NCAA Football 13 - General Impressions Thread

[SmoothPancakes]

:fp: Only ram. :fp:

[I OU a Beatn]

Um... yeah. I was kidding. I started to put a smiley but I assumed everyone would already be able to see through it anyway.

Everyone did.............................except Ram. :D

[JBHuskers]

Everyone did.............................except Ram. :D

:nod:

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[Kingpin32]

Everyone did.............................except Ram. :D
Welp.

[ram29jackson]

ROFL!



http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t137/Monkey_heads/sarcasm_detector.jpg?t=1241917109

yeah,yeah,yeah :)


:troll:


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he's really enjoying that new one isnt he :D


Um... yeah. I was kidding. I started to put a smiley but I assumed everyone would already be able to see through it anyway.

yeah, except you hardly say anything and are serious most of the time, so I got confused for a minute :)


:fp: Only ram. :fp:

:D ooohhhhh shuuuuut uuuuupp




Everyone did.............................except Ram. :D

darn dude, I wanted you stay on the ps3 side of the tourney :(

[ram29jackson]

Like in all seriousness, I can't believe this game doesn't have online weather, it's ridiculous. The one thing that helps keep online play refreshing is now gone. Awesome.

when's my pm then ?

[JeffHCross]

Um... yeah. I was kidding. I started to put a smiley but I assumed everyone would already be able to see through it anyway.I'll admit I almost didn't at first ...

Probably because you didn't start it with "if it makes you feel any better"

[souljahbill]

Just wanted to say that I won the Floyd of Rosedale trophy in a Play Now game and got an extra cutscene with the players hoisting the trophy.

BTW, F :Iowa:

[jaymo76]

Just finishng up season two as the RICE OC. We went 8-4 after a tough 5-7 first season. Got an invite to play Temple at Beef O'Brady Bowl. The NC Game is... RUTGERS 11-0 versus... ARKANSAS STATE 11-0... :fp:

On a side note, the Coaching Carousel might have some bugs. The LOWEST rated coaches on the display screen are NOT the lowest rated coaches (re job security) when you go into the coaching list. The first offseason there were very few changes. We will see what happens in CC 2.

[jaymo76]

So I play the Beef O'Brady Bowl vs Temple and I win 25-21. It's a great game and at the end I am waiting to see the bowl ceremony or whatever it's called... and the game FREEZES. This is my second freeze since I have been playing. Well, I simmed the game and ended up winning 30-14 but it's that kind of stuff that really makes me angry with this game.

[I OU a Beatn]

I have one thing on my wishlist for NCAA '14. Keep all the glitches. Keep the goon kick. Keep the shake blitz. Keep the online lag. Keep all the disconnection glitches. I don't even care. Seriously, I don't, just as long as they get rid of the stupid ass route mirroring. Not only does it look stupid as hell watching defenders consistently running routes ahead of receivers, but it kind of puts a damper on people trying to run legitimate offenses.

I've spent the last week trying to develop some kind of Air Raid offense that I can use online, even when I'm facing the route mirroring(which is especially noticeable against the better rated defensive teams), and I've come to the conclusion that it's not possible. I've found one route that consistently defeats man. One. On top of that, that one route is so effective against man coverage that you could probably even label it as "cheese" for those of you who use that word.

Want to be extremely good online? Grab someone like Virginia Tech or Texas, sit in Dime Cover 2 Man with bump and run coverage and sit back and let the CPU do everything. Rest assured, if you lose, it wont be because you got passed on.

[jaymo76]

As I am going through coaching carousel I can't help but appreciate how ALL coaches who are TOP candidates have a D+ for prestige even if they are listed as a A. There are some really annoying bugs in CC this year.

[souljahbill]

This may sound like whiny-baby complaining but what's up with the injuries? I'm playing Play Now trophy rivalry games until the August patch comes out (so I can officially start my dynasty) and EVERY game, either the starting RB or QB gets hurt. EVERY game. Sometimes both and occasionally, one of the starting WRs gets hurt too.

[beartide06]

This may sound like whiny-baby complaining but what's up with the injuries? I'm playing Play Now trophy rivalry games until the August patch comes out (so I can officially start my dynasty) and EVERY game, either the starting RB or QB gets hurt. EVERY game. Sometimes both and occasionally, one of the starting WRs gets hurt too.
No, it's not whiny baby complaining at all. I've experienced the same issue, but in dynasty. My starting RB, and I kid you not, got hurt EVERY game of the season, more than once per game. His injury rating was at about 82 I believe. I'm sorry, but even with an injury rating like that, there is no way a player would get hurt that much unless his bones were made out of glass.

[AustinWolv]

I lost my 2nd-string RB for the entire season in Game1 of the current dynasty season, followed by losing my starter about 3-4 games in for the rest of the season. He *might* be back for the conf championship game. My starting QB has been hurt at least once every game, pretty often he sits out a quarter. He was knocked out for the last 3 quarters in the game. Injuries certainly seem more frequent than in the past.

[souljahbill]

I lost my 2nd-string RB for the entire season in Game1 of the current dynasty season, followed by losing my starter about 3-4 games in for the rest of the season. He *might* be back for the conf championship game. My starting QB has been hurt at least once every game, pretty often he sits out a quarter. He was knocked out for the last 3 quarters in the game. Injuries certainly seem more frequent than in the past.

They seem more frequent to just the offensive skill positions. Still don't see injuries to o-linemen and very rarely to defensive players.

[AustinWolv]

souljah, yeah, I agree with that. Hell, can't take too many injuries as we only get 70 players on a roster. ;)

[Rudy]

They seem more frequent to just the offensive skill positions. Still don't see injuries to o-linemen and very rarely to defensive players.

In my short time with the game I noticed my starting QB (especially if using Michigan or Oregon) and my starting RB got hurt a lot as well but they were mostly minor injuries that they would come back. Can only speak about play now games. I thought the injuries were over done last year, especially for the QB. It is still very disappointing that Madden will have an injury slider for 3 years now and NCAA still refuses to add it (along with fumbles and fatigue). EA needs to take a deeper look at sliders, how they work and adding new ones imo.

[jaymo76]

In my short time with the game I noticed my starting QB (especially if using Michigan or Oregon) and my starting RB got hurt a lot as well but they were mostly minor injuries that they would come back. Can only speak about play now games. I thought the injuries were over done last year, especially for the QB. It is still very disappointing that Madden will have an injury slider for 3 years now and NCAA still refuses to add it (along with fumbles and fatigue). EA needs to take a deeper look at sliders, how they work and adding new ones imo.

Yup, I personally like a lot of injuries as it creates more of a challenge. However, with Madden having SLIDERS for INJURIES, FUMBLES, etc and NCAA still not having them is just dumb. I cannot think of any reason for the omission of these areas for sliders.

[JeffHCross]

(knock on wood)

I still have yet to experience a freeze within the game, but I have now had at least four freezes on the initial "Press Start" menu, as it is transitioning to "Please Wait". And it's always at the exact same point too, just as the camera is starting to climb vertically. It's a full system freeze too -- have to shut off the PS3 via the power button.

[jaymo76]

(knock on wood)

I still have yet to experience a freeze within the game, but I have now had at least four freezes on the initial "Press Start" menu, as it is transitioning to "Please Wait". And it's always at the exact same point too, just as the camera is starting to climb vertically. It's a full system freeze too -- have to shut off the PS3 via the power button.

The FIRST time I put in the game it froze... at first I thought I had a bad disk so I took it out and cleaned it. I have had two freezes since then. For me it's not bad at all. But some people have really been impacted by the freeze issue.

[I OU a Beatn]

I haven't had a single freeze period. Suckers. :P

Does anyone know if they made changes to how user catches were triggered. I remember reading that once you took control of the receiver, the whole "receiver has to be looking" doesn't apply, but having messed around in practice mode a good bit, I would have to disagree with that. There are several instances where I am able to trigger user catch animations, but also some where I'm holding the buttons and the wide receiver makes absolutely no attempt to catch the ball. He literally wont even put his hands up.

[jaymo76]

Okay, now I am a little concerned. To end season 2 my game froze in the Beef O'Brady Bowl. Now to start season three my first gameright at the end just before you see the final score box... boom... the game freezes. That is now two straight games where it has frozen and at the exact same spot... once the game is over. I can live with the other stuff but this is a game killer. I will try again tomorrow and I guess we will see how it goes.

[xMrHitStickx904]

It's beyond me as to why the NCAA Dev team cannot properly emulate crowd noise, & the overall atmosphere of a college football game. They did it very well in 04 and it was consistently good for the most part on the rest of the PS2 titles. You know me, it's gameplay over everything, but I can't even listen to the audio while I'm playing, rather just have my Dre beats on instead. I'm spending the day watching College games from last season, starting with Michigan v. Notre Dame & all I want to experience aesthetically & audio wise is the college atmosphere that sets it apart. From not being able to have a (insert your color)-out for the crowds, certain generic animations besides clapping, the noise of their cheering/booing, additional band songs that are exclusive to certain schools that play on certain downs etc., It's wild that this present dev team cannot bring that to life in the game. I understand that the stadium sounds feature is supposed to help with that, but it's not like I play with just one team, and I'm not going to download, then upload all of the sounds for every FBS school, and my opponent can't even hear them. Makes zero sense to me.

[jaymo76]

It's beyond me as to why the NCAA Dev team cannot properly emulate crowd noise, & the overall atmosphere of a college football game. They did it very well in 04 and it was consistently good for the most part on the rest of the PS2 titles. You know me, it's gameplay over everything, but I can't even listen to the audio while I'm playing, rather just have my Dre beats on instead. I'm spending the day watching College games from last season, starting with Michigan v. Notre Dame & all I want to experience aesthetically & audio wise is the college atmosphere that sets it apart. From not being able to have a (insert your color)-out for the crowds, certain generic animations besides clapping, the noise of their cheering/booing, additional band songs that are exclusive to certain schools that play on certain downs etc., It's wild that this present dev team cannot bring that to life in the game. I understand that the stadium sounds feature is supposed to help with that, but it's not like I play with just one team, and I'm not going to download, then upload all of the sounds for every FBS school, and my opponent can't even hear them. Makes zero sense to me.

Honestly, I just want them to bring back home field advantage from 06. The screen shaking and the fans going insane was absolutely awesome. It added so much to that game.

[JeffHCross]

I can understand why the screen doesn't shake still, but the reduced noise makes no sense.

[beartide06]

I can understand why the screen doesn't shake still, but the reduced noise makes no sense.

Well, they could possibly add the screen shake to the game, but just make it an option to turn it off. I played NCAA football 11 for the PS2 the other day, and they had options to turn on/off almost anything in the game. From camera shake, to LOS lines, first down lines, or BOTH, assistance with discipline and recruiting, and many, many more.

And I thought the sound was supposed to be VASTLY improved this year? To me, it doesn't sound as good as it was hyped.

[souljahbill]

So I'm dumping my pistol offense for a shotgun offense. The blocking out of the pistol just isn't as good as the blocking out of shotgun. My new shotgun playbook has every 2 back set, every set where the RB is slightly behind the QB, and a bunch of wing sets. It could use some refining but overall, I'm very happy with the change. Hopefully next year, pulling guards and fullbacks won't be so derpy-derp and will block somebody.

[skipwondah33]

This may sound like whiny-baby complaining but what's up with the injuries? I'm playing Play Now trophy rivalry games until the August patch comes out (so I can officially start my dynasty) and EVERY game, either the starting RB or QB gets hurt. EVERY game. Sometimes both and occasionally, one of the starting WRs gets hurt too.

My QB in the SBCOL dynasty has been hurt 2-3 times if not more every game I've played so far

[SmoothPancakes]

As I am going through coaching carousel I can't help but appreciate how ALL coaches who are TOP candidates have a D+ for prestige even if they are listed as a A. There are some really annoying bugs in CC this year.


This may sound like whiny-baby complaining but what's up with the injuries? I'm playing Play Now trophy rivalry games until the August patch comes out (so I can officially start my dynasty) and EVERY game, either the starting RB or QB gets hurt. EVERY game. Sometimes both and occasionally, one of the starting WRs gets hurt too.


No, it's not whiny baby complaining at all. I've experienced the same issue, but in dynasty. My starting RB, and I kid you not, got hurt EVERY game of the season, more than once per game. His injury rating was at about 82 I believe. I'm sorry, but even with an injury rating like that, there is no way a player would get hurt that much unless his bones were made out of glass.


I lost my 2nd-string RB for the entire season in Game1 of the current dynasty season, followed by losing my starter about 3-4 games in for the rest of the season. He *might* be back for the conf championship game. My starting QB has been hurt at least once every game, pretty often he sits out a quarter. He was knocked out for the last 3 quarters in the game. Injuries certainly seem more frequent than in the past.


In my short time with the game I noticed my starting QB (especially if using Michigan or Oregon) and my starting RB got hurt a lot as well but they were mostly minor injuries that they would come back. Can only speak about play now games. I thought the injuries were over done last year, especially for the QB. It is still very disappointing that Madden will have an injury slider for 3 years now and NCAA still refuses to add it (along with fumbles and fatigue). EA needs to take a deeper look at sliders, how they work and adding new ones imo.


(knock on wood)

I still have yet to experience a freeze within the game, but I have now had at least four freezes on the initial "Press Start" menu, as it is transitioning to "Please Wait". And it's always at the exact same point too, just as the camera is starting to climb vertically. It's a full system freeze too -- have to shut off the PS3 via the power button.


Okay, now I am a little concerned. To end season 2 my game froze in the Beef O'Brady Bowl. Now to start season three my first gameright at the end just before you see the final score box... boom... the game freezes. That is now two straight games where it has frozen and at the exact same spot... once the game is over. I can live with the other stuff but this is a game killer. I will try again tomorrow and I guess we will see how it goes.


My QB in the SBCOL dynasty has been hurt 2-3 times if not more every game I've played so far

Great, looks like it's official. No dynasty for me until at least the late-August patch that hopefully fixes half of this. :( :fp:

[souljahbill]

Great, looks like it's official. No dynasty for me until at least the late-August patch that hopefully fixes half of this. :( :fp:

That's when I'm starting mine. To occupy my time in the mean-time, I created a second profile called Trophies and have been playing trophied rivalry games. I also created a throwaway dynasty and simmed up to the conference championship games. I played and won those games to get those conference trophies and now playing through all the bowl games to win those bowl trophies as well. Any team that didn't have a conference championship game in year 1 will have one in year 2 so I can get those conference trophies for my trophy case too.

[skipwondah33]

Glad I don't put all that much time into this game or I'd be frustrated I see lol

[AustinWolv]

Great, looks like it's official. No dynasty for me until at least the late-August patch that hopefully fixes half of this.
Should I mention that my #1 WR went down with a broken collarbone in the national title game and was lost for the rest of the season? ;)
Don't worry, I still won. :D

[JeffHCross]

Smooth, FWIW, besides the occasional freeze on the title screen I've had no issues. Haven't seen injuries crop up, at least for my team.

(time to desperately search for some wood to knock on)

[ram29jackson]

Florida State- Shotgun-tight-wide receiver screen...doesnt work

[souljahbill]

I woke up early today and since I had nothing to do, I fired up the PS3. Starting playing an exhibition game. Since I used real-time weather, the game started off as a night game (the sun hadn't come up yet) and ended as a day game. I thought that was cool.

[AustinWolv]

Damnit, 2nd dynasty season and my starting HB gets injured in the first game and is out for 3 weeks. Guy is a 99 overall too.

[BCEagles]

Damnit, 2nd dynasty season and my starting HB gets injured in the first game and is out for 3 weeks. Guy is a 99 overall too.
lol thats rough. Same thing happened to me with ryan aplin on arkansas state

[jaymo76]

I woke up early today and since I had nothing to do, I fired up the PS3. Starting playing an exhibition game. Since I used real-time weather, the game started off as a night game (the sun hadn't come up yet) and ended as a day game. I thought that was cool.

On a sidenote I must say that the passage of time during a game this year is absolutely wonderful. The progression of time and the way the dark/shadows come in is very well done.

[souljahbill]

On a sidenote I must say that the passage of time during a game this year is absolutely wonderful. The progression of time and the way the dark/shadows come in is very well done.

Start a game and super-sim it. You can watch the shadows move.

[Body15]

I was playin an online game; and it was a close game 17-14 I was in the lead. He couldn't stop my running game and offered a friendly quit? I was like no I'm in the lead and it's a good game. Then he threw a pic and quit with 3:00 minutes left in the 2nd QTR.

[souljahbill]

I was playin an online game; and it was a close game 17-14 I was in the lead. He couldn't stop my running game and offered a friendly quit? I was like no I'm in the lead and it's a good game. Then he threw a pic and quit with 3:00 minutes left in the 2nd QTR.

I don't understand this mentality. The guy submitted. You won. Let him go in peace

[PeteyKirch]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Lst8MbLZ8k

Brad Nessler got confused and thought the game at Rutgers, was in Denver, Colorado.

[JBHuskers]

He was on the bourbon for that game :nod:

[ram29jackson]

all aspects of the game take forever to load compared to last year..waiting for disc to load..waiting for game to load

[jaymo76]

I am now four seasons in as a coordinator for Rice and regardless of all the issues this game has (primarily blocking and zone D) it it hands down the best NCAA FOOTBALL title on PS3 and in truth gives my personal fave (6 on ps2) a good run for its money. I have played the heck out of this game for the last couple weeks and I am totally enjoying myself. My advice... overlook the flaws of this game and just appreciate for what it is... entertainment. I have got my money's worth and more. Now if we can just get those FCS teams back for 14...

[AustinWolv]

jaymo, :+1:

Although I will say that the ghosts playing the game during the post-game "play of the day" sequence is lame. Just a football floating around the field with no players visible....

[souljahbill]

RTG Week 2

My player's stats (vs. FCS SE)
12-16, 286 yds, 12 carries, 212 yds, 9 Total TDs

Stats for the national player of the week (vs. FCS E)
11-12, 246 yds, 6 TDs

Do I have the right to say I was robbed?

[Kingpin32]

I just saw something horrendous. Facebook had an ad for the site that sells rosters smh.

[souljahbill]

I just saw something horrendous. Facebook had an ad for the site that sells rosters smh.

They're opening themselves up to litigation.

[JeffHCross]

They're opening themselves up to litigation.If that was true, those sites would have been sued years ago. I agree that they should be, but it's also obvious that they've somehow avoided it.

[xMrHitStickx904]

I've been playing more dynasty as of late, and I'm really enjoying it at the moment. I think having Rece Davis and the ESPN ticker at the bottom really helps deepen the mode. However, I miss the stat overlays like we used to have on PS2. I fondly remember as far back as NCAA 03 having dynasty stat over lays during the play, and during certain cutscenes. For example; during conference play, when the teams took the field, the game used to show all of the standings in the conference. In addition, it showed the overall record, conference record, and it would highlight the two teams playing as well. It also showed the coaching record of both teams during the initial changes of possession. A great way the NCAA Dev team could expand on that is to bring those stat overlays back, and gear the in-game commentary and studio updates more toward the games in which the outcomes affect the game you're playing. I think it should show more personalized updates on the conference games as well. Since it's year one, I'm not disappointed. I just think there is A LOT of potential with dynasty.

[ram29jackson]

why is QB contain command foe defensive line so messed up ?

you make the the command you can see it there..but if you do it again, it gets rid of the command and nullifies the command and you cant get it back before snap. Why is it so sensitive?

...and besides that you have a short window to flip your defensive play if you want to. The game just decides that you are stuck there and cant do crap about it.

and can you really user swat or catch anything now?

[jaymo76]

I've been playing more dynasty as of late, and I'm really enjoying it at the moment. I think having Rece Davis and the ESPN ticker at the bottom really helps deepen the mode. However, I miss the stat overlays like we used to have on PS2. I fondly remember as far back as NCAA 03 having dynasty stat over lays during the play, and during certain cutscenes. For example; during conference play, when the teams took the field, the game used to show all of the standings in the conference. In addition, it showed the overall record, conference record, and it would highlight the two teams playing as well. It also showed the coaching record of both teams during the initial changes of possession. A great way the NCAA Dev team could expand on that is to bring those stat overlays back, and gear the in-game commentary and studio updates more toward the games in which the outcomes affect the game you're playing. I think it should show more personalized updates on the conference games as well. Since it's year one, I'm not disappointed. I just think there is A LOT of potential with dynasty.

I agree 100% about the stat overlays. They would add so much to the game. Personally I used to love seeing the passing yards for each area of the field.

[jaymo76]

Tonight I had my first post patch freeze. It froze after the last play of the game... just like it used to do before the patch. I guess the freezing issue isn't totally fixed.

[JeffHCross]

I'm still running into my on-load freeze where it freezes during the initial load screen (immediately after Press Start Button). So no, not totally fixed.

[beartide06]

Had a freeze occur yesterday while going into the 4th quarter. Post-patch, obviously.

[gschwendt]

I think the freeze fixes were primarily for when you're in the dynasty menus... recruiting, etc. I'm not certain of that but I know that was an issue pre-patch and haven't seen as many (if any) complaints about it post-patch.

[jaymo76]

I think the freeze fixes were primarily for when you're in the dynasty menus... recruiting, etc. I'm not certain of that but I know that was an issue pre-patch and haven't seen as many (if any) complaints about it post-patch.

So are they any plans to address the other freezing issues with this game? I see at OS that the freeze thread is absolutely massive.

[Rudy]

I was just reading someone commenting on the shake blitz and I thought - Why doesn't EA just start adding fatigue to the LBs if they shift more than twice? Just delay your snap count and watch your opponent's LBs get so tired from shifting that they start leaving the game.

[PeteyKirch]

I was just reading someone commenting on the shake blitz and I thought - Why doesn't EA just start adding fatigue to the LBs if they shift more than twice? Just delay your snap count and watch your opponent's LBs get so tired from shifting that they start leaving the game.

Would be interesting if fatigue was worked into pre-snap movement. Would defer people from running around in circles before the snap trying to throw off the AI.

[ram29jackson]

I was just reading someone commenting on the shake blitz and I thought - Why doesn't EA just start adding fatigue to the LBs if they shift more than twice? Just delay your snap count and watch your opponent's LBs get so tired from shifting that they start leaving the game.

or just take it out-period- since its such AI abuse to begin with

[Rudy]

or just take it out-period- since its such AI abuse to begin with

That's a terrible decision. If the offense changes formation or comes out unbalanced in a strong set you should be shifting your LBs or DL. In real football you will often see the strong side and weakside LB swap spots depending on how the formation lines up. The front 7 just doesn't line up the same way no matter what formation the offense is in. That's not a solution as they do it all the time in real life.

[jaymo76]

So I finished my 5th season as OC and last night I won the C-USA and the Liberty Bowl. While I was playing the C-USA title game my wife who was watching me asked why I wasn't more excited for such an important game. Then it hit me... I didn't really care whether I won or lost the game. Maybe it's because I have been playing this game non-stop all summer but honestly, I was indifferent to the game at hand. I had the same feeling during the liberty bowl. Now to be fair my interest peaked a little during CC when I finally took on a HC contract with BYU but really my interest in this game seems to have dropped.

I am a huge supporter of this series and NCAA 13 in particular. I have been a huge fan of this game and have totally overlooked a lot of the issues people have because I find the game a lot of fun. However, last night I seemed to have an epiphany that I was bored. Is it just me? Have I played the game too much this summer and now I need a break? Does it have something to do with how much cleaner/brighter/fancier the Madden 13 demo looks/feels? Is it the 10+ years of the same commentary/glitches/issues? I can't figure out why I had such a change of heart. Who knows, maybe (probably) tonight I will be back on board with NCAA, but I am wondering, am I the only one feeling like this 1.5 months after release??? How has people's interest in the game help up???

[jolson88]

I'm definitely in the same boat. My interest has been waning. I've been switching from dynasty to RTG to Heisman to get different "tastes" and keep me around. But I don't think it will last long for me. Guild Wars 2 (and maybe Madden too) will be the game that pulls me away likely...

[JeffHCross]

Jaymo, you're not the only one. I'm not getting nearly involved in the game-to-game action as I used to. But, at the same time, I'm not feeling that way about any games now. Or, if I do, it's pretty damn rare. inFamous was satisfying to finish, but a lot of the missions were "just get it over with". Mass Effect 2 was the same way -- loved the story, but the actual gameplay didn't pull me in the way it's supposed to.

I remember back on NCAA 2004, I had to stop playing a dynasty as Ohio State because I kept losing to Iowa, quitting, and then losing again. It was unacceptable for me to lose to Iowa; I wouldn't let it happen. Part of that is because I was a Buckeye student at the time and a member of the student section. We had beaten Iowa that year, so I wouldn't let us lose.

The other part is that I was just more immature then too :D When I was younger, I used to play repeated attempts of the same demo, over and over again, just to play the game. The NCAA titles in particular, from all the studios. Last night I didn't even get past halftime of Madden before I was done with it. I just don't care.

Now, all that being said ... I'm about to spend the next two or three hours messing around inside my OD ... because the OD itself has me hooked, even though the games really don't.

[skipwondah33]

So I finished my 5th season as OC and last night I won the C-USA and the Liberty Bowl. While I was playing the C-USA title game my wife who was watching me asked why I wasn't more excited for such an important game. Then it hit me... I didn't really care whether I won or lost the game. Maybe it's because I have been playing this game non-stop all summer but honestly, I was indifferent to the game at hand. I had the same feeling during the liberty bowl. Now to be fair my interest peaked a little during CC when I finally took on a HC contract with BYU but really my interest in this game seems to have dropped.

I am a huge supporter of this series and NCAA 13 in particular. I have been a huge fan of this game and have totally overlooked a lot of the issues people have because I find the game a lot of fun. However, last night I seemed to have an epiphany that I was bored. Is it just me? Have I played the game too much this summer and now I need a break? Does it have something to do with how much cleaner/brighter/fancier the Madden 13 demo looks/feels? Is it the 10+ years of the same commentary/glitches/issues? I can't figure out why I had such a change of heart. Who knows, maybe (probably) tonight I will be back on board with NCAA, but I am wondering, am I the only one feeling like this 1.5 months after release??? How has people's interest in the game help up???

Maybe all of that and playing the CPU just isn't fun. I can almost fall asleep playing the CPU that is how disinterested i am into playing a game against them. They do the same types of things and are just boring to play. I find myself just calling random plays and going through the motions.

Years back in the house we never played CPU, it was always against one another. Even when we in played dynasties a different teams, the other person would be the CPU team so we never had to play them. Then when online gaming started off we played other people around the country.

I never would get past Week 2-3 in any Dynasty or Franchise I played by myself in either Madden or NCAA.

So today I only play other Users in Madden and won't play CPU.

The CPU will never be able to give me the same experience. No matter how sliders are tweaked, the game designed, etc. People have to go out of their way just to get a reasonable experience. Use to be that you just set the difficulty (us anyway) to the hardest difficulty and just played the game...that was house rule.

Don't know but I enjoy the game so much more playing against other people and not the ones in the lobby looking for exploits.

[JeffHCross]

Skip brings up a good point. Back when I was playing the hell out of NCAA 2004, I'd never played another user outside of my college roomie (who would just call one play over and over) or a few guys down the hall. It was just me and the CPU (and sliders from AustinWolv :D). So I had Dynasty threads and backstories and all this extra work that I was doing. Now I have neither the time nor the interest to do all of that extra work. Plus with the OD, I don't really need to.

[skipwondah33]

Same for me back in college. All the guys played Madden and College football against one another in each others room. We would have a tournament every night it seemed. Even when I was much younger, we would have tournaments, Only way you could even play the computer was if you were the last one up after everyone else fell asleep at like 4 or you got up super early before people woke up. There was always someone who had "next".

Back then we might not have been as picky (atleast some of us) as to how the CPU played or their decision making. But the smarter, more informed and more aware of technology that is out there....and the fact that we are paying the amount of money for these games. Makes us a bit more pickier as to what is happening in the game.

I sure wasn't worried about how the CB's played the flats in Cover 2 playing Madden in the early and mid 90's. Now if I keep seeing the flats open on against a standard Cover 2 I'd be a little upset.

It passes the time as a good hobby. I've been gaming since I can remember playing Atari, always have enjoyed it so I will look to continue doing so lol

[jaymo76]

Skip brings up a good point. Back when I was playing the hell out of NCAA 2004, I'd never played another user outside of my college roomie (who would just call one play over and over) or a few guys down the hall. It was just me and the CPU (and sliders from AustinWolv :D). So I had Dynasty threads and backstories and all this extra work that I was doing. Now I have neither the time nor the interest to do all of that extra work. Plus with the OD, I don't really need to.

Wasn't that fun back in the day to do that kind of stuff. I still have my TECMO SUPERBOWL NOTES somewhere in the garage. Back them we didn't have the immersion so we made it ourselves. Good times...

[Rudy]

Now, all that being said ... I'm about to spend the next two or three hours messing around inside my OD ... because the OD itself has me hooked, even though the games really don't.

The tough thing is that when I play MLB the Show I play it strictly for the gameplay. I don't need anything else like scouting, recruiting or drafts to suck me in. I've played about 140 games in my SF season and it's all purely gameplay related for the most part. Stat tracking in baseball is also good but the game is that good against the cpu that I can have a lot of fun. I don't care about free agency, drafts or any off the field management stuff in a baseball game.

I've never been a head to head player. Maybe I need to give that a more honest effort because the cpu isn't good enough in EA football. I do recognize that this is the hardest sport to get right but I don't like using that excuse. The truth is the cpu AI has not improved in an EA football game in 10 years. They got really dumb this generation (horrible cpu QB AI) and have spent the last 7 years just trying to get back to the level of the PS2 intelligence. The reason I love playing the cpu is that I do love the franchise and dynasty options. Building programs is a big hook and sometimes a necessary one to keep us sucked in. I can play anytime I want with any difficulty or slider setting I like. About every two years I try to play a game online and the random guy I play against is a loser. Just reminds me to stick to offline.

[souljahbill]

Gah!!!!

Just lost a game because of the stupid "it's raining so receivers slip when they cut" animations. I threw 2 picks because the receiver slipped and the defense caught the pass. If EA is determined to keep this in the game, 1) turn down the amount of rain games in dynasty please and 2) make the defense slip also. I've only seen receivers slip. Never defenders.

[jaymo76]

Gah!!!!

Just lost a game because of the stupid "it's raining so receivers slip when they cut" animations. I threw 2 picks because the receiver slipped and the defense caught the pass. If EA is determined to keep this in the game, 1) turn down the amount of rain games in dynasty please and 2) make the defense slip also. I've only seen receivers slip. Never defenders.

:+1: I just don't gey why DB's have perfect footplanting while WR's don't. Oh well, I guess it fits perfect with not hearing audiles at home.

[JeffHCross]

Wasn't that fun back in the day to do that kind of stuff. I still have my TECMO SUPERBOWL NOTES somewhere in the garage. Back them we didn't have the immersion so we made it ourselves. Good times...Absolutely. On NCAA 2004, when I got upset with playing as Ohio State, I ended up doing a Create-A-School with Alabama, as the 1992 team that was in the game as a Historic Roster. Ended up breaking Oklahoma's winning streak, winning 3 consecutive titles, and then somehow losing two straight the next season. It was nuts!


The tough thing is that when I play MLB the Show I play it strictly for the gameplay. I don't need anything else like scouting, recruiting or drafts to suck me in. I've played about 140 games in my SF season and it's all purely gameplay related for the most part.To each his own. I can't play that many games in an MLB game (or NHL or NBA) because I want the turnover of the offseason and major trades and all the superfluous stuff. I'm just wired like that. There isn't any game that I play for "just gameplay" anymore (except maybe Pac-Man).

[baseballplyrmvp]

the more i play this game against the cpu, the more pissed off i get about the stupid no huddle delay and the forced cutscene shit. i want last year's pace to the game to return, where i could throw 50 passes in a 7 minute game as an OC. it may not have been very accurate regarding time, but the entertainment value was a lot higher for me than what '13 currently provides.

[jaymo76]

Since the patch I have had ZERO success running the HB screen. Unless the cpu full on blitzes everytime I run a HB screen the cpu drops into position and stuff me in the backfield.

[AustinWolv]

Since the patch I have had ZERO success running the HB screen. Unless the cpu full on blitzes everytime I run a HB screen the cpu drops into position and stuff me in the backfield.

I have had MUCH less success running it, but did take one for a 70y TD the other night. :)
Otherwise, the CPU has assigned man coverage MUCH more often to the HB.

[Rudy]

This is written about the run blocking engine on Madden but equally applies to NCAA. Fantastic read that I posted in the Madden thread but should be read by everyone imo. Written by a former Backbreaker dev.

http://www.operationsports.com/features/1546/breaking-down-madden-the-run-game/

[jaymo76]

I just watched the podcast and I agree with a lot of what was said. For me it's not that NCAA isn't really good, it's just that it isn't as good as it used to be. I didn't realise this until last week but frankly, I think I am bored of playing NCAA. Don't get me wrong, I love the game updates and the ticker but outside of that and the removal of leaping LB's I have played the same game since my first next gen title, NCAA 08. Not doing anything with CC this year was a huge let down. Still not having real FCS teams is a huge let down, no Heisman ceremony in the year of the heisman challenge is a huge let down, no Gameday type weekly wrap-up show is a huge let down. This is my fave series of all time but it needs to do something to bring my excitement level back to where it used to be ala 06 (and please don't say CCM... too much has been removed).

[baseballplyrmvp]

I just watched the podcast and I agree with a lot of what was said. For me it's not that NCAA isn't really good, it's just that it isn't as good as it used to be. I didn't realise this until last week but frankly, I think I am bored of playing NCAA. Don't get me wrong, I love the game updates and the ticker but outside of that and the removal of leaping LB's I have played the same game since my first next gen title, NCAA 08. Not doing anything with CC this year was a huge let down. Still not having real FCS teams is a huge let down, no Heisman ceremony in the year of the heisman challenge is a huge let down, no Gameday type weekly wrap-up show is a huge let down. This is my fave series of all time but it needs to do something to bring my excitement level back to where it used to be ala 06 (and please don't say CCM... too much has been removed).i agree, but different things are a let down to me. it just seems that they focus on some of the wrong things year after year. i wish that the community had a larger say in what is done every year; definitely not a final end-all decision, but much like that survey that was released a couple of years ago, it'd be nice if we could steer the decision making process a little more.

[JeffHCross]

This is written about the run blocking engine on Madden but equally applies to NCAA. Fantastic read that I posted in the Madden thread but should be read by everyone imo. Written by a former Backbreaker dev.Completely agree with everything he wrote. Much of his statements, at least about the technology of the branching animations and the like, could equally apply to the passing game.

[JeffHCross]

(knock on wood)

I still have yet to experience a freeze within the game, but I have now had at least four freezes on the initial "Press Start" menu, as it is transitioning to "Please Wait". And it's always at the exact same point too, just as the camera is starting to climb vertically. It's a full system freeze too -- have to shut off the PS3 via the power button.Had this twice again this morning. Seems to happen more often when I'm in a rush :D

I now tense up every time I see "Tradition" start to turn, because that's where it freezes :smh:

[baseballplyrmvp]

is anyone noticing any in-season progression occuring?

[JeffHCross]

It's subtle, but I've noticed some, MVP. I don't recall, off-hand, if it still shows (+2) next to ratings that have progressed -- in fact, I don't think it does -- but I noticed as we got to the end of Year 1 in Powerhouse that some of my players had higher OVRs than we had started the season with.

[baseballplyrmvp]

It's subtle, but I've noticed some, MVP. I don't recall, off-hand, if it still shows (+2) next to ratings that have progressed -- in fact, I don't think it does -- but I noticed as we got to the end of Year 1 in Powerhouse that some of my players had higher OVRs than we had started the season with.

thats the only reason that i asked, because i just looked at my arizona state team for the fun of it, and didnt notice a single rating showed the "+1", indicating that something had improved. if its still there, they probably removed the visual....which i'm not really in favor of.

[JeffHCross]

I actually like that the visual is gone ... it was too cluttered with the visual, IMO. While I'd like it at year's end or something, somewhere where I know "Oh, he progressed X", I don't think I need it week to week.

[PeteyKirch]

Maybe it's just me, but with the NCAA series it seems like the little fixes they can easily do, but don't would add so much more immersion to the experience.

They've had the ESPN license for how long, and it took to this installment for us to get a real ESPN ticker on the bottom during dynasty?

Why can't they just take the ESPN stat templates and use them for stat updates and what not?

Someone on OS posted a breakdown of stat overlays that pop up within 3 minutes of a College Football game and it was probably something like you'd see in an entire seasons worth of play in NCAA13.

What burned me was watching the Making of NCAA13 to see them spend time on some poor designer gloating about the one overlay BROUGHT TO YOU BY DOVE SOAP FOR MEN...it really makes me question how many of these people truly watching College ball, versus EA shilling itself for sponsors like Dove, Snickers, Coke-Zero, etc.

Ben said they overhauled stadium noises, but it's all or nothing at times. It can go from an off the wall roar, to a pin drop in seconds. I hate how there is absolutely no noise when my offense is on the field at home. There should be some noise from the opposing fans in attendance.

The animations are another killer at times. The comical Mario running in place, the lack of vital running animations, the fact every player runs the same despite ratings, weight, and height. That a 6'4 player can cover the same amount of ground as a 5'7 player in the same time.

Why is it that EA has yet to find a way to incorporate in game saves? NBA2k, MLB2k, and MLB the Show have all had this feature for the last few installments.

[JeffHCross]

Maybe it's just me, but with the NCAA series it seems like the little fixes they can easily do, but don't would add so much more immersion to the experience.Completely agree. The little things go a long way.

They've had the ESPN license for how long, and it took to this installment for us to get a real ESPN ticker on the bottom during dynasty?Wouldn't have done much good. In previous versions, the CPU games weren't simulated ahead of time. There was nothing to "tick".

Why can't they just take the ESPN stat templates and use them for stat updates and what not?What do you mean ... stat templates? The graphics, or something more?

[PeteyKirch]

Completely agree. The little things go a long way.
Wouldn't have done much good. In previous versions, the CPU games weren't simulated ahead of time. There was nothing to "tick".
What do you mean ... stat templates? The graphics, or something more?

http://i46.tinypic.com/r29d2h.png

Something like that. I'm a stat junkie. I love to run a play, and see a little blurb about my RBs carries/yards/ypc etc, especially as the game goes on.

I want dynamic stat overlays. Especially for Dynasty play. I want to see my Season 3rd Down %, I want to see Turnovers to Date, etc.

The other things, find a fix for the sidelines. Especially if you're going to show those sideline cutscenes with 10 real players, and then 3 cardboard cut outs mixed in.

How many years have the roster editors been clamoring for duplicate numbers? EA says they can do that for the disc, but there is no way for the user? How hard would it be to code something that allows to have two duplicates, one for O, one for D. If you tried to move one of those players to the different side of the ball, it would automatically go to the next available jersey number?

They still haven't figured out how to do uniform degradation correctly, that's a shame. The team in white is spotless, and the team in dark uniforms looks like they tried to wrestle a pig in mud.

They need more crowd specific cheers, or hell do the cheer creator that was in College Hoops.

[JeffHCross]

Something like that. I'm a stat junkie. I love to run a play, and see a little blurb about my RBs carries/yards/ypc etc, especially as the game goes on.

I want dynamic stat overlays. Especially for Dynasty play. I want to see my Season 3rd Down %, I want to see Turnovers to Date, etc.They have those. They just don't show enough. So, I'm not sure what you mean by "why can't they". Some of the statistics you cite may not be available within a game (thanks to system memory limits), but they do use ESPN-style stat overlays when, for example, records are broken.

[PeteyKirch]

They have those. They just don't show enough. So, I'm not sure what you mean by "why can't they". Some of the statistics you cite may not be available within a game (thanks to system memory limits), but they do use ESPN-style stat overlays when, for example, records are broken.

Wouldn't know, haven't played dynasty enough since I'm still waiting for their store to actually open, so I can have the correct uniforms for Rutgers.

The whole Why Can't They, is just wondering why is EA lazy? They have the rights to use the ESPN broadcast style, but hardly use it to its full potential. The only times I see stat overlays are during The Gametrack cutscenes, and maybe 1-2 times with my HB and his stats.

I'd love to see a breakdown of the CPU passing attack, they used to have a graphic that would pop up showing the break down of short (L/M/R), intermediate (L/M/R) and deep (L/M/R) attempts, completions, yards, TDs.

I also remember there being stat overlays for rushing left/middle/right as well.

Or maybe this is all from NFL2k5? I can't remember.

I would say about the year to date statistics, about how they are available in MLB the Show, but that's on BluRay and has much more space to hold such things like that.

[JeffHCross]

why is EA lazy?They're not.

They have the rights to use the ESPN broadcast styleThey have the license. Doesn't mean they have the assets directly from ESPN. Doesn't mean the PS3 or 360 are capable of doing the things we want without adversely affecting gameplay. I don't know the actual reasons, and I do wish that it would change, but it's not as simple as snapping one's fingers.

Or maybe this is all from NFL2k5? I can't remember.That might be from 2k5. I don't recall ever seeing that in NCAA (though it may have been in Madden). Then again, I don't recall it from 2k either.

I would say about the year to date statistics, about how they are available in MLB the Show, but that's on BluRay and has much more space to hold such things like that.The Show also has the full force of Sony San Diego behind it, and is a first-party title. Both of those are drastically different from NCAA's situation. Madden is much more fair to compare to The Show.

[Rudy]

I would guess the Show has a smaller dev team than NCAA. NCAA sells a lot more copies and will sell more games solely on the PS3 than the Show does. I don't buy the memory limitations for stat demands when the game stores all those replays the whole game. I believe it's not an emphasis on this area. I think both NCAA and Madden need to work harder towards true TV style presentation and stats.

[PeteyKirch]

They're not.
They have the license. Doesn't mean they have the assets directly from ESPN. Doesn't mean the PS3 or 360 are capable of doing the things we want without adversely affecting gameplay. I don't know the actual reasons, and I do wish that it would change, but it's not as simple as snapping one's fingers.
That might be from 2k5. I don't recall ever seeing that in NCAA (though it may have been in Madden). Then again, I don't recall it from 2k either.
The Show also has the full force of Sony San Diego behind it, and is a first-party title. Both of those are drastically different from NCAA's situation. Madden is much more fair
to compare to The Show.

But EA is lazy....

Why is it that we haven't had features in this game, that we had in the last generation? Why do we have the same issues from installment to installment each year? I'd rather just have them come out, and say it's an issue with the engine, and it won't be fixed until the engine is overhauled. Now even if that was a lie, it'd just be nice to have EA give us a reason as to why things remain the way they do.

I think they just put their efforts in the wrong direction.

Like I said, the making of NCAA13 Show, it really showed me where they put their efforts. I don't want a silly one off Dove Men's Soap Stat Overlay, that doesn't give me immersion, you don't just see ONE STAT OVERLAY on Saturday, you see HUNDREDS. I wouldn't mind the Dove's Men overlay if they actually popped up with decent frequency.

Then again, reading the NCAA13 Facebook page when EA had the 2nd Patch drop, a lot of people were clamoring to get the Studio Updates removed because they slowed down the game, and they just wanted to play. I applaud EA for at least attempting that, maybe in the Next Gen we can get video to go along with Rece, but who knows.

It's just the things EA does to start makes the fans go gaga with excitement, Team Builder, CC, but then they remained untouched. The running joke with Team Builder you know it's updated when EA changes the color of background page. Then CC, I'll give them a pass on their first attempt, but Ben Haumiller lied straight faced to the fans about them fixing some of the known bugs, but they still exist from NCAA12 in 13. There are some small fixes in CC that could go a long way...the CPU logic is beyond awful, how about taking that out of the CPUs hands? Especially if you're the HC, why does the CPU get to decide who my OC/DC are? Why can't I select them? I never heard of a HC that isn't allowed to hire their own staff.

[souljahbill]

But EA is lazy....


It's one thing to say the game is bad and their going in the wrong direction and they need to take fan feedback more seriously and whatnot but calling the developers lazy will always be insulting. Laziness is not why things aren't the way we want them.

[PeteyKirch]

It's one thing to say the game is bad and their going in the wrong direction and they need to take fan feedback more seriously and whatnot but calling the developers lazy will always be insulting. Laziness is not why things aren't the way we want them.

But they are..... Explain how known problems never get fixed year to year? That's lazy to me.

[souljahbill]

But they are..... Explain how known problems never get fixed year to year? That's lazy to me.

It's only lazy if it's easily fixable, won't break another part of the game, and they choose not to do it. Unless it fits that criteria, it's unfair to call people who spend the night at the office to make a game for other people lazy.

[PeteyKirch]

It's only lazy if it's easily fixable, won't break another part of the game, and they choose not to do it. Unless it fits that criteria, it's unfair to call people who spend the night at the office to make a game for other people lazy.

I can look the other way for something's, but others nope. Especially awful CPU depth chart logic. How hard would it be to have play book specific depth charts. Something that minor would add a lot.

Like I said I'd rather have them lie to us and say something doesn't work due to the engine than stay mum on the subject.

[Rudy]

It's only lazy if it's easily fixable, won't break another part of the game, and they choose not to do it. Unless it fits that criteria, it's unfair to call people who spend the night at the office to make a game for other people SO THEY CAN MAKE A LOT OF MONEY FOR A BIG COMPANY lazy.

Well I think lazy works for that definition. Like the super long FG attempts on Heisman. That has to be a fairly easy fix that they just choose to ignore. Why? Probably because the bean counters say that only a small percentage of gamers play on Heisman so don't waste your time there. I see all kind of stupid decisions done at my workplace because a number counting process dictates we work on X,Y,Z when A and B may be bigger problems. But someone's bonus doesn't get padded if we work on what we should rather than what a lousy bean counting process says we should do. Often X,Y and Z are easy but useless fixes that pad numbers/bonuses while significant issues are left unaddressed. That's not necessarily lazy because people are still working but it's dishonest or at the very least wrong.

The same approach applies to EA in many areas. There are many legacy problems, some easy and some big. Petey is simply frustrated that EA has turned a blind eye to known problems for many years in a row now. Why exactly we don't know but I'm fed up with the excuses. I don't care if it's lazy or something else, I just refuse to buy the end product if I'm not happy. Something is wrong with the way EA decides what to work on imo.

[JeffHCross]

I would guess the Show has a smaller dev team than NCAA. NCAA sells a lot more copies and will sell more games solely on the PS3 than the Show does.I wouldn't. MLB is a flagship title for that studio. NCAA isn't. Perhaps if you include the gameplay guys that work both Madden and NCAA, then NCAA has more, but in terms of people solely focused on NCAA, I think NCAA is smaller. Wish stuff like that was readily available though.

I don't buy the memory limitations for stat demands when the game stores all those replays the whole game.:dunno: Was just a guess. I just know that it's not plug-and-play.

Now even if that was a lie, it'd just be nice to have EA give us a reason as to why things remain the way they do.

I think they just put their efforts in the wrong direction.Lack of communication and efforts in a different direction than we'd like. I can agree with both of those. Big time.


maybe in the Next Gen we can get video to go along with Rece, but who knows.I would have agreed with you before this release. But given that I've seen more people bashing the Studio Updates than enjoying them, I don't see them changing going forward. I hope otherwise though (plus the option to skip them if you want).

why does the CPU get to decide who my OC/DC are? Why can't I select them? I never heard of a HC that isn't allowed to hire their own staff.Okay, yes, it doesn't fit reality. But you make it sound like it's a simple choice between "CPU Control" and "Human Control". There's a lot involved with giving you that "choice". Maybe not if you're the 6-star school and you get to pick between established coaches with great histories at OC/DC. But when you get down at the 1-star level, now you're picking between newly generated coaches. "Picking" being the key-word. That requires a lot of additional back-end stuff.

But they are..... Explain how known problems never get fixed year to year? That's lazy to me.Easy: Cost vs Effect. Risk vs Reward. Prioritization. There are tons of "legacy" issues in the products that I work on. The ones that are extremely important and could cause mission critical issues obviously get fixed immediately. The ones that are just a nuisance? They might get fixed. Eventually. We have to justify time spent on issues, same as any other software company. My team is fortunate in that we have direct control over what we choose to have fixed (though we're not the ones coding the fixes, which sometimes means we don't get the fix we asked for and have to pull it out). Not every software team has that control. Sometimes it's decided for them, way up higher in the pecking order. Especially when you have to take a product to market and compete against other companies.

We're also fortunate in that we have relatively flexible deadlines. Makes a big difference.

Well I think lazy works for that definition.:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

You've got to be kidding me Rudy. My employer makes a ton of money. Our CEO make more money in a single year than I'll see in my lifetime. A decent amount of profit (relative to, say, my salary) comes straight from the contract I work on. Do you think my program doesn't have to jump through a ton of hoops, just to hire one additional college graduate? Or answer to the higher-ups if we want to try something risky that will cost profit, but could make us more money in the long run? Do you think we see any benefit (besides continued employment) from that profit? Not a chance. Apples and oranges.

That's not necessarily lazy because people are still working but it's dishonest or at the very least wrong.And sometimes completely beyond the control of the people that actually do the work (and are being called lazy).

Something is wrong with the way EA decides what to work on imo.Don't disagree there.

[Rudy]

You've got to be kidding me Rudy. My employer makes a ton of money. Our CEO make more money in a single year than I'll see in my lifetime. A decent amount of profit (relative to, say, my salary) comes straight from the contract I work on. Do you think my program doesn't have to jump through a ton of hoops, just to hire one additional college graduate? Or answer to the higher-ups if we want to try something risky that will cost profit, but could make us more money in the long run? Do you think we see any benefit (besides continued employment) from that profit? Not a chance. Apples and oranges.

And sometimes completely beyond the control of the people that actually do the work (and are being called lazy).
Don't disagree there.

1) I just added that bold part in myself because I felt soulja's original comment implied that we should be grateful that someone makes a football video game for us rather than realize they are making it for a profit. There is a motive here. Same goes for TV shows and movies. While we want to be entertained and informed the primary goal of these things is to make someone money. It's a two way street.

2) I do agree that it's tough to call guys lazy when they might want to fix something but are told to work on something else. But people want to blame someone when they are mad and frustrated even if it's the wrong guy. That's why I don't think people on the site should get so upset when people throw out the lazy word. It's often out of frustration and aimed at the process rather than a specific individual.

[souljahbill]

1) I just added that bold part in myself because I felt soulja's original comment implied that we should be grateful that someone makes a football video game for us rather than realize they are making it for a profit. There is a motive here. Same goes for TV shows and movies. While we want to be entertained and informed the primary goal of these things is to make someone money. It's a two way street.
No, I wasn't saying we should bend over and take it and be grateful that EA is making this product for us out of the goodness of their own hearts. What I was saying was that people, real live flesh and blood who just happen to work a EA, are missing quality times with their wives/husbands/children/friends/etc. to work LOOONG hours, sometimes even sleeping at work, to put out the best product they can for us, the consumer, and I find calling them lazy is an insult to the time real people put into their work. I have ZERO issues with complaining about the game and raising a stink but I do have a problem calling people lazy as if the developers don't want to put out a quality product and choose to ignore stuff for no other reason then they just don't feel like it.

[JeffHCross]

That's why I don't think people on the site should get so upset when people throw out the lazy word. It's often out of frustration and aimed at the process rather than a specific individual.To make a pun ... calling them "lazy" is ... well, the lazy way out.

I agree that people have every right to be frustrated at the process. I've been there myself, big time. But I won't call them lazy, and I'd prefer others didn't either.

Don't misunderstand, I'm not calling for people to temper down their criticism or anything like that. If you're pissed off, be pissed off. But you and Petey have both said that you're frustrated by what they choose to fix, what direction they go, what's communicated versus what's not, etc, etc, etc. I agree with all of those. Fully agree. And none -- none -- of those can be chalked up as "lazy".

[PeteyKirch]

To make a pun ... calling them "lazy" is ... well, the lazy way out.

I agree that people have every right to be frustrated at the process. I've been there myself, big time. But I won't call them lazy, and I'd prefer others didn't either.

Don't misunderstand, I'm not calling for people to temper down their criticism or anything like that. If you're pissed off, be pissed off. But you and Petey have both said that you're frustrated by what they choose to fix, what direction they go, what's communicated versus what's not, etc, etc, etc. I agree with all of those. Fully agree. And none -- none -- of those can be chalked up as "lazy".

I think refusing to notice problems is being lazy.

It's not like the community, i.e Game Changers haven't brought these issues to EA. At least come out and say if it was attempted to be fixed, it would completely break the game, or just feed us lies telling us that it's an engine issue, and won't be fixed until it's overhauled. Being told a reason why, even if it's completely false is better than holding out false hope that EA knows, and is attempting a fix.

[JeffHCross]

It's not like the community, i.e Game Changers haven't brought these issues to EA.Then, obviously, they have been noticed and are known, yes? Not exactly "refusing to notice".

At least come out and say if it was attempted to be fixed, it would completely break the game, or just feed us lies telling us that it's an engine issue, and won't be fixed until it's overhauled. Being told a reason why, even if it's completely false is better than holding out false hope that EA knows, and is attempting a fix.I don't disagree. But notice that they don't "come out and say" practically anything, especially about issues. That's a policy (in my eyes). Not lazy.

[PeteyKirch]

Then, obviously, they have been noticed and are known, yes? Not exactly "refusing to notice".
I don't disagree. But notice that they don't "come out and say" practically anything, especially about issues. That's a policy (in my eyes). Not lazy.

Maybe refusing to notice is wrong for this year, but for issues that plagued the series for the last installments, that's refusing to notice, and correcting their ways.

[JeffHCross]

Agreed.

[jknaegle]

Does anyone know if playing time helps improve players? If I put a freshman in in the 4th quarter to do mop up is that going to make him any better?

[BCEagles]

Does anyone know if playing time helps improve players? If I put a freshman in in the 4th quarter to do mop up is that going to make him any better?
It should but I dont believe it does

[JeffHCross]

I've seen it believed that playing time has some (but limited) influence on progression. It's by no means the primary factor, but it's not a non-factor either, from the discussions I've seen.

[baseballplyrmvp]

I've seen it believed that playing time has some (but limited) influence on progression. It's by no means the primary factor, but it's not a non-factor either, from the discussions I've seen.

i wish stat based progression played some part (or a larger part if its already in there) than what it does. after my qb's performance in my most recent game of this site's od, i think his throw accuracy should go up a little bit. i'm kinda confused though that i set my own personal record for passing efficiency with michael eubank, of all people, by going 41 of 46.

[JeffHCross]

But are you talking about a temporary bump or a permanent addition? I can see the reason for the former, but not necessarily the latter. I'd imagine if the latter was true that people would find ways to game the system.

[baseballplyrmvp]

But are you talking about a temporary bump or a permanent addition? I can see the reason for the former, but not necessarily the latter. I'd imagine if the latter was true that people would find ways to game the system.

like there arent people who do that already. :D

imo, if it was perfectly done, it would feature larger temporary boosts/penalties to your ratings that would contribute to smaller more permanent boosts/penalties to your ratings.

ie: the throw power rating. one a one game scale, if you threw the ball 40 times and if every pass attempt went for 30 or more yards through the air, then by the end of the game you might see a +5 bonus to your throw power rating. however, in order for you to permanently change your qb's throw power rating, you'd have to have meet a certain criteria and then keep playing with that style. in this case, you'd have to sustain, maybe a 25 yard per attempt through the air ratio over the course of 3 or 4 games, in order to start affecting your throw power rating permanently. if that makes sense? thats just an example for something easy. i dont know how you'd come up with criteria for ball carrier vision or some of the other ratings.

[Rudy]

ie: the throw power rating. one a one game scale, if you threw the ball 40 times and if every pass attempt went for 30 or more yards through the air, then by the end of the game you might see a +5 bonus to your throw power rating. however, in order for you to permanently change your qb's throw power rating, you'd have to have meet a certain criteria and then keep playing with that style. in this case, you'd have to sustain, maybe a 25 yard per attempt through the air ratio over the course of 3 or 4 games, in order to start affecting your throw power rating permanently. if that makes sense? thats just an example for something easy. i dont know how you'd come up with criteria for ball carrier vision or some of the other ratings.

That is a bad example. Throw power is one of those attributes like speed that shouldn't really change. I could understand accuracy getting a boost if you are hitting 70% of your passes but some attributes should not change much over time and throwing power is probably at the top of the list.

[baseballplyrmvp]

That is a bad example. Throw power is one of those attributes like speed that shouldn't really change. I could understand accuracy getting a boost if you are hitting 70% of your passes but some attributes should not change much over time and throwing power is probably at the top of the list.

focus less on what rating is being used, and more on the process required for getting a boost.

[Rudy]

I understand but that process has to be tailored towards specific ratings and not everything imo.

[gigemaggs99]

I can't remember if it was here or in another thread but this WR slipping in the rain thingy is ok, but it sure can be annoying. I think it was Jeff that said, (if it wasn't sorry), it can be frustrating how the DBs NEVER slip.

I've also found it "interesting" for lack of a better F'ing term that the WR that slips the one that "should" be open. I.E. if it's cover to and your TE is running a deep post over the middle, he'll be the one to slip, not the WRs on the outside that are double covered. Why is the "open receiver" the one that slips? Just saying, if it's supposed to be a "cute animation" why doesn't the WR that is covered slip?

I guess this falls into the conspiracy of the CPU knows what you're calling and what WR "should" be open. Now, I will say I have seen the CPU WRs slip so atleast it happens to them too.

I've also had my QB slip on his drop back, actually one time he slipped so bad that he put his knee down and the play was over, that doesn't happen very often so it's not an issue, I like that it happens from time to time, I'm just voicing my concern about the slipping WR. I'd just like to see a double-covered WR slip, then I'd feel better out this silly animation.

[JeffHCross]

Yeah, definitely wasn't me ... because it doesn't bother me that the CBs don't slip. They have enough problems with going the wrong way on certain breaks or routes that I'd hate to add more problems for the coverage.

I don't think it has anything to do with being open or knowing what play is called ... I've seen receivers slip when they weren't open. It's probably more that you're not looking (as much) at the covered receivers ;) Also, the outside receivers are going to be significantly better at RTE than your TE/slot guys (at least usually), so they'd be the least likely to slip.

[baseballplyrmvp]

I understand but that process has to be tailored towards specific ratings and not everything imo.we currently have a progression system that is universal and applies to every rating...... and its absolutely terrible. having separate systems in place for the passing game, receiving aspect, ball carrier aspect, player engagement aspect, defensive coverage aspect, and possibly the kicking game is the only way to ensure that you can create a dynamic stat/performance based progression system, that is capable of taking any style of play and progressing/regressing your team's ratings to better reflect your style of play.

[gigemaggs99]

I'm sure this is going to be considered nit-picky but here is one thing I DO like in NCAA 13 vs Madden 13.

If I'm on the practice field or in a game and I'm searching through my playbook By Formation, let's say Weak Pro I pick a play and run it. When that play is over in NCAA it takes me right back to Weak Pro. In Madden it goes to a different formation, no rhyme or reason.

Same holds true if I go through my PB By Play Type. If I was previously in WEAK I, then back out to select BY PLAY TYPE then select a HB Draw play, then after that play is over if I go back to BY FORMATION it takes me back to WEAK I in NCAA, but again in Madden it just goes all over the place. It's like NCAA keeps a bookmark where you where. I like that.

Once I start learning my Playbook I start memorizing where my plays are, formation and plays. When NCAA takes you back to where you left off it is more user friendly to me, than Madden which doesn't seem to go back to any set formation. It would be ok if Madden always went back to Ace Big or the first formation but it doesn't it goes back to Singleback one time, the next it's Weak I, the next it's SG, it's all over the place. So I find myself clicking through the playbook again, each time trying to find plays. It seems to interrupt the flow of the play calling.

I like how NCAA does it, not sure why Madden has to be different in this respect.

[jaymo76]

I'm sure this is going to be considered nit-picky but here is one thing I DO like in NCAA 13 vs Madden 13.

If I'm on the practice field or in a game and I'm searching through my playbook By Formation, let's say Weak Pro I pick a play and run it. When that play is over in NCAA it takes me right back to Weak Pro. In Madden it goes to a different formation, no rhyme or reason.

Same holds true if I go through my PB By Play Type. If I was previously in WEAK I, then back out to select BY PLAY TYPE then select a HB Draw play, then after that play is over if I go back to BY FORMATION it takes me back to WEAK I in NCAA, but again in Madden it just goes all over the place. It's like NCAA keeps a bookmark where you where. I like that.

Once I start learning my Playbook I start memorizing where my plays are, formation and plays. When NCAA takes you back to where you left off it is more user friendly to me, than Madden which doesn't seem to go back to any set formation. It would be ok if Madden always went back to Ace Big or the first formation but it doesn't it goes back to Singleback one time, the next it's Weak I, the next it's SG, it's all over the place. So I find myself clicking through the playbook again, each time trying to find plays. It seems to interrupt the flow of the play calling.

I like how NCAA does it, not sure why Madden has to be different in this respect.

Great point Gigs! That is one of the items I forgot to mention in my initial analysis of Madden. If you are running a pro I tiwns when you go back into your playbook you should start at pro twins, NOT WHATEVER THE FIRST FORMATION IS in your book. It really hurts the flow of the game. I wonder if it's a bug as well???

Somethnig else that NCAA does 100% better than Madden, regardless of CCM's twitter et al... in NCAA you actually feel like you are part of the league now because of the game updates. In-game Madden still fails at connecting you to the rest of the league.

[jaymo76]

So out of curiosity, with the release of Madden, how many people are still actively playing NCAA? Based on the forums it doesn't seem like this years offering has kept people involved? I suspect OD's are a little different but what about offline gamers?

[souljahbill]

So out of curiosity, with the release of Madden, how many people are still actively playing NCAA? Based on the forums it doesn't seem like this years offering has kept people involved? I suspect OD's are a little different but what about offline gamers?

I'm still playing. I'm not a Madden guy.

[baseballplyrmvp]

I'm still playing. I'm not a Madden guy.

same here. ncaa can keep my attention for a while. madden cant.

[steelerfan]

So out of curiosity, with the release of FIFA 12 last September, how many people are still actively playing NCAA? Based on the forums it doesn't seem like this years offering has kept people involved? I suspect OD's are a little different but what about offline gamers?

Fixed. ;)

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[baseballplyrmvp]

i forget where it was discussed on here, but what causes the cpu to set your zone defense to aggressive?

[gigemaggs99]

I'm still playing. I'm not a Madden guy.

I'm playing both daily ODs and offline modes. I enjoy football :-)

[AustinWolv]

So out of curiosity, with the release of Madden, how many people are still actively playing NCAA? Based on the forums it doesn't seem like this years offering has kept people involved? I suspect OD's are a little different but what about offline gamers?

I would be playing if I had any time as of the last week. I haven't really played Madden since the early 2000s though, just pick them up later to whore achievements. ;) Is Madden really that good this year?

[GatorfanStovy]

So if you guys could chose what game would you guys get, Madden or NCAA 13 ?I'm gonna try and get one copy around Nov.Not sure what to get first.

[baseballplyrmvp]

is anyone else getting the popup at the loading screen that you have to review ea's TOS and private policy again? i got that screen when i first got the game, got it yesterday, and again got it today. :confused: are they doing something on their end?

[gschwendt]

is anyone else getting the popup at the loading screen that you have to review ea's TOS and private policy again? i got that screen when i first got the game, got it yesterday, and again got it today. :confused: are they doing something on their end?I got it twice yesterday. I haven't been on yet today.

[steelerfan]

Could it have to do with the uniform store? That would be my guess as to why that is triggering. :dunno:

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[gigemaggs99]

is anyone else getting the popup at the loading screen that you have to review ea's TOS and private policy again? i got that screen when i first got the game, got it yesterday, and again got it today. :confused: are they doing something on their end?

Yes I got that, one from Origin too. Like others have said or hinted to the new unis are coming soon, they are probably double-crossing their Ts and dotting their I's on all the agreements and lics, and legal mumbo jumbo.

[Rudy]

I got that TOS for Madden 13 as well.

[souljahbill]

WTF?!?!

I'm in dynasty playing against Memphis is a rivalry game. I'm Southern Miss's OC. Last game of the season. Blowing them out 49-0. CPU mass subs in 3rd qtr. In the 4th qtr with about 3 mins. to go, the CPU puts my starters back in. I'm not paying attention, QB gets sacked, broken ribs, out 3 weeks.

WHY IN THE BLUE HELL WERE THE STARTERS PUT BACK INTO THE GAME CPU HEAD COACH?!?!?!

[oweb26]

Without me searching all these pages anyone have any slider set or something to combat the shit-tacular run blocking? I was playing on Heisman, I have since knocked it back down to AA which has made it a little better (could be the placebo effect), but it's entirely to frustrating when you run a simple stretch play and lineman blow past linebackers to block a safety, what I find even more curious is this doesn't seem to happen as much when the CPU runs the ball.

Anyone have anything for it adjustments, etc?

[JeffHCross]

i forget where it was discussed on here, but what causes the cpu to set your zone defense to aggressive?It has something to do with SuperSim, but I haven't heard what specifically triggers it (if it's something specific and not just SuperSim in general)

[jaymo76]

WTF?!?!

I'm in dynasty playing against Memphis is a rivalry game. I'm Southern Miss's OC. Last game of the season. Blowing them out 49-0. CPU mass subs in 3rd qtr. In the 4th qtr with about 3 mins. to go, the CPU puts my starters back in. I'm not paying attention, QB gets sacked, broken ribs, out 3 weeks.

WHY IN THE BLUE HELL WERE THE STARTERS PUT BACK INTO THE GAME CPU HEAD COACH?!?!?!

As far as I am concerned the cpu should NEVER adjust HUM mass subs. It drives me nuts.

[JeffHCross]

As far as I am concerned the cpu should NEVER adjust HUM mass subs. It drives me nuts.If he's the OC, then SuperSim is being used. The CPU should have control over Mass Subs in SuperSim.

[jaymo76]

If he's the OC, then SuperSim is being used. The CPU should have control over Mass Subs in SuperSim.

True... but in the case of the post being up by 49 and starters are still in is just silly. There should be an hum override at that point.

[baseballplyrmvp]

True... but in the case of the post being up by 49 and starters are still in is just silly. There should be an hum override at that point.

or at least an on-screen notification that (a) certain player(s) are subbing in/out

[oweb26]

Anyone have there loading screen Move really slow!!! Mine is taking forever for some reason especially the log-in to EA servers portion.

[baseballplyrmvp]

zone play by safeties in a cover 2 is absolutely terrible....especially against shotgun trips like formations (ones with only 1 receiver on one side of the o-line)

here's a vid


http://www.easports.com/media/play/video/135749650

in the first part of the vid (showing the qb drop back), the free safety recognizes the initial threat, but because of the aggressive zone coverage bug, he isnt able to continue to drop into coverage, so he moves up to cover a zone closer to the LOS. since my corner was already beat on the play, its an easy read for the qb to make. my free safety then tries to recover, but by then, its too late.

this bug needs to be fixed.

[souljahbill]

Irony.

After taking a break, I got back into my dynasty in NCAA '13. I had 4 regular season games to go so I played the back-to-back which wasn't bad since I'm an OC and not an HC. So, I play my games, finish the season, and lo and behold, my (RS) FR starting QB won the Heisman! I didn't even know he was even a candidate as I don't typically click the Heisman tab during the season. "Gary Football," Gary Francis, also won the Walker and O'Brien awards YET was not 1st OR 2nd team All-American! He was a freshman All-American. He was also the 2nd team All-Conference QB. I have no idea how the game makes these decisions because I can't see how a QB who wins those 3 awards can be shafted in All-American recognition.

[souljahbill]

Final rankings at the end of the season
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/12/ry7yqaga.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/12/umaqyze6.jpg

Yay Florida! You're the national champs!!!! You did it!!!

Except.........

This is the score of the BCS National Championship Game:
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/12/y6ypy9a7.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/12/dyqabuhu.jpg
How do you win the championship by LOSING the championship game?!?!

Edit: Posted in Bugs/Glitch thread per Jeff

[JeffHCross]

Bill, if you would, kindly post that over in the Bugs & Glitches thread too.

[SmoothPancakes]

:D That's awesome. Even EA hates Notre Dame. :clap:

[psusnoop]

:D That's awesome. Even EA hates Notre Dame. :clap:

:D:D

[jaymo76]

Irony.

After taking a break, I got back into my dynasty in NCAA '13. I had 4 regular season games to go so I played the back-to-back which wasn't bad since I'm an OC and not an HC. So, I play my games, finish the season, and lo and behold, my (RS) FR starting QB won the Heisman! I didn't even know he was even a candidate as I don't typically click the Heisman tab during the season. "Gary Football," Gary Francis, also won the Walker and O'Brien awards YET was not 1st OR 2nd team All-American! He was a freshman All-American. He was also the 2nd team All-Conference QB. I have no idea how the game makes these decisions because I can't see how a QB who wins those 3 awards can be shafted in All-American recognition.

I have come to the conclusion that there is no rhyme or reason to awards, etc. with this game. Back in 09 I had this beast QB, Sanders #16. He is at the top of the Heisman poll all year long and leads the nation in passing, tds and rushing for a qb. The guy broke every school record. Well, we have no game scheduled for the last week of the season. After that the season progresses to conference titles and then bowls... I am NOT even listed as a candidtate and didn't get any votes for the Heisman!????????! Plus, regardless of how good me team is, on PS3 I have never won coach of the year. For the longest time I thought they took it out of the game.

[JeffHCross]

There is both rhyme and reason ... but there are a few bugs too, I think.

Your 09 example was common back in those days ... I had something similar around the same time. Very uncommon to see that now though.

[jaymo76]

There is both rhyme and reason ... but there are a few bugs too, I think.

Your 09 example was common back in those days ... I had something similar around the same time. Very uncommon to see that now though.

I'll take you word that it's better now. I haven't had a heisman worthy candidate since 09 :D

[JeffHCross]

Well, I won the Powerhouse Heisman this year, so obviously it's better :whistle:

[souljahbill]

Well, I won the Powerhouse Heisman this year, so obviously it's better :whistle:

LOL! Guess that proves it!

[baseballplyrmvp]

i just had my first pass interference penalty called on a cpu controlled defense in over 2 years :o

[JeffHCross]

Anybody seen this? Or have any clue what the result is going to be?

So, one of my incoming freshmen is listed as a Transfer on the Roster screen (on the console), and shows as being redshirted. The Dynasty Wire doesn't show him as redshirting. Anybody got any ideas?

[baseballplyrmvp]

i always assume that the dynasty wire is wrong.

i dont understand, though, how an incoming freshman could be listed as a transfer?

[JeffHCross]

i always assume that the dynasty wire is wrong.Would generally agree, but this is the first time I can recall the two disagreeing on the roster.

i dont understand, though, how an incoming freshman could be listed as a transfer?Yeah, that's why I'm concerned. Never seen that before, that I can recall. And I don't know how it's possible (maybe something f-ed up because I cut my incoming transfer?). But the player in question is very, very important to my future plans, so if he's not actually redshirting I need to know it, quick. I think I'm going to wait until I get some CPU games and then see if I can add him to the depth chart. If not, I'm okay with that, because he should redshirt either way.

[SmoothPancakes]

They have GOT to fix the no huddle issue with this game. Playing my Tulsa dynasty game vs. New Mexico, I was in the supersim window to type up the last couple plays of my game summary, when I accidentally hit RB to watch the next play. That left me stuck watching the next 7 plays of my offensive drive as my offense just kept sprinting back to the line after every play, no matter what button I pushed, no matter how many times I pounded Select to call a timeout, I was stuck watching the CPU take over my offense. That is getting damn annoying, as it tends to happen at least once a game, and has nearly before screwed me out of a win.

[JeffHCross]

Yeah. No Huddle should NOT override SuperSim.

[psusnoop]

Yeah. No Huddle should NOT override SuperSim.

Completely agree!!!

[JeffHCross]

Though I did have an alternative thought. Theoretically if No Huddle did allow you to exit, then you could change your depth chart / sub players / etc. Current system doesn't allow that, much like it doesn't on the field.

That said, that's a minuscule problem for me. The bigger problem is accidentally hitting Watch Play and getting stuck.

[GatorfanStovy]

I'm not sure if any one is still playing but after the 4.40 update on ps3 I installed yesterday. I was playing a RTTG mode and when hading off to my HB the game would suddenly slow and shudder in frames and get some one what fuzzy. Is this happening to any one? this had never happen before. I haven't played it today at all to check back. But it was almost unplayable because of skip problem. Just thought I would ask around.

[JeffHCross]

Plenty are still playing. I haven't seen any reports in the OD threads about this, but I'll keep an eye out.

[GatorfanStovy]

@jefh
Ok I wasn't sure if it was just me or a normal thing. I will try and play again soon to confirm but it was tough playing rttg on it though. Hopefully it was a blip in my system or an internet error / lag.

[GatorfanStovy]

An update on my issue. I was able to get a quick RTTG game. I'm on the Oregon team as a starting QB / duel threat white man ha. finish the game off with 340 yards in passing 60 rushing yards 1 rush td and 3 passing td's and two picks ( idiot throw deep and short gainer to a TE ) But on my freezing issue/frame studdar . It went away in this game and no issues. It must have just been my internet giving out lag or the EA servers. I just wish our RTTG games could be 10 min quarters . I can not get enough play time in 5 mins ugh.

[SmoothPancakes]

Others have mentioned it before, and I'm repeating it, they seriously need to fix how the game decides what the Game of the Week is. Currently in week 8, the Game of the Week is Stanford (5-1) at #24 Notre Dame (3-3). And yet, #4 Texas (4-0) vs. #7 Oklahoma (3-1) gets completely ignored.

Please, someone explain to me how the hell Stanford-#24 Notre Dames ends up the Game of the Week over #4 Texas-#7 Oklahoma, because I seriously cannot see how that would EVER happen in real life.

Edit - Correction, an even better case for Game of the Week in the exact same week, #2 Georgia (5-0) vs. #5 LSU (5-0).

[souljahbill]

Others have mentioned it before, and I'm repeating it, they seriously need to fix how the game decides what the Game of the Week is. Currently in week 8, the Game of the Week is Stanford (5-1) at #24 Notre Dame (3-3). And yet, #4 Texas (4-0) vs. #7 Oklahoma (3-1) gets completely ignored.

Please, someone explain to me how the hell Stanford-#24 Notre Dames ends up the Game of the Week over #4 Texas-#7 Oklahoma, because I seriously cannot see how that would EVER happen in real life.

Edit - Correction, an even better case for Game of the Week in the exact same week, #2 Georgia (5-0) vs. #5 LSU (5-0).

There have been weeks in my dynasty where #1 vs. #2 wasn't even GotW. :smh: :fp:

[SmoothPancakes]

There have been weeks in my dynasty where #1 vs. #2 wasn't even GotW. :smh: :fp:

I had that happen at the beginning of my current season when #1 USC and #2 Oklahoma played. Whatever logic they have the game using to select what is GotW for each week, the logic is seriously flawed and broken. From what I have noticed, it always goes for some random rivalry game, usually only involving one Top 25 team. They need to change it so games between Top 10 opponents are first considered, then Top 25 opponents, with rivalry games being a distant third option.

[ram29jackson]

live weather in practice mode is interesting/funny/cool..seems to be raining everywhere lately except California

[ram29jackson]

for the love of God, make play selection matter.

I am sick of seeing a dive stopped by 3 defensive linemen in a blatant pass defense to my 5 on a consistent basis.

Make play selection actually matter and 5 or 6 against 3 actually mean what its supposed to.

[ram29jackson]

the fact that they never made an effort to fix or patch or what ever...when the offense audibles and it destroys/deletes all the defensive hot routes you are making before a play...I find very disappointing in this internet gaming age.

I like the game but it has so,so many holes in it compared to madden that prospers cheaters in the online world.

The only thing Madden can learn from NCAA is the post game highlights and replay system in NCAA is waaay better.

both games need to implement that if a guy concedes, the game should end as normal with post game and highlights etc so you don't lose the great plays that made t happen.

Like in mlb the Show, there is a 10 run mercy rule and when reached the game ends as it normally would and you still get stats and replays.

I hate when guys quit with a couple minuted left or something when you were wanting to see a replay of a fantastic play from earlier in game...now its just lost....

[souljahbill]

Are there times when after bowl season, you hold back from advancing to the offseason because you're going to lose some special kids, either to graduation or leaving early for the draft? That's where I am now. I'd like to advance and play another season but there are some players on the current time that'll disappear and become a memory once I do. THESE KIDS ARE MY BABIES!

[ram29jackson]

in all honesty,... I hate that in the replays after the game it wont record all field goals or give them a high enough grade to be seen. Sometimes they are crucial or long but they wont get anything but a C or B and just disappear

[SmoothPancakes]

in all honesty,... I hate that in the replays after the game it wont record all field goals or give them a high enough grade to be seen. Sometimes they are crucial or long but they wont get anything but a C or B and just disappear

It doesn't save all plays for you? Granted, I'm just an offensive coordinator right now in my dynasty, so it only has to deal with half the plays that I'm actually in control, but all my offensive drives and plays are viewable and able to make highlights or pictures out of after the game, even the ones I get a C or F on.

[ram29jackson]

It doesn't save all plays for you? Granted, I'm just an offensive coordinator right now in my dynasty, so it only has to deal with half the plays that I'm actually in control, but all my offensive drives and plays are viewable and able to make highlights or pictures out of after the game, even the ones I get a C or F on.

online ranked games only save a strong B or above

[SmoothPancakes]

online ranked games only save a strong B or above

Ah, that would be the problem then. I haven't played an online ranked game in NCAA since the Xbox/PS2 days, so no clue how they did it there.

[jello1717]

Ah, that would be the problem then. I haven't played an online ranked game in NCAA since the Xbox/PS2 days, so no clue how they did it there.

This isn't an online thing. In my offline dynasty on my 360 with an HDD with GBs of free space I can't view every highlight at the end of a game. I can view every play (including those with penalties) immediately after the play is over, but if I do even 1 more play, I can only view the highlights of plays that have a high enough grade. Also, if there was a declined penalty on the play, even if it's a 99 yard TD graded as an A+, I can't view the highlight at the end of the game.

[steelerfan]

This isn't an online thing. In my offline dynasty on my 360 with an HDD with GBs of free space I can't view every highlight at the end of a game. I can view every play (including those with penalties) immediately after the play is over, but if I do even 1 more play, I can only view the highlights of plays that have a high enough grade. Also, if there was a declined penalty on the play, even if it's a 99 yard TD graded as an A+, I can't view the highlight at the end of the game.

This is correct.

I'm using Tapatalk 2 and the Cleveland Browns STILL suck.

[SmoothPancakes]

Huh, that's odd. I've been able to go back and pull up first quarter plays at the end of a game, even with crappy grades. Never had a problem with any of that.

[ram29jackson]

ps3 or xbox360 differences I suppose ?

[punter]

Only thing I've seen not work on xbox so far was I tried to call a late time out before half and it wouldn't let me but that was only one time.
Other then that I've enjoyed the demo, just ready for full game so I can play with teams that aren't very good.