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cdj
04-18-2013, 09:36 AM
EA SPORTS has posted the second NCAA Football Playbook and it focuses on improvements & changes to presentation (http://www.easports.com/ncaa-football/news/article/ncaa-football-14-presentation).

Among the improvements coming to presentation: A halftime show featuring Rece Davis & David Pollack, neutral site games, school specific base-layers & gloves, and more.

Continue on to read the Presentation Playbook.



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The ultimate goal of any video game is to immerse you in the action. That’s why we’ve been heavily focused in making improvements both on and off the field for NCAA Football 14. We’re excited to start revealing some of the biggest upgrades to presentation.


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Blur Tempo

In NCAA Football 14, you’ll feel the emotion of college football right from the streamlined and responsive menu interface. Now you can see all the game modes and available options – such as Play Now, Dynasty and Ultimate Team – at a glance and jump straight into the action.

One major complaint from fans over the last few years is that the pre-game simply took too long. When you’re in Play Now, you want to play. Pregame festivities have been redone from 2-3 minutes sequences to emphatic 30-second intros that still retain all of the college traditions that play such a big part of different school's identities.

The intros in Dynasty Mode are also deeper and more immersive than ever before. Rece Davis will set the stage with robust game storylines that are accompanied by a variety of on-screen banners, faithfully recreating the type of montages seen on ESPN before big games on Saturday. On-screen banners incorporate dynamic phrases, and there are multiple variations based on the type of game you are playing, like a rivalry or bowl game.


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Leave It on the Field

New triggering logic in NCAA Football 14 will capture the emotion on the field like never before. Replacing the legacy vignettes are more than 500 new sequences that run between plays. These vignettes are designed to keep you in the action – just like watching college football on TV. You’ll also notice dynamic player wipes and all new-team wipes.

Another detail that makes a big impact is the inclusion of pre-play player chatter. Now, in addition to hearing the QB bark out audibles, you can listen in as defenders call out their adjustments. You might catch the center calling out the number of down linemen or the QB calling out the Mike Linebacker. Linemen can make calls to alert potential blitzers, and the defense will counter by calling out strength of formation. You may even hear the location of the tight end or which players the defense will be keying on. You’ll also hear players celebrating between whistles as they make game-changing plays like TDs and INTs.


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Authenticity is important to NCAA Football 14 and the game will feature the latest new uniforms, team-specific gloves and base layers. In close collaboration with the apparel manufacturers, you can expect regular uniform updates post-launch as well. Rest assured that your team will not only be playing in accurate gear, but they’ll also be using the correct football based on their school’s equipment and apparel manufacturers. That’s right, Under Armour schools will play with an Under Armour ball.


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This year, South Alabama makes its long-awaited debut in NCAA Football along with Old Dominion and Georgia State. The Jaguars stadium has been accurately recreated, as has Texas State’s. That’s right, Jim Wacker Field at Bobcat Stadium will be in the game. Both big and small schools received attention, with TCU’s stadium updated to reflect their recent renovations. Horned Frogs fans should feel right at home.


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Neutral site games make their long-awaited debut this year, including the Chick-fil-A Kickoff Classic (Georgia Dome), Cowboy Kickoff Classic (Cowboys Stadium) and the Texas Kickoff Classic (Reliant Stadium). NCAA Football 14 also features three stadiums brought over from Madden NFL: Soldier Field, MetLife Stadium and M&T Bank Stadium. You can even create your own neutral site game. Let your imagination run wild.

The Story of the Game

In addition to the on-field improvements, NCAA Football 14 features a more realistic and enjoyable broadcast experience. This year, Brad Nessler and Kirk Herbstreit will focus on the ever changing in game stories that make college football so great. They'll highlight key players and their performances throughout the season, along with the storylines that play out dynamically on the field.

The development team meticulously studied box scores throughout the 2011 and 2012 season, dissecting statistics and finding patterns. What was discovered was that many games follow similar storylines and these were the first building blocks of our Drive Stories feature. In NCAA 14, Brad and Kirk will recognize patterns as the game progresses and comment on them as a banner is shown on screen. These moments precede key drives, and mimic real broadcasts where the commentary team would take a step away from the action and sum up how the game is playing out.


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Anyone who has watched college football knows that when a National or Conference leader is playing in a game, the broadcast will place the spotlight on them. In NCAA Football 14, if a user-controlled team or the opposition has one of these Key Players, Brad and Kirk will introduce the player and talk about his importance, and then track his performance throughout. How is he playing in relation to his team? Does he rebound from a slow start? Does a Key QB’s run game steal the show? Is the player falling apart as his team struggles? These are just some of the many storylines available this year.

There are also special storylines in store for the most dedicated Dynasty gamers. Some won’t become available until at least your 2nd year as a coach, while others take much more time to unlock.


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The ESPN Living Game Clock, which provides quick-hitting stats on previous plays, player stats, game stats, play selection and more, is just one more piece that heightens immersion and makes the game feel truer to an actual ESPN broadcast.

We can announce that NCAA Football 14 will feature a halftime show with Rece Davis and David Pollack. The duo will recap your game, call out highlights and set up the second half with a combination of thoughtful insight and witty banter.

David Pollack’s experience on the defensive side of the ball, along with his natural chemistry with Rece Davis on air, results in a compelling halftime show. The insightful banter back and forth creates naturally flowing, authentic commentary.

And last but not least, we’re excited to announce that “Zombie Nation” and “Seven Nation Army” are in NCAA 14, two of the most widely-used stadium anthems in the country. And yes, you’ll hear the crowd chanting, just like they do in real life. More info is on the way, so make sure you read the site regularly.

There’s a ton of other features that will be announced shortly, each making NCAA Football 14 look, and feel, like nothing you’ve ever played before. Check back in the coming days and weeks for even more details on all the improvements to presentation.

Fans can keep up to date by visiting the NCAA Football website, Facebook, and Twitter for exclusive assets and unique insights into all of this year’s new features. College football enthusiasts can also get involved in the conversation by tweeting with the hashtag #PLAYTRUE.

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SmoothPancakes
04-18-2013, 09:42 AM
Ok, I know they re-did the menus due to be a resource hog and lagging the game, but wow! That is UGLY and bland as hell. Menus are definitely a down-grade from last year.

CLW
04-18-2013, 09:47 AM
+ Halftime show (hopefully it doesn't get too repetitive)

The rest of it is very "meh" to me

JBHuskers
04-18-2013, 09:52 AM
Ok, I know they re-did the menus due to be a resource hog and lagging the game, but wow! That is UGLY and bland as hell. Menus are definitely a down-grade from last year.

I'd take bland and ugly over taking forever to get through them because they were so laggy.

gschwendt
04-18-2013, 09:53 AM
+ Halftime show (hopefully it doesn't get too repetitive)

The rest of it is very "meh" to me
Is there anything that you wanted/expected to be there that isn't or just a matter that presentation doesn't matter as much to you?

JBHuskers
04-18-2013, 09:53 AM
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The ESPN Living Game Clock, which provides quick-hitting stats on previous plays, player stats, game stats, play selection and more, is just one more piece that heightens immersion and makes the game feel truer to an actual ESPN broadcast.

FINALLY! :)) :))

Been asking for this for years.

JBHuskers
04-18-2013, 09:56 AM
Anyone who has watched college football knows that when a National or Conference leader is playing in a game, the broadcast will place the spotlight on them. In NCAA Football 14, if a user-controlled team or the opposition has one of these Key Players, Brad and Kirk will introduce the player and talk about his importance, and then track his performance throughout. How is he playing in relation to his team? Does he rebound from a slow start? Does a Key QB’s run game steal the show? Is the player falling apart as his team struggles? These are just some of the many storylines available this year.

There are also special storylines in store for the most dedicated Dynasty gamers. Some won’t become available until at least your 2nd year as a coach, while others take much more time to unlock.



Really stoked for this too. We really didn't get to see this in action as it is typically one of the last things that is completed.

CLW
04-18-2013, 10:01 AM
Is there anything that you wanted/expected to be there that isn't or just a matter that presentation doesn't matter as much to you?

Admittedly, I'm not a "big" presentation guy. IMHO no matter what EA does the commentary is going to get OLD/STALE quickly for me b/c they simply won't/can't put enough variations of commentary in the game to make it feel truly authentic (perhaps I play the game too much). I'm sure I'll enjoy the new commentary at 1st but after a month or so I'll have heard 100% of it at least 10+ times. Perhaps I just play the game too much.

I liked the in game studio updates last year (although the commentary got stale after awhile -- are they still in the game?) was hoping they would add to that with actual video highlights of the big plays in those games just like they do in a real broadcast. I was also hoping for "College Gameday" as a weekly pre-game show sort of like 2K did with College Hoops as sort of a weekly recap with video highlights and commentary of the season with profiles of Heisman front runners; conference standings; Top 25; BCS Standings; etc....

JBHuskers
04-18-2013, 10:03 AM
Admittedly, I'm not a "big" presentation guy. IMHO no matter what EA does the commentary is going to get OLD/STALE quickly for me b/c they simply won't/can't put enough variations of commentary in the game to make it feel truly authentic (perhaps I play the game too much). I'm sure I'll enjoy the new commentary at 1st but after a month or so I'll have heard 100% of it at least 10+ times. Perhaps I just play the game too much.

I liked the in game studio updates last year (although the commentary got stale after awhile -- are they still in the game?) was hoping they would add to that with actual video highlights of the big plays in those games just like they do in a real broadcast. I was also hoping for "College Gameday" as a weekly pre-game show sort of like 2K did with College Hoops as sort of a weekly recap with video highlights and commentary of the season with profiles of Heisman front runners; conference standings; Top 25; BCS Standings; etc....

I agree with you. NCAA, Madden, and Tiger are like that for me, and I usually have something else running on the other TV with audio on that instead of in-game.

cdj
04-18-2013, 10:05 AM
conference standings; Top 25; BCS Standings; etc....

Some of the new in-game banners will show conference standings, Top 25, Players to Watch, etc.

xMrHitStickx904
04-18-2013, 10:08 AM
I'm glad they re-did the menus, because they were insanely laggy last year. Looked great, but laggy. Rather go with a more bland look with better performance because after awhile, the aesthetics of things like the menus wears off & you're just ready to play the game. I'm very interested in the commentary this year, if it's anything like 2K is, then it'll be great. Madden commentary isn't too bad either with the exception of a few repetitive things.

JBHuskers
04-18-2013, 10:11 AM
Recruiting menus are better too. We can't talk about that stuff yet, but the redesign has eliminated the lag there as well. That was my biggest pain was scrolling through a list of players and it taking an eternity.

CLW
04-18-2013, 10:11 AM
Some of the new in-game banners will show conference standings, Top 25, Players to Watch, etc.

Yeah I dunno just didn't strike me as anywhere near the quality of something that was added to a now defunct series 5+ years ago....


http://youtu.be/AQai7TuL3sg

Imagine that with improved graphics the College Gameday graphics and highlights/box scores from the big games; upsets; etc.... each week also perhaps instead of the menu showing you the BCS rankings they are ONLY unveiled each week in the weekly College Gameday show. In fact, you could probably get rid of the entire dynasty menu now (other than recruiting) and replace it with the College Gameday show/video each week. Heck it be amazing if they even commented when a team nabbed a "big time" recruit. The possibilities are really endless.

cdj
04-18-2013, 10:12 AM
Here is a pic featuring the Chick-fil-A Kickoff Game (courtesy Operation Sports):

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onikuno
04-18-2013, 10:16 AM
So, just to clarify...I can finally use Cowboys Stadium for my custom Big 12 Championship game and not the "Cotton Bowl"? What field art and logos will I see instead?

cdj
04-18-2013, 10:18 AM
So, just to clarify...I can finally use Cowboys Stadium for my custom Big 12 Championship game and not the "Cotton Bowl"? What field art and logos will I see instead?

Yes, I believe so. We'd have to double check to see how this works in conjunction with Custom Conferences, though. This feature wasn't final when we saw it in March, but I believe the plan at that time would see a standard field (blank) but with the swappable end zone art for each school.

SmoothPancakes
04-18-2013, 10:22 AM
Yeah, that is the biggest thing for me. Neutral game stadiums (MetLife, Soldier, etc), we can CREATE our own neutral-site games, etc. That is the biggest addition so far for me, I've been wanting the stadiums of actual neutral-site games and be able to create my own neutral-site games for years.

CLW
04-18-2013, 10:23 AM
Recruiting menus are better too. We can't talk about that stuff yet, but the redesign has eliminated the lag there as well. That was my biggest pain was scrolling through a list of players and it taking an eternity.

That's a fair point about the menus as I did notice some lag but I guess it didn't bother me as badly as it did some. I always thought the 3D stuff was unnecessary. The main menu almost looks Windows 8ish to me. Was that the concept they were going for a tablet/smart phone like screen?

onikuno
04-18-2013, 10:30 AM
Yes, I believe so. We'd have to double check to see how this works in conjunction with Custom Conferences, though. This feature wasn't final when we saw it in March, but I believe the plan at that time would see a standard field (blank) but with the swappable end zone art for each school.

I was hoping the conference logo for mid-field art. Just have to wait and see.

tweety21
04-18-2013, 10:30 AM
Where any new playable camera's added this year?

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cdj
04-18-2013, 10:33 AM
Where any new playable camera's added this year?

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Here is a Twitter conversation between a community member and the official EA NCAA Football account just 10 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/EANCAAFootball/status/324905974173401088):

@jpdavis1982 - @EANCAAFootball So does that mean we finally have more than just one camera angle to play with?????

EA NCAA Football - @jpdavis1982 :)

AustinWolv
04-18-2013, 10:33 AM
Really stoked for this too. We really didn't get to see this in action as it is typically one of the last things that is completed.
I like the sounds of it and the potential for it, but would love to see more. It harkens back a bit to NCAA of old where star players were featured so you could adjust to stop them......

JBHuskers
04-18-2013, 10:36 AM
That's a fair point about the menus as I did notice some lag but I guess it didn't bother me as badly as it did some. I always thought the 3D stuff was unnecessary. The main menu almost looks Windows 8ish to me. Was that the concept they were going for a tablet/smart phone like screen?

Don't think that was their intent, their intent was to make things run as clean and smooth as possible. We don't need 36 pieces of flair on our menus...

SB Batman
04-18-2013, 10:36 AM
We will see some of the new facemasks that were in Madden last year in NCAA 14?
AKA
http://sportskraze.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/taylor-martinez-fb-vs-idaho-sb-2001.jpg

cdj
04-18-2013, 10:38 AM
I am not sure if any new facemasks were added. I'll note your question and see if we can get an answer down the line if not disclosed by EA first.

BTW, thanks for posting!

SB Batman
04-18-2013, 10:40 AM
Excellent, thank you! Go Skers!

Oneback
04-18-2013, 10:45 AM
Another detail that makes a big impact is the inclusion of pre-play player chatter. Now, in addition to hearing the QB bark out audibles, you can listen in as defenders call out their adjustments. You might catch the center calling out the number of down linemen or the QB calling out the Mike Linebacker. Linemen can make calls to alert potential blitzers, and the defense will counter by calling out strength of formation. You may even hear the location of the tight end or which players the defense will be keying on. You’ll also hear players celebrating between whistles as they make game-changing plays like TDs and INTs.

My question here is does any of this matter? If I call 34 Under and the defense calls out the offensive strength do they now align correctly? Can I now set a strongside and weakside linebacker? Or is all this just chatter to increase "presentation"?

BigDave225
04-18-2013, 10:46 AM
I don't know how anyone else feels, but I like having the simple menu screens. It will stop the lagging that we had last year. Less is more to me.

JBHuskers
04-18-2013, 11:00 AM
I don't know how anyone else feels, but I like having the simple menu screens. It will stop the lagging that we had last year. Less is more to me.

Fully agree. I don't need a laser light show to entertain me in the menus :D

cdj
04-18-2013, 11:23 AM
http://web-vassets.ea.com/Assets/Resources/Image/ncaa-football-presentation-7.jpg

This pic also provides the first look at the player fatigue meter. (Look under LE #93, bottom half of circle.)

psusnoop
04-18-2013, 11:31 AM
This pic also provides the first look at the player fatigue meter. (Look under LE #93, bottom half of circle.)


So on this meter, is it the circle or is there a line meter just above the LE#93?

How will this work with the auto sub in/out? I realize you probably can't answer this one but thought I'd throw it out there so no one else needed to.

cdj
04-18-2013, 11:31 AM
Where any new playable camera's added this year?

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Community event attendee Ronnie from TSO (http://twitter.com/Drifterbub) tweeted this a few moments ago:

"Just received confirmation that there will be multiple playable camera angles. More information to follow."

"It's not as big of a deal to most people, but there is another blog coming soon that will detail it out."

JBHuskers
04-18-2013, 11:32 AM
So on this meter, is it the circle or is there a line meter just above the LE#93?

How will this work with the auto sub in/out? I realize you probably can't answer this one but thought I'd throw it out there so no one else needed to.

If you look at the picture above, it's the bottom part of the circle.

cdj
04-18-2013, 11:34 AM
So on this meter, is it the circle or is there a line meter just above the LE#93?

How will this work with the auto sub in/out? I realize you probably can't answer this one but thought I'd throw it out there so no one else needed to.

It will drain down, so that gray/pink area will go clear.

The second part is something I think that EA will have to clarify/address. I do not know exactly how auto sub in/out will work with the new fatigue meter and do not want to put any bad info out.

psusnoop
04-18-2013, 11:39 AM
Thanks JB and CDJ!

Yeah I figured that second question may be a sticking point, any chance you guys could find out why at a certain percentage the player sub out/in would result in a player not being able to return to the game? I ask because I fear this combined with the new fatigue could trip things up if moved off of the default settings for that auto sub players out/in.

cdj
04-18-2013, 11:43 AM
Here is a link to Game Informer's preview of presentation improvements (http://www.gameinformer.com/games/ncaa_football_14/b/ps3/archive/2013/04/18/ncaa-14-presentation-details-and-new-screens.aspx). It does not add anything we did not learn from ESPN VG, Polygon, or EA so we did not publish it as its own article.

Kwizzy
04-18-2013, 11:52 AM
Did they adjust which buttons will cancel you out of studio updates/game tracks? I am admittedly a button masher as soon as the play ends I am tapping the X button to get through all of the post play player stumbling etc... That being said, the in game update stuff is something I would watch if I ever got to see it. I can honestly say that in 2-3 years I have seen a total of 2 updates/game tracks combined. I told them this was an issue 2 years ago. It needs to be a combination of buttons to cancel out of those or at the least a less commonly pressed button.

psusnoop
04-18-2013, 11:55 AM
Did they adjust which buttons will cancel you out of studio updates/game tracks? I am admittedly a button masher as soon as the play ends I am tapping the X button to get through all of the post play player stumbling etc... That being said, the in game update stuff is something I would watch if I ever got to see it. I can honestly say that in 2-3 years I have seen a total of 2 updates/game tracks combined. I told them this was an issue 2 years ago. It needs to be a combination of buttons to cancel out of those or at the least a less commonly pressed button.

I too am I button smasher once a play ends, I hit X like crazy. I would watch more of this stuff if the button to cancel was triangle instead.

SmoothPancakes
04-18-2013, 11:56 AM
Did they adjust which buttons will cancel you out of studio updates/game tracks? I am admittedly a button masher as soon as the play ends I am tapping the X button to get through all of the post play player stumbling etc... That being said, the in game update stuff is something I would watch if I ever got to see it. I can honestly say that in 2-3 years I have seen a total of 2 updates/game tracks combined. I told them this was an issue 2 years ago. It needs to be a combination of buttons to cancel out of those or at the least a less commonly pressed button.

Yeah, they should change it to :360b:/:ps3cir:. EA (and damn near every game company) uses those to cancel actions or back out of menus. Carry it over into the game and use those buttons to skip the cutscenes and extras if you don't want to watch it. Don't use a major button like :360a:/:ps3x:.

psusnoop
04-18-2013, 11:58 AM
My question here is does any of this matter? If I call 34 Under and the defense calls out the offensive strength do they now align correctly? Can I now set a strongside and weakside linebacker? Or is all this just chatter to increase "presentation"?

Only a guess that is just chatter to increase presentation but to look at it from a different angle it also now maybe provides a look that EA will give us the ability to make this switch/move pre-snap next year as this will be something that more casual fans will take notice to and help strengthen the need that this been in the game. Just my 2 cents.

souljahbill
04-18-2013, 12:03 PM
+ Halftime show (hopefully it doesn't get too repetitive)

The rest of it is very "meh" to me

Of course it will. That's why I've never cared about adding College Gameday or having halftime or weekly shows. It'll be fresh at first but it'll be repetitive eventually since there are only so many lines that can be recorded.

Edit: Now that I've read through all the posts since yours, looks like this has been established already.

Kwizzy
04-18-2013, 12:20 PM
Of course it will. That's why I've never cared about adding College Gameday or having halftime or weekly shows. It'll be fresh at first but it'll be repetitive eventually since there are only so many lines that can be recorded.

Edit: Now that I've read through all the posts since yours, looks like this has been established already.

This is why I have never been a fan of things like this. I would rather the presentation elements be focused on providing more context both within each game, and within your season/dynasty. A few years back we're hyping these awesome custom pre-game entrances and now we're touting the fact that we're shortening them up. It's counter productive.

Oneback
04-18-2013, 12:25 PM
Only a guess that is just chatter to increase presentation but to look at it from a different angle it also now maybe provides a look that EA will give us the ability to make this switch/move pre-snap next year as this will be something that more casual fans will take notice to and help strengthen the need that this been in the game. Just my 2 cents.

Hey I hope you're right, however due to track record (coaching carosel, etc) just because a base/sub item is implemented does not automatically mean logical improvements are on the way.

psusnoop
04-18-2013, 12:25 PM
This is why I have never been a fan of things like this. I would rather the presentation elements be focused on providing more context both within each game, and within your season/dynasty. A few years back we're hyping these awesome custom pre-game entrances and now we're touting the fact that we're shortening them up. It's counter productive.

Kind of a waste of resources from start to finish. It's always easy for anyone like myself to say what I just did but when you look back and think of what else could have been given some of those resources it makes you think.

psusnoop
04-18-2013, 12:27 PM
Hey I hope you're right, however due to track record (coaching carosel, etc) just because a base/sub item is implemented does not automatically mean logical improvements are on the way.

I see what you saying I guess part of me is REALLY REALLY hoping that the defense gets some attention. While I understand the college football game is still pretty for offensives to showcase their talents Defense still has a HUGE part of the outcome and I think EA is missing this. How many Championships does Bama own the last 4 years? How many of Bama's starting QB's are playing in the NFL? Well there you go I rest my case :P sorry, I had to do it :D

Tako 715
04-18-2013, 12:29 PM
Will you be able to play home vs home uniforms like in the Kickoff Classic? NCST and Tennessee did last year. Or like USC/UCLA every year? Small detail but would be kind of cool.

Oneback
04-18-2013, 12:49 PM
I see what you saying I guess part of me is REALLY REALLY hoping that the defense gets some attention. While I understand the college football game is still pretty for offensives to showcase their talents Defense still has a HUGE part of the outcome and I think EA is missing this. How many Championships does Bama own the last 4 years? How many of Bama's starting QB's are playing in the NFL? Well there you go I rest my case :P sorry, I had to do it :D

To be fair the winning QB's in Bama's three MNC's since 2009 were Greg McElroy (contending to be the starter next seson for NYJ) and AJ McCarron who will be a Senior at Bama next season.

I completely understand your point however - EA had made the game very offensive, I'm sure in an attempt to up the fun factor for the casual fan, while ignoring the defensive side of the ball for many years. Yes, they added "pattern reading defenses" two years ago but lets not kid ourselves, that's not a true pattern reading defense, its still barely a spot dropping defense (read my post at http://www.gridironvictory.com/defense/spot-dropping-versus-pattern-reading-zone-defenses/ for more information). Defense has been largely unchanged since NCAA 2003, think about how many games you've played since then and how many times you've faced these extremely basic defenses, and now they are making the spread offense more complex, unfortunately the defenses as they are currently constructed can barely contain the current version of spread offenses in the game.

cdj
04-18-2013, 12:53 PM
We have been given the green light to discuss Alternate Camera Angles.

There are four camera angles to select: Regular, Zoom (closer behind ball-carrier), Wide, Broadcast (overhead/blimp but will dynamically zoom in on action based on result).

psusnoop
04-18-2013, 01:03 PM
We have been given the green light to discuss Alternate Camera Angles.

There are four camera angles to select: Regular, Zoom (closer behind ball-carrier), Wide, Broadcast (overhead/blimp but will dynamically zoom in on action based on result).

While cool for some this was never a major factor for me to be honest. Nice touch though.

psusnoop
04-18-2013, 01:03 PM
To be fair the winning QB's in Bama's three MNC's since 2009 were Greg McElroy (contending to be the starter next seson for NYJ) and AJ McCarron who will be a Senior at Bama next season.

I completely understand your point however - EA had made the game very offensive, I'm sure in an attempt to up the fun factor for the casual fan, while ignoring the defensive side of the ball for many years. Yes, they added "pattern reading defenses" two years ago but lets not kid ourselves, that's not a true pattern reading defense, its still barely a spot dropping defense (read my post at http://www.gridironvictory.com/defense/spot-dropping-versus-pattern-reading-zone-defenses/ for more information). Defense has been largely unchanged since NCAA 2003, think about how many games you've played since then and how many times you've faced these extremely basic defenses, and now they are making the spread offense more complex, unfortunately the defenses as they are currently constructed can barely contain the current version of spread offenses in the game.

I just don't see how EA could get the defense to a point where we'd like it without completely scrapping what they have and I don't see that happening anytime soon to be honest.

Deuce
04-18-2013, 01:05 PM
I'm not a presentation guy but everything sounds great. It sounds like the 'details' crowd will be happy with the gloves, socks correction, team specific footballs, etc...

Out of all this the one thing I am most excited about is the neutral games. Really glad they made them generic. Very cool! :up:

Oneback
04-18-2013, 01:44 PM
I just don't see how EA could get the defense to a point where we'd like it without completely scrapping what they have and I don't see that happening anytime soon to be honest.

Completely agree. I don't know that they'll ever truely change the way defense plays as their core demographic is the casual fan - they aren't making the game for people like me who want a true to life simulation, I get that, but it'd surely be nice if they got a close approximation. It's frustrating for people like myself who call the correct defense only to get beat because my safety never reacts appropriately to the corner route for example.

In a lot of way NCAA 13 in game doesn't really feel that much different than NCAA 03 when I started playing the series consistantly, it looks better and there have been a small handful of things added but in the end its the same game I've played for the last 10 years and quite honestly is starting be become stale to which no amount of presentation, etc will sway my opinion because the core gameplay is the same, which is why we play the game.

The new additions to the spread offense I'm sure will be fun to play around with but in the end its a chess match that I crave from this game, unfortunately this is also the area where the game is lacking the most.

AustinWolv
04-18-2013, 01:51 PM
Wide
Curious to see if that means sideline to sideline is visible.

d2721
04-18-2013, 02:19 PM
Anyone in the know.. Did they add Notre Dame's base layer and fixed their uniforms? Thanks

MC1
04-18-2013, 02:57 PM
Sounds like the halftime show has no "video highlights"....just audio. Hope I'm wrong, but we'll see.

cdj
04-18-2013, 03:12 PM
Anyone in the know.. Did they add Notre Dame's base layer and fixed their uniforms? Thanks

Unsure on the base layer. What issue with the uniforms are you referring to?

cdj
04-18-2013, 03:13 PM
Sounds like the halftime show has no "video highlights"....just audio. Hope I'm wrong, but we'll see.

I do not know what kind of highlights (if any will appear), but Steve (from OS) had this in his hands-on time with the game (http://www.operationsports.com/features/1628/ncaa-football-14-revamps-presentation/) from this week's Season Opener Event:

In the game I played, neither team got to the quarterback and recorded a sack. So during the halftime show, Reese mentioned that the pass rush has been totally negated. Reece then asks David what the defensive coordinator is telling his players at halftime to make adjustments in the 2nd half to get after the QB. David then talks about not only being able to sack the QB, but also getting pressure, rattle him a little bit, he made a joke about how defensive players were a little fat and the offense gets off the ball quicker.

It seems like the half time crew will lead off with Reese stating an obvious statistical observation and Pollack providing an answer as to how the teams will adjust. Hard to say, it could be more, and it could be even more when the Bowl games are played, but it was good to see highlights from the game, as they were talking and these were key plays in the game, not just an average play from a camera angle that didn't even make sense or was focused on the wrong player, etc.

OSUCowboyofMD
04-18-2013, 03:26 PM
College Gameday would've been so awesome but I'm pretty sure we won't be seeing that until the next-gen hopefully. I like all the presentation elements! But they missed one thing and that would be the new facemasks and cleats. It be nice if they could bring back the fight song menu music and the "Did You Know" loading screens. Those were pretty cool. And actual fight songs too! Like actual recordings of the respective universities bands'

TheShockDoctor
04-18-2013, 03:53 PM
This sounds good on paper but I would like to see a video to see how it works/sounds. I would imagine that a video showcasing these new features will come out eventually right? I'm pretty sure they showed a video of the studio updates last year (I may be wrong though).

gschwendt
04-18-2013, 03:57 PM
Yeah... I would certainly expect to see video in the coming weeks. If nothing else, certainly at E3 we'll see videos coming out of it whether from EA officially or from just people attending E3.

NatureBoy
04-18-2013, 04:14 PM
I was really hoping to get a fresh, new announce crew besides Kirk Herbstreit and Brad Nessler. I thought Nessler moved to the NFL Network to do the Thursday Night NFL games.

OSUCowboyofMD
04-18-2013, 04:15 PM
I hope they fix the Navy unis. --> http://www.washingtontimes.com/multimedia/enlarge/image/indiana-navy-football_hascjpg/?iframe=true&width=830&height=800

d2721
04-18-2013, 04:15 PM
The pants and shoes. The pants changed in 2012 to match the new helmets and their "standard" cleats are blue and gold.

JBHuskers
04-18-2013, 04:22 PM
I was really hoping to get a fresh, new announce crew besides Kirk Herbstreit and Brad Nessler. I thought Nessler moved to the NFL Network to do the Thursday Night NFL games.

He still does college for ESPN on Saturday nights typically.

psusnoop
04-18-2013, 04:24 PM
I do not know what kind of highlights (if any will appear), but Steve (from OS) had this in his hands-on time with the game (http://www.operationsports.com/features/1628/ncaa-football-14-revamps-presentation/) from this week's Season Opener Event:

In the game I played, neither team got to the quarterback and recorded a sack. So during the halftime show, Reese mentioned that the pass rush has been totally negated. Reece then asks David what the defensive coordinator is telling his players at halftime to make adjustments in the 2nd half to get after the QB. David then talks about not only being able to sack the QB, but also getting pressure, rattle him a little bit, he made a joke about how defensive players were a little fat and the offense gets off the ball quicker.

It seems like the half time crew will lead off with Reese stating an obvious statistical observation and Pollack providing an answer as to how the teams will adjust. Hard to say, it could be more, and it could be even more when the Bowl games are played, but it was good to see highlights from the game, as they were talking and these were key plays in the game, not just an average play from a camera angle that didn't even make sense or was focused on the wrong player, etc.

That will be a nice touch to it.

psusnoop
04-18-2013, 04:26 PM
He still does college for ESPN on Saturday nights typically.


Maybe next year we can get another group of announcers, I'm will NatureBoy on this one. While I do think Kirk and Brad should remain I'd like to see a second tandem as well!

Jayrah
04-18-2013, 04:52 PM
This is why I have never been a fan of things like this. I would rather the presentation elements be focused on providing more context both within each game, and within your season/dynasty. A few years back we're hyping these awesome custom pre-game entrances and now we're touting the fact that we're shortening them up. It's counter productive.
I've always thought the pregame should be more 'highlight' oriented. What would be cool is if these pregame 'highlights' included plays that were recorded from previous games throughout the season and randomly thrown in. Maybe snapshot of a celebration and then a big catch in the end zone along with short snips of the run-out and warm ups. I LOVE that they've shortened up the intro. More importantly though, to your point, they can now take elements of all those pregame entrances and cut them up dynamically so that each game has a different element included and you don't get that stale pregame that we're used to.

:cool:

Tarhead10
04-18-2013, 05:16 PM
Did any of CD guys experience different camera angles and if you did what did y'all think?

Jayrah
04-18-2013, 06:02 PM
moving question to the Q&A Thread

Deuce
04-18-2013, 06:09 PM
Dang. What Jayrah said. Good questions.

Just a small add on question. Is there going to be volume control for the chatter? I'm pretty sure ill want all the on field stuff full blast.

Jayrah
04-18-2013, 06:18 PM
Dang. What Jayrah said. Good questions.

Just a small add on question. Is there going to be volume control for the chatter? I'm pretty sure ill want all the on field stuff full blast.
I was going to ask that but then just assumed (I know, WHY?) that there would be an added volume control for that.

cdj
04-18-2013, 07:23 PM
The pants and shoes. The pants changed in 2012 to match the new helmets and their "standard" cleats are blue and gold.

Good questions. The change in pant color is slight (but does exist), so it may come down to if the school requested it.

Looking at pics, ND wore a couple different sets of adizero (I hope that's the right name :blush:) cleats in 2012, so I'm going to guess they will have either White or Black cleats in-game, depending on uni combo. (Keep in mind that the Adidas cleats in-game are....off....so it's tough to get them accurate in matching what schools wear.)

Very few new uniforms were in the early March build, so I am not privy to what new threads will be in the game.

baseballplyrmvp
04-18-2013, 07:50 PM
they're only bringing over 3 of the madden stadiums? thats a bummer.

and regarding the conversation on page 2, are the cutscenes the same as last year, or can you immediately skip over them?

JBHuskers
04-18-2013, 08:44 PM
they're only bringing over 3 of the madden stadiums? thats a bummer.

and regarding the conversation on page 2, are the cutscenes the same as last year, or can you immediately skip over them?

I think the intent is to hold the button down to get rid of the cutscenes and studio updates. That way the button mashers like myself don't skip over them by accident.

cdj
04-18-2013, 09:45 PM
they're only bringing over 3 of the madden stadiums? thats a bummer.

and regarding the conversation on page 2, are the cutscenes the same as last year, or can you immediately skip over them?

I think they went with the NFL stadiums that are hosting/featuring NSGs in 2013 (or have for several years). Some that host bowls or CCGs are already in the game: Qualcomm (SDSU Stadium), Bank of America Stadium (ACC CG, Belk Bowl), Reliant Stadium (Meineke CCBOT), etc.

I do not know if there will be an 'anti-skip' mechanic. It was recommended in the past, but I do not know its status.

baseballplyrmvp
04-18-2013, 10:06 PM
I think they went with the NFL stadiums that are hosting/featuring NSGs in 2013 (or have for several years). Some that host bowls or CCGs are already in the game: Qualcomm (SDSU Stadium), Bank of America Stadium (ACC CG, Belk Bowl), Reliant Stadium (Meineke CCBOT), etc.

I do not know if there will be an 'anti-skip' mechanic. It was recommended in the past, but I do not know its status.

i would have thought they'd jump all over the microtransactions bandwagon and offer the madden stadiums as pdlc, just for this feature. but maybe there's some legal issue, idk. just seems like an obvious direction to go, instead of adding stadiums to the game disk.

as for skipping over the cutscenes, for me, they got old extremely quickly. i like to run a lightspeed paced air raid offense against the cpu, and in a game with 8 minute quarters, there were times where i'd get up to 72 passes in a game (only because of a shootout). if the cpu strings a couple of long drives together, there's roughly 120 or so offensive plays. with the average cutscene taking 2-3 seconds, at a minimum, thats about 5-7 minutes tacked on per game, just in cutscenes after plays....add in the studio updates and its even longer. it ruins the flow of the game, for me, anyways, as its always gameplay, movie, gameplay, movie, gameplay, movie, etc. i just want to play the game and not have all of the little flutter-crap distract me from whats happening.

cdj
04-18-2013, 10:09 PM
i would have thought they'd jump all over the microtransactions bandwagon and offer the madden stadiums as pdlc, just for this feature. but maybe there's some legal issue, idk. just seems like an obvious direction to go, instead of adding stadiums to the game disk.

I may be wrong, but I believe every NFL stadium has to be individually licensed to be in NCAA Football so they probably didn't want to add more than they felt necessary.

JBHuskers
04-18-2013, 10:09 PM
i would have thought they'd jump all over the microtransactions bandwagon and offer the madden stadiums as pdlc, just for this feature. but maybe there's some legal issue, idk. just seems like an obvious direction to go, instead of adding stadiums to the game disk.

I think they still have to re-license them for NCAA.

JBHuskers
04-18-2013, 10:10 PM
I may be wrong, but I believe every NFL stadium has to be individually licensed to be in NCAA Football so they probably didn't want to add more than they felt necessary.


I think they still have to re-license them for NCAA.

:D

OSUCowboyofMD
04-18-2013, 10:19 PM
Hopefully they can add The Edward Jones Dome and Chiefs Stadium next year too

Jayrah
04-18-2013, 10:27 PM
Hopefully they can add The Edward Jones Dome and Chiefs Stadium next year tooAnd Seahawks Stadium for WSU's annual Seattle Week "home" game

baseballplyrmvp
04-18-2013, 11:34 PM
Linemen can make calls to alert potential blitzers

is this user driven? or is it some random chatter thats called out? also, do linemen always guess right in identifying a blitzer or do they guess wrong resulting in pass protections getting screwed up?

OSUCowboyofMD
04-19-2013, 05:15 AM
I also noticed in this pic thst the Texas fans are on the wrong side of the Cotton Bowl

onikuno
04-19-2013, 10:21 AM
I also noticed in this pic thst the Texas fans are on the wrong side of the Cotton Bowl

Oh god...PLEASE don't be true. That has been SO ANNOYING. The fans flip flop every year in dynasty instead of staying in the proper side of the stadium. THIS IS NOT HARD! Is it too late to tell them to not screw this up?

dhook27
04-19-2013, 11:17 AM
can they at least bring back crowd meter in just rivarly games? Thats where the crowds are the most loudest.

GatorfanStovy
04-19-2013, 12:29 PM
Game is looking much better with the more screen shots and updated stuff .

goosedawg68
04-19-2013, 02:35 PM
Would anyone know if the stadium expansion for Mississippi State will be in this years game?

TIMB0B
04-19-2013, 08:38 PM
I was really hoping to get a fresh, new announce crew besides Kirk Herbstreit and Brad Nessler. I thought Nessler moved to the NFL Network to do the Thursday Night NFL games.
The thing is, when did Kirk and Brad ever announce together? The answer is never. As far back as I can remember, it was Nessler and Gary Danielsen, then him and Bob Griese for a long time, and now he's with Todd Blackledge(?). Herbstreit and Musberger currently announce together the ESPN Game of the Week i.e. College Gameday site (generally). Nessler never worked with Herbie. Danielsen is now with Lundquist on CBS doing SEC games since the mid-2000's.

If they're going to think about adding new announcers, they should think about adding conference network affiliates. Gus Johnson and Charles Davis on FOX? Lundquist and Danielsen on CBS?

Or keep it ESPN/ABC, and add more: Rece Davis with Pollack and Jesse Palmer on ESPN? Tessitore and Rod Gilmore? Sean McDonough and Chris Spielman?

Adding teams will keep it fresh, and the commentary won't be as redundant having different teams call your game according to your record and national ranking. This could also go hand-in-hand with the recruiting pitches: TV exposure and such.

Jayrah
04-19-2013, 10:03 PM
The thing is, when did Kirk and Brad ever announce together? The answer is never. As far back as I can remember, it was Nessler and Gary Danielsen, then him and Bob Griese for a long time, and now he's with Todd Blackledge(?). Herbstreit and Musberger currently announce together the ESPN Game of the Week i.e. College Gameday site (generally). Nessler never worked with Herbie. Danielsen is now with Lundquist on CBS doing SEC games since the mid-2000's.

If they're going to think about adding new announcers, they should think about adding conference network affiliates. Gus Johnson and Charles Davis on FOX? Lundquist and Danielsen on CBS?

Or keep it ESPN/ABC, and add more: Rece Davis with Pollack and Jesse Palmer on ESPN? Tessitore and Rod Gilmore? Sean McDonough and Chris Spielman?

Adding teams will keep it fresh, and the commentary won't be as redundant having different teams call your game according to your record and national ranking. This could also go hand-in-hand with the recruiting pitches: TV exposure and such.Not sure what this has to do with what I said... but you quoted me?

LeeSO
04-20-2013, 02:46 AM
There are also special storylines in store for the most dedicated Dynasty gamers. Some won’t become available until at least your 2nd year as a coach, while others take much more time to unlock.

I'm curious to see what this pertains to.

Jayrah
04-20-2013, 02:55 AM
There are also special storylines in store for the most dedicated Dynasty gamers. Some won’t become available until at least your 2nd year as a coach, while others take much more time to unlock.

I'm curious to see what this pertains to.A lot of people won't get far enough in their dynasties to unlock these... but I WILL!

TIMB0B
04-20-2013, 11:01 AM
Not sure what this has to do with what I said... but you quoted me?

I quoted the wrong person. I don't know how, but I did. Oops.

LeeSO
04-20-2013, 12:03 PM
A lot of people won't get far enough in their dynasties to unlock these... but I WILL!

I've only ever reached the threshold in Dyansty (60 years, if I recall correctly) once in all my years of playing NCAA football. I think that may change this year, with all of the stat overlays, player/team specific commentary, etc. It always started to feel stale after about 20-25 years for me.

Jayrah
04-20-2013, 12:10 PM
I've only ever reached the threshold in Dyansty (60 years, if I recall correctly) once in all my years of playing NCAA football. I think that may change this year, with all of the stat overlays, player/team specific commentary, etc. It always started to feel stale after about 20-25 years for me.
Holy biscuits... I was thinking more 10-15 seasons. We're about season 12 in our OD right now moving at a good clip. 60 seasons is craziness.

LeeSO
04-20-2013, 12:16 PM
Like I said, I've only ever done that once. It was the Summer of my 7th grade year, I had nothing else to do, lol.

SmoothPancakes
04-20-2013, 12:39 PM
Holy biscuits... I was thinking more 10-15 seasons. We're about season 12 in our OD right now moving at a good clip. 60 seasons is craziness.

Christ, I'm only in season 5 during the Tulsa years of my coaching carousel career dynasty. Technically I'm in season 8 if I count my three years at FIU on NCAA '12. :D Between playing 9 minute quarters, typing up play and drive summaries of every single drive in the game to post in my dynasty thread, etc, it takes 3+ hours just to play a single game. During a busy week, if I'm lucky, maybe I can get two games in during a given week.

Granted, if I was just playing the game, wasn't doing a dynasty thread, wasn't keeping track of all the action for game recap posts, etc, I could probably pound out some games at a fairly quick rate, since I wouldn't have to spend so much extra time typing out what happened play by play, and could possibly be maybe around season 10 or 12 right now. No way in hell would I ever hit the 60 season limit in a single version, not playing on 9 minute quarters. I'd either have to be not working for a full year, or play only a single edition for two or three years, skipping every single edition after that one for those couple years.

LeeSO
04-20-2013, 01:28 PM
Christ, I'm only in season 5 during the Tulsa years of my coaching carousel career dynasty. Technically I'm in season 8 if I count my three years at FIU on NCAA '12. :D Between playing 9 minute quarters, typing up play and drive summaries of every single drive in the game to post in my dynasty thread, etc, it takes 3+ hours just to play a single game. During a busy week, if I'm lucky, maybe I can get two games in during a given week.

Granted, if I was just playing the game, wasn't doing a dynasty thread, wasn't keeping track of all the action for game recap posts, etc, I could probably pound out some games at a fairly quick rate, since I wouldn't have to spend so much extra time typing out what happened play by play, and could possibly be maybe around season 10 or 12 right now. No way in hell would I ever hit the 60 season limit in a single version, not playing on 9 minute quarters. I'd either have to be not working for a full year, or play only a single edition for two or three years, skipping every single edition after that one for those couple years.

I was around 13-14 years old when I hit that 60 year mark. If I remember correctly, I probably only played 5-10 full games,lol. That was before I knew anything about the wonderful world of game settings, sliders, "cheesing", and all other competitive elements of the NCAA franchise.

dhook27
04-20-2013, 01:42 PM
I was around 13-14 years old when I hit that 60 year mark. If I remember correctly, I probably only played 5-10 full games,lol. That was before I knew anything about the wonderful world of game settings, sliders, "cheesing", and all other competitive elements of the NCAA franchise.
im 13 now how old are u?

LeeSO
04-20-2013, 01:50 PM
im 13 now how old are u?

24.

baseballplyrmvp
04-20-2013, 02:16 PM
I was around 13-14 years old when I hit that 60 year mark. If I remember correctly, I probably only played 5-10 full games,lol. That was before I knew anything about the wonderful world of game settings, sliders, "cheesing", and all other competitive elements of the NCAA franchise.

:D:D back when winning 255-0 was fun. lol

jaymo76
04-20-2013, 02:23 PM
Christ, I'm only in season 5 during the Tulsa years of my coaching carousel career dynasty. Technically I'm in season 8 if I count my three years at FIU on NCAA '12. :D Between playing 9 minute quarters, typing up play and drive summaries of every single drive in the game to post in my dynasty thread, etc, it takes 3+ hours just to play a single game. During a busy week, if I'm lucky, maybe I can get two games in during a given week.

Granted, if I was just playing the game, wasn't doing a dynasty thread, wasn't keeping track of all the action for game recap posts, etc, I could probably pound out some games at a fairly quick rate, since I wouldn't have to spend so much extra time typing out what happened play by play, and could possibly be maybe around season 10 or 12 right now. No way in hell would I ever hit the 60 season limit in a single version, not playing on 9 minute quarters. I'd either have to be not working for a full year, or play only a single edition for two or three years, skipping every single edition after that one for those couple years.

Most games I will get in 9-10 seasons. With 13 I am in season 8 and will probably get in one more. The only version I totally walked away from was NCAA 08 on 360... possibly the worst game ever (remember the red fire burst after a td... awful!).

LeeSO
04-20-2013, 02:26 PM
:D:D back when winning 255-0 was fun. lol

Exactly! I used to talk my daddy into playing me and I would make him run backwards when he was on Offense so I could get a safety and the 2 points. Same thing when he was on Kickoff return, he would run out of the back of the endzone. I also used to put my fastest player at QB and just run circles around the D.:P Hell, some people I've encountered online still do that.:mad:

OSUCowboyofMD
04-22-2013, 09:37 PM
Oh god...PLEASE don't be true. That has been SO ANNOYING. The fans flip flop every year in dynasty instead of staying in the proper side of the stadium. THIS IS NOT HARD! Is it too late to tell them to not screw this up?

Lol I know it's so frustrating smh :fp:


Would anyone know if the stadium expansion for Mississippi State will be in this years game?

No. Only completed projects are in the game

LeeSO
04-25-2013, 07:08 PM
http://media.operationsports.com/shots/1366396572thumbnail-media.jpg

I've recently read articles from two different sources concerning the players in this image NOT wearing their respective team uniforms. Anyone think this is final? Or maybe, HOPEFULLY, this was taken at a very, VERY early stage in the game. Honestly, I'm quite tempted to stop reading anything NCAA 14 related from other sources simply because everything I read on another site always has me thinking about crazy shit. There are some very, and I mean VERY hard critics out there talking about a game they have not even played yet.

SmoothPancakes
04-25-2013, 07:16 PM
Yes, most likely it was from a very early build and will show their correct uniforms in the actual game.

gschwendt
04-25-2013, 08:54 PM
I wouldn't expect them to show correct uniforms... That wasn't in in March and we didn't talk much presentation then, but since those are static images instead of 3d player menu models, that would require logic specific to determine at the very least default uniform color and code it to replace that white.

It could be done I'm sure, but then people would bitch that it doesn't have the Nike collar for Florida or "I never use the green Oregon jersey, why does it show".

At the end of the day, there are better ways to do it but I imagine it comes down to spending time on that or another aspect of presentation... or just not showing player images there at all.

Besides, with next gen, I imagine it will be all 3D player models all the time... what's one year.

LeeSO
04-25-2013, 09:03 PM
I wouldn't expect them to show correct uniforms... That wasn't in in March and we didn't talk much presentation then, but since those are static images instead of 3d player menu models, that would require logic specific to determine at the very least default uniform color and code it to replace that white.

It could be done I'm sure, but then people would bitch that it doesn't have the Nike collar for Florida or "I never use the green Oregon jersey, why does it show".

At the end of the day, there are better ways to do it but I imagine it comes down to spending time on that or another aspect of presentation... or just not showing player images there at all.

Besides, with next gen, I imagine it will be all 3D player models all the time... what's one year.

This isn't a dealbreaker for me by any means and thank you for your answer. I would rather they use just the head. Would it be possible to do that? I'm not one to gripe about small things, and I'm certainly not griping about this. Hell, I've seen that screen hundreds of times and and I never even noticed the generic white unis until I read an article ranting about it and how much EA sucks. I love this game, and I will buy it until I'm dead or they stop making it, whichever comes first.

Big Blue
04-25-2013, 09:05 PM
I'm sorry this is off topic but doesn't EA usually release gameplay during the draft?

LeeSO
04-25-2013, 09:07 PM
I'm sorry this is off topic but doesn't EA usually release gameplay during the draft?

They MAY release something tomorrow being the only thing we've had this week is the cover reveal. Don't hold me to this though. I'm salivating for more info.

gschwendt
04-25-2013, 09:08 PM
I'm sorry this is off topic but doesn't EA usually release gameplay during the draft?
No... they typically have had a pre-draft party the night before but this year they didn't. In the past, we haven't had any gameplay unveiled until middle of May or thereabouts. The problem with doing it this early is that it's not ready... it's not necessarily near the final product. Certainly by or around E3 (early June), we'll have seen plenty of gameplay, whether from EA or unofficial channels that play it at E3.

gschwendt
04-25-2013, 09:12 PM
This isn't a dealbreaker for me by any means and thank you for your answer. I would rather they use just the head. Would it be possible to do that? I'm not one to gripe about small things, and I'm certainly not griping about this. Hell, I've seen that screen hundreds of times and and I never even noticed the generic white unis until I read an article ranting about it and how much EA sucks. I love this game, and I will buy it until I'm dead or they stop making it, whichever comes first.
I don't think they could just show only the head but they could zoom in further or crop off more of the image. I think if it showed from the top of the collar up, it would look better... it would still show some white but it would be minimal and the head would be bigger anyway. That would likely be an easy enough fix and something I'll pass along as a suggestion.

LeeSO
04-25-2013, 09:14 PM
I don't think they could just show only the head but they could zoom in further or crop off more of the image. I think if it showed from the top of the collar up, it would look better... it would still show some white but it would be minimal and the head would be bigger anyway. That would likely be an easy enough fix and something I'll pass along as a suggestion.

Great, thanks man! :)

Big Blue
04-25-2013, 10:25 PM
Thanks for the help guys.

cdj
04-26-2013, 07:52 AM
A poll has been added to vote for your top three presentation related improvements. After voting, please let us know which items you chose and why.

LeeSO
04-26-2013, 09:45 AM
Neutral site games: To finally be able to play in the Chick-Fil-A kickoff classic is something I've wanted to do since it's inception several years ago.

Halftime show: Finally, a halftime show. I'm very interested to see how it is implemented. A Halftime show can never be a bad thing, right?

Dynamic loading screens: Finally, we don't have to just stare at a screen full of "tips" anymore. It's great having the lowdown on your game right in front of you.

SmoothPancakes
04-26-2013, 09:50 AM
Neutral site games, which is the #1 presentation add for me. Improved commentary, always a big plus. And I guess dynamic loading screens, as there's really nothing else on that list for me.

Halftime show, meh. I already don't pay attention to the studio updates other than to quickly look at the games/scores shown. Other than that, I have no damn clue what Rece even says in those updates because I'm not paying attention. I'm too busy typing up whatever just happened on the last play/drive. It'll pretty much be the same with halftime. I'll glance up for a half second to see any scores they show (if they show any), but otherwise, I probably won't be paying too much attention to what's going on on the screen.

CLW
04-26-2013, 11:43 AM
I wouldn't expect them to show correct uniforms... That wasn't in in March and we didn't talk much presentation then, but since those are static images instead of 3d player menu models, that would require logic specific to determine at the very least default uniform color and code it to replace that white.

It could be done I'm sure, but then people would bitch that it doesn't have the Nike collar for Florida or "I never use the green Oregon jersey, why does it show".

At the end of the day, there are better ways to do it but I imagine it comes down to spending time on that or another aspect of presentation... or just not showing player images there at all.

Besides, with next gen, I imagine it will be all 3D player models all the time... what's one year.

It's "odd" to me that a site (which 1st pointed that issue out) complains about EA "admitting" to using players "likness" (which is NOT what EA is/was doing in Court) and then the next week to complain b/c the "likeness" of the players they are showing aren't 100% accurate.

ram29jackson
04-26-2013, 01:56 PM
can you play neutral site games online ?

ram29jackson
04-26-2013, 01:58 PM
can you move the camera from left to right before the snap this time like you can in madden ?

ram29jackson
04-26-2013, 01:58 PM
what are team base layers ?

souljahbill
04-26-2013, 06:57 PM
what are team base layers ?

Those fancy undershirts that coordinate with the jerseys.

Deuce
04-29-2013, 08:40 AM
I'm sure someone would have mentioned it if it could be talked about but any word on Teambuilder updates? ...besides the 3 new stadiums.