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bdoughty
11-27-2011, 08:44 AM
Thursday, December 1
8:00 PM ET West Virginia at South Florida

Friday, December 2
7:00 PM ET Ohio vs. Northern Illinois (MAC Championship Game)
8:00 PM ET UCLA at Oregon (Oregon's Championship Game)

Saturday, December 3
12:00 PM ET Southern Miss at Houston (CUSA Championship Game)
12:00 PM ET Syracuse at Pittsburgh
12:00 PM ET Connecticut at Cincinnati
12:30 PM ET Iowa State at Kansas State
2:00 PM ET Wyoming at Colorado State
2:30 PM ET UNLV at TCU
3:30 PM ET Texas at Baylor
3:30 PM ET Utah State at New Mexico State
4:00 PM ET Georgia vs. LSU (SEC Championship Game)
4:00 PM ET Louisiana-Monroe at Florida Atlantic
4:00 PM ET Middle Tennessee at North Texas
4:05 PM ET Idaho at Nevada
4:30 PM ET Troy at Arkansas State
6:00 PM ET New Mexico at Boise State
7:30 PM ET Brigham Young at Hawaii
8:00 PM ET Oklahoma at Oklahoma State (BIG 12 Championship Game - theoretically)
8:00 PM ET Virginia Tech vs. Clemson (ACC Championship Game)
8:00 PM ET Fresno State at San Diego State
8:17 PM ET Wisconsin vs. Michigan State (BIG TEN Championship Game)



BCS Standings
RK TEAM RECORD
1 LSU 12-0
2 Alabama 11-1
3 Oklahoma State 10-1
4 Stanford 11-1
5 Virginia Tech 11-1
6 Houston 12-0
7 Boise State 10-1
8 Arkansas 10-2
9 Oregon 10-2
10 Oklahoma 9-2
11 Kansas State 9-2
12 South Carolina 10-2
13 Michigan State 10-2
14 Georgia 10-2
15 Wisconsin 10-2
16 Michigan 10-2
17 Baylor 8-3
18 TCU 9-2
19 Nebraska 9-3
20 Clemson 9-3
21 Penn State 9-3
22 Texas 7-4
23 West Virginia 8-3
24 Southern Miss 10-2
25 Missouri 7-5


AP Top 25
RK TEAM RECORD PTS
1 LSU (60) 12-0 1500
2 Alabama 11-1 1440
3 Oklahoma State 10-1 1286
4 Stanford 11-1 1281
5 Virginia Tech 11-1 1196
6 Arkansas 10-2 1060
7 Houston 12-0 1055
8 Oregon 10-2 1054
9 Boise State 10-1 1053
9 USC 10-2 1053
11 Michigan State 10-2 866
12 Georgia 10-2 825
13 Oklahoma 9-2 808
14 South Carolina 10-2 796
15 Wisconsin 10-2 749
16 Kansas State 9-2 658
17 Michigan 10-2 570
18 TCU 9-2 488
19 Baylor 8-3 468
20 Nebraska 9-3 352
21 Clemson 9-3 258
22 West Virginia 8-3 196
23 Penn State 9-3 151
24 Southern Miss 10-2 78
25 Florida State 8-4 58

Dropped from rankings: Notre Dame 22, Virginia 24, Georgia Tech 25

Others receiving votes: Notre Dame 53, Texas 45, Cincinnati 23, Arkansas State 18, Georgia Tech 16, Brigham Young 13, Missouri 13, Virginia 9, Tulsa 7, Louisville 3, Northern Illinois 1


USA Today Poll
RK TEAM RECORD PTS
1 LSU (59) 12-0 1475
2 Alabama 11-1 1411
3 Virginia Tech 11-1 1291
4 Stanford 11-1 1289
5 Oklahoma State 10-1 1245
6 Houston 12-0 1096
7 Oregon 10-2 1041
8 Boise State 10-1 1033
9 Michigan State 10-2 941
10 Arkansas 10-2 937
11 Oklahoma 9-2 882
12 Wisconsin 10-2 852
13 South Carolina 10-2 833
14 Georgia 10-2 816
15 Kansas State 9-2 681
16 Michigan 10-2 658
17 TCU 9-2 534
18 Baylor 8-3 457
19 Nebraska 9-3 390
20 West Virginia 8-3 295
21 Clemson 9-3 286
22 Penn State 9-3 192
23 Southern Miss 10-2 173
24 Florida State 8-4 86
25 Cincinnati 8-3 56

Dropped from rankings: Georgia Tech 21, Notre Dame 24, Virginia 25

Others receiving votes: Texas 51, Georgia Tech 42, Brigham Young 29, Notre Dame 29, Northern Illinois 19, Missouri 16, Arkansas State 13, Ohio 8, Virginia 8, Rutgers 6, Louisiana Tech 4


Harris Poll
RK TEAM RECORD PTS PVS
1 LSU (115) 12-0 2875 1
2 Alabama 11-1 2756 2
3 Stanford 11-1 2512 4
4 Virginia Tech 11-1 2438 5
5 Oklahoma State 10-1 2414 6
6 Houston 12-0 2147 7
7 Oregon 10-2 2107 9
8 Boise State 10-1 2092 8
9 Arkansas 10-2 1971 3
10 Oklahoma 9-2 1768 10
11 Michigan State 10-2 1704 11
12 Georgia 10-2 1613 12
13 Wisconsin 10-2 1567 14
14 South Carolina 10-2 1554 13
15 Kansas State 9-2 1348 15
16 Michigan 10-2 1256 16
17 TCU 9-2 980 19
18 Baylor 8-3 900 20
19 Nebraska 9-3 773 21
20 Clemson 9-3 632 17
21 West Virginia 8-3 495 24
22 Penn State 9-3 415 18
23 Southern Miss 10-2 287 NR
24 Florida State 8-4 169 NR
25 Texas 7-4 160 NR

Dropped from rankings: Georgia Tech 22, Notre Dame 23, Virginia 25

Others receiving votes: Cincinnati 114, Georgia Tech 91, Notre Dame 73, Brigham Young 39, Virginia 32, Arkansas State 26, Missouri 16, Auburn 15, Northern Illinois 13, Louisville 8, Ohio 6, Louisiana Tech 4, Rutgers 3, Tulsa 2

SmoothPancakes
11-27-2011, 08:54 AM
Great. Now we're guaranteed a LSU-Alabama rematch in the NCG. :fp: No way in fucking hell does Georgia actually beat LSU. Looks like college football is coming to an end for me the day of the final regular BCS game the first couple days of January. :smh:

morsdraconis
11-27-2011, 09:32 AM
I'm done with college football, besides watching WVU play. I'm done. It is COMPLETE bullshit that the MNC game is going to be a rematch. Alabama had their chance and they blew it (in one of the most boring games I've ever half watched in my life). It should be anyone BUT a team that's already played LSU in the MNC game. ANYBODY. At this point, it should be determined by whether or not LSU beats Georgia and whether or not Oklahoma State beats Oklahoma in their final game to determine who would play who in the MNC game.

LSU loses and Oklahoma State wins, it's Alabama vs Oklahoma State for the MNC game.

LSU wins and Oklahoma State loses, it's LSU vs Stanford for the MNC game.


There should be absolutely no way for a rematch in the MNC game. That is unacceptable and I will never watch another non-WVU college football game until it is prevented with either a playoff or by a special system that prevents rematches, no matter who it's skipping over.

The hilarious part of it all, it just looks like to me it was all planned to begin with. Why else would two coaches that normally take ridiculous chances, play uber conservative against one another? I smell bullshit from the very beginning. They were willing to play it close and let one of the teams beat the other by a small margin because they knew that there was no way they'd be denied another shot at one another in the MNC game. I mean, for fuck's sake, LSU could lose to Georgia and still play in the fuckin' MNC game! How is that fair?!?! Worse than all of that, the fuckin' SEC would get THREE teams in the BCS bowls, something that isn't supposed to be able to happen. So, someone like Houston or Boise State could get fucked out of playing in a BCS bowl game because of all this bullshit. It's just utter bullshit, all the way around and I'm done with it. :smh:

SmoothPancakes
11-27-2011, 10:23 AM
The biggest red flag for me, is the fact that Alabama isn't even going to win their own fucking division! Much less their own damn conference. If you can't even win your own damn division in your conference, you have no business even thinking about playing in a MNC game.

HWill
11-27-2011, 12:17 PM
:fp:

baseballplyrmvp
11-27-2011, 01:29 PM
ucla vs oregon in the pac 12 championship game....:smh: :USC: beat the shit out of ucla last night 50-0.

SmoothPancakes
11-27-2011, 01:58 PM
ucla vs oregon in the pac 12 championship game....:smh: :USC: beat the shit out of ucla last night 50-0.

UCLA may as well not bother showing up. That game will be over before the 1st quarter even ends. There's one game I can definitely, without a doubt, skip.

morsdraconis
11-27-2011, 02:18 PM
Would be hilarious to see UCLA pull off the upset though.

baseballplyrmvp
11-27-2011, 03:07 PM
so after next friday, ucla (assuming they will most likely lose) will have to petition the ncaa for bowl eligibility, being 6-7.

after their 50-0 ass whipping, what bowl in the country wants them? :D

bdoughty
11-27-2011, 07:06 PM
I think UCLA fans will be happy, bowl or no bowl, knowing they have close the gap on USC. :D

cdj
11-27-2011, 09:05 PM
At least there will be the MAC title game to watch on Friday night. I always enjoy seeing non-BCS teams face off in CCGs. They play with a lot of pride and emotion - always fun to watch.

bdoughty
11-27-2011, 10:09 PM
Polls added to OP, let the grumbling and SEC hate commence.

cdj
11-28-2011, 03:50 PM
So who should be #2? (http://eye-on-collegefootball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/24156338/33566427)

bdoughty
11-28-2011, 04:55 PM
That was an interesting way to remove biases but until the season is over the whole thing is moot.

Bedlam Series

Oklahoma currently leads the series 82-16-7. 8 straight victories in the series. I can't think of many "rivalries" this one sided. OU still has a BCS spot on the line and doing it without our superstar WR and starting RB would make an upset all the better.

morsdraconis
11-29-2011, 12:04 AM
Here's how it SHOULD be:

Alabama should not be #2. They played a VERY weak SEC schedule (strength of schedule ratings are bullshit, btw, as the SEC is SEVERELY overrated this year) and, besides that, played basically no one at all (Penn State, Georgia Southern, North Texas, and Kent State? PLEASE!). They only team worth a damn that they played all year, LSU, they lost to, at home in one of the most boring and sloppy games I've ever halfway watched.

The real problem is, no one has a real right to be the #2 team besides Houston, but Houston played such a shitty schedule (unfortunately, the schedule they were given cause everyone is a pussy and won't play them at their place), so we're stuck with a bunch of teams that don't deserve to be there.



Oklahoma State - Lost to Iowa State (granted, it was a huge distraction with what just happened to the women's basketball coaches and all of that). If they beat Oklahoma, there's certainly something to say about that because, at least they won their damn conference and have beaten more than three teams with winning records (see later for why that means anything).
Stanford - Got trounced by the one good team they've played all year and nearly lost to a shitty Cal team. Again, like Alabama, not even a chance to win their conference. Though, them beating USC at their place was a pretty big deal. Like Oklahoma State, though, they beat teams that actually have a winning record (again, see later for the reason why that means something ;) ).
Virginia Tech - REALLY tough to make a case for them. They have played the easiest schedule out of all the BCS conference possibilities and they lost to a really awful Clemson team at home. Just hard to make a case for them over Houston in my mind. The ACC is on par with C-USA and the Big East in my opinion (aka, fuckin' horrible).

After those three, we're getting into teams with loss teams and that's unacceptable for MNC consideration (most years, anyway ;))


So, again, easy C-USA schedule or not, Houston (if they beat Southern Miss) should be playing LSU. That's just all there is to it. I don't care how "tough" the SEC is or any of that bullshit.

Here's the lowdown on the bullshit overinflated hype that is the SEC:

Alabama beat a 5-7 Kent State team, a 9-3 Penn State team (talk about a horribly inflatted win total - they only beat two teams with winning records), a 4-7 North Texas team, a 6-6 Florida team, a 6-6 Vanderbilt team, a 2-10 Ole Miss team, a 5-7 Tennessee team, a 6-6 Mississippi team, a FCS team, and a 7-5 Auburn team. So, they only have 3 wins against schools with winning records in a 9-3 Penn State team, a 7-5 Auburn team, and a 10-2 Arkansas team (who, btw, only beat two teams with winning records). That's it. You've got to be kidding me if anyone thinks that's a hard schedule. In years past? Sure. Absolutely. But this is 2011, not the 1980s. I don't give a shit what Auburn did last year or what Florida did a few years back. That shouldn't mean shit for this year, but it does. It's biased bullshit.

I'm really just sick of the complete knob slobbing that BCS schools get in all of this bullshit. Guess what? If Houston beats Southern Miss this weekend, they will have beaten FOUR schools with winning records (8-4 Louisiana Tech, 7-5 SMU, 8-4 Tulsa, and 10-2 Southern Miss).

COMPLETE AND UTTER BULLSHIT I TELL YOU.

JBHuskers
11-29-2011, 01:32 AM
http://www.eprintablecalendars.com/images/sports/bracket-8-team.jpg

psusnoop
11-29-2011, 09:48 AM
http://www.eprintablecalendars.com/images/sports/bracket-8-team.jpg

:clap:

bdoughty
12-02-2011, 10:56 PM
Gotta give a little credit to UCLA tonight. They kept it a lot closer than I expected.

baseballplyrmvp
12-02-2011, 11:33 PM
Gotta give a little credit to UCLA tonight. They kept it a lot closer than I expected.they shouldnt have even been there to begin with. :smh:

morsdraconis
12-03-2011, 12:15 AM
Damn. No crazy upset by UCLA. :(

Oh well. There's always tomorrow.

bdoughty
12-03-2011, 02:33 PM
Good run for Houston but So Miss is just outplaying them.

DariusLock
12-03-2011, 03:01 PM
Yep, hopefully we can get Fedora is we don't get Kirby Smart. USM is playing good under Fedora....if we miss out on both of them then I guess it goes to Hugh Freeze (Arky. State) sure that will make G happy lol.

morsdraconis
12-03-2011, 04:30 PM
There goes my Houston argument... :fdown:

On the plus side, Georgia is making LSU look like a bunch of bums. Man, I can't wait for them to lose and to see the absolute fallout of having two one loss SEC teams in the MNC game instead of a great playoff system that would allow the crowning of a true champion.

bdoughty
12-03-2011, 05:19 PM
Gotta love the LSU halftime stats

1st Downs 0
Total Yards 12

morsdraconis
12-03-2011, 06:20 PM
Too bad, since then, they've remembered that they were playing a game of football and not a game of two-hand touch. I swear to god, every time I watch this piece of shit LSU team play, I'm disgusted that WVU lost to them and allowed so many yards against them. They're fuckin' awful but they're not as awful offensively as the rest of the SEC apparently is. :smh: It's like watching flies fuck with how inept SEC offenses are. No wonder Florida and Auburn romped all over everyone is that conference, they don't know what to do when they play a team worth a fuck offensively. :fp:

cdj
12-03-2011, 08:10 PM
The CBS crew's presentation of stats comparing Alabama to OSU was completely comical. Unless I missed it, they never showed SOS, Top 25 wins, etc. - only stats that favored Bama.

JBHuskers
12-03-2011, 08:26 PM
The CBS crew's presentation of stats comparing Alabama to OSU was completely comical. Unless I missed it, they never showed SOS, Top 25 wins, etc. - only stats that favored Bama.

I know! I thought the same thing.

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cdj
12-03-2011, 08:30 PM
Okie State up 17-0 on OU.....they may not be able to overcome Gary Danielson's campaigning, but they want that #2 spot.

cdj
12-03-2011, 08:31 PM
I know! I thought the same thing.

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People say ESPN tries to influence voters and media perception, but CBS may have been in worse violation tonight.

bdoughty
12-03-2011, 08:41 PM
On the bright side...

I can't think of one for OU but this ass whopping will make the BCS look bad if we get an LSU/Bama rematch.

baseballplyrmvp
12-03-2011, 09:01 PM
bama had their shot in the regular season and didnt get it done. this is the exact scenario as what happened with georgia back in 07, and the argument then, was "how do you put a team in the national championship who didnt even win their conference or division?"

give the cowboys a shot. no one (outside of sec fans) wants to see an all sec national championship.

JBHuskers
12-03-2011, 09:05 PM
At least the need for a playoff will resonate more.

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cdj
12-03-2011, 09:09 PM
At least the need for a playoff will resonate more.

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Actually, I think this does the opposite. Playoff supporters need 3, 4, 5+ worthy teams. Right now, it's LSU and we're struggling to find a #2. Outside Bama/OSU (and Bama already lost to LSU), there's no legitimate argument for anyone else to be in the MNC discussion.

bdoughty
12-03-2011, 09:24 PM
Good to see Landry Jones giving out all his Christmas gifts early. He might just be giving the gift of a MNC game before the night is over. :fp:

morsdraconis
12-03-2011, 09:51 PM
Actually, I think this does the opposite. Playoff supporters need 3, 4, 5+ worthy teams. Right now, it's LSU and we're struggling to find a #2. Outside Bama/OSU (and Bama already lost to LSU), there's no legitimate argument for anyone else to be in the MNC discussion.

But, see, that's just as good. With no legitimate #2, that makes the whole bullshit of the BCS formula that much more bullshit. What is happening right now is just as good as having 3-5 teams with no losses. When you don't have a definite #2, you have fans from all over claiming that they should be there. Stanford, Oklahoma State, Alabama, and Oregon all have valid reasons for being in the MNC game. That works for me just fine. Anything at all that makes the need for a playoff game that much more important.

bdoughty
12-03-2011, 09:57 PM
But, see, that's just as good. With no legitimate #2, that makes the whole bullshit of the BCS formula that much more bullshit. What is happening right now is just as good as having 3-5 teams with no losses. When you don't have a definite #2, you have fans from all over claiming that they should be there. Stanford, Oklahoma State, Alabama, and Oregon all have valid reasons for being in the MNC game. That works for me just fine. Anything at all that makes the need for a playoff game that much more important.

Agree with all those teams except for Oregon. Had they beaten USC and were a one loss team then yes they would be in fight. Virginia Tech would have had a case as a one loss team but they are losing to Clemson.

JBHuskers
12-03-2011, 09:59 PM
Well as it's always been. Every single sport, including every other division of the NCAA does a playoff. With parity more prevalent now a days, it's time to evolve.

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morsdraconis
12-03-2011, 10:00 PM
Oh yeah, I forgot about them losing to USC. Nevermind. Then, yeah, only three teams with a legitimate shot at being #2. Could have been more (Virginia Tech, Oregon, and Houston) but that's why teams play the games.

morsdraconis
12-03-2011, 10:01 PM
Well as it's always been. Every single sport, including every other division of the NCAA does a playoff. With parity more prevalent now a days, it's time to evolve.

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It never should have been anything BUT a playoff. It's utterly ridiculous that they EVER thought that College Football could work like this and be a true race for the championship game for everyone.

SmoothPancakes
12-03-2011, 10:02 PM
Well as it's always been. Every single sport, including every other division of the NCAA does a playoff. With parity more prevalent now a days, it's time to evolve.

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Yeah, I always laughed my ass off at the dumbasses claiming that having a playoff would affect the players and their classes and all the other stupid reasons they come up with. Uh, hello. Every fucking other division of college football has playoffs. FCS, Division II, Division III, NAIA. They have absolutely no problems with a playoff for their postseason. So how come it's such a big deal or problem now when we start talking FBS? Fucking idiots. :fp:

cdj
12-03-2011, 10:09 PM
I thought Wisconsin would handle MSU this time around (and it looked like it early), but they are in a fight right now. MSU up 36-28, but UW driving.

SmoothPancakes
12-03-2011, 10:19 PM
I thought Wisconsin would handle MSU this time around (and it looked like it early), but they are in a fight right now. MSU up 36-28, but UW driving.

I sort of had a feeling it would be another tough, close battle. I've always felt Wisconsin as overrated. I am somewhat surprised by Clemson beating VT handedly. I thought VT would be the outright favorite with Clemson the chance to possibly play upset favorite. But Clemson is just taking to VT hardcore tonight.

cdj
12-03-2011, 10:21 PM
Same here. I thought Clemson was going to be 'Clemson,' but they've buried VT tonight.

MSU up 39-34, but UW gets a potential game-winning drive. Plenty of time to go though.

bdoughty
12-03-2011, 10:25 PM
Yeah, I always laughed my ass off at the dumbasses claiming that having a playoff would affect the players and their classes and all the other stupid reasons they come up with. Uh, hello. Every fucking other division of college football has playoffs. FCS, Division II, Division III, NAIA. They have absolutely no problems with a playoff for their postseason. So how come it's such a big deal or problem now when we start talking FBS? Fucking idiots. :fp:

Not to mention that basketball and baseball teams who have 3x+ the amount of games and far more time on the road and away from school and both somehow manage to to have conference championships and playoffs.

bdoughty
12-03-2011, 10:28 PM
I like Gus Johnson but someone really needs to slip a xanax in his drink before the game starts.

SmoothPancakes
12-03-2011, 10:30 PM
Not to mention that basketball and baseball teams who have 3x+ the amount of games and far more time on the road and away from school and both somehow manage to to have conference championships and playoffs.

That's right. :D I keep forgetting about basketball and baseball as well. Yeah, when you have basketball playing on any and every night of the week, some teams playing 2 or 3 games a week, possibly all on the road. Apparently it's fine for them to have to deal with the rigors of sports and class, but heaven forbid that there be a playoff in FBS football because some of the players might miss Shapes and Colors Day in class. :P :D

cdj
12-03-2011, 10:35 PM
What a game between MSU and Wisc. I think Gus Johnson is going to blow out his voice. That long pass play to set up the go-ahead TD was the biggest "Gus-gasm" ever recorded.

cdj
12-03-2011, 10:52 PM
And the punter decides the B1G Championship Game....:D :fp:

JBHuskers
12-03-2011, 11:23 PM
What a game between MSU and Wisc. I think Gus Johnson is going to blow out his voice. That long pass play to set up the go-ahead TD was the biggest "Gus-gasm" ever recorded.

Hope someone YouTube'd it.






And the punter decides the B1G Championship Game....:D :fp:

Well it was part collision and part acting. Regardless the right call.

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cdj
12-03-2011, 11:25 PM
Well it was part collision and part acting. Regardless the right call.

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I agree, but I wasn't a fan of the punter acting like he did something great when walking off the field and looking for a chest bump.

cdj
12-04-2011, 12:36 AM
BCS Guru (http://www.bcsguru.com/) predicting Oklahoma State will move up to #2 in the BCS.

- Coaches will have Bama at No. 2 as will Harris voters. BUT ... I'm projecting OSU to be at No. 2 in the BCS standings.
- The margin will be very slim, but enough voters will flip in both polls to put OSU over the top. The VT loss helped big-time.

jaymo76
12-04-2011, 01:25 AM
And the punter decides the B1G Championship Game....:D :fp:

Didn't like it at all. Frankly, I think the flag should have stayed in the pocket and give MSU one more possession. A terrible ending to an excellent game.

morsdraconis
12-04-2011, 05:38 AM
BCS Guru (http://www.bcsguru.com/) predicting Oklahoma State will move up to #2 in the BCS.

- Coaches will have Bama at No. 2 as will Harris voters. BUT ... I'm projecting OSU to be at No. 2 in the BCS standings.
- The margin will be very slim, but enough voters will flip in both polls to put OSU over the top. The VT loss helped big-time.

This is your last chance College Football. OSU deserves to be #2 (since you decided that they shouldn't have fell more than 5 spots after getting their asses beat by Iowa State). There's no other way around it and I refuse to accept anything else (too bad ESPN has been saying, since LSU beat Georgia yesterday, that it's gonna be LSU vs Alabama the whole time).

morsdraconis
12-04-2011, 05:39 AM
Oh, and that roughing the punter call was GARBAGE. Talk about a totally bullshit rule that needs to change. :smh:

bdoughty
12-04-2011, 09:56 AM
Mental Lapse of the year.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=7312450

JBHuskers
12-04-2011, 12:04 PM
Thank god the AP poll doesn't matter....those fools kept Bama at #2.

psuexv
12-04-2011, 01:54 PM
Call me crazy but it's hard for me to not have Bama at 2. Do I want a rematch, no. Do I want to see a team in that didn't win their conference, not really. But Bama's resume is just as impressive as OSU, their one loss is to the clear #1 team and would have won if they would have a kicker. As for not winning their conference, they have the best team in their conference, should another team really get rewarded because they won a conference without the best team in it? I'm sorry but the Big 12 is not as strong this year. Who did OSU beat outside of the Big 12?

Quick question, say Bama makes one of those FGs and wins the LSU gsme and then wins out, would there be a debate of LSU being 2 after going to Ore and WVU and beating those teams but didn't win their conference?

steelerfan
12-04-2011, 02:24 PM
I agree, Eric.

I don't want a rematch, but Ok. St. lost to Iowa St and their best win was over "Big Game" Bob's overrated, 3-loss, 4th-place bunch. Whoopy...

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JeffHCross
12-04-2011, 02:28 PM
Oh, and that roughing the punter call was GARBAGE. Talk about a totally bullshit rule that needs to change. :smh:Didn't call Roughing. It was Running Into, which he did. It just happened to be enough for a 1st down (which is why, in that scenario, you need to stay the fuck away from the punter).

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bdoughty
12-04-2011, 03:26 PM
I agree, Eric.

I don't want a rematch, but Ok. St. lost to Iowa St and their best win was over "Big Game" Bob's overrated, 3-loss, 4th-place bunch. Whoopy...


Actually their best win was a whipping they put on Baylor. One of the few teams to hold RG3 down.

morsdraconis
12-04-2011, 03:33 PM
I agree, Eric.

I don't want a rematch, but Ok. St. lost to Iowa St and their best win was over "Big Game" Bob's overrated, 3-loss, 4th-place bunch. Whoopy...

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Oklahoma State has beaten SEVEN teams with winning records. Take a guess how many teams Alabama beat with winning records.

I'm REALLY sick of the SEC bias.

steelerfan
12-04-2011, 03:41 PM
Oklahoma State has beaten SEVEN teams with winning records. Take a guess how many teams Alabama beat with winning records.

I'm REALLY sick of the SEC bias.

True. But they lost to Iowa State and their conference is almost as pathetic as the Big East. Kansas State was 2nd and Baylor was 3rd in the conference. Terrible.

Again, I don't want a rematch. I don't even think we'll get one. But whatever happens, I hope LSU wins. They deserve it.

I'm kind of glad Houston shit the bed so we don't have that in the mix. The arguement of them being in was laughable.


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bdoughty
12-04-2011, 03:43 PM
Oklahoma State has beaten SEVEN teams with winning records. Take a guess how many teams Alabama beat with winning records.

I'm REALLY sick of the SEC bias.

But Alabama beat Georgia Southern who is a Top 5 FCS team... ;)

morsdraconis
12-04-2011, 03:45 PM
True. But they lost to Iowa State and their conference is almost as pathetic as the Big East. Kansas State was 2nd and Baylor was 3rd in the conference. Terrible.

Again, I don't want a rematch. I don't even think we'll get one. But whatever happens, I hope LSU wins. They deserve it.

I'm kind of glad Houston shit the bed so we don't have that in the mix. The arguement of them being in was laughable.


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No more laughable than Alabama. At least Houston would have beaten FIVE teams with winning records.

Alabama's schedule was a fuckin' cakewalk besides playing LSU and it's a complete farce if they make it into the MNC game because of it.

I don't care though. Give me a fuckin' playoff or I'm done with all the political bullshit. Bowl games are completely corrupt bullshit. WVU "won" their chance to lose $3 million by going to the Orange Bowl and would have made more money by going to some piece of shit bowl in North Carolina instead. How the fuck is that right at all?