Gamezone: NCAA Football 14 Will Not Have the College Football Playoff

[gschwendt]

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Fans of the EASPORTS NCAA Football series have long asked for some sort of a playoff system in the Dynasty mode, if nothing else than to spice up the postseason play that is run by a pseudo BCS system. Ultimately that decision most likely comes down to the NCAA rather than EASPORTS itself. With the recent announcement of the College Football Playoff, some were hoping that NCAA Football 14 would have a playoff system implemented. Today we find out that it will not.

GameZone.com (http://www.gamezone.com/news/2013/04/25/ncaa-football-14-will-use-the-bcs-as-post-season-play) received word from an EA Representative that said NCAA Football 14 will continue to use the BCS as post-season play.

"The BCS will continue as the post-season format for all years of Dynasty," an EA representative told me on behalf of NCAA Football 14 producer Ben Haumiller.

"We don’t yet have all the info about how the playoff system will work, including who will make up the selection committee and what their criteria will be for picking the playoff teams, and it’s our policy to not include anything in-game that hasn’t been approved and finalized by the NCAA," he explained.

With the real-life details still to be ironed out, it comes as little suprirse at this point seeing as how in order to implement something like this, EA would have to have had details in place months ago and even then, would have to have the BCS system for use as the first season while the playoffs took over after that.

The article considers that a playoff system could be patched in but don't expect it considering that it would essentially require double-duty for EA to implement that... implement it in NCAA 14 with what little details are known, then correct the changes that are needed for NCAA 15. Instead, they could just implement it once, correctly, in NCAA 15.

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[JBHuskers]

Not a surprise.

[onikuno]

Would have been interesting if they could have used the old bowl system as an alternative?

[SmoothPancakes]

Not a surprise.

This. Thank god, we can finally end all the playoffs talk for NCAA '14, as myself and others have been pretty much saying there was no way in hell it would be in this year for weeks now. There, dagger officially through the heart on that for '14. Now we can move on.

[Jayrah]

... And really not a big deal. At least to me

[Noles94]

My thoughts, originally posted elsewhere. I think it would have been nice to at least have the option to select playoffs. At least in the 2014 season. Here is what I said:

I feel what you are saying and I'm not usually the guy who complains a lot. However, on this I have to disagree. If EA had spent the entirety of this console generation focusing on getting everything exactly right and as realistic as possible I'd say yeah they shouldn't have things just thrown in and reworked the next year. But they do that with other aspects of the game every year. There are camera angles that don't exist in real life broadcasts. You can add and subtract teams, build up to a conference championship game, etc. via custom conferences without following the exact way it is done in real life. (I've yet to vote on any grant of rights or relinquished my tier 3 TV rights yet, :)

Recruiting, a huge part of dynasty, is nothing like real life. EA simply came up with their own method that tries to incorporate some real life aspects. In Dynasty we don't get a vote in the coaches poll if we are the HC of a team. How they come up with the poll results, as well as the media poll is unknown. Their BCS formula is not the same as the one used in the real world.

I could go on, but the point is that wanting them to implement an algorithm to select four teams based on ranking, SOS, and three or four other criteria, then tweaking it next year for NCAA 15 so that it perfectly represents the way it will be next season doesn't seem so far fetched. We (the buying public) still won't know for sure how the algorithm and criteria analysis will work under the hood next year to mimic the real life selection. So adding it this year and creating what they think would go into it wouldn't have bothered people as much as moving into the 2014 season in Dynasty and still being locked into the BCS format will.

Not a deal-breaker for me, but I did hope they would have added it into this year's game.

[countryboy]

Not surprised.

I don't view it as a big deal to be honest. Would it be nice as an option??? Of course the more options the better.

However, I could see where this would be difficult to program where one year the game is supposed to use the old format and then the following years it needs to choose the playoff contenders using an entirely different code.

My feeling is that had they tried to do that, we would be left with potentially buggy results.

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[CLW]

Not surprised but disappointed as it wouldn't be "hard" to give the option for a 4 team tourny to end the season.

[JBHuskers]

My thoughts, originally posted elsewhere. I think it would have been nice to at least have the option to select playoffs. At least in the 2014 season. Here is what I said:

I feel what you are saying and I'm not usually the guy who complains a lot. However, on this I have to disagree. If EA had spent the entirety of this console generation focusing on getting everything exactly right and as realistic as possible I'd say yeah they shouldn't have things just thrown in and reworked the next year. But they do that with other aspects of the game every year. There are camera angles that don't exist in real life broadcasts. You can add and subtract teams, build up to a conference championship game, etc. via custom conferences without following the exact way it is done in real life. (I've yet to vote on any grant of rights or relinquished my tier 3 TV rights yet, :)

Recruiting, a huge part of dynasty, is nothing like real life. EA simply came up with their own method that tries to incorporate some real life aspects. In Dynasty we don't get a vote in the coaches poll if we are the HC of a team. How they come up with the poll results, as well as the media poll is unknown. Their BCS formula is not the same as the one used in the real world.

I could go on, but the point is that wanting them to implement an algorithm to select four teams based on ranking, SOS, and three or four other criteria, then tweaking it next year for NCAA 15 so that it perfectly represents the way it will be next season doesn't seem so far fetched. We (the buying public) still won't know for sure how the algorithm and criteria analysis will work under the hood next year to mimic the real life selection. So adding it this year and creating what they think would go into it wouldn't have bothered people as much as moving into the 2014 season in Dynasty and still being locked into the BCS format will.

Not a deal-breaker for me, but I did hope they would have added it into this year's game.

Here's the deal. The NCAA wouldn't allow it to go in until it's finalized. It's not even finalized yet.

[MC1]

I'm mostly a head 2 head online player, I won't miss it. As a matter of fact, I had forgotten all about it(the playoffs). I'm just looking forward to the new gameplay features, I can wait to see it(the playoff system) when the real thing unfolds this season, then when NC15 hits, I'll have an idea of how it will work.

[dhook27]

Well not that suprised but this game will still be good by the looks of things.

[countryboy]

Not surprised but disappointed as it wouldn't be "hard" to give the option for a 4 team tourny to end the season.

4 team playoffs plus bowls?

If so, I think that would be difficult to program. You would have to re-write the logic on how bowl games are selected plus how the playoff teams are chosen.

[steelerfan]

I'm mostly a head 2 head online player, I won't miss it. As a matter of fact, I had forgotten all about it(the playoffs). I'm just looking forward to the new gameplay features, I can wait to see it(the playoff system) when the real thing unfolds this season, then when NC15 hits, I'll have an idea of how it will work.

Real thing unfolds in the 2014-15 season. Not this year.

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[JBHuskers]

4 team playoffs plus bowls?

If so, I think that would be difficult to program. You would have to re-write the logic on how bowl games are selected plus how the playoff teams are chosen.

Exactly. What people perceive as easy to put in are exactly the opposite.

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[CLW]

4 team playoffs plus bowls?

If so, I think that would be difficult to program. You would have to re-write the logic on how bowl games are selected plus how the playoff teams are chosen.

No simply code the top 4 in the BCS standings into a 4 team playoff played at some neutral bowl game site.

[JBHuskers]

No simply code the top 4 in the BCS standings into a 4 team playoff played at some neutral bowl game site.

That's not how it will be done; hence the NCAA wouldn't allow it.

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[countryboy]

No simply code the top 4 in the BCS standings into a 4 team playoff played at some neutral bowl game site.

I get that, but you would still have to re-write the code for how the BCS bowl games are chosen, which in turn effects the other bowl games.

I understand what you're saying, I truly do, but I don't think its a simple addition to the game.

[joshuahuskers]

The NCAA does not govern the FBS college football post season. So saying the NCAA does not allow it is a farce.

[GatorfanStovy]

It sucks but not a big deal though. Like JB it not even finalized yet to be put into the next game. Next year maybe.

[natetcu]

Even once the selection committee is given orders on what criteria to choose on, those criteria will change the first time a consciences #3 in the AP and Coaches polls gets left out of the tournament. They will be "tweaking" the criteria every other year, until about 2018 when they breakdown and expand to eight teams. Then they will have a huge fight over who the gets left out (how can you take a two loss Texas over a undefeated Ball State?) So it will be 16 teams. Then on to 20 teams with auto-bids for every conference. But there is still a fight over how you can take a 8-4 Alabama over a 9-3 Arizona! So it goes to 24 teams.

The point is the tournament will be extremely dynamic. Conferences were so dynamic that they had to invent custom conferences to try to keep up. They need to invent custom post season, so we can set it up as we see fit.

[Jayrah]

The NCAA does not govern the FBS college football post season. So saying the NCAA does not allow it is a farce.
Untrue. The NCAA governs what is allowed in the game because they own the copyright in order for EA to use their teams and stadiums and all that goes into college football. So they pretty much govern EVERYTHING that goes into the game, when it comes to decisions representing their real life representation. They have to approve things like this. Options for more teams is one thing, but misrepresenting how the NCAA College Football Playoff will take place won't happen.

[JBHuskers]

Untrue. The NCAA governs what is allowed in the game because they own the copyright in order for EA to use their teams and stadiums and all that goes into college football. So they pretty much govern EVERYTHING that goes into the game, when it comes to decisions representing their real life representation. They have to approve things like this. Options for more teams is one thing, but misrepresenting how the NCAA College Football Playoff will take place won't happen.

Exactly.

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[SmoothPancakes]

Which is exactly why something like discipline will never return to the game. With all the issues that have been making news regarding the NCAA and its teams, be it recruiting violations, TattooGate, boosters and illegal money, crimes, drugs, etc, the NCAA will never allow something to do with players committing discipline infractions back into the game, even if its just minute things like someone missing class.

[Jayrah]

Which is exactly why something like discipline will never return to the game. With all the issues that have been making news regarding the NCAA and its teams, be it recruiting violations, TattooGate, boosters and illegal money, crimes, drugs, etc, the NCAA will never allow something to do with players committing discipline infractions back into the game, even if its just minute things like someone missing class.
Another great point

[Noles94]

Which is exactly why something like discipline will never return to the game. With all the issues that have been making news regarding the NCAA and its teams, be it recruiting violations, TattooGate, boosters and illegal money, crimes, drugs, etc, the NCAA will never allow something to do with players committing discipline infractions back into the game, even if its just minute things like someone missing class.


It almost makes me think the game would be better without the license. Just make it fully customizable, via Teambuilder or some other web source. From on-field logos to conference patches, uniforms, stadiums, player editing...everything. They could make the ultimate College Football game without the supposed interference of the NCAA. But then, the game probably would only sell to a small group of hardcores.

[gschwendt]

It almost makes me think the game would be better without the license. Just make it fully customizable, via Teambuilder or some other web source. From on-field logos to conference patches, uniforms, stadiums, player editing...everything. They could make the ultimate College Football game without the supposed interference of the NCAA. But then, the game probably would only sell to a small group of hardcores.
Even if they were to go that route, they wouldn't be able to allow NCAA teams, logos, etc. to be used on TeamBuilder. Just like I know in the past, they've removed NFL designed teams from TB, I would assume they'd have to do the same thing or face lawsuit. I'm sure there are still examples of NFL teams out there now, if they didn't have the license, they would be much more strict with it I'm sure.

[Jayrah]

It almost makes me think the game would be better without the license. Just make it fully customizable, via Teambuilder or some other web source. From on-field logos to conference patches, uniforms, stadiums, player editing...everything. They could make the ultimate College Football game without the supposed interference of the NCAA. But then, the game probably would only sell to a small group of hardcores.


Even if they were to go that route, they wouldn't be able to allow NCAA teams, logos, etc. to be used on TeamBuilder. Just like I know in the past, they've removed NFL designed teams from TB, I would assume they'd have to do the same thing or face lawsuit. I'm sure there are still examples of NFL teams out there now, if they didn't have the license, they would be much more strict with it I'm sure.
The game would be terrible without the license. Couldn't license the songs, couldn't have mascots or traditions or logos. Couldn't do anything with ESPN integration and you'd lose the announcing teams. You'd basically get college Blitz with no team identities

[GatorBait06NC]

Typical EA Lameness.

[GatorBait06NC]

"Lets get all the uniforms in the game and allow you to edit conferences to replicate real life, but not not give you the biggest change in college football since it's beginning" Why am I not surprised here? At least mascot mashup will still be in the game right?

[GatorBait06NC]

It almost makes me think the game would be better without the license. Just make it fully customizable, via Teambuilder or some other web source. From on-field logos to conference patches, uniforms, stadiums, player editing...everything. They could make the ultimate College Football game without the supposed interference of the NCAA. But then, the game probably would only sell to a small group of hardcores.

This is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. The licenses are the only reason this game is made. Without them, nobody would continue to buy this lame, stale, glitched filled product.

[SmoothPancakes]

:fp: :fp: :fp: :bang: :bang: :bang:

[steelerfan]

"Lets get all the uniforms in the game and allow you to edit conferences to replicate real life, but not not give you the biggest change in college football since it's beginning" Why am I not surprised here? At least they got Florida's shoe color right so I can quit my endless bellyache about that stupidity, right?

Fixed.

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[psusnoop]

UNREAL, :smh:

[Jayrah]

"Lets get all the uniforms in the game and allow you to edit conferences to replicate real life, but not not give you the biggest change in college football since it's beginning" Why am I not surprised here? At least mascot mashup will still be in the game right?
Are you still talking about the playoff system that won't be in college football till 2014? Why should they put that in the 2013 version of the game? It will be in the game before we see it IRL, how is that not ok?

[dhook27]

This is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. The licenses are the only reason this game is made. Without them, nobody would continue to buy this lame, stale, glitched filled product.
typical mindless EA basher

[Jayrah]

typical mindless EA basherI'm still not sure if that is a vote or a slight towards EA :D

[Noles94]

This is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. The licenses are the only reason this game is made. Without them, nobody would continue to buy this lame, stale, glitched filled product.

It was just a thought. Frustrated over the NCAA dictating what can't be added. Relax.

[Daywalker86]

Is there even a small chance that once the actual system is final, EA can patch it in?

[JBHuskers]

Is there even a small chance that once the actual system is final, EA can patch it in?

Won't happen. 110% sure.

Not til NCAA 15.

[souljahbill]

I mostly understand the argument for the playoffs in real life but I don't really see why we need it NOW it the game. The game isn't so lifelike that we need 100% authenticity so NEEDING to get it in Year 2 or the whole game is crap, to me, feels like a drastic overreaction.

[JBHuskers]

I mostly understand the argument for the playoffs in real life but I don't really see why we need it NOW it the game. The game isn't so lifelike that we need 100% authenticity so NEEDING to get it in Year 2 or the whole game is crap, to me, feels like a drastic overreaction.

:nod:

[CLW]

Won't happen. 110% sure.

Not til NCAA 15.

Assuming said title is produced. I gotta BAD feeling the series may be near its end due to the lawsuits.

[Jayrah]

Assuming said title is produced. I gotta BAD feeling the series may be near its end due to the lawsuits.
IF that's the case... (and personally I'm not really worried about it), I hope they are able to release 15. There's are just a few things that need to be fixed up that imo would make it a multi-year playable game.

[dhook27]

IF that's the case... (and personally I'm not really worried about it), I hope they are able to release 15. There's are just a few things that need to be fixed up that imo would make it a multi-year playable game.
it would have to be a multi-year playable game because after 15 who knows if the series will still exists

[Jayrah]

it would have to be a multi-year playable game because after 15 who knows if the series will still exists
That's what I'm sayin...

[GatorBait06NC]

typical mindless EA basher

Actually guy, not bashing anything. Just stating what everyone already knows. That NCAA is full of bugs year in and year out. Speaking of mindless, take a look in the mirror. Also realize that the one line I typed was just a summary of both NCAA and Madden. I could sit here and break down why the football games are so bad, like having no competition and EA having a monopoly over football gaming, the same glitches in the game every year, and numerous others.

Someone said the game would be better without real NCAA licensed teams and that is just preposterous. The only reason people buy the game is because it has real life teams, stadiums, etc. And because it's the only game out. So if you love College Football and want to play it, you have to buy EA's game good or bad.

Lastly, I don't think there is such thing as a mindless EA basher you moron. Do you realize that EA was voted the WORST COMPANY IN AMERICA. OVER BANK OF FREAKING AMERICA???

EA had real competition in pro basketball and 2k literally buried EA's NBA game. EA also killed NASCAR, College basketball, and is soon to kill MMA. EA got the UFC licenses even after EA MMA was the worst combat game I have ever seen. Luckily for MLB and NBA fans, Sony and 2k have stepped up and made superior games. EA has proven time and time again that they cannot release a good NFL game. The college game is better than Madden, but it is always lacking. Also, there is always some huge problem that takes months to patch.

Would a mindless EA basher remember in NCAA 09 when there was a glitch when trying to name every team or NCAA 12 when you edited a scrambling QB, it would change him to a pocket passer. What about that conference scheduling glitch where you play one team on the road every year, and it damages recruiting. Don't even get me started on the tragedy that is recruiting. Recruiting is finally starting to come around, but now we are about to transfer to a new console.

The current consoles came out, EA's games were horrible. Now that they are finally getting better, they have to start over again.

Want two more bonus reasons that bashing EA is never mindless. Season Showdown and Ultimate Team. Nobody cares about that garbage. Spend time improving the game instead of adding cheesy and gimmicky features just to squeeze a dollar out of a consumer. They want you to spend money and buy packs of cards to play with those players. EA will screw you any way that they can. You don't get voted worst company in America over a bank that almost killed the economy for no reason. Anyone who bashes that company isn't mindless. Everyone is aware except for dhook, who has prob never played a good sports game so he has nothing to compare.

[GatorBait06NC]

Are you still talking about the playoff system that won't be in college football till 2014? Why should they put that in the 2013 version of the game? It will be in the game before we see it IRL, how is that not ok?

There are teams in conferences now that will be in new conferences in 2014, EA allows you to make that future change. So why not allow you to input the biggest change in the history of college football.

[SmoothPancakes]

Lastly, I don't think there is such thing as a mindless EA basher you moron. Do you realize that EA was voted the WORST COMPANY IN AMERICA. OVER BANK OF FREAKING AMERICA???

EA had real competition in pro basketball and 2k literally buried EA's NBA game. EA also killed NASCAR, College basketball, and is soon to kill MMA. EA got the UFC licenses even after EA MMA was the worst combat game I have ever seen. Luckily for MLB and NBA fans, Sony and 2k have stepped up and made superior games. EA has proven time and time again that they cannot release a good NFL game. The college game is better than Madden, but it is always lacking. Also, there is always some huge problem that takes months to patch.

Two things, first that whole Worst Company in America proves that people voting are bunch of fucking retards. You're going to vote a video game company the worst company just because you don't like the products (games) they put out, even though nobody and nothing forces you to buy them, over company that basically steal money from people with bullshit fees and then swindle people (albeit fucktard people) out of their homes and cars with bullshit lending practices. But yeah, EA is truly the worst company in the America because they put out games with some broken features in it. That whole worst company in America is nothing but a hack job of "voting".

Second, I seriously hope you're just mentioning 2K when it comes to NBA, because if you mention 2K and MLB when you make your "stepped up and made superior games" comment, then you have lost all credibility with me. MLB2K was one of the glitchiest, buggiest, biggest piles of shit I have ever seen in the last 5 years. WORSE than even NCAA and Madden.

[SmoothPancakes]

there are teams in conferences now that will be in new conferences in 2014, ea allows you to make that future change. So why not allow you to input the biggest change in the history of college football.

Because we don't know the goddamn details yet. We don't know how many people will be on the "board" that will be selecting the teams, we don't know what criteria they're going to use, we don't know what polls or ranking or whatever that they're going to consider, we don't know how much leverage they're going to give to things like strength of schedule. We don't know anything other than the damn basics!!!

Edit - Damn, I typed that all out in all caps for effect, and got slapped by the forum software. :(

[Jayrah]

I agree with both Gator and Smooth... Calling someone a mindless EA basher when you have less than 100 posts on a very established site full of very intelligent people is a bit off base and is worthy of a response. But Gator, why would you trust a vote that puts any video game company as the "worst company in America"? I mean, who voted... A bank? 2K mods? Was there a video game player among the group? Talk about typical, the American voting system is all about finding the people that will support your theory and polling them, which is very unreliable to say the least.

From Forbes:

Is it deserved? No. If we’re being honest, it’s not. There are dozens of companies that are technically, legitimately, actually worse than EA in terms of how much harm they directly cause people, and many of them are on this list. Rather, Consumerist’s poll doesn’t gauge this. Instead, it’s a measure of how annoyed the internet is with a certain brand at the moment.For as long as this contest is about that, EA is sure to be victorious unless they make some major changes.

Links from a hundred gaming sites and countless threads on forums like /v/, NeoGAF and Reddit all but ensured EA’s victory here from day one. It was never going to be close, and EA won this year with 78% of the vote. There are simply not enough equivalent communities on the internet where people go to complain about Bank of America’s fee structures or United’s carry-on bag policies en masse, except of course Consumerist itself."

Gator, that's your argument buddy...? It's not easy that people are pissed at EA, they're just mad this and that didn't make it into their game... SMH that's a horrible poll that means JACK DIDDLY DIDDLED YOUR SISTER'S DILLY. Or in other words, absolutely crap.

And then on the basis of basically winging the "biggest change in the history of college football", like Smooth pointed out, we still don't know what the system is all about. EA is right to not spend the money and resources to put in a system that will take an entire year to implement and probably have to get totally scrapped and overhauled the very next year based on variables that haven't been accounted for. Also, adding a system like that takes up valuable space, you can't just allow us the option to "input" it after year one and call it good. The entire BCS system that they have in place will have to be rebuilt for this based on thousands of variables.

[countryboy]

There are teams in conferences now that will be in new conferences in 2014, EA allows you to make that future change. So why not allow you to input the biggest change in the history of college football.

So you complain that the game has bugs, which it does, and you STILL want them to very late in the cycle, rip out the logic they have for the postseason and re-write it? Do you not think that trying to quickly change something will lead to more bugs/glitches than something that takes a whole year to write?

Look, I want the playoffs in the game as well, but not at the expense of taking something out at the last minute and re-coding everything and then putting back in. It's not as simple as pressing the delete key on the keyboard, typing something out and then pressing ENTER.

[dhook27]

So you complain that the game has bugs, which it does, and you STILL want them to very late in the cycle, rip out the logic they have for the postseason and re-write it? Do you not think that trying to quickly change something will lead to more bugs/glitches than something that takes a whole year to write?

Look, I want the playoffs in the game as well, but not at the expense of taking something out at the last minute and re-coding everything and then putting back in. It's not as simple as pressing the delete key on the keyboard, typing something out and then pressing ENTER.
��this is what I mean country boy u hit it right on the spot,EA bashers think it is so easy just to put something in.

[Jayrah]

��this is what I mean country boy u hit it right on the spot,EA bashers think it is so easy just to put something in.He's at 99 posts and counting folks.

[SmoothPancakes]

I agree with both Gator and Smooth... Calling someone a mindless EA basher when you have less than 100 posts on a very established site full of very intelligent people is a bit off base and is worthy of a response. But Gator, why would you trust a vote that puts any video game company as the "worst company in America"? I mean, who voted... A bank? 2K mods? Was there a video game player among the group? Talk about typical, the American voting system is all about finding the people that will support your theory and polling them, which is very unreliable to say the least.

From Forbes:

Is it deserved? No. If we’re being honest, it’s not. There are dozens of companies that are technically, legitimately, actually worse than EA in terms of how much harm they directly cause people, and many of them are on this list. Rather, Consumerist’s poll doesn’t gauge this. Instead, it’s a measure of how annoyed the internet is with a certain brand at the moment.For as long as this contest is about that, EA is sure to be victorious unless they make some major changes.

Links from a hundred gaming sites and countless threads on forums like /v/, NeoGAF and Reddit all but ensured EA’s victory here from day one. It was never going to be close, and EA won this year with 78% of the vote. There are simply not enough equivalent communities on the internet where people go to complain about Bank of America’s fee structures or United’s carry-on bag policies en masse, except of course Consumerist itself."

Gator, that's your argument buddy...? It's not easy that people are pissed at EA, they're just mad this and that didn't make it into their game... SMH that's a horrible poll that means JACK DIDDLY DIDDLED YOUR SISTER'S DILLY. Or in other words, absolutely crap.

And then on the basis of basically winging the "biggest change in the history of college football", like Smooth pointed out, we still don't know what the system is all about. EA is right to not spend the money and resources to put in a system that will take an entire year to implement and probably have to get totally scrapped and overhauled the very next year based on variables that haven't been accounted for. Also, adding a system like that takes up valuable space, you can't just allow us the option to "input" it after year one and call it good. The entire BCS system that they have in place will have to be rebuilt for this based on thousands of variables.

:+1: X :infinity:

People would be bashing EA more than they do now if EA added in some half-assed playoff, and in the process, broke something else trying to get the playoff added in an extremely limited amount of time. That's why I'm fine with them waiting another year. Gives the NCAA time to actually put together the FULL details and specifics of the playoff, and give EA a year to work on implementing the playoff into the game.

[CLW]

I agree with both Gator and Smooth... Calling someone a mindless EA basher when you have less than 100 posts on a very established site full of very intelligent people is a bit off base and is worthy of a response.

who are these very intelligent people. you must be referring to :ram?:


He's at 99 posts and counting folks.

I don't think comparing post counts is a very solid argument to throw up against someone. Especially considering my QUEST to redistribute the wealth of posts from my enemies here at TGT to others so that they have a fair shot at surviving here at TGT.

[JBHuskers]

Let's not forget that poll is from a website running on Wordpress. Not exactly Forbes :D The only people who paid attention to it were those who are into gaming. (or got stuck with overdraft fees)

[dhook27]

who are these very intelligent people. you must be referring to :ram?:



I don't think comparing post counts is a very solid argument to throw up against someone. Especially considering my QUEST to redistribute the wealth of posts from my enemies here at TGT to others so that they have a fair shot at surviving here at TGT.
:+1:

[Jayrah]

who are these very intelligent people. you must be referring to :ram?:



I don't think comparing post counts is a very solid argument to throw up against someone. Especially considering my QUEST to redistribute the wealth of posts from my enemies here at TGT to others so that they have a fair shot at surviving here at TGT.
Intelligent ppl? ... Well, now that you ask ... :dunno: :D

On the post count issue, I wasn't "comparing" just saying that jumping on and calling someone a mindless EA basher without knowing anybody very well and while still truly un-established on any site is not a way to make friends. Bringing intelligent arguments to the table is the way to accomplish your goal there, not name calling. HOWEVER, name calling is eventually ok, we do have some class clowns and we give them crap all the time. They really are mindless... :D

[JeffHCross]

This whole thread: :D :smh: :+1: