View Full Version : PlayStation 4 - November 15, 2013
Official thread for announced & released info regarding the PlayStation 4
Watch today's event at one of the following links:
us.playstation.com (https://us.playstation.com/meeting2013/)
twitch.tv/playstation (http://www.twitch.tv/playstation)
IGN Livestream (http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/02/14/watch-the-220-playstation-event-on-ign)
IGN Live - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noRJ15T4qb4)
And we have sound. Woooo! :nod:
gschwendt
02-20-2013, 05:02 PM
Wow... a Sony event that ACTUALLY started right on time.
"We didn't build a box" :nod:
Escobar
02-20-2013, 05:05 PM
I can't get any of the streams to work they all seem overloaded. Twitch works for a few seconds then gets laggy
gschwendt
02-20-2013, 05:06 PM
I can't get any of the streams to work they all seem overloaded. Twitch works for a few seconds then gets laggy
The IGN Youtube one works best for me.
Vita able to be used to strengthen living room experience.
morsdraconis
02-20-2013, 05:09 PM
Son of a bitch. It's called PS4. :(
Shift from "box" to "leading authority on play"
Escobar
02-20-2013, 05:12 PM
The IGN Youtube one works best for me.
Got it. Now I have to pause it, because of the bandwith. I will be about 10 min behind while I go do something else. :smh:
PS4 5 years in the making
Nothing between you and the (new) game?
gschwendt
02-20-2013, 05:16 PM
8GB high speed RAM... thank you!
morsdraconis
02-20-2013, 05:17 PM
8 gigs of RAM? That's pretty meh.
boo no info about what type of "local HDD"
leak was right on dual shock 4
comes with a camera apparently
gschwendt
02-20-2013, 05:20 PM
8 gigs of RAM? That's pretty meh.
Considering it's high speed ram and added that they were long considering 4GB, I'll take it and be happy about it.
some sort of new wratchet & clank like game -- Knack
looks like the graphics of cut scenes are now capable "in real time"
gschwendt
02-20-2013, 05:24 PM
PS4 gives rudyjuly's in-game saves by default :)
digital titles playable while downloading
morsdraconis
02-20-2013, 05:25 PM
Holy shit. They integrated the Nintendo DS sleep mode into the PS4. That's actually pretty damn cool.
share button -- upload while you play
You can watch your friends play live, even jump into their games on the fly!
LMAO have trouble with a trophy? violator/iou available 24/7 for the low low price of....?
smart phones tablets can interact with PS4 -- learns your likes/dislikes
ok getting creepy now
predict what you will purchase so its loaded ready to go before you press the button!
morsdraconis
02-20-2013, 05:31 PM
predict what you will purchase so its loaded ready to go before you press the button!
That's pretty damn awesome, if the HD is a decent size. One would think, with that type of stuff, it's gotta be a terabyte unless they do some CRAZY shit with this cloud stuff they're talking about right now.
this shizzle is cool and creepy at the same time.
gschwendt
02-20-2013, 05:33 PM
That's pretty damn awesome, if the HD is a decent size. One would think, with that type of stuff, it's gotta be a terabyte unless they do some CRAZY shit with this cloud stuff they're talking about right now.Kinda sounds like he's talking about now... you'd just play the streaming version of the game while it's being downloaded.
morsdraconis
02-20-2013, 05:33 PM
Holy shit!
They're going diskless!!!!
try games out before you buy! pay only for the games you love!
I wanna go out right now and rip down the doors of Best Buy to buy this thing NOW!
Spectate - ask for help; talk trash; have your friend take over and assist.
morsdraconis
02-20-2013, 05:36 PM
Now you can watch that big OD game LIVE!
http://inavneetsingh.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Mind-Blown.jpg
Now you can watch that big OD game LIVE!
http://inavneetsingh.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Mind-Blown.jpg
Yep or watch it live on UStream! --- Or if your getting your but kicked by CDJ have IOU take over for you unknowingly. :nod:
play all ps4 games instantly on vita. Yep I'm buying a Vita when I buy my PS4. :nod:
PS4 is the server, Vita is the client.
Sony is knocking this MF'er out of the park. I cannot think of ANYTHING MS could do to up Sony right now.
PS1, PS2, PS3, PSP games available on PS4.
morsdraconis
02-20-2013, 05:40 PM
PS3 games not currently available, but possibly available (along with PS1, PS2, and PSP) via the cloud technology. Interesting stuff man. God damn Sony, you're hitting this shit out of the park so far.
morsdraconis
02-20-2013, 05:40 PM
Echo echo. ;)
"We can't reveal all the possibilities here today."
morsdraconis
02-20-2013, 05:42 PM
Ok Sony, now make some fuckin' games I want to play and you've got me. This shit is beyond damn cool.
is this thing really "no disc"? or are they just talking about disc + all of this?
gschwendt
02-20-2013, 05:45 PM
is this thing really "no disc"? or are they just talking about disc + all of this?
I can't imagine it's completely no disc... there are still a lot of people who don't have the console connected online at all.
morsdraconis
02-20-2013, 05:45 PM
is this thing really "no disc"? or are they just talking about disc + all of this?
They've said nothing about a Blu-Ray drive so far. It's certainly interesting.
morsdraconis
02-20-2013, 05:46 PM
I can't imagine it's completely no disc... there are still a lot of people who don't have the console connected online at all.
Why in god's name would you buy a PS4 and not connect it to the internet? I think Sony and Microsoft are basically going to say fuck those people.
"The future of PlayStation is about great games."
wtf my stream has gotten really laggy all of a sudden?
gschwendt
02-20-2013, 05:50 PM
This buffering shit is getting old...
morsdraconis
02-20-2013, 05:51 PM
Yeah, I'm watching the Twitch.tv/playstation version and it's gotten better than it was before.
morsdraconis
02-20-2013, 05:52 PM
Alright Killzone. This looks damn cool.
JBHuskers
02-20-2013, 05:52 PM
Holy shit Killzone looks amazing.
morsdraconis
02-20-2013, 05:53 PM
Wow. He just did some Crysis shit right there with the rifle to sniper change up. Man.
I OU a Beatn
02-20-2013, 05:53 PM
Holy shit.
JBHuskers
02-20-2013, 05:53 PM
This buffering shit is getting old...
I'm watching through GameTrailers...no buffering at all.
yeah it looks amazing over/under on how long i could "Play" it before throwing up 5 minutes :smh:
I'm watching through GameTrailers...no buffering at all.
Same.
Link: http://www.gametrailers.com/netstorage/psmeeting/index.html
morsdraconis
02-20-2013, 05:55 PM
(sigh) And then they CoD it up. (rolls eyes)
I OU a Beatn
02-20-2013, 05:55 PM
It looks SO different from all the other games. I dig it. I absolutely can't wait to play it.
nope drive club apparently -- 10 years?
morsdraconis
02-20-2013, 05:57 PM
Nope. Drive Club.
TGT Team Drive Club -- 1st rule about TGT Drive Club is you don't talk about TGT Drive Club! :nod:
JBHuskers
02-20-2013, 06:00 PM
Driveclub looks like it has Autolog on crack.
JBHuskers
02-20-2013, 06:00 PM
the auto customization is going to be f'n insane...
morsdraconis
02-20-2013, 06:01 PM
TGT Team Drive Club -- 1st rule about TGT Drive Club is you don't talk about TGT Drive Club! :nod:
:D Nicely done good sir.
gschwendt
02-20-2013, 06:05 PM
Infamous 3?
Infamous 3?
looks like it
bdoughty
02-20-2013, 06:07 PM
Images of new PS4 interface
http://i.imgur.com/txyEltk.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/xYYx6y4.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/O4DMGU8.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/lJhtBFp.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/4rq143x.png
JBHuskers
02-20-2013, 06:08 PM
Spawn of Cole?
Spawn of Cole?
i imagine sole. henry bale needs to join tgt and give violator a run for his $. :nod:
interesting concept -- open world but in small area.
yeah i think i'll pass on the witness unless i'm missing something
JBHuskers
02-20-2013, 06:15 PM
interesting concept -- open world but in small area.
25 Hours of gameplay is still beefy though.
gschwendt
02-20-2013, 06:15 PM
the Killzone video uploaded to Facebook...
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=113171115535029
gschwendt
02-20-2013, 06:18 PM
That's damn impressive.
morsdraconis
02-20-2013, 06:19 PM
Holy fuckin' shit. That's incredible looking. What DETAIL. Wow.
gschwendt
02-20-2013, 06:24 PM
Sculpt your own mascot for NCAA!!!
So I'm going to use the PS4 to sculpt?
gschwendt
02-20-2013, 06:25 PM
I didn't know Daryl Dixon was a video game developer!!!
Sculpt your own mascot for NCAA!!!
Please don't give them any ideas. :smh:
morsdraconis
02-20-2013, 06:26 PM
Man. That's pretty cool as well.
Good lord how long is this event?
PS4 will teach you Japanese!
morsdraconis
02-20-2013, 06:29 PM
Good lord how long is this event?
It's supposed to be about 2 hours long.
JBHuskers
02-20-2013, 06:29 PM
Good lord how long is this event?
At least two hours from what the guy said in the opener.
wow these games all look amazing!
morsdraconis
02-20-2013, 06:35 PM
Uh oh, Final Fantasy!
morsdraconis
02-20-2013, 06:38 PM
Nope. Just a cool lookin' cinematic.
JBHuskers
02-20-2013, 06:40 PM
Holy shit that Square Enix game looked insane.
morsdraconis
02-20-2013, 06:40 PM
Holy shit that Square Enix game looked insane.
Not a game. Just a cinematic showing the type of things that they can do with the technology.
JBHuskers
02-20-2013, 06:41 PM
good to hear developers saying that the system architecture is easy to use....
final fantasy coming this year
morsdraconis
02-20-2013, 06:42 PM
New Final Fantasy at E3. Figured.
JBHuskers
02-20-2013, 06:42 PM
Not a game. Just a cinematic showing the type of things that they can do with the technology.
I still got a boner.
EA going to come out tonight?
gschwendt
02-20-2013, 06:43 PM
Watch Dogs is a next gen title
gschwendt
02-20-2013, 06:44 PM
EA going to come out tonight?
I imagine they showcase Battlefield 4 at least.
morsdraconis
02-20-2013, 06:44 PM
Watch Dogs is a next gen title
:nod: Everyone knew that was gonna be the case, but it's good to hear that it's confirmed.
Yeah I'v heard allot of "buzz" about watchdogs but know clue what it is or about which prob means its a FPS that I cannot play.
morsdraconis
02-20-2013, 06:47 PM
HOLY...FUCK.... This is gonna be rad as hell!
Wow I'm gonna spend about $2K on launch with all these titles. :nod:
morsdraconis
02-20-2013, 06:52 PM
Yup! RAD...AS...HELL!
JBHuskers
02-20-2013, 06:52 PM
Damn on Watch_Dogs......that game is going to be sick.
JBHuskers
02-20-2013, 06:52 PM
FROM BLIZZARD :o
morsdraconis
02-20-2013, 06:52 PM
Blizzard?!!? What?!?!
gschwendt
02-20-2013, 06:53 PM
Loved me some Rock N' Roll Racing!!!
LMFAO! MS has its work cut out for it.
morsdraconis
02-20-2013, 06:54 PM
LOST VIKINGS 3!!!
If only. :D
morsdraconis
02-20-2013, 06:54 PM
Uggh... Diablo 3... (rolls eyes)
morsdraconis
02-20-2013, 06:57 PM
Call of Duty?!
JBHuskers
02-20-2013, 06:58 PM
Strategic partnership with Blizzard = sorry Microsoft....
I OU a Beatn
02-20-2013, 06:58 PM
DESTINY!
morsdraconis
02-20-2013, 06:59 PM
Holy hell, Bungie game is coming to PS4. Microsoft just fell flat on their faces. Wow.
and Sony has its "Halo" literally and figuratively........
gschwendt
02-20-2013, 07:02 PM
Why did his entourage need to step out on stage with him?
JBHuskers
02-20-2013, 07:02 PM
So I assume that the Infinity Ward guys who formed Respawn Entertainment will finally surface soon....
Thank you PS4 for allowing me to hit the 5K tgt post mark.
JBHuskers
02-20-2013, 07:03 PM
and Sony has its "Halo" literally and figuratively........
Well Destiny isn't exclusive. It'll be on MS's new console too.
gschwendt
02-20-2013, 07:03 PM
We haven't seen the actual look of the console...
Official announcement "coming Holiday 2013"
I OU a Beatn
02-20-2013, 07:03 PM
Holy hell, Bungie game is coming to PS4. Microsoft just fell flat on their faces. Wow.
Destiny was confirmed as a PS3/PS4/360/Xbox Next game quite awhile ago. However, Sony getting exclusive DLC is a pretty big deal for Sony. Good for them, I know which system I'm getting Destiny on now.
Holiday 2013 = May 27th right?
JBHuskers
02-20-2013, 07:04 PM
Thank you PS4 for allowing me to hit the 5K tgt post mark.
:clap:
morsdraconis
02-20-2013, 07:05 PM
And, there ya go. You're up Microsoft.
An absolute home run IMHO. It got me interested in titles I otherwise wouldn't and 100% sure launch day purchase for me.
morsdraconis
02-20-2013, 07:11 PM
There's no way I'd purchase it launch day (that shit is insane), but I'm gonna have to seriously contemplate things now.
Looks like Sony learned ALLOT about its "errors" last gen (easier to develop) focus on gaming was also a +
No more gamertags go by your real name.
JBHuskers
02-20-2013, 07:19 PM
There's no way I'd purchase it launch day (that shit is insane), but I'm gonna have to seriously contemplate things now.
I probably will. Through Amazon :D
Deuce
02-20-2013, 07:20 PM
I'll get it release day as long as I don't have to wait in line. Did they allow pre orders or the PS3?
I probably will. Through Amazon :D
better pre-order now b/c that bitch will sell out early i imagine. maybe i fell for the hype but i just imagine this being HUGE.
No more gamertags go by your real name.
I think PSN IDs will still exist, but users will be able to make their account more personalized with real name, pics, etc. (Could be wrong on that though.)
JBHuskers
02-20-2013, 07:23 PM
I'm not a Sony fanboy (though 75% of my gaming if not a little more is there), and I'm not a Microsoft hater (been a console owner since 2008). It just amazes me how much the MS fanboys came out of the woodwork on Twitter.
"Whole presentation is a fail because I didn't see the console"
:fp:
better pre-order now b/c that bitch will sell out early i imagine. maybe i fell for the hype but i just imagine this being HUGE.
I already started checking Amazon, but I don't think it will be available for pre-order until a cost/date are announced. (Online retailers don't use placeholder costs, do they?)
JBHuskers
02-20-2013, 07:23 PM
better pre-order now b/c that bitch will sell out early i imagine. maybe i fell for the hype but i just imagine this being HUGE.
I'll figure something out. :D
If I have to wait a week or a month, I can.
I'm not a Sony fanboy (though 75% of my gaming if not a little more is there), and I'm not a Microsoft hater (been a console owner since 2008). It just amazes me how much the MS fanboys came out of the woodwork on Twitter.
"Whole presentation is a fail because I didn't see the console"
:fp:
what do they want -- it to look like a blow up doll b/c they have no woman?
i didn't even notice this but it looks like the "share" stuff you can edit yourself. looks like my elgato is going to the trash.
Deuce
02-20-2013, 07:25 PM
I already started checking Amazon, but I don't think it will be available for pre-order until a cost/date are announced. (Online retailers don't use placeholder costs, do they?)
Ha ha...I checked 5 minutes ago. :D
I OU a Beatn
02-20-2013, 07:27 PM
I wasn't really impressed personally. Killzone looks amazing, but what else was there? Diablo 3? Played it on PC. Destiny will be absolutely amazing, but it'll be available on other systems. The little I saw of the interface looked nice, so that's a plus. It just seemed really bare bones to me.
BUT, I don't think Microsoft fans should be bashing anyone. I love my 360, but if the past 3 or 4 years is any indication, the next Xbox reveal will be centered around the casuals. I'm only buying one launch console, so unless Microsoft absolutely shocks me, Sony's going to get the initial nod it appears.
JBHuskers
02-20-2013, 07:29 PM
I wasn't really impressed personally. Killzone looks amazing, but what else was there? Diablo 3? Played it on PC. Destiny will be absolutely amazing, but it'll be available on other systems. The little I saw of the interface looked nice, so that's a plus. It just seemed really bare bones to me.
BUT, I don't think Microsoft fans should be bashing anyone. I love my 360, but if the past 3 or 4 years is any indication, the next Xbox reveal will be centered around the casuals. I'm only buying one launch console, so unless Microsoft absolutely shocks me, Sony's going to get the initial nod it appears.
What are your thoughts on Watch_Dogs? That's the money title for me so far.
I OU a Beatn
02-20-2013, 07:32 PM
What are your thoughts on Watch_Dogs? That's the money title for me so far.
Oh yeah, that looks amazing as well, but I'm positive it'll be available on the next Xbox as well. I expected more exclusive games. I'll admit I'm a little butt hurt they didn't show a SOCOM title, but oh well. I thought they should have focused more on titles that will ONLY be available on their system.
But like I said, I don't think there's any way Microsoft tops it. I had to laugh at Major Nelson's comment on Twitter about them not revealing a price or showing the hardware. Microsoft is so invested with the casual market that they've become delusional.
JBHuskers
02-20-2013, 07:37 PM
Oh yeah, that looks amazing as well, but I'm positive it'll be available on the next Xbox as well. I expected more exclusive games. I'll admit I'm a little butt hurt they didn't show a SOCOM title, but oh well. I thought they should have focused more on titles that will ONLY be available on their system.
But like I said, I don't think there's any way Microsoft tops it. I had to laugh at Major Nelson's comment on Twitter about them not revealing a price or showing the hardware. Microsoft is so invested with the casual market that they've become delusional.
No GT title either, they just may not be ready to show yet.
No GT title either, they just may not be ready to show yet.
they fear tgt drive club
JBHuskers
02-20-2013, 07:39 PM
they fear tgt drive club
Hell yeah. I'm stoked for that.
This thread is at 8 pages already :D from about 5 different posters :D
Hell yeah. I'm stoked for that.
This thread is at 8 pages already :D from about 5 different posters :D
Yeah the View to post thread is like 2/1 too.
JBHuskers
02-20-2013, 07:49 PM
Yeah the View to post thread is like 2/1 too.
I think the views takes a while to tabulate.
Video game insights and research firm Electronic Entertainment Design and Research (EEDAR) has weighed in on this morning's PlayStation 4 reveal.
EEDAR's vice president of insights Jesse Divnich said the industry has been starved of new technology and new properties for so long that Sony's timing in announcing its next-gen console was "perfect".
"We're excited and anxious," Divnich said.
"Judging by today’s presentation, Sony is putting a strong focus on game content and connectivity, which is the lifeblood of any platform, and we are ecstatic that an entirely new generation of content is right around the corner. Today's announcement is a silver lining in what has been a somber year in the news for console gaming."
Divnich also weighed in on Sony's decision to announce their next-gen console ahead of competitor Microsoft, saying that while there are pros and cons to being first on the market, the current climate shows there was a definite need for innovation. With console sales stagnating and consumer interest in high-definition gaming waning, Divnich said Sony made the right decision to announce the PS4 now.
"Sony's best chance at changing momentum is being first to market. We can't stress enough to our third-party publishers [that] if you take a wait-and-see approach to the next-generation of HD platforms you will be left behind."
On the new DualShock 4 controller, Divnich expressed some concern that it could become a gimmick. However, he stated that if developers could find a way to use the controller to give players an edge in certain games (quicker grenade tosses, camera angle movements, inventory access, etc.), the controller could become a deciding factor in consumers purchasing a PS4 version of a game over another platform.
However, Divnich praised the PS4's pause/resume feature, saying it will become one of the most "heavily utilized features" on the new platform.
Finally, Divnich said he was not surprised that Sony did not announce pricing for the PS4 just yet.
"For competitive reasons, I am not surprised that pricing was not discussed," he said. "I think Sony learned a valuable lesson with the launch of the PlayStation 3 and I wouldn't expect the same mistakes to be made next generation. We wouldn't expect pricing announcements until closer to launch."
Link: http://au.gamespot.com/news/analyst-sonys-timing-was-perfect-6404237?skipmc=1
NatureBoy
02-20-2013, 07:53 PM
Nothing really jumped at me to make me want to go out and buy this on release day. I'm only getting one new console this go around. I will wait and see what Microsoft has up it's sleeve before I comment to one or the other.
JBHuskers
02-20-2013, 07:53 PM
I don't see the controller as a gimmick, but more of a ease of use similar to the Vita when you toss a grenade in Call of Duty (for example).
SmoothPancakes
02-20-2013, 07:55 PM
I didn't watch the conference because the streaming was shitty as hell and lagging constantly. But sounds interesting from reading the last 9 pages. I'll have to go watch the videos of the conference later on, get the full details. Still no way in hell I'm buying a new console before 2015, but when I do jump to next gen, depending on how things actually are with the PS4 after it is released, I might have to give some serious consideration for a change to actually buying a PS4 along with a 720. Then it'd just be deciding what system would get what game purchases, because no way in fuck am I pissing away hundreds (and thousands) of dollars for two copies of the same damn game.
JBHuskers
02-20-2013, 07:55 PM
https://twitter.com/TheChrisGlass/status/304408636485140480
The PS4 still has a Blu-Ray drive, now has 802.11n, USB3, but only Bluetooth 2.1. Ew.
Amazon.com PS4 product page. Get e-mailed once it is available (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BGA9WK2/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00BGA9WK2&linkCode=as2&tag=thegamtai-20)
JBHuskers
02-20-2013, 08:06 PM
Signed up :up:
gschwendt
02-20-2013, 08:06 PM
Watch_Dogs out this year. Coming out for PS3, 360, WiiU, & PS4 (I'm sure 720 will be announced as well).
Signed up :up:
Wow release day delivery might save me from having to camp out 3 weeks in advance before Black Friday. :nod:
never brought up "used" games i'm sure that "issue" will come up @ E3
oweb26
02-20-2013, 08:17 PM
Nothing made me want to go out and buy it especially since I don't care about sharing anything.
Other ?: How does streaming the old PS1; PS2; PS3 games work? Do you have to buy the game again? Do you just pay for a service that gives you access to all these "classic" titles?
Other ?: How does streaming the old PS1; PS2; PS3 games work? Do you have to buy the game again? Do you just pay for a service that gives you access to all these "classic" titles?
They didn't clarify (that I heard), but it sounded like it might be a while before those old games are available.
They didn't clarify (that I heard), but it sounded like it might be a while before those old games are available.
yeah they definitely made that clear it wouldn't be 100% at launch but the ? remains how the hell do they know i own/owned a specific PS1; PS2; PS3 title.
JBHuskers
02-20-2013, 08:27 PM
I'll just be keeping the PS3 in the living room....for the time being at launch.
Amazon PS4 pre-order for Watch Dogs current price = $99.99
From the event:
http://youtu.be/5hjx2Sd52U4
http://youtu.be/7fMRYPZ4Jek
http://youtu.be/x7QhUL8NUK4
http://youtu.be/68h1DVCbMds
http://youtu.be/Tw1l_C4kXrg
Placeholder info regarding PS4 system and games will be humorous. Amazon using March 3, 2020 release date for console (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BGA9WK2/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00BGA9WK2&linkCode=as2&tag=thegamtai-20).
JeffHCross
02-20-2013, 08:54 PM
Considering it's high speed ram and added that they were long considering 4GB, I'll take it and be happy about it.Considering the PS3 has 256 MB, I'm very happy.
O.K. I think I'm done spamming the boards with threads for all the new titles.
O.K. I think I'm done spamming the boards with threads for all the new titles.
I appreciate you adding them. Spam away! ;)
New York Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/21/technology/sony-unveils-playstation-4-aiming-for-return-to-glory.html?_r=0
IGN:
Sony spent a lot of time at its Future of Playstation conference explaining in detail how Playstation Vita owners will be able to utilize their handheld as another option for experiencing Playstation 4 games.
On stage, other platforms like Apple's iPhone and iPad and Android handsets were only mentioned in passing. But in Sony Computer Entertainment's official press release more details were provided on what iOS and Android users have in store for them:
"A new application from SCE called 'PlayStation App' will enable iPhone, iPad, and Android- based smartphones and tablets to become second screens. Once installed on these devices, users can, for example, see maps on their second screens when playing an adventure game, purchase PS4 games while away from home and download it directly to the console at home, or remotely watch other gamers playing on their devices."
The news sounds very similar to Microsoft's SmartGlass initiative, announced at E3 2012.
Specific examples and availability details are not yet available. Sony will presumably have more to say about the second screen functionality in key PS4 titles as the console approaches its late 2013 launch.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/02/21/playstation-app-coming-to-iphone-ipad-and-android?utm_campaign=ign+main+twitter&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social
IGN:
Sony spent a lot of time at its Future of Playstation conference explaining in detail how Playstation Vita owners will be able to utilize their handheld as another option for experiencing Playstation 4 games.
On stage, other platforms like Apple's iPhone and iPad and Android handsets were only mentioned in passing. But in Sony Computer Entertainment's official press release more details were provided on what iOS and Android users have in store for them:
"A new application from SCE called 'PlayStation App' will enable iPhone, iPad, and Android- based smartphones and tablets to become second screens. Once installed on these devices, users can, for example, see maps on their second screens when playing an adventure game, purchase PS4 games while away from home and download it directly to the console at home, or remotely watch other gamers playing on their devices."
The news sounds very similar to Microsoft's SmartGlass initiative, announced at E3 2012.
Specific examples and availability details are not yet available. Sony will presumably have more to say about the second screen functionality in key PS4 titles as the console approaches its late 2013 launch.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/02/21/playstation-app-coming-to-iphone-ipad-and-android?utm_campaign=ign+main+twitter&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social
Well that's nice. Hoping the app will be free but even if not I would drop some change for that. EA could use it to show the live stats/box scores from games while you play Live 3017 :nod:
Link constantly updating, but here are some specs from IGN:
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/02/21/sony-details-playstation-4-processing-specs-dualshock-4-and-eye?utm_campaign=ign+main+twitter&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social
Sony has confirmed that the PlayStation 4 will be powered by a custom 8-core AMD "Jaguar" x86-64 with integrated graphics APU and "next-generation" AMD Radeon graphics processor capable of driving 1.84 teraflops. As detailed at the event, it will come paired with 8GB of dedicated GDDR5 memory, making it competitive with most gaming-focused PCs on the market. As expected, the system will ship with a Blu-ray drive, built-in 80.211 b/g/n Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 2.1, as well as HDMI, Analog-AV, and optical digital output. Sony is giving I/O options a boost with the inclusion of USB 3.0 ports and a mysteriously vague "AUX" port. Each system will ship a "Mono Headset" for cross-game chat and other social features.
What's more, we've gained new insight into the DualShock 4. As we know, the controller sports an integrated touch pad, headset jack, share button, and LED player identifier, but we've now learned that the touch pad features a mechanical button and supports "capacitive type." In addition to the obvious size and ergonomic changes, the DualShock 4 is expectedly gaining a bit of weight, going from 6.77 ounces on the DualShock 3 to 7.4 ounces on the DualShock 4. In addition to helping track a player for motion-based controls, the built-in LED can also be used to represent in-game elements, like a player's overall health.
Details were remarkably scant at the event regarding the PlayStation 4 Eye, which has been revealed as having a 1280x800 pixel sensor capable of capturing video at 60 frames-per-second — a significant gain over the Kinect's 640x480 30fps sensor. It can also be used to automatically detect players, though Sony hasn't detailed the exact application of the feature.
http://youtu.be/DrNkhxKkxf8
Link constantly updating, but here are some specs from IGN:
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/02/21/sony-details-playstation-4-processing-specs-dualshock-4-and-eye?utm_campaign=ign+main+twitter&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social
Sony has confirmed that the PlayStation 4 will be powered by a custom 8-core AMD "Jaguar" x86-64 with integrated graphics APU and "next-generation" AMD Radeon graphics processor capable of driving 1.84 teraflops. As detailed at the event, it will come paired with 8GB of dedicated GDDR5 memory, making it competitive with most gaming-focused PCs on the market. As expected, the system will ship with a Blu-ray drive, built-in 80.211 b/g/n Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 2.1, as well as HDMI, Analog-AV, and optical digital output. Sony is giving I/O options a boost with the inclusion of USB 3.0 ports and a mysteriously vague "AUX" port. Each system will ship a "Mono Headset" for cross-game chat and other social features.
What's more, we've gained new insight into the DualShock 4. As we know, the controller sports an integrated touch pad, headset jack, share button, and LED player identifier, but we've now learned that the touch pad features a mechanical button and supports "capacitive type." In addition to the obvious size and ergonomic changes, the DualShock 4 is expectedly gaining a bit of weight, going from 6.77 ounces on the DualShock 3 to 7.4 ounces on the DualShock 4. In addition to helping track a player for motion-based controls, the built-in LED can also be used to represent in-game elements, like a player's overall health.
Details were remarkably scant at the event regarding the PlayStation 4 Eye, which has been revealed as having a 1280x800 pixel sensor capable of capturing video at 60 frames-per-second — a significant gain over the Kinect's 640x480 30fps sensor. It can also be used to automatically detect players, though Sony hasn't detailed the exact application of the feature.
wonder if my uber expensive/nice Astro A40s will work on this new PS4? I believe the 360 aso has an audio jack on its controller. Crosses fingers.
I OU a Beatn
02-20-2013, 09:15 PM
wonder if my uber expensive/nice Astro A40s will work on this new PS4? I believe the 360 aso has an audio jack on its controller. Crosses fingers.
It has an optical digital out, so yes, it will definitely work.
Also, I don't hate that interface, but I don't really like it either. Guess I'm screwed when it comes to interfaces next gen. Either Sony's offering or Microsoft's God awful metro UI. *pukes*
JeffHCross
02-20-2013, 09:15 PM
Link constantly updatingI understand the need to get as many stories, with as many details, out to the public, but IGN is just a disaster right now with half-done articles and other articles that say, in a few paragraphs, what could easily be included in a single larger article.
Other websites aren't doing much better. I read an Ars Technica article that ended very strangely, like they didn't actually intend for it to end with that paragraph, and similar things other places.
It has an optical digital out, so yes, it will definitely work.
yeah i thought so but i'm not that tech savy. would much rather use the A40s than whatever cheap headset Sony puts in the box with the system.
I OU a Beatn
02-20-2013, 09:17 PM
yeah i thought so but i'm not that tech savy. would much rather use the A40s than whatever cheap headset Sony puts in the box with the system.
No doubt, I'm glad mine will work as well. I dropped $250 on a headset, I wouldn't have been happy if it was rendered useless after less than 2 years.
I OU a Beatn
02-20-2013, 09:20 PM
http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2013/02/aaaadualshock22-610x340.png
Now THAT looks good.
wonders if this "spectate" mode or whatever would apply to movies as well? wanna watch a movie with your buddy but he lives across the country no problem.
No doubt, I'm glad mine will work as well. I dropped $250 on a headset, I wouldn't have been happy if it was rendered useless after less than 2 years.
Yeah how much was the Elgato? although I suppose I can still use it on my PC and use it to record t.v. shows if i were to get a t.v. tuner on my p.c.
JeffHCross
02-20-2013, 09:36 PM
yeah i thought so but i'm not that tech savy. would much rather use the A40s than whatever cheap headset Sony puts in the box with the system.I didn't see the presser, so excuse me if they mentioned something, but I'd be very surprised to see a headset included.
wonders if this "spectate" mode or whatever would apply to movies as well? wanna watch a movie with your buddy but he lives across the country no problem.Not a chance. MPAA would tie that up in court for years. And Sony, probably more than anyone, knows it.
I didn't see the presser, so excuse me if they mentioned something, but I'd be very surprised to see a headset included.
IGN claiming:
Each system will ship a "Mono Headset" for cross-game chat and other social features. (Buried in post 190)
With Sony heavily touting the social aspects of the PS4, they almost have to include one.
gschwendt
02-20-2013, 09:38 PM
I didn't see the presser, so excuse me if they mentioned something, but I'd be very surprised to see a headset included.
Link constantly updating, but here are some specs from IGN:
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/02/21/sony-details-playstation-4-processing-specs-dualshock-4-and-eye?utm_campaign=ign+main+twitter&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social
Sony has confirmed that the PlayStation 4 will be powered by a custom 8-core AMD "Jaguar" x86-64 with integrated graphics APU and "next-generation" AMD Radeon graphics processor capable of driving 1.84 teraflops. As detailed at the event, it will come paired with 8GB of dedicated GDDR5 memory, making it competitive with most gaming-focused PCs on the market. As expected, the system will ship with a Blu-ray drive, built-in 80.211 b/g/n Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 2.1, as well as HDMI, Analog-AV, and optical digital output. Sony is giving I/O options a boost with the inclusion of USB 3.0 ports and a mysteriously vague "AUX" port. Each system will ship a "Mono Headset" for cross-game chat and other social features.
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JeffHCross
02-20-2013, 09:40 PM
That sounds like the old Playstation 2 official headset (http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-2-USB-Headset/dp/B00009YEK5). :D :D :D
I didn't see the presser, so excuse me if they mentioned something, but I'd be very surprised to see a headset included.
Not a chance. MPAA would tie that up in court for years. And Sony, probably more than anyone, knows it.
From the IGN article:
"Each system will ship a "Mono Headset" for cross-game chat and other social features."
Well what is to stop a gaming company (EA) from suing in Sony in court for allowing others access to its games w/o purchasing it 1st? Now the MPAA might very well do that but I don't see it as any different (legally) from people using a technology such as Skype/video conferencing to do the same thing. Now will Sony market it as such? No but it would be interesting to see and why would Sony stop people from doing that to its OWN pictures.
JeffHCross
02-20-2013, 09:45 PM
Well what is to stop a gaming company (EA) from suing in Sony in court for allowing others access to its games w/o purchasing it 1st?I'm expecting that the feature is going to be an opt-in and not every game will be required to support it. Also, I imagine the answer to that question is along the same lines as "what's to stop a gaming company from suing Hauppauge for allowing others to share footage from its games w/o purchasing it?"
I'd also contend, personally, that sharing the video from a game is not the same as experiencing or playing a game. Sharing audio or video from a MP3 or video is the entirety of the experience.
Now the MPAA might very well do that but I don't see it as any different (legally) from people using a technology such as Skype/video conferencing to do the same thing.I'm pretty sure the MPAA would argue that's illegal. It's just not widespread enough to warrant going after.
Now will Sony market it as such? No but it would be interesting to see and why would Sony stop people from doing that to its OWN pictures.And there's the rub. If it's marketed, it would be tied up in court. Maybe not if it slips past.
Sony Pictures is also not SCE. I would imagine even those two would struggle to see eye to eye on that.
I'm expecting that the feature is going to be an opt-in and not every game will be required to support it. Also, I imagine the answer to that question is along the same lines as "what's to stop a gaming company from suing Hauppauge for allowing others to share footage from its games w/o purchasing it?"
I'd also contend, personally, that sharing the video from a game is not the same as experiencing or playing a game. Sharing audio or video from a MP3 or video is the entirety of the experience.
I'm pretty sure the MPAA would argue that's illegal. It's just not widespread enough to warrant going after.
And there's the rub. If it's marketed, it would be tied up in court. Maybe not if it slips past.
Sony Pictures is also not SCE. I would imagine even those two would struggle to see eye to eye on that.
Well we don't know all the details but they mentioned that this "spectate" experience actually ALLOWS your friend to jump in and play YOUR game so it's the "entirety of the experience".
gschwendt
02-20-2013, 09:54 PM
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8509/8493790598_2828114625_h.jpg
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http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8380/8493790426_7aa90d4e13_h.jpg
Triggers don't look that different to me but maybe 360 people see a difference?
JeffHCross
02-20-2013, 09:57 PM
Well we don't know all the details but they mentioned that this "spectate" experience actually ALLOWS your friend to jump in and play YOUR game so it's the "entirety of the experience".Yeah ... I'm hesitating to believe that one. Again, probably an opt-in, if it's even half of what it claims.
JeffHCross
02-20-2013, 09:57 PM
Lol'd at this.
@KyleOrl How ridiculous is the PS4 hype? A video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-3GMHIgR-U&feature=share&list=PLol_ykYs3OQ7spG6H10jmHaP8mV-lBpti) that shows LITERALLY NOTHING has been watched 7 million times.
gschwendt
02-20-2013, 09:58 PM
Triggers don't look that different to me but maybe 360 people see a difference?
It's the small lip at the bottom... on the PS3, they continue to curve inwards (convex) where as on the PS4 they're concave.
Triggers don't look that different to me but maybe 360 people see a difference?
I think the 2s look small/easily missed. I had the after-market triggers on my PS3 controllers and can't play without them. I hope there is something comparable here.
It's the small lip at the bottom... on the PS3, they continue to curve inwards (convex) where as on the PS4 they're concave.
LOL o.k. and that makes a difference b/c it helps keep your fingers from slipping?
gschwendt
02-20-2013, 10:05 PM
LOL o.k. and that makes a difference b/c it helps keep your fingers from slipping?
Yeah, the $5 clip-on attachment makes all the difference on the ps3. I'd like more of a lip but it is an improvement.
149 third-party devs on-board for PS4 (http://zoknowsgaming.com/2013/02/20/149-third-party-game-developers-publishers-ps4/)
JeffHCross
02-20-2013, 10:06 PM
LOL o.k. and that makes a difference b/c it helps keep your fingers from slipping?Basically. Others just prefer the feel. But, for me, the big difference is slipping. I think the convex trigger is a more natural feel, but I have had my finger slip off during use, especially when I'm having to hold it for some function to work. Never had that problem on the 360.
JeffHCross
02-20-2013, 10:07 PM
149 third-party devs on-board for PS4 (http://zoknowsgaming.com/2013/02/20/149-third-party-game-developers-publishers-ps4/)To-do list for the weekend: Find out where all of those companies are.
I OU a Beatn
02-20-2013, 10:18 PM
149 third-party devs on-board for PS4 (http://zoknowsgaming.com/2013/02/20/149-third-party-game-developers-publishers-ps4/)
Interesting that Epic Games isn't on that list. I kind of thought something was up once a bunch of high profile developers started leaving Epic Games, but I wonder if Microsoft is in the process of buying them out. It would be smart, a lot of PS3 games are made using the Unreal Engine, and that would solidify Gears as a permanent 360 exclusive. Interesting.
More on the new camera (http://kotaku.com/5985804/first-look-at-the-playstation-4s-new-camera-[updated]?tag=playstation):
To go with the new PS4 controller, Sony also made brief mention tonight of a new camera that will also be released with the system. A revamped and improved version of Sony's camera tech, it'll serve as both a regular camera (for video purposes) while also tracking the movement of the new PS4 pad via its "light bar".
The big feature is the new "Share" button, which, Sony says, will allow gamers to capture and broadcast their gameplay in real-time to their friends through services such as uStream. "Share" also will allow gamers to upload their video performances to Facebook.
The PlayStation Eye camera also is getting an upgrade with the PS4. The "PlayStation 4 Eye" "incorporates two high-sensitive cameras that have wide-angle lenses with 85-degree diagonal angle views," according to a Sony news release. The augmented camera "enables PlayStation 4 Eye to cut out the image of player from background, or to grasp players position in front and behind,' says Sony. "In addition, users will be able to login to their PS4 with face recognition and are capable of using their own body movements or voices to enjoy games more intuitively."
The New PlayStation Eye will be able to detect the color on the DualShock 4 Light Bar "to judge the positions of multiple players, and set characters in the same positions or let a character talk to a particular player, enabling players to enjoy games in new way."
Additionally, the "DualShock 4" will feature a built-in speaker and headphone jack, offering stereo sound alongside multiplayer chat.
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Why no PS4 at the PS4 reveal? (http://kotaku.com/5985824/why-didnt-we-see-the-actual-playstation-4-tonight-sonys-boss-explains?tag=playstation)
Well, that was weird. We got a console reveal without Sony actually revealing the console. It's left a lot of people confused, maybe even concerned, so given the chance we had to ask: where was the PS4?
"Why do you care?" jokes Shuhei Yoshida, president of Sony's Worldwide Studios.
Pressed as to what we should be reading into when we get a console reveal without the reveal of the console itself, Yoshida tells Kotaku "It was almost the other way around. When we planned for this event, obviously we discussed what we should show and talk about."
"As far as the DualShock 4 is concerned we wanted to do the live demo. And we were like, yeah, we have to show the controller, because it's awkward not to show the controller when someone is doing a demo. And also the feature that the DualShock 4 has, the share button, is a very key idea behind the design of the PS4... We really wanted to explain what we've done with the DualShock 4, but as far as the system itself we have to keep something new for later. Otherwise you'd get bored."
I would guess the final design is not set in stone. Some speculate Sony may be hiding the fact there is no optical drive, but I doubt that is the case.
SmoothPancakes
02-20-2013, 10:58 PM
Amazon PS4 pre-order for Watch Dogs current price = $99.99
I'm guessing for now that's just a placement price for the time being and it'll be updated later, but that does raise the question, will we see an increase in prices for new games with the next-gen consoles? We saw games go up to $60 with the current gen, an increase in prices with the PS4/720 certainly wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility.
I OU a Beatn
02-20-2013, 11:36 PM
Sony Worldwide Studios boss Shuhei Yoshida has told Eurogamer that PlayStation 4 will not block the use of second-hand games, contrary to various reports, speculation and even a Sony patent unearthed last month.
I sat down with Yoshida a few hours after the PS4 reveal tonight and one of the first things I asked was whether used games would be blocked.
"Do you want us to do that?" he asked.
No, I said. I think, if you buy something on a disc, that you have a kind of moral contract with the person you've bought it from that you retain some of that value and you can pass it on.
Do you agree, I asked?
"Yes. That's the general expectation by consumers," said Yoshida. "They purchase physical form, they want to use it everywhere, right? So that's my expectation."
So if someone buys a PlayStation 4 game, I asked, you're not going to stop them reselling it?
"Aaaah," was Yoshida's initial answer, but seemingly only because he'd forgotten his line. "So what was our official answer to our internal question?" he asked his Japanese PR advisor. The advisor stepped in but didn't seem to answer clearly, at least to my ears. Yoshida then took control again firmly:
"So, used games can play on PS4. How is that?"
I said I thought that was fine.
Interestingly, I also spoke to a Sony source elsewhere at the event this evening who told me that the anti used-game patent discovered last month was actually nothing to do with PlayStation 4 at all.
The patent suggested that discs would come branded with a contactless tag that could be recognised and read by your console, which would then bind it to you and prevent you from selling it on.
But whatever reason Sony did have for patenting it, it sounds like it wasn't for its next-generation console. Hopefully Microsoft will also avoid this ludicrous technology with its next-generation Xbox as well.
Eurogamer (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-02-21-sony-tells-eurogamer-playstation-4-will-not-block-used-games)
steelerfan
02-21-2013, 12:56 AM
Good news - I'm :sf: - fuck you, The Man.
Better news - though I didn't watch any if this shit, I don't have to worry about buying this thing until FIFA 15 releases in September of 2014.
Either way, I'm a PlayStation guy and I'll buy the motherfucker at some point. PS4, here we go. :up:
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morsdraconis
02-21-2013, 05:01 AM
:D
psusnoop
02-21-2013, 06:33 AM
Good news - I'm :sf: - fuck you, The Man.
Better news - though I didn't watch any if this shit, I don't have to worry about buying this thing until FIFA 15 releases in September of 2014.
Either way, I'm a PlayStation guy and I'll buy the motherfucker at some point. PS4, here we go. :up:
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hmm.........internet :dunno:
"Used games can play on PS4" -- doesn't mean you won't have to pay $ before they will play though I suppose.
Following up on IOUs post, here is the full Eurogamer interview with Yoshida. (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-02-21-the-big-interview-sonys-shuhei-yoshida-on-ps4)
- Being 'always connected online' is not required, but recommended.
- Goal is to have firmware download in background so users do not have to wait to play. (Similar to PS+ autodownloads.)
More 'highlights' below:
Eurogamer: Does the console always need to be connected to the internet?
Shuhei Yoshida: You can play offline, but you may want to keep it connected. The system has the low-power mode - I don't know the official term - that the main system is shut down but the subsystem is awake. Downloading or updating or you can wake it up using either the tablet, smartphone or PS Vita.
Eurogamer: Are all of those things optional? For people who have broadband data limits, for example? They can customise everything?
Shuhei Yoshida: Oh yes, yes, you can go offline totally. Social is big for us, but we understand there are some people who are anti-social! So if you don't want to connect to anyone else, you can do that.
Eurogamer: Which things will definitely be there day-one and which things might take a little longer?
Shuhei Yoshida: Some of the things Dave [Perry] talked about, like cloud gaming, he talked more about visions like "Everything Everywhere", which is the ultimate goal, but we have to start from somewhere.
Eurogamer: So the Gaikai trials on the store and background downloading based on algorithms that compute what you want and what you're doing - those things will definitely be there from day one?
Shuhei Yoshida: Well, we are still in development so we need to wait for the final system to be able to talk about it.
Eurogamer: When will you know the answer? Will you know it at E3?
Shuhei Yoshida I hope so! I hope by E3 most of the things are already in final form.
Eurogamer: Will you have to announce the date, price and launch games at E3?
Shuhei Yoshida Yep, that's possible. We don't decide these things until much closer, so we have no plan or no date set for announcing these things.
Eurogamer: Yes, I imagine he's very busy at this point... Are you going to change the way that you do PSN so there's a subscription multiplayer service like Xbox Live? Because that's the rumour today.
Shuhei Yoshida: We are still working on service plans or features so we are not ready to talk about that yet.
Eurogamer: On that note, you didn't compete that much for third-party exclusive games last time, but Microsoft definitely went after third-party exclusive DLC. Will you pursue that more aggressively this time?
Shuhei Yoshida: I'm not directly managing third-party relations, but it's my understanding that it was too expensive already in PS3 days to ask for exclusive titles, so what we could ask for reasonably from third-party publishers is to create either something [in] content or some features that are exclusive to our platform, and if our system had something very unique it's easier to ask for, but if it's not much different then it's harder to ask for.
Eurogamer: But it does seem like Microsoft really is asking, regardless of whether they're doing anything different. They're still going to Rockstar and Call of Duty and saying, help us out, give us 30 days of exclusivity or a year, and it seems perceptually - maybe not at a business level, I don't know - but perceptually as though it's given them an edge.
Shuhei Yoshida: So I don't know how the third-party relations guys are talking internally, but how I look at it is that I know these guys are really hard-working to visit developers and ask what it is they want us to do for them. I think we are a very much developer-focused company now compared to past efforts, and I hope it can have a lasting effect in developers, especially the independent and small developers. These people are less business-driven. They want to make games they want to make and sometimes they choose partners based on how they feel and the chemistry, so I think our guys are very focused to reach out and talk to these people.
Eurogamer: [At this point I'm hassled to wrap things up, so I asked for one more question.] Recently a lot of small or medium sized developers have moved away from home consoles to Steam or iOS or Android. What are you doing to bring them back? Is the self-publishing thing an example of that?
Shuhei Yoshida: Yes, that's a big part - a digital platform. There are many things we can do better to make it much more developer-friendly, instead of publishing on PlayStation Network, so it's more our focus - how we can make it easier for small developers to work with us to bring the content to PlayStation 4.
Eurogamer: Have you defined how the self-publishing process will work? Do you need a developer kit to develop for PS4 if it's based on PC architecture?
Shuhei Yoshida: So we are doing something like that with PlayStation Mobile and it's purely software development.
Eurogamer: So it will be possible to develop for PS4 even if you don't have a developer kit as well?
Shuhei Yoshida: Aaah, so we have to see... It depends on how we define the layer. The way we are approaching PS4 now is allowing developers to go really deep onto the metal, so Richard [Leadbetter of Digital Foundry] will know how that availability to the deeper hardware makes the console games way better than some PC or mobile approach. But if we do that, it will definitely require hardware to develop games.
http://youtu.be/XlFN6J6ixwo
psusnoop
02-21-2013, 08:02 AM
I can't wait for this!! Just watched finally and WOW. I'm looking forward to this big time, my wife not so much :D:D
http://youtu.be/LpWhPgEWGB8
skipwondah33
02-21-2013, 08:06 AM
So yeah I didn't get to watch any of the event
Just got bits and pieces of it this morning
At this point from the information I know now take the money now!!! I want it
I was getting it anyway but holy hell I cannot wait.
Think I'm going the Amazon route as well, no way I can see camping outside or waiting in line. Based on last release of the PS3, fights, robberies and assaults would ensue.
I can't wait for this!! Just watched finally and WOW. I'm looking forward to this big time, my wife not so much :D:D
lol my wife said last night, "oh God is it time for another play station ... please just order it from amazon so you don't have to camp out at best buy" Conceding defeat instantaneously FTW! :nod:
PS4 & Killzone: Shadow Fall will be on Late Night with Jimmy Fallon tonight.
http://youtu.be/ugHqK4IUFnw
Sony: PSN games won't transfer to the PS4, nor will your game saves (http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/21/sony-psn-games-wont-transfer-to-ps4/)
Sony: PSN games won't transfer to the PS4, nor will your game saves (http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/21/sony-psn-games-wont-transfer-to-ps4/)
wow that's a bit of a bummer with all of my free PS+ titles so I guess I need to get busy on actually playing these games.
psusnoop
02-21-2013, 08:32 AM
lol my wife said last night, "oh God is it time for another play station ... please just order it from amazon so you don't have to camp out at best buy" Conceding defeat instantaneously FTW! :nod:
Yeah used the link CDJ posted earlier so I'm going to go the Amazon route as well. I can't wait!!
xMrHitStickx904
02-21-2013, 09:10 AM
Watched the press conference yesterday, and I came away super impressed actually. I went from playing PS2 pretty much exclusively, to playing the Xbox 360 almost exclusively with these generation of consoles, so I was interested in what I was going to see. Quite honestly, Microsoft was its' work cut out for it. Sony definitely has learned from its' last gen mistakes, so no doubt in my mind that party chats will be in for the PS4. It looks easy to develop for, the 8 GB of unified memory is great, and I love the Nintendo DS "Sleep" function being integrated into the PS4. Instead of game developers integrating in-game saves, PS4 will do that for us. Also, I love the streaming capability as well. I have to believe that there will be a way to make it private, and password/invite only so you can control who sees your stream when you play. It's great for Madden, NCAA, FIFA etc. because now I don't have to necessarily buy a elgato, even though they will still be in demand. I like that DualShock4 will be a heavier controller with better triggers, it was my only gripe with the controller versus the 360 version. I'll be especially glued to E3 this year, that's when the system should be revealed along with prices and other special features.
JBHuskers
02-21-2013, 09:19 AM
I guess I'll just keep the PS3 on the same TV cart for a while now that I heard about the PSN purchases.
EDIT: I figured I would anyways since backwards compatibility isn't really going to be an option either.
More details about the Dual Shock 4:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-57570456-1/finer-details-about-playstation-4s-dualshock-4-controller-eye-camera/
Small roundtable this morning with Yoshida. Courtesy GameSpot (http://www.gamespot.com/features/playstation-meeting-2013-ps4-announcement-6403818/?tag=Topslot;Playstation4AnnouncementRecap;Playsta tion4Announcemen):
- Will PS4 allow used games, a reporter asks? Yoshida says that when you purchase a disc-based games on PS4, that "should work" on any hardware.
- Why was the hardware not on show last night? Yoshida says he is sorry for not showing the hardware last night and notes that the final hardware is not finalized.
- Asked about pricing, Yoshida says Sony is eyeing an "affordable price" for the system.
- Asked about PS3 investment continuing in the wake of PS4 announcement. He says Last of Us and Beyond: Two Souls are two big titles, but no further titles for PS3 have been announced.
- Yoshida shoots down speculation that Beyond: Two Souls is coming to PS4. "It's not," he says.
- Talking about simultaneous development for PS3 and PS4, Yoshida says Sony has not done this outside of sports titles.
- Will Gaikai support be available at launch? Yoshida says every PS4 title will be available to play through Remote Play on PS Vita. At least that's the ambition. "I would be heart-broken" if all PS4 games don't play on PS Vita at launch.
- Regarding activation codes for used games, Yoshida said "we are not talking about that."
- Will PSN remain free? Yoshida says it's not already free, pointing to PS Plus. He says Sony wants to provide more services, functionality, and content through PSN, but won't say if this will cost an extra fee. "We are not ready to talk about that yet."
- Is this the last of the PS4 we see before E3? Yoshida says "I hope not," looking at PR person.
- Will PS Vita get a price cut in the West? Yoshida says the price cut is not coming to other regions.
- Is region-locking going to be a feature of PS4? Yoshida says he knows the answer, but will not talk about it just yet.
- PS4 does not support DualShock 3, he says. But your Move controllers will still work.
- What about that new PlayStation Eye camera we saw last night? Yoshida says "we are not yet ready to talk about what's in the box."
- The name of the new Eye device is PlayStation 4 Eye. It has two cameras, which can be used in different ways. One of which is triangulation. Face-tracking will be much more robust, he says. The other use of the PS4 Eye's two-camera approach will help with augmented reality games, like Wonderbook.
- Is Last of Us going to see a release on PS4? Yoshida says Sony is interested in releasing the game on two platforms, but no decisions have been made. In general, this is not Sony's focus, Yoshida explains
- Does PlayStation 4 support 4K? The PS4 supports 4K output, Yoshida says, but games do not.
- Asked about the strategy of having Gran Turismo and Drive Club in a time when racing games may be fading, Yoshida says both games can exist. Yoshida name-checks Gran Turismo 6. Asked about the similarities between Gran Turismo and Drive Club, Yoshida says Sony is not ready to talk specifics about the two games.
- What's going on with 3D? Will it be emphasized on the PS4? Yoshida says it is not a focus for the PS4, though it still will support the technology.
- Now talking about the PS4 hard drive, Yoshida said it is Sony's "dream" that gamers will fill up their hard drives, though he won't comment on whether or not interchangeable storage will be available.
- Talking now about technological advancements for the PS4, Yoshida explains graphical fidelity is important, but other experiences--like social--are as well. Yoshida says the PS4 will embrace free-to-play, social, and other new types of games.
JBHuskers
02-21-2013, 10:13 AM
My take on game prices. First off, I can't believe people were making stories out of Amazon's placeholders :fp:, second, the development costs and ease of developing is going to be easier. Graphically, it's not a gigantic leap, it just can process a hell of a lot more; hence, I think games are going to stay at $60, maybe even more releases levitating back to $50.
Let's remember brand new NES games back in the day were $50 and $60. I honestly think that price point is going to stick throughout time.
texacotea
02-21-2013, 10:13 AM
Yeah used the link CDJ posted earlier so I'm going to go the Amazon route as well. I can't wait!!
please point me to this post, I am too lazy to go through all of it
JBHuskers
02-21-2013, 10:14 AM
More details about the Dual Shock 4:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-57570456-1/finer-details-about-playstation-4s-dualshock-4-controller-eye-camera/
http://asset0.cbsistatic.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2013/02/21/8493772384_fcfdd918ab_o_610x671.jpg
This view of the controller makes me think I won't have to purchase trigger add-ons, or at least it will be better than it was on the DS3. If the same company makes trigger add-ons for the DS4, I'll still buy them because of how happy I was with them.
please point me to this post, I am too lazy to go through all of it
here you go (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BGA9WK2/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00BGA9WK2&linkCode=as2&tag=thegamtai-20)
JBHuskers
02-21-2013, 10:17 AM
More details about the Dual Shock 4:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-57570456-1/finer-details-about-playstation-4s-dualshock-4-controller-eye-camera/
The DualShock 4's new light bar contains three color LEDs and corresponds with the PlayStation Move motion capture interface. The LED array can change colors to match the color of a character in a video game, or alert a player to an important situation -- for example, a flashing pattern when you near death.
This will be cool for RPG's where it'll change color or flash when an enemy engages you.
Or say the playclock is running down in a football game.
When you're low on ammo.
The possibilities with this are endless, I love it.
This will be cool for RPG's where it'll change color or flash when an enemy engages you.
Or say the playclock is running down in a football game.
When you're low on ammo.
The possibilities with this are endless, I love it.
Or it turns red if a grenade is thrown and lands near you....you're right, the potential is endless. Great add.
This will be cool for RPG's where it'll change color or flash when an enemy engages you.
Or say the playclock is running down in a football game.
When you're low on ammo.
The possibilities with this are endless, I love it.
Yeah lots of possibilities but the ? is will developers (EA) take advantage of them or screw the pooch. I already mentioned EA using PS4's tablet/smart phone PSN app to allow for a live box score for all sports games while you are playing.
ryby6969
02-21-2013, 10:20 AM
I am never looking at my controller when I play so I do not see how this will help/hurt me. Cool idea, but not sure it will be useful for me.
JBHuskers
02-21-2013, 10:27 AM
I am never looking at my controller when I play so I do not see how this will help/hurt me. Cool idea, but not sure it will be useful for me.
Peripheral vision will allow you to see that LED light I'm assuming.
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