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cdj
09-04-2012, 08:18 PM
Game Time CT Network
Thursday, September 6th
Pittsburgh at Cincinnati 7:00 p.m. ESPN (HD) / espn3 *9
DII: Bowie State at Benedict 7:00 p.m. CBSSN (HD)
Friday, September 7th
Utah at Utah State 7:00 p.m. ESPN2 (HD) / espn3 *9
Saturday, September 8th (Printable Schedule w/ DirecTV channels)

Auburn at Mississippi State 11:00 a.m. ESPN (HD) (3D) / espn3 *9
Ball State at Clemson 11:00 a.m. ESPN-GP *2 / ACC Network (HD) *3 / espn3
Maryland at Temple 11:00 a.m. ESPNU (HD) / espn3 *9
Miami at Kansas State 11:00 a.m. FX (HD)
New Hampshire at Minnesota 11:00 a.m. BTN (HD) / btn2go.com
North Carolina State at Connecticut 11:00 a.m. SNY / ESPN-GP / ERTV (cable) / espn3
Penn State at Virginia 11:00 a.m. ABC (HD)
Tulane at Tulsa 11:00 a.m. FSN Affiliates (HD) / FCSA (cable)
UCF at Ohio State 11:00 a.m. ESPN2 (HD) / espn3 *9
East Carolina at South Carolina 11:21 a.m. SEC Network *4 / ESPN-GP / espn3
Illinois State at Eastern Michigan 1:00 p.m. CSNC (J.I.P., game starts at 12)
North Carolina at Wake Forest 2:00 p.m. FSN Affiliates (HD) / ESPN-GP *2 / espn3
Weber State at BYU 2:00 p.m. BYUtv
Air Force at Michigan 2:30 p.m. ABC *1 / ESPN2 (HD) *7
Colorado Mesa at Northern Colorado 2:30 p.m. ALT (HD) / Big Sky
Delaware State at Delaware 2:30 p.m. NBCSN (HD)
Florida at Texas A&M 2:30 p.m. ESPN (HD)
Howard at Rutgers 2:30 p.m. SNY / ESPN-GP / ERTV (cable) / espn3
Iowa State at Iowa 2:30 p.m. BTN (HD) / btn2go.com
Michigan State at Central Michigan 2:30 p.m. ESPNU (HD)
Missouri State at Louisville 2:30 p.m. WHAS / ESPN-GP / espn3
Purdue at Notre Dame 2:30 p.m. NBC (HD)
Rice at Kansas 2:30 p.m. FSN Affiliates (HD) / FCSC (cable)
South Florida at Nevada 2:30 p.m. CBSSN (HD)
Syracuse vs. USC (East Rutherford) 2:30 p.m. ABC *1 / ESPN2 (HD) *7
Western Kentucky at Alabama 2:39 p.m. SEC Network *4 / ESPN-GP / espn3
Georgia State at Tennessee 3:00 p.m. ESPN-GP *2 / espn3 / PPV (TN)
Wisconsin at Oregon State 3:00 p.m. FX (HD)
Montana at Appalachian State 5:30 p.m. ESPN-GP / espn3
Arkansas vs. Louisiana Monroe (Little Rock) 6:00 p.m. ESPNU (HD)
Florida A&M at Oklahoma 6:00 p.m. PPV
Grambling at TCU 6:00 p.m. FSSW (not confirmed for satellite)
Idaho at Bowling Green 6:00 p.m. ALT (HD) / ESPN-GP / espn3 / BCSN / cable
Lafayette at William & Mary 6:00 p.m. ESPN-GP / espn3
UTEP at Ole Miss 6:00 p.m. FS South *6 / ESPN-GP *2 / espn3
Washington at LSU 6:00 p.m. ESPN (HD)
Army at San Diego State 6:30 p.m. NBCSN (HD)
Kent State at Kentucky 6:30 p.m. (CSNE/CSBA)*5/ ESPN-GP*2/ CSS (cable) / espn3
Nebraska at UCLA 6:30 p.m. FOX (HD)
Georgia at Missouri 6:45 p.m. ESPN2
Louisiana Tech at Houston 7:00 p.m. CBSSN (HD)
Vanderbilt at Northwestern 7:00 p.m. BTN (HD) / btn2go.com
Illinois at Arizona State 9:30 p.m. ESPN (HD)
Games not yet scheduled for nationally available networks.
Albany at Robert Morris 11:00 a.m. NEC Front Row
Akron at Florida International 5:00 p.m. espn3
Austin Peay at Virginia Tech 12:30 p.m. espn3
Bethune Cookman at South Carolina State 5:00 p.m. espn3
Black Hills State at Idaho State 5:00 p.m. Big Sky
Bryant at Saint Francis (PA) 11:00 a.m. NEC Front Row
Duke at Stanford 9:30 p.m. PAC-12 Network (HD) / pac-12.com
Eastern Illinois at Western Michigan 6:00 p.m. espn3
Eastern Washington at Washington State 2:00 p.m. PAC-12 Network (HD) / pac-12.com
Florida Atlantic at Middle Tennessee 6:00 p.m. espn3
Fresno State at Oregon 5:30 p.m. PAC-12 Network (HD) / pac-12.com
Indiana at UMass 2:30 p.m. espn3
Lehigh at CCSU 11:00 a.m. NEC Front Row
Louisiana Lafayette at Troy 6:00 p.m. espn3
Maine at Boston College 12:00 p.m. espn3
Memphis at Arkansas State 6:00 p.m. espn3
Morgan State at Buffalo 5:00 p.m. TWNY (cable)
New Mexico at Texas 7:00 p.m. LHN
New Mexico State at Ohio 6:00 p.m. espn3
Nicholls State at South Alabama 4:00 p.m. espn3
Norfolk State at Liberty 6:00 p.m. ESPN-GP / espn3 / Flames Sports (cable)
North Dakota State at Colorado State 6:00 p.m. (KTVD / ND NBC) (cable)
Northern Arizona at UNLV 9:00 p.m. TBA
Oklahoma State at Arizona 9:30 p.m. PAC-12 Network (HD) / pac-12.com
Portland State at North Dakota 6:00 p.m. (Midco Sports / CSNNW) (cable) / Big Sky
Presbyterian at Georgia Tech 6:00 p.m. espn3
Sacramento State at Colorado 2:00 p.m. PAC-12 Network (HD) / pac-12.com
Savannah State at Florida State 5:00 p.m. espn3
Southern Utah at California 2:00 p.m. PAC-12 Network (HD) / pac-12.com
Southern Illinois at Miami Ohio 12:00 p.m. espn3
Stephen F. Austin at SMU 7:00 p.m. TWTX (cable)
Texas A&M Commerce at UTSA 1:00 p.m. TBA
Texas Southern at North Texas 6:00 p.m. espn3
Texas Tech at Texas State 6:00 p.m. espn3
Toledo at Wyoming 3:00 p.m. TBA
UC Davis at San Jose State 7:00 p.m. TBA
UT Martin at Northern Illinois 6:00 p.m. espn3
Western Carolina at Marshall 6:00 p.m. FCSA (cable)

gschwendt
09-04-2012, 08:27 PM
Memphis at Arkansas State, 6pm on ESPN3 should see a packed house. Supposed to be beautiful weather, Gus' first home game, our rival opponent, they're down (lost to UT Martin in Week 1) so it should be nearly a repeat of last year... we called off the dogs to win 47-3.

steelerfan
09-04-2012, 10:49 PM
The Irish have another winnable game the weekend (vs Purdue), then the hell that this season will surely be begins. :smh:

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baseballplyrmvp
09-05-2012, 12:43 AM
nebraska has my full support this weekend! :D

JBHuskers
09-05-2012, 12:17 PM
Nebraska @ UCLA, most of which I'll be viewing from the strip club :D

gschwendt
09-06-2012, 09:08 AM
Memphis game week always forces reflection on the history of the opponent Arkansas State has played the most. Here's a good break down of those meetings dating back to 1975 (first game was played in 1917).
http://www.arkst.com/?p=1919

And while doing so, it always leads to looking up these two videos

2006 - Bluff City Miracle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zy6B5kDHwC0

2007 - Trailing 31-6 at halftime, Arkansas State comes back in the second half

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6KgPBreXwc

For the impatient (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6KgPBreXwc&feature=player_detailpage#t=205s)

steelerfan
09-06-2012, 12:29 PM
Ahhhh, the famous "Bluff City Miracle". ;)

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JBHuskers
09-06-2012, 12:35 PM
According to a gambling expert in Vegas, the Florida State / Savannah State game is the first ever game to hold a 70 point spread. Florida State is a 70.5 favorite.

souljahbill
09-06-2012, 12:35 PM
Looks like ASU/Memphis rivalry runs just as deep as the Southern Miss/Memphis rivalry.

I fuckin' HATE Memphis.

steelerfan
09-06-2012, 03:08 PM
According to a gambling expert in Vegas, the Florida State / Savannah State game is the first ever game to hold a 70 point spread. Florida State is a 70.5 favorite.

:D

Take the points!

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SmoothPancakes
09-06-2012, 03:50 PM
According to a gambling expert in Vegas, the Florida State / Savannah State game is the first ever game to hold a 70 point spread. Florida State is a 70.5 favorite.

After Oklahoma State raped, maimed, abused, bitchslapped, and roasted Savannah State on a spit last week, I can understand Vegas doing that. I don't think Florida State covers though. Florida State doesn't even hit 60. I'll say 56-0 final.

ram29jackson
09-06-2012, 05:50 PM
Nebraska @ UCLA, most of which I'll be viewing from the strip club :D

I might,..just might be at the game

SmoothPancakes
09-06-2012, 05:52 PM
I might,..just might be at the game

Why? It's UCLA playing, not USC.

ram29jackson
09-06-2012, 06:04 PM
Why? It's UCLA playing, not USC.


I live a few miles from Pasadena... I have one friend who is a UCLA seson ticket holder, another friend who's son goes to UCLA and gets the student season freebees..and all our other friends are BIG Nebraska fans and wasted no time in getting additional tickets for this..plus the fact that 2 of the guys work for Pasadena city and have connections to anything Rose Bowl related when they feel the need LOL

baseballplyrmvp
09-06-2012, 08:25 PM
hey ram, can you pass this along to your ucla friend? i recently got a message from lane kiffin that said, "The monopoly in LA will continue." lol

steelerfan
09-06-2012, 08:44 PM
After Oklahoma State raped, maimed, abused, bitchslapped, and roasted Savannah State on a spit last week, I can understand Vegas doing that. I don't think Florida State covers though. Florida State doesn't even hit 60. I'll say 56-0 final.

But, normally, Vegas doesn't release lines for something so ridiculous. I will take 70.5 every day!

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psuexv
09-07-2012, 09:26 AM
LOL, that FSU games isn't even listed in our pick 'em pool. I'd be all over 70.5. What's the o/u 120?

psusnoop
09-07-2012, 10:53 AM
LOL, that FSU games isn't even listed in our pick 'em pool. I'd be all over 70.5. What's the o/u 120?


78 :)

JeffHCross
09-08-2012, 10:37 AM
So, apparently, George O'Leary thinks UCF fans are louder than Ohio State fans (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/videogallery/72138035/Sports/Listen-O-Leary-says-UCF-fans-are-louder-than-Ohio-State-fans).

steelerfan
09-08-2012, 12:45 PM
So, apparently, George O'Leary thinks UCF fans are louder than Ohio State fans (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/videogallery/72138035/Sports/Listen-O-Leary-says-UCF-fans-are-louder-than-Ohio-State-fans).

Maybe he will add that to his resume'. ;)

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CLW
09-08-2012, 01:20 PM
:Penn_State: losing that transfer kicker sure is biting them today 3 missed fgs that i have seen and hell even i (a former soccer player) could definitely made that last one EASY.

steelerfan
09-08-2012, 02:39 PM
530

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bdoughty
09-08-2012, 06:41 PM
Wow, Erin Andrews is just really hard to watch doing a pre game show. This might be the worst pre-game crew I have seen in a long time. Grating on the ears.

SmoothPancakes
09-08-2012, 06:56 PM
Lmao! Welcome to the SEC Missouri. You try some dumbshit trick play for your first play of the SEC, and lose yards. Then on third down your center snaps it over your QB's head, resulting in a punt out of your end zone, and just for good measure, a false start on the punt backs you all the way up to your goal line, giving Georgia the ball on your 37 yard line. You're off to a real great start there fellas.

CLW
09-08-2012, 07:08 PM
Lmao! Welcome to the SEC Missouri. You try some dumbshit trick play for your first play of the SEC, and lose yards. Then on third down your center snaps it over your QB's head, resulting in a punt out of your end zone, and just for good measure, a false start on the punt backs you all the way up to your goal line, giving Georgia the ball on your 37 yard line. You're off to a real great start there fellas.

Yeah once :Florida: adjusted :Texas_A&M: did almost NOTHING in the 2nd half. Those Big 12 offenses won't fly in the land of the MEN!

JeffHCross
09-08-2012, 08:16 PM
Yeah once :Florida: adjusted :Texas_A&M: did almost NOTHING in the 2nd half. Those Big 12 offenses won't fly in the land of the MEN!Or ... A&M just did the same thing it did last year ... ship off in the second half.


On another note, turns out Russell Wilson was pretty important to Wisconsin last year. And that losing pretty much your entire coordinator staff can hurt.

I'm not sure if any Big Ten team is looking like a quality school now.

baseballplyrmvp
09-08-2012, 08:25 PM
i cant wait til monte kiffin retires. this soft coverage and prevent cover 2 shit that he teaches just pisses me off.

bdoughty
09-08-2012, 08:29 PM
Or ... A&M just did the same thing it did last year ... ship off in the second half.


On another note, turns out Russell Wilson was pretty important to Wisconsin last year. And that losing pretty much your entire coordinator staff can hurt.

I'm not sure if any Big Ten team is looking like a quality school now.


Michigan State looks like the cream of the crop right now. Nebraska's defense is not very good so far. Only other teams that are 2-0 in the Big Ten, Minnesota and Iowa.

baseballplyrmvp
09-08-2012, 08:44 PM
After Oklahoma State raped, maimed, abused, bitchslapped, and roasted Savannah State on a spit last week, I can understand Vegas doing that. I don't think Florida State covers though. Florida State doesn't even hit 60. I'll say 56-0 final.

edit: nvm. game isnt over yet.

SmoothPancakes
09-08-2012, 09:55 PM
edit: nvm. game isnt over yet.

55-0, one point off. :cool:

And a thriller on ESPNU. UL-Monroe and Arkansas tied 28-28 in overtime. Hell of a game going on right now.

SmoothPancakes
09-08-2012, 09:57 PM
A bad day if you live in Colorado. Colorado loses to Sacramento State 30-28, while Colorado State loses to North Dakota State 22-7.

SmoothPancakes
09-08-2012, 09:58 PM
Michigan State looks like the cream of the crop right now. Nebraska's defense is not very good so far. Only other teams that are 2-0 in the Big Ten, Minnesota and Iowa.

Iowa's 1-1, lost 9-6 to Iowa State today in a battle of the kickers.

SmoothPancakes
09-08-2012, 10:02 PM
UL-Monroe SHOCKS #8 Arkansas!!! A QB scramble to avoid the pressure on 4th and 1, getting the angle all the way to the end zone for a 16 yard TD, and the Warhawks win 34-31!

morsdraconis
09-08-2012, 10:06 PM
Fuck yeah! Fuck you SEC!

baseballplyrmvp
09-08-2012, 10:31 PM
Fuck yeah! Fuck you SEC!

:clap:

baseballplyrmvp
09-08-2012, 10:36 PM
anyone wanna bet that :USC: will drop to #3 tomorrow?

SCClassof93
09-08-2012, 10:38 PM
anyone wanna bet that :USC: will drop to #3 tomorrow?

and will still be overrated :nod:

baseballplyrmvp
09-08-2012, 10:43 PM
and will still be overrated :nod:

nah, we'll go 14-0 this year. ;)

SmoothPancakes
09-08-2012, 11:09 PM
anyone wanna bet that :USC: will drop to #3 tomorrow?

Yeah, they're definitely dropping. Struggled to put away Syracuse, while LSU completely violated Washington. I'd almost be tempted to make a case for Oregon at #3 even, after putting a whooping on Fresno State. But it wouldn't happen. No way USC falls from #2 to #4 after a win, even if it was a shitty win against Syracuse.

gigemaggs99
09-08-2012, 11:25 PM
Yeah once :Florida: adjusted :Texas_A&M: did almost NOTHING in the 2nd half. Those Big 12 offenses won't fly in the land of the MEN!

Can you explain where the Big 12 offense reference comes from? You do know Kevin Sumlin came from Houston right?

It's not fun to lose but, I'm here to say, this mighty SEC thing isn't so mighty. It kept going from A&M was favored by 3 1/2 to Florida was going to run us out of the stadium. 20-17 doesn't seem all that bad. Our defense didn't look horrible like it did last year. Yes we gave up a 2nd half lead but atleast we didn't give up 30+ like we did multiple times last year.

It is disappointing that we didn't make adjustments, that seems to be a failure we always have, not just today. In the last few years we always seem to do well in the 1st half, it's like the silly coaches seem to have this mentality, "ok guys we're doing great, let's keep it up, now drink some water and go get 'em.".....all the while the other team is making adjustments fixing things that didn't work, changing things here or there...even when things STOP working for us it's like they are like...."ummmm, well....ok, let's try it again, again....ok 1 more time...." It seemed like today in the 1st half we passed more. Then in the 2nd half they shut Manziel down from running all over them (again good adjustments by Florida) but we just kept HB draw, HB Base, etc... QB draw...what happened to the passing game in the 2nd half?

I was happy to see Manziel sneak out of some sacks, he just needs to learn to look to pass more, this isn't high school, he can't save the team by running for his life. That will come in time, this was our first game of the year.

All in all, I was not happy we lost but I did get to lose my voice, paid to watch the game again (usher) got a free shirt and hat plus a nice catered meal and all the bottled water you can drink.

Next week vs SMU should be/hopefully be better.

The Florida people were really nice too, nice change from the jerks from the likes of texas tech.

Great to see UL-Monroe beat a "mighty SEC" team, sorry top 10 SEC team LOL.

Gig 'Em Aggies BTHOO-smu

Gus '99

cdj
09-08-2012, 11:29 PM
Arizona up 23-14 on Okie State at halftime. Maybe OSU shouldn't have played that high school team last week.

Michigan State & Ohio State appear to be the best in the B1G, but that isn't saying much right now. I thought Nebraska might contend, but that's not happening this year.

ARK QB Tyler Wilson out 3-4 weeks with a broken collarbone.

gigemaggs99
09-08-2012, 11:30 PM
After Oklahoma State raped, maimed, abused, bitchslapped, and roasted Savannah State on a spit last week, I can understand Vegas doing that. I don't think Florida State covers though. Florida State doesn't even hit 60. I'll say 56-0 final.

I wonder how they do the betting when the game is called in the 3rd quarter due to weather? It is pretty impressive they put that many on them and didn't even play 4 quarters.

baseballplyrmvp
09-08-2012, 11:47 PM
Yeah, they're definitely dropping. Struggled to put away Syracuse, while LSU completely violated Washington. I'd almost be tempted to make a case for Oregon at #3 even, after putting a whooping on Fresno State. But it wouldn't happen. No way USC falls from #2 to #4 after a win, even if it was a shitty win against Syracuse.

i wouldnt say struggled to put them away, but monte kiffin's decision to let syracuse pass for like 200 yards in the 4th quarter, certainly didnt help anything. i just want the power struggle between marvin sanders and monte kiffin, over how our corners should play, to be over.

cdj
09-08-2012, 11:51 PM
i wouldnt say struggled to put them away, but monte kiffin's decision to let syracuse pass for like 200 yards in the 4th quarter, certainly didnt help anything. i just want the power struggle between marvin sanders and monte kiffin, over how our corners should play, to be over.

I've always been a fan of Sanders and not so much one of M. Kiffin. I don't know what happened that led to Sanders resigning at NU, but our DBs haven't been the same since. (Though, we've had a new DB coach both years since, so maybe that explains some issues.)

baseballplyrmvp
09-09-2012, 12:23 AM
I've always been a fan of Sanders and not so much one of M. Kiffin. I don't know what happened that led to Sanders resigning at NU, but our DBs haven't been the same since. (Though, we've had a new DB coach both years since, so maybe that explains some issues.)sanders has done a terrific job since he's been at SC. i've been very impressed with him. but i wish he was given more control over the db's. he wants the db's to play up-front and physical against opposing wr's and the results have shown that his style is much better for USC's defense.....yet monte's insistance on playing the soft, conservative, dont give up the big play zone defense allows opposing teams to take control of the game in a tight contest. i cant stand watching our corners playing 10 yards off the LOS and seeing these easy completions being made at the end of the game.

bdoughty
09-09-2012, 01:35 AM
Okie State deserves the beating it got. You gain nothing by playing a low rung FCS team in week one.

Anyone need a QB? Will gladly trade Landry Jones for an offensive lineman that can block.

bdoughty
09-09-2012, 01:40 AM
Iowa's 1-1, lost 9-6 to Iowa State today in a battle of the kickers.

Doh, I meant Indiana instead if Iowa.

SmoothPancakes
09-09-2012, 03:31 AM
i wouldnt say struggled to put them away, but monte kiffin's decision to let syracuse pass for like 200 yards in the 4th quarter, certainly didnt help anything. i just want the power struggle between marvin sanders and monte kiffin, over how our corners should play, to be over.

Alright, struggled to put away may be a poor choice of phrase, but it definitely wasn't the dominant USC ass whooping that everyone comes to expect when the Trojans take on "lesser" teams, which Syracuse falls into that category. I think that will ultimately hurt USC in the poll, especially have the true whooping that LSU put on Washington. I just can't see LSU not getting the bump up to #2 after that game.


Okie State deserves the beating it got. You gain nothing by playing a low rung FCS team in week one.

Anyone need a QB? Will gladly trade Landry Jones for an offensive lineman that can block.

Yeah, that week one game truly did nothing for Okie State. With the starters already pulled at halftime (if not before), they had basically nothing other than a glorified scrimmage. I haven't really followed the PAC or Arizona real close in recent years, so I don't know how good Arizona has been or is expected to be this year, and so I don't know for sure if, other than ranking, this was a true upset or if Arizona was expected to have a chance. But if Okie State had actually played a normal game last week, even against someone like Idaho, SJSU, Wyoming, etc, they would have played better against Arizona today.

Though I was impressed with Oregon State, not even getting to play last week after getting their game cancelled, and then having to take on Wisconsin right off the bat to start the season. While they did hardly anything on offense themselves, holding Wisconsin scoreless until the final minute and a half of the game, and holding them to just 7 points for the entire game, definitely impressive, though exactly how impressive depends on how much of a drop off Wisconsin may have with Wilson no longer at QB.


Doh, I meant Indiana instead if Iowa.

I was gonna say, I knew for certain I had seen Iowa State with the win over Iowa on ESPN. :D

CLW
09-09-2012, 07:57 AM
Can you explain where the Big 12 offense reference comes from? You do know Kevin Sumlin came from Houston right?

It's not fun to lose but, I'm here to say, this mighty SEC thing isn't so mighty.

#1 The Spread (as a primarily/only form of offense) simply isn't going to fly anymore in that conference b/c the vast majority of SEC defenses are too big, fast, strong for the bubbles, option reads, etc... to work. You end up with the QB running around like a chicken with its head cut off (see yesterday). Manziel only averaged 5.8 yards a completion. Dink and Dunk isn't going to cut it.

#2 Florida is "DOWN" this year and if you take away the first 3 possessions of the game A&M did nothing on offense.

#3 We will see how "mighty" you think it is when :Texas_A&M: finishes 2-6 in conference.

A&M doesn't have the athleticism and depth it needs to compete with the "mighty" yet. Now I think they can in 3-4 years but its going to be a LONG process before they get up to where they can legitimately compete in the SEC.

gigemaggs99
09-09-2012, 10:15 AM
Ok CLW, I'm not looking to argue with you sir. You are just crapping on A&M so I respond, plain and simple. You need to get your facts together. A&M didn't run this offense last year.

I've never said we were going to go 12-0. I've never said A&M was going to win the conference. I'm a realist, we have a new coach, everywhere, offense, defense, new QB, new players all over the field, new conference. No one said it was going to be easy.

I'm just saying blanket statements like our "big 12 offense" isn't going to work. We haven't had this offensive scheme for years, this is our first year to have this scheme, plain and simple. I think it might be wise to make a blanket statement when we've played more than 1 game. Are we supposed to be top notch perfectly oiled offensive machine first game of the year? Florida from the SEC didn't exactly run Bowling Green out of the stadium either (27-14).

I also wasn't impressed with the SEC as a whole. In general over the last few years have they been great, yes. But to keep saying they are better than everyone especially the Big 12, seems silly. They hardly play big 12 teams, when they do they sometimes win, sometimes lose, but they rarely blow them out. The SEC is a step up, money wise, but if the SEC is so loaded why does #8 Arkansas lose to UL Monroe (don't pull the depth card b/c the SEC teams are supposed to be stacked).

Until the end of the game I wasn't convinced Georgia was going to beat Missouri, they didn't exactly run them out of the stadium.

I agree that the SEC is one of the power conferences, mainly due to the big time money. Are they going to win by not playing the games? I don't think so (see UL Monroe).

#3 We will see how "mighty" you think it is when finishes 2-6 in conference. This is silly. Our own fans are predicting a 5-7, 6-6, or 8-4 (at best, very few votes for 8-4). We are realistic, we know we have a lot to learn and grow on. It's our first year, we do not expect to go undefeated, perhaps you should check your audience.

Thanks and good luck to your team!

Gig 'Em Aggies!

Gus '99

JeffHCross
09-09-2012, 11:00 AM
55-0, one point off. :cool:I'm not sure if you get to claim it when the game is called in the 3rd quarter :D

Seriously though, does that mean that bet is a push for everyone involved, or do they still pay out like it was a complete game?


#1 The Spread (as a primarily/only form of offense) simply isn't going to fly anymore in that conferenceThe spread doesn't work in the SEC? That's news.


if the SEC is so loaded why does #8 Arkansas lose to UL MonroeLosing your starting QB will have an impact on any team. Plus, it's early in the season so Arkansas, among other teams, was probably actually overrated (John L. Smith: Not a very good head coach)

The SEC is better than the Big XII. And the Big Ten. And the Pac-12. Seven years of national championship dominance generally proves that.

Missouri put up a hell of a fight against Georgia, until Georgia started to roll late. A&M put up a good fight against Florida (who, btw, isn't really good at all this year, so far), but then rolled over in the second half, much like they did last year. One week does not accurately indicate how good those teams will be in the conference. We'll see how they fare against a steady dose of SEC teams; that's what really separates the conferences.

SCClassof93
09-09-2012, 11:26 AM
I'm not sure if you get to claim it when the game is called in the 3rd quarter :D

Seriously though, does that mean that bet is a push for everyone involved, or do they still pay out like it was a complete game?

The spread doesn't work in the SEC? That's news.

Losing your starting QB will have an impact on any team. Plus, it's early in the season so Arkansas, among other teams, was probably actually overrated (John L. Smith: Not a very good head coach)

The SEC is better than the Big XII. And the Big Ten. And the Pac-12. Seven years of national championship dominance generally proves that.

Missouri put up a hell of a fight against Georgia, until Georgia started to roll late. A&M put up a good fight against Florida (who, btw, isn't really good at all this year, so far), but then rolled over in the second half, much like they did last year. One week does not accurately indicate how good those teams will be in the conference. We'll see how they fare against a steady dose of SEC teams; that's what really separates the conferences.

This :nod:

steelerfan
09-09-2012, 11:29 AM
Jeff, that bet would be a Push.

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souljahbill
09-09-2012, 11:29 AM
Best part of the week? :Southern_Miss: didn't lose! (Bye week)

My other school and second favorite college football team, :Louisiana: whooped up on :Troy:

JeffHCross
09-09-2012, 11:46 AM
Jeff, that bet would be a Push. Thought so. Thanks.

JBHuskers
09-09-2012, 11:48 AM
Terrible effort :Nebraska: :fp:

baseballplyrmvp
09-09-2012, 12:05 PM
Losing your starting QB will have an impact on any team.

every sec team has like a 150 man roster. how could they not have had a suitable replacement?

side note: i hope their corner is ok after colliding with his teammate.

JeffHCross
09-09-2012, 12:17 PM
how could they not have had a suitable replacement?Well, Wilson wasn't doing that great to begin with (11/20, 2 TD, 1 INT), but Allen did really poorly (6/20, 1 TD, 1 INT). But the real problem was a lack of defense. They gave up 412 yards passing to Monroe -- on 42 of 67 passing with 3 TDs.

But as for 'suitable replacement' ... I'd like to introduce you to Joe Bauserman and his performance against Nebraska last year ... but there is not a suitable low-lite video.

JeffHCross
09-09-2012, 12:47 PM
Thanks to QB Kneels counting as "Team" rushing yards, rather than against an individual player, Denard Robinson outgained the entire Michigan Wolverines team this weekend, 426 to 422.

baseballplyrmvp
09-09-2012, 12:54 PM
Well, Wilson wasn't doing that great to begin with (11/20, 2 TD, 1 INT), but Allen did really poorly (6/20, 1 TD, 1 INT). But the real problem was a lack of defense. They gave up 412 yards passing to Monroe -- on 42 of 67 passing with 3 TDs.

but, but, but, this is the sec we're talking about.....you know the conference that plays big boy football ;)

souljahbill
09-09-2012, 02:36 PM
I think people make to big of a deal about conference. Every conference has its share of studs and duds. Alabama beating Michigan had nothing to do with conference and had everything to do with Alabama just being better. Florida didn't beat A&M because their in the SEC and A&M is new to the conference. Florida just outcoached and outplayed A&M.

ram29jackson
09-09-2012, 02:45 PM
Michigan State looks like the cream of the crop right now. Nebraska's defense is not very good so far. Only other teams that are 2-0 in the Big Ten, Minnesota and Iowa.

Nebraska's defense isnt why they lost against UCLA. They should have been running more instead of passing. They were getting good yards when in pro formation and running to the right/middle most of the time. And of course Martinez got his running yards.

But Polini seems to be one of those coaches..or the offensive coordinator who thinks it helps to call what ever he's thinking to vary it up instead of whats working.

it was interesting that most of Nebraska's yards were up the middle and most of UCLA's yards were around the edges. but Nebraska forced 6 punts to UCLAs 7. So the defense wasnt a problem.
they need to run-run-run with Abdullah, Burkhead and Matinez LOL.
Either way, that a great game to be at and watch. It was really one of UCLA's biggest wins in the last decade ! Mora knows what he is doing and that UCLA QB is no joke.

I gotta say though that a 4:30 pm start time was kind of odd ?...but there was a fire works show after the game ! LOL fun day

gigemaggs99
09-09-2012, 03:10 PM
This is just how it is in Aggieland. We lose a lot more than we win and it's hard. When I was in High School and in school at A&M we hardly ever lost, especially at home (mid-late 90s).

My wife (class of '01) will also be the first to tell you, the first time we lost a home game while she was a student she had no clue what they were doing at the end when we sang a different song. For 4 years of home games she NEVER heard that song. So we were used to winning...it's been a while since we sing the Other song :bang:

So hopefully Sumlin will help turn things around.

I think moving up to the SEC is a good move, in the long run it should help but with new coaches and new players, recruiting, etc...it's a chance at success but also a good recipe for headaches and growing pains.

I DVRed the game and watched the 1st half this morning. I will say alot of the SEC talk is hype by the media. They did hype the living day-lights out of the LSU vs Bama game last year and then again for the national championship. Both games were great games but they have more commercials all week for those games than they do any other so the media builds it up. That doesn't mean there aren't good games elsewhere.

In fact, the media "hamburgler" (I know his name) and Kirk were talking about the "new guys" in a pretty good light in the 1st half, at one point he Brent said, Welcome to Aggieland, Florida and the SEC. They both were surprised with how our O-line was pushing Florida around. I’m not saying Florida is the power house of the SEC, but to talk all day that the SEC IS the only conference out there…there are 2 really great teams LSU and Alabama, ALL SEC teams are not giants. (please tell me that Florida would have won national titles without Tebow, please tell me Auburn would have won without Newton) LSU and Alabama are great teams. The others have great players but like the present day Arkansas they are going to struggle when they lose their start QB. I really think great teams like LSU and Alabama would keep winning if they lost 1 key guy, I don’t feel the same with Tebow’s/Newton’s Florida/Auburn.

We also had a good rushing attack going in the first half (granted Florida made great adjustments and shut it down in the 2nd) but we not only had a good outside finesse run game we had a nice power run game that actually hammered the MLB for Florida and knocked him out of the game for a few plays. He RAN that dude OVER! Yes it was only 1 example but it just goes to show we aren't all finesse.

My HOPE is that Sumlin is trying to "tip his hand". He's always hinted at things like he's "glad" other teams think we throw the ball a lot with our Air Raid offense. He's glad they want to protect against the pass. Well now this Air Raid isn't like the others b/c we have a threat at the QB position, a running threat. texas tech never had a rushing QB to give the defense something else to deal with.

My HOPE is if he gives other teams game footage of us RUN RUN RUN, worry about the rushing attack AND the mobile QB, then start opening up the Air Raid short quick passing attack, it should HOPEFULLY give the defense fits. Granted this isn't going to be next week or even in 7 weeks, maybe next year or the next, when everyone has more time in the system, when they have better recruits in place then he can unleash the attack. Case Keenan very rarely ran the ball at Houston. Houston had VERY fast WRs, but Houston wasn't playing against SEC speedy defenses, so their pass happy offense worked. If Sumlin can do both, keep the defense guessing that would be very nice!

People here are talking a lot on the radio about the Florida players falling down. I have mixed feelings on this. Injuries should NEVER be booed, rule #1 Aggies to NOT boo, we hisss (SSSSSSSSSSSSSSS) however yesterday my jaw hit the floor when the alumni and students were booing like crazy, I was like WHAT THE HECK IS THIS!? You have no clue if these players are really hurt or not. Booing an injury is not cool.

Now, on TV they made a big deal pre-game about how BOTH Florida and A&M had hydration plans on BOTH sidelines. Both teams play and practice in similar conditions, both teams had IVs ready, both had hydration stations where they hooked up AC to their pads (looked pretty cool by the way) to keep them cool. Florida players would be standing there, in one case it was a CB for Florida, the play was over, he was standing there reading the sideline for the next play as it was being signaled in, all by himself, he just sat down. Didn't fall like he was passing out, he just sat down on the field.

In all my time watching football, I'd normally see a player tap his helmet and come out of the game, not just sit down on the field. When this happens ALL the Florida players get water, ALL of them get a break and Florida is not charged with a delay of game, or a Timeout or anything. Then the CB JUMPS up after a few mins of sitting there and trotts over to the sideline like nothing happened. This I can see is not cool. If he's hurt ok, but this dude was FINE. He should have tapped his helmet and left the game, not play silly.

All that being said, I don't like the attitude of, if we are running some gimmick offense that depends on speed and not allowing the D to sub, it's not a long term GOOD offense in my opinion. Here's why I think this, the 1st play of the 1st quarter our offense does NOT rely on this gimmick. I think we should be able to move the chains no matter what. If the dude breaks his leg, we should then be able to keep our offense going, not be stopped b/c someone needs to get a drink of water. To me it's a gimmick if you need those silly things to NOT happen in order for it to work. I say stop booing, let the kid get off the field, real OR fake injury then pick right back up and MOVE the damn ball down the field.

Gig 'Em :up:

gigemaggs99
09-09-2012, 03:10 PM
I think people make to big of a deal about conference. Every conference has its share of studs and duds. Alabama beating Michigan had nothing to do with conference and had everything to do with Alabama just being better. Florida didn't beat A&M because their in the SEC and A&M is new to the conference. Florida just outcoached and outplayed A&M.

:up:

baseballplyrmvp
09-09-2012, 03:20 PM
I think people make to big of a deal about conference. Every conference has its share of studs and duds. Alabama beating Michigan had nothing to do with conference and had everything to do with Alabama just being better. Florida didn't beat A&M because their in the SEC and A&M is new to the conference. Florida just outcoached and outplayed A&M.

i'll agree that bama was by far the better team, but when the game started to become a blowout, all of the bama fans started chanting "s-e-c". fans of sec teams dont just root for their team, they cheer for the conference as well. they'll even chear for their rival as long as its against a team from another conference. you go to any other team's game featuring one conference against another, and i guarantee that you dont hear "pac12" or "big10" chants, indicating that their conference is superior to the opponent's.

souljahbill
09-09-2012, 04:05 PM
i'll agree that bama was by far the better team, but when the game started to become a blowout, all of the bama fans started chanting "s-e-c". fans of sec teams dont just root for their team, they cheer for the conference as well. they'll even chear for their rival as long as its against a team from another conference. you go to any other team's game featuring one conference against another, and i guarantee that you dont hear "pac12" or "big10" chants, indicating that their conference is superior to the opponent's.

Which goes back to what I was saying. We put way too much stock into conference affiliation. ESPN has an article about the B1G's awful/PAC-12's great day yesterday. It serves no point but to start flame wars.

JeffHCross
09-09-2012, 05:11 PM
fans of sec teams dont just root for their team, they cheer for the conference as well.Show me an Auburn fan that rooted for Alabama to win the national championship, or vice versa, and I'll agree with this.

"S-E-C" is just another way SEC fans throw stuff in the face of their opponents. It's not really some superior conference camaraderie that other conferences don't have.

gigemaggs99
09-09-2012, 05:29 PM
Show me an Auburn fan that rooted for Alabama to win the national championship, or vice versa, and I'll agree with this.

"S-E-C" is just another way SEC fans throw stuff in the face of their opponents. It's not really some superior conference camaraderie that other conferences don't have.

I will say it was interesting that at some point in yesterday's game We started chanting SEC SEC, not sure why as I was dealing with a ticket issue, but I turned around and the Florida fans started chanting "it's good to be a Florida GATOR...." I laughed, I was like we.. so much for SEC SEC SEC..

The Aggie Band did make a big SEC on the field at halftime, this was a first, they normally end the 1/2 time with a Block T or a Block ATM, even the Florida fans stood up and clapped, so I guess liked it.

On a side note, I'm watching the 49ers and Green Bay and I've got to tell you something, Joe Buck and Troy Aikman have really brushed up on their Spanish, they are speaking VERY fluent Spanish on TV....I called my buddy to ask him if his FOX was messed up, he laughed and said yeah....I thought WOW listen to Buck GO. VIVA!

bdoughty
09-09-2012, 06:08 PM
I think moving up to the SEC is a good move, in the long run it should help but with new coaches and new players, recruiting, etc...it's a chance at success but also a good recipe for headaches and growing pains.


A&M was simply hurt by Texas having more control over the Big 12 and the creation of the Longhorn Network. Not to mention that the little Red Raiders that could were the second best Texas team in the Big 12 (Tech owned the head to head with A&M since the move to the Big 12). They left out of spite and I do not see the Aggies faring well in the SEC. The SEC is the power conference no matter what you think about conferences and the Aggies could only muster one Big 12 title back in 1998 and never made it back to the game.

JeffHCross
09-09-2012, 06:12 PM
A&M was simply hurt by Texas having more control over the Big 12 and the creation of the Longhorn Network.To be fair, though, every school not named Texas hasn't been a fan of this agreement.

bdoughty
09-09-2012, 06:14 PM
Show me an Auburn fan that rooted for Alabama to win the national championship, or vice versa, and I'll agree with this.

"S-E-C" is just another way SEC fans throw stuff in the face of their opponents. It's not really some superior conference camaraderie that other conferences don't have.

Or vise versa

Poor little trees are not even safe when it comes to an SEC rivalry.

http://www.sportsgrindent.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/HarveyUpdyke.jpg

bdoughty
09-09-2012, 06:20 PM
To be fair, though, every school not named Texas hasn't been a fan of this agreement.

Sure, but Texas has had the power since the Big 12 began. Gotta roll with it like us Sooners and win a bunch of Big 12 Championships. :nod:

Hardly anyone has the network and DirecTV put it best...

"We understand Longhorn has other programming that may be of value to a small segment of our customers, but two UT football games do not constitute a network."

JeffHCross
09-09-2012, 06:44 PM
Poor little trees are not even safe when it comes to an SEC rivalry.Yeah, well ... that guy is a nutcase.

baseballplyrmvp
09-09-2012, 06:45 PM
Show me an Auburn fan that rooted for Alabama to win the national championship, or vice versa, and I'll agree with this.

"S-E-C" is just another way SEC fans throw stuff in the face of their opponents. It's not really some superior conference camaraderie that other conferences don't have.

since the national championship featured two sec teams, auburn fans were practically obligated to root for lsu. it'd be like if the natty featured iowa and michigan; you'd be obligated to root for iowa. but if the natty featured michigan and texas, would you root for michigan, since it could be a big10 bowl win?

they (fans of sec teams) care more about the perception of their conference than any other conference fan base out there. if they're not rooting for their team, they will always root for fellow sec teams (a&m and missouri excluded) just to show how big, bad, tough, and awesome their conference is.

JeffHCross
09-09-2012, 06:49 PM
but if the natty featured michigan and texas, would you root for michigan, since it could be a big10 bowl win? Hell no. I like Texas a hell of a lot more than I like Michigan. Maybe if Michigan played the Soviet Union (or maybe the Pittsburgh Steelers / Baltimore Ravens) ... maybe then.

Nor did Auburn fans root for Bama in 2009, and no way did Bama fans root for Auburn in 2010.


they (fans of sec teams) care more about the perception of their conference than any other conference fan base out there. if they're not rooting for their team, they will always root for fellow sec teams (a&m and missouri excluded) just to show how big, bad, tough, and awesome their conference is.No. They will use other victories by fellow SEC members to "show how big, bad, tough, and awesome their conference is", and assert their dominance over CFB. But that doesn't mean they're rooting for each other. Rivalry still matters. (And if you haven't seen the awesome Roll Tide / War Eagle special, that really shows it, yet shows that even Alabama knows that there are bigger things than football).

baseballplyrmvp
09-09-2012, 06:59 PM
agree to disagree then.

gigemaggs99
09-09-2012, 08:01 PM
It seems like a jr high pissing match....why are A&M and Missouri not cheered for by other SEC teams then? If they are apart of the biggest baddest conference in the land why are the new kids on the block not apart of the SEC it's like they are outsiders. Seems like a contradiction....you either cheer for them or you don't, if you have prejudice against another team for some reason or other (rivalry, new guy on the block) the whole cheer for every SEC team doesn't make sense.

It sounds to me like excuses will be made whenever it's convenient for the argument..."A&M won or did well this week, oh, well that's b/c they played Florida, we all know Florida is not at the top of their game..." If A&M wins are they going to be at the top of their game or are they just playing a team that's in a slump?

What exactly are the other power house football teams in the SEC besides Alabama and LSU?

It seems like looking at the end of the year top 25 rankings the last couple of years, the Big 12 would have 4-5 teams, SEC 5-6, Pac 12 4-5, then a mixture of others, so the SEC would have maybe 1-2 more each year...if this is how they are the DOMINANT conference, I guess that makes sense, but it's not like it's 10 for them and 2 for everyone else.

bdoughty
09-09-2012, 08:20 PM
It seems like looking at the end of the year top 25 rankings the last couple of years, the Big 12 would have 4-5 teams, SEC 5-6, Pac 12 4-5, then a mixture of others, so the SEC would have maybe 1-2 more each year...if this is how they are the DOMINANT conference, I guess that makes sense, but it's not like it's 10 for them and 2 for everyone else.

Maybe all those BCS national titles?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_football_national_championships_in_NCAA_Di vision_I_FBS#BCS_National_Champions_by_conference_ .281998.E2.80.93present.29

Or each year they dominate the BCS Final standings

BCS FINAL STANDINGS - DEC. 4, 2011
Team BCS Average
1 LSU 1.0000
2 Alabama .9419
3 Oklahoma State .9333
4 Stanford .8476
5 Oregon .7901
6 Arkansas .7687
7 Boise State .7408
8 Kansas State .6827
9 South Carolina .6553
10 Wisconsin .6374


As far as for cheering within the conference, why do you care? I was rooting for Alabama to destroy Texas a few years back. I am sure the Longhorns did the same in our numerous BCS failures.

For me it is simple.

I root for OU
I root for anyone in the conference when they play against Texas or Okie State
I would only root for Texas or Okie State if they were playing the only team I hate more, Notre Dame.
I could care less how they do in bowls, not like I am getting the money.

JeffHCross
09-09-2012, 09:04 PM
It seems like a jr high pissing matchDuh. Every clique is still a clique.


If A&M wins are they going to be at the top of their game or are they just playing a team that's in a slump?Not really. Florida is in a slump. Arkansas is apparently not what we thought they were. But Georgia's pretty much full strength. South Carolina would be an impressive win. Alabama and LSU would be earth-shaking, OMG-level wins. (I don't recall off the top of my head who aTm and Mizzou play/don't play this year).


What exactly are the other power house football teams in the SEC besides Alabama and LSU?This year? Not much. Nobody in the East is a National Title contender, unless UGA goes undefeated (and I'd be surprised if they won the SEC title game). Alabama and LSU have obvious paths to the national title. Everybody else would be a surprise.

Note that I'm taking "power house" to mean National Title contenders. Top 25 isn't what it used to be.


if this is how they are the DOMINANT conference, I guess that makes sense, but it's not like it's 10 for them and 2 for everyone else.Seven years, dude. It's like saying the ACC is dominant (or best) in college basketball ... it's not like they're the only ones getting to the top ... it's just that they're the ones at the top (more often than not). The SEC just happens to have an even more convincing argument.

Honestly, you're overanalyzing it :D It's simple ... they're the best because they're winning.

baseballplyrmvp
09-09-2012, 09:14 PM
It seems like a jr high pissing match....why are A&M and Missouri not cheered for by other SEC teams then? If they are apart of the biggest baddest conference in the land why are the new kids on the block not apart of the SEC it's like they are outsiders. Seems like a contradiction....you either cheer for them or you don't, if you have prejudice against another team for some reason or other (rivalry, new guy on the block) the whole cheer for every SEC team doesn't make sense.because they're new to the conference. all of the other fan bases will cheer for em, but most a&m and missouri fans dont know that they're supposed to support every other team in the conference.

SmoothPancakes
09-10-2012, 12:11 AM
OUCH! Arkansas pulls a Michigan and drops from #8 to completely out of the Top 25.



AP Top 25


RK
TEAM
RECORD
PTS


1
Alabama (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/333/alabama-crimson-tide) (48)
2-0
1486


2
USC (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/30/usc-trojans) (8)
2-0
1414


3
LSU (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/99/lsu-tigers) (4)
2-0
1404


4
Oregon (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/2483/oregon-ducks)
2-0
1299


5
Oklahoma (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/201/oklahoma-sooners)
2-0
1160


5
Florida State (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/52/florida-state-seminoles)
2-0
1160


7
Georgia (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/61/georgia-bulldogs)
2-0
1155


8
South Carolina (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/2579/south-carolina-gamecocks)
2-0
1025


9
West Virginia (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/277/west-virginia-mountaineers)
1-0
1017


10
Michigan State (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/127/michigan-state-spartans)
2-0
995


11
Clemson (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/228/clemson-tigers)
2-0
868


12
Ohio State (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/194/ohio-state-buckeyes)
2-0
772


13
Virginia Tech (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/259/virginia-tech-hokies)
2-0
734


14
Texas (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/251/texas-longhorns)
2-0
716


15
Kansas State (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/2306/kansas-state-wildcats)
2-0
714


16
TCU (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/2628/tcu-horned-frogs)
1-0
542


17
Michigan (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/130/michigan-wolverines)
1-1
429


18
Florida (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/57/florida-gators)
2-0
427


19
Louisville (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/97/louisville-cardinals)
2-0
316


20
Notre Dame (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/87/notre-dame-fighting-irish)
2-0
310


21
Stanford (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/24/stanford-cardinal)
2-0
260


22
UCLA (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/26/ucla-bruins)
2-0
250


23
Tennessee (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/2633/tennessee-volunteers)
2-0
177


24
Arizona (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/12/arizona-wildcats)
2-0
149


25
Brigham Young (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/252/brigham-young-cougars)
2-0
110





Dropped from rankings: Arkansas 8, Wisconsin 13, Nebraska 16, Oklahoma State 18



Others receiving votes: Boise State 106, Arkansas 79, Nebraska 79, OREGONST 77, Mississippi State 70, Baylor 54, Wisconsin 44, ULMONROE 23, Ohio 17, Georgia Tech 15, Oklahoma State 13, South Florida 12, ARIZONAST 10, IOWAST 5, NORTHWSTRN 5, UTAHST 1, North Carolina 1






USA Today Poll


RK
TEAM
RECORD
PTS


1
Alabama (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/333/alabama-crimson-tide) (42)
2-0
1455


2
LSU (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/99/lsu-tigers) (5)
2-0
1380


3
USC (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/30/usc-trojans) (11)
2-0
1363


4
Oregon (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/2483/oregon-ducks) (1)
2-0
1292


5
Oklahoma (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/201/oklahoma-sooners)
2-0
1203


6
Florida State (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/52/florida-state-seminoles)
2-0
1153


7
Georgia (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/61/georgia-bulldogs)
2-0
1120


8
West Virginia (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/277/west-virginia-mountaineers)
1-0
1024


9
South Carolina (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/2579/south-carolina-gamecocks)
2-0
1008


10
Michigan State (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/127/michigan-state-spartans)
2-0
950


11
Clemson (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/228/clemson-tigers)
2-0
904


12
Texas (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/251/texas-longhorns)
2-0
730


13
Virginia Tech (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/259/virginia-tech-hokies)
2-0
704


14
Kansas State (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/2306/kansas-state-wildcats)
2-0
696


15
TCU (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/2628/tcu-horned-frogs)
1-0
649


16
Stanford (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/24/stanford-cardinal)
2-0
455


17
Florida (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/57/florida-gators)
2-0
452


18
Michigan (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/130/michigan-wolverines)
1-1
440


19
Notre Dame (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/87/notre-dame-fighting-irish)
2-0
398


20
Louisville (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/97/louisville-cardinals)
2-0
280


21
Arkansas (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/8/arkansas-razorbacks)
1-1
246


22
Wisconsin (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/275/wisconsin-badgers)
1-1
151


23
UCLA (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/26/ucla-bruins)
2-0
147


24
Nebraska (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/158/nebraska-cornhuskers)
1-1
135


25
Arizona (http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/12/arizona-wildcats)
2-0
120





Dropped from rankings: Oklahoma State 16, Boise State 25



Others receiving votes: Boise State 104, Oklahoma State 97, Mississippi State 88, Tennessee 71, Brigham Young 70, ARIZONAST 58, Baylor 57, Cincinnati 29, OREGONST 28, Georgia Tech 24, South Florida 21, Louisiana Tech 13, Rutgers 12, Virginia 11, IOWAST 10, NORTHWSTRN 9, WAKEFOREST 6, OLEMISS 3, Ohio 2, Washington 2, Texas Tech 2, ULMONROE 1, Texas A&M 1, Nevada 1

morsdraconis
09-10-2012, 05:10 AM
(sigh)

Top 10 team loses and WVU still doesn't move up. Talk about BS...

gigemaggs99
09-10-2012, 07:33 AM
because they're new to the conference. all of the other fan bases will cheer for em, but most a&m and missouri fans dont know that they're supposed to support every other team in the conference.

Agree to disagree.

I have no clue who you have polled or how you have this information. When have you heard A&M won't cheer for a fellow conference member? We always cheered for a fellow Big 12 member when they were playing in a bowl game or against another big time opponent....again where do these blanket statements of "most a&m and missouri fans don't know...." where does this come from?

SmoothPancakes
09-10-2012, 07:37 AM
(sigh)

Top 10 team loses and WVU still doesn't move up. Talk about BS...

Well, Arkansas was #10 last week in the coaches poll, so WVU wouldn't move at all there.

For the AP poll, technically WVU did move. South Carolina and WVU were tied for 9th place in the AP poll last week, Arkansas lost, so South Carolina took their place, WVU did remain in 9th, but without Arkansas losing, would have dropped to 10th since I doubt them and South Carolina would have tied again this week. So technically WVU moved up from what would have been 10th to 9th with Arkansas' loss.

As West Virginia didn't play this week, there's no way else they would have moved, as there was nothing new since last week to move them for, and with South Carolina improving to 2-0, they would have without a doubt pulled ahead of WVU in votes, regardless of whether or not Arkansas lost.

SmoothPancakes
09-10-2012, 07:48 AM
Agree to disagree.

I have no clue who you have polled or how you have this information. When have you heard A&M won't cheer for a fellow conference member? We always cheered for a fellow Big 12 member when they were playing in a bowl game or against another big time opponent....again where do these blanket statements of "most a&m and missouri fans don't know...." where does this come from?

Even Texas and Texas Tech?

Damn, be glad you don't root for a team up here. :D Michigan and Michigan State fans and Michigan and Ohio State fans never root for each other. There's always the exceptions, but anyone I know on both sides hate the other outright. Ohio State fans have vocally said they hoped Michigan would lose a regular season game or a bowl game, same with Michigan fans saying the same about Ohio State. I know a lot of my friends who are Michigan fans were celebrating watching Ohio State get their asses handed to them in the national title games by Florida and LSU years ago.

Granted, I'm sort of guilty of the same thing. While I'm a Navy fan, I do pretty much side with Ohio State when it comes to stuff like Ohio State-Michigan (sort of hard not to, living in Ohio, having every single family member (living both in Ohio and Maryland) be die-hard Ohio State fans), etc, so I was sort of rooting for Michigan to lose to USC and Texas during their Rose Bowl trips back in 04, 05 and 07. :blush:

Even as a Navy fan, while I may not root against them in stuff like bowl games, I usually have no care whatsoever when it comes to Air Force or Army in bowl games and whether they win or lose. Outside of Air Force-Navy week and Army-Navy week, I generally pay no attention at all to the flyboys and mules. They could go 12-0 or they could go 0-12, it would make no difference to me and I wouldn't particularly care, as long as Navy beats them.

psuexv
09-10-2012, 07:56 AM
i'll agree that bama was by far the better team, but when the game started to become a blowout, all of the bama fans started chanting "s-e-c". fans of sec teams dont just root for their team, they cheer for the conference as well. they'll even chear for their rival as long as its against a team from another conference. you go to any other team's game featuring one conference against another, and i guarantee that you dont hear "pac12" or "big10" chants, indicating that their conference is superior to the opponent's.

I'll disagree with this. Myself and I know a lot of other people that root for Big Ten teams. Even when they announce the scores at the Penn State games the fans will cheer if it's a big OOC game and the Big Ten team is winning.

Am I rooting for Ohio State to win the MNC at the beginning of the year, NO. But if they are playing in the game against at the end of the year I'm pulling for them.

gschwendt
09-10-2012, 11:39 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ1BO0vAUD8

morsdraconis
09-10-2012, 11:47 AM
Crazy bitch has a good voice...

bdoughty
09-10-2012, 03:50 PM
We always cheered for a fellow Big 12 member when they were playing in a bowl game or against another big time opponent....

We? Please I know plenty of Aggie fans and I do not recall any of them rooting for Texas in the BCS game against Alabama or USC. I doubt they were celebrating anytime Texas Tech was in a bowl game. Need to take those maroon colored glasses off, it is distorting your reality.

A simple search of any Aggie message board when those games were played would debunk your "We always" theory.

ram29jackson
09-10-2012, 04:56 PM
there were about 71,530 at the UCLA game. And about 20,000 looked like Nebraska fans

gigemaggs99
09-10-2012, 05:32 PM
We? Please I know plenty of Aggie fans and I do not recall any of them rooting for Texas in the BCS game against Alabama or USC. I doubt they were celebrating anytime Texas Tech was in a bowl game. Need to take those maroon colored glasses off, it is distorting your reality.

A simple search of any Aggie message board when those games were played would debunk your "We always" theory.


I'm not sure what to tell you sir. I guess this is why arguments have 2 sides. I AM an Aggie and I do have plenty of Aggie friends, we always cheered for a Big 12 team when they made it to a bowl game, even if it was tech. We always cheered for tu even when they played OU. I do have a hard time cheering for Bob Stoops b/c he always ran the score up on us, if he leave OU I'd cheer for OU.

I'm sure you can go on any forum and come up with stats, I have a hard time with that idea of statistics, those that take the time to log in and voice their opinion are one thing, but what about the thousands that don't. Plus those that do log in, are you telling me it's overwhelmingly PRO AGGIE and hatred towards the others, or is it more realistic and a 50-50 split?

Everyone is entitled to their opinions, I just know me and my Aggie buddies will cheer for other Big 12 teams, just like we will now cheer for other SEC teams. We are smart and know that if an SEC team makes it to a bowl we will also get a cut of the paycheck, just as we did when other Big 12 teams went to bowl games.

I enjoy watching tu play and will root for them when they aren't playing A&M, but it really sucks that you can't even watch them now b/c they have their high and mighty LHN. Even my neighbor who is a HUGE t-sip fan won't pay for the LNH, he's pissed b/c he can't watch their games.

It seemed like a good idea, but it sure did separate the psycho elite rich tu fans from the commoners.

Look at ND, they are on NBC on all their home games, this opens their viewing audience up to a lot more of the nation. Why didn't tu do something smart like that?

Will the everyday fan even have a chance to see tu on TV this year? If so, I'll cheer for them, maroon colored glasses and all. :up:

Maybe the difference is, you know plenty of Aggie fans....I know pleny of Aggie Grads..

Gig 'Em,
Gus '99

ram29jackson
09-10-2012, 05:42 PM
fan message boards account for less then 5% of any fan base. I doubt it gives an idea of any majority thoughts.

souljahbill
09-10-2012, 06:05 PM
There will be fans who will root for their conference mates and fans who won't. Personal preference. We can't generalize that ALL fans do or do not.

I personally root against Memphis every chance I get. I HATE Memphis!

bdoughty
09-10-2012, 06:10 PM
I'm not sure what to tell you sir. I guess this is why arguments have 2 sides. I AM an Aggie and I do have plenty of Aggie friends, we always cheered for a Big 12 team when they made it to a bowl game, even if it was tech. We always cheered for tu even when they played OU. I do have a hard time cheering for Bob Stoops b/c he always ran the score up on us, if he leave OU I'd cheer for OU.

I'm sure you can go on any forum and come up with stats, I have a hard time with that idea of statistics, those that take the time to log in and voice their opinion are one thing, but what about the thousands that don't. Plus those that do log in, are you telling me it's overwhelmingly PRO AGGIE and hatred towards the others, or is it more realistic and a 50-50 split?

Everyone is entitled to their opinions, I just know me and my Aggie buddies will cheer for other Big 12 teams, just like we will now cheer for other SEC teams. We are smart and know that if an SEC team makes it to a bowl we will also get a cut of the paycheck, just as we did when other Big 12 teams went to bowl games.

I enjoy watching tu play and will root for them when they aren't playing A&M, but it really sucks that you can't even watch them now b/c they have their high and mighty LHN. Even my neighbor who is a HUGE t-sip fan won't pay for the LNH, he's pissed b/c he can't watch their games.

It seemed like a good idea, but it sure did separate the psycho elite rich tu fans from the commoners.

Look at ND, they are on NBC on all their home games, this opens their viewing audience up to a lot more of the nation. Why didn't tu do something smart like that?

Will the everyday fan even have a chance to see tu on TV this year? If so, I'll cheer for them, maroon colored glasses and all. :up:

Maybe the difference is, you know plenty of Aggie fans....I know pleny of Aggie Grads..

Gig 'Em,
Gus '99


Born and raised in Lubbock, lived in Arlington and worked around Veterinarians for a few years. Safe to say I know PLENTY of Aggie Grads. As for not liking Bob Stoops? Is it his fault the Aggies could not put a competitive team on the field?

For cripes sake you want bad sportsmanship, we were just trying to run out the clock.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPquR4eXa84

Cheering when you are down 77-0? Now that is Aggie logic at work.


Rammypoo,

The Aggie fan said, "WE." As if speaking for Aggie Nation as to how they root for all the teams in the conference they are in. Internet forums are just one example of disproving this mythical "WE" nonsense. You know it is B.S., now go back to hating on women's sports and leave the big boy discussion to the big boys. :P

gigemaggs99
09-10-2012, 07:48 PM
"we" born and raised in the Hub City and you're a booner sooner? Well I'm sorry sir, it's one thing to speak on behalf of your sooners or your t-sips or your Plainsman or Mustangs or where ever you went to school, but to speak on behalf of Aggies when you're not one is hard to take to heart. Sorry for continuing this conversation well past it's expiration date.

I speak on behalf the Aggies I know and the Aggie I am myself. I don't speak for the few bad apples I've met from tech, or other schools. My brother and cousin both went to tech, they cheer for tech when they play the Aggies b/c it's a good love/hate relationship, but when a Big 12 team is playing outside of the conference they cheer for a Big 12 team, even the Aggies. Same goes for us.

My Dad a tenured petroleum engineering professor at tech does the same.

My fellow Coronado Mustang buddies that went to other Big 12 schools do the same, wait for it....even my Coronado/A&M buddies....

Even Dr. Jones our family Veterinarian for 20+ years in the great Hub City does the same, say HOWDY to him next time you talk with him. He's a great Doctor.

So you see, I may not have youtube videos or random forum statistics but I know where I stand, I'm not saying your different or the same, I'm just saying from my side of the fence this is how I see it. Agree or disagree, it's a free country the A&M fans and grads I know cheer for fellow conference members, plain and simple.

Gig 'Em Aggies and good luck to your team.

Gus '99

bdoughty
09-10-2012, 08:42 PM
For the record

I was a Monterey Plainsmen, was born into a family of Sooners and as long as "we" is defined as the people you know and not Aggie nation, I am fine with that.

gigemaggs99
09-10-2012, 09:36 PM
For the record

I was a Monterey Plainsmen, was born into a family of Sooners and as long as "we" is defined as the people you know and not Aggie nation, I am fine with that.

Where did I use "we" = Aggie nation?

If I'm not mistaken you are the one that brought up the Aggie nation, which there is no such thing. There is an AGGIE NETWORK, and since I am a member of that Network I should be able to speak on their behalf. Am I saying ALL AGGIE NETWORK people do one thing only, no way.

You can continue to speak on behalf of your Aggie nation, I'm not sure what that is.

My point is, you're free to think what you want. Inside the Aggie Network WE know what we believe, is everyone in the AGGIE Network an ALL or nothing thing, NO WAY, opinions vary, it's a free country. All the Aggies I know think the same way I do. Does this mean the hundreds of thousands of Aggie graduates think the same way, NO FREAKING WAY. You are speaking on behalf of some Aggies you know, I am an Aggie and I'm telling what I believe + what other Aggies I know believe...when you want to contradict that, join our ranks then we can further discuss it, until then it's an outsiders perspective.

Gig 'EM Aggies,
Gus '99

bdoughty
09-10-2012, 09:59 PM
There is an AGGIE NETWORK, and since I am a member of that Network I should be able to speak on their behalf. Am I saying ALL AGGIE NETWORK people do one thing only, no way.

That like me saying that I am member of Amazon Prime, therefore I should be able to speak on their behalf. Am I saying ALL Amazon Prime members do one thing only, no way dude.

:fp:

Seriously, you speak on your own behalf, let the others speak for themselves.

SmoothPancakes
09-10-2012, 10:02 PM
This is just getting comical now. :D

bdoughty
09-10-2012, 10:11 PM
This is just getting comical now. :D

You sir are not part of the Aggie Nation, We, BET, NBC, Framework, err I mean NETWORK, therefore your opinion only matters if it is spoke on behalf of gigemaggs99, though the opinion itself may vary*.

* Only available on The Aggie Network, terms and conditions apply.

baseballplyrmvp
09-10-2012, 10:43 PM
some hopeful news for this young kid:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--tulane-s-devon-walker--alert-and-responsive---prognosis-still-unknown.html

wish him the best and hope he isnt fully paralyzed

steelerfan
09-10-2012, 11:13 PM
some hopeful news for this young kid:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--tulane-s-devon-walker--alert-and-responsive---prognosis-still-unknown.html

wish him the best and hope he isnt fully paralyzed

Thanks for sharing. Good news.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I997 using Tapatalk 2

gigemaggs99
09-11-2012, 08:57 AM
You sir are not part of the Aggie Nation, We, BET, NBC, Framework, err I mean NETWORK, therefore your opinion only matters if it is spoke on behalf of gigemaggs99, though the opinion itself may vary*.

* Only available on The Aggie Network, terms and conditions apply.

LOL, ok....I had a good long probably boring post typed up but what's the point.

Good luck sir.

gigemaggs99
09-11-2012, 09:02 AM
Thanks for sharing. Good news.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I997 using Tapatalk 2


+1 Thanks for posting this.

JeffHCross
09-13-2012, 08:46 PM
So, apparently, George O'Leary thinks UCF fans are louder than Ohio State fans (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/videogallery/72138035/Sports/Listen-O-Leary-says-UCF-fans-are-louder-than-Ohio-State-fans).

Maybe he will add that to his resume'. ;)So, during the game this weekend, the ESPN announcer (Beth Mowins) mentioned, repeatedly, that Ohio Stadium was incredibly quiet. She pointed out that she could hear the quarterback clap, to start the play, echo through the stadium. I'll admit it ... I was really surprised by how quiet it was.

Then a blog I just read pointed out that all of those comments were while Ohio State was on offense. :fp: @ her and :fp: @ me.

We were a lot quieter than I would have expected though. But the game was boring.

souljahbill
09-13-2012, 08:53 PM
So, during the game this weekend, the ESPN announcer (Beth Mowins) mentioned, repeatedly, that Ohio Stadium was incredibly quiet. She pointed out that she could hear the quarterback clap, to start the play, echo through the stadium. I'll admit it ... I was really surprised by how quiet it was.

Then a blog I just read pointed out that all of those comments were while Ohio State was on offense. :fp: @ her and :fp: @ me.

We were a lot quieter than I would have expected though. But the game was boring.

Yeah, I could hear Miller clap loudly (usually twice) while watching it on tv.

SmoothPancakes
09-15-2012, 12:37 PM
...

SmoothPancakes
09-15-2012, 12:40 PM
Yeah, I could hear Miller clap loudly (usually twice) while watching it on tv.

Watching Ohio State's game (just getting to watch Ohio State for the first time all season due to usually being asleep at this time), if that's the way Ohio State does their snaps in the shotgun, with Miller clapping loudly to signal the center to snap it, you're practically giving the defense the jump on the snap. As soon as Miller claps his hands, time to get ready to rush in only a second or two and try to jump the snap and beat your blocker.

SmoothPancakes
09-15-2012, 12:44 PM
Fuck, wrong week.

souljahbill
09-15-2012, 12:46 PM
No one did a week 3 thread

SmoothPancakes
09-15-2012, 12:48 PM
No one did a week 3 thread

There was one, it just hasn't been popular this week. :D I have been awake since 5pm yesterday afternoon, so not recognizing that I was in week 2 when I meant to post in week 3 is not too surprising. :D

souljahbill
09-15-2012, 12:49 PM
There was one, it just hasn't been popular this week. :D I have been awake since 5pm yesterday afternoon, so not recognizing that I was in week 2 when I meant to post in week 3 is not too surprising. :D

Yeah, I missed it myself.

SCClassof93
09-16-2012, 06:56 AM
nah, we'll go 14-0 this year. ;)


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baseballplyrmvp
09-16-2012, 09:20 AM
after that performance last night, we deserved to lose.

gigemaggs99
10-27-2012, 09:54 PM
#1 The Spread (as a primarily/only form of offense) simply isn't going to fly anymore in that conference b/c the vast majority of SEC defenses are too big, fast, strong for the bubbles, option reads, etc... to work. You end up with the QB running around like a chicken with its head cut off (see yesterday). Manziel only averaged 5.8 yards a completion. Dink and Dunk isn't going to cut it.

#2 Florida is "DOWN" this year and if you take away the first 3 possessions of the game A&M did nothing on offense.

#3 We will see how "mighty" you think it is when :Texas_A&M: finishes 2-6 in conference.

A&M doesn't have the athleticism and depth it needs to compete with the "mighty" yet. Now I think they can in 3-4 years but its going to be a LONG process before they get up to where they can legitimately compete in the SEC.


How do you like our Conference USA offense now?

How do you like our SEC defensive sack leader?

How do you like our Dink and Dunk offense now?

2-6? I think not! Maybe it's b/c we came from the lesser Big 12?

I find it VERY VERY wild that when we beat an SEC team, the excuses are, well Auburn isn't an SEC powerhouse, however when an SEC powerhouse LSU & Florida comes to town they do not beat the daylights out of us.

I find it wild that our "lack of depth" was going to be our weakness....

"A&M doesn't have the athleticism and depth it needs to compete with the "mighty" yet. Now I think they can in 3-4 years but its going to be a LONG process before they get up to where they can legitimately compete in the SEC." Do you still think like this?

Gig 'Em AGGIES!

Gus '99


P.S. we're going BOWLING in our first year in the "mighty" SEC WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOP!!!!!!!!!!