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NatureBoy
08-22-2012, 08:24 AM
Beloit, Wis. – This year’s entering college class of 2016 was born into cyberspace and they have therefore measured their output in the fundamental particles of life: bits, bytes, and bauds. They have come to political consciousness during a time of increasing doubts about America’s future, and are entering college bombarded by questions about jobs and the value of a college degree. They have never needed an actual airline “ticket,” a set of bound encyclopedias, or Romper Room.

Members of this year’s freshman class, most of them born in 1994, are probably the most tribal generation in history and they despise being separated from contact with friends. They prefer to watch television everywhere except on a television, have seen a woman lead the U.S. State Department for most of their lives, and can carry school books–those that are not on their e-Readers–in backpacks that roll.

The class of 2016 was born the year of the professional baseball strike and the last year for NFL football in Los Angeles. They have spent much of their lives educating their parents to understand that you don’t take pictures on “film” and that CDs and DVDs are not “tapes.” Those parents have been able to review the crime statistics for the colleges their children have applied to and then pop an Aleve as needed. In these students’ lifetimes, with MP3 players and iPods, they seldom listen to the car radio.

A quarter of the entering students already have suffered some hearing loss. Since they’ve been born, the United States has measured progress by a 2 percent jump in unemployment and a 16-cent rise in the price of a first class postage stamp.

Each August since 1998, Beloit College has released the Beloit College Mindset List, providing a look at the cultural touchstones that shape the lives of students entering college this fall. The creation of Beloit’s former Public Affairs Director Ron Nief and Keefer Professor of the Humanities Tom McBride, authors of The Mindset Lists of American History: From Typewriters to Text Messages, What Ten Generations of Americans Think Is Normal (John Wiley and Sons), it was originally created as a reminder to faculty to be aware of dated references.

It quickly became an internationally monitored catalog of the changing worldview of each new college generation. Mindset List websites at themindsetlist.com and Beloit.edu, as well as the Mediasite webcast and their Facebook page receive more than a million visits annually.

For those who cannot comprehend that it has been 18 years since this year’s entering college students were born, they should recognize that the next four years will go even faster, confirming the authors’ belief that “generation gaps have always needed glue.”

For this generation of entering college students, born in 1994, Kurt Cobain, Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis, Richard Nixon and John Wayne Gacy have always been dead.

1. They should keep their eyes open for Justin Bieber or Dakota Fanning at freshman orientation.

2. They have always lived in cyberspace, addicted to a new generation of “electronic narcotics.”

3. The Biblical sources of terms such as “Forbidden Fruit,” “The writing on the wall,” “Good Samaritan,” and “The Promised Land” are unknown to most of them.

4. Michael Jackson’s family, not the Kennedys, constitutes “American Royalty.”

5. If they miss The Daily Show, they can always get their news on YouTube.

6. Their lives have been measured in the fundamental particles of life: bits, bytes, and bauds.

7. Robert De Niro is thought of as Greg Focker’s long-suffering father-in-law, not as Vito Corleone or Jimmy Conway.

8. Bill Clinton is a senior statesman of whose presidency they have little knowledge.

9. They have never seen an airplane “ticket.”

10. On TV and in films, the ditzy dumb blonde female generally has been replaced by a couple of Dumb and Dumber males.

11. The paradox “too big to fail” has been, for their generation, what “we had to destroy the village in order to save it” was for their grandparents’.

12. For most of their lives, maintaining relations between the U.S. and the rest of the world has been a woman’s job in the State Department.

13. They can’t picture people actually carrying luggage through airports rather than rolling it.

14. There has always been football in Jacksonville but never in Los Angeles.

15. Having grown up with MP3s and iPods, they never listen to music on the car radio and really have no use for radio at all.

16. Since they’ve been born, the United States has measured progress by a 2 percent jump in unemployment and a 16 cent rise in the price of a first class postage stamp.

17. Benjamin Braddock, having given up both a career in plastics and a relationship with Mrs. Robinson, could be their grandfather.

18. Their folks have never gazed with pride on a new set of bound encyclopedias on the bookshelf.

19. The Green Bay Packers have always celebrated with the Lambeau Leap.

20. Exposed bra straps have always been a fashion statement, not a wardrobe malfunction to be corrected quietly by well-meaning friends.

21. A significant percentage of them will enter college already displaying some hearing loss.

22. The Real World has always “stopped being polite and started getting real” on MTV.

23. Women have always piloted war planes and space shuttles.

24. White House security has never felt it necessary to wear rubber gloves when *** groups have visited.

25. They have lived in an era of instant stardom and self-proclaimed celebrities, famous for being famous.

26. Having made the acquaintance of Furby at an early age, they have expected their toy friends to do ever more unpredictable things.

27. Outdated icons with images of floppy discs for “save,” a telephone for “phone,” and a snail mail envelope for “mail” have oddly decorated their tablets and smart phone screens.

28. Star Wars has always been just a film, not a defense strategy.

29. They have had to incessantly remind their parents not to refer to their CDs and DVDs as “tapes.”

30. There have always been blue M&Ms, but no tan ones.

31. Along with online viewbooks, parents have always been able to check the crime stats for the colleges their kids have selected.

32. Newt Gingrich has always been a key figure in politics, trying to change the way America thinks about everything.

33. They have come to political consciousness during a time of increasing doubts about America’s future.

34. Billy Graham is as familiar to them as Otto Graham was to their parents.

35. Probably the most tribal generation in history, they despise being separated from contact with their similar-aged friends.

36. Stephen Breyer has always been an Associate Justice on the U.S. Supreme Court.

37. Martin Lawrence has always been banned from hosting Saturday Night Live.

38. Slavery has always been unconstitutional in Mississippi, and Southern Baptists have always been apologizing for supporting it in the first place.

39. The Metropolitan Opera House in New York has always translated operas on seatback screens.

40. A bit of the late Gene Roddenberry, creator of Star Trek, has always existed in space.

41. Good music programmers are rock stars to the women of this generation, just as guitar players were for their mothers.

42. Gene therapy has always been an available treatment.

43. They were too young to enjoy the 1994 World Series, but then no one else got to enjoy it either.

44. The folks have always been able to grab an Aleve when the kids started giving them a migraine.

45. While the iconic TV series for their older siblings was the sci-fi show Lost, for them it’s Breaking Bad, a gritty crime story motivated by desperate economic circumstances.

46. Simba has always had trouble waiting to be King.

47. Before they purchase an assigned textbook, they will investigate whether it is available for rent or purchase as an e-book.

48. They grew up, somehow, without the benefits of Romper Room.

49. There has always been a World Trade Organization.

50. L.L. Bean hunting shoes have always been known as just plain Bean Boots.

51. They have always been able to see Starz on Direct TV.

52. Ice skating competitions have always been jumping matches.

53. There has always been a Santa Clause.

54. NBC has never shown A Wonderful Life more than twice during the holidays.

55. Mr. Burns has replaced J.R.Ewing as the most shot-at man on American television.

56. They have always enjoyed school and summer camp memories with a digital yearbook.

57. Herr Schindler has always had a List; Mr. Spielberg has always had an Oscar.

58. Selena’s fans have always been in mourning.

59. They know many established film stars by their voices on computer-animated blockbusters.

60. History has always had its own channel.

61. Thousands have always been gathering for “million-man” demonstrations in Washington, D.C.

62. Television and film dramas have always risked being pulled because the story line was too close to the headlines from which they were ”ripped.”

63. The Twilight Zone involves vampires, not Rod Serling.

64. Robert Osborne has always been introducing Hollywood history on TCM.

65. Little Caesar has always been proclaiming “Pizza Pizza.”

66. They have no recollection of when Arianna Huffington was a conservative.

67. Chronic Fatigue Syndrome has always been officially recognized with clinical guidelines.

68. They watch television everywhere but on a television.

69. Pulp Fiction’s meal of a “Royale with Cheese” and an “Amos and Andy milkshake” has little or no resonance with them.

70. Point-and-shoot cameras are soooooo last millennium.

71. Despite being preferred urban gathering places, two-thirds of the independent bookstores in the United States have closed for good during their lifetimes.

72. Astronauts have always spent well over a year in a single space flight.

73. Lou Gehrig’s record for most consecutive baseball games played has never stood in their lifetimes.

74. Genomes of living things have always been sequenced.

75. The Sistine Chapel ceiling has always been brighter and cleaner.

http://themindsetlist.com/2012/08/the-beloit-college-mindset-list-for-the-class-of-2016/

psuexv
08-22-2012, 08:52 AM
Shit I feel old.

30. There have always been blue M&Ms, but no tan ones.
73. Lou Gehrig’s record for most consecutive baseball games played has never stood in their lifetimes.

SmoothPancakes
08-22-2012, 11:52 AM
Yep. I second psuexv's statement.

CLW
08-22-2012, 05:13 PM
LMAO time for a mid-life crisis at 32. :smh:

SmoothPancakes
08-22-2012, 06:33 PM
LMAO time for a mid-life crisis at 32. :smh:

I'm only 25 and a couple months, yet can identify with everything on that list (I remember trying to find some good cassette tapes for the cassette player in my first car after I got my license), to the point that it almost feels like ancient history for me. Even only being 25, fuck I feel old reading through all of that and thinking of how easy life is for kids today (college, high school and elementary school alike). :smh: I still remember when gas was, at MOST, a $1.65 when I first started driving, usually $1.50 or less.

I just read a story in the rag the other day, about a class of 2nd grade kids learning to use their assigned iPads (one for every student to use and take home during the school year). When I was in second grade, we didn't even have a fucking full sized computer in the classroom (teachers didn't even start having computers on their desk until I hit 6th grade) and the only time you ever got to use a computer in elementary school was during your two one-hour sessions a week that your class got to go to the computer lab and sit there playing Oregon Trail and other random "educational" games, when not doing some "computer learning" lessons. Now 2nd graders are getting their own personally assigned iPad to carry around and take home throughout the school year.

A: Absolutely ridiculous, and B: Fuck I felt (and still feel) old after seeing the picture that went with the story.

morsdraconis
08-23-2012, 07:55 AM
Going through the list, these are things that I remember becoming a reality during my childhood. As everyone has said, god damn I feel old...

2. They have always lived in cyberspace, addicted to a new generation of “electronic narcotics.”
Christ, I can remember when I first tasted the internet. It wasn't even the internet as we knew it when it started. It was local BBSs that you connected to via a 28k dialup modem. That was the time of ASCII characters creating things like Legend of the Red Dragon! (http://lord.nuklear.org/) God damn were those the days.

7. Robert De Niro is thought of as Greg Focker’s long-suffering father-in-law, not as Vito Corleone or Jimmy Conway.
Again, I remember the first time I watched both The Godfather and Goodfellas. My god, what AMAZING movies.

8. Bill Clinton is a senior statesman of whose presidency they have little knowledge.
Ha. Boy were politics interesting back then.

9. They have never seen an airplane “ticket.”
This shit is just CRAZY to think.

10. On TV and in films, the ditzy dumb blonde female generally has been replaced by a couple of Dumb and Dumber males.
I miss the stereotypical ditzy blonde. :(

15. Having grown up with MP3s and iPods, they never listen to music on the car radio and really have no use for radio at all.
This one is awesome. I fuckin' HATE the radio.

18. Their folks have never gazed with pride on a new set of bound encyclopedias on the bookshelf.
I remember when my parents bought me my first set of encyclopedias. Sadly, the internet as it is now came to be shortly after that and Google took over the world.

20. Exposed bra straps have always been a fashion statement, not a wardrobe malfunction to be corrected quietly by well-meaning friends.
If by fashion statement, they mean to say, "Hey, I'm dressed like a slut", then yes.

21. A significant percentage of them will enter college already displaying some hearing loss.
Bah. I listen to loud music all the time and my hearing is just as good as it was 20 years ago.

25. They have lived in an era of instant stardom and self-proclaimed celebrities, famous for being famous.
I hate this about out society.

27. Outdated icons with images of floppy discs for “save,” a telephone for “phone,” and a snail mail envelope for “mail” have oddly decorated their tablets and smart phone screens.
It's crazy to think that these kids have no idea what that stuff was but just equate it to mean what the icon is used for now. Crazy...

32. Newt Gingrich has always been a key figure in politics, trying to change the way America thinks about everything.
:smh:

41. Good music programmers are rock stars to the women of this generation, just as guitar players were for their mothers.
I don't know about all that...

45. While the iconic TV series for their older siblings was the sci-fi show Lost, for them it’s Breaking Bad, a gritty crime story motivated by desperate economic circumstances.
Wow. I never thought about that. Those poor bastards. Neither of those shows are iconic for me. Star Trek: TNG, Ren & Stimpy, and Invader Zim are iconic shows to me.

46. Simba has always had trouble waiting to be King.
My god. That movie was so PERFECT.

59. They know many established film stars by their voices on computer-animated blockbusters.
This is incredibly sad.

68. They watch television everywhere but on a television.
I don't miss this one bit. I love watching what I want whenever I feel like.

69. Pulp Fiction’s meal of a “Royale with Cheese” and an “Amos and Andy milkshake” has little or no resonance with them.
Fuck them. Pulp Fiction should be required viewing.

70. Point-and-shoot cameras are soooooo last millennium.
This shit still blows me away. I remember having one of the old style film cameras that needed to be wound every time you wanted to use it.

71. Despite being preferred urban gathering places, two-thirds of the independent bookstores in the United States have closed for good during their lifetimes.
Don't miss this either. That's just business and their executives failing to follow market trends correctly.

CLW
08-23-2012, 08:01 AM
For whatever it is worth here is the list prepared for my year:



The people starting college this fall across the nation were born in 1980.
They have no meaningful recollection of the Reagan era, and did not know he had ever been shot.
They were prepubescent when the Persian Gulf War was waged.
Black Monday 1987 is as significant to them as the Great Depression.
There has only been one Pope. They can only remember one other president.
They were 11 when the Soviet Union broke apart, and do not remember the Cold War.
They have never feared a nuclear war. “The Day After” is a pill to them—not a movie.
They are too young to remember the Space Shuttle Challenger blowing up.
Their lifetime has always included AIDS.
They never had a polio shot, and likely, do not know what it is.
Bottle caps have not always been screw off, but have always been plastic. They have no idea what a pull top can looks like.
Atari pre-dates them, as do vinyl albums.
The expression “you sound like a broken record” means nothing to them.
They have never owned a record player.
They have likely never played Pac Man, and have never heard of “Pong.”
Star Wars looks very fake to them, and the special effects are pathetic.
There have always been red M&Ms, and blue ones are not new. What do you mean there used to be beige ones?
They may never have heard of an 8-track, and chances are they’ve never heard or seen one.
The compact disc was introduced when they were one year old.
As far as they know, stamps have always cost about 32 cents.
They have always had an answering machine.
Most have never seen a TV set with only 13 channels, nor have they seen a black & white TV.
They have always had cable.
There have always been VCRs, but they have no idea what Beta is.
They cannot fathom what it was like not having a remote control.
They were born the year Walkmen were introduced by Sony.
Roller-skating has always meant in-line for them.
“The Tonight Show” has always been with Jay Leno.
They have no idea when or why Jordache jeans were cool.
Popcorn has always been cooked in the microwave.
They have never seen Larry Bird play, and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is a football player.
They never took a swim and thought about Jaws.
The Vietnam War is as ancient history to them as WWI and WWII or even the Civil War.
They have no idea that Americans were ever held hostage in Iran.
They can’t imagine what hard contact lenses are.
They don’t know who Mork was, or where he was from.
They never heard the terms “Where’s the Beef?”, “I’d walk a mile for a Camel” or “De plane, de plane!”
They do not care who shot J.R. and have no idea who J.R. is.
The Titanic was found? I thought we always knew where it was.
Michael Jackson has always been white.
Kansas, Boston, Chicago, America, and Alabama are all places—not music groups.
McDonald’s never came in Styrofoam containers.
There has always been MTV, and it has always included non-musical shows.

I'd note that a TON of these were FALSE (roughly 1/2 false) for me when I entered college. Perhaps many of those on today's list are FALSE as well to most of today's youth?

psuexv
08-23-2012, 08:23 AM
I just read a story in the rag the other day, about a class of 2nd grade kids learning to use their assigned iPads (one for every student to use and take home during the school year). When I was in second grade, we didn't even have a fucking full sized computer in the classroom (teachers didn't even start having computers on their desk until I hit 6th grade) and the only time you ever got to use a computer in elementary school was during your two one-hour sessions a week that your class got to go to the computer lab and sit there playing Oregon Trail and other random "educational" games, when not doing some "computer learning" lessons. Now 2nd graders are getting their own personally assigned iPad to carry around and take home throughout the school year.


Dude we had to take a typing class in High School and it was on a typewriter :) We had like 2 computer labs in our High School, one for Auto Cadd and another one that I took a class on Lotus 123

psuexv
08-23-2012, 08:26 AM
McDonald’s never came in Styrofoam containers.

Don't forget that McDonalds always had breakfast.

psuexv
08-23-2012, 08:54 AM
A significant percentage of them will enter college already displaying some hearing loss.
Bah. I listen to loud music all the time and my hearing is just as good as it was 20 years ago.

I think this one is more the fact that they always have ear buds in and they are terrible for your hearing.

ram29jackson
08-23-2012, 05:39 PM
41. Good music programmers are rock stars to the women of this generation, just as guitar players were for their mothers.

LOL

ram29jackson
08-23-2012, 05:42 PM
hey were born the year Walkmen were introduced by Sony

auto rewind was the greatest invention ever...

JeffHCross
08-24-2012, 12:17 AM
15. Having grown up with MP3s and iPods, they never listen to music on the car radio and really have no use for radio at all.
This one is awesome. I fuckin' HATE the radio.This is one of the only ones on the list I'm skeptical of. Yes, this year's freshmen are a lot younger than me, but not by enough that I'd believe they don't listen to the radio at all. It's definitely not what it used to be, and I'm sure it's intentional exaggeration, but most of the rest of the list was believable.


41. Good music programmers are rock stars to the women of this generation, just as guitar players were for their mothers.
I don't know about all that...

45. While the iconic TV series for their older siblings was the sci-fi show Lost, for them it’s Breaking Bad, a gritty crime story motivated by desperate economic circumstances.
Wow. I never thought about that. Those poor bastards. Neither of those shows are iconic for me. Star Trek: TNG, Ren & Stimpy, and Invader Zim are iconic shows to me.Okay, I'm skeptical of both of those too. Breaking Bad (as well as Lost) are great series and all ...... but that statement implies that high schoolers are watching both shows. I'm not sure I believe that about either show. MTV still dominates way too much of that demographic.


I'd note that a TON of these were FALSE (roughly 1/2 false) for me when I entered college. Perhaps many of those on today's list are FALSE as well to most of today's youth?Hell. I was four years behind you and a lot of them are false for me. There are way too many assumptions in here.

They have never seen Larry Bird play, <--- wat? 1992 Dream Team.
and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is a football player. <--- wat? Who's that?
They never took a swim and thought about Jaws. <--- I still do, if I'm in the ocean.
The Vietnam War is as ancient history to them as WWI and WWII or even the Civil War. <--- No.
They have no idea that Americans were ever held hostage in Iran. <--- Apparently no one born in 1980 ever took a history class?
They can’t imagine what hard contact lenses are. <-- My parents did, and still do, wear hard contacts. Assumptions for the win!
They don’t know who Mork was, or where he was from. <--- Nanu-Nanu! Apparently Beloit College was unaware of Nick at Nite.
They never heard the terms “Where’s the Beef?”, “I’d walk a mile for a Camel” or “De plane, de plane!” <--- If you're from Ohio, you've heard "Where's the Beef".
They do not care who shot J.R. and have no idea who J.R. is. <--- Bullshit.

SmoothPancakes
08-24-2012, 12:32 AM
They have never seen Larry Bird play, <--- wat? 1992 Dream Team.
and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is a football player. <--- wat? Who's that?
They never took a swim and thought about Jaws. <--- I still do, if I'm in the ocean.
The Vietnam War is as ancient history to them as WWI and WWII or even the Civil War. <--- No.
They have no idea that Americans were ever held hostage in Iran. <--- Apparently no one born in 1980 ever took a history class?
They can’t imagine what hard contact lenses are. <-- My parents did, and still do, wear hard contacts. Assumptions for the win!
They don’t know who Mork was, or where he was from. <--- Nanu-Nanu! Apparently Beloit College was unaware of Nick at Nite.
They never heard the terms “Where’s the Beef?”, “I’d walk a mile for a Camel” or “De plane, de plane!” <--- If you're from Ohio, you've heard "Where's the Beef".
They do not care who shot J.R. and have no idea who J.R. is. <--- Bullshit.

Hell, I was born in 1987 and almost all of these are false for me. I was too young to remember Larry Bird playing, so that would be partially true. I've thought about Jaws before when swimming in the ocean or even a lake. I don't know who the hell couldn't know about the Iran hostages unless they were asleep the entire year in history class. Sure, the Gulf War was fresher for me, but Vietnam wasn't "ancient history" even for me. My sister wore hard contacts for years, so I knew of them before I was even 13. Born in 1987 and even I know who Mork was. I've heard the team "Where's the Beef?" more times than I could possibly remember or count. And again, born in 1987 and even I knew who the hell J.R. was (and looooong before they ever even thought of rebooting and modernizing Dallas). I don't know how the hell you could NOT know who J.R was, even if you were born in the 90s. EVERYBODY knew and knows who J.R. was/is.

Definitely taking and using some creative assumptions and exaggerations in some of these lists.

psuexv
08-24-2012, 01:18 PM
Here's one. They will never know what this means :)

up down up down left right left right a b a b start

morsdraconis
08-24-2012, 01:34 PM
Here's one. They will never know what this means :)

up up down down left right left right a b a b start

Fixed it for ya ;)

gschwendt
08-24-2012, 01:38 PM
Here's one. They will never know what this means :)

up down up down left right left right a b a b start

Fixed it for ya ;)
:fp:
up up down down left right left right b a b a start

SmoothPancakes
08-24-2012, 01:40 PM
:D

psuexv
08-24-2012, 01:44 PM
Ummmm... mines right, right?

JeffHCross
08-24-2012, 04:09 PM
No, Eric. :Up::Up::Down::Down: does not equal :Up::Down::Up::Down:, among other problems.

Wow, if we had Select or Start emoticons, you could do the entire Konami code with emoticons :D

( Wiki only says one "BA" sequence for Konami Code .... hmm )

SmoothPancakes
08-24-2012, 06:12 PM
No, Eric. :Up::Up::Down::Down: does not equal :Up::Down::Up::Down:, among other problems.

Wow, if we had Select or Start emoticons, you could do the entire Konami code with emoticons :D

( Wiki only says one "BA" sequence for Konami Code .... hmm )

It's different if you want 3 lives, 30 lives or unlimited lives. 30 lives and unlimited lives adds the second BA sequence.

baseballplyrmvp
08-25-2012, 02:11 PM
:D at the last 5 or so posts

psusnoop
08-28-2012, 12:01 PM
Man, I just charged my battery for my old man cart. This shit is making me feel really old