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souljahbill
05-13-2012, 04:44 PM
or worse yet, do the d-linemen act like they're being chased by the qb and run away from him?

I've seen that a lot too.

oweb26
05-13-2012, 06:42 PM
So you did notice it then... :D
LOL I noticed something, but I didn't really put too much thinking behind it, I just didn't throw the ball directly at any LB's.

Little Steve
05-13-2012, 09:32 PM
I just asked a question on youtube and had 15 people correct and msg me on my misspelling of a word....
( Can you find the mistake?)

edit- hint their are lots!

In collage im gonna major in engrish!!!

souljahbill
05-13-2012, 09:37 PM
Yes, "their" are.

LOL!

Deuce
05-15-2012, 11:16 AM
Cd guys...I know this is somewhat difficult to answer but what's your opinion on the CPU this year vs last year. Not really looking for anything specific. Really just your opinion on if you think the CPU will be tougher or easier this year?


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gschwendt
05-15-2012, 01:40 PM
Cd guys...I know this is somewhat difficult to answer but what's your opinion on the CPU this year vs last year. Not really looking for anything specific. Really just your opinion on if you think the CPU will be tougher or easier this year?

Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkHard to really say. Unfortunately, the last couple of days we were there, the CPU was inept on AA. I was routinely beating them like a drum and normally at these events, the scores are competitive since we're still adjusting to the changes. I'm confident it was some kind of bug but I wasn't able to put my finger on what it was exactly. I did (as did others) make sure to note that the CPU was too easy so I would bet it's corrected to be at least as sufficient as the past.

gschwendt
05-15-2012, 01:51 PM
For those that experienced issues with the Pistol run game, what kind of issues are you experiencing on NCAA12? This season in one of the ODs I'm in, I decided to go with a largely Pistol-based offense. While it was originally designed to be pass-heavy spread, I've found that since my QB is often inconsistent, I'm running the ball a lot more. In fact, in my game against a User last night, my HB ran for 28 carries for 259 on the ground with probably 90% pistol running plays (I'll upload a highlight video later today).

I'm calling dives, slams, zones, counters, cutbacks, draws, HB powers, stretches, and none of them seem to be terribly broken. I'm not running any read-option (since my QB is 56 SPD) and I know that's been an issue in the past but presumably the changes to the Shotgun option should also carry-over to the Pistol option. About the only play I've found that's truly broken is the jet sweep and that's because the HB doesn't get out in front to block like he seems to try to.

Let me know if there's something else that I need to look at or if I'm just seeing the exception to the rule. For full disclosure, I'm using a custom playbook with a mixture of Pistol - Slot, Pistol - Spread, Pistol - Spread Flex, and Pistol - Strong Slot. Additionally, I'm using ECU in the 6th year of the dynasty.

Deuce
05-15-2012, 02:31 PM
Hard to really say. Unfortunately, the last couple of days we were there, the CPU was inept on AA. I was routinely beating them like a drum and normally at these events, the scores are competitive since we're still adjusting to the changes. I'm confident it was some kind of bug but I wasn't able to put my finger on what it was exactly. I did (as did others) make sure to note that the CPU was too easy so I would bet it's corrected to be at least as sufficient as the past.

Thanks G. I hope it's harder than last year or at least equal. AA was lot of fun for me last year...especially starting out as a team rated in the 60's.


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razorback44
05-15-2012, 04:44 PM
In fact, in my game against a User last night, my HB ran for 28 carries for 259 on the ground with probably 90% pistol running plays


http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/795/wha9kk.gif

Yeah I've never even remotely come close to having that kind of the success out of the pistol running the ball. I'm excited to see your video and see how it's done. I've just always felt like the play is slow in developing no matter what the call is from simple dives to tosses to read options. I would love to put more pistol in my playbook because Arkansas uses it more and more each year but I can never get it to work like my under center stuff.

ryby6969
05-15-2012, 05:02 PM
Question G, what position on D did the user control? When I play against my Bro-in-law and I try to use even a One Back playbook, he will blow most of the plays up in the backfield with a MLB by just shooting gaps at the snap. The shotgun offenses are really tough to run against a user that is good with the MLB in my experiences this year.

gschwendt
05-15-2012, 05:11 PM
Question G, what position on D did the user control? When I play against my Bro-in-law and I try to use even a One Back playbook, he will blow most of the plays up in the backfield with a MLB by just shooting gaps at the snap. The shotgun offenses are really tough to run against a user that is good with the MLB in my experiences this year.He was usering mostly MLB but also some DL. I think I was doing enough passing to keep him honest to not commit one way or another, plus with my past history in SBCOL, I think everyone is thinking pass first with me anyway.

gschwendt
05-15-2012, 05:28 PM
One thing about the Pistol I definitely will say though, the playaction out of it on NCAA12 is considerably better than either under center or Shotgun. Rarely if ever do I feel instant-pressured like I do on either of the other two.

Rudy
05-15-2012, 06:14 PM
Thanks G. I hope it's harder than last year or at least equal. AA was lot of fun for me last year...especially starting out as a team rated in the 60's.



I personally thought the cpu was poor on AA last year. Their running game and overall dumb play calling and execution frustrated me, even with slider adjustments. The cpu running game is always really bad on AA too.

The funny thing is most people on hardcore gaming sites find AA/All-Pro on the easy side with Heisman/All-Madden too difficult. With so many people loathing sliders I think EA should take a long look at offering another difficulty level between AA and Heisman. I think a ton of people would love that option including myself.

gschwendt
05-15-2012, 09:14 PM
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/795/wha9kk.gif

Yeah I've never even remotely come close to having that kind of the success out of the pistol running the ball. I'm excited to see your video and see how it's done. I've just always felt like the play is slow in developing no matter what the call is from simple dives to tosses to read options. I would love to put more pistol in my playbook because Arkansas uses it more and more each year but I can never get it to work like my under center stuff.


Question G, what position on D did the user control? When I play against my Bro-in-law and I try to use even a One Back playbook, he will blow most of the plays up in the backfield with a MLB by just shooting gaps at the snap. The shotgun offenses are really tough to run against a user that is good with the MLB in my experiences this year.Here's the video:
http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/forums/showthread.php?3332-gschwendt-s-NCAA12-Highlight-Videos&p=138307&viewfull=1#post138307

One thing to note, my longest run (72 yards) was actually out of Shotgun Split Offset. Obviously that reduces the yardage but I'd certainly say I still had good success out of the Pistol formations.

souljahbill
05-15-2012, 09:46 PM
I will never understand how you guys play taking control of your defenders. You guys miss so many tackles that turn 5-yd gains into 50-yd gains.

xMrHitStickx904
05-17-2012, 08:35 AM
I will never understand how you guys play taking control of your defenders. You guys miss so many tackles that turn 5-yd gains into 50-yd gains.

I use my safety at all times, then click on to make a tackle. Became easy over the years.

ryby6969
05-17-2012, 08:46 AM
The only time that causes me to miss a tackle is when it switches me to a guy who I am not expecting to get or the lag is kind of bad.

Deuce
05-17-2012, 08:50 AM
I use my safety at all times, then click on to make a tackle. Became easy over the years.

:+1:

I use my safety at all times but only switch when there is no way for me to get involved in the play. Most of the time I 'player lock' w/o using player lock.

I used player lock for an entire season but could never get used to it.


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Kwizzy
05-17-2012, 08:57 AM
Man, the run fits are so bad that there is no way I could sit back at safety and let my CPU guys try to make a stop.

Deuce
05-17-2012, 09:02 AM
Most of the time my FS is the leading tackler. I play close to the line...I do give up the long ball a little too often though.


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Marlowe
05-17-2012, 12:32 PM
I will never understand how you guys play taking control of your defenders. You guys miss so many tackles that turn 5-yd gains into 50-yd gains.

You don't even need to have good user skills anymore since ea added the defensive assist. Theres really no reason anymore to not user a defensive player, especially with how effective stripping the ball was in this last version.

ram29jackson
05-17-2012, 01:05 PM
does the game feel or move any different really ?

the last 2 years have been an over all improvement but it still feels very basic and very stick figure-ish.

In Madden, I trust the players to do what i expect to a degree,they seem more solid..linemen make tackles in madden...in NCAA, they all seem so paper thin and linemen feel useless.

NCAA just seems like cardboard while Madden is more of a hard plastic or rubber..if you get my meaning LOL

ram29jackson
07-05-2012, 05:05 PM
just seeing if there will be a compare /contrast from these initial thoughts

JeffHCross
07-05-2012, 09:05 PM
I play on the D-line, then click on to make the tackle at the end of the play. I've found that if I play in the defensive backfield at the snap, more often than not I overpursue or otherwise draw myself out of the play.

Kingpin32
07-05-2012, 09:10 PM
I play on the D-line, then click on to make the tackle at the end of the play. I've found that if I play in the defensive backfield at the snap, more often than not I overpursue or otherwise draw myself out of the play.
I found that if I switch to the person nearest the ball when the ball is in the air, I always get stuck in performing a D-Line move, but instead of it being the D-Lineman, it's the CB performing a hit stick at the air.

souljahbill
07-06-2012, 07:52 AM
So, I just played Heisman Challenge for the hell of it. In the game I played, I was 26-37 for 412 yds with 3 passing TDs and 1 rushing TD. Awesome game, right? Well no. Why?

Because I put RGIII on Oregon.

If I'm on Oregon's team, why am I throwing 37 times and rushing 3 times (twice only because I changed the play)?

JeffHCross
07-06-2012, 07:18 PM
If I'm on Oregon's team, why am I throwing 37 times and rushing 3 times (twice only because I changed the play)?If I had to guess: the team did say that RTG this year was going to put an emphasis on the Player. So a running back will get more running plays, no matter the offense you choose. I said more, but I have no idea if that means slightly more, drastically more, etc. My guess is that since RGIII is a quarterback, they gave him pass plays, even though he'd fit in a running QB offense.

souljahbill
07-06-2012, 07:48 PM
If I had to guess: the team did say that RTG this year was going to put an emphasis on the Player. So a running back will get more running plays, no matter the offense you choose. I said more, but I have no idea if that means slightly more, drastically more, etc. My guess is that since RGIII is a quarterback, they gave him pass plays, even though he'd fit in a running QB offense.

It was really a rhetorical question. I knew that was why I threw so much but thanks for replying. If I want to be a Dennis Dixon or a Tommy Frazier type of player, I can't because I'll be chucking it all game.