First commit of my 7th recruiting class

[keyser soze]

And he looks like a GOOD one! What do you guys think?

Cool name = Brock Lester
Position rank = #1
OVR rank = #15
Stars = 5
height = 6'1" (good height but I like 6'2" if possible)
from = CA (pipeline state and for some reason I get far more talent from here then FL or TX)
SPD = A+
AGI = B+
ACC = A
JMP = B+
STA = B+
INJ = B
PLAY REC = B
MAN COV = B
ZONE COV = B+
PRESS = B-

If this kid was 6'2" I would declare him best CB I have ever recruited right now. However, with his 6'1" height combined with only a B man coverage rating, I am not sure he will get the picks that Washington and Corbett got for me. Either way, this kid gets a jersey number less then 20 for sure because he will be good!

[keyser soze]

Wow, through 5 weeks of my 6th season (7th recruiting class) and I am cleaning up in a way that I have never done before. I went with a new strategy this year only putting 10 guys on my list at a time and throwing 1 hour per player every week. At the end of the 5th week I had all 10 guys SIGNED?!?!?! Now I only recruited guys who had me in their top 3 but wow, 10 for 10 is AMAZING. This class had the most depth/talent at the DB position that I have ever seen and I landed all 4 of the freaks that I was going for (3 of them my OD buddy was also recruiting so I cleaned house here) and I beat him out for the only 5-star DT in the country who had his team at #1 to start the season.

So through 5 weeks I have managed to land the following with their respective position rank listed:
1-QB
1-DT
1-CB
1-FS
1-DE
2-DE
2-G
2-ATH (going to be a CB)
5-T
5-CB

Not sure who else I will get being that I trail on most everyone but who cares. If I can land the top 10 guys every year and then a handful in the post season my team will go from great to truly awesome. The days of guys getting PT who are not in the single digits in rank at their position might be over! LOL

Has anyone else had this type of success getting 10 for 10 in recruiting?

[JeffHCross]

wow, 10 for 10 is AMAZING.The distinct problem with this strategy is that usually, usually, you're not going to be able to get anyone outside that Top 10 in-season, since you've spent 5 weeks giving them nothing. So if you take a conservative guess at getting 3 per off-season, you're talking about a 52 man roster after 4 years. That's problematic from a depth perspective.

I've not gotten 10 for 10, but I've gotten pretty good hit percentages on the guys I target. But I'm generally more conservative about who I'll target, especially in ODs.

[keyser soze]

The distinct problem with this strategy is that usually, usually, you're not going to be able to get anyone outside that Top 10 in-season, since you've spent 5 weeks giving them nothing. So if you take a conservative guess at getting 3 per off-season, you're talking about a 52 man roster after 4 years. That's problematic from a depth perspective.

I've not gotten 10 for 10, but I've gotten pretty good hit percentages on the guys I target. But I'm generally more conservative about who I'll target, especially in ODs.

You get 3 per off-season? What difficulty are you recruiting on Jeff? We are on AA and it is EASY to land more then 3 in the off-season... too easy in fact.

I hear you though on the 10 and only 10. I will let you know if I get anyone else. I am pretty sure I will at least get 1 more 5-star ATH. This game is STUPID in the fact that there are so many 5-star ATH that you can wait till week 6 to even start recruiting them.

[keyser soze]

What is weird is that we are in season 7 and my team is pretty redonkulously great while my OD buddy is struggling with most of his games coming down to a single score in the 4th quarter.... Not even sure what to make of that being that he has out recruited me through the years.... one thing he doesn't bother doing is red shirting his players. I wonder if that could make such a huge difference.

[steelerfan]

If you don't redshirt players, and they don't play at all, they are automatically redshirted.

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[keyser soze]

If you don't redshirt players, and they don't play at all, they are automatically redshirted.

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right, but they have a tendency to end up on special teams or subbed into games against teams that run a ton of no-huddle and tire out your entire defense. if your D gets stuck on the field for a 14 play drive against a no huddle team you can end up with WR's in the freaking game playing DB because everyone is so tired.

[steelerfan]

Well, if he's recruiting so well, I'd think he's still got some guys deep enough that they're redshirting.

Anyway, why would anyone not redshirt their players? That's just lazy and foolish.

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[keyser soze]

Well, if he's recruiting so well, I'd think he's still got some guys deep enough that they're redshirting.

Anyway, why would anyone not redshirt their players? That's just lazy and foolish.


this - tried to BOLD and increase size of word lazy but it refuses to do so... he is lazy

[steelerfan]

Lol. Gotcha.

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[keyser soze]

The distinct problem with this strategy is that usually, usually, you're not going to be able to get anyone outside that Top 10 in-season, since you've spent 5 weeks giving them nothing. So if you take a conservative guess at getting 3 per off-season, you're talking about a 52 man roster after 4 years. That's problematic from a depth perspective.

I've not gotten 10 for 10, but I've gotten pretty good hit percentages on the guys I target. But I'm generally more conservative about who I'll target, especially in ODs.

I landed my 11th recruit and it does look like I will get 1 or 2 more for sure in the season recruiting. It is STUPID how late in the game you can go after 5-star WRs and ATHs and land them. I am going to get one of them in a RUN AWAY as I am the only team recruiting them!?!?!?! Add to that fact that the #2 team behind me is some HORRIBLE school with D ratings across the board and there is almost 0% chance of me not getting him with virtually no effort....

Decided to load up my board with 3-star TEs out of pipeline states. Not sure if I will get any of them as it is so late but what the heck, I like to run a double or triple TE set every now and then on short down and distance situations. I just need bodies and if I land a lot, I can throw them at FB position.

[keyser soze]

Oh, and that 11th recruit was an OLB and he was a top 150. The ATH I am going to get is top 150 as well being that he is a 5-star. That means I will have at least 12 top 150 guys! Pretty good.

[keyser soze]

Just visited EA's page, my commish advanced it last night and I landed another 4-star OLB (outside top 150) Looking at the interest of the guys left I am going to land 2 more top 150 guys for sure (already soft verballed to me with no interest from anyone else) and I have a shot at stealing the #3 WR in the country who is soft verballed to LSU. I have already had him in, I trail by 1 point but my hunch is that I have very little shot at this point. So I will end up with 13 or 14 top 150 guys, 1 4-star OLB outside the top 150 and then a handful of 3-star TEs.

[morsdraconis]

That's just the ridiculousness of recruiting with a :5star: or :6star: prestige team. It's like cheating with how ridiculously easy it is to recruit in this game.

[Pig Bomb]

That's just the ridiculousness of recruiting with a :5star: or :6star: prestige team. It's like cheating with how ridiculously easy it is to recruit in this game.

indeed...all the leagues i play in have recruiting restrictions added ... it helps spread the talent around [including to the CPU teams so the humans have better teams to play against]

[keyser soze]

Well in real life Urban Meyer has successfully recruited (4) 5-star kids in the past week in real life!!! I hear you though, the CPU is STUPID about not offering scholarships to some guys. All 5-star guys should have a LOT of scholarships EARLY in the season. It is stupid how many guys you can find that are being COMPLETELY ignored half way through their SR season... just stupid!

On a side note, I have NEVER had this kind of success recruiting in the game this year. I don't know if its tied to my SRs leaving or what, but I have never had interest like this before.

[JeffHCross]

You get 3 per off-season? What difficulty are you recruiting on Jeff? We are on AA and it is EASY to land more then 3 in the off-season... too easy in fact.Well, I was being intentionally conservative in that guess at 3 per year. And if you're in a competitive OD (i.e. the Powerhouse OD that's been my only Dynasty experience since NCAA 10), I think 3 is a good guess. I went through several seasons where I didn't get any of my targets, though I usually went into the offseason with no one left on my board. So I was talking about 3 offseason-only recruits, not including guys that you may still have going into the offseason.


I landed my 11th recruit and it does look like I will get 1 or 2 more for sure in the season recruiting. It is STUPID how late in the game you can go after 5-star WRs and ATHs and land them. I am going to get one of them in a RUN AWAY as I am the only team recruiting them!?!?!?!Well, similar to the above, I was assuming a competitive OD where all the top guys are likely to be targeted. If the guys you're going up against aren't competing for the types of player you recruit, or, worse, are just not able to compete with you in recruiting time/commitment/ability, then yeah, it's pretty easy to roll.


I hear you though, the CPU is STUPID about not offering scholarships to some guys. All 5-star guys should have a LOT of scholarships EARLY in the season. It is stupid how many guys you can find that are being COMPLETELY ignored half way through their SR season... just stupid!Well ... I can't speak much about NCAA 12, but I learned the hard way on NCAA 10 and NCAA 11 that sometimes there's a reason the CPU is ignoring those 5-stars. I got some total duds that were being ignored by the CPUs, and there was a reason. Not usually 5-star players, but sometimes. Just be wary. There might be a reason the CPU is ignoring them.

[WarEagle]

Well ... I can't speak much about NCAA 12, but I learned the hard way on NCAA 10 and NCAA 11 that sometimes there's a reason the CPU is ignoring those 5-stars. I got some total duds that were being ignored by the CPUs, and there was a reason. Not usually 5-star players, but sometimes. Just be wary. There might be a reason the CPU is ignoring them.
Agreed. I use that PocketScout program (creates spreadsheet w/ ALL categories numbered instead of letter grades) which allows me to recruit 'characteristics' instead of OVR and as I set up my board off the produced spreadsheet from the program, I'll bypass many, many top-150 guys b/c I can see they're just duds. A DT w/ TAK and PMV ratings in the low-70s? Of no use to my 6* SEC program. Getting ready to resurrect a UCLA dynasty so those guys won't be ignored....but only in the early seasons (I hope).

[keyser soze]

we started recruiting our 8th class and there is an ATH who will be a CB who is 6'5" tall!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! got to have him.

[keyser soze]

Quintin Rucker
6'5"
#9 rated recruit overall

SpeedA
StrengthD-
AgilityB-
AwarenessD-
StaminaB-
InjuryB
Rushing
Break TackleD-
Ball Carrier VisionD
Blocking
Pass BlockD-
Run BlockD-
Receiving
CatchingC
Catch in TrafficD
Route RunningD+
Tackling
TackleD-
Hit PowerB
PursuitC+
Play RecognitionB
Block Shedding
Block SheddingD
Coverage
Man CoverageB
Zone CoverageB

with his height i think he might be the greatest cb ever BY FAR!

what do you all think?

[baseballplyrmvp]

wow.....what's his press rating? if it sucks, maybe look at him playing safety? otherwise, ya, he should be a legend for ya.

[keyser soze]

wow.....what's his press rating? if it sucks, maybe look at him playing safety? otherwise, ya, he should be a legend for ya.

it doesnt say but i agree that if he can press at all i agree he is total beast. i have never even seen a 6'4" cb before so 6'5" might be total shutdown mode

[keyser soze]

looks like i will probably lose that CB to my buddy... take a look at the #1 WR recruit this year that has me #1 right now!

Brandon Cunningham
height = 6'4"


Base
SpeedA
AgilityC+
JumpingB-
AwarenessD
StaminaB+
InjuryB
Rushing
Break TackleD-
ElusivenessD-
Stiff ArmD-
Spin MoveD
Juke MoveC
CarryingB-
Receiving
CatchingC+
Spectacular CatchC-
Catch in TrafficC-
Route RunningB+
ReleaseC+

Dude might get the #1 jersey early!

[Escobar]

That 6'5" ATH would be a perfect SS in the 4-2-5, think Patrick Peterson or Tyrann Mathieu style of play, coming off the edge and blitzing or shutting down someone in coverage.

[keyser soze]

That 6'5" ATH would be a perfect SS in the 4-2-5, think Patrick Peterson or Tyrann Mathieu style of play, coming off the edge and blitzing or shutting down someone in coverage.

i lost him to notre dame... he got a times and jumped me on a couple of guys... oh well

[WarEagle]

I dunno. A SS with D- tackle??? I don't recruit SSs in that range, regardless of speed.
To be honest, I think the ATH would've been a good CB for you, not a beast. He had the speed to stay with WRs but you didn't list his ACC. His best catch rating was a C which will translate into a low-70s number, so he wasn't going to be a ball-hawk for you.
His coverage ##s were nice but they will translate to around 80 for both Man and Zone. If his ACC isn't equal to his SPD, it'll affect his Man coverage. Even with a solid B or higher PRS rating, those numbers aren't 'shut down' figures (especially if ACC is B or lower).
Lastly, I do like his PRC (~80) but his PUR (~77) isn't top notch.
Don't get me wrong. I would've taken him in a heart beat. I just don't think I'd have been building a secondary around him. Just my opinion...

[keyser soze]

here is the 6'5" CB who is redshirting this year... he is going to be SICK!

CB
Height: 6'5"
Weight: 177 lbs
Hometown: Boaz, AL
ratings
statistics
Base
Speed96
Strength59
Agility80
Acceleration90
Jumping87
Awareness52
Stamina82
Injury84
Rushing
Break Tackle45
Trucking31
Elusiveness52
Stiff Arm36
Spin Move15
Juke Move53
Carrying60
Ball Carrier Vision65
Blocking
Pass Block40
Run Block40
Pass Block Strength15
Pass Block Footwork20
Run Block Footwork17
Run Block Foot Strength32
Impact Blocking32
Receiving
Catching74
Spectacular Catch78
Catch in Traffic61
Route Running66
Release75
Tackling
Tackle59
Hit Power84
Pursuit78
Play Recognition85
Block Shedding
Power Moves52
Finesse Moves52
Block Shedding65
Coverage
Man Coverage87
Zone Coverage84
Press87
Passing
Throw Power45
Throw Accuracy40
Special Teams
Kick Power40
Kick Accuracy46
Return56

[Razorjeff]

In my offline dynasty I have recruiting set at Heisman, and it seems perfect as far as giving me a recruiting class ranking relative to my program's ranking. I'm playing as U. of Washington and my recruiting classes have been from the high 20's to the 40's over the past three seasons. I still haven't come close to signing a 5-star player.

I'm about to start my fourth season in a few days and have thought for a while about doing the same thing you did - listing only 10 recruits on my board. This way, I pour in an hour a week to each guy until they sign (or I give up on them). If I drop a guy, then I'll go back to the pool and select another recruit - this time probably just a 1 or 2 star kid to help with depth or developing pipelines.

Realistically, if I can land one 5-star, three or four 4-stars, and several 3-stars in addition to a couple of pipeline depth kids, that should give me a decent class until my prestige goes up.