Why do you guys complain about Defense?

[dhook27]

I dont know why you guys do. IRL Ncaa we dont get 17-14, 10-3, 7-6 type games anymore unless its Alabama and LSU playing against each other lol to me it is pretty realistic the only thing to me unrealistic about it is the Completion % is way to high sometimes but other than that its good. Oh and there is a good slider set that plays a good game of football for you guys that want those type of games more often http://www.operationsports.com/forums/ncaa-football-sliders/641608-ncaa-14-os-community-playmakers-split-sliders.html

[bdoughty]

Link is broken.

You are just regurgitating what I said when the game first came out. As far as "simulating the game" spread options kicking ass, high scores, it is fairly dead on. The execution to get that, not so much. I am in the boat that there needs to be more balance and making if fun to play on both side of the ball. This is a video game after all.

[dhook27]

Link is broken.

You are just regurgitating what I said when the game first came out. As far as "simulating the game" spread options kicking ass, high scores, it is fairly dead on. The execution to get that, not so much. I am in the boat that there needs to be more balance and making if fun to play on both side of the ball. This is a video game after all.
Fixed it and totally agree

[ram29jackson]

3rd and long and 4th downs should be much harder than then they are still. And when I call 3 and 4 deep blue zones because I know exactly whats coming and get beat over the top constantly like my players have no clue whats happening because the AI dictates their reaction and ignores the play call I gave them. I refuse to be amused by that when playing greedy ,childish, strangers who are succeeding only because the game/AI lets them and not because they picked a smart play. I am sick of seeing defenders do nothing when they are right there to make a play. I am sick of thread the needle passes on every single fucking throw.

and besides..everything from on the field to off the field was/is broken and poorly done anyway this year. Its as though they just threw the crap together in a hurry

[dhook27]

its called sliders uses them:fp::down::ram?::ram?:

[ram29jackson]

its called sliders uses them:fp::down::ram?::ram?:

child,.. I am talking about playing online default obviously

[dhook27]

Lol dont know why i even responded of course online you are gonig to getvpeople who just throw up 4 verts this is for offline dynsty guys and what would you know? All you play is online rank so your opinion is invalid lol

[dhook27]

Speaking of defense right now my Bucks already put up 31 before half against Cal and who can forget the 42-49 game between :Texas_A&M::Alabama:

[steelerfan]

3rd and long and 4th downs should be much harder than then they are still. And when I call 3 and 4 deep blue zones because I know exactly whats coming and get beat over the top constantly like my players have no clue whats happening because the AI dictates their reaction and ignores the play call I gave them. I refuse to be amused by that when playing greedy ,childish, strangers who are succeeding only because the game/AI lets them and not because they picked a smart play. I am sick of seeing defenders do nothing when they are right there to make a play. I am sick of thread the needle passes on every single fucking throw.

and besides..everything from on the field to off the field was/is broken and poorly done anyway this year. Its as though they just threw the crap together in a hurry

I don't have the game, this is a question. Does it help if you guess pass (L2 and up on Right Stick)?

I'm using Tapatalk 2 and the Cleveland Browns STILL suck.

[ram29jackson]

I don't have the game, this is a question. Does it help if you guess pass (L2 and up on Right Stick)?

I'm using Tapatalk 2 and the Cleveland Browns STILL suck.

LOL I honestly don't think so. Its just one big crappy placebo now. Ive done as you suggested along with using conservative zones and it appears ineffective for the most part.

[CLW]

I dont know why you guys do. IRL Ncaa we dont get 17-14, 10-3, 7-6 type games anymore unless its Alabama and LSU playing against each other lol to me it is pretty realistic the only thing to me unrealistic about it is the Completion % is way to high sometimes but other than that its good. Oh and there is a good slider set that plays a good game of football for you guys that want those type of games more often http://www.operationsports.com/forums/ncaa-football-sliders/641608-ncaa-14-os-community-playmakers-split-sliders.html

Tried those sliders and put up nearly 70 PPG so yeah not so much.

[SCClassof93]

Lol dont know why i even responded of course online you are gonig to getvpeople who just throw up 4 verts this is for offline dynsty guys and what would you know? All you play is online rank so your opinion is invalid lol

fyi, validity refers to the form of an argument, it has nothing to do with the truth or "opinions" . Your opinion may be different than his but "opinions" are neither valid or invalid.

[steelerfan]

"opinions" are neither valid or invalid.

Generally, this is true. However, it's ram so...

I'm using Tapatalk 2 and the Cleveland Browns STILL suck.

[ram29jackson]

Generally, this is true. However, it's ram so...

I'm using Tapatalk 2 and the Cleveland Browns STILL suck.

so .. committing to pass is still ineffective lol

[SmoothPancakes]

Speaking of defense right now my Bucks already put up 31 before half against Cal and who can forget the 42-49 game between :Texas_A&M::Alabama:

Alright, two can play that game. Looking at finals first, Iowa 27-21 over Iowa State, Buffalo 26-23 in 5 OTs over Stony Brook, Rutgers 28-10 over Eastern Michigan, LA-Monroe 21-19 over Wake Forest, Arkansas 24-3 over Southern Miss, Michigan 28-24 over Akron, Minnesota 29-12 over Western Illinois, Louisville 27-13 over Kentucky, Virginia Tech 15-10 over East Carolina, Texas Tech 20-10 over TCU, Tulane 24-15 over Louisiana Tech.

Still playing, late 3rd quarter Rice leads Kansas 13-7, fourth quarter Western Kentucky leads South Alabama 24-21, third quarter Purdue leads Notre Dame by a whopping 10-3, late fourth quarter FAU leads South Florida 21-10, late fourth quarter Memphis leads MTSU 15-14, mid fourth quarter Mississippi State leads Auburn 20-17, mid fourth quarter Toledo leads Eastern Washington 23-21.

Edit: Oh yeah, lets just look at scores in the 30s. Bethune-Cookman beat FIU 34-13, halftime score was 14-7. Iowa's halftime score, 13-0. Washington beat Illinois 34-24, halftime was 10-3. That Buffalo-Stony Brook game? 3-0 at halftime. Navy's 51-7 win over Delaware? Only 23-7 at halftime. Florida State's 62-7 thumping of Nevada? 17-7 at half. USC's 35-7 win over Boston College? 14-0 at half. The Rutgers-EMU game? 14-10 at half. Louisiana-Monroe-Wake Forest was only 14-13 at half. Arkansas only lead Southern Miss 10-3 at half. Even UCLA-Nebraska, a 41-21 final, was 21-10 at half. Michigan led Akron 7-3 at half. Minnesota had a 7-6 halftime lead. Louisville's halftime lead? 10-3. West Virginia only held a 17-0 halftime lead (would win 41-7 over Georgia State). Virginia Tech-ECU was 7-7 at halftime. Texas Tech only led 10-0 at halftime. Louisiana Tech had a 9-7 halftime lead.

So sure, mention all the games where teams scored 50+ to win. I can mention just as many games where teams won with 29 points or less. Good luck winning a game in NCAA 14 with only 15 points (like Virginia Tech), or only 20 points (like Texas Tech). Good luck averaging scores through the season of only mid-20s for the winning score. And good luck getting to halftime with scores not already in the 20s.

The issue with the defense in the game is there is no defense. Ever game inevitably ends up in a shootout, where the team with the ball last is the winner. No amount of sliders in hell is going to fix that. Zone defense is non-existent and man defense can be picked apart at will. I'm not saying every game has to end 7-0. But neither does every game have to end 56-49. Right now, I know I'm really not going to be challenged on offense unless my dumbfuck receivers drop easy passes. And on defense, no matter what defense I call, I know the CPU is going to complete some bullshit pass or break some bullshit run (breaking at least three or four tackles along the way) to a massive gain or a long touchdown. It's to the point where I'm ready to skip defense altogether as head coach and just go back to super simming it like I did when I was an OC in my dynasty.

[morsdraconis]

No lie, I GUARANTEE you that you can put it with any sliders that you think make the game hard on any difficulty, give me the worst team in the game against the best team in the game and I can still throw for 6 TDs and 700 yards passing.

Run one 5WR play against the CPU and you see how utterly ATROCIOUS their playcalling, logic, EVERYTHING is to someone with half a brain for reading defenses. And I haven't even touched a NCAA game in 3 years and I guarantee I can STILL do it. I won't even change the fuckin' play, I'll just hot route 3 different routes to 3 different receivers each time and the CPU will NEVER stop me and it's absolutely nothing that anyone with half a brain couldn't do as well and it's nothing that a normal high school football coach couldn't teach someone to do in one spring football practice session. THAT'S how bad the defense is in this game and has been for 4 years now.

[jello1717]

I don't understand how you guys are able to score 70 points at will against the CPU unless you constantly call money plays or something like that. Before I get into my experience I'd like to preface things by saying that I'd like to think I'm at least decent at the game. I've played in one of the premiere ODs over on TSO for 4 years now and I've had tremendous success, both overall and in user games. In '13 I started with 3* SMU (in a 6 user Big XII alongside a 6 user ACC) and won the most NCAA titles (5) in our 12 seasons. Sadly, I only lost 1 out of 97 CPU games in '13's OD and I hated how much of a pushover the CPU was. Here's how I did in my '13 OD:
http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt214/jello1717/Illinois%20OD/13ODrecords_zpsc1293633.png

In '14 we're in a 12 user B1G and I started with 3* Illinois which was the worst OVR user team (only CPU Minnesota was worse). In the 1st 2 seasons I won the B1G title both times and here's my record:
http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt214/jello1717/Illinois%20OD/14ODrecords_zps89f231d9.png

(BTW I've already lost 3 CPU games in 2 seasons in this OD which is 3 times more than I lost in nearly 100 of '13)

In (not so) short, I'd like to think I'm decent at NCAA '14. I run a no huddle spread option attack as my offense and 3-4 as my defense. Since the OD is so young I'll talk about my offline where I just finished season 7. I'm using Michigan which has been a 99/99/99 team for probably each of the last 5 seasons. I'm always the better team for every game.

I play with 7 minute quarters. The most points I've ever scored was 58 and I've only topped 50 points 5 times in 96 games (keep in mind I run a no huddle). Here are my AVG PPG - AVG PAPG for each of my seasons so far:

2013: 34.0 - 20.9
2014: 28.6 - 20.6
2015: 31.4 - 25.4
2016: 36.6 - 21.2
2017: 33.0 - 13.1
2018: 36.8 - 19.5
2019: 36.4 - 16.8

Damn averaging 70 PPG, I've never even come that close to averaging 40 PPG. My best PPG seasons wouldn't have even been in the top 20 of real life FBS football last season.

For individual stats, I use a really low (5) QBA slider and this does a decent job of lowering my completion %. In my OD my QBs are vastly inferior to my offline's QBs, yet my 2 starting QBs have completed 78% and 76% of their career passes (higher QBA slider for my 6 CPU games and default slider for my 8 USER games) but in my offline (with vastly superior QBs and WRs) I generally complete mid 60s % of my passes.
http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt214/jello1717/Illinois%20OD/qbpassing_zpsfd6116ea.png

It can get frustrating because most of the incompletions aren't because my QB just missed his receiver but instead because he missed him by 5-10 yards. However I greatly prefer having a bunch of 10 yard misses (a fair # of which hit defenders instead) rather than completing nearly 80% of my passes.

People also talk about how broken the read option is and how it's a guaranteed 10 yards if you QB keeps it and I definitely don't see that. I always have a stable of very athletic QBs and I call a lot of options (and of course the CPU crashes on the HB the vast majority of the time) but I see WAAAAAAAAAAY more 0-2 yard gains by my QB than I do 10+ yard gains. This might be a playbook difference because, even though I have about 85 options in my 370+ play CPB, I don't have many vanilla read options (I think it's only 5). Most of my "read options" have either a pulling TE for the QB or pulling lineman(s) for the HB and I'd guess that the latter is less effective for QB keepers (which, again, I'd greatly prefer to getting 10+ every time).
Here's what my QB rushing looks like:
http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt214/jello1717/Illinois%20OD/qbrushing_zps562e3723.png

I'm not sure what it is you guys are doing to be unstoppable on offense (I don't punt a realistic # of times, but I'd bet that my punters' average of 28.2 punts per season is probably a lot higher than yours which is, again, a good thing) but I'm glad that I'm not unstoppable on O.

[dhook27]

I don't understand how you guys are able to score 70 points at will against the CPU unless you constantly call money plays or something like that. Before I get into my experience I'd like to preface things by saying that I'd like to think I'm at least decent at the game. I've played in one of the premiere ODs over on TSO for 4 years now and I've had tremendous success, both overall and in user games. In '13 I started with 3* SMU (in a 6 user Big XII alongside a 6 user ACC) and won the most NCAA titles (5) in our 12 seasons. Sadly, I only lost 1 out of 97 CPU games in '13's OD and I hated how much of a pushover the CPU was. Here's how I did in my '13 OD:
http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt214/jello1717/Illinois%20OD/13ODrecords_zpsc1293633.png

In '14 we're in a 12 user B1G and I started with 3* Illinois which was the worst OVR user team (only CPU Minnesota was worse). In the 1st 2 seasons I won the B1G title both times and here's my record:
http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt214/jello1717/Illinois%20OD/14ODrecords_zps89f231d9.png

(BTW I've already lost 3 CPU games in 2 seasons in this OD which is 3 times more than I lost in nearly 100 of '13)

In (not so) short, I'd like to think I'm decent at NCAA '14. I run a no huddle spread option attack as my offense and 3-4 as my defense. Since the OD is so young I'll talk about my offline where I just finished season 7. I'm using Michigan which has been a 99/99/99 team for probably each of the last 5 seasons. I'm always the better team for every game.

I play with 7 minute quarters. The most points I've ever scored was 58 and I've only topped 50 points 5 times in 96 games (keep in mind I run a no huddle). Here are my AVG PPG - AVG PAPG for each of my seasons so far:

2013: 34.0 - 20.9
2014: 28.6 - 20.6
2015: 31.4 - 25.4
2016: 36.6 - 21.2
2017: 33.0 - 13.1
2018: 36.8 - 19.5
2019: 36.4 - 16.8

Damn averaging 70 PPG, I've never even come that close to averaging 40 PPG. My best PPG seasons wouldn't have even been in the top 20 of real life FBS football last season.

For individual stats, I use a really low (5) QBA slider and this does a decent job of lowering my completion %. In my OD my QBs are vastly inferior to my offline's QBs, yet my 2 starting QBs have completed 78% and 76% of their career passes (higher QBA slider for my 6 CPU games and default slider for my 8 USER games) but in my offline (with vastly superior QBs and WRs) I generally complete mid 60s % of my passes.
http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt214/jello1717/Illinois%20OD/qbpassing_zpsfd6116ea.png

It can get frustrating because most of the incompletions aren't because my QB just missed his receiver but instead because he missed him by 5-10 yards. However I greatly prefer having a bunch of 10 yard misses (a fair # of which hit defenders instead) rather than completing nearly 80% of my passes.

People also talk about how broken the read option is and how it's a guaranteed 10 yards if you QB keeps it and I definitely don't see that. I always have a stable of very athletic QBs and I call a lot of options (and of course the CPU crashes on the HB the vast majority of the time) but I see WAAAAAAAAAAY more 0-2 yard gains by my QB than I do 10+ yard gains. This might be a playbook difference because, even though I have about 85 options in my 370+ play CPB, I don't have many vanilla read options (I think it's only 5). Most of my "read options" have either a pulling TE for the QB or pulling lineman(s) for the HB and I'd guess that the latter is less effective for QB keepers (which, again, I'd greatly prefer to getting 10+ every time).
Here's what my QB rushing looks like:
http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt214/jello1717/Illinois%20OD/qbrushing_zps562e3723.png

I'm not sure what it is you guys are doing to be unstoppable on offense (I don't punt a realistic # of times, but I'd bet that my punters' average of 28.2 punts per season is probably a lot higher than yours which is, again, a good thing) but I'm glad that I'm not unstoppable on O.
People just like to overrate things so they have something to complain about thats all

[dhook27]

No lie, I GUARANTEE you that you can put it with any sliders that you think make the game hard on any difficulty, give me the worst team in the game against the best team in the game and I can still throw for 6 TDs and 700 yards passing.

Run one 5WR play against the CPU and you see how utterly ATROCIOUS their playcalling, logic, EVERYTHING is to someone with half a brain for reading defenses. And I haven't even touched a NCAA game in 3 years and I guarantee I can STILL do it. I won't even change the fuckin' play, I'll just hot route 3 different routes to 3 different receivers each time and the CPU will NEVER stop me and it's absolutely nothing that anyone with half a brain couldn't do as well and it's nothing that a normal high school football coach couldn't teach someone to do in one spring football practice session. THAT'S how bad the defense is in this game and has been for 4 years now.
Who the fuck averages 700 yars and 6 tds? Lol quit over exaggerating things

[SmoothPancakes]

People just like to overrate things so they have something to complain about thats all

How old are you again?

[SCClassof93]

How old are you again?

Not old enough to work and pay for his own games, thus understanding the nature of adult consumer complaints.

[morsdraconis]

Who the fuck averages 700 yars and 6 tds? Lol quit over exaggerating things

I'm not. It's easy as shit to do.

[CLW]

Who the fuck averages 700 yars and 6 tds? Lol quit over exaggerating things

I do/can. No money plays "Ask Corso" to stop me from calling my best plays.

[volsfan]

Listening to this is making me think about not getting 14 and maybe getting 13. Or just keep 12 and be done with it until I know that they will every put another college game out.

[dhook27]

Listening to this is making me think about not getting 14 and maybe getting 13. Or just keep 12 and be done with it until I know that they will every put another college game out.
Nah you should get it. They have a slider set at Os called "Unleash Infinity" which really gives you a good game of football

[SmoothPancakes]

Not old enough to work and pay for his own games, thus understanding the nature of adult consumer complaints.

:nod:

So, since you decided to ignore my counterargument to your using Alabama-A&M and Ohio State-Cal as reasoning why the defense in the game is fine and why it's fine to have every game end in the 40s and 50s, I'll go ahead and present a second argument for why we complain.

Because we have a right to. I can't remember your exact age, but I want to believe that it's, at most, in the mid-teens. So basically, it comes down to time and money. I've been playing this game since the 90s, probably since around the time your were born (maybe even before it). I've spent, by now, into the thousands, of my hard earned paychecks buying this game every year. I've invested thousands upon thousands of hours (maybe even tens of thousands, god only knows) in this series. I've earned my right to complain about this game.

I already earned my right to complain as a unsatisfied consumer the moment Amazon took the money out of my bank account before shipping me the game. But I have also earned my right to complain through the decade-plus, the thousand-plus dollars I've spent on this series, and the countless thousands of hours I've spent playing this game over all the years.

Now if I am right in my recollection, and you're still in your teens, you know, it's kind of cute. You remind me of me back when I was that age. Still innocent, head in the sand, thinking every game was perfect as is out of the box. I miss those days. In fact, all the way up through NCAA '12, I defended EA over most anything in the game. Yes, the games had their issues over the years, but they were still fun and playable, so all those who did nothing but bash, bash and bash some more, I defended EA each year. '13 had some issues that ruffled my feathers a bit, but I was able to overlook them and still have fun with the game and play it year round.

But '14 has been the straw that broke the camel's back for me when it comes to defending EA. And it's mostly due to the defense. I had loads of great games last year on '13. I lost games with scores of 7-3, 14-12, 17-13, etc. So far in '14, I haven't had a single game, dynasty or play now, that hasn't ended with both teams scoring less than at least 20 points, and the winning team almost always scoring 40+. Zone is just plain an utter disaster, Man is just sitting there waiting for the AI to decide to bend you over and violate you.

And yes, as mors and CLW have attested to, you pretty much can sit there throwing for 700 yards and 6+ TDs, not using any money plays. All you need is the knowledge and ability to read the defense and you'll be able to find an open receiver pretty much every play, and know which receiver it's going to be before you even snap the ball.

So there you go, THAT is why we complain about defense.

[ram29jackson]

he's only 13 and you exceeded your private message total by the way

[SmoothPancakes]

he's only 13 and you exceeded your private message total by the way

So I was correct in my recollection of his age. And in that case, indeed, I have been playing this series since before he was even a twinkle in his daddy's eye.

And damn, that inbox filled up fast since I last cleaned it. :D I deleted a couple messages so there's a little room now, I'll have to do a full cleaning in a bit.

[dhook27]

Even though i dont agree with our thoughts on the defense i do agree with your comments of how long youve spent playing and the money you put in it. So smooth do a test dynasty with these sliders from OS called " Unleash Infinity" read every page and you will see that you can get a lot of defensive games with those sliders. Just test them out I love them they play to ratings really well. Tell me what you think.

[bdoughty]

How on earth do you fill up Private Messages? Even on the internet I am a loser since I doubt I have received enough PM's to fill it up in my couple years here. I am sad now.

[bdoughty]

So smooth do a test dynasty with these sliders from OS called " Unleash Infinity"


Nah you should get it. They have a slider set at Os called "Unleash Infinity" which really gives you a good game of football


Are you getting paid for each time you mention that? I want to "Unleash an Infinity of profanity" on people that masturbate over sliders. As if a complete stranger knows exactly what I want in a football game. No thank you sir, I will adjust the game as needed.

Isn't it a school night? You should be asleep by now, not pushing sliders on the internet. It is a gateway product and if you keep this up you will be selling rosters, formation spreadsheets and gameplay tips on a website and skipping school altogether.

[dhook27]

Are you getting paid for each time you mention that? I want to "Unleash an Infinity of profanity" on people that masturbate over sliders. As if a complete stranger knows exactly what I want in a football game. No thank you sir, I will adjust the game as needed.
Do you know what sliders even do?

[bdoughty]

Do you know what sliders even do?

They trick the gamer into thinking if they can create some type of "perfect simulation" that will make them adored by the community and EA will hire them for being able to move bars left and right.

Do you know what a placebo is?

[dhook27]

Soooooo when im playing on default heisman where the cpu and me go 20/20 passing then when i use a good slider set i get realistic completion % thats placebo? I could go on and on of ther scenarios too but ima just let you try again lol

[steelerfan]

They trick the gamer into thinking if they can create some type of "perfect simulation" that will make them adored by the community and EA will hire them for being able to move bars left and right.

Do you know what a placebo is?

Seriously, man?

Just because you don't touch sliders doesn't mean they aren't a useful tool.

I'm using Tapatalk 2 and the Cleveland Browns STILL suck.

[bdoughty]

Seriously, man?

Just because you don't touch sliders doesn't mean they aren't a useful tool.

I did specifically say that I adjust the game as necessary, so I never said sliders were some great evil that I never touched. Some sliders work, others not so much. I have less of a gripe with sliders themselves as I use them when necessary but I also try to play a bunch of games before tinkering. That said I am not looking for a "perfect sim." My gripe has always been with "slider gurus" that claim their changes will make everyone's experience better. The guys in the "lab coats" who spend more time testing a game than playing it. Back in the day they called them Snake Oil Salesmen.

Call me crazy but I still consider it a hobby and the day I spend more time tinkering and less time playing, it will be time to move on.

[bdoughty]

Soooooo when im playing on default heisman where the cpu and me go 20/20 passing then when i use a good slider set i get realistic completion % thats placebo? I could go on and on of ther scenarios too but ima just let you try again lol

I play on lowly All-American default and have never had a game where I or the computer threw for 100%. I throw at last one or two int's a game as does the CPU. A couple drops here and there, batted balls, etc. The completion % might be a little high but I think that is to be expected from a video game.

It is what you call a catch-all. They can make the game as realistic as you want but the more realistic it becomes, the less fun it will end you end up playing. You want a bunch of under/over throws that were out of your control but happen because the percentages play more of a factor than skill? Might as well throw dice before a play to determine all the outcomes. This happens with all sports video games, there has to be a line created to keep it fun. Tennis is a perfect example with unforced errors. There will never be a tennis game with realistic stats because only 5 people from Roger Federer's hometown would buy it. The best tennis game in most people's eyes is the original Virtua Tennis for the Dreamcast which was as unrealistic a tennis game as you could make. Diving every other shot, no unforced errors (or very very few) but it was fun and you can play sports games to have fun. Top Spin 4 is another example as it does play more realistic and add unforced errors but still only a small percentage of what you would see in a tennis match. It caters a bit more to someone wanting to see a closer simulation of the sport but limiting it to mostly human errors (extremely mistimed hits causing you to hit the net or go wide/long and limited CPU service faults and unforced errors).

[steelerfan]

I did specifically say that I adjust the game as necessary, so I never said sliders were some great evil that I never touched. Some sliders work, others not so much. I have less of a gripe with sliders themselves as I use them when necessary but I also try to play a bunch of games before tinkering. That said I am not looking for a "perfect sim." My gripe has always been with "slider gurus" that claim their changes will make everyone's experience better. The guys in the "lab coats" who spend more time testing a game than playing it. Back in the day they called them Snake Oil Salesmen.

Call me crazy but I still consider it a hobby and the day I spend more time tinkering and less time playing, it will be time to move on.

So you use the "placebo" too? Interesting.

I'm using Tapatalk 2 and the Cleveland Browns STILL suck.

[bdoughty]

So you use the "placebo" too? Interesting.

I am in the control group. These are Tiburon created sliders so you never know if you are getting. As I said earlier (and once again feel free to read my posts before replying) that there are some sliders that seem to work and others that do not. Ironically the sliders I want and that are in Madden are injury/fatigue. Madden, unlike the majority of games, does not have an auto-save system. I try not to spend too much time figuring out their logic.

[SCClassof93]

I did specifically say that I adjust the game as necessary, so I never said sliders were some great evil that I never touched. Some sliders work, others not so much. I have less of a gripe with sliders themselves as I use them when necessary but I also try to play a bunch of games before tinkering. That said I am not looking for a "perfect sim." My gripe has always been with "slider gurus" that claim their changes will make everyone's experience better. The guys in the "lab coats" who spend more time testing a game than playing it. Back in the day they called them Snake Oil Salesmen.

Call me crazy but I still consider it a hobby and the day I spend more time tinkering and less time playing, it will be time to move on.

http://images.wikia.com/gleenewpathsnewdirections/images/d/de/1290603068_crazy-brazilian-murderer-interview.gif

[SCClassof93]

How on earth do you fill up Private Messages? Even on the internet I am a loser since I doubt I have received enough PM's to fill it up in my couple years here. I am sad now.

:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKlu3A3BBgE

[SmoothPancakes]

How on earth do you fill up Private Messages? Even on the internet I am a loser since I doubt I have received enough PM's to fill it up in my couple years here. I am sad now.

Everybody seems to enjoy to chatting with me in private. It's like having my own little fan club. :D

[JBHuskers]

Everybody seems to enjoy to chatting with me in private. It's like having my own little fan club. :D

Probably because you have a phone sex line :sick:

[SmoothPancakes]

Probably because you have a phone sex line :sick:

Hey, daddy only tells them what they want to hear.

[ram29jackson]

private messages get full by page 2. Maybe that could be expanded a little?

its only because my yahoo email messaged me that someone tried to message me here but couldn't because I was full did I find this out

[JBHuskers]

I think the PM limit is 250 total between inbox and sent.

[morsdraconis]

Yeah. Clear out those sent messages and you'll have PLENTY of room.

[ram29jackson]

I think something might be wrong because theres no way I had 250 before that...I think not ?

[SCClassof93]

I think something might be wrong because theres no way I had 250 before that...I think not ?

With your popularity I would think 250 every few days would be the norm :D

[bdoughty]

Even Ram is getting tons of PM's. :fdown:

[SmoothPancakes]

Hell, I've already received 9 or 10 PM's since around 11pm last night.

I'll have to do some more cleaning by the end of the week at this rate. :D

[bdoughty]

Hell, I've already received 9 or 10 PM's since around 11pm last night.

I'll have to do some more cleaning by the end of the week at this rate. :D


http://i.imgur.com/ILar2mD.gif

[SmoothPancakes]

:D

[CLW]

Hell, I've already received 9 or 10 PM's since around 11pm last night.

I'll have to do some more cleaning by the end of the week at this rate. :D

How come no one (other than SC) PMs me. :smh:

[morsdraconis]

How come no one (other than SC) PMs me. :smh:

Same here. :(

[ram29jackson]

Same here. :(

because your avatar is scary :D

[ram29jackson]

How come no one (other than SC) PMs me. :smh:

don't want to bother a busy,important lawyer guy

[volsfan]

Or fear that what they say, could be used in court!

[ram29jackson]

Or fear that what they say, could be used in court!

:D fear of being sued ,..virtually

[xMrHitStickx904]

Even though i dont agree with our thoughts on the defense i do agree with your comments of how long youve spent playing and the money you put in it. So smooth do a test dynasty with these sliders from OS called " Unleash Infinity" read every page and you will see that you can get a lot of defensive games with those sliders. Just test them out I love them they play to ratings really well. Tell me what you think.

Still putting up 40+ with those sliders. Face it, the game is bad.

[JBHuskers]

Played an OD game against the CPU last night, it was 7-6 at halftime.

Played Kia in an OD game the other night. Final was 20-7.

[gschwendt]

Played an OD game against the CPU last night, it was 7-6 at halftime.

Played Kia in an OD game the other night. Final was 20-7.
You're leaving out the results of your game from last night...
:troll:

[JBHuskers]

You're leaving out the results of your game from last night...
:troll:

Yeah I scored ZERO :D there was defense.

[ram29jackson]

Yeah I scored ZERO :D there was defense.

:) which team are you so I know which youtube video to look for ?

[jaymo76]

I beat Nevada 14-9 in my UNLV dynasty. Both teams were well under 300 yards. However, the next game I beat Wyoming 28-27. My qb went 34-45 for 496 yards 2 td's and 2 ints. The cpu qb was 26-42 for 291 yards and 3 td's. The overall yards for both offenses was almost 950 yards. There is d in this game but it's not the majority of games.

[gigemaggs99]

How come no one (other than SC) PMs me. :smh:


PM??? :confused:

I didn't even now that was an option. I'm usually drinking till the AM though if that matters.... :dunno:

[SmoothPancakes]

We complain because there is no fucking defense. I'm playing Tulsa at Utah State (I'm Utah State). Early 2nd quarter, Tulsa is 6-6 for on third downs. They've converted on third and 7, third and 3, third and 13, third and 6, third and 5 and finally third and 9.

It doesn't matter what play I call, it doesn't matter what play Tulsa calls. They'll complete a pass underneath, my guy will attempt to tackle to force fourth down, the Tulsa player will shake the tackle off like it's nothing and pick up the first down before the game finally allows my players to tackle him. There is no one on one tackling in this game. Anything short of a 3 (or more) on one gang tackle, you may as well not even fucking bother, because the offensive player will just shake that shit off no matter what.

Gave up a 40 yard pass on that third and 7 like that. It was a throw underneath to the left. My cornerback had a one on one, all he had to do was tackle him and it would have been, at most, a one or two yard gain. The receiver just shook that shit right off and proceeded to sprint down the field 40 yards (shaking off my outside linebacker's tackle attempt also) before my safety could trip him up. There's almost no point in trying. I'm about ready to just say fuck it and go full Super Sim on defense from now on. Why subject myself to that shit every play? At least, if anything, it'll make the game go faster and I can get past that shit faster.

[MrToo Brand New]

The defense is a mockery in this game. By this time I would have played 100 games online yet have only played 25. There is no enjoyment in non stop 50-40 shoot outs. The pass coverage is a joke. You have to either nano blitz or play phag d to stop any competent user with decent pass plays. I'll be playing a lot more 2k this year.

[dhook27]

We complain because there is no fucking defense. I'm playing Tulsa at Utah State (I'm Utah State). Early 2nd quarter, Tulsa is 6-6 for on third downs. They've converted on third and 7, third and 3, third and 13, third and 6, third and 5 and finally third and 9.

It doesn't matter what play I call, it doesn't matter what play Tulsa calls. They'll complete a pass underneath, my guy will attempt to tackle to force fourth down, the Tulsa player will shake the tackle off like it's nothing and pick up the first down before the game finally allows my players to tackle him. There is no one on one tackling in this game. Anything short of a 3 (or more) on one gang tackle, you may as well not even fucking bother, because the offensive player will just shake that shit off no matter what.

Gave up a 40 yard pass on that third and 7 like that. It was a throw underneath to the left. My cornerback had a one on one, all he had to do was tackle him and it would have been, at most, a one or two yard gain. The receiver just shook that shit right off and proceeded to sprint down the field 40 yards (shaking off my outside linebacker's tackle attempt also) before my safety could trip him up. There's almost no point in trying. I'm about ready to just say fuck it and go full Super Sim on defense from now on. Why subject myself to that shit every play? At least, if anything, it'll make the game go faster and I can get past that shit faster.
Testing any sliders yet? And that just sounds like default heisman BS not defense maybe check your player ratings??

[SmoothPancakes]

Testing any sliders yet? And that just sounds like default heisman BS not defense maybe check your player ratings??

Believe it or not, I actually started to find some semblance of a defense in the second half of the game with the sliders I've been using. After I jacked up defensive sliders at halftime. Super-boosting tackling seemed to help, my players started to actually be able to tackle one on one. And actually tackle properly, not have to constantly ankle tackle. Now I just have to see how the "new" sliders actually play out in a full game, with San Jose State up next in my dynasty.

[PDuncanOSU]

I play an online dynasty with one other user. In year 2 of our dynasty I am in my first years as the head coach at Oregon. We play with default All American settings. I will agree that offense is much too easy against the CPU, but I generally have no problem stopping or at least slowing down the CPU offense. In my first 7 games this season I've given up 7, 7, 14, 19, 7, 10, & 7 points. In the first season, where I was head coach at Nevada, I had similar scores.

[souljahbill]

We complain because there is no fucking defense. I'm playing Tulsa at Utah State (I'm Utah State). Early 2nd quarter, Tulsa is 6-6 for on third downs. They've converted on third and 7, third and 3, third and 13, third and 6, third and 5 and finally third and 9.

It doesn't matter what play I call, it doesn't matter what play Tulsa calls. They'll complete a pass underneath, my guy will attempt to tackle to force fourth down, the Tulsa player will shake the tackle off like it's nothing and pick up the first down before the game finally allows my players to tackle him. There is no one on one tackling in this game. Anything short of a 3 (or more) on one gang tackle, you may as well not even fucking bother, because the offensive player will just shake that shit off no matter what.

Gave up a 40 yard pass on that third and 7 like that. It was a throw underneath to the left. My cornerback had a one on one, all he had to do was tackle him and it would have been, at most, a one or two yard gain. The receiver just shook that shit right off and proceeded to sprint down the field 40 yards (shaking off my outside linebacker's tackle attempt also) before my safety could trip him up. There's almost no point in trying. I'm about ready to just say fuck it and go full Super Sim on defense from now on. Why subject myself to that shit every play? At least, if anything, it'll make the game go faster and I can get past that shit faster.

The CPU is an expert at getting 1 yard more then they need on 3rd down. It's hilarious sometimes.

[baseballplyrmvp]

the cpu in general is just fucked up. i'm playing an offline dynasty game as USC against colorado, and their qb started out 0-12, then hit 3 straight receivers, then missed on his next 8, and is now 6-26 with 6 ints. its either hit him perfectly or miss by 50 yards.

and talk about a joke of the infinity engine. their 175 lb running back took 1 step and trucked my DE who was running full speed.

[dhook27]

the cpu in general is just fucked up. i'm playing an offline dynasty game as USC against colorado, and their qb started out 0-12, then hit 3 straight receivers, then missed on his next 8, and is now 6-26 with 6 ints. its either hit him perfectly or miss by 50 yards.

and talk about a joke of the infinity engine. their 175 lb running back took 1 step and trucked my DE who was running full speed.
Turn off Home Field Advantage Effects

[jello1717]

This is from my last complete season in my Heisman difficulty Michigan (rated 99/99/99) offline dynasty. I'll play some man coverage, but I probably sit in zone more than 75% of the time (lots of different zones and zone blitzes mixed up really well).

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt214/jello1717/Camera%20Awesome%20Photos/preview_image_0_44392732x_zpsa6ff9208.jpg

The stats are:
#1 total D (280 YPG)
#44 pass D (196 YPG) {this is mainly because teams pass against me a lot in the 2nd half because they're trailing}
#1 rush D (84 YPG) {See above}
#1 PAPG (16.7 PAPG)
#2 sacks (3.8 sacks PG)

Here is my vastly inferior 88/88/87 Illinois OD team's D:
http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt214/jello1717/Camera%20Awesome%20Photos/preview_image_0_88668502x_zps106181d2.jpg

This is 10 games into 2015. My D in the first 2 seasons (when I had the worst team in our 12 user B1G conference both seasons) was atrocious! But now that my D is getting more talented (87 now instead of being in the 70s/low 80s) my numbers have improved a LOT. They're not on par with my Michigan team's stats, but the D isn't nearly as talented yet either. I'm guessing once my team gets to that level, my D's numbers will keep improving.

[jello1717]

The defense is a mockery in this game. By this time I would have played 100 games online yet have only played 25. There is no enjoyment in non stop 50-40 shoot outs. The pass coverage is a joke. You have to either nano blitz or play phag d to stop any competent user with decent pass plays. I'll be playing a lot more 2k this year.

I can't imagine getting 50-40 shootouts in game with 5 minute quarters (I'm assuming you're talking about ranked matches). We don't allow nano blitzing on TSO (and I very rarely can get sacks against other users except for the occasional coverage sack) and I think your other option is 2 man under, which I don't use much of as I play zone 75+ % of the time. Here's my current season in my OD:

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt214/jello1717/Camera%20Awesome%20Photos/2015schedule_zps8a89e46e.png

The USER games I've played are in bold. The most points I've scored against a user is 34 (which is the LEAST I've scored against the CPU) and the 3 users I've played with my 88/88/87 Illinois team (93/95/92 MSU, 97/97/95 Michigan, and 90/97/83 Wisconsin) are only averaging 13.3 PPG against me. This is with 7 minute quarters.

It's been my experience that USER games are WAY lower scoring than CPU games.

[steelerfan]

What quarter length are you using?

Edit: NM, just saw 7 minutes.

I'm using Tapatalk 2 and the Cleveland Browns STILL suck.

[xMrHitStickx904]

Turn off Home Field Advantage Effects

The problem is that I shouldn't have to take that step for things in the game to actually work correctly.

[dhook27]

The problem is that I shouldn't have to take that step for things in the game to actually work correctly.
The reason they have it in the game is because they want some type of realism of Home Field. They just over did it. You say it like it is a glitch.

[baseballplyrmvp]

Turn off Home Field Advantage Effects

so then the cpu qb could go 0-26? colorado was the home team.

[dhook27]

so then the cpu qb could go 0-26? colorado was the home team.
No turning it off just makes the players play more to there ratings and doesnt give th CPU or the User suprise momentum boosts when you or the CPU did nothing to get it. Usually the momentum boosts are after halftime.

[ram29jackson]

ultimate team.

LOL crap like this. Ive got the guy at 3rd and 28...so of course the game lets him complete a 48 yard pass and makes 2 of my players botch an int or slapping the ball away and it magically gets in the WRs hands...this happens all the time in one way or another... I like the NC state all red uni's by the way :nod:...yes I cheesed spying 2 guys and rushing just one :sick:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Zh0cIYiQOw&feature=youtu.be

[jello1717]

ultimate team.

LOL crap like this. Ive got the guy at 3rd and 28...so of course the game lets him complete a 48 yard pass and makes 2 of my players botch an int or slapping the ball away and it magically gets in the WRs hands...this happens all the time in one way or another... I like the NC state all red uni's by the way :nod:...yes I cheesed spying 2 guys and rushing just one :sick:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Zh0cIYiQOw&feature=youtu.be

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

Did I just read that not only did you use a spy on 3RD AND 28, but you spied 2 guys???????

That sounds like some egregious user error to me.

[ram29jackson]

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

Did I just read that not only did you use a spy on 3RD AND 28, but you spied 2 guys???????

That sounds like some egregious user error to me.

no, that's called dealing with a win at all cost cheeser LOL. He already showed he would run upfield once everyone was out of position which happens all the time anyway..and no pass rush besides. And this is ultimate team where a lot of players are rated higher

[jello1717]

no, that's called dealing with a win at all cost cheeser LOL. He already showed he would run upfield once everyone was out of position which happens all the time anyway..and no pass rush besides. And this is ultimate team where a lot of players are rated higher

Cheeser or not, if you let anyone scramble for 20+ yards (even without a spy or DE in contain) that's entirely on you.

[jello1717]

no, that's called dealing with a win at all cost cheeser LOL. He already showed he would run upfield once everyone was out of position which happens all the time anyway..and no pass rush besides. And this is ultimate team where a lot of players are rated higher
And before you try to make this something about Ultimate Team, I've played my fair share of NFUT and didn't have any more issues playing D there than I do in dynasty/OD. Yes the players are rated higher (somewhat) but that means that my defensive guys are also rated higher.

It looks like 7 of my last 15 games were shutouts (which of course is MUCH easier to do with retarded 3 minute quarters than 7 minute quarters).

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt214/jello1717/Camera%20Awesome%20Photos/preview_image_0_36034672x_zps5588ce3a.jpg

[ram29jackson]

LOL what ever dude...its a sports video game and we like to compete somewhat. I play straight as an arrow with other straight players but in the online ghetto I really don't care what happens to a degree( I do care but you have to realize its a game and not care about the outcome). I just showed a play I didnt like and you need to turn it into some football knowledge compare/contrast. That wasn't the intention

I already finished all 8 seasons with a championship so whats your point in showing off your shut outs ? I'm almost pretty much done with playing strangers. Its getting too aggravating. But i'm just showing a clip for amusement and game logic thoughts. Not so you can feel superior about your video game ability. Each game is different and I adjust as I see fit, that's all there is to it.

[jello1717]

LOL what ever dude...its a sports video game and we like to compete somewhat. I play straight as an arrow with other straight players but in the online ghetto I really don't care what happens to a degree( I do care but you have to realize its a game and not care about the outcome). I just showed a play I didnt like and you need to turn it into some football knowledge compare/contrast. That wasn't the intention

I already finished all 8 seasons with a championship so whats your point in showing off your shut outs ? I'm almost pretty much done with playing strangers. Its getting too aggravating. But i'm just showing a clip for amusement and game logic thoughts. Not so you can feel superior about your video game ability. Each game is different and I adjust as I see fit, that's all there is to it.You seem to have completely mistaken my intent. I'm not saying I'm better than you (or anyone else for that matter). You say you can't play D. I'm showing that I can. I'm just trying to help you out. In the 1 example that you showed (presumably as an example of how there's no D in this game) I saw a VERY obvious problem with your play calling and I was just pointing it out. If you don't do stuff like that you will play better D.

The only reason I showed that I played NFUT too is because you made it out as if the lack of D issue was with NFUT so I was showing that NFUT isn't the problem (and I even mentioned that my low points allowed there was misleading since NFUT has such stoopidly short quarters). The reason I showed the shutouts was obviously to provide evidence that you CAN indeed play defense in NFUT. You (presumably) showed video evidence of how you can't play D. I showed statistical evidence that you can. It's really as simple as that.

If you just showed the clip for amusement, then yes, I misconstrued your intent. I thought it was a clip showing how there's no defense in NFUT (and if that's not the intent, it must be obvious why I thought that it was).

[dhook27]

Annnnnnd ram loses again!!

[ram29jackson]

You seem to have completely mistaken my intent. I'm not saying I'm better than you (or anyone else for that matter). You say you can't play D. I'm showing that I can. I'm just trying to help you out. In the 1 example that you showed (presumably as an example of how there's no D in this game) I saw a VERY obvious problem with your play calling and I was just pointing it out. If you don't do stuff like that you will play better D.

The only reason I showed that I played NFUT too is because you made it out as if the lack of D issue was with NFUT so I was showing that NFUT isn't the problem (and I even mentioned that my low points allowed there was misleading since NFUT has such stoopidly short quarters). The reason I showed the shutouts was obviously to provide evidence that you CAN indeed play defense in NFUT.

If you just showed the clip for amusement, then yes, I misconstrued your intent. I thought it was a clip showing how there's no defense in NFUT (and if that's not the intent, it must be obvious why I thought that it was).

:) ok fine. Like I said, I play straight with sim people. But when we say no defense we are talking about how the game tries to represent it, not necessarily your play calling. QBs knocking over lineman, CBs constantly made to be beat deep or to the flats by a forcefield that wont let them come near a receiver. The constant incredible catch ignoring your defensive call. And of course that defensive playmaker thing is simply very broken. ive started like 3 separate offline dynasties so I can enjoy the game with different themes and in different ways

[dhook27]

:) ok fine. Like I said, I play straight with sim people. But when we say no defense we are talking about how the game tries to represent it, not necessarily your play calling. QBs knocking over lineman, CBs constantly made to be beat deep or to the flats by a forcefield that wont let them come near a receiver. The constant incredible catch ignoring your defensive call. And of course that defensive playmaker thing is simply very broken. ive started like 3 separate offline dynasties so I can enjoy the game with different themes and in different ways
hey add me so we can play.

[ram29jackson]

hey add me so we can play.

sorry Jr, I don't add minors to my friends list

[steelerfan]

sorry Jr, I don't add minors to my friends list

Per Court Order?

:easy:

[ram29jackson]

Per Court Order?

:easy:

whaaaaat eeeevvvveeeeerrrr

[SmoothPancakes]

Per Court Order?

:easy:

http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx305/SmoothPancakes/Gifs/SNICKER_zpsb132ad04.gif

[dhook27]

Per Court Order?

:easy:
Lmao

[SCClassof93]

http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx305/SmoothPancakes/Gifs/SNICKER_zpsb132ad04.gif

Mo Money, Mo Money, you owe me :D

[JBHuskers]

Per Court Order?

:easy:

C'mon :sf: I'm disappointed in you not posting the free candy pic.

[steelerfan]

C'mon :sf: I'm disappointed in you not posting the free candy pic.

I looked for it the other day and couldn't find it. I lost the picture and need to go back and find it here so I have it again. If you have it, text it to me.

[JBHuskers]

I looked for it the other day and couldn't find it. I lost the picture and need to go back and find it here so I have it again. If you have it, text it to me.

You're going to have to dig :D I don't have it. Maybe Smooth has stored it in his Photobucket :D

[SmoothPancakes]

You're going to have to dig :D I don't have it. Maybe Smooth has stored it in his Photobucket :D

:D

Nope. Unfortunately not. I looked through it, but that picture is nowhere to be found in it.

[ram29jackson]

I looked for it the other day and couldn't find it. I lost the picture and need to go back and find it here so I have it again. If you have it, text it to me.

just google image ram29jackson dumb ass :D

[ram29jackson]

google thegamingtailgate...but not yet find one with EA image

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTR5zi9uigM_ruvfmWdEYr1-MZA88icE66h5TwmZ3X1hssEkgeYHg

[ram29jackson]

http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=567&d=1352816878

[JBHuskers]

Nice detective work Ram :nod:

[ram29jackson]

Nice detective work Ram :nod:

elmo thread :down:

[bdoughty]

Had to upgrade that image.

http://i.imgur.com/0UuHwGv.jpg

[ram29jackson]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSKkgrOcR6NIa5XW10t0-kelV53MSW33UrYA0tazSNv1wAWhkdsfA

[steelerfan]

just google image ram29jackson dumb ass :D

Actually, I just googled "pedo pedophile sex pervert child fucker stranger danger sicko come here little boy Perry Southern California convicted fondler sit on my lap can you find the candy in my pocket don't tell anyone duct tape hairless" and BAM! There it was.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/10/03/ujyzemu2.jpg

[ram29jackson]

whats the thing in the lower right corner ?

[JBHuskers]

Had to upgrade that image.

http://i.imgur.com/0UuHwGv.jpg

This one fits better and is more creepy....


Actually, I just googled "pedo pedophile sex pervert child fucker stranger danger sicko come here little boy Perry Southern California convicted fondler sit on my lap can you find the candy in my pocket don't tell anyone duct tape hairless" and BAM! There it was.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/10/03/ujyzemu2.jpg

...than this one :D

[ram29jackson]

Actually, I just googled "pedo pedophile sex pervert child fucker stranger danger sicko come here little boy Perry Southern California convicted fondler sit on my lap can you find the candy in my pocket don't tell anyone duct tape hairless" and BAM! There it was.

[/IMG]

:) come on dude, that's a little over the top .Tone it down a little, man :(

[SCClassof93]

Actually, I just googled "pedo pedophile sex pervert child fucker stranger danger sicko come here little boy Perry Southern California convicted fondler sit on my lap can you find the candy in my pocket don't tell anyone duct tape hairless" and BAM! There it was.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/10/03/ujyzemu2.jpg

Should have just tried "Penn State", much shorter :D

[JBHuskers]

Should have just tried "Penn State", much shorter :D

It's ths same amount of letters Junior :fp: :D

[ram29jackson]

Had to upgrade that image.

http://i.imgur.com/0UuHwGv.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nq6pekM6sZQ

[SCClassof93]

It's ths same amount of letters Junior :fp: :D

You Nebraska grads:fp:, is it counting or the quotation marks (these things "") that confuse you??? Now, go back and look at my post again. I quote :sf: and what he googled (see the length??) and made my post.............let us adults talk okay:D

[SCClassof93]

SCClassof93 - raising the maturity level at TGT with each and every post :P

[SCClassof93]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nq6pekM6sZQ

Could be worse:dunno:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tqxzWdKKu8

[jello1717]

As I've stated my 99/99/99 Michigan team plays AMAZING defense and my 88/88/87 Illinois OD team played great defense. I recently started a new coach carousel dynasty where I started as the OC for ULL. After 2 years I took over as HC of 2* Buffalo that has a fucking 66 (D+) rated defense. I know (and accept and appreciate) that their defense will struggle because they're rated so poorly (66 is just a step above FCS level) but I have to admit that playing D with them is the most aggravating experience I've ever experienced in a sports video game. No matter what I try (I use the same CPB as Michigan/Illinois) I can't even slow down MAC conference level CPU offenses.

I love that the ratings actually matter, but while my original plan was to build Buffalo up to be the dominant MAC team I know that it'll take entire too long to improve this horrendous defense so I'm pretty sure I'm gonna take the pussy's way out and take the next HC job that I'm offered.