PC Gaming Discussion

[I OU a Beatn]

I agree that it's boring after awhile. I'd have to problem spending $5 on it but at $10 I do feel a little ripped off. Oh well. Girlfriend loves it so it'll give her something to do. :D

I didn't even get your message. I was closing out Steam every 2 or 3 minutes trying to get the stupid right click to work in the game. That's a pretty huge bug to have.

[jaymo76]

So with EA creating Origin, will it work the same as Steam? Multiple computer connections, no expirey, etc. all the stuff steam has is also in Origin?

[morsdraconis]

So with EA creating Origin, will it work the same as Steam? Multiple computer connections, no expirey, etc. all the stuff steam has is also in Origin?

I truthfully don't know, but I just stick with Steam. Origin is a fuckin' virus (aka needing special software to uninstall) and it's a god damn headache to install to begin with. I specifically DIDN'T purchase BF3 because EA insisted on putting it out on Origin only. If they continue to do that, I will continue to not purchase their games. They either start supporting Steam by releasing their software on Steam, or I won't be purchasing it.

[oweb26]

I truthfully don't know, but I just stick with Steam. Origin is a fuckin' virus (aka needing special software to uninstall) and it's a god damn headache to install to begin with. I specifically DIDN'T purchase BF3 because EA insisted on putting it out on Origin only. If they continue to do that, I will continue to not purchase their games. They either start supporting Steam by releasing their software on Steam, or I won't be purchasing it.

Hate EA much? You don't need anything special to uninstall (that I know of) I have uninstalled it once it I simply clicked uninstall, it is supposed to operate like steam but I haven't purchased anything through it mostly because there is nothing on there that is worth my money. I cant say I blame them for doing there own thing.

[jaymo76]

Hate EA much? You don't need anything special to uninstall (that I know of) I have uninstalled it once it I simply clicked uninstall, it is supposed to operate like steam but I haven't purchased anything through it mostly because there is nothing on there that is worth my money. I cant say I blame them for doing there own thing.

I am just thinking about the next Sim City and I suspect that it will not be available on Steam. It seems that now EA is all about maximzing their online profits.

[morsdraconis]

Hate EA much? You don't need anything special to uninstall (that I know of) I have uninstalled it once it I simply clicked uninstall, it is supposed to operate like steam but I haven't purchased anything through it mostly because there is nothing on there that is worth my money. I cant say I blame them for doing there own thing.

When they attempt to do something that Steam does better in every way, shape, and form? Absolutely. Fuck EA and their money grubbing executives. They would have sold twice as many copies of Battlefield 3 if they would just suck it up and pay Valve their 15% to have it on Steam.

[I OU a Beatn]

Agreed. I'm not buying anything unless it's on Steam. I've used Origin and I think it sucks. It does pretty much the exact same thing Steam does, but not nearly as well. Steam has an amazing user interface which is why it'll always be the go to client for PC gaming. Also, considering EA was throwing bitch fits about Steam and their massive sales, I think it's safe to say EA wont be throwing sales. You'll be paying MSRP for pretty much everything through Origin which is a huge turn off to me.

I was going to get BF3 but since it's not on Steam, I passed. The same goes for Crysis 3. I want that bad boy for PC, but if it's not on Steam, I'm not getting it for PC...that's for sure.

[JeffHCross]

Fuck EA and their money grubbing executives.Yeah, because all the alternatives are totally altruistic and not doing it for profit at all .................

I'm not a fan of the Origin service or what they're trying to do, but executives being "money grubbing" is hardly a reason to choose one over another. You wouldn't be left with practically anybody.

[oweb26]

15% of 3 million copies is alot of money. I can't say I blame them, I will agree it does suck and they rarely mark down anything which is why I don't use it.

Sent from my A500 using Tapatalk 2

[morsdraconis]

Yeah, because all the alternatives are totally altruistic and not doing it for profit at all .................

I'm not a fan of the Origin service or what they're trying to do, but executives being "money grubbing" is hardly a reason to choose one over another. You wouldn't be left with practically anybody.

They're money grubbing because they refuse to pay Valve their cut on the profits (something like 15% from what I've heard).

Taking into account the fact that games that go on sale by even 30% increase their sales two fold, EA could have EASILY made twice the money they currently made on Battlefield 3 by distributing it via steam instead of trying to get all of the profits through a proprietary delivery system.

Games like The Binding of Issac sell a million copies through steam by basically just word of mouth. I find it INCREDIBLY hard to believe that EA couldn't market their game through Steam at a discounted price of 10-30% and make a KILLING. Give someone the ability to buy the game for 30% what the normal retail places are selling it for, and you are GUARANTEED to sell more copies than the retail store will.

I was VERY interested in Battlefield 3, until I heard that it was only going to be released via Origin. I'm one of at least a few thousands customers that didn't buy BF3 for our PC because of EA's inability to play nice with a 3rd party distributor.

[JeffHCross]

I'll agree with "foolish" or "questionable decision making", but not "money grubbing". Wanting to keep all the $$$$ for themselves is pretty much a modern business mindset. Valve's no different -- Valve just realized that they could make extra mounds of $$$$ by being a distributor.

EDIT: Actually, since Valve is a private corporation, they have every reason to play more nicely with others and be less money grubbing. So I guess rather than "modern business mindset" I should say "modern Wall Street mindset".

[morsdraconis]

15% of 3 million copies is alot of money. I can't say I blame them, I will agree it does suck and they rarely mark down anything which is why I don't use it.

Sent from my A500 using Tapatalk 2

It's FAR less than what they are paying for their own distribution service and servers to host all of their products.

Plus, putting their game on steam, they probably would have nearly doubled their profits compared to the sales that they saw through their own distribution service.

I mean, christ, they only sold 670,000 copies of it in North America (for the PC mind you). 670,000! They BARELY topped 2 million total world wide for the PC. That's ATROCIOUS.

Compare that to PS3 (2.24 million in NA) and Xbox 360 (3.69 million in NA) sales and you have to think there's a reason why people didn't purchase it for the PC and equate that to EA's refusal to use anything buy Origin for distribution of their product.

[I OU a Beatn]

I have never played any game that looks as good as Rage does on PC. Holy shit, my mouth dropped during the opening scene after you get picked up and are in the passenger seat for the first time. Incredible.

[oweb26]

I have never played any game that looks as good as Rage does on PC. Holy shit, my mouth dropped during the opening scene after you get picked up and are in the passenger seat for the first time. Incredible.

RAGE looked great even on console. I actually enjoyed the hell out of the game wish it was better supported and/or completed.

[gschwendt]

Black Mesa: Source (updating HL1 to Source engine) is finally getting closer to release it looks like... here's a leaked gameplay video that's about 4-5 weeks old.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-wfdgpCRXc&feature=player_detailpage


Developer's statement
http://forums.blackmesasource.com/showthread.php?p=474198#post474198
There have been too many posts for me to reply to individually, but I'll go over the basic points I've seen crop up a bunch of times. I'll try to address everything as transparently as I can, because there's a lot of misinformation floating around.


Is this a leak? Was it released intentionally?
We had always been planning to release gameplay video(s) as part of the social media campaign, and we'd always hinted as such. Unfortunately, we ran into some difficulties while we were wrapping up the build (including several severe FPS drops and crashes) that delayed our plans for the media campaign and any gameplay videos. Once we got those sorted, we started to try to figure out what we could show off; the video that was posted to YouTube was a rough first cut outlining some possible action.


Someone showed someone else something they shouldn't have, and that someone else decided to share that something with the internet. And here we are today. Bottom line is that sooner or later, you were going to see what you saw; that's why we haven't tried to cover everything up or get it taken down. There's no conspiracy, we don't have any ulterior motives.

How old is the build of the game?
The build featured in the video is between four and five weeks old. The art assets, level design, lighting, sound effects and music, voice acting, weapons, gameplay mechanics, etc. are all basically final. You won't be seeing very many changes between what's in the video and what's in the final product.

Is the music actually in-game?
The music in the second half in the video is the actual song from the level, it hasn't been overlaid afterwards. It syncs up well with the action because it's been designed to; the song was specifically written for this area. The audio quality of the YouTube video doesn't do it justice though, and it sounds like the game's music volume was turned up too high while the video was recorded.

Why are there iron-sights in the game?
You can look down the sights of the .357 for a slight zoom and increase in accuracy at the expense of your rate of fire. It was a mechanic that was present in Half-Life: Deathmatch, but we've brought it into the singleplayer to help solidify the weapon's role. We've added an option to the main menu to completely disable that functionality, as a result of the feedback we've received from the video.


The .357 and crossbow are the only weapons that you can use the sights on, and they're for decent gameplay reasons. We aren't casualising or consolifying the mod; you don't have regenerating health, there aren't chest-high walls, you won't get strawberry jam on the screen when you're hurt, etc.

Why does everything look like crap?
The compression YouTube applies has blurred and darkened everything, even at 720p settings. You lose a lot of stuff like the scanlines on the HUD, the stars twinkling in the sky, the moonlight illuminating the launch pad and the hologram illuminating the control bunker, any real texture detail, outdoor characters, etc. I've got the original video at 1080p, and everything looks fine.

Why is the voice acting so bad?
Everything is intentional; the soldiers are meant to sound like over-the-top movie bad guys. We're not interested in trying to get you to empathise with the enemies.

Will this affect the plans for further media or the release?
It has, we're actually going to be moving some things forward. Time has never been on our side.

[I OU a Beatn]

Payday: The Heist is $4.99 on Steam(75% off) until August 9th.

[gschwendt]

Payday: The Heist is $4.99 on Steam(75% off) until August 9th.
Purchased.

[I OU a Beatn]

Same. I also noticed Counter-Strike: Global Offensive is 10% off and comes out the 21st of this month There's also a bundle that includes all the CS games, including Global Offensive for $18.69. Definitely tempted to get CSGO by itself.

[gschwendt]

Same. I also noticed Counter-Strike: Global Offensive is 10% off and comes out the 21st of this month There's also a bundle that includes all the CS games, including Global Offensive for $18.69. Definitely tempted to get CSGO by itself.
I was in the CS:GO beta... if you like CS, it's pretty much more of the same.

[I OU a Beatn]

I never played it before but for $14 I'm definitely interested. I love tactical shooters but haven't had one since SOCOM went down the drain.

I bought it but how does prepurchasing work? Do I just download it from Steam whenever it launches? It has a link on the receipt screen to "install games" but it doesn't do anything when I click on it. I assume you have to actually wait until it launches before you can start downloading it?

[gschwendt]

I never played it before but for $14 I'm definitely interested. I love tactical shooters but haven't had one since SOCOM went down the drain.

I bought it but how does prepurchasing work? Do I just download it from Steam whenever it launches? It has a link on the receipt screen to "install games" but it doesn't do anything when I click on it. I assume you have to actually wait until it launches before you can start downloading it?
Don't have too high hopes for it... it's a good game but it's still old and the guys that play in leagues and show up on public servers toting AWPs (one-shot kill snipers) are especially annoying.

As far as installing it pre-release, generally a couple of days before release it will be available for pre-install. It will download 99% of the files for you and then on launch day you just download the small remainder. You pretty much just have to be looking for it though... no way to queue it up before it's actually ready for pre-install.

[JeffHCross]

I never played it beforeNever played ... what? CS? That can't be.

[I OU a Beatn]

Nope, never played it. I've never played any of the popular PC exclusive games.

[JeffHCross]

Nope, never played it. I've never played any of the popular PC exclusive games.I'm... stunned. That might be the only popular shooter in history that I've played and you haven't.

[morsdraconis]

I'm... stunned. That might be the only popular shooter in history that I've played and you haven't.

I never played it either, but that's because I hate shooters like that.

[I OU a Beatn]

Quite surprised to see The Secret World available on Steam since it's published by EA. That gives me some hope that Crysis 3 and perhaps Battlefield 4 will be available on Steam as well. Hopefully.

[morsdraconis]

Quite surprised to see The Secret World available on Steam since it's published by EA. That gives me some hope that Crysis 3 and perhaps Battlefield 4 will be available on Steam as well. Hopefully.

Don't count on it. Anything that's basically a BIG release by EA is only available on Origin. The Secret World is on Steam because EA isn't going to make shit on that game. It's a bad $15 a month MMO that's attempting to be a 2008 MMO in 2012 when it's only free to play and buy and play MMOs.

[I OU a Beatn]

FEAR 3 is $3.84 at GMG. (http://www.greenmangaming.com/s/us/en/pc/games/shooter/fear-3/)

[I OU a Beatn]

New Steam Features Being Announced Over Next Few Days Starting Today (http://steamcommunity.com/communitycontent)

Very cool.

[morsdraconis]

Edit: Nevermind, I'm an idiot.

[I OU a Beatn]

I realized to install a SSD I would have to remove my optical drive, which I'm not willing to do so I'm going to be removing my regular hard drive and just using a SSD for my regular storage. Obviously, games will be a problem since it'll only be 256GB max so my question: can you run games off an external drive?

[I OU a Beatn]

This looks interesting. (http://store.steampowered.com/app/206250/)

[morsdraconis]

This looks interesting. (http://store.steampowered.com/app/206250/)

Wow. That indie developer is insane. No indie game is worth $20 and probably isn't worth $15.99 either. That's nuts to price an indie game that damn high cause it's sales are guaranteed not to be very high. $9.99 is the sweet spot for indie games that aren't trying to be big budget games.

[I OU a Beatn]

Yeah, price is ridiculous but it's on my radar when it drops to $5.

[morsdraconis]

Yeah, price is ridiculous but it's on my radar when it drops to $5.

Most definitely. It looks fun but there's no way I'd pay more than $5 for it or so.

[SmoothPancakes]

I realized to install a SSD I would have to remove my optical drive, which I'm not willing to do so I'm going to be removing my regular hard drive and just using a SSD for my regular storage. Obviously, games will be a problem since it'll only be 256GB max so my question: can you run games off an external drive?

If I'm understanding you correctly, yes, you can. I have a 2 TB external hard drive that I have connected to my laptop via USB. I have Steam itself and every single PC game I own installed on that external drive so I can keep my limited 250GB freed up for other uses and needs on my internal drive. Haven't had a problem at all running things that way. It may take a slight bit longer for Steam or for games themselves to load up, but if it does, I haven't really noticed it. It all still works just fine otherwise, like I have the games right there on my internal drive.

[JeffHCross]

I realized to install a SSD I would have to remove my optical driveKnowing nothing about your system .... why?

[I OU a Beatn]

It's a laptop and it's extremely crowded. Only have enough room for 1 hard drive and 1 optical drive or 2 hard drives and no optical drive.

[JeffHCross]

"Laptop" was the part I didn't know. Makes sense.

[I OU a Beatn]

Alan Wake Collector's Edition + Alan Wake American Nightmare is $9.99 this weekend on Steam.

[I OU a Beatn]

Beta is supposedly live for the first 50,000 achievers of the "Pillar of the Steam Community," whatever that is.

[morsdraconis]

New Humble Bundle (http://www.humblebundle.com/#contribute)

For $6.08, you get:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBg-MYObmas

[jaymo76]

I just signed up to be put in the pool for a beta tester for Sim City. I doubt that I will be selected due to my weak system but I figured it was worth a shot. If anyone is interested go to the SimCity main page and sign up.

[I OU a Beatn]

Steam Deal of the Day is The Adventures of P.B. Winterbottom for $1.24.

[SmoothPancakes]

For my fellow RTS gamers, back on the 10th, a new Wargame was announced, a sequel to this year's Wargame: European Escalation, Wargame: AirLand Battle.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFSPfq2SlUk


Wargame: AirLand Battle unveiled in its first in-game teaser!

Today, we are proud to unveil in a first video teaser Wargame: AirLand Battle, the sequel to Wargame! Planned for released for 2013, Wargame: AirLand Battle will bring the series to a brand new dimension. Today's video gives a glimpse of the spectacular new features to come!

While the first Wargame made a splash with its powerful engine, Wargame: AirLand Battle will be the series's leap forward by bringing a level of detail never before seen in a real-time strategy game. The new version of the IRISZOOM Engine(tm) will display spectacular graphics with a wide variety of units, scenery, and impressive topography reproduced from satellite maps, all of which are visible in today's teaser.

Just like its predecessor, Wagame: AirLand Battle takes players through a series of conflicts commanding NATO and Warsaw Pact troops between 1975 & 1985 at a turning point of the Cold War. In this episode, war rages in Northern Europe, notably Scandinavia, whose architecture and magnificent landscapes are faithfully recreated in the game.
Wargame: AirLand Battle allows players to command all military resources of the Cold War era from tanks to planes. A total of 150 planes strengthen the playable arsenal of the game, from fighters to bombers to electronic warfare planes. Four new nations and their vehicles join the original eight from the first installment, making a total of over 750 vehicles and combat units rendered in realistic detail! Wargame: AirLand Battle also brings authenticity to the next level thanks to a new weapons system, better handling of fire effects, and a new Urban Combat Interface (UCI) allowing for battle inside cities.

The solo campaign is composed of several new dynamic campaigns, during which players manage all aspects of battle by leading each squad of the Theater of Operation and making good use of reinforcements and strategic support. Wargame: AirLand Battle still allows customization of armies in solo and multiplayer modes thanks to the 'Deck' system, which is now being enhanced with an integrated 'viewer'. Ultimately, each decision made will have an impact on the tactical outcome of battles and evolution of the global conflict! Prepare to re-enter the Cold War in 2013!

Source: http://wargame-ee.com/index.php?rub=news-infos&id=136

[I OU a Beatn]

3 weeks ago I had one game on my PC...Diablo III. Now I'm up over 20 in my Steam library. Aside from Darksiders 2, I've spent less than $100 bucks on the other 19 and they're all pretty new games. Yeah, I'm definitely spending the majority of my non Halo/Madden/Gears of War gaming time on PC from now on. It's just ridiculous how much cheaper the games are.

[morsdraconis]

Steam is awesome like that.

[SmoothPancakes]

3 weeks ago I had one game on my PC...Diablo III. Now I'm up over 20 in my Steam library. Aside from Darksiders 2, I've spent less than $100 bucks on the other 19 and they're all pretty new games. Yeah, I'm definitely spending the majority of my non Halo/Madden/Gears of War gaming time on PC from now on. It's just ridiculous how much cheaper the games are.


Steam is awesome like that.

Yep. In the past, if I wanted to play a PC game, I had to go to a local game store, Walmart or Gamestop in the next town over and hope they had a copy in stock. Empire: Total War was the last game I have ever bought a physical box copy of. Every game since then, I buy on Steam or Amazon (when they have PC game sales). If it's not available on Steam or isn't cheap on Amazon, I don't buy it.

[I OU a Beatn]

If anyone wants access to the Steam Community Beta, I have a guest pass I can give out.

[I OU a Beatn]

Ah, my first ever few rounds of Counter-Strike. I enjoyed it quite a bit. It does feel a little dated, but it's missing a lot of the garbage that all of today's shooters have(aim assist, random spawns, etc...) so I'm more than willing to deal with it. I just wish there was some way to sprint. That's one of my main knocks against all the Halo games before Reach. I can't stand when I can't sprint.

[gschwendt]

Ah, my first ever few rounds of Counter-Strike. I enjoyed it quite a bit. It does feel a little dated, but it's missing a lot of the garbage that all of today's shooters have(aim assist, random spawns, etc...) so I'm more than willing to deal with it. I just wish there was some way to sprint. That's one of my main knocks against all the Halo games before Reach. I can't stand when I can't sprint.
If you switch to your knife, you'll run faster than with a gun in your hand... not significantly, but enough to at least do it at the beginning of the round to get into place.

[morsdraconis]

If anyone wants access to the Steam Community Beta, I have a guest pass I can give out.

I'll take you up on that if no one else has.

[morsdraconis]

Also, if no one hasn't yet, you should definitely check out the new update to Team Fortress 2: Man vs Machine. I've not had as much fun in a co-op game in a LONG time. It's fun as hell. I'll be playing more over the next few evenings before Guild Wars 2 drops on Saturday so be on and I'll invite ya to come play with me. :)

[I OU a Beatn]

If you switch to your knife, you'll run faster than with a gun in your hand... not significantly, but enough to at least do it at the beginning of the round to get into place.

Very nice tip. That does help a bit.


I'll take you up on that if no one else has.

I gifted it to you. Let me know if you didn't get it.

[I OU a Beatn]

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m94x41Fwly1rq0wgw.jpg

The Basement collection will officially release on steam August 31st on both Pc and Mac.

The collection will be 4$ (but there might be a fan discount as well, more news on that later)

The Basement collection is a collection of 8 of my games from the past, revamped with new art, music and extra content.

The collection includes

-Time Fcuk (with a new exclusive 33 level sequel chapter and updated level editor)

-Aether (with improved graphics, physics, controls and extra bonus content)

-Spewer (with a new exclusive 10 level bonus chapter, improved physics and controls)

-Grey Matter (the 1st Team Meat game)

-Triachnid (with improved mouse controls)

-Meat Boy (with improved controls)

-Coil

-Secret game 1 (with new music, graphics and gameplay)

-Secret game 2

All of these games will feature achievements and be presented in high detail at full screen resolution. each game will also feature bonus development extras ( design documents, character design sketches, audio and video commentary and playable prototypes ).

on top of all this, the Basement collection will also featured 8 substantial unlockables featuring bonus games, full comics, sketch books and more.

Extra details:

-15 minutes of never before scene stock video interviews from Indie Game: The Movie

-Over 40 minutes audio of development commentary/QA sessions

-Over 30 pages of development documents and character sketches.

-6 playable tech demos/prototypes

-tons of behind the scenes photos, comics, easter eggs and extras

The collection also comes with a free full digital sound track, featuring full sound tracks from all but one game featured in the collection, the soundtrack also features over 10 amazing fan made tracks!

its a shit load of content, sometimes i forget some of the stuff in there myself… but thats a pretty solid run down of what the collection includes.

Tell a friend! i made this one for the fans, its an interesting collection that really shows the over arching themes in my work.. im suprised how many things in isaac are featured in it.

August 31st! BE THERE!

That's a TON of content for $4.

[morsdraconis]

Yup. I'll definitely be purchasing that.

[JeffHCross]

Yeah, I_OU, that's one reason I was stunned you'd never played CS. Seems right up your alley (though I understand hardware limitations).

[morsdraconis]

I gifted it to you. Let me know if you didn't get it.

I got it. Thanks. I don't care for it, but it's definitely interesting none-the-less.

[I OU a Beatn]

Yeah, it's too facebooky for me. I don't mind it, though. I don't really look at that particular section of Steam anyway.

[morsdraconis]

Yeah, it's too facebooky for me. I don't mind it, though. I don't really look at that particular section of Steam anyway.

Yeah. Definitely WAY too much like Facebook for my liking.

[I OU a Beatn]

Picked up Just Cause 2 for $3.49 on Steam. I've been wanting to try it out for awhile now and with that price and all the rave the multiplayer mod has been getting recently, figured the time was never better.

[gschwendt]

Picked up Just Cause 2 for $3.49 on Steam. I've been wanting to try it out for awhile now and with that price and all the rave the multiplayer mod has been getting recently, figured the time was never better.
It's quite fun, but you'll have to overlook the awful voice acting. I mean awful.

[I OU a Beatn]

Amazon PCDD is having a daily sale until 9/9 with new deals each day. Today's bundles are:

Desert to Sea Bundle (www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0091T6FQO/ref=nosim/thegamtai-20): $19.99 (all activate on Steam)

Spec Ops: The Line
Bioshock
Bioshock 2

and:

The WTF Pack (www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0091T6LFE/ref=nosim/thegamtai-20): $19.99 (all activate on Steam)

Borderlands GOTY
The Darkness II
Duke Nukem Forever

[morsdraconis]

Wow. I might be tempted on the Spec Ops: The Line pack. I HATE Bioshock, but $20 for Spec Ops isn't bad at all since it's still $50 on Steam normally.

[I OU a Beatn]

I've read that around Labor Day they will have Max Payne 3 and GTA IV Complete in a pack for $24.99. I'll be all over that if it's true.

[morsdraconis]

I've read that around Labor Day they will have Max Payne 3 and GTA IV Complete in a pack for $24.99. I'll be all over that if it's true.

I hated GTA4, but that might be pretty good for Max Payne 3. Not really sure how interested I really am in it though.

[gigemaggs99]

I haven't read through all 16 pages but if you haven't tried Company of Heros, you should give it a shot. I picked up the Anthology on amazon a few months ago. I think they have specials for it on Steam. Talk about a game where you can really loose hours. I've played it with a few buddies online, basically a "capture the flag" take over the areas of the map through battles. You have to build units and then you control their movements. It's a great RTS game. The campaigns are also pretty good as you can be either the Americans, the Allies or the Germans.

Here is the trailer for the game:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltsP-fePKFk

Here is a video of actual gameplay:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgMUAh9gK1o it would be nice to find some without commentary.

There are support forums for the game and some people have made more detailed uniforms, tank camp/paintjobs, etc... it's all pretty simple to add-on.


I'm excited to see the sequel http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/07/06/company-of-heroes-2-creating-an-authentic-experience

This has some cool news about the new one coming out soon: http://connecteddigitalworld.com/2012/08/27/hands-on-preview-of-thqs-company-of-heroes-2-at-gamescom-2012/

[I OU a Beatn]

Max Payne 3 + GTA IV Complete(Both require Steam) for $24.99 Today ONLY (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00904XVS0/?tag=thegamtai-20)

Now that it's here I'm a little unsure to pull the trigger. I never liked GTA IV, so I think I'll wait until Max Payne 3 is a lower price personally. It's been dropping like a rock in price.

[I OU a Beatn]

Basement Collection is now on Steam. $3.99 regularly or $2.79 if you own one of his games(like Isaac).

[I OU a Beatn]

Also, anyone else think that They Bleed Pixels looks really sweet? I'm going to ATTEMPT to wait for a sale, but I'm guessing I cave by the end of next week...if even that long.

[gschwendt]

Also, anyone else think that They Bleed Pixels looks really sweet? I'm going to ATTEMPT to wait for a sale, but I'm guessing I cave by the end of next week...if even that long.
I'm not much of a fan of punishing platformers... I enjoyed Super Meat Boy for a little while but eventually it became me bashing my head against my desk in failure.

[morsdraconis]

I LOVE punishing platformers, but I'm not spending any money on any games for a while. Guild Wars 2 is my game of choice right now and will be for a long time.

[oweb26]

In case anyone is always on the hunt for games like I am this is what I use every weekend to find deals.

http://www.shacknews.com/article/75562/weekend-pc-digital-deals-labor-day-bonanza#

I will post every weekend if you guys want as it takes less than one minute.

Crusader Kings + DLC is 10.00 through Amazon, its a steam download code also so thats even more sweet.

[I OU a Beatn]

Greenlight is such a fantastic idea. Valve is comprised of a bunch of geniuses.

[I OU a Beatn]

Also, Borderlands 2 is $37.50 until September 10 with coupon GMG25-1BW0K-K1A3G on Green Man Gaming. The coupon gives 25% off any game, actually, but you can only use it once. I think I'll finally pull the trigger on BL2.

[I OU a Beatn]

Trine 1 + Trine 2 + The new Trine 2 Expansion "Goblin Menace" is $8.74 on Steam until Monday. The Crysis Collection is $17.49 also until Monday on Steam. I think I'll be getting the Trine bundle. That's a great price especially since the new DLC is included.

[morsdraconis]

I've exclusively been playing nothing but Guild Wars 2. If you even remotely like MMOs (or, like me, hate them for reasons that GW2 fixes), then you need to at least check it out. I've spent probably 80+ hours in the past two weeks (combining it and football on weekends) and I'm constantly itching to play more.

[I OU a Beatn]

I'm interested in it but haven't been able to convince myself to pull the trigger on it. I'd love to hear some more in depth impressions from you, mors. I've read all the reviews, but I have a hard time trusting people who have different tastes than me.

Anyway, finally prepurchased Borderlands 2. GMG had it for $36 with a coupon and I figured I'm not going to find it anywhere lower than that so it was the perfect time. Can't wait.

[morsdraconis]

I'm interested in it but haven't been able to convince myself to pull the trigger on it. I'd love to hear some more in depth impressions from you, mors. I've read all the reviews, but I have a hard time trusting people who have different tastes than me.

Well, my tastes are different from yours as well, but, coming from someone (me) who has pretty much hated every other MMO I've ever tried because they're a giant grindfest where you go kill boars in a forest, wolves in a forest, and then spiders in a cave to finish the "quests", Guild Wars 2 is a GINORMOUS breathe of fresh air.

This video goes over 60 reasons for looking at Guild Wars 2 if you have even a remote interest in MMOs:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzEqJAg8460


Then these three videos are more indepth talks about the three aspects of the game that I think REALLY make it better than any other MMO around:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4iexQui2xA


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eETY558A5ds


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNw-rx42r7E

[JeffHCross]

Greenlight is such a fantastic idea. Valve is comprised of a bunch of geniuses.Though it was, unsurprisingly, abused, and then got a $100 entry fee as a result (http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2012/09/a-100-lottery-ticket-indies-discuss-steam-greenlights-new-fee/). I wonder if they could instead use the $100 like a security deposit ... that way small developers who might not normally afford the fee could pay it, but get it back.

[gschwendt]

Though it was, unsurprisingly, abused, and then got a $100 entry fee as a result (http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2012/09/a-100-lottery-ticket-indies-discuss-steam-greenlights-new-fee/). I wonder if they could instead use the $100 like a security deposit ... that way small developers who might not normally afford the fee could pay it, but get it back.
The $100 goes to Childs Play if you're unaware. I think if I were a developer and were serious about my game, I could stand to put up a $100 donation. If someone was truly desperate, start a Kickstarter for the $100.

[JeffHCross]

The $100 goes to Childs Play if you're unaware. I think if I were a developer and were serious about my game, I could stand to put up a $100 donation. If someone was truly desperate, start a Kickstarter for the $100.I'm aware, and, as someone who has donated to Child's Play for the last five years, that's huge for me. But I also understand, especially overseas, that $100 can be a significant buy-in. I agree with you that there are reasons/ways to fund the $100 ... I just think, personally, that if the point of the $100 fee is to guard against fake entries, there are alternative ways to do that without negatively affecting the developers.

[I OU a Beatn]

Big Picture Mode beta on Steam launches today. I don't think they've detailed exactly when today it will start or how to get in, but I can't wait.

[I OU a Beatn]

...and it's sexy. I hope you can boot into it eventually.

[gschwendt]

Steam finally lets you choose your game locations! Long overdue, especially in today's day & age of SSDs.
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/09/11/finally-an-in-built-way-to-choose-steam-install-locations/

[I OU a Beatn]

:clap:

Played around with Big Picture Mode a good bit last night and while it's a bit barebones right now, it's an amazing interface, especially with a controller. Hopefully they expand upon it.

[JBHuskers]

Has anyone played this game? It's coming to consoles soon.

Terraria coming to XBLA/PSN early 2013, 1.6 million sold on PC (http://www.joystiq.com/2012/09/11/terraria-coming-to-xbla-psn-early-2013-1-6-million-sold-on-pc/)

[gschwendt]

Has anyone played this game? It's coming to consoles soon.

Terraria coming to XBLA/PSN early 2013, 1.6 million sold on PC (http://www.joystiq.com/2012/09/11/terraria-coming-to-xbla-psn-early-2013-1-6-million-sold-on-pc/)
It's a side-scrolling Minecraft. It's pretty fun but I got bored with it since there's not an end-game other than just to see what you can find next. Pretty sure you can play multiplayer so the fun might be there.

[gschwendt]

Black Mesa (Half-Life Source remake) has been Greenlit by Steam.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=94128543

Will be available for download Friday (not sure if it will be on Steam at that point).

[morsdraconis]

It's a side-scrolling Minecraft. It's pretty fun but I got bored with it since there's not an end-game other than just to see what you can find next. Pretty sure you can play multiplayer so the fun might be there.

You are wrong there sir. There is MOST DEFINITELY an end-game. There are 4 pre-hardmode bosses to kill and 3 to kill after hardmode (WAY harder to just walk around in).

It's definitely worth checking out if you like side-scrolling games at all and is a MAJOR time sink if you have someone to play with.

[gschwendt]

You are wrong there sir. There is MOST DEFINITELY an end-game. There are 4 pre-hardmode bosses to kill and 3 to kill after hardmode (WAY harder to just walk around in).
Hmm... I played it for 2.5 hours and didn't get much out of it I suppose. I tried to read up on it and all I could find was that you could build up your town so that others would come live there. I never knew you were supposed to kill any enemies, I just thought they were there as a challenge.

[gschwendt]

IOU (or anyone else), did you ever get the SSD you were planning to get? I see the prices continue to drop making me tempted. Right now my primary drive I've got down to 55GB used so I easily could work with 128GB which I see can be had for as low as $80 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007R1FH3K/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B007R1FH3K&linkCode=as2&tag=thegamtai-20). Is it worth it solely for the boot-up and program launch?

Alternatively, I've recently discovered that my motherboard is only a SATA II... so any input from anyone on whether better to upgrade my motherboard or to SSD?

[gschwendt]

Nevermind, I found my answer regarding SATA2 vs SATA3... apparently spinner drives don't fully utilize SATA2 so they don't even come close to hitting SATA3. SATA3 is specifically designed for SSDs though obviously is backwards compatible both ways.

[I OU a Beatn]

IOU (or anyone else), did you ever get the SSD you were planning to get? I see the prices continue to drop making me tempted. Right now my primary drive I've got down to 55GB used so I easily could work with 128GB which I see can be had for as low as $80 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007R1FH3K/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B007R1FH3K&linkCode=as2&tag=thegamtai-20). Is it worth it solely for the boot-up and program launch?

Alternatively, I've recently discovered that my motherboard is only a SATA II... so any input from anyone on whether better to upgrade my motherboard or to SSD?

Haven't got mine yet. I've had one in my Amazon wish list for about a month and it just keeps dropping in price, so I figured I'd wait it out and try to get the best price. Although seeing the one you linked to, I'm tempted to get it. $80 is a great deal. I might just have to go ahead and get that one to use as my main drive and then just get one of those 2TB Western Digital My Book external drives for storing Steam games/music.

Finally found a game that I couldn't run on Ultra settings. Sleeping Dogs. I was getting about 15 FPS on Ultra, but damn does that game look good. Plays fine on High thankfully.

Apparently Saints Row The Third is supposed to be under $10 tomorrow on GMG.

[I OU a Beatn]

Black Mesa came out today and by my count, about 30 seconds after it was up for download the entire site went down. :D

I think I'm just going to wait until it releases on Steam.

[gschwendt]

Black Mesa came out today and by my count, about 30 seconds after it was up for download the entire site went down. :D

I think I'm just going to wait until it releases on Steam.
I'll get it sometime next week. Hopefully Monday so that it can be a distraction while I wait for Borderlands 2. Otherwise it may be awhile before I can pick it up.

[gschwendt]

Black Mesa came out today and by my count, about 30 seconds after it was up for download the entire site went down. :D

I think I'm just going to wait until it releases on Steam.
They posted a torrent from their twitter.
http://www.mediafire.com/?khmzyygg4vetko0

[gschwendt]

Homefront for $3.75
http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/79982/green-man-gaming-homefront-pc-digital-download?utm_campaign=twitter&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitter


I know all indications are that it's not very good but I figure can't go wrong for $3.75.

[I OU a Beatn]

The campaign(as long as you excuse your idiot AI team members) is fantastic. The story is great and it's paced extremely well. There was no repetitiveness in it at all. As far as campaigns go, Homefront and Spec Ops The Line are by far the best I've played. For under $4, I highly recommend it.

I wasn't a huge fan of the multiplayer, but even it was relatively entertaining for a few weeks. I'm not really sure why it got bad reviews.

[I OU a Beatn]

Metro 2033 for $3 on GMG. THREE DOLLARS. I love gaming on PC.

[gschwendt]

Metro 2033 for $3 on GMG. THREE DOLLARS. I love gaming on PC.
Good game... Very cpu intensive though.

[gschwendt]

I played a few hours of Black Mesa last night... very well done. It's not a 1:1 remake, they make some tweaks here & there, but that said, the overall feeling is certainly the same. I made it to the point where the marines show up.

[oweb26]

Good game... Very cpu intensive though.

LOL I read this too late. My CPU can't quite handle it. 3.00 wasted for now, until I finish my build that has been going on for about a year.

[I OU a Beatn]

I can play it on high at about 45FPS. I put it on Ultra and I can see my PC just starting to melt. :D

[JBHuskers]

Thoughts on Humble Bundle 6 (http://www.humblebundle.com/)?


Pay what you want for Torchlight, Shatter, Rochard, Vessel, and Space Pirates and Zombies. If you choose to pay more than the average price, you will also receive Dustforce! And many of the games come with a breathtaking soundtrack!

Each of these DRM-free games work on Mac, Windows, and Linux, and can optionally be redeemed on Steam (if you purchase for $1 or more). For Linux users, you also have the option to redeem through the Ubuntu Software Centre. Please note that the finishing touches for Vessel's Mac and Linux debut are still being completed and it should be ready in 24-72 hours.

I know Torchlight and Shatter are solid games.

[JeffHCross]

I can play it on high at about 45FPS. I put it on Ultra and I can see my PC just starting to melt. :DI'm pretty sure the installer alone would make my PC melt :smh:

[morsdraconis]

Thoughts on Humble Bundle 6 (http://www.humblebundle.com/)?



I know Torchlight and Shatter are solid games.

It's like $6... I just buy it, unless it has nothing I'm even remotely interested in. This time, everything but Torchlight was semi-interesting so I bought it, for $5.94. Can't beat that.

[gschwendt]

Not sure what I'm missing but 1TB SSD (albeit PCI-E) for $200? Ummm... tell me why I should hold off?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227753


Only thing I've found is that it's not guaranteed that it would work as a bootable drive depending on your motherboard but even if not, it would be beautiful with a 60GB boot SSD and use this as primary storage. Thoughts?


*Edit... nevermind, it's actually a hybrid PCI-E drive. It uses 100GB flash for cache and a spinner for the actual storage.

[gschwendt]

SSD Deals
http://www.techbargains.com/news_displayItem.cfm/316029

I finally made the jump picking up the 90GB Vertex 3. If you make the jump, after reading, you want to go SATA3 even if your motherboard is SATA2. #1 for future upgrade but #2 you still get a higher bump with SATA3.

[JBHuskers]

Seems like there are always a ton of SSD deals on SlickDeals.

[gschwendt]

Seems like there are always a ton of SSD deals on SlickDeals.
Yeah, here lately they've been on sale practically every day. That's what has been tempting before I finally caved. I'm hoping that maybe that signifies a permanent drop to where they'll be more comparable to HDDs in the near future.

[oweb26]

Anyone besides me have killing floor? I think IOU has it what do you think? I thought it was pretty damn entertaining wish it was on 360 or I need to get a controller for my PC but entertaing none the less.

[gschwendt]

Anyone besides me have killing floor? I think IOU has it what do you think? I thought it was pretty damn entertaining wish it was on 360 or I need to get a controller for my PC but entertaing none the less.
I have it but got really bored with it. I played it with my clan and they had played much more than me so it just became me standing around shooting whatever small demons made it through or re-sealing a door or some other small task. I then played it solo and it was OK but not something I would want to spend much time with.

[I OU a Beatn]

Anyone interested by either Natural Selection 2 or Primal Carnage? They both recently released and I'm majorly intrigued by both of them, especially Primal Carnage. I'm having a little trouble pulling the trigger though since there's virtually zero reviews so far. I'd imagine it would be quite hard to balance out dinosaurs vs humans, which is the main reason I'm hesitant.

[morsdraconis]

I would be if my interest in competitive shooters wasn't non-existent at the moment. I'm just so sick of playing games with people right now, I'd be hard pressed to find much interest in either.

[oweb26]

I saw it on steam and was interested for about 20 min but couldnt get myself to pull the trigger at this moment especially with my holiday gaming list getting so much depth to it.

[I OU a Beatn]

Anyone want a Primal Fears beta key?

[oweb26]

Anyone want a Primal Fears beta key?

Ill take it if you havent given it out yet.

[morsdraconis]

I'm going to post this in several different places so that anyone that could possibly want one will have a chance at it.

Arenanet (creator of Guild Wars and Guild Wars 2) is offering a Refer A Friend free trial for three people. The trial starts November 15th and lasts until midnight on the 18th. They'll be available to me to send out to people on the 12th (giving you plenty of time to download the client and everything).

I know most people here aren't too into MMOs, but this one is fuckin' fantastic (been pretty much all I've been playing for 2 months now) and, if you join, I'll create a new character and run around with ya and show ya the ropes. :)

If you want one, just let me know and I'll get you it when it becomes available to me on the 12th. There are only 3, so first come first serve (doubt I'll have to worry about that though).

[I OU a Beatn]

Prototype 1 + 2 + DLC $7.50 via Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A418B7Y)

They both activate on Steam.

Also, does anyone want a coupon for 50% off Alan Wake Collector's Edition or 50% off the Goblin Menace DLC for Trine 2? Both are for Steam.

[gschwendt]

http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/82812/green-man-gaming-pc-digital-download-games-borderlands-2-34-xcom-enemy-unknown-32.50-chivalry-medieval-warfare?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+SlickdealsnetFP+%28SlickDeals .net+Frontpage%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher

GMG Code GMG35-5BRU6-ZDRX7 applies to:


Chivalry: Medieval Warfare (http://slickdeals.net/?pno=82812&lno=2&afsrc=1&trd=Chivalry+Medieval+Warfare) $16.25
XCOM: Enemy Unknown (http://slickdeals.net/?pno=82812&lno=3&afsrc=1&trd=XCOM+Enemy+Unknown) $32.50
Borderlands 2 (http://slickdeals.net/?pno=82812&lno=4&afsrc=1&trd=Borderlands+2) $34.45

[I OU a Beatn]

That's temping for XCOM.

[gigemaggs99]

Not sure how many other Flight Simmers are out there like me here at TGT, but if you are one of the many nice add-ons I've found is AirHauler. http://www.airhauler.net/

It's a cool company manager type add-on that not only allows you to fly your planes, but you manage the fuel, cargo runs, pilots in your company, planes in your fleet, etc...there are virtual airlines out there that are similar to leagues in NCAA or Madden but the nice thing about AH vs virtual airlines is you earn virtual money and can actually do something with it (i.e. purchase a new airport for expanding your base of operations, purchase/lease new aircraft to increase you range and fleet size, higher new AI pilots, etc...) it's a pretty cool add-on that gives you something extra to do.

JustFlight has it 50% off right now. http://www.justflight.com/product/air-hauler-boxed

As far as other great add-ons, I'm a GA (general aircraft) guy first. The big iron planes like the Boeing 737, 747, Airbus, etc are fun to fly but they are more about flight planning, flight management system programming and then once you take off you let the autopilot take over it pretty does everything for you and then you take over to land. This is how they do it in real life for the most part, but it can be "less interesting". This is why I like the smaller planes, i.e. Cessna 172, Piper Archer, etc...smaller planes that may not even have an autopilot system. Some do have them but a lot don't and you have to hand fly the plane either visually or through your instruments and tuning your radios (IFR).

I picked up these controls last year and it's been pretty damn fun! http://www.sportys.com/source/images/products/large/16797a.jpg That's not my desk just an image I found online of the product. It includes the yoke, rudder pedals w/ toe brakes, throttle quad w/ extra programmable buttons (i.e lights, gear, flaps, etc) and trim wheel.

I also picked up this little gem http://www.rogerdodger.net/diyflightsims/k172_ga_keyboard.html it looks pretty damn professional once it's all said and done, my wife saw the keyboard (picked up a cheap one at walmart for around $10) and said, wow that looks store bought! I smiled, it was easy to make once you had the template and materials list.

This is my lastest toy that is on order should be here soon it's called TrackIR.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AO0F5sLdVM

[gschwendt]

Steam Autumn sale underway... first day is meh IMO
http://store.steampowered.com/

[morsdraconis]

Just bought this game. Looks fun as hell:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEzfzis725k

[gschwendt]

Since Amazon has Dishonored for $25, I'm hoping Steam matches that price. If Amazon had it as a downloadable title, I'd get it now but they're only offering the physical copy.

[jaymo76]

I came across the game PORT ROYALE 3. I was about to download it onto my laptop when I noticed it was also on PS3. It's an awesome game and it's from the makers of the Tropico series. Basically the game is 99.9% the same from PC to console which is really cool to see. I love economic/trading/casual military games such as this Tropico, Civilization, etc. I'm glad to see Kalypso media made a cross platform game. I hope other game companies will follow suit. I forgot how much fun it is to play a cpu sim style game ON CONSOLE. Anyone else played this game?

[JBHuskers]

I might be joining you guys in this discussion more. Got a new rig on Black Friday $700:

Dell XPS 8500

Intel i7-3770 3.40 GHz with Turbo Boost 2.0 up to 3.90 GHz

8GB DDR3 SDRAM AT 1600MHZ-2x4GB

AMD Radeon HD 7570 1GB GDDR5 for Win 8

1TB SATA Hard Drive 7200 RPM

XPS 8500, Black Chassis w/19:1 media card reader

Dell Wireless 1703 802.11b/g/n, Bluetooth v4.0+LE

[morsdraconis]

Not bad at all, but, sadly, you could have built that from parts for half that price. ;)

Actually, worse than that, you got kinda screwed because that computer basically has onboard video, which is atrocious for video games.

[JBHuskers]

Not bad at all, but, sadly, you could have built that from parts for half that price. ;)

From what I heard the processor itself goes for $300 on Newegg. So probably a little more than half.

[morsdraconis]

From what I heard the processor itself goes for $300 on Newegg. So probably a little more than half.

Yeah. It would be about the same, but, as I said above, you got fucked in the video card department. Video card is definitely going to SEVERELY hold you back.

[gschwendt]

Actually, worse than that, you got kinda screwed because that computer basically has onboard video, which is atrocious for video games.
Yeah... I told him he'll want to upgrade that video card as a first measure. That said, my research says that the 7570 is equivalent to the GeForce 9800 which was a hell of a card for it's time. I had that a couple years ago and could run most games without any issue, though I would have to tweak with the settings in most cases. That said, the processor itself will help out in a lot of games on it's own. He won't be running Skyrim at max settings but he'll be able to play GTAIV, DayZ, etc. at fairly high settings.




Speaking for me personally, I jumped on the Spectre 32" 1080p TV from Newegg to use as my primary monitor for $200. It will be overkill, but I'll love it in the process. I was wanting to find a 27" but practically all of those were more expensive... I figure what the hell, I can scoot my chair further back if needed :)

[JBHuskers]

You're going to go blind :D

Yeah I'm going to upgrade the video card at tax time most likely. The only game I'm really wanting to play at this point on PC is DayZ. But wanted a lot more processing power for making videos.

[JBHuskers]

So since I'm so far out of the PC gaming community...what's a good way to control the games? Get a controller? Mouse & Keyboard?

[gschwendt]

So since I'm so far out of the PC gaming community...what's a good way to control the games? Get a controller? Mouse & Keyboard?
I just stick with mouse & keyboard... just get a decent mouse (I prefer the Logitech gaming mice). WASD controls become second nature after awhile.

[morsdraconis]

I just stick with mouse & keyboard... just get a decent mouse (I prefer the Logitech gaming mice). WASD controls become second nature after awhile.

:+1:

[JBHuskers]

:up:

Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2

[JeffHCross]

Actually, worse than that, you got kinda screwed because that computer basically has onboard video, which is atrocious for video games.A physical card with 1 GB of GDDR5 is "basically onboard video" now? Man, things have changed in the PC market. Glad I'm done with it, after all. I miss EVE, but keeping up with the Joneses is tough.

( Yes, I know 1 GB is a small amount now. It's just amazing how things have changed. )

[gschwendt]

A physical card with 1 GB of GDDR5 is "basically onboard video" now? Man, things have changed in the PC market. Glad I'm done with it, after all. I miss EVE, but keeping up with the Joneses is tough.

( Yes, I know 1 GB is a small amount now. It's just amazing how things have changed. )
It's not so much the 1GB but more so the model... it's a mid grade model, though I imagine you already knew that. It's certainly better than onboard video but it's not anything to write home about in terms of today's high-end games.

[gschwendt]

Looking, you actually can't even purchase a 7000 series card below 7750 (both newegg & pricewatch). You can find a 6570 for $45 after MiR on newegg and it has 1GB as well.

Also of note, you can buy a 1GB physical card for as low was $20 after MiR or a 2GB for $40... anymore, memory with a graphics card isn't important, it's the GPU with it.

[JeffHCross]

it's not anything to write home about in terms of today's high-end games.Yeah, I knew that.

Looking, you actually can't even purchase a 7000 series card below 7750 (both newegg & pricewatch).I noticed that too. I sat on that post for a little while, trying to confirm that the 7570 was actually a card and not actually onboard graphics.

Just for perspective, the last time I had a working PC with a working graphics card was around 3 years ago. I believe my last card was a nVidia 8800GTS (or maybe that was just my last working card). My current laptop has 1 GB of RAM and my last working desktop (used only for browsing and the occasional spreadsheet) had less than 512 MB of RAM.

I'm fully aware those two machines are absolute crap. They're crap because I'm saving money until I can actually afford to spend it. But they are valuable for perspective, when JB's GPU has more RAM than a whole desktop I was using. It's just amazing how things have changed, where a 1GB dedicated card is barely better than on-board.

[gschwendt]

Just for perspective, the last time I had a working PC with a working graphics card was around 3 years ago. I believe my last card was a nVidia 8800GTS (or maybe that was just my last working card). My current laptop has 1 GB of RAM and my last working desktop (used only for browsing and the occasional spreadsheet) had less than 512 MB of RAM.
If it makes you feel any better, I have 16GB RAM and 1.5GB memory on my graphics card.

[JeffHCross]

If it makes you feel any better, I have 16GB RAM and 1.5GB memory on my graphics card.Lol. I genuinely couldn't care less. Because if I wanted to, I know I could have that. I just have no interest in an enthusiast PC right now.

[morsdraconis]

Lol. I genuinely couldn't care less. Because if I wanted to, I know I could have that. I just have no interest in an enthusiast PC right now.

That's not enthusiast at all Jeff. You could build a PC with 16 gigs of RAM, a 2.5 gig Video card, a 2 TB HD, and a processor that's better than what Tommy and I have right now (AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz) for $500, easily. PC's aren't expensive if you build them yourself (as I'm sure you know).

Personally, I need to upgrade the RAM in my computer because I went cheap and only got 4 gigs worth and I can tell it's bottlenecking my performance. Though, while I'm at it, I'll probably upgrade my video card as well since it's a bit on the low side as well (currently Geforce GTX 460 Fermi).

[gschwendt]

Lol. I genuinely couldn't care less. Because if I wanted to, I know I could have that. I just have no interest in an enthusiast PC right now.
Yeah, I figured... I just saw an opportunity to keep a running joke going.

[JBHuskers]

First thing I'll do is get Arma II to play DayZ :nod:

[JBHuskers]

Okay, so Arma II is definitely one get. What else should I get that is a PC only (not on console) title? Guild Wars II?

[I OU a Beatn]

You better have tons of time if you want something like Guild Wars. I'd recommend Diablo 3 if you like dungeon crawlers, but it's back up to full price after being $10 at the Microsoft Store a few days ago. Planetside 2 just released on Steam and is free and very good. Amnesia is another good one if you like psychological horror.

If your card has PhysX support, Borderlands 2. The effects are awesome.

[JBHuskers]

I've never played Diablo. I might try to get I & II and give them a whirl.

I definitely want to get the new Sim City too.

[oweb26]

You better have tons of time if you want something like Guild Wars. I'd recommend Diablo 3 if you like dungeon crawlers, but it's back up to full price after being $10 at the Microsoft Store a few days ago. Planetside 2 just released on Steam and is free and very good. Amnesia is another good one if you like psychological horror.

If your card has PhysX support, Borderlands 2. The effects are awesome.


Do you have diablo 3? How is it?

Minus the no reason to replay the game excuse is it worth one playthrough?

[I OU a Beatn]

I really enjoyed it. I only beat it once but I plan on going back through all the difficulties eventually. I love looting games, though, so maybe I'm biased.

[JBHuskers]

I really enjoyed it. I only beat it once but I plan on going back through all the difficulties eventually. I love looting games, though, so maybe I'm biased.

I like 'em too.

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[I OU a Beatn]

I like 'em too.

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In that case, Torchlight and Torchlight 2. They're both amazing.

[gschwendt]

I've never gotten into Diablo or Torchlight simply because I hate the click to move games... similar to Dragon Age.

[JBHuskers]

In that case, Torchlight and Torchlight 2. They're both amazing.

I have the first one on 360.

[morsdraconis]

If you like games that make you feel like it's work to do anything, than Diablo 2 and 3 are your games. I'm SUPER biased because I LOVED 2 when I was in college, but I can't fuckin' stand 3 (the classes and their skills are all *** as fuck). I hated Torchlight because it was too silly and Torchlight 2 seems just more of the same (though I haven't played it).

I would definitely recommend checking out some of the indie games on Steam as QUITE a few of them don't have console ports and can be bought for cheap like:

Binding of Issac (GREAT rogue-like indie game)
VVVVVV (AWESOME platformer)
Terraria (2d Minecraft, but WAY better since it's more about combat and less about just fuckin' around)

Then you have some PC only games that are just fuckin' fantastic, like:

Team Fortress 2 (AMAZING free FPS)
Civilization 5 (awesome with the expansion, but if you're never played Civ games before, you can play without the expansion and have no idea that you're missing anything)
Shogun 2: Total War (my favorite of the Total War franchise - really fun RTS)


Guild Wars 2 is REALLY great, but it gets old quick (coming from someone that HATES normal MMOs but played GW2 for something in the neighborhood of 200 - 300 hours in the first 2 months but hasn't touched it in nearly a month now).

[gschwendt]

32" monitor is here (love newegg one day shipping) and as expected it's overkill, but I love it. I'll probably end up re-arranging my desk because now my body doesn't block the light from the window behind me anymore. Overall though, so far seemingly no strain on the eyes or anything.

[JBHuskers]

I bet the HD porn is amazing.

[gschwendt]

PC game suggestions...

Crysis
DayZ (Arma 2: Combined Operations)
Black Mesa Source (free mod)
Metro 2033
Team Fortress
Binding of Isaac
STALKER: Shadow of Chernobyl
Vessel
Bastion (on consoles I believe)
Braid (on consoles I believe)

As well, pretty much any console game is that much better on PC through mods or even just natively.

[I OU a Beatn]

Witcher 2 if you haven't played it on 360. It's fantastic. As G said, Bastion and Binding of Isaac are both really good(I played Bastion on 360).

[oweb26]

I just bought torchlight 2 and haven't fired it up yet(outside of the demo) The click to move system is taking me sometime to get use to.

[I OU a Beatn]

I love click to move games. I don't know what it is, but if it's click to move and it has loot, I'll love it.

[JeffHCross]

PC's aren't expensive if you build them yourself (as I'm sure you know).I do, though as of a few years ago that wasn't nearly as true. You could build cheaper than a Dell, sure, but a boutique shop like Voodoo or Falcon could give my own build a run for it's money, especially when you consider labor and reliability.

That's not enthusiast at all Jeff.True. I was both saying I could have G's PC and an enthusiast PC. If I wanted to, I could easily drop a lot of money on a PC. No point in an expensive paperweight though.


Yeah, I figured... I just saw an opportunity to keep a running joke going.Yeah, I know. You love that joke :D And, like always, I decided to go with the straight man response ;)

[gschwendt]

Stealth Bastard Deluxe on Steam today

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=To_bHeDc6yA

[I OU a Beatn]

I feel like punching myself in the face for not getting Doom 3 BFG when it was on sale for $11 yesterday at Green Man Gaming. Idiot.

[JBHuskers]

12/7 seems so far away right now. But at least it's a Friday so I'll be up all night setting shit up.

[I OU a Beatn]

It really bums me out that Green Man Gaming isn't allowed to sell Far Cry 3 in the States and Amazon is selling a version that requires Ubi's client. I guess I'll have to buy from Steam.

How does Dishonored look on PC, G? I noticed you were playing it the other day.

[I OU a Beatn]

Also, Alien Vs Predator is $4.99 today on GMG. Coupon code GMG25-G4VDR-0ZL4Q makes it $3.75.

[gschwendt]

How does Dishonored look on PC, G? I noticed you were playing it the other day.
It looks really good IMO... the graphics aren't mind blowing but for their style, they look good. The part I love is that loading is very fast... typically in games you'll see 15-30 seconds loading between areas, this is typically under 5 for me.

[gschwendt]

How does Dishonored look on PC, G? I noticed you were playing it the other day.

It looks really good IMO... the graphics aren't mind blowing but for their style, they look good. The part I love is that loading is very fast... typically in games you'll see 15-30 seconds loading between areas, this is typically under 5 for me.
Here's a video showing the difference (very little) in PC vs consoles, however the big ticket item is at 2:45 showing just how much faster PC load time is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Y400baMPmtY

[morsdraconis]

Stealth Bastard Deluxe on Steam today

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=To_bHeDc6yA

Looks like a very frustratingly hard game. I might check it out when it's on sale.

[JBHuskers]

That definitely looks like a break your keyboard game.

[gschwendt]

It really bums me out that Green Man Gaming isn't allowed to sell Far Cry 3 in the States and Amazon is selling a version that requires Ubi's client. I guess I'll have to buy from Steam.
Can you not just use the activation code in Steam? I bought the physical version from Amazon (since I had a $30 coupon for non-digital) and am hoping to just take the activation and plug it into Steam.

[I OU a Beatn]

I'm not sure, but yesterday on the Amazon product page it said that the Ubisoft client was required. Now it just says that you need to have a UPlay account.

[morsdraconis]

Played the demo of Torchlight 2 last night. Wow, I guess I have to buy it now and actually play it. Damn.

[morsdraconis]

(sigh) I was going to but Steam is freakin' down again.

[oweb26]

I actually enjoy torchlight 2 now that I have given it more time. Played about 40 min last night, its simple and addicting and after awhile I didnt realize I was clicking to move (only when I was clicking to move when I was actually clicking to attack someone).

[oweb26]

Can you not just use the activation code in Steam? I bought the physical version from Amazon (since I had a $30 coupon for non-digital) and am hoping to just take the activation and plug it into Steam.

I have tried this before it simply doesn't work, I actually bought a digital copy and tried to activate on Steam before as well and I dint have any luck, so unless something has changed that I don't know about it wont work.

[gschwendt]

I have tried this before it simply doesn't work, I actually bought a digital copy and tried to activate on Steam before as well and I dint have any luck, so unless something has changed that I don't know about it wont work.

If it uses steamworks, I know you can because I did it for Dishonored from Gamely and others before it from Amazon. Those were all digital though so not sure about physical copies.

[I OU a Beatn]

AMAZING THQ Humble Bundle (https://www.humblebundle.com/)

[morsdraconis]

AMAZING THQ Humble Bundle (https://www.humblebundle.com/)

Nice! Just snatched that up.

[JBHuskers]

AMAZING THQ Humble Bundle (https://www.humblebundle.com/)

Damn. Thanks for the heads up.

[morsdraconis]

I bought it and I never got my email with the link to the Steam codes. :( I emailed their support and haven't gotten anything back yet either. Disappointing.

[JBHuskers]

I bought it and I never got my email with the link to the Steam codes. :( I emailed their support and haven't gotten anything back yet either. Disappointing.

Mine redirected me to another webpage to generate my Steam codes. Go back to the site and pull up your order.

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[morsdraconis]

I bought it at work so I couldn't just install them after I bought them as I was counting on the email to supply the link to the code page again. The humble bundle guys figured it out and sent me an email with the link. Not sure how it happened, but I never got the email before, but it's thankfully fixed.

[I OU a Beatn]

Spec Ops the Line will be $5 at some point today through Amazon. Activates on Steam.

[morsdraconis]

Oh shit. Gonna have to jump on that one.

[morsdraconis]

FYI, Endless Space is $14.99 on Steam until December 30th. (http://store.steampowered.com/app/208140/)

[I OU a Beatn]

Spec Ops the Line for $5. Activates via Steam:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0085NTITS/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B0085NTITS&linkCode=as2&tag=thegamtai-20 (http://bit.ly/gsbf-specops-theline)

Price will go through during checkout.

[JBHuskers]

I'm on it!

[gschwendt]

Never had much interest but easy decision for $5.

[I OU a Beatn]

I also got a $5 promo, so that makes it even better. It was sent via email, so you all probably should have gotten one too.

[gschwendt]

I also got a $5 promo, so that makes it even better. It was sent via email, so you all probably should have gotten one too.
I got a $5 promo on future downloadable title and also other promos for a couple of random games I've never heard of... I think like some sort of freemium RPG or something.

[morsdraconis]

Awesome stuff. Snatched that up. I'd been meaning to just pirate it, but, for $5, I'll buy it. Apparently the story is pretty damn good.

[oweb26]

http://www.shacknews.com/article/76860/weekend-pc-download-deals-bundles-galore

Weekend deals!

[morsdraconis]

Anyone that hasn't played it, I DEFINITELY recommend downloading and playing Endless Space for the free-to-play weekend this weekend. It's a GREAT game, just doesn't really have the depth that I thought it would.

[oweb26]

I downloaded it, but I still have no clue what I doing. I can't stop playing torchlight 2 though, damn game is addicting

[morsdraconis]

I've been playing the hell out of Torchlight 2 the last two days and today. Getting together with two friends as we plow through the game has been the most enjoyable experience I've ever had in a Diablo-like game (be it Diablo or a knockoff).

[oweb26]

I've been playing the hell out of Torchlight 2 the last two days and today. Getting together with two friends as we plow through the game has been the most enjoyable experience I've ever had in a Diablo-like game (be it Diablo or a knockoff).

What are you playing as? I am an outlander (I think that's the name) but I'm only a rank 10

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[morsdraconis]

What are you playing as? I am an outlander (I think that's the name) but I'm only a rank 10

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Well, for me, I'm insane and I dabble in quite a few things. I've made two different lvl 26 Engineers (the one I playing with my friends online as) and I've dabbled around with Outlander (currently lvl 4 or 5) and Embermage (lvl 6ish).

Outlander is fun. I REALLY like the aspect of dualwielding something and occasionally "executing" a double attack with both weapons at once. VERY cool stuff. The Embermage is interesting, but they really lack power until lvl 21 or so, which kinda sucks. The Engineer is clearly the beastly tank of the bunch. With my little healing robot, I basically never die (or really take that much damage). I'm going cannon build (the reason why I have two lvl 26s, the first one I spent points all over the place trying stuff out and kinda fucked myself once I decided what I wanted to do with my character) and using cannons in this game is fun as fuck. Combined with my embershield ability that blocks a certain amount of damage and then disappears, I'm basically a killing machine that rarely takes damage.

[JBHuskers]

Updated shipping info. Delivery TOMORROW :))

[SmoothPancakes]

Updated shipping info. Delivery TOMORROW :))

What's getting delivered tomorrow?

[JBHuskers]

What's getting delivered tomorrow?

New computer :)


I might be joining you guys in this discussion more. Got a new rig on Black Friday $700:

Dell XPS 8500

Intel i7-3770 3.40 GHz with Turbo Boost 2.0 up to 3.90 GHz

8GB DDR3 SDRAM AT 1600MHZ-2x4GB

AMD Radeon HD 7570 1GB GDDR5 for Win 8

1TB SATA Hard Drive 7200 RPM

XPS 8500, Black Chassis w/19:1 media card reader

Dell Wireless 1703 802.11b/g/n, Bluetooth v4.0+LE

[JBHuskers]

I just looked at FedEx's website, it was delivered 10 minutes ago!

[SmoothPancakes]

New computer :)

Nice. I must have missed that discussion somehow. :D

[I OU a Beatn]

Pretty nice little sale on Steam until 12/10:

Steam Sale (http://store.steampowered.com/sale/big_picture_release?snr=1_4_4__118)

EDIT:

A better link (http://store.steampowered.com/search/?category1=998&category2=28)

[morsdraconis]

Pretty nice little sale on Steam until 12/10:

Steam Sale (http://store.steampowered.com/sale/big_picture_release?snr=1_4_4__118)

EDIT:

A better link (http://store.steampowered.com/search/?category1=998&category2=28)

Only game there that I'm interested in is Orcs Must Die 2, but I'll probably purchase Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved and Audiosurf as both of those games are games that I've been meaning to buy as well.

Also, Wizorb for $0.74 is a fuckin' steal and a half. Great little Arkanoid-like game with some cool twists of the formula.

[JBHuskers]

I think I have G on my friends list, but send me a Steam friend request (JBHuskers)

[oweb26]

I just put Port Royale 3 on my wishlist and since it is cheaper I might just pick it up.I am a sucker for strategy games.

[I OU a Beatn]

Afterfall Insanity made it's way onto Steam today thanks to Greenlight. Definitely getting it as soon as it drops under $10.

Question for those who have used Steam longer than me: would I be correct in assuming that the chances are pretty good that both Deadlight and Mark of the Ninja will be even cheaper during the winter sale? Also, I've been wanting to play Bastion...how often does it go on sale during Steam's seasonal sales?

[gschwendt]

Pretty much anything non-COD will go on a nice sale after 6 months or even less. Bastion should be available really cheap, $5 or less I would assume sometime in the not-so-distant future.

[morsdraconis]

Pretty much anything non-COD will go on a nice sale after 6 months or even less. Bastion should be available really cheap, $5 or less I would assume sometime in the not-so-distant future.

:+1:

Steam is great for getting games on ubersale after a while. Basically the entire reason why I never buy a game when it first comes out.

[JBHuskers]

Not all games on Steam have achievements, right?

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[gschwendt]

Not all games on Steam have achievements, right?

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Most do but not quite all.

[JBHuskers]

Most do but not quite all.

What is the best way to tell?

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[gschwendt]

What is the best way to tell?

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On each steam page it will list the available achievements.

[I OU a Beatn]

What is the best way to tell?

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It usually says on the store page in the right column, but you can also visit steamcommunity.com/stats. However, that site isn't always right from what I've seen. For example, it says Assassin's Creed 3 has Steam achievements when it does not.

[JBHuskers]

It usually says on the store page in the right column, but you can also visit steamcommunity.com/stats. However, that site isn't always right from what I've seen. For example, it says Assassin's Creed 3 has Steam achievements when it does not.

Awesome. Already hooked it up. Will work on installing stuff when I get home.

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[JeffHCross]

What is the best way to tell?

Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2And cue the Steam Achievement Whores thread in 3 ...... 2 .......

[SmoothPancakes]

And cue the Steam Achievement Whores thread in 3 ...... 2 .......

:D :D :D

It was only a matter of time!

[JBHuskers]

And cue the Steam Achievement Whores thread in 3 ...... 2 .......


:D :D :D

It was only a matter of time!

:nod: :D

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[steelerfan]

:nod: :D

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:fp:

:D

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[JBHuskers]

Hope Arma II and the DLC to play DayZ goes on sale, or the standalone is released soon.

[JBHuskers]

Only game there that I'm interested in is Orcs Must Die 2, but I'll probably purchase Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved and Audiosurf as both of those games are games that I've been meaning to buy as well.

Also, Wizorb for $0.74 is a fuckin' steal and a half. Great little Arkanoid-like game with some cool twists of the formula.

Got Wizorb. Love brick breakers.

[I OU a Beatn]

The standalone release is supposed to be by the end of the year, or at least it was the last I heard. I haven't seen Arma go on sale yet, so I'm just waiting for the standalone release since I'm sure it'll be the main focus from now on.

[morsdraconis]

Yeah, Arma doesn't go on sale very often (I think it went on sale briefly during the Summer sale, but, even then, I think it was only 33% off for the entire collection or something like that). It's mainly the reason why I haven't gotten it (along with the fact that I'd be downloading a game solely to play a mod).

Anyone checking out Planetside 2 yet? I've been meaning to, but I've been busy trying to finish up The Walking Dead (just finished episode 3 :( ).

[JBHuskers]

For 74¢ Wizorb is a great brick breaker. Played some before going to sleep last night.

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[JBHuskers]

In regards to Arma, yeah I'm not paying $30 or $40 now when a more stable standalone is just around the corner.

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[gschwendt]

The standalone release is supposed to be by the end of the year, or at least it was the last I heard. I haven't seen Arma go on sale yet, so I'm just waiting for the standalone release since I'm sure it'll be the main focus from now on.
The last blog from Rocket was that they were still hopeful for end of year release but possibly could push it back depending on testing of new engine aspects that were coming down the pipe this past week. Expected to hear more soon to know for sure.

[morsdraconis]

FYI, indie game Don't Starve is $11.99 for two copies on Steam at the moment (not sure if it's the normal price or not). Game looks pretty deep already (still in Beta) for $6 if you have someone else to split the cost with (especially since when it hits actually out stage, it'll be $12 for one copy).

[JBHuskers]

FYI, indie game Don't Starve is $11.99 for two copies on Steam at the moment (not sure if it's the normal price or not). Game looks pretty deep already (still in Beta) for $6 if you have someone else to split the cost with (especially since when it hits actually out stage, it'll be $12 for one copy).

Looks interesting. Not out til March it looks like.

[I OU a Beatn]

FYI, indie game Don't Starve is $11.99 for two copies on Steam at the moment (not sure if it's the normal price or not). Game looks pretty deep already (still in Beta) for $6 if you have someone else to split the cost with (especially since when it hits actually out stage, it'll be $12 for one copy).

If you're looking for someone to split the cost with, I'll pitch in $6. I played it during the closed beta and it's very fun. I stopped so that I'm not burned out by the time the game actually comes out, but I really liked it.

[morsdraconis]

If you're looking for someone to split the cost with, I'll pitch in $6. I played it during the closed beta and it's very fun. I stopped so that I'm not burned out by the time the game actually comes out, but I really liked it.

Thanks for the offer, but I split it with someone else already and I watched a video of it on Youtube of two guys playing and it looked extremely fun. Just played for like 20 minutes and died because I adventured out too far, but it's definitely interesting. I was starting to build up stuff and was getting close to having log armor and being ready to really wreck some shit.

[JBHuskers]

Beatn, I can probably split with you.

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[I OU a Beatn]

Thanks for the offer, but I split it with someone else already and I watched a video of it on Youtube of two guys playing and it looked extremely fun. Just played for like 20 minutes and died because I adventured out too far, but it's definitely interesting. I was starting to build up stuff and was getting close to having log armor and being ready to really wreck some shit.

Yeah, it's pretty damn deep for a game of it's style, which kind of caught me off guard. The version I played was through Chrome and kind of buggy, so I'm interested to see any changes they've made.


Beatn, I can probably split with you.

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Sounds good. Just let me know whenever/if you decide you want to. I believe you do get instant access to the beta if you buy now, but I'm sure that offer will stand for another several weeks yet.

[morsdraconis]

Yeah, it's pretty damn deep for a game of it's style, which kind of caught me off guard. The version I played was through Chrome and kind of buggy, so I'm interested to see any changes they've made.



Sounds good. Just let me know whenever/if you decide you want to. I believe you do get instant access to the beta if you buy now, but I'm sure that offer will stand for another several weeks yet.

Yeah, it's instant access to the beta.

[JBHuskers]

Sine Mora $3.39 on Steam via Amazon. Yay or Nay?

[JBHuskers]

Also in terms of gaming mice....are these two cheaper ones okay just for me who's not overly going to get serious? Both are rated at 4.5 stars.

http://www.amazon.com/Cobra-E-3lue-Precision-Control-1600dpi/dp/B005CPGHAA/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1354693327&sr=1-1&keywords=gaming+mouse

http://www.amazon.com/CM-Storm-Xornet-Switches-SGM-2001-BLON1/dp/B005TEPB74/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1354693327&sr=1-2&keywords=gaming+mouse

[morsdraconis]

Also in terms of gaming mice....are these two cheaper ones okay just for me who's not overly going to get serious? Both are rated at 4.5 stars.

http://www.amazon.com/Cobra-E-3lue-Precision-Control-1600dpi/dp/B005CPGHAA/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1354693327&sr=1-1&keywords=gaming+mouse

http://www.amazon.com/CM-Storm-Xornet-Switches-SGM-2001-BLON1/dp/B005TEPB74/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1354693327&sr=1-2&keywords=gaming+mouse

Either of those would be fine. Really, anything above 2000 dpi is overkill. I have one that goes up to 4000, and it's utterly insane trying to do anything with that high of a setting. Number of buttons really shouldn't be a factor unless you actually plan on using it for a MMO or somethin' (and, even then, in my experience, it's a waste).

[I OU a Beatn]

Sine Mora $3.39 on Steam via Amazon. Yay or Nay?

If you like Shoot 'em Ups, it's hard to go wrong with Sine Mora. I got it yesterday but haven't gotten around to playing it yet.

[morsdraconis]

Oh shit, I didn't realize it was a Shmup. Hell yeah! I'm definitely gonna have to purchase it.

[oweb26]

Its the same price on Steam now unless you really want to go through Amazon for some reason.

[JBHuskers]

Either of those would be fine. Really, anything above 2000 dpi is overkill. I have one that goes up to 4000, and it's utterly insane trying to do anything with that high of a setting. Number of buttons really shouldn't be a factor unless you actually plan on using it for a MMO or somethin' (and, even then, in my experience, it's a waste).

Appreciate it. Didn't want to spend much more than $20-$30 on one. I'm not going to get all hardcore on it LOL but would like one more designed for gaming than my Logitech ergo regular mouse.

[JBHuskers]

Played some Team Fortress 2 last night. I can't remember the last time I played with a keyboard and mouse. :D I didn't do anything fancy, just used my movement buttons and firing my gun. And jumping here and there :D

[I OU a Beatn]

I'm still not used to WASD for movement. I wish there was some device that allowed me to use an analog stick for movement and then a mouse for aiming.

[morsdraconis]

Man, WASD is second nature to me, but I've been using it for movement since Doom 2.

[I OU a Beatn]

Seriously, what is Scribblenauts? I've seen everyone raving about it and you can get 30% off of it on Green Man Gaming, so naturally I'm intrigued, but I have no idea what it is from looking at screenshots and watching game play videos.

[morsdraconis]

THQ Humble Bundle added Titan Quest and the DLC for Red Faction: Armageddon as well for anyone that bought it or hasn't bought it yet. (http://www.humblebundle.com/)

[JeffHCross]

I'm still not used to WASD for movement. I wish there was some device that allowed me to use an analog stick for movement and then a mouse for aiming.http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-n52te-Tournament-Edition-SpeedPad/dp/B000WMEHYG ??

[I OU a Beatn]

http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-n52te-Tournament-Edition-SpeedPad/dp/B000WMEHYG ??

I was actually looking at something like that the other day, but the terminology they use(8 way directional) makes me think it's more similar to a d-pad than an analog stick.