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Following the cancellation of a college sports title from EA SPORTS for 2014 - and likely indefinitely - there has been no shortage of news, albeit expected or bizarre. Here is a quick rundown of what has transpired since then:
- Kotaku: The NCAA Football development team was 'blindsided' by this news and were hard at work on College Football 15 when the cancellation came down (http://kotaku.com/a-blindside-hit-takes-down-an-ncaa-football-team-rallyi-1429336606). Some NCAA staffers were moved to Madden, while others (from NCAA & Madden) were let go.
- The lawyers for the plaintiffs never intended for EA to quit making NCAA Football games (http://www.polygon.com/2013/10/5/4803216/ea-sports-ncaa-football-cancellation-lawyers-never-intended). Terms of the settlement did NOT include any language preventing EA from publishing the game or future name, image, or likeness usage. The Lanier Law Firm did announce that (http://www.joystiq.com/2013/09/26/ea-sports-cancels-2014-college-football-game-is-evaluating-seri/#continued) "based on this settlement and other recent court rulings, EA Sports has agreed to change the way it develops future games featuring NCAA athletes in order to protect the rights to their likenesses."
- Friday night, TGT's cdj joined pastapadre & Rich Grisham on the Press Row Hangout (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ab6HFrpOTZk) to discuss the cancellation of NCAA Football.
- Despite the cancellation, EA SPORTS has continued to be active on the NCAA Football Twitter (https://twitter.com/EANCAAFootball) & Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/easportsncaafootball?ref=br_tf) accounts. The company has even begun to market the cancellation, telling customers to "Get It Before It's Gone" via their official product webpage and dynamic banner images in various EA SPORTS titles, including Tiger Woods PGA TOUR.
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- Following the settlement, one of the litigants (Ryan Hart, Rutgers) ceased communication with the legal team and retained new counsel (http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2013/10/05/ea-lawsuit-settlement-ed-obannon-sam-keller-ryan-hart-ncaa/2927439/). However, there is concern that some of his requests "would be contrary to law and would breach (their) fiduciary duties to the class as a whole." In the Friday night filing, the legal team stated that Hart "has chosen not to communicate" with them. Instead, they wrote, Hart "has communicated information … through his father-in-law indicating that Hart's narrow personal interests now conflict with the absent class members and that he no longer adequately represents the class as a whole."
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baseballplyrmvp
10-06-2013, 01:10 PM
such a shame that the game will no longer be made. its too bad that they immediately pulled the plug and didnt offer one last update as a farewell present.
JBHuskers
10-06-2013, 02:07 PM
such a shame that the game will no longer be made. its too bad that they immediately pulled the plug and didnt offer one last update as a farewell present.
- The lawyers for the plaintiffs never intended for EA to quit making NCAA Football games. Terms of the settlement did NOT include any language preventing EA from publishing the game or future name, image, or likeness usage. The Lanier Law Firm did announce that "based on this settlement and other recent court rulings, EA Sports has agreed to change the way it develops future games featuring NCAA athletes in order to protect the rights to their likenesses."
SmoothPancakes
10-06-2013, 02:13 PM
Yeah, EA agreed to change the way alright. They changed the way by completely scrapping their last and final game series involving college athletes (first NCAA Basketball in 2010 and now NCAA Football).
- The lawyers for the plaintiffs never intended for EA to quit making NCAA Football games. Terms of the settlement did NOT include any language preventing EA from publishing the game or future name, image, or likeness usage. The Lanier Law Firm did announce that "based on this settlement and other recent court rulings, EA Sports has agreed to change the way it develops future games featuring NCAA athletes in order to protect the rights to their likenesses."
Thats CLASSIC liberal BS spin from the Plaintiffs lawyers. No way in hell would/could a company continue to make a game if it settles and or loses a lawsuit like that.
souljahbill
10-06-2013, 06:02 PM
Thats CLASSIC liberal BS spin from the Plaintiffs lawyers. No way in hell would/could a company continue to make a game if it settles and or loses a lawsuit like that.
Differentiate between liberal spin and conservative spin in regards to this subject, please.
Differentiate between liberal spin and conservative spin in regards to this subject, please.
Plaintiffs lawyers are almost always liberals and they ALWAYS claim their lawsuits have no impact on business but real life results indicate otherwise (see EA no longer making NCAA and laying off X number of employees)
baseballplyrmvp
10-06-2013, 06:32 PM
Plaintiffs lawyers are almost always liberals and they ALWAYS claim their lawsuits have no impact on business but real life results indicate otherwise (see EA no longer making NCAA and laying off X number of employees)
and loses millions in video game sales
bdoughty
10-06-2013, 06:52 PM
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steelerfan
10-06-2013, 07:07 PM
:D:D:D:D:D
oweb26
10-06-2013, 07:33 PM
Thats CLASSIC liberal BS spin from the Plaintiffs lawyers. No way in hell would/could a company continue to make a game if it settles and or loses a lawsuit like that.
:bang::deadhorse:
Deuce
10-06-2013, 07:34 PM
http://i.imgur.com/8XMyETs.jpg
Awesome. :D
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Former Rutgers quarterback Ryan Hart was "completely uninformed" about negotiations that led to the proposed settlement of his and several other cases against video game manufacturer Electronic Arts concerning the use of college athletes' names likenesses, new lawyers for Hart said in court documents filed Monday.
"Therefore," the lawyers wrote, "no informed consent was given by any plaintiff to reach a settlement."
The filing, in U.S. District Court in New Jersey, was made in opposition to an effort to have Hart replaced as the named plaintiff in one of a set of lawsuits against EA. It gives no indication of whether Hart will object to the settlement. But it creates turbulence around the proposed deal, which would narrow the ongoing legal fight between a group of former and current college athletes and the NCAA.
Michael Hausfeld, who has been involved with a case against EA primarily on behalf of plaintiffs led by former UCLA basketball player Ed O'Bannon, has confirmed a report made first by The New York Times that EA and the nation's leading collegiate trademark licensing firm, Collegiate Licensing Co. (CLC), have agreed to pay $40 million under an arrangement that â?? if approved by various courts â?? will conclude Hart's case and two others against EA and would end both companies' role in a related case that will continue with the NCAA as the sole defendant.
In Monday's filing, Hart's new lawyers wrote: " â?¦ it must be clarified that Hart, both individually and as the proposed class representative in this action, takes no position with respect to the proposed settlement, until such time as he is able to review the factual material that lead [sic] up to the settlement â?¦ with his new counsel."
In the filing and in a signed statement by Hart himself, it is made clear that Hart hoped to have some role in settlement discussions and that he was unhappy to have first learned about the proposed deal by reading news reports about it.
Click here for the full article (http://www.pnj.com/usatoday/article/3147405).
bdoughty
10-23-2013, 02:10 AM
In the filing and in a signed statement by Hart himself, it is made clear that Hart hoped to have some role in settlement discussions and that he was unhappy to have first learned about the proposed deal by reading news reports about it.[/I]
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NCAA makes new effort to stop O'Bannon class action bid (http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2013/10/28/obannon-lawsuit-ncaa-name-likeness-class-action-certification/3291883/)
Lawyers representing the NCAA in an anti-trust lawsuit concerning the use of college athletes' names and likenesses on Monday filed documents describing new evidence that they argue is fatal to the plaintiffs' pending bid to have the case certified as a class action.
Currently the case involves former UCLA basketball star Ed O'Bannon and two dozen other current and former college football and men's basketball players taking on the NCAA. However, if U.S. District Judge Claudia Wilken grants class-action status, it could allow thousands of former and current football and men's basketball players to join the case, creating the possibility of a damages award in the billions of dollars.
First, though, Wilken must determine that the case meets criteria that are set under the federal rules of civil legal procedure. The criteria basically require that there be questions of law or fact that are common to the prospective wider class of plaintiffs and that those questions are greater in number than any questions that affect individual members of the prospective wider class.
Although it would seem that the NCAA's rules about what athletes can receive for playing sports create an overriding common question, two of the named plaintiffs – former Connecticut basketball player Tate George and former Alabama football player Tyrone Prothro – said in depositions much earlier in the case that star players should be paid more than lesser players. That creates individual questions.
The plaintiffs countered with an expert who said that if the NCAA's restrictions on compensation for athletes were removed, the newly available pool of money from television rights and other licensing fees would be shared equally among all the athletes.
In Monday's filing, lawyers for the NCAA said new reports and recent depositions from another of the plaintiffs' experts show that if the NCAA's restrictions on compensation for athletes were removed, "only some – not all – licensing revenue would (be) shared equally and that the lion's share of such revenue would have been paid entirely to 'star' student-athletes." This would "reduce the pool of damages available to most of the class, thereby giving rise to conflicting incentives."
As a result, the NCAA's lawyers wrote, the plaintiffs' proposed class "cannot be certified."
souljahbill
10-28-2013, 11:46 PM
What constitutes a star player?
NCAA makes new effort to stop O'Bannon class action bid (http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2013/10/28/obannon-lawsuit-ncaa-name-likeness-class-action-certification/3291883/)
Lawyers representing the NCAA in an anti-trust lawsuit concerning the use of college athletes' names and likenesses on Monday filed documents describing new evidence that they argue is fatal to the plaintiffs' pending bid to have the case certified as a class action.
Currently the case involves former UCLA basketball star Ed O'Bannon and two dozen other current and former college football and men's basketball players taking on the NCAA. However, if U.S. District Judge Claudia Wilken grants class-action status, it could allow thousands of former and current football and men's basketball players to join the case, creating the possibility of a damages award in the billions of dollars.
First, though, Wilken must determine that the case meets criteria that are set under the federal rules of civil legal procedure. The criteria basically require that there be questions of law or fact that are common to the prospective wider class of plaintiffs and that those questions are greater in number than any questions that affect individual members of the prospective wider class.
Although it would seem that the NCAA's rules about what athletes can receive for playing sports create an overriding common question, two of the named plaintiffs – former Connecticut basketball player Tate George and former Alabama football player Tyrone Prothro – said in depositions much earlier in the case that star players should be paid more than lesser players. That creates individual questions.
The plaintiffs countered with an expert who said that if the NCAA's restrictions on compensation for athletes were removed, the newly available pool of money from television rights and other licensing fees would be shared equally among all the athletes.
In Monday's filing, lawyers for the NCAA said new reports and recent depositions from another of the plaintiffs' experts show that if the NCAA's restrictions on compensation for athletes were removed, "only some – not all – licensing revenue would (be) shared equally and that the lion's share of such revenue would have been paid entirely to 'star' student-athletes." This would "reduce the pool of damages available to most of the class, thereby giving rise to conflicting incentives."
As a result, the NCAA's lawyers wrote, the plaintiffs' proposed class "cannot be certified."
This is basically an argument/fight over the class certification. NCAA is trying to make a similar argument that the SCOTUS agreed with in Dukes v. Walmart (basically there are too many individualized questions for it to be a class action).
They will lose this argument at the trial court and 9th circuit. Basically, its just setting it up for a potential SCOTUS review.
This is basically an argument/fight over the class certification. NCAA is trying to make a similar argument that the SCOTUS agreed with in Dukes v. Walmart (basically there are too many individualized questions for it to be a class action).
They will lose this argument at the trial court and 9th circuit. Basically, its just setting it up for a potential SCOTUS review.
You say SCOTUS, I hear scrotum lol.
JBHuskers
10-29-2013, 03:37 PM
You say SCOTUS, I hear scrotum lol.
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NCAA Lawsuit Settlement Cost EA $40 MillionEA's quarterly earnings report confirms how much the settlement amounted to.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/10/29/ncaa-lawsuit-settlement-cost-ea-40-million
SCClassof93
10-30-2013, 09:41 AM
You say SCOTUS, I hear scrotum lol.
This is a "you problem" :D
Judge grants class certification to challenge NCAA amateurism rules but doesn't grant class status to challenge use of likeness.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/2013/11/08/ncaa-class-action-lawsuit-obannon-amateurism/3479501/
Apparently EA ended the NCAA series and settled for NOTHING.
EA could always bring back the series for next gen but I'm assuming it might take awhile to finish the NCAA lawsuit. How long before they get that thing wrapped up? A year?
EA could always bring back the series for next gen but I'm assuming it might take awhile to finish the NCAA lawsuit. How long before they get that thing wrapped up? A year?
Nope. They settled and so if/when they bring it back they simply get sued again by the current players for another likeness lawsuit. EA has already shown it doesn't have the will to fight the lawsuit so they would have to settle again and again and again or go to trial.
The ONLY hope of a college series returning is: (1) NCAA allows players to be paid or; (2) NCAA collapses and/or Schools leave it and form new league where players can be paid for use in video games.
As far as the lawsuit the thing could languish for years. The NCAA could either appeal now on class certification or wait and see how it plays out to a jury and appeal at the end. Most defendants always appeal every chance they get (especially when they are facing a liberal/plaintiff friendly trial judge).
Federal Rules of Civil Procedure permit an appeal of the class action certification decision by the trial court but it is discretionary. 9th circuit is VERY liberal and very class action friendly and they know if they grant and the SCOTUS takes the case later its almost a guaranteed reversal (something like 80% of 9th circuit cases that are taken by SCOTUS are reversed)
Therefore my guess is: NCAA tries to appeal class certification now; 9th Circuit denies request; NCAA litigates all the way to trial (1-2 more years); NCAA appeals if loses all the way up to SCOTUS (1-2 years). I'd need to read the judge's opinion but the SCOTUS hasn't looked kindly on class actions recently and could reverse that decision.
If that happens it goes back down to the trial court and the thing starts all over again new with the named Plaintiffs (O'Bannon, Keller, etc...) and the individual Plaintiffs could also sue the NCAA in theory as well.
Now the NCAA is suing EA over their settlement.
http://www.polygon.com/2013/11/20/5127838/ncaa-sues-electronic-arts-over-settlements-with-student-athletes
SCClassof93
11-21-2013, 07:33 AM
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souljahbill
11-21-2013, 09:35 AM
:nod:
Analysis please.
Analysis please.
EA's going to be writing ANOTHER large check. Haven't seen the actual complaint but I suspect claims by the NCAA against EA for: (1) Breach of Contract; (2) Negligence; (3) Contribution; (4) Indemnification; etc....
I wouldn't be surprised if somewhere snuck in the NCAA/EA contract was a clause which basically says EA will protect NCAA from any all damages/lawsuit against it due to EA's actions. That's a pretty standard "feature" and its in lots of contracts.
IF that is in fact the case EA would be on the hook for ALL of the NCAA's attorneys fees in the litigation + any/all damages awards Keller et al. receive.
Basically the NCAA is PISSED EA "sold out" with a settlement so they are going to make them pay more to buy their peace.
GatorfanStovy
11-22-2013, 11:27 PM
Good for NCAA kick Ea in the butt for not let any one else make a college football game...
SmoothPancakes
11-22-2013, 11:54 PM
:fp:
Good for NCAA kick Ea in the butt for not let any one else make a college football game...
2K stopped making football games because they weren't making money. Unlike the NFL there was no exclusive to cause that. Is it EA's fault that 2K quit making college basketball too? It's all about the money in this case or the lack of it.
SmoothPancakes
11-23-2013, 05:24 AM
2K stopped making football games because they weren't making money. Unlike the NFL there was no exclusive to cause that. Is it EA's fault that 2K quit making college basketball too? It's all about the money in this case or the lack of it.
Yep, just look at college basketball. We had College Hoops (2K) and NCAA Basketball (EA). 2K bailed out after CH2K8, EA eventually bailed out after NCAA Basketball 10. With NCAA Football dead in the water and Madden no longer allowed to be an exclusive license for however long (or whatever the exact terms are), I don't see 2K bothering to lift a finger for those sports/licenses. Hell, 2K is dumping a lot of things. They dumped MLB 2K (which I will say it needed to happen). I can't say for sure, but I think NBA 2K is their only remaining sports franchise. Otherwise, they are moving 100% full focus towards original IPs to develop in the future.
souljahbill
11-23-2013, 11:11 AM
Yep, just look at college basketball. We had College Hoops (2K) and NCAA Basketball (EA). 2K bailed out after CH2K8, EA eventually bailed out after NCAA Basketball 10. With NCAA Football dead in the water and Madden no longer allowed to be an exclusive license for however long (or whatever the exact terms are), I don't see 2K bothering to lift a finger for those sports/licenses. Hell, 2K is dumping a lot of things. They dumped MLB 2K (which I will say it needed to happen). I can't say for sure, but I think NBA 2K is their only remaining sports franchise. Otherwise, they are moving 100% full focus towards original IPs to develop in the future.
They have the WWE now.
SmoothPancakes
11-23-2013, 11:49 AM
They have the WWE now.
Ah, that's right. But overall, they have shrunk their sports offerings. NFL 2K, NHL 2K, MLB 2K, College Hoops 2K, all gone. No one is going to touch college football with a 10 foot pole in the near future with all this lawsuit shit. College basketball, they were already doing it and walked away. If anyone else was going to do it, they've had 3-4 years to do so. It's pretty much the same as college football, no one is going to touch with a 10 foot pole due to the lawsuit issues..
souljahbill
11-23-2013, 12:03 PM
Man, I'd buy a next-gen system next summer if there was a new NCAA game for it. So disappointing. Man, do I wish EA had just went with the super generic rosters from the beginning.
SmoothPancakes
11-23-2013, 12:14 PM
Man, I'd buy a next-gen system next summer if there was a new NCAA game for it. So disappointing. Man, do I wish EA had just went with the super generic rosters from the beginning.
Yeah, I would have loved to see what EA could do on these systems. My brief couple hours with Forza 5 and Dead Rising 3 on the Xbox One yesterday, a PS4/Xbox One NCAA Football would have been amazing. They could have started from the ground up on gameplay so they could have actually eliminated some of those goddamn legacy issues and gotten things corrected to how they should be. And if they had given the crowds and stadiums an overhaul, sweet Jesus, just imagining how great the stadiums and crowds could have looked with a next-gen NCAA.
Man, I'd buy a next-gen system next summer if there was a new NCAA game for it. So disappointing. Man, do I wish EA had just went with the super generic rosters from the beginning.
That' same tough thing to say in hindsight though. The EA devs have always felt the sales were hurt by a lack of authentic rosters so they wanted them as accurate possible. I think they could have done so much more to help us with the rosters. Have a roster vault with ratings and search engines. Release generic rosters BUT have a PC editor to allow easy player edits. Imagine if a roster was a simple database where you could make mass edits through merging or code? I know Adam Thompson floated the idea of a PC editor a few years ago but it never happened.
souljahbill
11-23-2013, 01:13 PM
That' same tough thing to say in hindsight though. The EA devs have always felt the sales were hurt by a lack of authentic rosters so they wanted them as accurate possible. I think they could have done so much more to help us with the rosters. Have a roster vault with ratings and search engines. Release generic rosters BUT have a PC editor to allow easy player edits. Imagine if a roster was a simple database where you could make mass edits through merging or code? I know Adam Thompson floated the idea of a PC editor a few years ago but it never happened.
If I played online, I may see things differently but when I play NCAA, I'm playing because I like the school, not necessarily the players. Because of the high roster turnover, I don't get attached to players. I definitely appreciate them but I love playing as the school far more than repping some player.
jaymo76
11-23-2013, 01:17 PM
Yeah, I would have loved to see what EA could do on these systems. My brief couple hours with Forza 5 and Dead Rising 3 on the Xbox One yesterday, a PS4/Xbox One NCAA Football would have been amazing. They could have started from the ground up on gameplay so they could have actually eliminated some of those goddamn legacy issues and gotten things corrected to how they should be. And if they had given the crowds and stadiums an overhaul, sweet Jesus, just imagining how great the stadiums and crowds could have looked with a next-gen NCAA.
Man, I'd buy a next-gen system next summer if there was a new NCAA game for it. So disappointing. Man, do I wish EA had just went with the super generic rosters from the beginning.
That' same tough thing to say in hindsight though. The EA devs have always felt the sales were hurt by a lack of authentic rosters so they wanted them as accurate possible. I think they could have done so much more to help us with the rosters. Have a roster vault with ratings and search engines. Release generic rosters BUT have a PC editor to allow easy player edits. Imagine if a roster was a simple database where you could make mass edits through merging or code? I know Adam Thompson floated the idea of a PC editor a few years ago but it never happened.
I absolutely LOVE the ps4 experience. Last night I was imagining watching all you guys stream to twitch and all of us having running commentary about it. It would have been a blast. Count me in as a person who would have been 100% okay with generic rosters. I play a lot of seasons anyways so the rosters will be 100% false within 4-5 seasons. To me this has never been an issue. This NCAA 14 I didn't even wait for rosters I just started playing... it didn't impact me in the least.
Stan HAMsen
11-23-2013, 02:45 PM
I definitely appreciate them but I love playing as the school far more than repping some player.
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SmoothPancakes
11-24-2013, 05:54 AM
If I played online, I may see things differently but when I play NCAA, I'm playing because I like the school, not necessarily the players. Because of the high roster turnover, I don't get attached to players. I definitely appreciate them but I love playing as the school far more than repping some player.
I absolutely LOVE the ps4 experience. Last night I was imagining watching all you guys stream to twitch and all of us having running commentary about it. It would have been a blast. Count me in as a person who would have been 100% okay with generic rosters. I play a lot of seasons anyways so the rosters will be 100% false within 4-5 seasons. To me this has never been an issue. This NCAA 14 I didn't even wait for rosters I just started playing... it didn't impact me in the least.
Agreed completely. I essentially already play with generic rosters in my ongoing coaching carousel dynasty, since I'm just simply renaming all of the players in the entire NCAA rosters file, so there is nothing there that is an issue for me. In my dynasty, I'm in season 2021, so it's nothing but fake players for the remainder of my dynasty. Sure, I get attached to my players, but they're all fake, game-generated players. It's a team as a whole that keeps me going.
JBHuskers
11-25-2013, 10:32 AM
Yep, just look at college basketball. We had College Hoops (2K) and NCAA Basketball (EA). 2K bailed out after CH2K8, EA eventually bailed out after NCAA Basketball 10. With NCAA Football dead in the water and Madden no longer allowed to be an exclusive license for however long (or whatever the exact terms are), I don't see 2K bothering to lift a finger for those sports/licenses. Hell, 2K is dumping a lot of things. They dumped MLB 2K (which I will say it needed to happen). I can't say for sure, but I think NBA 2K is their only remaining sports franchise. Otherwise, they are moving 100% full focus towards original IPs to develop in the future.
There are some rumblings that they might be dabbling in golf.
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SmoothPancakes
11-25-2013, 11:09 AM
There are some rumblings that they might be dabbling in golf.
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Really? Interesting.
JBHuskers
11-25-2013, 11:12 AM
Really? Interesting.
Might be Links related too. Just rumor at this point.
gigemaggs99
11-25-2013, 05:39 PM
Might be Links related too. Just rumor at this point.
That would be sweet, Links was a great game on the PC.
Maybe it's hard to create a golf game as the audience isn't that big. I enjoy playing golf in real life, I'm no pro, best score this year is a 75, normally in the low-mid 80s holding a 10.7-11 handicap. I enjoy playing TW on simulation, makes it seem more realistic. I'm fine with shooting even par or worse, playing on the easy setting and shooting -26 under through 18 holes is a bit much for me. But I can see where they need to market the game that way to keep people playing...I enjoyed the fishing games on Sega Genesis, but I wouldn't have enjoyed them near as much if they were like real life fishing, sometimes I go out and catch fish, other days I sit there and wonder what I'm doing wrong. You could always catch multiple fish on the video game.
I'd like to see a golf game that put more into the courses, graphics, true golf stuff, the spin after the fact, putting preview, all those make-believe things in my opinion could be removed for game space or development of more real life golf stuff. I.e. if there is just a wind sock, no meter telling you how hard the wind is actually moving it would be cool if you could reach down and throw grass clippings, maybe even no wind sock, if you just had to look around the course and read the trees or flags on nearby greens to get an idea of the wind, that would be cool!
When I play TW on simulation it's amazing how with no putting grid the putts don't break like crazy. When the putting grid is turned ON putts will break 3 feet or more, maybe they could do something for future games, put more detail into the greens so you could still have breaking putts without the green grid showing the break, but with the enhanced details be able to see the breaks.
I'd also like to see all the major manufactures be in the game. I don't know if it's b/c it's Nike vs Titleist or if Titleist just doesn't want their name used, but it would be cool to have Titleist equipment in the game, along with Nike, Odyssey, Callaway, Taylormade, etc...etc.. if Titleist is the number 1 ball in golf it would be cool if you could use them in the game. TW 11 shows Rory on the cover of the game wearing a Titleist hat, a footjoy glove and a Titleist Vokey wedge I assume he's hitting a Titleist golf ball but none of those brands are in the game to use with your golfer.
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Can't wait to see what they come out with for the PS4 and Xbox one. I'm leaning towards a PS4 but I think I'm going to wait until they have more sports games out. I've read reviews on both Madden and Fifa for PS4, they sound great but they don't sound 1000 times better than PS3, maybe in a few more years there will a big difference. Those screen shots that were posted of EA's golf game for PS4/Xbox1 look really good, I can see buying a PS4 for that, maybe by that time someone else will be making a college football game....maybe...but if not Madden will probably be strides better than the same game for PS3.
jaymo76
11-26-2013, 12:51 AM
Agreed completely. I essentially already play with generic rosters in my ongoing coaching carousel dynasty, since I'm just simply renaming all of the players in the entire NCAA rosters file, so there is nothing there that is an issue for me. In my dynasty, I'm in season 2021, so it's nothing but fake players for the remainder of my dynasty. Sure, I get attached to my players, but they're all fake, game-generated players. It's a team as a whole that keeps me going.
Would be nice to dream though. Imagine seeing a Choops game again? Man that would be sweet.
psusnoop
11-27-2013, 09:10 PM
Would be nice to dream though. Imagine seeing a Choops game again? Man that would be sweet.
Man just reading these last few posts and the thought of NCAA football or hoops would be so much fun! I wish they were always generic from the start, son of a gun!!
NCAA holds firm: No pay for play
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/10119750/ncaa-president-mark-emmert-insists-pay-play-model-coming
Well that leaves two options: (1) NCAA Collapses and new organization allows it OR (2) Big Boys leave NCAA and form new Pay For Play Conference permitting college sports to return to video games should a publisher decide it is worth it.
souljahbill
12-11-2013, 01:53 PM
NCAA holds firm: No pay for play
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/10119750/ncaa-president-mark-emmert-insists-pay-play-model-coming
Well that leaves two options: (1) NCAA Collapses and new organization allows it OR (2) Big Boys leave NCAA and form new Pay For Play Conference permitting college sports to return to video games should a publisher decide it is worth it.
You know schools don't wanna pay so option B is out.
You know schools don't wanna pay so option B is out.
Actually I think SOME schools would love to just get it out in the open and pay the players the same amount or more than they are already giving their top athletes.
souljahbill
12-11-2013, 04:58 PM
Actually I think SOME schools would love to just get it out in the open and pay the players the same amount or more than they are already giving their top athletes.
The Big 10 has already said that if they have to start paying that they're dropping levels. Who in their right mind is gonna start paying kids?
Stan HAMsen
12-11-2013, 06:32 PM
Actually I think SOME schools would love to just get it out in the open and pay the players the same amount or more than they are already giving their top athletes.
If you get it out in the open, Title IX will come into play.
If you get it out in the open, Title IX will come into play.
Shhhhhh the pay the athletes crowd doesn't know that. I cannot wait until that lawsuit happens. :nod:
The NCAA is getting killed in court today. Read SI's Stewart Mandel's tweets. Good stuff.
https://twitter.com/slmandel
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lol no shocker they are in Federal Court in San Fransico. The jury pool will only be slightly better. NCAA's only hope is SCOTUS as the 9th Circuit isn't any different. I love how the media pretends to be surprised that a FAR-LEFT judge on the bench wants players to get paid and wants to stick it to the evil rich man (NCAA). The "journalism" in this country is an absolute joke. I've said it from day one NCAA (and when EA was in the lawsuit EA) would have to go all the way up to win. If only we could just save the time and ask SCOTUS if they want the case now or not.
Alas, formalities in law must be followed so the media can act like this judge is some middle of the rode and blind jurist faithfully following the law.
SHOCKER OF THE CENTURY! liberal judge permits lawsuit against The Man to go to trial. /sarcasm
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/10494008/ed-obannon-class-action-antitrust-lawsuit-vs-ncaa-go-trial
souljahbill
02-27-2014, 02:34 PM
NCAA was gonna let players' names and numbers be in the game.
Link (http://deadspin.com/ncaa-debated-allowing-player-names-in-video-games-1532471385?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitte r&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow)
TIMB0B
04-14-2014, 04:34 PM
What will the impact of player unions have on the future of the game?
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What will the impact of player unions have on the future of the game?
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None necessarily. The NCAA has to either: (1) cease to exist; or (2) cave on the issue of players getting paid for the use of their "likeness" in the game.
If (and ONLY if) 1 or 2 happens then a national Union (assuming it gets that large) could negotiate the price EA/Another Company would have to pay to use the players' "likeness" in the game (just like the NFLPA etc...).
souljahbill
04-14-2014, 05:02 PM
Man, I wish the players were always generic in terms of appearance from the beginning. I want a new game.
How do the college football players pay union dues? Who would represent them?
How do the college football players pay union dues? Who would represent them?
That's the big question I pose in the union thread in the college sports section. Only a moron would vote to pay someone for a "job" that they are not paid $ for. They would be represented most likely by the morons currently trying to organize them.
thatBuckeye
04-15-2014, 06:54 PM
How do the college football players pay union dues? Who would represent them?
There won't be a union. They won the right to attempt to unionize which means they will be recognized as employees rather than student athletes. That was the whole goal.... the NCAA got the "amateur" status by saying they were student athletes therefore they could not reap the rewards/benefits from their likeness or be entitled to the money the colleges make off of them.
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Reading that union vote resulted in no union. One tweet said it was 4-1 in favour of no union.
Reading that union vote resulted in no union. One tweet said it was 4-1 in favour of no union.
LMAO the union will now file suit against the NCAA and Northwestern and argue they intimidated the players in violation of labor law. Book it. Another lawsuit is coming.
It was wierd that this union movement was started at Northwestern where the players are treated well. That's what the current captain said and it's why the union vote failed there. I don't see any lawsuit coming on their behalf. If a union wants to make this happen they are far better off finding a Div I school where players are having their schollies cut and treated poorly.
It was wierd that this union movement was started at Northwestern where the players are treated well. That's what the current captain said and it's why the union vote failed there. I don't see any lawsuit coming on their behalf. If a union wants to make this happen they are far better off finding a Div I school where players are having their schollies cut and treated poorly.
The lawsuit will be filed and it will be filed by the union v. northwestern. The union will argue basically that the university "brain washed" the players and/or intimidating them against voting in favor of the union. I mean b/c no one could logically determine on their own that they would want to pay for representation for an unpaid "job".
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