Are you starting as Head Coach or Coordinator?

[SmoothPancakes]

As the title says, what is everyone starting out as? You going to start out as the head coach, or are you going to start down the road of trying to make it to the big time as an offensive coordinator or defensive coordinator?

[BearDownUofA]

I'm going to start as an offensive coordinator.

[HawkFan]

Defensive Coordinator I do believe.

[Archedemius]

Either HC or DC at E. Michigan. They are so atrocious that the thought of coaching them this first year is makes me sick. HAHA! FUN! I'll know later today. Going to run some practice with them and find out.

[SmoothPancakes]

Nice, so we do have some people going with coordinator positions. I was thinking most, if not everyone, was going to go with head coach positions to start. I haven't decided yet myself. I'm thinking about either head coach or defensive coordinator.

[Coach Kernzy]

I'll be the HC of the Western Michigan Broncos. I just think with the teams we are all starting out as I want to have full control to try and give them all the best chance for success.

[Archedemius]

I'm going with HC also. Did a test run running coach with EMU. I need control of both I think. I may super sim games this year against UofM and Penn State. Those games are well out of my reach.

[JBHuskers]

If most everyone is going HC, I'll do the same.

[morsdraconis]

I'm definitely going with HC. Really no reason to make it any harder than it already will be.

[JBHuskers]

I'm definitely going with HC. Really no reason to make it any harder than it already will be.

Yeah on top of that, most of my other OD's I'm starting as a coordinator.

[EatEmUp]

Yeah on top of that, most of my other OD's I'm starting as a coordinator.

I've got a couple here at home with friends that I'll be going the coordinator route. Just ran a game with Utah State and I think I'm going to want control over both sides of the ball. :)

[natcret]

I was thinking DC, but since it seems that the majority is going for HC, then I will go for HC as well.

[HawkFan]

Yep I will be going head coach as well. After playing a couple with New Mexico I need to control both sides to have any chance. Plus to echo what others said I have a couple where I am going the coordinator route, so here's to starting as a head coach.

[SmoothPancakes]

I just posted this in the Settings/Rules forum, and as it is an issue we have to address, I'm posting it in here too.


Just to make it official, on the topic of recruiting advisors, toughest places to play boost, etc, the "Time Savers" as they're called, Coach Kernzy, when you create the OD, under Dynasty Rules, there is an option titled Allow Time Savers that you can turn on and off. That'll be the option to turn off the DLC stuff like recruiting advisors, extra pipeline state, etc.

Also, a nice little thing, just in general that I'm currently seeing. After you get done setting up the House Rules for the OD, it brings up a "Before You Begin..." screen that allows you to limit the first job type to coordinator or head coach and max team prestige for your first job from 1 to 6 stars.

However, this appears to bring up a bit of an issue guys. We're going to have to decide to go either all Head Coach or all Coordinator. In the First Job Type selections to limit people in the OD to only that job type to start out their OD career at, the only options are Head Coach or Coordinator. There's no both or either/or option. So it looks like we'll have to make a choice between all starting at head coach or all starting at coordinator. After that first job, you can go whichever route you want, coordinator or head coach. But it's the first job we all have to be on the same page.

[SmoothPancakes]

Alright guys, in light of the "discovery" that I've made regarding our initial starting jobs for the dynasty (everyone has to start as either head coach or coordinator, there can't be a mix), I have now added a poll for everyone to vote in regarding what we should do. Choices are simple. Do we all start out as a head coach, or do we all start out as coordinators? If coordinators is chosen, it would still be each person's individual choice as to whether they wanted to start as offensive or defensive coordinator.

[Coach Kernzy]

I think it'll be best and it looks like the consensus anyway for us all to start as head coaches.

[JBHuskers]

Yeah, as someone said previously, it's going to be hard enough as it is.

[Coach Kernzy]

Based on this (http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/forums/showthread.php?2781-Potential-Dynasty-Issue-Skewed-Time-of-Possession-as-Coordinator) time of possession issue with being a coordinator and the fact that most are doing HC anyway I'm going to require that everyone start with HC jobs so we don't have any issues. We'll revisit it before season 2 to see if EA has patched/tuned that issue so that coordinator jobs are a viable option.

[SmoothPancakes]

Based on this (http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/forums/showthread.php?2781-Potential-Dynasty-Issue-Skewed-Time-of-Possession-as-Coordinator) time of possession issue with being a coordinator and the fact that most are doing HC anyway I'm going to require that every start and stay with HC jobs so we don't have any issues.

Wait, we have to stay a head coach no matter what at all times? So if I get a DC or OC offer from a good school, and my only choices are be a coordinator at the good school or stay head coach at my crappy school, I have to stay as head coach?

[Coach Kernzy]

Based on that link there is a TOP issue when you are a coordinator so I don't think that's a good option for us.
Also based on what I'm reading about the coaching carousel there is never going to be a lack of job offers or openings.
We still have a full season to have to worry about it but I definitely want everyone starting as a HC and then maybe by our season 2 EA will have patched or tuned the TOP issue relating to being a coordinator.

[SmoothPancakes]

Based on that link there is a TOP issue when you are a coordinator so I don't think that's a good option for us.
Also based on what I'm reading about the coaching carousel there is never going to be a lack of job offers or openings.
We still have a full season to have to worry about it but I definitely want everyone starting as a HC and then maybe by our season 2 EA will have patched or tuned the TOP issue relating to being a coordinator.

I know there's never going to be a lack of job openings. I just don't know what kind of job offers you would receive. If you are guaranteed a head coach job no matter how good or bad you do, or if you'll only get coordinator offers if you suck horribly.

As for me, I personally really don't care that much about TOP in regards to my own stats. I'd rather just go to the job that is the most appealing to me in any offers I get, be it a coordinator or head coach position, instead of being forced to stay solely a head coach the entire time, in which I may end up forced to pass up offers from schools that I'd love to take as a coordinator somewhere, for a head coach position at a new crappy school that I really wouldn't care for.

For example, say I'd be forced to pass up a defensive coordinator position at Ohio, or an offensive coordinator position at Toledo, two schools I'd instantly jump at a chance to coach at (both schools I follow because they're mid-major Ohio teams), and instead am forced to either stay head coach at FIU, even though I want to take the Ohio or Toledo offers, or only be able to accept a coaching offer from say Ball State or Buffalo, two schools I do not care a tiny bit about and would never accept a coaching offer from.

That's why I think it should be left open. If the person doesn't care about the effects it'll have on their TOP, like I don't, then they should be free to go wherever they want, to whatever position they want, after their head coach stint at their starting school.

[Coach Kernzy]

I understand what you are saying, we have a full season before we have to worry about it so we'll cross that bridge when we get there. I'll revise my earlier statement regarding having to stay an HC.

[SmoothPancakes]

I understand what you are saying, we have a full season before we have to worry about it so we'll cross that bridge when we get there. I'll revise my earlier statement regarding having to stay an HC.

I know, and I know we have all season. I just wanted to make sure I got my opinion in, and it was clear and understandable what areas/issues I was concerned about, before any potential hard rules were made. Like I said, really, if the person doesn't care about their TOP and the hit it would take as a coordinator, I saw let them go the route they want. We're already restricted, no matter what each person wants to do, to either all head coaches or all coordinators just to even start the dynasty.

After that, let the freedom of Coaching Carousel play out to its fullest and let everyone run wild with their jobs instead of keeping it restricted. If they're willing to take the giant hit in their team's stats/TOP in exchange for a coordinator position, hey, more power to them. :D

[Coach Kernzy]

I'm fine with that and as I've said all along here I will run this OD as a democracy not a dictatorship, I encourage everyone here to voice their opinions and thoughts on the OD for it's betterment.

[SmoothPancakes]

I'm fine with that and as I've said all along here I will run this OD as a democracy not a dictatorship, I encourage everyone here to voice their opinions and thoughts on the OD for it's betterment.

Yeah, I mean odds are I'll probably stay a head coach throughout the dynasty, especially after starting as a head coach, I'm not sure I could give up part of the total power of running the whole time in game. :D But, if I got that coordinator offer from a team like Toledo, or Bowling Green, or Ohio or something, teams that I honestly would right there on the spot accept an offer from and know I would have a blast coaching at, and had a head coach offer for someone like Buffalo or Utah State or someplace I have absolutely no care about regarding the team and school, I'd go with the job offer from Toledo, BG, or Ohio, even if it was only a coordinator position.