for-99-99-9-new-games-from-wb/

That's $8.33/mo - yep I'll be upping for a year.

[CLW]

40+ new games added $99.99/year sale ends Monday.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2016/01/05/40-ps3-exclusives-added-to-ps-now-subscription-today/

[CLW]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJkyf3-2HJE

[CLW]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWeoMC3flt0

[CLW]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPceEI0Q0W8

Also the $99.99/year option is back.

[bdoughty]

The hate for the PS Now service is still going strong.

http://i.imgur.com/SJlfoyK.png

[CLW]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVxUinXMINs

[Rudy]

I am stunned that we don't have a video game rental service. For digital rents it would seem to make a lot of sense. I'd much rather pay for a new and specific game I want to try. That's why EA Access is what intrigues me the most - for $5 a month you can pay that when Madden comes out and get 10 hours to check out a game to see if you like it.

[CLW]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILNC1woL844

[CLW]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_swP68uni8A