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I OU a Beatn
07-15-2010, 10:55 PM
This is like the 5th time in the past 2 days I wanted to post something here, but it wouldn't really fit the category of any of the threads already here, so I just didn't post it. Well, enough of that. Not only am I killing the potential for my post count to rise( :P), but I can't get what I want to say off my chest.

SO...this thread is for random talk.

Personally, I'm a little baffled at myself. I absolutely can NOT blow anyone out. I'm currently on a 5 game winning streak, and every single one of those came down to the wire. I have no fingernails left, I have no gum left, so I really can't handle these stressful games.

Just like my last game. I was using Oregon and on my first drive, went right down the field and was inside the 15. I called a passing play, waited..waited..waited..and no one got open, so I tucked it and took it with the QB. I was at about the 3, saw a defender coming, and dove...FUMBLE. The guy picks it up in the endzone and gets a touchback. I personally thought it was a touchdown, but the refs did not.

I did not score a touchdown the rest of the game until 2 minutes left in the game. I eventually won 10-9 as he went down the field, scored, and almost got the 2 point conversion. I've done that like 5 times already this year. I light someone up on the first drive or two, and then I die for the rest of the game until I need to pull it out of my ass, which I usually find a way to do. :D

I really do think a lot of it has to do with the playbook I'm using. If my run game isn't working, then I quickly begin to suck.

Kingpin32
07-15-2010, 11:46 PM
A lot of my games have been like that. Usually I start a drive out really good, and then fizzle out in the redzone by either throwing a pick or fumbling or having to kick a field goal. I always try to get the run game going early, but sometimes I get too pass happy and forget about it.

I OU a Beatn
07-15-2010, 11:50 PM
I have the opposite problem. I usually tear people up early with the run game and then they start playing the run, and with the playbook I'm using, if they stop the run, I'm screwed. Oregon just doesn't have a whole lot of exotic or varied pass plays, and it's extremely to pick up on. Maybe it's time for a playbook change. I'd LOVE to use Texas Tech's playbook, but I want that power shotgun running game and they definitely don't have it. Ahh, decisions, decisions...

I'd love to be able to run 40+ times a game and not have to worry about passing, but most people adjust. :(

Kingpin32
07-15-2010, 11:59 PM
I have the opposite problem. I usually tear people up early with the run game and then they start playing the run, and with the playbook I'm using, if they stop the run, I'm screwed. Oregon just doesn't have a whole lot of exotic or varied pass plays, and it's extremely to pick up on. Maybe it's time for a playbook change. I'd LOVE to use Texas Tech's playbook, but I want that power shotgun running game and they definitely don't have it. Ahh, decisions, decisions...

I'd love to be able to run 40+ times a game and not have to worry about passing, but most people adjust. :(

I'm facing the exactly dilemma. I've been using Oregon's playbook a lot, and I played 2 games with TTU's playbook and I'm not sure what I want to do yet. I wish there was a playbook that mixes TTU's pass plays with Oregon's run plays.

I OU a Beatn
07-16-2010, 12:01 AM
I've been seriously considering switching to TTech's playbook, but having used a similar offense in past years of the game, I know how risky that is. At least with Oregon's there is SOME balance there if my opponent should try to completely take something away. If I were to switch to an Air Raid and play something who goes all out pass every single play and I can't establish some sort of running game, then I'll be screwed. I've been messing around with their playbook for the past hour or so in practice, though, and I REALLY like it.

Kingpin32
07-16-2010, 12:03 AM
I'll probably play a little bit more with it, and maybe some of the other Air Raid team's playbooks. It seems like UofH has nice playbook too. And now that I think about it, BYU's playbook isn't half bad either.

I OU a Beatn
07-16-2010, 12:05 AM
I like Houston's, too. Theirs is probably more of a mix of Oregon and Texas Tech than anyone other teams. I haven't tried BYU yet, but I'll probably get to them sooner or later. I might even look at SMU for some Run 'n' Shoot offensive action. Of course, if using the Air Rad online is risky, using the Run 'n' Shoot is practically like walking a tight rope.

I OU a Beatn
07-16-2010, 11:24 AM
Went online with Houston and their playbook against Michigan. Exploded for my highest point total and yardage total so far with 42 and 491.

texacotea
07-16-2010, 12:28 PM
Been using utah sts PB lately and I enjoy it alot, got a little of everything in it

I OU a Beatn
07-16-2010, 01:58 PM
Dime Cover 2 Man is garbage. That's all.

I OU a Beatn
07-16-2010, 02:38 PM
I've been messing around with the Multiple playbook, and wow. That is like the East Room player's dream. It has a few Ace formation, a few I Formation, a few Strong, a few Weak, a Wishbone, a Flexbone, and about 7 shotgun formations including Shotgun Tight.

I OU a Beatn
07-16-2010, 03:24 PM
Just used the Multiple playbook online. Didn't do too bad:

220 yards rushing on 22 carries. 1/2 passing for 37 yards. 27-3 win.

kdog36
07-17-2010, 07:16 AM
Can someone with connections (CDJ) PLEASE answer why they cant get the online weather correct. It works offline but why can't it work online or why doesn't it.
thanks ahead of time.

I OU a Beatn
07-24-2010, 01:51 PM
Running out of shotgun is so inconsistent. I have games where I run for over 200 yards with ease and totally dominate the game, and then I'll turn around and average like 2 yards per carry and not get a single thing done in the run game. Ugh. /confused.

Escobar
07-25-2010, 12:08 AM
Same here. Some games I'll dominate and only have to throw 10 passes the whole game. Then there are some where I can't get any run game going and struggle on O.

JeffHCross
07-25-2010, 01:16 AM
IOU, another playbook to consider, at least based on NCAA 10, is Auburn/Tulsa. I don't know what they look like this year, but last year they both had a very good mix of Shotgun running and passing.

I OU a Beatn
07-25-2010, 12:18 PM
I gave up on shotgun running. The blocking is completely fucked up, so there's really no sense of trying to force something that I know isn't going to work. If my opponent pinches the line and fans then out, it doesn't matter what they're running or what I'm running, I'm going to be tackled for little or no gain. All the games I've lost this year was because the opponent would just sit in Dime and do what I said and not only be protected against the pass, but the run as well. Just ridiculous. I wonder if EA is ever going to get shotgun run blocking correctly designed. Probably not.

ram29jackson
08-01-2010, 08:54 PM
I gave up on shotgun running. The blocking is completely fucked up, so there's really no sense of trying to force something that I know isn't going to work. If my opponent pinches the line and fans then out, it doesn't matter what they're running or what I'm running, I'm going to be tackled for little or no gain. All the games I've lost this year was because the opponent would just sit in Dime and do what I said and not only be protected against the pass, but the run as well. Just ridiculous. I wonder if EA is ever going to get shotgun run blocking correctly designed. Probably not.

even though I lose to you, I dont think my shotgun runs are half bad haha.

even if I only get 2 or 3 yards, the point is to make the other guy think I might run.

of course none of that matters if they are a blitz happy cheeser anyway hah

JeffHCross
08-01-2010, 09:14 PM
IOU, the key with Auburn/Tulsa is that it's downhill Shotgun running, not Read Option / Outside running. The Dime/Fan strategy might still work, but I would think it would be a lot less successful.

I OU a Beatn
08-02-2010, 08:43 PM
Yep, I just played my last online game of NCAA this year against texaco. Right on schedule with the past 4 years, I last about a month.

It has absolutely nothing to do with him, either. He's probably the straightest person I've played all year. He even apologized for running with the QB after he stood in the pocket for 5 seconds and no one got open. :D

I just find it absolutely ridiculous that I have to put up with the bullshit that this game comes up with. I had a 3rd and 1. I run a 5 wide QB Power. He brings 4 DL and then one LB. I have 5 lineman. He comes in completely untouched to tackle me behind the line. That's the biggest WTF that I continually see. EA has never and never will get their stupid run blocking correct. If it was a once in awhile thing, sure, but it's not.

EA also managed to fuck up the deep ball and when it puts touch on the ball. 4 or 5 times I caught him in zone and had a seam route called, only to watch my 90+ rated QB overthrow the ball and get it picked off. The one time he manages to actually hit the guy, he decides to drop the ball, has the ball warp though his stomach to his back, where tex's DB scoops it up. That's the shit I'm talking about. A guaranteed touchdown leads to a change of possession because of a dropped ball and a completely fucked animation.

I'm so sick of it that I'm not even going to finish the tournament when I have a legitimate chance to win and get Madden. Why? Because I don't even care about Madden. I say this every year and every year I give in because I want a decent football game, but EA will never get it. They simply do not know how and do not care to learn how to make a football game. /Rant

texacotea
08-02-2010, 09:19 PM
yea, those picks were kinda outrageous especially the one off the tipped pass. I ran 4 verticals and didnt want it to seem that I just sent them on flys just to run. I did manage to run fairly well:)

I OU a Beatn
08-02-2010, 09:28 PM
I wouldn't have blamed you at all for running seam routes. I was sitting in zone most of the game so it definitely would've probably worked. I ran it a good many times against you but I just could not get the ball completed.

I just hate how the interceptions are setup. The DB will actually warp through the WR to pick the ball off, which is crap. That's exactly what happened on the last pick as I was driving. I went to user catch it and your DB literally went through my WR to catch it. That's another reason why man defense is so effective. It's like the DBs are ghosts and can just warp right through the receiver, which makes for one retarded ass looking animation. :D

CLW
08-03-2010, 08:41 AM
Wow you guys get Zone defenses to work? I'd be interested in seeing how that works. Every time I call a zone play I get torched.

I OU a Beatn
08-03-2010, 06:50 PM
90% of my defense is zone. The only time I bring man is on 3rd/4th down passing situations, and whenever I feel like bringing heat from the corners. I've had tons and tons and tons of success using zone and covering up holes manually with a LB or safety. People are so used to seeing man that they usually have tons of trouble moving the ball against me.

texacotea
08-04-2010, 10:16 AM
90% of my defense is zone. The only time I bring man is on 3rd/4th down passing situations, and whenever I feel like bringing heat from the corners. I've had tons and tons and tons of success using zone and covering up holes manually with a LB or safety. People are so used to seeing man that they usually have tons of trouble moving the ball against me.

I agree, I play more zone than anything. I feel like i can take the middle away with my S of LB.

ram29jackson
08-05-2010, 05:02 PM
Finally found a sim player last night in a unranked teambuilder game. I dont know how old he is but he friend requested me before I could friend him because He must have felt the same haha

CLW
08-05-2010, 05:18 PM
90% of my defense is zone. The only time I bring man is on 3rd/4th down passing situations, and whenever I feel like bringing heat from the corners. I've had tons and tons and tons of success using zone and covering up holes manually with a LB or safety. People are so used to seeing man that they usually have tons of trouble moving the ball against me.


I agree, I play more zone than anything. I feel like i can take the middle away with my S of LB.

I must just suck on the sticks then b/c I get picked apart playing zone both online and against the CPU.

texacotea
08-06-2010, 05:42 PM
anybody have trouble defending the toss and counters? having trouble with these 2 runs.

I OU a Beatn
08-06-2010, 06:45 PM
Everyone is. That's all my last opponent in the EAGHCS did. It's very simple - it's unstoppable. For whatever reason, the entire defense gets sucked towards the middle of the line which creates these huge ass running lanes to the outside. I've tried everything I could possibly think of and the best I've done is contain it until the inevitable broken tackle which just unleashes the domino effect. It's pure bullshit.

morsdraconis
08-06-2010, 08:55 PM
Everyone is. That's all my last opponent in the EAGHCS did. It's very simple - it's unstoppable. For whatever reason, the entire defense gets sucked towards the middle of the line which creates these huge ass running lanes to the outside. I've tried everything I could possibly think of and the best I've done is contain it until the inevitable broken tackle which just unleashes the domino effect. It's pure bullshit.

Have people not tried putting the DEs on contain and blitzing the OLBs?

Granted I haven't used it against humans, but it works pretty damn well against the CPU without having to run commit at all.

I OU a Beatn
08-06-2010, 10:11 PM
Doesn't work. The pulling lineman picks them up if they do manage to not get sucked into the middle of the line.

TheRezyReb
07-29-2011, 01:23 AM
Hey guys, I found a D to stop all that no huddle toss counter crap!!! 2-4-5 slant zone 2