Here is my hope for E3

[cmckinnon15]

New poster here, so if this has been discussed already, feel free to delete this. I can't remember where, but I read there is another announcement for NCAA 13 at E3. So here is my hope: I've seen that the Heisman Challenge mode, Mascot mode, etc. are there to draw in the casual gamers. So i'm hoping they'll announce info on details they've added to dynasty at E3. Correct me if i'm wrong, but E3 is more for dedicated gamers. So hopefully they'll announce something like duplicate numbers, spring game, bigger rosters, etc. Thoughts?

[gschwendt]

I don't think it's been brought up here but here's the article in reference:
http://www.easports.com/news/article/ea-sports-e3-viewing-guide


NCAA Football
NCAA thought they’d jump the gun a little bit and give you a taste of what they’re bringing to the table a week early. In addition to revealing their Heisman Playbook on Wednesday May 29th, they’re also hosting a Heisman Webcast the same day. There may also be another big announcement in the works that we’re not at liberty to discuss yet...but if we were you we would probably be checking the site regularly for some big NCAA news.

I know what the announcement is so I won't expand on it anymore than that.

[SmoothPancakes]

I don't think it's been brought up here but here's the article in reference:
http://www.easports.com/news/article/ea-sports-e3-viewing-guide



I know what the announcement is so I won't expand on it anymore than that.

Are you at least able to say if it is something that "we" (here on TGT) would consider big? Or that would be considered big by casual gamers?

[morsdraconis]

Are you at least able to say if it is something that "we" (here on TGT) would consider big? Or that would be considered big by casual gamers?

I can guarantee it's the later and not the former. Our "big" thing is gonna be the new passing and zone engines.

[gschwendt]

Are you at least able to say if it is something that "we" (here on TGT) would consider big? Or that would be considered big by casual gamers?I'd like to say more but really not sure how to say it. I'll just say that I don't think anyone will be terribly disappointed.

[JBHuskers]

It kinda depends on your expectations. To me, it was a nice surprise.

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[SmoothPancakes]

I'd like to say more but really not sure how to say it. I'll just say that I don't think anyone will be terribly disappointed.


It kinda depends on your expectations. To me, it was a nice surprise.

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Well, I'm not going to have high expectations on it, so I'll be good there. But based on the responses from both of you, it at least sounds like it could potentially be an interesting and maybe even promising announcement.

[ram29jackson]

I don't think it's been brought up here but here's the article in reference:
http://www.easports.com/news/article/ea-sports-e3-viewing-guide



I know what the announcement is so I won't expand on it anymore than that.


I'd like to say more but really not sure how to say it. I'll just say that I don't think anyone will be terribly disappointed.


It kinda depends on your expectations. To me, it was a nice surprise.

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you should have just said nothing about knowing anything then LOL

I know something you dont know nana nana

[SCClassof93]

I don't think it's been brought up here but here's the article in reference:
http://www.easports.com/news/article/ea-sports-e3-viewing-guide



I know what the announcement is so I won't expand on it anymore than that.

I am just hoping it is dynasty or gameplay related :nod:

[JeffHCross]

Correct me if i'm wrong, but E3 is more for dedicated gamers.You're not wrong, but I think you're being a little loose with your definitions of "casual gamers" and "dedicated gamers".

Heisman Challenge, and modes like it, are not designed to get Grandma off the couch and playing NCAA. Or the girls on the other side of the dorm to stop playing Farmville and play NCAA. When games are truly going after "causal gamers", that's really what they mean. It's an area dominated by the Wii and mobile/Facebook games. There are some 360/PS3 games that are trying to attract that audience. Few, but some.

E3 is for the, generally, "attentive" gamer, I would say. It's not just your hardcore audience that are reading IGN every day, but the general E3 audience can at least be expected to be gaming pretty regularly. It's obviously not for the solely hardcore because, otherwise, it wouldn't be covered by "mainstream press" like G4, Spike, and even major newspapers like USA Today and the Washington Post. Yes, GameTrailers TV is a "hardcore audience" show, but the Spike coverage goes above and beyond what you normally get out of GT.TV.

As much as we, the forums goers of TGT, would hate to admit, features like the Heisman Challenge are aimed directly at audiences like E3. E3 presentations are designed to get buzz going for a product, to get the media interesting in talking about (or, dare we say it, promoting) a product, and to get consumers watching at home interesting in buying a product. That's why Kinect was announced at E3. That's why consoles are generally announced at E3. It's the biggest audience of the year for the gaming industry, and they want to take advantage of it.

From an NCAA / college football perspective, what's more appealing to a large audience? "Scout your players, one rating at a time!" or "You get to control Barry Sanders and win the Heisman!". I think the latter, easily.

The only time that major "hardcore audience" features are going to be announced at E3, are when they're something that everyone could be interested in. CoD Elite (Call of Duty's fancy-pants premium multiplayer system) is really a "hardcore" feature, though they've tried to pawn it off as something everyone can use. But since the game has such a massive appeal, and since "perks" can have an impulse buy influence, it makes sense to advertise it at E3.

Or, to use Star Wars: The Old Republic as an example, there's a reason TOR announcements at E3 were usually massive CGI trailers rather than nuts and bolts gameplay and how you level up. The former sparks interest and discussion. The latter is something only "I've already pre-ordered!" players want to see at E3.

All that being said, I totally understand why we label "the rest of them" as "casual gamers". But it's important to realize that "casual gamers" and "the E3 audience" (which, I believe, is still largely media or other industy folks in physical attendance) are not that different.

EDIT: One more point I meant to make. It's true that, you could reasonably say, everyone paying attention to E3 is probably in the "hardcore" audience for at least one title. But if someone is watching that's a "hardcore" CoD player, their attention is not likely to be drawn to NCAA by enhancements to dynasty. You will generally need to be a "hardcore" sports gamer for that to appeal to you.


Are you at least able to say if it is something that "we" (here on TGT) would consider big? Or that would be considered big by casual gamers?As far as I'm concerned, if NCAA has any presence in the EA Keynote/Press Conference, that alone should get TGT excited. NCAA has been off the E3 stage for a long, long time.

[JeffHCross]

I'd like to say more but really not sure how to say it. I'll just say that I don't think anyone will be terribly disappointed.http://www.acasports.co.uk/images/products/full/nike_park_ii_football_socks_colours.jpg

[SmoothPancakes]

As far as I'm concerned, if NCAA has any presence in the EA Keynote/Press Conference, that alone should get TGT excited. NCAA has been off the E3 stage for a long, long time.

You make a very good point there. Last year was all about Madden (last year was the first year I actually sat and watched extensive E3 coverage and didn't just catch highlight videos or read about stuff on here or other sites), so that NCAA is getting something at E3, that is definitely reason for hope and promise of it being something at least decent or good.

[jaymo76]

This may be the year... come on wind sock builder.

[SmoothPancakes]

This may be the year... come on wind sock builder.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZluzt3H6tk

YES! YES! YES!

:nod: :nod: :nod: :)) :)) :)) :drool: :drool: :drool:

[steelerfan]

This may be the year... come on wind sock builder.

Create-a-Sock, Cleat Editor, Facemask Creation Zone, or Alabama Jersey Color Wheel. :nod:

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[morsdraconis]

This may be the year... come on wind sock builder.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZluzt3H6tk

YES! YES! YES!

:nod: :nod: :nod: :)) :)) :)) :drool: :drool: :drool:


Create-a-Sock, Cleat Editor, Facemask Creation Zone, or Alabama Jersey Color Wheel. :nod:

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:D :D :D

[Noles94]

It kinda depends on your expectations. To me, it was a nice surprise.

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Yes, Mass Effect-style tap Erin Andrews/Campus Love Interest Mode. Awww yeah! :clap:

[baseballplyrmvp]

its gotta be something online that you can do from your computer. maybe something related to the dynasty website or something like being able to start on your console/pc, but then finish the game on the other. they've really pushed that aspect these last couple of years. maybe something teambuilder related?

[NaptownMVP]

Well the EA site says "but if we were you we would probably be checking the site regularly for some big NCAA news.". Which seems to me to be saying that "we've already announced everything big, so there's nothing new at E3 for NCAA, and whatever this new tidbit is will just be announced on this site at some point."

[BigDmo]

Heard it's Season Showdown 2.0, and let's just say I cannot wait to earn fake points for my school in a big fake contest that means absolutely nothing.

[JeffHCross]

Well the EA site says "but if we were you we would probably be checking the site regularly for some big NCAA news.". Which seems to me to be saying that "we've already announced everything big, so there's nothing new at E3 for NCAA, and whatever this new tidbit is will just be announced on this site at some point."Not sure how you're getting "we've already announced everything big" out of that statement. It's clearly future tense, meaning an "some big NCAA news" is yet to come.

If what you're getting out of it is that it's being announced on the site, look at the other descriptions for E3 announcements. That blog says nothing about the EA press conference. It only touts what will be coming to the website: three more Madden playbooks, FIFA news, etc, etc. As far as EA is concerned, they want you to get the news from their site, not elsewhere. That's all "checking the site regularly" means.

Heard it's Season Showdown 2.0, and let's just say I cannot wait to earn fake points for my school in a big fake contest that means absolutely nothing.Even though Tommy's pulling a JB-level of teasing right now, I'm quite confident in saying that Tommy wouldn't say that we won't be "terribly disappointed" if it was Showdown 2.0. Unless Showdown was completely revolutionized (and improved), it would be a "Meh" from most of us, and a negative from the others.

[SmoothPancakes]

Not sure how you're getting "we've already announced everything big" out of that statement. It's clearly future tense, meaning an "some big NCAA news" is yet to come.

If what you're getting out of it is that it's being announced on the site, look at the other descriptions for E3 announcements. That blog says nothing about the EA press conference. It only touts what will be coming to the website: three more Madden playbooks, FIFA news, etc, etc. As far as EA is concerned, they want you to get the news from their site, not elsewhere. That's all "checking the site regularly" means.

Even though Tommy's pulling a JB-level of teasing right now, I'm quite confident in saying that Tommy wouldn't say that we won't be "terribly disappointed" if it was Showdown 2.0. Unless Showdown was completely revolutionized (and improved), it would be a "Meh" from most of us, and a negative from the others.

This. Season Showdown has been hated and disliked by a great many on here in the past. No way would G say we wouldn't be terribly disappointed if it really was SS 2.0. That would get ripped harder and so much worse than Heisman Challenge did.

[Little Steve]

Brought back old mini games such as bowling and ect...?
And what time the spurs vs thunder game?

[Jayrah]

Brought back old mini games such as bowling and ect...?
And what time the spurs vs thunder game?Really Steve? This is an ncaa related thread, and you wanna know what time that game is at? Go to NBA.com! Good grief.

[Little Steve]

Really Steve? This is an ncaa related thread, and you wanna know what time that game is at? Go to NBA.com! Good grief.

Easy boy, easy just trying to kill 2 birds with 1 stone.

And you wanna know what time a game is, not at

[JeffHCross]

And you wanna know what time a game is, not atBoth work. "What time is the game?" "The game is at noon". The same answer would be for "What time is the game at?"

[BigDmo]

This. Season Showdown has been hated and disliked by a great many on here in the past. No way would G say we wouldn't be terribly disappointed if it really was SS 2.0. That would get ripped harder and so much worse than Heisman Challenge did.

Sarcasm doesn't transfer well over the internet haha. I would cancel my preorder and convince my friends not to buy the game if it was SS 2.0. I can't believe they tried to pass that off as a feature. I didn't use it until they forced me to last year.

[JeffHCross]

Sarcasm doesn't transfer well over the internet haha. I would cancel my preorder and convince my friends not to buy the game if it was SS 2.0. I can't believe they tried to pass that off as a feature. I didn't use it until they forced me to last year.Well, the sarcasm in the rest of the sentence came across just fine :D And, glancing over at OS, you could have easily "heard" that it was SS 2.0. That's what a lot of people are "expecting".

[SmoothPancakes]

Sarcasm doesn't transfer well over the internet haha. I would cancel my preorder and convince my friends not to buy the game if it was SS 2.0. I can't believe they tried to pass that off as a feature. I didn't use it until they forced me to last year.


Well, the sarcasm in the rest of the sentence came across just fine :D And, glancing over at OS, you could have easily "heard" that it was SS 2.0. That's what a lot of people are "expecting".

Yeah, like Jeff said, the rest of the sentence, the sarcasm was oozing and dripping from it so it came across perfectly fine there. :D It was just the first part of the sentence that didn't quite come across as sarcastic. But yeah, if SS 2.0 was the "big feature", what a way to piss off the entire hardcore fanbase that would be. :fp:

[jaymo76]

I would love to hear them say "due to popular demand we have decided to make 50 FCS teams free DLC. These teams can be used as substitutes for FCS EAST, etc."

[SmoothPancakes]

I would love to hear them say "due to popular demand we have decided to make 50 FCS teams free DLC. These teams can be used as substitutes for FCS EAST, etc."

:nod: :+1:

[Little Steve]

I would love to hear them say "due to popular demand we have decided to make 50 FCS teams free DLC. These teams can be used as substitutes for FCS EAST, etc."
http://www.google.com/imgres?start=98&um=1&hl=en&sa=N&biw=1024&bih=506&tbm=isch&tbnid=S9x6MpGDnBU9eM:&imgrefurl=http://memegenerator.net/instance/19944816&docid=XS0ANEQg89jr4M&imgurl=http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/19944816.jpg&w=400&h=400&ei=uVrKT9P7IIjq6gGz8d0i&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=587&vpy=2&dur=46&hovh=225&hovw=225&tx=147&ty=101&sig=110827405035544162048&page=8&tbnh=154&tbnw=141&ndsp=13&ved=1t:429,r:3,s:98,i:11 This is actully worth clicking on...

[baseballplyrmvp]

Sarcasm doesn't transfer well over the internet haha. I would cancel my preorder and convince my friends not to buy the game if it was SS 2.0. I can't believe they tried to pass that off as a feature. I didn't use it until they forced me to last year.ya, but i can understand why they did. its like what tommy and jb have been saying in regards to heisman challenge. it wasnt something that was really intended for the hardcore fans; its mostly a back of the box big name feature targetting the casual gamers who are on the fence about buying the game.

[SmoothPancakes]

ya, but i can understand why they did. its like what tommy and jb have been saying in regards to heisman challenge. it wasnt something that was really intended for the hardcore fans; its mostly a back of the box big name feature targetting the casual gamers who are on the fence about buying the game.

Sadly, yes. NCAA, and all sports games, thrive and depend on the casual gamers to survive. As someone (I can't recall if it was JB, G, Jeff or someone else) said, we (the hardcore gamers) are only a portion of the NCAA sales, it's the casual gamers who drive up the sales of the game, and who EA is relying and depending on to buy the game.

Clearly EA is gearing a lot towards us hardcore gamers with our wishlists, the in-depth stuff they're adding to dynasty and whatnot, the community guys being in contact with the devs and going to Orlando to work with the devs throughout the later winter/spring months, but they have to add stuff to gain interest of the casual gamers and get them to buy the game.

Obviously we (the hardcore gamers) are not happy about some of the casual stuff and fluff being added, but it's a necessity. Hardcore gamer sales alone probably would not sustain the NCAA franchise.

[JeffHCross]

Well, if you look at the intent of Season Showdown, it was for the hardcore too.

"We've created a system where NCAA players can represent their school. That system also allows us to identify people who play the game as it should be played, as well as calling cheesers out on their bullshit."

Intent and execution, unfortunately, are two completely different things. But I don't think Season Showdown was some casual-recruitment tool. It just became something that the hardcore didn't like, and if the hardcore doesn't like it, it's clearly meant for casual players ;)

[NaptownMVP]

Not sure how you're getting "we've already announced everything big" out of that statement. It's clearly future tense, meaning an "some big NCAA news" is yet to come.

Not from the part that I quoted, but this part:


NCAA thought they’d jump the gun a little bit and give you a taste of what they’re bringing to the table a week early. In addition to revealing their Heisman Playbook on Wednesday May 29th, they’re also hosting a Heisman Webcast the same day.

Because they were going through and listing everything that would be talked about at E3. EA says that NCAA jumped the gun a little bit, meaning that they didn't wait for E3 to announce all of their features (like the other games on this list).

I could be wrong, but that's just another way to read it.


If what you're getting out of it is that it's being announced on the site, look at the other descriptions for E3 announcements. That blog says nothing about the EA press conference. It only touts what will be coming to the website: three more Madden playbooks, FIFA news, etc, etc. As far as EA is concerned, they want you to get the news from their site, not elsewhere. That's all "checking the site regularly" means.

Well if that's the case, then good, because I don't want to wait much longer than Monday to find out. :)

[JeffHCross]

Because they were going through and listing everything that would be talked about at E3. EA says that NCAA jumped the gun a little bit, meaning that they didn't wait for E3 to announce all of their features (like the other games on this list).I do agree that was a weird way to phrase it. It was almost a "wait, did they do it without permission?" way to phrase it. Obviously that would be impossible. I think they were just playing off on the fact that NCAA announced something Wednesday while practically every other game in existence is waiting for Monday or Tuesday.

Of course, I could be totally wrong too :D

[Treadstone6700]

We are going to find out tomorrow right?

[gschwendt]

We are going to find out tomorrow right?Not certain when the announcement is but I imagine tomorrow or possibly Tuesday.

[NaptownMVP]

EA is part of Microsoft's presentation, which starts at noon EDT.

[gschwendt]

EA is part of Microsoft's presentation, which starts at noon EDT.

Yeah, I but that almost certainly will focus on Madden Kinect since we've heard nothing about it.

[NaptownMVP]

I just saw that the EA press conference is at 3EDT.

[SmoothPancakes]

I just saw that the EA press conference is at 3EDT.

Yeah, they might comment on Madden Kinect during the Microsoft conference, but I don't think we'll see anything major on NCAA or Madden until the actual EA presser at 3pm.

[TIMB0B]

Is non-disclosure in effect until the announcement today, or does it go through the release of the game?

[gschwendt]

Is non-disclosure in effect until the announcement today, or does it go through the release of the game?We're under NDA until each item is announced in detail by EA.

[TIMB0B]

We're under NDA until each item is announced in detail by EA.

Thanks.

[JeffHCross]

As far as I'm concerned, if NCAA has any presence in the EA Keynote/Press Conference, that alone should get TGT excited. NCAA has been off the E3 stage for a long, long time.So much for that :D

[Noles94]

So much for that :D

Not at all. We got two huge announcements today. No new physics and export draft class removed. That's two when we were only expecting one. Watch out now! :)) :fp:

[TIMB0B]

I'd like to say more but really not sure how to say it. I'll just say that I don't think anyone will be terribly disappointed.

They announced an early release of the demo. Was this the big announcement?

[gschwendt]

They announced an early release of the demo. Was this the big announcement?Yes (http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/forums/showthread.php?5134-NCAA-Football-13-Demo-Available-During-E3&p=142129&viewfull=1#post142129).

[TIMB0B]

Yes (http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/forums/showthread.php?5134-NCAA-Football-13-Demo-Available-During-E3&p=142129&viewfull=1#post142129).Darn. I was hoping for something like TB updates or something.

[TIMB0B]

Is there any other news/updates yet to be released for this game?

[gschwendt]

Is there any other news/updates yet to be released for this game?The Road to Glory playbook will be next week.

The experience of being a college football superstar is now even more exciting with a new feature in Road to Glory that allows players to see and feel the game differently during key moments, increasing on-field awareness and creating amazing opportunities.

Check back June 11 for further details, assets and insights from the development team.

Aside from that, no, none that I'm aware of. At this point, it's just watching videos EA releases and waiting for people to receive early copies to give impressions. That and the Season Ticket download will be available on July 6th leading to the release on July 10th.

[TIMB0B]

Thanks. Anxious to see RTG. I haven't really sustained interest in it because of some of the nuances, but hopefully they addressed the requests by the community.

[BigDmo]

This year has to be even more disappointing than last year's release, wow.

So sad to see the NCAA series getting driven into the ground