NCAA Football 13 and Former Heisman Winners

[gschwendt]

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Since February 1st, six different pictures have surfaced on twitter relating NCAA Football 13 and former Heisman winners. Players including Eddie George, Barry Sanders, Marcus Allen, Mark Ingram, and Archie Griffin have come up with either pictures of themselves with the Heisman Trophy or in photos that appear to be taken on a set. The latest (seen above) is of Griffin sitting in front of an NCAA Football 13 backdrop.

These pictures come from the Twitter accounts of Sanders and also Sandy Sandoval, Senior Director of Athlete Relations for EA Sports. Of course it's not uncommon to see photos of Sandoval with various athletes given his job duties, however these images have surfaced with descriptions tying them to NCAA Football 13.

Continue on to see the images as well as links to the tweets they were pulled from and let us know what you think this might mean for the next version of NCAA Football.

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@eddiegeorge27. Yes sir.
https://twitter.com/#!/sandysandovalEA/status/164742504728625154/photo/1
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On set with 95 Heisman winner Eddie George. EA Sports NCAA College football 13'
https://twitter.com/#!/sandysandovalEA/status/164720300896960512/photo/1

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Me and the @HeismanTrophy at the EA NCAA 2013 shoot - never get tired of that pose!!!
https://twitter.com/#!/BarrySanders/status/166626439649705986/photo/1

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Me and @MarcusAllenHOF at the EA NCAA 2013 shoot...
https://twitter.com/#!/BarrySanders/status/166625804061655040/photo/1

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At EA Sports NCAA 2013 shoot with @Mark_Ingram28 and @sandysandovalEA
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On set with the greatest Heisman winner of all time, Archie Griffin. The only 2 time Heisman winner.
https://twitter.com/#!/sandysandovalEA/status/170173510919012352/photo/1

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With my boyhood idle. From Eastside San Jose. My hood! Should be in Pro Football HOF. #16 Jim Plunkett
https://twitter.com/#!/sandysandovalEA/status/170291580211691520


I'm in San Diego doing a shoot for EASports with some other Heisman guys. (no image)
https://twitter.com/#!/DesmondHoward/status/170198311914049536

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[jaymo76]

Fingers crossed on a return of the Heisman Ceremony trophy presentation.

[JeffHCross]

Jim Plunkett was posted after you put this up.

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[JeffHCross]

If the world revolved around Jeff, this would mean:

The return of historical teams, with most-accurate ratings
Old school playbooks, with the ability to use those plays in Created Playbooks
Commemorative Archie and Eddie covers
Downloadable backgrounds and/or PS3 themes for Archie and Eddie
The ability to play "Hang On Sloopy" on demand during any Online game


In reality, it's more likely the return of the Heisman ceremony, plus, possibly, an enhancement to the Road to Glory to give it more of a "Road to the Heisman" feel.

[gschwendt]

Jim Plunkett was posted after you put this up.Thank you sir.

[JeffHCross]

Thank you sir.Once in a while I'm good for something ;)

[psuexv]

Once in a while I'm good for something ;)

:+1:

[JBHuskers]

Every once in a while TGT has a TMZ side :D

[Original1990]

I would like to see the heisman presentation again. Also with the running backs like Eddie George and Barry Sanders there might be a change with the running engine. Like making the cut moves back to the LB/RB and L1/R1 and using the juke with the right stick. I guess time will tell.

[champ195797]

I think this means there will be a greatest mode

[ram29jackson]

they better bring in historic teams again, would be interesting on this gen/console to see those 1930s teams etc...all this just to promote a 10 second Heisman ceremony thats incredibly anti climactic after seeing it once would be a major let down..and this better not destroy RG III's chance to get on the cover

[SmoothPancakes]

I'd much rather have D-IAA teams back than historical teams.

[ram29jackson]

I'd much rather have D-IAA teams back than historical teams.

yeah....if they can make a hockey and soccer game full of teams that no one ever plays with,why cant they do the same with this game..i'm not being mean, just saying that in the hockey game,theres teams i'll probably never touch

[ram29jackson]

....where's Cappelletti......

[jaymo76]

I'd much rather have D-IAA teams back than historical teams.

+10000000000

[SmoothPancakes]

yeah....if they can make a hockey and soccer game full of teams that no one ever plays with,why cant they do the same with this game..i'm not being mean, just saying that in the hockey game,theres teams i'll probably never touch

:fp: First, I can guarantee there are a bunch of people who would play with those teams, especially fans/students of those schools. Same thing with teams in the hockey and soccer games. I can absolutely guarantee that every team in the NHL and FIFA series are being played with by a bunch of people, fans of those teams and people who choose to randomly use those teams. Look at me. I did not know a single thing about FIU as of last June. Then I decided to randomly use them as my team for my CC dynasty, and now I'm a fan of the FIU program. Just because you may never use FIU in NCAA, doesn't mean there aren't others of us who are.

Just because you'll personally never touch them, doesn't mean that no one else will. Hell, I'd love to do a dynasty with a non-created/team builder DI-AA team. Same thing with soccer. I love to pick some random teams and play matches with them, try to build them up or use them as a career stepping stone, similar to what :sf: is doing in his FIFA manager career.

Now, are there people who would use historical teams? Sure, you alone have already proven that. But I'm going to venture a guess, and this is just a personal guess by me, I have no data to back this up, that there are at least double the amount of people who want and would play with DI-AA teams than with historical teams. Just because you would never use them, doesn't mean they don't deserve to be implemented into the game.

[steelerfan]

Agreed, Smooth.

What ram miserably fails to realize is that NHL and FIFA are globally popular. Just because you don't use teams from Sweden or Korea or wherever, you have to realize that there are people in those countries who do.

Hell, on FIFA 12, I've used team's from Portugal, Germany, and England in my Career Mode.

If NHL had a deeper mode than Season Mode for the foreign teams, I'd use them too.

I also agree that FCS schools would get much more use than historic teams. ram just wants the old uniforms and equipment, which is understandable. He enjoys his virtual paperdolls and playing dress up with them. To each, his own.

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[SmoothPancakes]

Agreed, Smooth.

What ram miserably fails to realize is that NHL and FIFA are globally popular. Just because you don't use teams from Sweden or Korea or wherever, you have to realize that there are people in those countries who do.

Hell, on FIFA 12, I've used team's from Portugal, Germany, and England in my Career Mode.

If NHL had a deeper mode than Season Mode for the foreign teams, I'd use them too.

I also agree that FCS schools would get much more use than historic teams. ram just wants the old uniforms and equipment, which is understandable. He enjoys his virtual paperdolls and playing dress up with them. To each, his own.

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Yep. NHL and FIFA are HUGE around with world, so you can guarantee that every team, in every league, in both games are getting used and games played with. While I've only owned FIFA 10 for my soccer/FIFA gaming career, I love to play with different teams and different leagues. Keeps things fresh, changes things up, making things interesting.

With NHL, agreed, I'd be using a bunch more teams if they had something deeper than Season Mode for those teams. Start off playing with some foreign teams in Europe, move onto Russian teams, maybe then make my way to the NHL, stuff like that. It'd be awesome.

:D Well, while I know there are people out there like ram who do want historical teams, nationally, there is no doubt that FCS schools are more wanted by people than historical teams. Both have something they can bring to the game, but FCS schools are by far more needed than historical teams at this point and time in the game and series.

[jaymo76]

For me I love the idea of seeing (at least some) of the FCS programmes in the game for 13, though I truly don't expect it to happen. Whether playing against the teams, importing them through teambuilder into FCS generics, or actually having a FCS league/playoff, every scenerio adds to the depth of this game. For me historical teams do NOTHING. I would not use them/play against them. Yes, I would love to see the old school unis but other than that... zero appeal. FCS however, would actually be used in the most important mode... dynasty. FCS hands down!!!

[ram29jackson]

ok guys,take a breather...I didnt poopoo the idea.. I merely said that if they can add so many teams to the other games,than they should be able to add to NCAA, that wasnt knocking anything,stop jumping to the negative with that stupid facepalm smiley everytime...I said there are teams I dont use, just like there alot of the base 120+ teams that people dont use its a fact..there are some guys so religious,they only use their teams LOL...i'm one of the few that will start a game with every team to look at every stadium etc and look at little details whether real or fictionalized...now stop having your hissyfits :D

[ram29jackson]

Well, while I know there are people out there like ram who do want historical teams, nationally, there is no doubt that FCS schools are more wanted by people than historical teams. Both have something they can bring to the game, but FCS schools are by far more needed than historical teams at this point and time in the game and series.

:D personal opinion/bullshit

[steelerfan]

Here you go, ram. Print and have fun!

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[ram29jackson]

Here you go, ram. Print and have fun!

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just because youre not creative as me, thats no reason to be jealous :D

[jaymo76]

:D That is pretty damn funny! Well played Steeler.

[SmoothPancakes]

:D That is pretty damn funny! Well played Steeler.

Agreed. :D

[JeffHCross]

What ram miserably fails to realize is that NHL and FIFA are globally popular. Just because you don't use teams from Sweden or Korea or wherever, you have to realize that there are people in those countries who do.I'm still kind-of reeling from my single experience of NHL with Online Team Play and hearing our opponents talk in a language I didn't recognize.


:D Well, while I know there are people out there like ram who do want historical teams, nationally, there is no doubt that FCS schools are more wanted by people than historical teams. Both have something they can bring to the game, but FCS schools are by far more needed than historical teams at this point and time in the game and series.I agree ... with a caveat. If FCS teams weren't integrated into Dynasty and they were solely introducing teams for Play Now or Online usage, then I think Historical teams have more value. I think there are plenty of guys that have the nostalgic kick like I do. Though, unlike Ram, it's not the teams from the 30s that I'd be looking for. But yes, if you're talking about integrating with Dynasty mode, obviously FCS is a higher request.

As for "why does FIFA and NHL have all these teams but NCAA can't" and that discussion ... one possible (and simple) explanation is roster sizes. I don't know that I believe that's necessarily the real reason, but it's certainly a potential one. 70 man rosters are a big memory footprint.

[SmoothPancakes]

I'm still kind-of reeling from my single experience of NHL with Online Team Play and hearing our opponents talk in a language I didn't recognize.

I agree ... with a caveat. If FCS teams weren't integrated into Dynasty and they were solely introducing teams for Play Now or Online usage, then I think Historical teams have more value. I think there are plenty of guys that have the nostalgic kick like I do. Though, unlike Ram, it's not the teams from the 30s that I'd be looking for. But yes, if you're talking about integrating with Dynasty mode, obviously FCS is a higher request.

As for "why does FIFA and NHL have all these teams but NCAA can't" and that discussion ... one possible (and simple) explanation is roster sizes. I don't know that I believe that's necessarily the real reason, but it's certainly a potential one. 70 man rosters are a big memory footprint.

Yeah, I mean historical teams definitely have their own group of people who want them and would definitely use them. But when I speak of FCS teams, as you said, I'm personally speaking from a dynasty aspect. While they may get some use in Play Now, dynasty definitely would be the area that they would get the most use. Both FCS and historical teams deserve their places on the game, but for me personally, FCS teams, from a dynasty aspect, need to be in the most.

And I'd have to agree with that. Hockey and soccer teams only have so many players on their rosters. Hockey, if I remember right, is a max of 23 players on a team. Soccer, off the top of my head I don't know if there are any set limits (at least world wide) but there's only 16 players on a roster for a match with the 11 on the pitch and 5 on the bench. So comparing hockey and soccer (with limited rosters) to NCAA, with 70 players on a team, it's easy to see why the NHL and FIFA series have so many teams, where as we only have the 120 from the FBS right now. Now, they have managed FBS and FCS back in the old days, so it is possible. The exact reason why haven't seen FCS teams return, who knows. But memory/disc space could indeed be part of the issue.

[baseballplyrmvp]

The exact reason why haven't seen FCS teams return, who knows. But roster space could indeed be part of the issue.then someone slap one of the ea guys upside the head and tell em to make the fcs teams available by dlc. it doesnt have to be premium, but it could work exactly like their online pass- have a code within the game box that lets you download em for free. otherwise, $5 for all of em.

[steelerfan]

Actually, on FIFA, the roster limit is 42 (not including Youth Squads).

And, for the record, the Match Day rosters are set at 18, not 16.

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[SmoothPancakes]

Actually, on FIFA, the roster limit is 42 (not including Youth Squads).

And, for the record, the Match Day rosters are set at 18, not 16.

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There we go, got the official record from :sf: himself. :D While I like and follow soccer, there is still much about it that I don't know, so thanks for setting the numbers straight.

[steelerfan]

There we go, got the official record from :sf: himself. :D While I like and follow soccer, there is still much about it that I don't know, so thanks for setting the numbers straight.

My point is, there must be around 2x the players in FIFA as there are in NCAA. FIFA has 29 leagues which range from 10 to 24 teams. Even if we say average league has 14 teams, that's 406 teams. Add in 12 "Rest of the World" teams, and 42 national squads, and you're at 460.

Conservatively, if we say each club has 28 players, that's 12,880 players.

NCAA would have around 8400, to compare.

Now add in 460 teams worth of uniforms (2 or 3 per team), and it would look like NCAA is coming up way short.

However, NCAA has approximately 3x the number of stadiums that FIFA has and, I believe, that is the big space eater (thanks, again, M$ for using DVD).

Edit: there appears to be 510 league teams in FIFA 12 which makes the grand total in the neighborhood of 564.

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[ryby6969]

The problem with historical teams is they will be basically useless if the historic offense's are not also included. Who the hell would want to use a team from the 30's and not have the Wing-T or another of the comparable offenses? I would feel dirty using a spread offense with some of the historic teams people would want to see.

[ram29jackson]

The problem with historical teams is they will be basically useless if the historic offense's are not also included. Who the hell would want to use a team from the 30's and not have the Wing-T or another of the comparable offenses? I would feel dirty using a spread offense with some of the historic teams people would want to see.

you cant have it all LOL, just use a alot of pro sets and enjoy the artwork of the players..i didnt really push 1930s anyway..at least give me some 50s through 70s stuff..but the fact is,they did try it on old gen and it wasnt bad..except that the players were cut out bigger it appeared for some reason ?

but if the design art guys can challenge themselves with leather helmets etc,that would be cool :)

[JeffHCross]

However, NCAA has approximately 3x the number of stadiums that FIFA has and, I believe, that is the big space eater (thanks, again, M$ for using DVD).FWIW, when I was talking about memory, I was not talking about disc size. I was talking about the roster database (which, depending on the implementation, may be "always" stored in RAM memory). That may or may not be a factor, I was just throwing it out there as a possibility.


But when I speak of FCS teams, as you said, I'm personally speaking from a dynasty aspect. While they may get some use in Play Now, dynasty definitely would be the area that they would get the most use.Yep, I knew you were. And then, in my opinion, it becomes a question of investment vs reward. FCS isn't likely to be a game seller, even for current FCS students (but you never know). So then it becomes a question of how much Dynasty re-tooling would be necessary for, potentially, little return.

But, of course, this is all just a theoretical exercise :)

[Treadstone6700]

If this is for some 'greatest games' type mode like NBA 2K I would not be pleased. 2K was able to expand into things like that because their gameplay was tight and their association mode was great.NCAA needs to tighten up the gameplay and revamp dynasty/recruiting before wasting space on historical teams/players/etc imo

[JeffHCross]

Keep in mind guys, the only reason I mentioned historical teams is that is because that's what I would want it to mean. But, as you all know, I'm just a major nostalgic nut when it comes to college football. Don't take it to be a prediction of any kind :D

[xMrHitStickx904]

As far as that goes, I think FCS teams can be implemented properly. They were on PS2 & PSP even though graphically, the game wasn't as advanced as it is now. That could have something to with it too. But at any rate, I rather have FCS teams in '13 over historical teams.

[JeffHCross]

As far as that goes, I think FCS teams can be implemented properly. They were on PS2 & PSPFrom what I could tell, the rosters on the PS2 weren't updated after the teams were initially introduced. I know Appalachian State was off, which was particularly annoying during their championship run.

[Escobar]

From what I could tell, the rosters on the PS2 weren't updated after the teams were initially introduced. I know Appalachian State was off, which was particularly annoying during their championship run.

They were always a year or two behind.