NCAA Football 14 at E3

[CLW]

wow :Vanderbilt: getting some love.

[Deuce]

Damn man... Was really hoping we'd have some more videos by now. I've got jury duty in about 20 minutes and need something to do while I wait.


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[JBHuskers]

Did you happen to notice who the highest rated Punter was this year? Are they making left footed and right footed punters any time soon? Will they have both shoes on or just one, and if so what kind where they?
Also will there be a Punter over the rating of 3 stars for a change, and does playing time come into factor when trying to recruit them. I try to keep 5 or 6 on my team just in case, ones having a bad day..... :D

Just because your name is punter doesn't mean you can request such ridiculous things :D ;)

[punter]

Just because your name is punter doesn't mean you can request such ridiculous things :D ;)

Well there's always next year :drool:

[KIDZER0918]

Yea we are def getting the short end of the stick for videos and information. My guess is that the dec team is waiting underneath the dinner table like a hungry dog waiting for the next gen madden team to finish up and throw them their scraps.

[Jayrah]

In the LSU video it still looks like there is some swerve running. But it still looks good!
Only because whoever was on it previously had the game speed on very fast and the min speed threshold at 0. The user ended up changing it after he figured it out.

[Jayrah]

Speaking of press coverage...

It's an absolute JOKE in this series. Show me some real life examples where DB's are mugging WR's at the LOS for two seconds at a time. In fact, show me some clips where they are actively trying to beat receivers up at the line:...
Cut the quote in an effort to conserve space. But I was going to say too that I think the play was made that way to both cater to the casual fan AND meet the horrific blocking halfway. At least to me, when a qb has 5, 6, 7 seconds to throw, you have to do something that will allow the defense to slow down the wrs for more time. If the game was accurate on the offensive line and you got 3, 4, 5 seconds to throw instead (and even that's a little to long), the bump and run would have been one of the biggest complaints over the past couple years and probably would've got addressed. It really shouldn't be a difficult thing to change.

[Big Blue]

Yea we are def getting the short end of the stick for videos and information. My guess is that the dec team is waiting underneath the dinner table like a hungry dog waiting for the next gen madden team to finish up and throw them their scraps.

madscientist was supposed to have uploaded the rest of that Michigan vs Oklahoma State game by now. Also, @steve_OS said he was going to upload an army vs navy game. Don't know what happened...

[ram29jackson]

Cut the quote in an effort to conserve space. But I was going to say too that I think the play was made that way to both cater to the casual fan AND meet the horrific blocking halfway. At least to me, when a qb has 5, 6, 7 seconds to throw, you have to do something that will allow the defense to slow down the wrs for more time. If the game was accurate on the offensive line and you got 3, 4, 5 seconds to throw instead (and even that's a little to long), the bump and run would have been one of the biggest complaints over the past couple years and probably would've got addressed. It really shouldn't be a difficult thing to change.

LOL its a video game for all ages. No one wants real time anxiety. It will never in essence be a realistic sim type game. Its a game for playing, not a project for research and practice even though some approach it that way LOL.

its a video game, you want to see the player movement, watch the play develop, enjoy the animations. Real world is not the video game and vice versa. The game does have enough ( up to this point) of a reality base so far though. People with a little more football knowledge can and do beat people that don't. But all video games will always be about fantasy and fun. a 3 second time window or less on every play is not a fun factor :D

[SmoothPancakes]

LOL its a video game for all ages. No one wants real time anxiety. It will never in essence be a realistic sim type game. Its a game for playing, not a project for research and practice even though some approach it that way LOL.

its a video game, you want to see the player movement, watch the play develop, enjoy the animations. Real world is not the video game and vice versa. The game does have enough ( up to this point) of a reality base so far though. People with a little more football knowledge can and do beat people that don't. But all video games will always be about fantasy and fun. a 3 second time window or less on every play is not a fun factor :D

Then by that factor, all those bitching about helmets, facemasks, socks, etc just lost their basis for argument.

[Rudy]

Then by that factor, all those bitching about helmets, facemasks, socks, etc just lost their basis for argument.

Ram got served lol!

[LeeSO]

Looks like the refs got a uniform update as well (3:15 mark, LSU vs Alabama clip) it's a small detail but I know some people look for stuff like that. I've just watched what videos we have so many times I've started looking at EVERYTHING.

[ram29jackson]

Then by that factor, all those bitching about helmets, facemasks, socks, etc just lost their basis for argument.


Ram got served lol!

making equipment look good has nothing to do with game reaction logic.

[countryboy]

Am I the only one who isn't getting "pumped/excited" over these videos?

Not that the game looks terrible or anything of the sort, but I just can't seem to get to that excitement level I once did for this series.

Maybe because its only June and I am a huge baseball nut. :dunno:

[steelerfan]

Then by that factor, all those bitching about helmets, facemasks, socks, etc just lost their basis for argument.

:D:D:D:D:D:D

I'm using Tapatalk 2 and the Cleveland Browns STILL suck.

[bdoughty]

I know this is just a silly thought from someone who is not into shaky cam videos at odd angles but.... Why on earth does EA not have DVR's/CaptureDevice hooked up to the kiosks? Let people play their games and whoever wants to share gameplay footage for the internet can download it from the DVR/CaptureDevice. It is not like they are releasing any footage to us, outside a couple screenshots and a gameplay video. This way they would at least have higher quality footage out there for people to watch.

[Jayrah]

I know this is just a silly thought from someone who is not into shaky cam videos at odd angles but.... Why on earth does EA not have DVR's/CaptureDevice hooked up to the kiosks? Let people play their games and whoever wants to share gameplay footage for the internet can download it from the DVR/CaptureDevice. It is not like they are releasing any footage to us, outside a couple screenshots and a gameplay video. This way they would at least have higher quality footage out there for people to watch.
Excellent point. I wondered that as well, cause the side shots of the tv on a crappy cam doesn't help the game look good.

[Jayrah]

LOL its a video game for all ages. No one wants real time anxiety. It will never in essence be a realistic sim type game. Its a game for playing, not a project for research and practice even though some approach it that way LOL.

its a video game, you want to see the player movement, watch the play develop, enjoy the animations. Real world is not the video game and vice versa. The game does have enough ( up to this point) of a reality base so far though. People with a little more football knowledge can and do beat people that don't. But all video games will always be about fantasy and fun. a 3 second time window or less on every play is not a fun factor :D
I agree with that it has to serve the general crowd, but disagree about the fun factor on time windows. People would speed up with the game if all aspect were made somewhat realistic. 3 seconds right now means auto-sack, but if the cb/wr interaction was at least mostly realistic and the line play was realistic then it would be plenty of time to determine for the user what to do with the ball. You underestimate the ability of the human brain to make split second decisions with this thought. You don't even have to look at RL football, you can look at all the FPS games, kids and adults alike determine things like this in the blink of an eye and are very good at making the reaction to kill an enemy 1000 virtual feet away. Heck, you could just look at the running game in the football game itself. We make immediate decisions based on animations and fits and defensive placement and all that. Why couldn't we for the passing game? It would also take away a lot of the downfield and crossfield cheese because people wouldn't have the time to wait for the play to develop the way it does now. The fun factor would DEFINITELY still be there and I guarantee kids would adjust to the speed, just like getting faster on an FPS

EDIT: I personally think EA is scared of just what you mentioned, but I have NO idea why. Casual gamers watch football too and are caught up with the speed of the game. If line play really was realistic it would be ok, it'd just take several games to get used to making that reaction.

[cdj]

NFUT video from ZFarls:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=v1QD-UeaAkE

[ram29jackson]

Flutie !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[baseballplyrmvp]

whats the game extension card thats shown in the first 2 packs (farthest i got)? i never played UT, so I dont know. is it like a contract extension type of thing?

[ram29jackson]

whats the game extension card thats shown in the first 2 packs (farthest i got)? i never played UT, so I dont know. is it like a contract extension type of thing?

like a contract for how many games. You need those cards to play each player after the initial amount of games expires on the players card when you first get it. They are usually cheap and easy to get on the so called open market

[baseballplyrmvp]

like a contract for how many games. You need those cards to play each player after the initial amount of games expires on the players card when you first get it. They are usually cheap and easy to get on the so called open market



oh ok. thanks fancy pants. :D

[ram29jackson]

oh ok. thanks fancy pants. :D

now its pants ? what about pants ? What do pants have to do with it ?

[baseballplyrmvp]

now its pants ? what about pants ? What do pants have to do with it ?


http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcpwfeVxQ01r2vpsgo1_400.png

[GatorfanStovy]

;Wow NCAA ultimate team actually looks like hell of fun. i may jump into it this year .. just maybe.. thanks for the video cdj!!!

[souljahbill]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcpwfeVxQ01r2vpsgo1_400.png

LMAO!

Well played

[SCClassof93]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcpwfeVxQ01r2vpsgo1_400.png

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8tuosCSQX1rqhchf.gif

[cdj]

Tradition Sports: NCAA Football 14 Top 25 Incoming Freshmen (http://traditionsportsonline.com/ea-sports-ncaa-football-14-top-rated-incoming-freshmen)

[razorback44]

Our top rated WR is a guy that won't even been starting. :fdown:

*Of course, it was obviously a random guess by EA and it's just a coincidence that they both wear #2. Nothing to see here.

[razorback44]

Our top rated WR is a guy that won't even been starting. :fdown:

*Of course, it was obviously a random guess by EA and it's just a coincidence that they both wear #2. Nothing to see here.

[cdj]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haEnySbYANc

[Kwizzy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haEnySbYANc
Damn, you're fast. :D

[baseballplyrmvp]

Damn, you're fast. :D

thats what she said. :D

[Kwizzy]

thats what she said. :D

SON-OF-A....! :fp:

In all seriousness, I've seen some pretty encouraging things in this video just in the first cpl plays from the CPU offense.

Inverted veer is gonna be fun to run but more importantly, if you watch the PA pass @ 2:28, it uses the same blocking scheme as Inverted veer (pulling guard and all) so it really does simulate the run it is supposed to. Very nice!

[SCClassof93]

thats what she said. :D

http://www.sternfannetwork.com/xen/index.php?attachments/sanford_son_laughing-gif.101611/

[GatorfanStovy]

Keep the videos coming until Tue! We are almost there. I need more and more video .

[Jayrah]

So much to be excited about in that video. SO MUCH! Immediately I see a couple things.

1: Punt block FINALLY had 2 free rushers off of one side. Before, somehow 10 of 11 guy would get picked up with 9 blockers EVERY TIME. It looked natural and looked like a punt COULD get blocked. Not that it ever will because the kick speed is still quick but it could happen. Speaking of kicking game, looks like punt and kick offs are sped up due to 2.0 and set up more realistically as a result.

2: There's a crossing pattern where the WR catches the ball near the LOS, and the OL jumps downfield instinctively to pick up a block for him!!!!!!! That's huge to me.

3: Something I saw that I just thought of, going back to the bump and run thing. The Zone bump is PERFECTLY done in this game, just a jam and release. Now, that's how the normal B&R should be implemented, just with the CB running with the WR as opposed to letting him go. What they currently have should stay in the game though for use in extreme situations where the CB's bump is 95+ and the receiver release is mid 70's or something. Elite CB's should have a way to control avg wideouts, and this is it. Shading to either side is also an important add to make to cbs.

4: The play cam FINALLY reverts back to original every time after you look at coach cam pre-play. I hated how in previous versions you would look at the coach cam and it would stay in wide mode until you snapped it, at which time it would jump back to the original cam.

5: Kicking might be more difficult? Looks like he goes right most of the time on kicks. Regardless, the stupid kick meter lag seems to be gone, which allowed you to straighten out a kick at times. It also cost me a game in 13 when the meter lagged 2 seconds (not the game, the meter) and a perfectly lined up meter jumped all the way right after I let go of the stix.

6: MUCH easier to see the personnel in that personnel bar.

7: Out routes no longer jumped consistently by trailing LB's, CB's. Better trajectory I think. Both out routes around 2:30 mark were pick-6 last year...

8: Still some bouncing off on certain tackle animations by the 2nd defender, but by and large a big difference in secondary defenders making contact. Force Impact System in full effect at 6:30 at the goal line and it is NICE!

9: I REALLY hope they patch OUT the TD wipe. Stupid and time consuming. Everything in this game is built for faster, and that slows everything down... :( What happened to the touchdown popup in the score bar? That was perfect!

10: CPU running is finally better in the open field. CPU attempts to get upfield but still makes realistic moves on the fly.

11: Play at 1:58 would've been a tackle by the D-end in the backfield in the past. Love how the ends are playing the read and speed options this year.

Just exciting stuff.

[jello1717]

Michigan v. Oklahoma State, part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=haEnySbYANc)

[Tryhard Nation]

Remember guys we still have one more playbook left!

[Tryhard Nation]

Michigan v. Oklahoma State, part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=haEnySbYANc)
Look above lol

[Jayrah]

@Jello1717... Too slow dude. By an hour +

[Jayrah]

Remember guys we still have one more playbook left!
Yeah won't be much, just hoping to hear more about how announcing and season stories have improved. Nothing we don't know about yet though...

[jello1717]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1TVG78c654

[Kwizzy]

Really nice @ 1:58 to see the DE get off his block to the outside on the stretch play and make a play.

[jello1717]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVprOqriQwU

[jello1717]

Game changers, do you know what these symbols under the players are? Are they replacements for the hot/cold circles under players in previous games or are they something else?

Is it a matchup stick picture meaning some dudes are even with their opposite (yellow bar) while the dudes with a green arrow up have an advantage and the dude with a red arrow down is at a disadvantage?

662

[steelerfan]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcpwfeVxQ01r2vpsgo1_400.png

:D:D:D

I'm using Tapatalk 2 and the Cleveland Browns STILL suck.

[KIDZER0918]

man that last that OSU pulled off was pretty sweet!

[KIDZER0918]

Man is that all we are getting one game? Well at least the Demo is coming out on Tuesday!

[jaymo76]

Game changers, do you know what these symbols under the players are? Are they replacements for the hot/cold circles under players in previous games or are they something else?

Is it a matchup stick picture meaning some dudes are even with their opposite (yellow bar) while the dudes with a green arrow up have an advantage and the dude with a red arrow down is at a disadvantage?

662

That's how I interpretted it. Personally I liked the 06 version better but I'm just glad to see matchup stick return.

[gschwendt]

I'm not certain but I don't think it's the matchup stick there, I think it's the hot or cold indicator. I'm sure we'll be able to tell a little better come Tuesday.

[JSmith03]

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This just looks so clean compared to last year.

[ram29jackson]

This just looks so clean compared to last year.

clean ? its a cartoony video game...clean could also mean it looks kind of plastic. It looks so clean that it looks like it did 5 and six years ago actually.its not vastly different really. Just different levels in brightness

http://videogamecritic.com/images/360/ncaa_football_07.jpg

http://www.techshout.com/images/ncaa-football07-ss1.jpg

http://i3.ytimg.com/vi/RQ9MuEC5ZU4/hqdefault.jpg?feature=og

[OSUCowboyofMD]

The grass just needs to be toned down a bit IMO, and I think it will look fine

[Deuce]

I'm not certain but I don't think it's the matchup stick there, I think it's the hot or cold indicator. I'm sure we'll be able to tell a little better come Tuesday.

Ill try and get a screen grab of it but I think I saw it earlier on one of the videos. It was a banner across the top with 3 or 4 ratings showing +/- a #.


Typed by thumbs.

[Deuce]

Here it is...look across the top.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/16/umytevam.jpg


Typed by thumbs.

[ram29jackson]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haEnySbYANc

while a cam that far back might help some people in some ways..it makes the game less interesting and the players too small..looks like a phone app game. You don't really enjoy the player movement and animations and such

[cdj]

Game changers, do you know what these symbols under the players are? Are they replacements for the hot/cold circles under players in previous games or are they something else?

Is it a matchup stick picture meaning some dudes are even with their opposite (yellow bar) while the dudes with a green arrow up have an advantage and the dude with a red arrow down is at a disadvantage?


I'm not certain but I don't think it's the matchup stick there, I think it's the hot or cold indicator. I'm sure we'll be able to tell a little better come Tuesday.

Actually, I am pretty sure that is part of the match-up stick.

[ram29jackson]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVprOqriQwU

[ram29jackson]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1TVG78c654

[jello1717]

Actually, I am pretty sure that is part of the match-up stick.

This is my guess because in my picture it's only showing the skill players, but in other parts it only shows the O-line. Im guessing matchup stick shows one group at a time. With the hot/cold of yesteryear it showed everyone at once.

[jaymo76]

This is my guess because in my picture it's only showing the skill players, but in other parts it only shows the O-line. Im guessing matchup stick shows one group at a time. With the hot/cold of yesteryear it showed everyone at once.

According to the videos, when you look at the right stick options it looks like you can see pass play matchup, run play matchup, and hot/cold players

[Rudy]

I know some guys love zoom and the close up look. Those aren't for me. I don't care for the Zoom camera and the Wide camera is too flat. I love the co-ordinator cam. I can understand guys that say it's too far away and you don't appreciate the graphics as much. Just imagine the guy that buys NCAA 15 for the PS4 and uses that cam and doesn't notice a difference lol.

Either way the co-ordinator cam looks great to me. Can't wait to try it out on the demo.

[jaymo76]

I know some guys love zoom and the close up look. Those aren't for me. I don't care for the Zoom camera and the Wide camera is too flat. I love the co-ordinator cam. I can understand guys that say it's too far away and you don't appreciate the graphics as much. Just imagine the guy that buys NCAA 15 for the PS4 and uses that cam and doesn't notice a difference lol.

Either way the co-ordinator cam looks great to me. Can't wait to try it out on the demo.

Yup, I will either use NORMAL or COORDINATOR. Whatever helps my passing game tomy primary receivers is the camera I will choose.

[Rudy]

Anyone remember the Blimp camera back in Madden on the PS1 - like Madden 98 or Madden 99? I use to play with that camera all the time. This new co-ordinator camera is a better version of it. Wish Madden had it.

[Deuce]

Yup, I will either use NORMAL or COORDINATOR. Whatever helps my passing game tomy primary receivers is the camera I will choose.

:+1:


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[Rudy]

The Madden default camera has changed a lot! (I'm going to post this in the Madden thread too). I didn't realize how different it was. You can see the outside WRs easily now. It's more of a cross between default and co-ordinator now but lower. Madden 13 default cam is very similar to NCAA 14 default. Check these images out.

Madden 13 default Cam
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m195/rudyjuly2/Madden/madden13defaultatsnap.jpg (http://s104.photobucket.com/user/rudyjuly2/media/Madden/madden13defaultatsnap.jpg.html)

Madden 25 Default cam
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m195/rudyjuly2/Madden/Madden25defaultcamatthesnap2.jpg (http://s104.photobucket.com/user/rudyjuly2/media/Madden/Madden25defaultcamatthesnap2.jpg.html)

NCAA 14 default cam
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m195/rudyjuly2/Madden/ncaa14Normalcamatsnap.jpg (http://s104.photobucket.com/user/rudyjuly2/media/Madden/ncaa14Normalcamatsnap.jpg.html)

NCAA 14 Co-ordinator cam
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m195/rudyjuly2/Madden/coordinatorNCAA14atsnap.jpg (http://s104.photobucket.com/user/rudyjuly2/media/Madden/coordinatorNCAA14atsnap.jpg.html)

[Rudy]

Army vs. Navy

http://www.operationsports.com/news/638286/ncaa-football-14-video-army-vs-navy/

[ram29jackson]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZmGpjhVVBw

[jello1717]

This is a great thing to see from a CPU option QB!

663

[Rudy]

Just watched the first few minutes of Army vs. Navy and there were two fumbles. I know you said EA did not add the fumble slider to NCAA so is this a problem in NCAA 14 or just a small sample size?

[Deuce]

This is a great thing to see from a CPU option QB!

663

:+1:

Was that on varsity? If so, that's pretty damn scary. ...in a good way.

[morsdraconis]

Heh, nevermind. Guess I should watch the whole video. ;)

[morsdraconis]

Ok. I definitely have an issue with the way the option is being ran. Seems like, or at least, in that quarter of play, that the FB never touched the ball on either side because the read man took it away every time. That's highly unrealistic because the FB is their main runner. He's the one that touches the ball 15+ times a game.

[jello1717]

Ok. I definitely have an issue with the way the option is being ran. Seems like, or at least, in that quarter of play, that the FB never touched the ball on either side because the read man took it away every time. That's highly unrealistic because the FB is their main runner. He's the one that touches the ball 15+ times a game.I didn't pay attention to Navy, but the Army user made the wrong read at least twice on triple options where the correct read was to give to the B back. That part was user error.

[morsdraconis]

I didn't pay attention to Navy, but the Army user made the wrong read at least twice on triple options where the correct read was to give to the B back. That part was user error.

The CPU definitely didn't ever give it to the FB.

[jello1717]

The CPU definitely didn't ever give it to the FB.I watched it again and the Army user made the wrong read twice (and only twice) when he should've given it to the B back.

The CPU never gave it to the B back, but at least they made the right read (on the "read" key) every time as Army crashed on the B back on every play. I know in '13 you could force the read to be "crash" every time by slanting your D-line so maybe the Army user was doing that (almost certainly unaware that slanting the line forces the "crash" read). If not, then the issue would be that Army crashed every time, but not that the Navy never gave it to the B back since the correct read on every play was to keep it.

[GatorfanStovy]

Old video but thanks.

[KIDZER0918]

I am liking what I am seeing on the Navy video. I am seeing a lot of takles that were not possible before and that one user Hit stick looked brutal!

[LeeSO]

South Alabama vs Old Dominion Quarters 1-3. According to MadSci's twitter page, the dog ate the 4th quarter footage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=BOTwDp-ZPSc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=6aMaDsrfR6k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=DiH-r89jndU

[GatorfanStovy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3PIqZRrTjQ&feature=youtu.be

all team uniforms for y'all to enjoy.

[jello1717]

That's interesting. For D playbooks there's still 4-3, 3-4, and multiple, but in addition to those there is 3-4 multiple, and 4-3 multiple.

[KIDZER0918]

nice!

[morsdraconis]

South Alabama vs Old Dominion Quarters 1-3. According to MadSci's twitter page, the dog ate the 4th quarter footage.

I'm sorry, but watching this dude play makes my heart hurt. He's really shit at this game...

[jello1717]

In Q1 of the ODU video, look at the CPU pass rush @ 7:22! The LE does a sick spin move to get by his guy while the RE does a great swim move to beat his man.

[ram29jackson]

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[morsdraconis]

In Q1 of the ODU video, look at the CPU pass rush @ 7:22! The LE does a sick spin move to get by his guy while the RE does a great swim move to beat his man.

Well, it didn't help that he did a pump fake on a PA Pass play. :( Pretty much asking for the sack there....

Still cool to see the DEs actually doing something besides just the normal old pushing against the immovable OTs (unless you move outside of the pocket and even think about hitting speed burst - then you've never seen defensive ends shed blocks so quickly).

[dhook27]

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Finally been asking for that FOREVER

[xMrHitStickx904]

ODU is the Monarchs, lmao wow.

[SmoothPancakes]

ODU is the Monarchs, lmao wow.

You didn't know that?

[Rudy]

In Q1 of the ODU video, look at the CPU pass rush @ 7:22! The LE does a sick spin move to get by his guy while the RE does a great swim move to beat his man.

That was very nice!

[CLW]

Surprised :Duke: got all of its uniform combinations in the game with the blue and black helmets.

[Deuce]

The tackle on the 2nd half kickoff is awesome. :nod:

[SmoothPancakes]

Boo! A couple of Tulsa's uniform options that are in '13 have been removed from '14. Don't know if it was the university requesting them removed (no longer used uniforms?) but still, uniforms should only be added, never removed from the game. I suppose it's a good thing that I'm leaving Tulsa and moving onto a new team at the end of my current season.

[Rudy]

Madsci tweeted at me that he felt player momentum was the same in both Madden and NCAA.

@MadScientist06: @jpdavis1982 @rudyjuly2 The swerve is gone in both NCAA Football 14 and Madden NFL 25 next gen. I didn't feel any difference between them.

[SCClassof93]

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[SCClassof93]

Boo! A couple of Tulsa's uniform options that are in '13 have been removed from '14. Don't know if it was the university requesting them removed (no longer used uniforms?) but still, uniforms should only be added, never removed from the game. I suppose it's a good thing that I'm leaving Tulsa and moving onto a new team at the end of my current season.

They moved them into the first DLC pack :D

[SmoothPancakes]

They moved them into the first DLC pack :D

I wouldn't put it past EA. :fp:

The details of the uniforms, I couldn't care less about, but it is nice to have the multiple options of home/away and alternates to mix in here and there throughout the season. Use the home uniform for most games, but maybe throw in a special alternate for the game when a bunch of recruits are visiting (make it feel more special than just another old home game), same for the final home game of the year, make "senior night" feel different than just another home game.

That was one thing I hated at Florida International, staring at essentially the same uniforms every game for three seasons. FIU had their home uniform with a navy blue jersey, and then one home alternate, which the only change was a black jersey. That was it. I can't remember if there was even an away alternate. If there was, it was probably just something like white pants as opposed to gold pants or something. Three years of staring at the same home/away uniform gets a bit old after a while.

So while I ultimately couldn't care less about the little details on uniforms, or socks, or cleats, or facemasks, etc., I do like to have alternate uniforms as options to select now and then throughout the seasons, just to keep things fresh on the field.

[SCClassof93]

I agree! Just a little (very little:fp:) joke. :coffee:

[SmoothPancakes]

I agree! Just a little (very little:fp:) joke. :coffee:

:D Yeah, I only got about three hours of sleep last night, so jokes will fly over me pretty easily this morning/today. Fell asleep around 2am, woke up at 5am coughing up a storm (may have been due to acid reflux or something as I was coughing up crap that tasted like gasoline and burned like hell in the throat) and ended up spending a couple minutes bent over the toilet. Been up ever since as I refuse to lay down with still a weird feeling in my stomach. Vertical is much preferred to horizontal right now.

[xMrHitStickx904]

You didn't know that?

yes, of course. in the video, they have them as the "Big Blue"

[SCClassof93]

:D Yeah, I only got about three hours of sleep last night, so jokes will fly over me pretty easily this morning/today. Fell asleep around 2am, woke up at 5am coughing up a storm (may have been due to acid reflux or something as I was coughing up crap that tasted like gasoline and burned like hell in the throat) and ended up spending a couple minutes bent over the toilet. Been up ever since as I refuse to lay down with still a weird feeling in my stomach. Vertical is much preferred to horizontal right now.

That does not sound good, may want to check for an ulcer.

[SmoothPancakes]

yes, of course. in the video, they have them as the "Big Blue"

Wait, which video? ODU-USA? All I've really watched so far was just the video going through every team's uniforms, and that was listed correctly as Monarchs.

[xMrHitStickx904]

Wait, which video? ODU-USA? All I've really watched so far was just the video going through every team's uniforms, and that was listed correctly as Monarchs.


Yes. I watched the gameplay, and at the coin toss screen is Old Dominion "Big Blue" rather than the "Monarchs". Really weird.

[SmoothPancakes]

Yes. I watched the gameplay, and at the coin toss screen is Old Dominion "Big Blue" rather than the "Monarchs". Really weird.

Well that's odd. Yeah, I haven't watched that video yet, so when you mentioned Monarchs, I thought maybe you were referring to the uniforms video, that maybe you hadn't known ODU's name (I'm sure there are plenty out there who have no idea that they're known as the Monarchs). Definitely a misread on my part. :D

[SmoothPancakes]

That does not sound good, may want to check for an ulcer.

Possibly. It could also be Taco Bell trying to kill me after having it for dinner last night. And on that note, after this morning, I think I'll take a long hiatus from Taco Bell just in case. :D

[fisherjr33]

UConn, Cal, Oregon State, Arizona, North Carolina, Baylor, Indiana or West Virginia do not have their updated uniforms. The updated logos for UConn and Oregon State did make it in.

[RussellW65]

Game looks really good.
I like how almost every team has alternate unis.

Is anyone else having problems with then Army/Navy video loading? Really want to see it but can't

[jello1717]

GT/WVU:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vR9ZKfgT7lI


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qjD9aoSzxs


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bDjOSEhQOE


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxgkW0P600o

[Big Blue]

Game looks really good.
I like how almost every team has alternate unis.

Is anyone else having problems with then Army/Navy video loading? Really want to see it but can't

It's on youtube as well.

[Big Blue]

Game looks really good.
I like how almost every team has alternate unis.

Is anyone else having problems with then Army/Navy video loading? Really want to see it but can't

http://youtu.be/3J2NlzDn43U

[jello1717]

The CPU definitely didn't ever give it to the FB.In Q1 of the GT video, on GT's (CPU's) first play @ 9:08 the OLB stays at home so the QB gives it to the B back.

EDIT:
In the 1st half GT ran a few passes, 1 speed or load option (which didn't involve the B back) and 7 options that did involve the B back. The B back carried the ball on the first 5 of those 7 options.

EDIT2:

Here's the B back's final stats (his backup had at least 1 carry too).

664

[jello1717]

It seems like I remember someone here (Rudy?) asking about the player lock cam. You can (inadvertently) see it in Q2 of the GT video @ 7:10.

[SmoothPancakes]

Has anyone, anywhere on the net, posted prestige ratings yet? We've got all the rankings and ratings of teams, just missing prestige ratings.

[Rudy]

It seems like I remember someone here (Rudy?) asking about the player lock cam. You can (inadvertently) see it in Q2 of the GT video @ 7:10.

Thanks. I was asking about that. I was hoping to see how it looked on co-ordinator cam. I was also hoping for a true defensive camera that didnt rotate but I don't think that is happening.

[fisherjr33]

A more complete listing of missing uniform updates according to that video.

Uniform updates missing for....

Arizona (Released May 6th)
Baylor (Released May 28th)
Cal (Released April 10th)
UConn (Released April 18th)
Indiana (Released June 3rd)
North Carolina (Released April 13th)
Oregon State (Released March 4th)
San Diego State (Released May 3rd)
Southern Miss (Released April 17th)
UCF (Released May 8th)
West Virginia (Released April 20th)

Just missing 11 teams, 8 of which are in power conferences. Somehow Georgia's update, released April 3rd (an entire month after Oregon State's), got in the game. Amazing.

[RussellW65]

http://youtu.be/3J2NlzDn43U

Thanks for the link. Much appreciated.
dang the option game looks great. I saw one new option. Did I see some Pistol Flexbone @ 1:20 Navy clip and @ 4:10 in the last GT clip? Looks like the customary Flexbone Slot formation but in Pistol. If so all I can see is SWEET!!!!!

One negative, the chasing defenders on the long runs still have the Tecmo effect--all running in one line

[ram29jackson]

Boo! A couple of Tulsa's uniform options that are in '13 have been removed from '14. Don't know if it was the university requesting them removed (no longer used uniforms?) but still, uniforms should only be added, never removed from the game. I suppose it's a good thing that I'm leaving Tulsa and moving onto a new team at the end of my current season.

in some cases they may not be in pre set but if you scroll shirts/pants/helmets alone it might be found there.

because they went through SMU and that only had 2 options...theres no way IMO. They've still got to have all the red white and blue alternates like this year

[ram29jackson]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3J2NlzDn43U&feature=youtu.be

[SmoothPancakes]

in some cases they may not be in pre set but if you scroll shirts/pants/helmets alone it might be found there.

because they went through SMU and that only had 2 options...theres no way IMO. They've still got to have all the red white and blue alternates like this year

True. But even in that case, still rather stupid, as they were preset for Tulsa in '13, but then the presets removed for Tulsa in '14. Not sure of the logic of a move like that by EA. Either way, I'll find out in a couple weeks I guess. Like I said, it ultimately doesn't affect me as I'll be leaving Tulsa at the conclusion of my current season. Just something that stood out to me while checking on the uniforms of a couple different specific teams.

Edit - Man, EA boned up some of the preset uniforms this year. Looking at Florida International just now, they completely removed their home alternate preset, they just have an away alternate preset. And no sign of a preset with gold pants, on any of the three uniforms. EA apparently did some dicking with the preset uniforms for teams this year.

[ram29jackson]

LOL from OS



Oregon's uniforms are totally wrong smh. Why is there a dark face mask on the yellow helmet when in real life its chrome and yellow?! The wings are chrome in real life not grey!! It basically ruins that helmet! They also screwed up on the green helmet!!! Its a dark green helmet not light green!! Also Fresno St is receiving new uniforms this year an no one has listed them in their left out list!

18 freaking options, just shut up and pick one :D

[SmoothPancakes]

LOL from OS



18 freaking options, just shut up and pick one :D

Yeah, I'll agree with that. :D Oregon has so many goddamn options in the game, he should just be happy those options are even in the game to begin with.

[souljahbill]

Well that's odd. Yeah, I haven't watched that video yet, so when you mentioned Monarchs, I thought maybe you were referring to the uniforms video, that maybe you hadn't known ODU's name (I'm sure there are plenty out there who have no idea that they're known as the Monarchs). Definitely a misread on my part. :D

I think he goes to ODU.

[SCClassof93]

Has anyone, anywhere on the net, posted prestige ratings yet? We've got all the rankings and ratings of teams, just missing prestige ratings.

Seriously!! Been asking about this since the guide guru came by! Still nothing, ugh:smh:

[Deuce]

From Madsci

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=ubTJehklfuI&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DubTJehklfuI%26feature%3 Dyoutu.be

Ask and you shall receive. :)


Typed by thumbs.

[jello1717]

From Madsci

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=ubTJehklfuI&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DubTJehklfuI%26feature%3 Dyoutu.be

Ask and you shall receive. :)


Typed by thumbs.It's showing as private right now. :fp:

[SCClassof93]

From Madsci

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=ubTJehklfuI&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DubTJehklfuI%26feature%3 Dyoutu.be

Ask and you shall receive. :)


Typed by thumbs.

Nipples went flat, can't view it....................:fp:

[Deuce]

Really? Damn. I got it off his twitter page.


Edit: screen grabs

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/17/y7u5e3uz.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/17/ryduja3e.jpg

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http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/17/4u3e8yhe.jpg

Typed by thumbs.

[jello1717]

I can see it on my ipod touch, but not my PC or my xbox.

[SCClassof93]

Really? Damn. I got it off his twitter page.


Edit: screen grabs

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/17/y7u5e3uz.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/17/ryduja3e.jpg

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http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/17/4u3e8yhe.jpg

Typed by thumbs.

Look at you! :clap:

[RussellW65]

Really dumb question---what are prestige ratings?

[SmoothPancakes]

Really? Damn. I got it off his twitter page.


Edit: screen grabs


Typed by thumbs.

Thank you! I went from hard after the mention of prestige ratings to limp in 0.5 seconds flat upon seeing the video was private. I was very sad. :(

[Deuce]

Thank you! I went from hard after the mention of prestige ratings to limp in 0.5 seconds flat upon seeing the video was private. I was very sad. :(

:D

Madsci has taken care of the community...that's for sure.


Typed by thumbs.

[ram29jackson]

really dumb question---what are prestige ratings?

5 star 4 star etc

[gschwendt]

Washington at Oregon and Michigan at FSU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKcMOpEp0uU

[GatorfanStovy]

I swear all of these people who play the NCAA 14 really suck or just don't care or either the higher difficulty is really tough. But it seems like none of the passing works well nor does the run. One last thing a lot of folks throw the fade rout way too much. That is what I've notice in the videos from E3.

[KIDZER0918]

Thanks to madsci for looking out this year!

[jello1717]

It looks like hit stick is gonna be no joke this year!

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt214/jello1717/SMU%20OD/bighit_zpsd0517d28.gif

[KIDZER0918]

It looks like hit stick is gonna be no joke this year!

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt214/jello1717/SMU%20OD/bighit_zpsd0517d28.gif

I did see a lot of good hits in this game!

[GatorfanStovy]

Agreed new hits are nice and can't to get in on some action on defense.

[Jayrah]

I swear all of these people who play the NCAA 14 really suck or just don't care or either the higher difficulty is really tough. But it seems like none of the passing works well nor does the run. One last thing a lot of folks throw the fade rout way too much. That is what I've notice in the videos from E3.
I noticed that too. MS is HORRIBLE at the option and his $ play is 4 verts throw to the TE/Slot. At first I just thought he was showing the coverage on it (which is much better but still lacking), but he's used it on every third down and med-long in all 10 vids. Makes me wonder how the F some of these clowns become "game-changers" and also makes me realize why the game doesn't "change" as quickly as we want :D Some of the more "major" ones are as cheesy as they come

[AustinWolv]

Jayrah, :+1: for sure!!!!

[morsdraconis]

I noticed that too. MS is HORRIBLE at the option and his $ play is 4 verts throw to the TE/Slot. At first I just thought he was showing the coverage on it (which is much better but still lacking), but he's used it on every third down and med-long in all 10 vids. Makes me wonder how the F some of these clowns become "game-changers" and also makes me realize why the game doesn't "change" as quickly as we want :D Some of the more "major" ones are as cheesy as they come

:nod:

Like I said a few pages back, it hurts my heart to watch some of these guys play the game because they're atrocious at it. I really hate that guys like this are what is driving changes in the game. :smh:

[Kwizzy]

First, I think it's pretty poor form to bash a guy who spent the majority of his time at E3 (and since) providing the community with some of the only video we've got of the game. You can say you don't think he's a good player and that's fine but to question his status as a game changer is off base IMO. By taking the time to upload all of these videos he has shown why he is a game changer. He cares greatly about the NCAA community and goes out of his way to represent them and give them as much back as he can.

Second, not every game changer is there to provide direct feedback on gameplay. Mad started organizing huge multi-player dynasties when you still had to save off the file to a memory card once you finished your game and then send that file to the next guy so he could play his game. He knows everything there is to know about the struggles of running an online dynasty & his feedback probably has a lot to do with the current online dynasty feature even existing.

I would check your facts before you start "biting the hand that feeds you" so to speak. But what the hell do I know? :D

[gschwendt]

OS: First look at the Skills Trainer
http://www.operationsports.com/forums/ncaa-football/638542-ncaa-football-14-video-skills-trainer.html


Also shows the new Shovel Option as well as how the Stumble Mechanic works.

[JBHuskers]

First, I think it's pretty poor form to bash a guy who spent the majority of his time at E3 (and since) providing the community with some of the only video we've got of the game. You can say you don't think he's a good player and that's fine but to question his status as a game changer is off base IMO. By taking the time to upload all of these videos he has shown why he is a game changer. He cares greatly about the NCAA community and goes out of his way to represent them and give them as much back as he can.

Second, not every game changer is there to provide direct feedback on gameplay. Mad started organizing huge multi-player dynasties when you still had to save off the file to a memory card once you finished your game and then send that file to the next guy so he could play his game. He knows everything there is to know about the struggles of running an online dynasty & his feedback probably has a lot to do with the current online dynasty feature even existing.

I would check your facts before you start "biting the hand that feeds you" so to speak. But what the hell do I know? :D

Well said.

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[SCClassof93]

First, I think it's pretty poor form to bash a guy who spent the majority of his time at E3 (and since) providing the community with some of the only video we've got of the game. You can say you don't think he's a good player and that's fine but to question his status as a game changer is off base IMO. By taking the time to upload all of these videos he has shown why he is a game changer. He cares greatly about the NCAA community and goes out of his way to represent them and give them as much back as he can.

Second, not every game changer is there to provide direct feedback on gameplay. Mad started organizing huge multi-player dynasties when you still had to save off the file to a memory card once you finished your game and then send that file to the next guy so he could play his game. He knows everything there is to know about the struggles of running an online dynasty & his feedback probably has a lot to do with the current online dynasty feature even existing.

I would check your facts before you start "biting the hand that feeds you" so to speak. But what the hell do I know? :D

Great post +1

[cdj]

Operation Sports: E3 2013 - NCAA Football 14 Hands-On Preview (http://www.operationsports.com/features/1653/e3-2013-ncaa-football-14-hands-on-preview/)

[AustinWolv]

First, I think it's pretty poor form to bash a guy who spent the majority of his time at E3 (and since) providing the community with some of the only video we've got of the game. You can say you don't think he's a good player and that's fine but to question his status as a game changer is off base IMO. By taking the time to upload all of these videos he has shown why he is a game changer. He cares greatly about the NCAA community and goes out of his way to represent them and give them as much back as he can.

Second, not every game changer is there to provide direct feedback on gameplay. Mad started organizing huge multi-player dynasties when you still had to save off the file to a memory card once you finished your game and then send that file to the next guy so he could play his game. He knows everything there is to know about the struggles of running an online dynasty & his feedback probably has a lot to do with the current online dynasty feature even existing.

I would check your facts before you start "biting the hand that feeds you" so to speak. But what the hell do I know? :D

On the flip side, there were those of us doing the same stuff years ago as well and delivering content as well that somehow got lost in the political shuffle of the Madden/NCAA forum wars/crap back in the day........back before Gamechangers were even called Gamechangers.

So yeah, I don't have a problem saying a guy or "leader" out there shows cheese tendencies, especially since I played a bunch of them back when. That doesn't downplay the content provided at all. Totally different category, in fact. It merely points out the way they play.

[GatorfanStovy]

I noticed that too. MS is HORRIBLE at the option and his $ play is 4 verts throw to the TE/Slot. At first I just thought he was showing the coverage on it (which is much better but still lacking), but he's used it on every third down and med-long in all 10 vids. Makes me wonder how the F some of these clowns become "game-changers" and also makes me realize why the game doesn't "change" as quickly as we want :D Some of the more "major" ones are as cheesy as they come

I'm glad I am not the only one who notice this. But it seems just about one throws a bad pick or can't get the passing gaming what so ever against crappy teams except WA where :Oregon: video should have no problem doing so but he hammered every play by their defense just pathetic IMO.

I can't wait for one more day and its demo time!!

[Kwizzy]

On the flip side, there were those of us doing the same stuff years ago as well and delivering content as well that somehow got lost in the political shuffle of the Madden/NCAA forum wars/crap back in the day........back before Gamechangers were even called Gamechangers.

So yeah, I don't have a problem saying a guy or "leader" out there shows cheese tendencies, especially since I played a bunch of them back when. That doesn't downplay the content provided at all. Totally different category, in fact. It merely points out the way they play.

Look I get it, and I have no idea how things wen't down with you in the past. I'd simply say that people often make the mistake of assuming that everyone enjoys the game just like them. It's not true and to say that it irritates you that someone is a GC just because he doesn't play the game just like you is a very limited POV and overlooks Mad's true contributions as a GC.

On another note, between the limited impressions we've gotten, the videos, & now the OS write up, I am cautiously optimistic for the game at this point. Excited for the demo tomorrow!

[jello1717]

First, I think it's pretty poor form to bash a guy who spent the majority of his time at E3 (and since) providing the community with some of the only video we've got of the game. You can say you don't think he's a good player and that's fine but to question his status as a game changer is off base IMO. By taking the time to upload all of these videos he has shown why he is a game changer. He cares greatly about the NCAA community and goes out of his way to represent them and give them as much back as he can.

Second, not every game changer is there to provide direct feedback on gameplay. Mad started organizing huge multi-player dynasties when you still had to save off the file to a memory card once you finished your game and then send that file to the next guy so he could play his game. He knows everything there is to know about the struggles of running an online dynasty & his feedback probably has a lot to do with the current online dynasty feature even existing.

I would check your facts before you start "biting the hand that feeds you" so to speak. But what the hell do I know? :D

Since I can't find a "like" button on these forums I'll give this a +1.

[AustinWolv]

Look I get it, and I have no idea how things wen't down with you in the past. I'd simply say that people often make the mistake of assuming that everyone enjoys the game just like them. It's not true and to say that it irritates you that someone is a GC just because he doesn't play the game just like you is a very limited POV and overlooks Mad's true contributions as a GC.

On another note, between the limited impressions we've gotten, the videos, & now the OS write up, I am cautiously optimistic for the game at this point. Excited for the demo tomorrow!

Kwizzy, good response and I :+1: it. Just so it is known, it doesn't bother me one bit that Mad or anyone else is a GC. They've done the content work to be given that role by EA and good on them. The other behind-the-scene stuff doesn't matter anymore and is what it is. At the same time, doesn't matter if it is a GC, just some guy off the street, or a forum regular......if the way they are playing is suspect, then it shows. That is how I read Jayrah's post, not as a shot at Mad or anyone else for providing content, running forums, being a GC, etc. It isn't a shot at them for what they do, as what happens isn't their fault........what happens with the game rests squarely on EA and them either taking feedback or not.
Really doesn't matter in the big picture.

And yes, I'm hoping the demo shows out well tomorrow, I'm looking forward to getting some good NCAA time in with all the hopefully good updates. The series needs what the OS article spells out, so crossing fingers. Well, that and some D revamping still.......and ability to purposely throw in the dirt.......

[Tryhard Nation]

First, I think it's pretty poor form to bash a guy who spent the majority of his time at E3 (and since) providing the community with some of the only video we've got of the game. You can say you don't think he's a good player and that's fine but to question his status as a game changer is off base IMO. By taking the time to upload all of these videos he has shown why he is a game changer. He cares greatly about the NCAA community and goes out of his way to represent them and give them as much back as he can.

Second, not every game changer is there to provide direct feedback on gameplay. Mad started organizing huge multi-player dynasties when you still had to save off the file to a memory card once you finished your game and then send that file to the next guy so he could play his game. He knows everything there is to know about the struggles of running an online dynasty & his feedback probably has a lot to do with the current online dynasty feature even existing.

I would check your facts before you start "biting the hand that feeds you" so to speak. But what the hell do I know? :D

+1

[Kwizzy]

Kwizzy, good response and I :+1: it. Just so it is known, it doesn't bother me one bit that Mad or anyone else is a GC. They've done the content work to be given that role by EA and good on them. The other behind-the-scene stuff doesn't matter anymore and is what it is. At the same time, doesn't matter if it is a GC, just some guy off the street, or a forum regular......if the way they are playing is suspect, then it shows. That is how I read Jayrah's post, not as a shot at Mad or anyone else for providing content, running forums, being a GC, etc. It isn't a shot at them for what they do, as what happens isn't their fault........what happens with the game rests squarely on EA and them either taking feedback or not.
Really doesn't matter in the big picture.

And yes, I'm hoping the demo shows out well tomorrow, I'm looking forward to getting some good NCAA time in with all the hopefully good updates. The series needs what the OS article spells out, so crossing fingers. Well, that and some D revamping still.......and ability to purposely throw in the dirt.......

Yeah I guess this is the part I took issue with:

Makes me wonder how the F some of these clowns become "game-changers" and also makes me realize why the game doesn't "change" as quickly as we want Some of the more "major" ones are as cheesy as they come

I promise you that the gameplay team wants to eliminate as much cheese as they can (the way Mad or othe GCs play the game isn't going to affect that), what actually gets done is another story and I'll leave it at that. :D

[no1geemoney]

has anyone put the skills trainer on youtube..cant watch it on my iphone

[AustinWolv]

Yeah I guess this is the part I took issue with:
Makes me wonder how the F some of these clowns become "game-changers" and also makes me realize why the game doesn't "change" as quickly as we want Some of the more "major" ones are as cheesy as they come
I promise you that the gameplay team wants to eliminate as much cheese as they can (the way Mad or othe GCs play the game isn't going to affect that), what actually gets done is another story and I'll leave it at that.

I hear ya after reading that again. Glossed over it originally as the part in bold is what I consider to be on EA's shoulders, not GC or anyone else. Especially given that I recall sending feedback way back when that didn't seem to be acknowledged or someone like OneBack providing very detailed technical defensive responsibilities, etc. and still not seeing that stuff adopted over many years. {shrug}

All in all, that is why I like interacting with NEB fans, they are reasonable and civil whenever been in discussions or at games with them. Thanks.

[jello1717]

has anyone put the skills trainer on youtube..cant watch it on my iphone


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iz1Dasn-ZFY

[JBHuskers]

I'm not going to comment about the ridiculous things that were said earlier today. Kwizzy handled that well. Just remember if it wasn't for him, you would have had NOTHING in terms of pre-demo gameplay videos.

[GatorfanStovy]

Dang look at blocking on all them plays wow! Options is gonna be hard to stop and fun to use. That is a tutorial though. Great for first time people into the NCAA series. I'm really NCAA is gonna beat out Madden this year.

[d2721]

QUE?

[morsdraconis]

I'm not going to comment about the ridiculous things that were said earlier today. Kwizzy handled that well. Just remember if it wasn't for him, you would have had NOTHING in terms of pre-demo gameplay videos.

(shrugs)

I wouldn't care one way or another JB. I learned nothing from watching him play. It's impossible to learn anything when the person playing doesn't do anything besides the same old cheesy bullshit that everyone else does instead of playing it like a real game. Learned nothing about defending the CPU's triple option when he stays in Dime 4-2-6 the whole time against a 3 WR Navy Set. Learned nothing about the playbook that Georgia State has because he choose some stupid multiples playbook. Learned nothing about the 4-3 Multiples and 3-4 Multiples defensive playbooks because he never chose them. Learned nothing about the CPU pass defense because he never changed the play at the line of scrimmage based on coverages and alignments. He only went 4 WR to run fuckin' 4 verts.

The ONLY thing I learned is the triple option for the CPU is still fucked because they don't give the FB the amount of touches he should be getting because EA still doesn't have enough variation on the plays that force the defense to commit to someone else on the option besides the FB. The Wings still get the ball WAY too much because the defense focuses on the inside handoff WAY more than it should, followed by immediately crashing to stop the QB, and thus allowing 12-15 yard runs with the Wingbacks. The only time the CPU was able to stop the human player running the option (granted, on default All-American), was when the human player stupidly ran it toward a side that didn't have enough blockers.

So, JB, I do take offense when someone like that provides video with nothing worth garnering from it because, clearly, he isn't as in depth with the game as I'd like him to be. Nothing is gained from 3 and 4 WR Vert plays, Big formation sweeps and off tackle plays, and all cheesy bullshit. That's not how you should be playing the game, and, if it is, you shouldn't be a gamechanger who has input on changing things in the game. It's stupid shit like that that made me stop playing against humans because people just can't stand to lose. It's great what he's doing for the community, but when that includes useless shit like these videos, I'm less appreciative of what he's doing.

[JBHuskers]

Well it's not like EA brokered him to do these videos. He went out there on his own dime and provided these videos on his own.

Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 4 Beta

[SCClassof93]

(shrugs)

I wouldn't care one way or another JB. I learned nothing from watching him play. It's impossible to learn anything when the person playing doesn't do anything besides the same old cheesy bullshit that everyone else does instead of playing it like a real game. Learned nothing about defending the CPU's triple option when he stays in Dime 4-2-6 the whole time against a 3 WR Navy Set. Learned nothing about the playbook that Georgia State has because he choose some stupid multiples playbook. Learned nothing about the 4-3 Multiples and 3-4 Multiples defensive playbooks because he never chose them. Learned nothing about the CPU pass defense because he never changed the play at the line of scrimmage based on coverages and alignments. He only went 4 WR to run fuckin' 4 verts.

The ONLY thing I learned is the triple option for the CPU is still fucked because they don't give the FB the amount of touches he should be getting because EA still doesn't have enough variation on the plays that force the defense to commit to someone else on the option besides the FB. The Wings still get the ball WAY too much because the defense focuses on the inside handoff WAY more than it should, followed by immediately crashing to stop the QB, and thus allowing 12-15 yard runs with the Wingbacks. The only time the CPU was able to stop the human player running the option (granted, on default All-American), was when the human player stupidly ran it toward a side that didn't have enough blockers.

So, JB, I do take offense when someone like that provides video with nothing worth garnering from it because, clearly, he isn't as in depth with the game as I'd like him to be. Nothing is gained from 3 and 4 WR Vert plays, Big formation sweeps and off tackle plays, and all cheesy bullshit. That's not how you should be playing the game, and, if it is, you shouldn't be a gamechanger who has input on changing things in the game. It's stupid shit like that that made me stop playing against humans because people just can't stand to lose. It's great what he's doing for the community, but when that includes useless shit like these videos, I'm less appreciative of what he's doing.

I don't think (may be wrong) your criticism is in question here Mors. I don't remember you calling anyone a clown or assuming that "clowns" are the reason the game is not as "we" expect. Cheese is cheese no doubt but name calling gets us nowhere.

[SCClassof93]

Well it's not like EA brokered him to do these videos. He went out there on his own dime and provided these videos on his own.

Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 4 Beta

Yep :nod:

[gschwendt]

Mors, if you watch the Georgia Tech vs West Virginia videos, particularly the 2nd & 3rd quarters, you definitely see the CPU FB get a bunch of carries with good success. He hasn't busted any long ones while I'm watching but is pulling off 7 yard carries with consistency.

[jello1717]

The ONLY thing I learned is the triple option for the CPU is still fucked because they don't give the FB the amount of touches he should be getting because EA still doesn't have enough variation on the plays that force the defense to commit to someone else on the option besides the FB. The Wings still get the ball WAY too much because the defense focuses on the inside handoff WAY more than it should, followed by immediately crashing to stop the QB, and thus allowing 12-15 yard runs with the Wingbacks. The only time the CPU was able to stop the human player running the option (granted, on default All-American), was when the human player stupidly ran it toward a side that didn't have enough blockersIt sounds like you missed this post:
In Q1 of the GT video, on GT's (CPU's) first play @ 9:08 the OLB stays at home so the QB gives it to the B back.

EDIT:
In the 1st half GT ran a few passes, 1 speed or load option (which didn't involve the B back) and 7 options that did involve the B back. The B back carried the ball on the first 5 of those 7 options.

EDIT2:

Here's the B back's final stats (his backup had at least 1 carry too).

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt214/jello1717/SMU%20OD/GTFB_zps706da28b.png

[no1geemoney]

hey when are they going to tell us what teams are on the demo

[souljahbill]

Damn it! I JUST got Animal Crossing on the 3DS! I was gonna wait on '14 but damn it, this looks like the best version of all time! My playbook will be FULL of option plays out of shotgun and pistol.

[JBHuskers]

hey when are they going to tell us what teams are on the demo

Probably today. Not 100% sure though.

[Tryhard Nation]

Play a season news today am u right?

[RussellW65]

I would like to say Thanks to whomever took the videos and posted them. Many of us appreciate it. Are there things I would like to see that aren't in the videos? Of course but seeing the videos just wet my appetite for the games arrival. There is enough in them to keep me interested

[Kwizzy]

(shrugs)

I wouldn't care one way or another JB. I learned nothing from watching him play. It's impossible to learn anything when the person playing doesn't do anything besides the same old cheesy bullshit that everyone else does instead of playing it like a real game. Learned nothing about defending the CPU's triple option when he stays in Dime 4-2-6 the whole time against a 3 WR Navy Set. Learned nothing about the playbook that Georgia State has because he choose some stupid multiples playbook. Learned nothing about the 4-3 Multiples and 3-4 Multiples defensive playbooks because he never chose them. Learned nothing about the CPU pass defense because he never changed the play at the line of scrimmage based on coverages and alignments. He only went 4 WR to run fuckin' 4 verts.

The ONLY thing I learned is the triple option for the CPU is still fucked because they don't give the FB the amount of touches he should be getting because EA still doesn't have enough variation on the plays that force the defense to commit to someone else on the option besides the FB. The Wings still get the ball WAY too much because the defense focuses on the inside handoff WAY more than it should, followed by immediately crashing to stop the QB, and thus allowing 12-15 yard runs with the Wingbacks. The only time the CPU was able to stop the human player running the option (granted, on default All-American), was when the human player stupidly ran it toward a side that didn't have enough blockers.

So, JB, I do take offense when someone like that provides video with nothing worth garnering from it because, clearly, he isn't as in depth with the game as I'd like him to be. Nothing is gained from 3 and 4 WR Vert plays, Big formation sweeps and off tackle plays, and all cheesy bullshit. That's not how you should be playing the game, and, if it is, you shouldn't be a gamechanger who has input on changing things in the game. It's stupid shit like that that made me stop playing against humans because people just can't stand to lose. It's great what he's doing for the community, but when that includes useless shit like these videos, I'm less appreciative of what he's doing.

You're making the mistake of assuming everyone wants the same game you do when in fact the vast majority of people who play this game don't. We are the minority. FACT. Everyone doesn't know real football schemes and DOESN'T CARE TO KNOW THEM! EA is trying to walk a line between implementing real life schemes & interactions while still keeping the game fun for the bulk of their fan base who truly doesn't give a shit about where a safety lines up in cover 2 against a certain formation.

Now EA is slowly getting around to many of the things we have all been asking for for quite a while and I agree with you that it probably hasn't happened quick enough for our liking but, If you think the devs who directly make the game have the say in what they get to add each year think again. Do you get the final say at your job? Doubt it.

I think there is a way to accommodate both groups at the same time & IMO the changes we are hearing about and seeing some evidence of in these videos points towards EA heading in that direction.

[ram29jackson]

(shrugs)

I wouldn't care one way or another JB. I learned nothing from watching him play. It's impossible to learn anything when the person playing doesn't do anything besides the same old cheesy bullshit that everyone else does instead of playing it like a real game. Learned nothing about defending the CPU's triple option when he stays in Dime 4-2-6 the whole time against a 3 WR Navy Set. Learned nothing about the playbook that Georgia State has because he choose some stupid multiples playbook. Learned nothing about the 4-3 Multiples and 3-4 Multiples defensive playbooks because he never chose them. Learned nothing about the CPU pass defense because he never changed the play at the line of scrimmage based on coverages and alignments. He only went 4 WR to run fuckin' 4 verts.

The ONLY thing I learned is the triple option for the CPU is still fucked because they don't give the FB the amount of touches he should be getting because EA still doesn't have enough variation on the plays that force the defense to commit to someone else on the option besides the FB. The Wings still get the ball WAY too much because the defense focuses on the inside handoff WAY more than it should, followed by immediately crashing to stop the QB, and thus allowing 12-15 yard runs with the Wingbacks. The only time the CPU was able to stop the human player running the option (granted, on default All-American), was when the human player stupidly ran it toward a side that didn't have enough blockers.

So, JB, I do take offense when someone like that provides video with nothing worth garnering from it because, clearly, he isn't as in depth with the game as I'd like him to be. Nothing is gained from 3 and 4 WR Vert plays, Big formation sweeps and off tackle plays, and all cheesy bullshit. That's not how you should be playing the game, and, if it is, you shouldn't be a gamechanger who has input on changing things in the game. It's stupid shit like that that made me stop playing against humans because people just can't stand to lose. It's great what he's doing for the community, but when that includes useless shit like these videos, I'm less appreciative of what he's doing.

LOL 90 % of the people who buy the game play the way he does/did. People just want to see color content and he provided that.Besides, who can confirm who was holding the camera/phone and who was playing the game ?

every time you look at the bottom of the main forum page you always see 3 times more guests than so called members.

the public majority just wants to come and see when is the game coming out get some colorful content and be on their merry way.
no one gives a damn about in depth analyzed football strategy stuff or AI deficient break downs.

[Kwizzy]

LOL 90 % of the people who buy the game play the way he does/did. People just want to see color content and he provided that.Besides, who can confirm who was holding the camera/phone and who was playing the game ?

every time you look at the bottom of the main forum page you always see 3 times more guests than so called members.

the public majority just wants to come and see when is the game coming out get some colorful content and be on their merry way.
no one gives a damn about in depth analyzed football strategy stuff or AI deficient break downs.

While you're right that the majority of the people who play the game feel the way you said, the overwhelming majority here on this site do care about that stuff, myself included.

[ram29jackson]

While you're right that the majority of the people who play the game feel the way you said, the overwhelming majority here on this site do care about that stuff, myself included.

:) point being the overwhelming majority here is still the smaller number

[Kwizzy]

:) point being the overwhelming majority here is still the smaller number

Yes it is, but to sit on this site & say that "no one gives a damn about in depth analyzed football strategy stuff or AI deficient break downs" is pretty off base.

[ram29jackson]

Yes it is, but to sit on this site & say that "no one gives a damn about in depth analyzed football strategy stuff or AI deficient break downs" is pretty off base.

:) I was talking about the other larger majority obviously.

[SCClassof93]

:) I was talking about the other larger majority obviously.

More than one majority now :D

[gschwendt]

OS: NCAA Football 14 Equipment
http://www.operationsports.com/news/638591/ncaa-football-14-video-equipment-revealed/

[SmoothPancakes]

LOL 90 % of the people who buy the game play the way he does/did. People just want to see color content and he provided that.Besides, who can confirm who was holding the camera/phone and who was playing the game ?

every time you look at the bottom of the main forum page you always see 3 times more guests than so called members.

the public majority just wants to come and see when is the game coming out get some colorful content and be on their merry way.
no one gives a damn about in depth analyzed football strategy stuff or AI deficient break downs.


:) point being the overwhelming majority here is still the smaller number


:) I was talking about the other larger majority obviously.

:ram?:

[ram29jackson]

The team is working hard to make sure we can import NCAA Football 14 draft class rosters into next-gen Madden NFL 25. It has already been confirmed that you can import draft classes on current-gen this year.

[ram29jackson]

While those are good signs, controlling a defensive end or tackle continues to be a disappointment. I did get a couple of sacks with a DE, but most of the time I was getting stonewalled in place, never getting a sniff at the quarterback. I had no luck at all with the DT. You can tell the blocking in the running game was worked on more than the blocking in the passing game, but that is not to say I didn't see any improvements in the pass blocking. It was just less noticeable.

OS hands on review

[JBHuskers]

:) I was talking about the other larger majority obviously.

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s159/jbennett98/GIFS/coleman_wtf.gif

[SCClassof93]

More video on Ultimate Team. This is new to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEq156Y7sew&feature=player_embedded

[JBHuskers]

If the games are shortened to where I can get in and out like FIFA, I will give this a very fair shot.

[SCClassof93]

If the games are shortened to where I can get in and out like FIFA, I will give this a very fair shot.

That vid finally brought this mode to my attention, looks interesting:nod:.

[ram29jackson]

That vid finally brought this mode to my attention, looks interesting:nod:.

as the end showed, you can play against people online or they have a ton of games against just the AI to gain coins n cards. As the season progresses they'll add different themed games against the AI

[Rudy]

The OS preview does raise my hopes for this game. Trying to keep my expectations low and am looking forward to the demo. Of course my wife got me The Last of Us for father's day and I'm trying to get time in for that too. #firstworldproblems

Edit: Not sure why my first read post skipped over the OS preview.

[bdoughty]

:) I was talking about the other larger majority obviously.

http://i.imgur.com/fCSkcSI.jpg

[Jayrah]

Nothin' they do to ultimate team will make me want to play it... Nothing. :D

[SmoothPancakes]

http://i.imgur.com/fCSkcSI.jpg

Nah, that's just the majority. This is the larger majority. :D

http://cdn.ksk.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/steelersfan.jpg

[bdoughty]

Not where I live.

[morsdraconis]

Nothin' they do to ultimate team will make me want to play it... Nothing. :D

I concur. Talk about a waste of time. :smh:

[bdoughty]

I concur. Talk about a waste of time. :smh:

Same here. Never played any of the others, could care less about creating some super team. That said there are plenty of people with too much free time and money who will make it worthwhile for EA.

[steelerfan]

Damn, this thread is FULL of :ram?: today. :fp:

I'm using Tapatalk 2 and the Cleveland Browns STILL suck.

[Deuce]

Random question...when does the season ticket version become available? Friday July 5th or the 6th?


Typed by thumbs.

[gschwendt]

Random question...when does the season ticket version become available? Friday July 5th or the 6th?


Typed by thumbs.

July 5th at 6pm ET I believe.

[ram29jackson]

I concur. Talk about a waste of time. :smh:

:P there ya go again.

I don't waste money on it but I kind of like the fantasy concept it has.

but even sports video games need more than one mode to keep people entertained.

And I still say they are missing a great idea by not putting Mascot mash up into head to head online matches :up:

[bdoughty]

And I still say they are missing a great idea by not putting Mascot mash up into head to head online matches :up:

Great ideas are often limited to the beholder of said great idea. Me thinks that is the case here.

[Jayrah]

Kwizzy, good response and I :+1: it. Just so it is known, it doesn't bother me one bit that Mad or anyone else is a GC. They've done the content work to be given that role by EA and good on them. The other behind-the-scene stuff doesn't matter anymore and is what it is. At the same time, doesn't matter if it is a GC, just some guy off the street, or a forum regular......if the way they are playing is suspect, then it shows. That is how I read Jayrah's post, not as a shot at Mad or anyone else for providing content, running forums, being a GC, etc. It isn't a shot at them for what they do, as what happens isn't their fault........what happens with the game rests squarely on EA and them either taking feedback or not.
Really doesn't matter in the big picture.

And yes, I'm hoping the demo shows out well tomorrow, I'm looking forward to getting some good NCAA time in with all the hopefully good updates. The series needs what the OS article spells out, so crossing fingers. Well, that and some D revamping still.......and ability to purposely throw in the dirt.......


Yeah I guess this is the part I took issue with:


I promise you that the gameplay team wants to eliminate as much cheese as they can (the way Mad or othe GCs play the game isn't going to affect that), what actually gets done is another story and I'll leave it at that. :DYeah sorry to MadSci for the inadvertent shot :blush: That wasn't my intention at all! I realize he's put in the time and such to be at the event and his efforts to upload video's and the like are GREATLY APPRECIATED by both myself and obviously the entire community. So let me rephrase; Makes me wonder why, while being a gamechanger, and knowing about the cheese that irritates people and talking about "real football" all the time on his forums and such... WHY, he plays a little cheese-ball? :D I would think that with all the time talking about issues like 4 verts and such would help him avoid it in a community play video, as opposed to going to money plays all day from 13 (like a spread counter on the goal line??? Really? Let us see the interaction with the force impact collision stuff there). I don't even know if there was an out-route or drag thrown and they were something I was looking for. I don't mind that he plays the way he plays because that's up to him, but I would think that he'd want to try every route at least once, a few different runs, screens, see if the slide actually works this season for the scrambling qb, etc. Goes to all the trouble to find teams that everybody wants and then doesn't do as much as he could with it I guess is my issue. But again, the efforts to be there for the community to get footage and not just be there for himself is truly selfless and I think we all appreciate that.

Far as the gameplay team goes, the fact that year after year we DO have players showing the weaknesses of something like a 4-Verts on these gamechanger vids and they STILL aren't fixed has me going :bang:. I simply don't understand how you can allow your game to continuously give up the most used play ever and say that you want to get rid of the Cheese :confused:. Nope, it's going to be tough to get me to believe that you really care about getting rid of that stuff while telling us that you have to strike a balance with the "casual gamer". Don't give me that! The "casual gamer" is only casual because you allow him/her to be! If you made football like football I guarantee you the "casual gamer" would catch on and play it just like they do now. Football is the most fun sport of all (or at least in most people's minds), which is exactly why it is America's most loved sport! Make the game of football the way hardcore footballers need, then tune out some of the more "hardcore" features like penalties and such and call it "casual" mode, instead of worrying about things like Season Showdown and the like.

I'm sick of the excuse that it has to cater to the "casual" fan. It's just a shot at the intelligence of gamers that play the game for a month and then move on. Maybe if you made it challenging and made the game play like real football more people would WANT to play it year round. I'll say it again, look at the FPS players all over the age map and how quickly they process things in their games and all they want is more realistic, faster and less clunky. Your average "casual" gamers are like monsters when challenged to play the "real" game of whatever it is they are playing. Just because the kids don't come on the message boards doesn't mean they aren't into a real game of football that caters to hardcore football fans. I'm still not sure I've actually met a casual football fan in real life that wasn't a girl. For them, there's still mascot mode... yes?

[SCClassof93]

:P there ya go again.

I don't waste money on it but I kind of like the fantasy concept it has.

but even sports video games need more than one mode to keep people entertained.

And I still say they are missing a great idea by not putting Mascot mash up into head to head online matches :up:

Really? Don't think a sock fetish is what we should worry about :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzZoJfB1_Io

[countryboy]

any information provided as to how the cpu handles late game situations, ex: playcalling and use of timeouts?

[Deuce]

July 5th at 6pm ET I believe.

:up:!!


Typed by thumbs.

[Escobar]

Nothin' they do to ultimate team will make me want to play it... Nothing. :D

ditto

[Rudy]

I tweeted Steve, asking if he had more fun with NCAA 14 or Madden 25 and he said NCAA for the first time in awhile. He preferred the option and the co-ordinator cam.

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[Jahswill]

Yeah sorry to MadSci for the inadvertent shot :blush: That wasn't my intention at all! I realize he's put in the time and such to be at the event and his efforts to upload video's and the like are GREATLY APPRECIATED by both myself and obviously the entire community. So let me rephrase; Makes me wonder why, while being a gamechanger, and knowing about the cheese that irritates people and talking about "real football" all the time on his forums and such... WHY, he plays a little cheese-ball? :D I would think that with all the time talking about issues like 4 verts and such would help him avoid it in a community play video, as opposed to going to money plays all day from 13 (like a spread counter on the goal line??? Really? Let us see the interaction with the force impact collision stuff there). I don't even know if there was an out-route or drag thrown and they were something I was looking for. I don't mind that he plays the way he plays because that's up to him, but I would think that he'd want to try every route at least once, a few different runs, screens, see if the slide actually works this season for the scrambling qb, etc. Goes to all the trouble to find teams that everybody wants and then doesn't do as much as he could with it I guess is my issue. But again, the efforts to be there for the community to get footage and not just be there for himself is truly selfless and I think we all appreciate that.

Far as the gameplay team goes, the fact that year after year we DO have players showing the weaknesses of something like a 4-Verts on these gamechanger vids and they STILL aren't fixed has me going :bang:. I simply don't understand how you can allow your game to continuously give up the most used play ever and say that you want to get rid of the Cheese :confused:. Nope, it's going to be tough to get me to believe that you really care about getting rid of that stuff while telling us that you have to strike a balance with the "casual gamer". Don't give me that! The "casual gamer" is only casual because you allow him/her to be! If you made football like football I guarantee you the "casual gamer" would catch on and play it just like they do now. Football is the most fun sport of all (or at least in most people's minds), which is exactly why it is America's most loved sport! Make the game of football the way hardcore footballers need, then tune out some of the more "hardcore" features like penalties and such and call it "casual" mode, instead of worrying about things like Season Showdown and the like.

I'm sick of the excuse that it has to cater to the "casual" fan. It's just a shot at the intelligence of gamers that play the game for a month and then move on. Maybe if you made it challenging and made the game play like real football more people would WANT to play it year round. I'll say it again, look at the FPS players all over the age map and how quickly they process things in their games and all they want is more realistic, faster and less clunky. Your average "casual" gamers are like monsters when challenged to play the "real" game of whatever it is they are playing. Just because the kids don't come on the message boards doesn't mean they aren't into a real game of football that caters to hardcore football fans. I'm still not sure I've actually met a casual football fan in real life that wasn't a girl. For them, there's still mascot mode... yes?

Maybe, he was trying to show the community that running four verts all game won't be a successful offensive strategy this year.

[jaymo76]

any information provided as to how the cpu handles late game situations, ex: playcalling and use of timeouts?

Yup, this is of crucial concern. The 1 minute remaining time out drove me crazy last year. 3rd and 14 from you 20 with 9 seconds left... cpu runs a shot gun draw play...

[gschwendt]

any information provided as to how the cpu handles late game situations, ex: playcalling and use of timeouts?

Yup, this is of crucial concern. The 1 minute remaining time out drove me crazy last year. 3rd and 14 from you 20 with 9 seconds left... cpu runs a shot gun draw play...
In March it was still very much a major issue but after we got back, I got word that they found a bug that was causing the issue. My expectations are that, at least in late game situations, it should be drastically improved.

[ram29jackson]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_hf05UqNEs

[Jayrah]

Maybe, he was trying to show the community that running four verts all game won't be a successful offensive strategy this year.
I mentioned this in the first post that it was a possibility, except he found that it did work most of the time and then went back to it when he needed a first down. Also, he never threw to the outside receiver, he always found the inside guy who was generally WIDE open and threw it immediately. Regardless, I'm more upset that EA allows it to still happen, because they say every year "Oh yeah we want to stop the cheese", yet they never address the one play that gets abused in every cheesy game imaginable. Just like, "Oh yeah you'll be real happy with equipment this year", but then they don't give us the facemask that literally EVERYBODY has been requesting since the end of last season. Really clutch EA. :deadhorse:

[gschwendt]

More videos from MadScientist, this time Akron at Maryland with a video with NCAA Dev Christian McLeod.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_hf05UqNEs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6R2Uvykw7w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74tO9_HD7vI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5DeONyYzLQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHod7f4BZSk

[jello1717]

Just like, "Oh yeah you'll be real happy with equipment this year", but then they don't give us the facemask that literally EVERYBODY has been requesting since the end of last season. Really clutch EA. :deadhorse:I have never requested ANY facemask and I know a lot of others who haven't either so "literally EVERYBODY" is way off.

[JBHuskers]

I have never requested ANY facemask and I know a lot of others who haven't either so "literally EVERYBODY" is way off.

Ditto. Not something that really would upset me. Can list several dozen things ahead of facemasks, sock, shoes, etc I'd rather have.

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[gschwendt]

The facemask itself not being in doesn't bother me but it is bad form that it has been requested for several years and is considered one of the more popular facemasks in the game. All the while, other facemasks have been added instead. Unfortunately, there are quite a few examples similar to this from Gameplay to Dynasty to Presentation to Equipment... mostly minor things but still things that a sect of fans really want.

[SCClassof93]

Ditto. Not something that really would upset me. Can list several dozen things ahead of facemasks, sock, shoes, etc I'd rather have.

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Yep, medical red shirts for starters.

[JBHuskers]

Yep, medical red shirts for starters.

Helmets and jerseys, definitely, but they could all have 1-bar facemasks for all I care :D

[jello1717]

More videos from MadScientist, this time Akron at Maryland with a video with NCAA Dev Christian McLeod.I'm only 2 minutes into the 1st quarter, but I gotta say that I LOVE MS trying to say "degrades" but instead coming up with "de-gra-dates" and I also love Ben photobombing Christian's interview.

[AustinWolv]

Ditto. Not something that really would upset me. Can list several dozen things ahead of facemasks, sock, shoes, etc I'd rather have.

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:+1:

One of the minor ones years in waiting is ability to intentionally throw the ball into the dirt.

[jello1717]

NICE!

Check out this punt by the CPU @ 5:10 of Q2 of the Akron video. I REALLY hope the CPU can do this more regularly than they did in '13. This is pretty much a perfect punt.

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt214/jello1717/animated%20gifs/CPUpunt_zps7037e072.gif

[Deuce]

NICE!

Check out this punt by the CPU @ 5:10 of Q2 of the Akron video. I REALLY hope the CPU can do this more regularly than they did in '13. This is pretty much a perfect punt.


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[JBHuskers]

:+1:

One of the minor ones years in waiting is ability to intentionally throw the ball into the dirt.

What drove me nuts is the CPU's blatant intentional grounding not being called.

[gschwendt]

For anyone concerned with CPU playcalling in late game situations, check out the 4th quarter of the Akron at Maryland videos... Akron is the CPU and comes back from down 15 in the 4th to tie it. The playcalling and execution is on par with many human players.

[AustinWolv]

What drove me nuts is the CPU's blatant intentional grounding not being called.

I gave up on that one and chalked it up to a gift to the CPU as a "handicap" for being the CPU. :D

[JBHuskers]

For anyone concerned with CPU playcalling in late game situations, check out the 4th quarter of the Akron at Maryland videos... Akron is the CPU and comes back from down 15 in the 4th to tie it. The playcalling and execution is on par with many human players.

Great to see.


I gave up on that one and chalked it up to a gift to the CPU as a "handicap" for being the CPU. :D

True :D

[gschwendt]

Traditions Sports: Fastest Players in NCAA Football 14 (http://traditionsportsonline.com/fastest-players-in-ea-sports-ncaa-football-14)

[jello1717]

The thing I love about the coordinator cam is that it's an "all 22" cam so that I can see all of my receivers, unlike in '13. @ 3:56 of Q3 of the Akron game, the CPU is on the left hash and has trips right. You can't see the outside WR at the start of the play. He runs a streak and from the snap of the ball until the QB throws him the ball, he's never on the screen.

While I've been dying for an "all 22" cam, it looks like in some situations, coordinator cam still isn't it.

[gschwendt]

I think Wide is the closest thing to an All 22 cam, though that is from a low perspective so that has it's own challenges. Will be interesting to try them all out.

[morsdraconis]

He runs the coolest looking option play I've ever seen (the Shovel pass option), but never does the shovel pass portion of it even though Akron went directly for him twice. :(

[AustinWolv]

For anyone concerned with CPU playcalling in late game situations, check out the 4th quarter of the Akron at Maryland videos... Akron is the CPU and comes back from down 15 in the 4th to tie it. The playcalling and execution is on par with many human players.
That is fucking exciting. Can't wait to give it a shot personally and see what happens.


The thing I love about the coordinator cam is that it's an "all 22" cam so that I can see all of my receivers, unlike in '13. @ 3:56 of Q3 of the Akron game, the CPU is on the left hash and has trips right. You can't see the outside WR at the start of the play. He runs a streak and from the snap of the ball until the QB throws him the ball, he's never on the screen.

While I've been dying for an "all 22" cam, it looks like in some situations, coordinator cam still isn't it.
Haven't watched the video as I'm stuck at work, but if you can see the DBs/coverage, doesn't matter *that* much about seeing the WR.........and it should still be better than past versions.
Understand your point though, can't wait to try out coord cam.

[jello1717]

He runs the coolest looking option play I've ever seen (the Shovel pass option), but never does the shovel pass portion of it even though Akron went directly for him twice. :(

Those plays seemed doomed to failure. Both times the pitch reads are the RE and the FS. Both times the RE takes away the RB pitch guy so the correct read is to keep it and then read the next guy to either keep it or pitch to the LB guy. But both times, the impact ROLB flies through untouched and takes out the QB, forcing a pitch to the RB guy. Then the FS (who was supposed to be the 2nd pitch read) comes in to make the tackle.

Both of those plays were blown up by the ROLB who comes through untouched, even though he's not a pitch read.

[jello1717]

That is fucking exciting. Can't wait to give it a shot personally and see what happens.


Haven't watched the video as I'm stuck at work, but if you can see the DBs/coverage, doesn't matter *that* much about seeing the WR.........and it should still be better than past versions.
Understand your point though, can't wait to try out coord cam.In this particular play, you can't see either the WR or the DB. If this were a user and you chose to throw it to that WR, you'd be doing so completely blindly. Even in '13 I don't think I've had a guy completely off the screen for this long.

[Rudy]

Do you guys think All American will be tougher this year and the main difficulty for most people on the forums?

[PDuncanOSU]

At the 4:48 mark of the 3rd Q of the Maryland-Akron game you can see an Inside Zone run, a playaction pass, and a read option in the playcalling screen that all have a similar motion by the TE. Does anyone know how similar plays like this will function together? Do plays "link" similarly to how they did in NCAA13? In NCAA 13 I had trouble getting linked plays to work in a custom playbook.

[morsdraconis]

Do you guys think All American will be tougher this year and the main difficulty for most people on the forums?

From watching MS's videos, absolutely not. The silly stuff he was doing was the reason why those games were as close as they were. He lost to Akron because he went for 2 twice, kept throwing the ball in the 4th quarter after he was up 15-0, and, above all else, PICKED THE SAME DAMN DEFENSE THE WHOLE GAME. I don't know what the fuck his fascination was with the 2-4-6 Dime formation, but good god it's the dumbest thing I've ever seen. I can only hope he was doing it to show how the CPU can take advantage of stupidly choosing the same thing over and over again (I doubt it).

He never throws to his outside receivers unless it's a curl route (the big play he got off that curl route is a pick against a defender that isn't a 60 overall player) and pretty much only targets his TEs or HBs when throwing the ball unless it's over the middle after holding the ball for 4+ seconds. He clearly doesn't read blockers because the first play of the game, it was CRYSTAL clear that the MLB was gonna come untouched up the middle to stop the run before it had a prayer of going anywhere.

So, long story short, no way All-American is gonna be the main difficulty because it's still the pushover that it used to be (at least default wise). I haven't touched a NCAA game in ~2 years and I'm pretty sure I could still throw for 350+ against default All-American with pretty much any team.

[jello1717]

At the 4:48 mark of the 3rd Q of the Maryland-Akron game you can see an Inside Zone run, a playaction pass, and a read option in the playcalling screen that all have a similar motion by the TE. Does anyone know how similar plays like this will function together? Do plays "link" similarly to how they did in NCAA13? In NCAA 13 I had trouble getting linked plays to work in a custom playbook.
I had very few plays that I could set up in my CPB in '13 either. As for your linked plays question, yes the mechanic still exists in '14. There's even a coach skill that improves it.
Setup Artist- Successful run plays will set up the play action pass plays faster and vice-versa.

Level 1: Decreases the yardage needed for Setup Plays by 10%. Choose plays that are in the same formation type (pass or run).

[PDuncanOSU]

At the 4:48 mark of the 3rd Q of the Maryland-Akron game you can see an Inside Zone run, a playaction pass, and a read option in the playcalling screen that all have a similar motion by the TE. Does anyone know how similar plays like this will function together? Do plays "link" similarly to how they did in NCAA13? In NCAA 13 I had trouble getting linked plays to work in a custom playbook.


I had very few plays that I could set up in my CPB in '13 either. As for your linked plays question, yes the mechanic still exists in '14. There's even a coach skill that improves it.

Thanks for the reply. I didn't remember seeing that coach skill. I wonder for this example which one of those run plays will setup the playaction pass? It'd be great if either of the runs would, but I doubt it.

[gschwendt]

I may be wrong but I want to say that to get them to setup in NCAA 13, you actually had to have the plays side by side in the playbook. Again, that may not be correct but hopefully it's fixed for NCAA 14... I know it was discussed while we were there in March but admittedly I was only half listening while concentrating on something else.

[ram29jackson]

He runs the coolest looking option play I've ever seen (the Shovel pass option), but never does the shovel pass portion of it even though Akron went directly for him twice. :(


From watching MS's videos, absolutely not. The silly stuff he was doing was the reason why those games were as close as they were. He lost to Akron because he went for 2 twice, kept throwing the ball in the 4th quarter after he was up 15-0, and, above all else, PICKED THE SAME DAMN DEFENSE THE WHOLE GAME. I don't know what the fuck his fascination was with the 2-4-6 Dime formation, but good god it's the dumbest thing I've ever seen. I can only hope he was doing it to show how the CPU can take advantage of stupidly choosing the same thing over and over again (I doubt it).

He never throws to his outside receivers unless it's a curl route (the big play he got off that curl route is a pick against a defender that isn't a 60 overall player) and pretty much only targets his TEs or HBs when throwing the ball unless it's over the middle after holding the ball for 4+ seconds. He clearly doesn't read blockers because the first play of the game, it was CRYSTAL clear that the MLB was gonna come untouched up the middle to stop the run before it had a prayer of going anywhere.

So, long story short, no way All-American is gonna be the main difficulty because it's still the pushover that it used to be (at least default wise). I haven't touched a NCAA game in ~2 years and I'm pretty sure I could still throw for 350+ against default All-American with pretty much any team.

http://forums.gingerscraps.net/images/smilies/smileyvault-cute-big-smiley-animated-060.gif
hehehe

[jello1717]

I may be wrong but I want to say that to get them to setup in NCAA 13, you actually had to have the plays side by side in the playbook. Again, that may not be correct but hopefully it's fixed for NCAA 14... I know it was discussed while we were there in March but admittedly I was only half listening while concentrating on something else.
In my CPB all of my formations are ordered like this from left to right, top to bottom:

HB runs
QB runs
WR runs
Options
PA passes
screens
short passes
medium passes
deep passes

and while I rarely had setup up plays, I'm 90% sure that some of the rare setup plays I had weren't side by side (or even on the same page) in my pb.

[PDuncanOSU]

I may be wrong but I want to say that to get them to setup in NCAA 13, you actually had to have the plays side by side in the playbook. Again, that may not be correct but hopefully it's fixed for NCAA 14... I know it was discussed while we were there in March but admittedly I was only half listening while concentrating on something else.

I made sure the plays that I thought should link were always side by side but it still wouldn't always work in my custom book in '13. There's a good chance it was just user error though, with me thinking plays should link that really weren't.

Anyway, for NCAA 14... I'm excited to learn in the demo and real game how the personnel-based play calling works both when huddling and no-huddle, if formation audibles are any different and how the linked plays will work. These will all affect getting my no-huddle spread-option set up how I want.

[Escobar]

In NCAA '13 I used a custom playbook and routinely got plays to be setup w/o having them next to each other. I just put my plays into my playbook and didn't even worry about ordering them. Sometimes after having a big play I would get the Setup play highlight coming up. I think most people can't get them to work, because it is often plays that you wouldn't think are the setup/linked plays.

[cdj]

While at E3, Shopmaster was kind enough to ask for some community questions about NCAA 14. Due to time constraints, he wasn't able to get to all of them but he did get to ask three:

- More on Dynamic Impact Players: New to Dynasty Mode, your Impact Players will change throughout the season based upon their stats compared to conference & national leaders. (I'm not sure when or how often it checks or changes them, however.) This feature has been mentioned in passing a few times, but yet to be detailed by EA.

- Some info on EA's plans to release more uniforms throughout the year compared to last year.

- If you are a Season Ticket subscriber, your NCAA Football perk will be Ultimate Team packs. (Not a huge surprise, but EA has yet to formally announce it.)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uCvxd9GF1Y

[Escobar]

Looks like I won't be getting Season Ticket this year. I will be out of town that weekend and Ultimate Team doesn't interest me at all.

[ram29jackson]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIPJgENh1FU

[ram29jackson]

Beaver teeth on a helmet ? haha

[bdoughty]

Beaver teeth on a helmet ? haha

You are on the West coast and I assume get a lot of PAC-12 games? Been the same helmet for 10+ years. Less time playing Dress Up, more time watching football.

http://i.imgur.com/SYN8uYD.jpg

[ram29jackson]

You are on the West coast and I assume get a lot of PAC-12 games? Been the same helmet for 10+ years. Less time playing with Dress Up, more time watching football.

http://i.imgur.com/SYN8uYD.jpg

nope they have different helmets this time around and a bigger beaver

[Jayrah]

nope they have different helmets this time around and a bigger beaver
That video has the old helmet though....