NCAA Football 12 is here! Share Your Thoughts & Impressions

[bdoughty]

Play both, enjoying both but like Pig bomb mentioned I prefer NCAA due to the different play styles and number of teams.

[I OU a Beatn]

I'm actually considering going back to NCAA. I can't deal with the lack of defense on Madden. At least on NCAA, I can get stops when I know their plays, I'll just get glitched at the end. I'm beginning to think that might actually be a little less frustrating.

[oweb26]

I'm actually considering going back to NCAA. I can't deal with the lack of defense on Madden. At least on NCAA, I can get stops when I know their plays, I'll just get glitched at the end. I'm beginning to think that might actually be a little less frustrating.

ANDDDD the honeymoon period is over!! Welcome back IOU glad to know you are still on track with things. :D

[Rudy]

i like the option and all the variety the 120 teams gives me with the college game
32 teams all running the same shit gets boring fast in Madden


That's how I used to feel too. But the cpu still doesn't execute the option offenses well and it really hurts NCAA 12. If you can't get the teams like Oregon right it's a big problem and the game isn't as varied as it should be. The 120 ways to win last year was false. So instead you have cpu pro style teams which are effective, cpu wide open passing teams which are effective (and not in Madden) and unique and exciting spread-option teams which suck in NCAA. You had Tebow on the cover and teams like Oregon and Michigan making headlines last year and EA either chose not to focus on fixing this or they don't know how. Both reasons are unacceptable at this point imo. How long does it take to get this right?

And while Madden used to feel really similar from game to game the player traits really make it different this year. You can see the WRs that catch the ball in traffic. Henne sucks throwing on the run while Big Ben is good. You see QBs like Vick and Aaron Rodgers take off from the pocket but not guys like Henne. Guys like Tebow don't even throw a tight spiral consistently. Even though most NFL teams play a similar style the personality of the players is standing out. I think NCAA took a step back in the personality department. While you won't see an Air Raid offense or a spread-option team like Oregon (which the cpu can't run right anyways) the player personality in Madden is a lot better than NCAA and it does add a lot to the game.

[I OU a Beatn]

ANDDDD the honeymoon period is over!! Welcome back IOU glad to know you are still on track with things. :D

There was never a honeymoon period. I said from the get go the defense on Madden was going to be really bad. I just don't think it's asking for too much to have at least one football game that is actually playable, but apparently it is.

[Deuce]

I'm enjoying NCAA again. I got burned out after playing so much at first but now I'm averaging 1-2 games a week and really having fun. Changing my offense at the end of each season is imperative for me to not get burned out.


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[jaymo76]

That's how I used to feel too. But the cpu still doesn't execute the option offenses well and it really hurts NCAA 12. If you can't get the teams like Oregon right it's a big problem and the game isn't as varied as it should be. The 120 ways to win last year was false. So instead you have cpu pro style teams which are effective, cpu wide open passing teams which are effective (and not in Madden) and unique and exciting spread-option teams which suck in NCAA. You had Tebow on the cover and teams like Oregon and Michigan making headlines last year and EA either chose not to focus on fixing this or they don't know how. Both reasons are unacceptable at this point imo. How long does it take to get this right?

And while Madden used to feel really similar from game to game the player traits really make it different this year. You can see the WRs that catch the ball in traffic. Henne sucks throwing on the run while Big Ben is good. You see QBs like Vick and Aaron Rodgers take off from the pocket but not guys like Henne. Guys like Tebow don't even throw a tight spiral consistently. Even though most NFL teams play a similar style the personality of the players is standing out. I think NCAA took a step back in the personality department. While you won't see an Air Raid offense or a spread-option team like Oregon (which the cpu can't run right anyways) the player personality in Madden is a lot better than NCAA and it does add a lot to the game.

I tend to agree with you Rudy. I LOVE all the different play styles in NCAA but the reality is that OPTION & SPREAD teams cannot run the ball, even with massive slider tweaks. With Madden the play calling is obviously pro style, but you never know what to expect. I was blown out by Buffalo only to rebound by thumping New England. This is only the second year I have ever preffered MADDEN to NCAA (the other was Madden 10 as NCAA was plagued with issues, eg auto subs, fatigue, lack of form. subs etc.).

Don't get me wrong, NCAA is a solid game and if I hadn't been playing it for close to a decade I would probably say it's the best game ever. It's just that it needs something more to bring it alive. Presentation and atmosphere at the stadiums are dead, crowd noise and home field advantage are non-existent, and commentary has become repetitive and bland. It's time for things like dynamic commentary, halftime shows and weekly wrap-up shows to really bring the emotion back to this series. In a related topic, I see the OS writer BUMBLE has take a job at Tiburon for NCAA 13.... he can't say what he's working on but he said we will be excited. Based on the fact he has a media/journalism background I am going to say.... ESPN GAMEDAY + dynamic commentary are the big ones for NCAA 13.

[ram29jackson]

real football is only just starting...I want to get as much as i can out of both games in the next 5 to 6 months

[jaymo76]

Read an interesting premise at OS. Basically it argues since there are no physics there are no real buffers between players. Hence arms, legs, etc simply pass through bodies and since there is nothing physically there to hit, the cpu has no basis to call a P.I. Not sure how cogent the argument is but it's an interesting perspective nonetheless.

[Pig Bomb]

That's how I used to feel too. But the cpu still doesn't execute the option offenses well and it really hurts NCAA 12. If you can't get the teams like Oregon right it's a big problem and the game isn't as varied as it should be. The 120 ways to win last year was false. So instead you have cpu pro style teams which are effective, cpu wide open passing teams which are effective (and not in Madden) and unique and exciting spread-option teams which suck in NCAA. You had Tebow on the cover and teams like Oregon and Michigan making headlines last year and EA either chose not to focus on fixing this or they don't know how. Both reasons are unacceptable at this point imo. How long does it take to get this right?

And while Madden used to feel really similar from game to game the player traits really make it different this year. You can see the WRs that catch the ball in traffic. Henne sucks throwing on the run while Big Ben is good. You see QBs like Vick and Aaron Rodgers take off from the pocket but not guys like Henne. Guys like Tebow don't even throw a tight spiral consistently. Even though most NFL teams play a similar style the personality of the players is standing out. I think NCAA took a step back in the personality department. While you won't see an Air Raid offense or a spread-option team like Oregon (which the cpu can't run right anyways) the player personality in Madden is a lot better than NCAA and it does add a lot to the game.

these are some good points i may have to consider after evaluating NCAA post-patch...assuming they ever actually patch the game

[I OU a Beatn]

Read an interesting premise at OS. Basically it argues since there are no physics there are no real buffers between players. Hence arms, legs, etc simply pass through bodies and since there is nothing physically there to hit, the cpu has no basis to call a P.I. Not sure how cogent the argument is but it's an interesting perspective nonetheless.

I'd have to agree. On a majority of the picks I threw in NCAA, the defensive player would literally go through my receiver to get it. It's not only stupid looking but it's infuriating when you're playing another player. It happens on Madden, too, but to a lesser degree.

[keyser soze]

I tend to agree with you Rudy. I LOVE all the different play styles in NCAA but the reality is that OPTION & SPREAD teams cannot run the ball, even with massive slider tweaks. With Madden the play calling is obviously pro style, but you never know what to expect. I was blown out by Buffalo only to rebound by thumping New England. This is only the second year I have ever preffered MADDEN to NCAA (the other was Madden 10 as NCAA was plagued with issues, eg auto subs, fatigue, lack of form. subs etc.).

Don't get me wrong, NCAA is a solid game and if I hadn't been playing it for close to a decade I would probably say it's the best game ever. It's just that it needs something more to bring it alive. Presentation and atmosphere at the stadiums are dead, crowd noise and home field advantage are non-existent, and commentary has become repetitive and bland. It's time for things like dynamic commentary, halftime shows and weekly wrap-up shows to really bring the emotion back to this series. In a related topic, I see the OS writer BUMBLE has take a job at Tiburon for NCAA 13.... he can't say what he's working on but he said we will be excited. Based on the fact he has a media/journalism background I am going to say.... ESPN GAMEDAY + dynamic commentary are the big ones for NCAA 13.

If you house rule that you HAVE to play with 3 man fronts the CPU can run the ball... so use 3-4 or 3-3-5 and stopping the run will become more of an issue. 4 man fronts completely blow up the CPU run out of the gun this year.

[Pig Bomb]

If you house rule that you HAVE to play with 3 man fronts the CPU can run the ball... so use 3-4 or 3-3-5 and stopping the run will become more of an issue. 4 man fronts completely blow up the CPU run out of the gun this year.

i have to agree...while i win almost all my games in my dynasty vs CPU my defense is poorly rated... i feel its due to my 3 man front and the fact that the CPU will bust a 50 yard TD on me at least once per game... i also have a few house rules to avoid cheezin the CPU

[morsdraconis]

I play with nothing but 3 man fronts and still, never allow more than 50-60 yards rushing, total.

[jaymo76]

If you house rule that you HAVE to play with 3 man fronts the CPU can run the ball... so use 3-4 or 3-3-5 and stopping the run will become more of an issue. 4 man fronts completely blow up the CPU run out of the gun this year.

That is just such a sad comment. In order for the cpu to run the ball we have to change how WE play. Frustrating. Here's what EA can do... bring back NCAA 11 running pre patch 2 and put it in NCAA 12 and everyone will be happy.

[keyser soze]

That is just such a sad comment. In order for the cpu to run the ball we have to change how WE play. Frustrating. Here's what EA can do... bring back NCAA 11 running pre patch 2 and put it in NCAA 12 and everyone will be happy.

LOL, you are forgetting something, this is EA we are talking about which means that by doing that 3 other things that "work" right now will break! LOL

[keyser soze]

I play with nothing but 3 man fronts and still, never allow more than 50-60 yards rushing, total.

Well that is awesome, you must be 1337 or something! LOL
I will keep an eye out for you on the Madden bus....

[keyser soze]

Question for the masses: Does anyone know if anything breaks by putting ND in the SEC? We did this in my OD this past season and now my buddy is getting every 5-star in the game. He already has 8 5-star commits and we are in week 8. He looks like he is going to get about 50% of the 5-star players in total. We recruit on all american, nothing has changed before this. He did NOT win the NC last year. He is a 6-star program. I use Michigan and have ZERO 5-star guys thus far because he or Alabama has taken every single one of them. Any thoughts here?

[morsdraconis]

Well that is awesome, you must be 1337 or something! LOL
I will keep an eye out for you on the Madden bus....

1337? No. But, it's far too damn easy to stop the CPU run game, especially if it's a Shotgun based run game. The CPU tries to get too fancy with it's running game and ends up losing yards because of it all the time.

As for Madden, fuck Madden. That game is still trash and has been for 4 years running.

[ram29jackson]

1337? No. But, it's far too damn easy to stop the CPU run game, especially if it's a Shotgun based run game. The CPU tries to get too fancy with it's running game and ends up losing yards because of it all the time.

As for Madden, fuck Madden. That game is still trash and has been for 4 years running.


naw, Maddens not that bad this year. I do like it as opposed to last year

[xMrHitStickx904]

quick question, who is actually still playing NCAA? Just curious.

[ram29jackson]

quick question, who is actually still playing NCAA? Just curious.

i intend to play both extensively but i'm trying to get use to madden as much as possible now

[Pig Bomb]

quick question, who is actually still playing NCAA? Just curious.

i'm still playing the ass out of it...im in two 12 man OD's....we are all still having fun with it

[JBHuskers]

i'm still playing the ass out of it...im in two 12 man OD's....we are all still having fun with it

Same here, I'm in 4 OD's and still having fun with the game.

[SmoothPancakes]

I'm still playing it. Haven't had a chance to lately however due to a shit-ton going on at work right now, but once things settle down, it's back into my FIU dynasty, that I plan on running straight through to release day for NCAA 13 next year.

[JBHuskers]

Yeah. Honestly, there is a lot of annoying crap that is in this game, but overall it doesn't affect me to the point where I am completely giving up on this game. But some people like to have easy ammo to fire off at EA, and this second patch is a prime example of that.

[SmoothPancakes]

Yep. And for me, I have been one of the lucky ones. Have never had a single problem with custom playbooks. Have only had maybe 5 or 6 freezes the entire time I've owned the game, and that was when I'd leave it sitting in the recruiting board or something for a few minutes and it'd lock up.

I don't deal with the dumbass bullshit online, so I can make whatever edits I need to in terms of sliders and jump ratings of linebackers to eliminate super jumping LBs. I have experienced almost none of the problems others have complained about, so for me personally, this is still the best NCAA I have ever played and one I am going to be playing clear up until NCAA 13 releases.

[jaymo76]

Yep. And for me, I have been one of the lucky ones. Have never had a single problem with custom playbooks. Have only had maybe 5 or 6 freezes the entire time I've owned the game, and that was when I'd leave it sitting in the recruiting board or something for a few minutes and it'd lock up.

I don't deal with the dumbass bullshit online, so I can make whatever edits I need to in terms of sliders and jump ratings of linebackers to eliminate super jumping LBs. I have experienced almost none of the problems others have complained about, so for me personally, this is still the best NCAA I have ever played and one I am going to be playing clear up until NCAA 13 releases.

I agreed... up until what I have read today. If playbooks are broken and no huddle is broken... these things I do consider game killers. Reading One Back's comments were shocking but I appreciate his openess on the issues at hand.

[bdoughty]

Yep. And for me, I have been one of the lucky ones. Have never had a single problem with custom playbooks. Have only had maybe 5 or 6 freezes the entire time I've owned the game, and that was when I'd leave it sitting in the recruiting board or something for a few minutes and it'd lock up.

I don't deal with the dumbass bullshit online, so I can make whatever edits I need to in terms of sliders and jump ratings of linebackers to eliminate super jumping LBs. I have experienced almost none of the problems others have complained about, so for me personally, this is still the best NCAA I have ever played and one I am going to be playing clear up until NCAA 13 releases.

Ditto. There will always be people left unsatisfied no matter what EA puts out.

[I OU a Beatn]

*Snickers that the people that are okay with things are all offline/online dynasty users that don't play online for the most part.*

These issues that are prevalent, and have been prevalent, are going to affect the users who play online the most. That's just how it is. How would you guys like if you were playing a dynasty, about to upset the #1 team, and then they just quit and you received a loss. That's pretty much the equivalent to the issues online players face. We're not asking for EA to remove "cheese" plays, we're asking for a functional game so we can deal with them. The custom playbook glitch was a huge issue and the no huddle glitch is an even bigger one. EA didn't fix the disconnection glitch even though it should be a top priority. The goon kick has been a game breaking glitch for two years now and is widely known and yet they chose to turn a shoulder to it.

Add in things like low pass trajectory(something I CAN deal with) and terrible run blocking and you've got yourself some issues that can and already have ruined online play. I'm sure other users are affected by things like the no huddle glitch, but the online players are the ones suffering the most.

[Rudy]

so for me personally, this is still the best NCAA I have ever played and one I am going to be playing clear up until NCAA 13 releases.

It's impossible to please everyone when over 1.5 million will buy this game. But I do think they can please more people by offering more sliders and customization. Super leaping LBs is a polarizing issue. Why not put back the knockdown slider in the game which let us adjust how easily passes get knocked down? A big beef of mine was the neutering of the RBs. I feel all of the RB special moves are virtually useless. Others disagree. But the RBA slider doesn't really work this year and can't be used to fix it. Maybe sliders for the individual moves could help. The NCAA team added game speed and speed threshold which have been received very well. How about a player weight/momentum slider so we can adjust this as well? Some have complained about how difficult zone defenses are. Why didn't they split the pass coverage slider between man and zone? Sliders and options can help please a wider group of people. The fact they still refuse to add sliders for fumbles, fatigue and injuries means I probably won't be seeing these things any time soon.

Options or sliders won't fix everything. Some things like the way the cpu runs the spread need to be improved. But it would be a very nice step in the right direction.

[JBHuskers]

Honestly, I'm all about a multiple angle passing mechanic for 13. Would add a ton of variety to it.

[AustinWolv]

quick question, who is actually still playing NCAA? Just curious.
I absolutely am.

[keyser soze]

I am in season 4 of my OD and its going strong.

[psusnoop]

quick question, who is actually still playing NCAA? Just curious.

There are tons of people that still play this game, to think otherwise is silly. Heck a huge majority of my friends have no idea about any of the issues on here and honestly will probably never run into them. Take out the freezes that happen occasionally to them and they would be clueless to anything and still they even just write it off.

I play both Madden and NCAA still and will till the new ones come out. Both have flaws and issues, but I enjoy them both still.

[psuexv]

There are tons of people that still play this game, to think otherwise is silly. Heck a huge majority of my friends have no idea about any of the issues on here and honestly will probably never run into them. Take out the freezes that happen occasionally to them and they would be clueless to anything and still they even just write it off.

I play both Madden and NCAA still and will till the new ones come out. Both have flaws and issues, but I enjoy them both still.

Yeah, our other OD those peeps didn't even realize a patch was coming out or needed. The freezes and glitches are the biggest thing for me.

[uf83198]

I have bought every version of NCAA since Bill Walsh College Football on Sega. This version BY FAR has the most glitches of any of them. With that said, the game was at least playable pre-patch. However, with this patch, the No Huddle problems make this game unplayable. I can control if I use No-huddle on Offense. But I have no control over a CPU team using No huddle, so defensively, Im screwed. There are numerous other problems, but the fact that I cant just pick up the game and play offline, against the CPU, makes me feel like I wasted $60. Ive never felt this way about this series.

[keyser soze]

I have bought every version of NCAA since Bill Walsh College Football on Sega. This version BY FAR has the most glitches of any of them. With that said, the game was at least playable pre-patch. However, with this patch, the No Huddle problems make this game unplayable. I can control if I use No-huddle on Offense. But I have no control over a CPU team using No huddle, so defensively, Im screwed. There are numerous other problems, but the fact that I cant just pick up the game and play offline, against the CPU, makes me feel like I wasted $60. Ive never felt this way about this series.

Man I wish I had a dollar for every post that starts off with "I have bought every version of NCAA since Bill Walsh...."

[uf83198]

Man I wish I had a dollar for every post that starts off with "I have bought every version of NCAA since Bill Walsh...."

Well you'd have more than what I'm going to get from Gamestop for this game.

[ram29jackson]

Ditto. There will always be people left unsatisfied no matter what EA puts out.

I disagree, the last 2 years MLB the show and nba 2k have put out widely loved games with not a whole lot of obvious problems that hinder funtime and actually add to it. Those people arent unsatisfied. I played ps2 versions of NFL 2k5 last year and realized where EA was lacking years later. Aside from the fact that online games have sucked for "The Show" LOL, both sports titles surpass anything EA has done except for the last couple years of hockey....and i've never played golf, so I dont know about that LOL

[AustinWolv]

Well you'd have more than what I'm going to get from Gamestop for this game.
Sell it on Ebay, you'll get more. ;)

[psuexv]

Sell it on Ebay, you'll get more. ;)

$32 on Amazon Trade In Program - http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/s/ref=tradeinavs?url=rh%3Dn%3A979418011%26i%3Dvideog ames-tradein%26bbn%3D979418011%26rnid%3D11846801&field-keywords=ncaa+12&Go.x=0&Go.y=0

[jaymo76]

I really don't know whether to download the patch or not. I'm 100% offline so I may just not download it and continue with the problems. I can't lose no huddle and my custom playbook as is. What's the general consensus for offline???

[bdoughty]

Flip a darn Canadian Penny

If it comes up Elizabeth II - Don't download the patch and wait and see if patch 3 or other update will fix issues
If it comes up Maple Leaf - Trade the game in for NHL 12

[WolverineJay]

I really don't know whether to download the patch or not. I'm 100% offline so I may just not download it and continue with the problems. I can't lose no huddle and my custom playbook as is. What's the general consensus for offline???
If your looking for major improvements from the patch you'll be disappointed. I noticed an improvement in pass blocking for slip screens, it is slightly better. The aggressiveness of WR's and TE's blocking down the field for your ball carrier is also improved. Option game is darn near broken with the random nerfing of the DB's and LB's awareness of option plays. Speed option seems unchanged and it seems like D-line is even more atheltic than before with swats and picks off tips. Custom playbooks are messed up with all the ghost formations and forced to include formations and plays. Having said all that I would say download it in a second if it wasn't for the no huddle problems. I can choose not to call it throughout the game, but the CPU has no problem running it all the time which means I'm screwed defensively as they move from 5 wide to I-Form to run the ball and I'm stuck in Dime Normal. Dynasty wise you can edit the heights and weights of any player which would be a nice addition except that the game is worse now so it has zapped my will to play it.

My answer to you is simply ignore this patch and wait till you hear positive reviews on patch 3 before getting that one.

[morsdraconis]

Flip a darn Canadian Penny

If it comes up Elizabeth II - Don't download the patch and wait and see if patch 3 or other update will fix issues
If it comes up Maple Leaf - Trade the game in for NHL 12

Did you have to look that up to make sure it was actually what was on the sides of the Canadian Penny (cause I sure as hell did ;) )?

[ram29jackson]

If your looking for major improvements from the patch you'll be disappointed. I noticed an improvement in pass blocking for slip screens, it is slightly better. The aggressiveness of WR's and TE's blocking down the field for your ball carrier is also improved. Option game is darn near broken with the random nerfing of the DB's and LB's awareness of option plays. Speed option seems unchanged and it seems like D-line is even more atheltic than before with swats and picks off tips. Custom playbooks are messed up with all the ghost formations and forced to include formations and plays. Having said all that I would say download it in a second if it wasn't for the no huddle problems. I can choose not to call it throughout the game, but the CPU has no problem running it all the time which means I'm screwed defensively as they move from 5 wide to I-Form to run the ball and I'm stuck in Dime Normal. Dynasty wise you can edit the heights and weights of any player which would be a nice addition except that the game is worse now so it has zapped my will to play it.

My answer to you is simply ignore this patch and wait till you hear positive reviews on patch 3 before getting that one.


WR blocking is not improved, they just run rambling forward, DBs have been made stupid when in man D on runs and when in zone dont react for too long a time

[souljahbill]

quick question, who is actually still playing NCAA? Just curious.

I would be if:

1) I had time to play video games more often

and

2) I hadn't decided that I want to change 3 of my Mass Effect 2 saves thus making me playthrough Mass Effect 2 3 more times (which I TOTALLY don't mind).


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[Pig Bomb]

WR blocking is improved...it's more just the interaction between the WR and the CB, no longer does the CB ignore his man cover job and instantly bolt into the backfield on run plays... i like it

[jaymo76]

Flip a darn Canadian Penny

If it comes up Elizabeth II - Don't download the patch and wait and see if patch 3 or other update will fix issues
If it comes up Maple Leaf - Trade the game in for NHL 12

lol... don't remind me of the PENNY... I am 100% anti-monarchy and the QUEEN on my money drives me nuts!!!

[bdoughty]

Did you have to look that up to make sure it was actually what was on the sides of the Canadian Penny (cause I sure as hell did ;) )?

I had to wiki, I can not lie.

[jaymo76]

I have read on OS that the tuner pack has fixed the no huddle. Can anyone confirm this or is this just your typical OS talk??? I don't want to download the patcdh if it means losing the no huddle.

[Pig Bomb]

unless they came out with a NEW tuner pack today...then no it didnt fix the no huddle

[keyser soze]

I ran no huddle this afternoon and it was still broken for me.

[psusnoop]

You can still scroll through all plays it just starts you at a certain point.

I know it's not great but it does still allow you to call any set u want if u scroll left and right in the formations.

[gschwendt]

You can still scroll through all plays it just starts you at a certain point.

I know it's not great but it does still allow you to call any set u want if u scroll left and right in the formations.Are you sure? Unless they appear much later in the listing, it may show the different formation names, but it will still only give you one formation. So it will cycle through the names Shotgun Spread, Shotgun Trips, Shotgun YTrips but all the while, the only plays it will let you pick from is Shotgun Bunch HB Str (or whatever formation is at the top of the Shotgun listing).

[baseballplyrmvp]

are some formations locked in for certain playbooks? i used hawaii's as a base, and i cant get rid of shotgun spread hb wk. despite having 15 formations and 208 plays, i cant get rid of that formation. its not one of my audibles, and there is currently only 1 play selected in it. i get the message that i have reached the minimum number of plays for my coaching strategy.

[psusnoop]

Are you sure? Unless they appear much later in the listing, it may show the different formation names, but it will still only give you one formation. So it will cycle through the names Shotgun Spread, Shotgun Trips, Shotgun YTrips but all the while, the only plays it will let you pick from is Shotgun Bunch HB Str (or whatever formation is at the top of the Shotgun listing).

I'm sorry, I meant to state that was on defense only as that is all that I've had a chance to test out so far.

My bad, not positive on offense.

[baseballplyrmvp]

i just ran into an issue where the cpu went no huddle on me, and i called a cover 2 out of a nickel formation (and hot routed one lb to play a deep zone).....instead of playing a cover 2 though, everyone blitzed (except for the lb i was controlling)

[psusnoop]

i just ran into an issue where the cpu went no huddle on me, and i called a cover 2 out of a nickel formation (and hot routed one lb to play a deep zone).....instead of playing a cover 2 though, everyone blitzed (except for the lb i was controlling)

Wow, ouch that is crazy. Anyone else see or able to recreate this?

Nickel normal?

[baseballplyrmvp]

Wow, ouch that is crazy. Anyone else see or able to recreate this?

Nickel normal?ya, nickel normal.

i think my original playcall was 2 man under, resulting in :Oklahoma: getting 2 yards.....they go no-huddle, and i then call cover 2 and hot routed my lb to a deep zone and everyone blitzed, which resulted in a 90 yard td pass. :(

[keyser soze]

EA 1 - US 0.... nice.... well we wanted the CPU to be harder to beat, I guess this is their best answer.

[JBHuskers]

I'm thinking with the super conferences really coming into reality, I might do a dynasty with Nebraska with some drastically changed conferences.

[Nothingface]

sold.

[keyser soze]

I'm thinking with the super conferences really coming into reality, I might do a dynasty with Nebraska with some drastically changed conferences.

Careful, looking back that was the ONE CHANGE we made from season 3 to season 4 that may or may not have broken our dynasty. We pretty much blew up the big 12 and loaded up the other conferences including putting my buddies team ND into the SEC. Who knows, but that might have been the feature that broke our OD since that was the only thing we changed from season 3 to season 4.

[ram29jackson]

I want to hear what they intend to do and a time frame. The game sucks now, 11 was better and the early form of 12 was better. Its time for meaningful info, not waite and see fodder

[keyser soze]

I want to hear what they intend to do and a time frame. The game sucks now, 11 was better and the early form of 12 was better. Its time for meaningful info, not waite and see fodder

Being that I could actually PLAY THE Fing game pre-second patch, I have to agree with you that it was WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better! Game is clearly a 0 out of 10 right now being that it is unplayable in the LITERAL sense which is unbelievable to me. Does anyone know if people were fired over patch #2?

[oweb26]

Lol I would never advocate anyone getting fired. I doubt if it was one person, and personally I don't think it is an offense to get fired IMO. They were more than likely rushed in order to get everything in one patch, does that excuse it no, but it would def explain alot.

You are thinking with too much emotion Keyser, you game is messed up...move on.
Did you ever retire and let the other user start the dynasty?

[keyser soze]

I am not attempting to make a big stink to get someone fired, I just think that something this huge would probably get at least 1 guy if not more fired. I mean, they BROKE the game for crying out loud!

Yes, we have tried every single fix that was suggested here and elsewhere. I even deleted the entire game from my hard drive and cleared my CACHE completely.... still broke. Heck, I even tried to start a NEW OD with my buddy but that FAILS in week 1! Since the only think I play is DYNASTY (I do not like online play with my crappy internet connection) I am 100% dead in the water.


Lol I would never advocate anyone getting fired. I doubt if it was one person, and personally I don't think it is an offense to get fired IMO. They were more than likely rushed in order to get everything in one patch, does that excuse it no, but it would def explain alot.

You are thinking with too much emotion Keyser, you game is messed up...move on.
Did you ever retire and let the other user start the dynasty?

[gschwendt]

Keyser, this is just a complete shot in the dark but honestly it literally came to me in a dream last night... try uploading an edited roster file to your EA Locker and see if it lets you. If that works, then try to create a new OD and see if that works. Again, this is totally just a shot in the dark.

[keyser soze]

Keyser, this is just a complete shot in the dark but honestly it literally came to me in a dream last night... try uploading an edited roster file to your EA Locker and see if it lets you. If that works, then try to create a new OD and see if that works. Again, this is totally just a shot in the dark.

Are you suggesting this might fix my current OD or enable me to start a new one? At this point my frustration level is high enough that I really don't feel like killing too much time with this game. Every time I have deleted the game and cleared the cache I had to go back and recreate playbooks, settings, etc.... and I am tired of it. I have quit playing really until there is a fix. I occasionally log on, go to recruiting and then simply try to back out. Game always breaks when I try to back out.

The thing that is odd to me is how I am able to recruit from the PC though...

[gschwendt]

Are you suggesting this might fix my current OD or enable me to start a new one? At this point my frustration level is high enough that I really don't feel like killing too much time with this game. Every time I have deleted the game and cleared the cache I had to go back and recreate playbooks, settings, etc.... and I am tired of it. I have quit playing really until there is a fix. I occasionally log on, go to recruiting and then simply try to back out. Game always breaks when I try to back out.

The thing that is odd to me is how I am able to recruit from the PC though...I have no idea what it will fix or not fix... it's totally just a shot in the dark. My assumption is that the storage location for roster shares is the same/similar location for OD storage. That could be completely wrong but what I'm suggesting is perhaps "reconnecting" to the storage location through the roster share, might allow you to better communicate to the OD storage. Again, it only even makes half a bit of sense from a logistics standpoint but it came to me in a dream so I might as well share.

[keyser soze]

I have no idea what it will fix or not fix... it's totally just a shot in the dark. My assumption is that the storage location for roster shares is the same/similar location for OD storage. That could be completely wrong but what I'm suggesting is perhaps "reconnecting" to the storage location through the roster share, might allow you to better communicate to the OD storage. Again, it only even makes half a bit of sense from a logistics standpoint but it came to me in a dream so I might as well share.

HAHAHA, because of your willingness to share a dream fix with me I will give this a shot at lunch and let you know! As of now I no longer even have a non default roster because of clearing everything off my xbox.

[keyser soze]

I have no idea what it will fix or not fix... it's totally just a shot in the dark. My assumption is that the storage location for roster shares is the same/similar location for OD storage. That could be completely wrong but what I'm suggesting is perhaps "reconnecting" to the storage location through the roster share, might allow you to better communicate to the OD storage. Again, it only even makes half a bit of sense from a logistics standpoint but it came to me in a dream so I might as well share.

Tried it and FAILED. As soon as it gets to the point where it says "UPLOADING TO SERVERS" or whatever, it is followed by TRANSFER FAILED. I downloaded Catch22's rosters and fired up a dynasty from scratch so its still official, I couldn't start a NEW dynasty even if I wanted to. Simply AMAZING to me really, I have to wonder if EA can't get into some sort of legal trouble with the bullets on the box being untrue if I was to ask for a refund.

[gschwendt]

Tried it and FAILED. As soon as it gets to the point where it says "UPLOADING TO SERVERS" or whatever, it is followed by TRANSFER FAILED. I downloaded Catch22's rosters and fired up a dynasty from scratch so its still official, I couldn't start a NEW dynasty even if I wanted to. Simply AMAZING to me really, I have to wonder if EA can't get into some sort of legal trouble with the bullets on the box being untrue if I was to ask for a refund.To be clear, you got that issue when trying to create an OD, not when trying to upload rosters, correct? Did you try uploading rosters? Again, it's very much a stretch, just wanted to be clear what you tried or didn't.

[keyser soze]

Yes, I was able to upload CATCH22's roster set without a problem. I then started an OD and it failed after getting through the setup part... basically fails the first time it says that it is going to LOAD something to the server.... has to be an EA server issue and how the server talks to the XBOX vs. my laptop. I have no problems recruiting and loading up changes from my laptop to the server but my xbox is dead in the water. One would think that this could narrow it down for them but I guess not.




To be clear, you got that issue when trying to create an OD, not when trying to upload rosters, correct? Did you try uploading rosters? Again, it's very much a stretch, just wanted to be clear what you tried or didn't.

[baseballplyrmvp]

not sure where to put this. i looked in the reoccuring issues category, but there wasnt a topic for game freezes. please move if necessary.

i just had the game freeze on me (360).

i was in an offline dynasty, with hawaii and using a custom playbook, and went to change my auto sub sliders. after adjusting some of em, i moved over one tab (pressed rb) to look at my offensive audibles, and that was when the game froze.

i had moved hawaii to the pac14 (along with by byu), all american diff, 7 min quarters, steelerfan's sliders, coaching contracts on.....and i think thats all the info required? i was in week 13 of my first season.

[cdj]

Was it a hard freeze (music stops) or soft freeze (music keeps going)? How long did you let it sit there?


(PS3) Since patch #2, the game does a soft freeze for a few seconds after loading files, most notably when exiting ODs and the game reloads a roster file. After 3-5 seconds it kicks out of it, but it's pretty annoying.

[baseballplyrmvp]

Was it a hard freeze (music stops) or soft freeze (music keeps going)? How long did you let it sit there?


(PS3) Since patch #2, the game does a soft freeze for a few seconds after loading files, most notably when exiting ODs and the game reloads a roster file. After 3-5 seconds it kicks out of it, but it's pretty annoying.

hard freeze. the xbox guide button (in the middle of the controller) wouldnt even work to bring up the options to return to the xbl dashboard. i let it sit there for probably 3-4 minutes, before i manually hit the power button on the console to shut it off.

[keyser soze]

cdj... any news on server side fix coming for the TRANSFER FAILED any time soon? We are approaching half way through college football season... basketball games come out in 2 weeks!

[cdj]

cdj... any news on server side fix coming for the TRANSFER FAILED any time soon? We are approaching half way through college football season... basketball games come out in 2 weeks!

Nothing yet. Hopefully we hear more this week.

I can understand the apprehension, but at this point I think the best approach is still for people running into the issue to give as much info as possible in this thread (http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/forums/showthread.php?3696-NCAA-Football-12-Update-from-EA-SPORTS). From what I've gathered reading threads and posts are that there are so many different variables that if the team has a starting off point, it should make finding and fixing all of these annoying Transfer Failed messages easier.

[keyser soze]

Nothing yet. Hopefully we hear more this week.

I can understand the apprehension, but at this point I think the best approach is still for people running into the issue to give as much info as possible in this thread (http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/forums/showthread.php?3696-NCAA-Football-12-Update-from-EA-SPORTS). From what I've gathered reading threads and posts are that there are so many different variables that if the team has a starting off point, it should make finding and fixing all of these annoying Transfer Failed messages easier.

I went to OS and they have LOTS of starting off points with everyone posting so unless the entire program/code is broken they should be able to figure this out. I hope you are right and they FIX it this week. If I find out this is something that can't be fixed until patch #4 (because they can't fix server side and #3 is already going to microsoft) well then I can quit checking in because I am not waiting 4 to 6 more weeks because the season will be over then and we will be knee deep in basketball and they will have missed the entire football season.

Fingers crossed! LOL

[cdj]

I'm optimistic that it can be fixed server side once they identify the underlying cause(s). Nothing to really base that off of besides the bowl week Transfer Failed issue being rectified that way. Hopefully that is a good sign.

[GatorfanStovy]

I was gonna try and start a new off line Dynasty.However,when i went to load my game day rosters the names would not load up.What am I missing here?I am stuck with onnae off line dynasty????

[cdj]

I was gonna try and start a new off line Dynasty.However,when i went to load my game day rosters the names would not load up.What am I missing here?I am stuck with onnae off line dynasty????

Did you make sure to load them from the Main Menu before creating the Dynasty?
Does it have the same options at the start as Online Dynasty? If so, make sure 'Generate Names' is set to OFF. I think it defaults to ON.

[GatorfanStovy]

Did you make sure to load them from the Main Menu before creating the Dynasty?
Does it have the same options at the start as Online Dynasty? If so, make sure 'Generate Names' is set to OFF. I think it defaults to ON.

I will check that stuff again and make sure everything is checked right.

[SmoothPancakes]

NBA 2K11 just reminded me why I hate the shitty announcing in NCAA and Madden. Playing a game as the Denver Nuggets in Association at the New Orleans Hornets, and the announcers, while J.R. Smith was at the line shooting a pair of free throws, were talking about how last season (the real life 2010 season) was a disappointment of sorts for him, and how he didn't step up in the playoffs.

Then they started talking about how a bit of it could have been because George Karl wasn't there (due to his battle with cancer that caused him to miss the entire second half of the 2010 season), and that may have had a mental effect on not only JR Smith but the rest of the team as well, as they finished the 2010 season very poorly.

Then they started talking about some of the team stats from last season, mentioned some stats from the postseason, and transitioned it right into the stats so far for the current season in-game. You will never hear even an iota of the amount of commentary that you hear in a single quarter of NBA 2K11, and nowhere in hell anywhere near the level of depth.

The commentary in NCAA and Madden, I already knew were steaming piles of shit, but after playing NBA 2K11 tonight for the first time in a couple months, and hearing the broadcast team go and take one player currently shooting free throws, and turn it into an entire story about that player's performances last season, about the team in whole, about the team's postseason failures, and then even mention the head coach being gone for the second part of the season due to cancer during that story and tie it into the dialogue of the team's collapse at the end of the year and in the postseason, it is disgraceful this commentary crap that is in NCAA and Madden. EA seriously needs to just sit down, completely scrap this shit system they use for commentary and start over. :smh:

[morsdraconis]

While I completely agree that it's shit, part of the problem is that EA changes announcers WAY WAY WAY too much, and, because of that, they have very limited time and record new things and thus have limited things to pull from.

[SmoothPancakes]

Agreed. They need to just find a team that works and start from there. Stop changing shit up with the announcing team all the time as a corner cutting way of "keeping the commentary fresh". It's never going to be fresh, no matter how many new voices you throw in there over the years. They need to get one team, keep that team, and work from there on building up the commentary from the ground up.

And no more of this cookie cutter bullshit like they use in NCAA and Madden that just sounds horrible. Hell, copy the NBA 2K commentary system if they have to and can't make a good system on their own. At least then the games will listenable. I either kill the commentary volume altogether or I listen to music whenever I play NCAA and Madden. The commentary is just painful to listen to.

[morsdraconis]

Agreed. They need to just find a team that works and start from there. Stop changing shit up with the announcing team all the time as a corner cutting way of "keeping the commentary fresh". It's never going to be fresh, no matter how many new voices you throw in there over the years. They need to get one team, keep that team, and work from there on building up the commentary from the ground up.

And no more of this cookie cutter bullshit like they use in NCAA and Madden that just sounds horrible. Hell, copy the NBA 2K commentary system if they have to and can't make a good system on their own. At least then the games will listenable. I either kill the commentary volume altogether or I listen to music whenever I play NCAA and Madden. The commentary is just painful to listen to.

I do the same and have for years. Unfortunately, as good as the 2k commentary is, it's still highly repetitive as well, so I usually just end up skipping the cutscene that they do at the beginning of the 4th quarter for the Spark Of The Game since it's always the same commentary over and over again, no matter what happens in the game.

2k is definitely the shining example of how to do good commentary, but it's still lacking in quite a few areas. Unfortunately, them adding Steve Kerr this year isn't gonna make it any better, in my opinion, but, we shall see.

[xMrHitStickx904]

almost 3 months since NCAA dropped, how many of you all are having fun with it still?

[psusnoop]

almost 3 months since NCAA dropped, how many of you all are having fun with it still?

Not sure what you getting at here, but I AM still playing and enjoy the heck out of the game as are many others.

Am I wrong? Are you wrong?

[JBHuskers]

almost 3 months since NCAA dropped, how many of you all are having fun with it still?

I definitely am. Currently in 3 active OD's .... one other fell victim to the Transfer Failed bug.

[keyser soze]

I was until patch #2 broke my dynasty.... I occasionally play a PLAY NOW but that is a double edge sword in that while I enjoy college football I get infuriated that I can't play in a dynasty.

[keyser soze]

What are your thoughts of my buddy and my idea for a death penalty dynasty. Check this out.
I take 5-star FSU and he takes 3-star Cinci.

Season 1 we simulate the season and I blow up my roster before it begins, turn recruiting OFF for my team and ensure an 0-12 record with zero recruits signed. This will ensure that I drop to a 4-star school.
I allow his players to stay on the team, perhaps manipulate his schedule to help him out for the simulation with the goal of getting him to a 4-star school but zero commits signed.

Now at the beginning of year 2 we will cut every scholarship player he has by moving them all to punter and cutting them. My team will still be all manipulated horrible players and thus we will both go 0-12 guaranteeing a drop to a 3-star school. However, during year 2 we will simulate the games but we will actually recruit. Not sure what a 4-star school can bring in with an 0-12 record but we will find out. That means at the end of season 2 we will have 1 recruiting class in and both be 3-star to start season 3.

At the beginning of season 3 we will REDSHIRT every recruit we got from season 2 and continue to recruit in season 3 with our all walk-on teams thus insuring yet ANOTHER 0-12 season and drop to a 2-star school!

So, we will start season 4 of the OD with both our schools being 2-star and having 2 recruiting classes to play with. That should mean close to 50 kids. We will then attempt to rebuild the programs and have a race to the national championship. Our schedules will always consist of the 8 locked conference games plus 4 non conference games against the conference champions from the prior season. We will list out the conference champions and take turns picking who we have to play every season. This just makes it easier to pick our non conference games and continues to make us play the best.

Personally I think this might be pretty fun as it will be HARD to win a NC with a 2-star team with limited scholarship athletes to begin with playing in BCS conferences.

[oweb26]

Good luck with that, seems like alot of work to me. Could be fun though I guess.

[gschwendt]

An OD I was in a couple of years ago did that... it definitely becomes a challenge. One thing to keep in mind is that obviously if you use the Coaching Carousel, your original coaches will almost definitely be fired so you may have to create new coaches in the middle of the OD or something similar. I've not done that this year but I assume it's possible.

[keyser soze]

An OD I was in a couple of years ago did that... it definitely becomes a challenge. One thing to keep in mind is that obviously if you use the Coaching Carousel, your original coaches will almost definitely be fired so you may have to create new coaches in the middle of the OD or something similar. I've not done that this year but I assume it's possible.

we always turn coaching contracts to OFF as neither of us see any benefit to that. It will simply be a race to the NC which IMO can happen in our 3rd season of playing which I think will be our 7th season in the OD. Got to remember that my team will start out 0-36! LOL... not sure how bad that might hurt some of my schools grades but that is all good. As soon as I get a defense recruited, a QB with adequate speed and 2 solid HBs it becomes hard to lose.

[keyser soze]

Good luck with that, seems like alot of work to me. Could be fun though I guess.

I hear you but I need to do something different after our current OD has TRANSFER FAILED us at the end of our 4th season. So we have done the ND & Michigan dynasty so now we take 2 other teams and build them back up after blowing them up. Should bring a new aspect to playing particularly on the DEFENSIVE side of the ball. The game this year even on heisman is too easy to man blitz the CPU to death if you have a decent secondary. With this crazy concept, I envision us having to play a TON of base zone defenses and a hope/pray attitude.

I fired up a game taking Navy to get a feel on PLAY NOW (which I believe is easier then dynasty) and while offense is still pretty easy vs. the CPU defense against the big programs becomes next to impossible. When you get a stop against a top team it really feels like a huge accomplishment. Wonder if I will even be bowling the first year I play. Probably will depend on who I can recruit to play QB. I need 2 semi-mobile guys or it will be very tough to start!

[baseballplyrmvp]

we always turn coaching contracts to OFF as neither of us see any benefit to that. It will simply be a race to the NC which IMO can happen in our 3rd season of playing which I think will be our 7th season in the OD. Got to remember that my team will start out 0-36! LOL... not sure how bad that might hurt some of my schools grades but that is all good. As soon as I get a defense recruited, a QB with adequate speed and 2 solid HBs it becomes hard to lose.

you guys are still gonna be pulling in some pretty good talent, even being 4* schools. if i were doing this as an od, i'd tell everyone to recreate their school as a 1* teams with the worst possible school pitches. you could sim a couple of years to get the scholarship players out of your roster, with no recuiting too.

[keyser soze]

you guys are still gonna be pulling in some pretty good talent, even being 4* schools. if i were doing this as an od, i'd tell everyone to recreate their school as a 1* teams with the worst possible school pitches. you could sim a couple of years to get the scholarship players out of your roster, with no recuiting too.

if you read all the way through we will be a 2-star school when we start playing. as for our scholarship players we will simply CUT them. However, you HAVE to have some scholarship players or the game is stupid. If you don't believe me go try it. Try to play in a big conference with all walk-ons. The first year would be totally futile on heisman level.

[baseballplyrmvp]

if you read all the way through we will be a 2-star school when we start playing. as for our scholarship players we will simply CUT them. However, you HAVE to have some scholarship players or the game is stupid. If you don't believe me go try it. Try to play in a big conference with all walk-ons. The first year would be totally futile on heisman level.

ya i tried the death penalty idea on ncaa10. my first game in that od, i lost to fcs west 66-7. i felt sooooooo bad afterwards. lol

[keyser soze]

ya i tried the death penalty idea on ncaa10. my first game in that od, i lost to fcs west 66-7. i felt sooooooo bad afterwards. lol

well IMO there is zero point in playing through that for a season. I want to have a chance to win a few games if I am going to take the time to play them all out. There is going to be a LOT of pressure in our 2 seasons of recruiting to pull in some talent because whoever we get will be playing! I just hope I can sign 2 mobile QBs in 2 years of recruiting. IMO the most important positions will be QB and then the secondary. If my secondary can't ever stop the pass then I will have no shot. If I can get me a pair of corners and a slew of safeties I will have a shot. Our first year of actual recruiting will be key to get the KEY positions IMO.

However, until/if EA can figure out what is wrong with my connection to their server I can't even create a brand new OD.... pretty sad state of affairs when you can't simply start from scratch and play online anything!

[ram29jackson]

LOL didnt know it was possible .....week 2, season 2 of a online dynasty, I ask a guy 1 question and then offer scholorship and got a + 5000, hard commit, boom!

[keyser soze]

The biggest issue I have with this year's title is that it is no longer "safe" to even wait until after the release and reviews in determining whether or not to get this game. My game worked fine for about 1.5 months before the second patch that killed my ability to play in OD's.... So now what? Hard to believe that we live in a gaming age where games can be broken months after release....

[Nothingface]

almost 3 months since NCAA dropped, how many of you all are having fun with it still?

Whoever bought it from me....i kinda hope they are enjoying the game.

[jaymo76]

Played my first game last night since August (four days before Madden was released). I wanted to play but the patch issues kept me away. So finally last night I installed the latest patch. I played as Arizona St versus (@) Michigan. It was a great game. We were tied 45-45 with 22 seconds left in the fourth Q. I was driving the ball, had two time out and was really enjoying the game. Passing seemed improved and running seemed harder. The time away from the game really made me appreciate it more.... THEN... I threw a pic. I ran a slant pattern to my slot WR. The coverage was loose, I threw a bullet pass... and the safety WARPED his entire body through my receiver emerged on the other side... I super simmed the end of the game and haven't turned it on again since.

This game has so much potential but issues such as the one mentioned above make it difficult to stay loyal to my all-time favourite video game series.

[Jayrah]

I do the same and have for years. Unfortunately, as good as the 2k commentary is, it's still highly repetitive as well, so I usually just end up skipping the cutscene that they do at the beginning of the 4th quarter for the Spark Of The Game since it's always the same commentary over and over again, no matter what happens in the game.

2k is definitely the shining example of how to do good commentary, but it's still lacking in quite a few areas. Unfortunately, them adding Steve Kerr this year isn't gonna make it any better, in my opinion, but, we shall see.

Kerr has made the commentary 1000x better actually. Its amazing the depth that is added by his analysis. They did a terrific job of working him into the old lines and adding a ton of all new stuff for him. The 2k team seems like they let the announcers go off on a subject by themselves without much pre-writing and the announcers have done an incredible job of emotional connection as it pertains to basketball. I don't hear anything you wouldn't naturally hear in a ballgame. The first few games in a given season are a bit repetitive forcm certain players but then the stat commentary throughout the season takes over. There's EVEN A BUNCH OF PLAYOFF SPECIFIC commentary that engages you in the moment of a playoff game. And the fact that its free flowing return to the moment after keeping you up to date is simply amazingly well done.

In all of these places, NCAA is lacking tremendously. I like the team they have now. If they added a Jesse Palmer and started stitching commentary together it would be a tremendous and encouraging. Or really upgrade Erin's role to 6-7 extra lines/game involving sideline analysis and stuff from coaches that she got before the game and emotional swings etc.

I see the problem in that for 120+ teams you won't be able to include a bunch of team specific commentary like you'd like to. So the best thing to do would be start with what specifics you normally do, and then do POSITION and RECORD (including seasonal records, approaching/achieved school records and ncaa records) specific commentary and find a way to stitch TEAM names in with it dynamically. I think the difference will only come when ea stops thinking of commentary as a season to season upgrade and start thinking "new feature" with it. Also if they let the boys just talk, and not so obviously try and find spots for certain sayings, that'll make a huge difference.

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[jaymo76]

Even though the commentary is lacking, it would feel so much better if the stat packs were dynamic. Just show stats from throughout the season during a game (Madden does at the beginning re: QB's). Also, show the starters. These types of things bring in so much immersion. Even if the commentary doesn't adress the stats, it still would be a massive improvement.

[jaymo76]

Just tried to play a game and it froze on me two times. The first freeze occured on the audible screen (I guess this hasn't been fixed in any patch since it's been like this since day one). However, the second freeze occured when I went into formation subs with my custom book. The system froze again. Well, I deleted my custom playbooks and am in the process of making new ones so I guess I won't be playing until late tonight. Anyone else have problems with formation subs in an existing playbook???

[Rudy]

Kerr has made the commentary 1000x better actually. Its amazing the depth that is added by his analysis. They did a terrific job of working him into the old lines and adding a ton of all new stuff for him. The 2k team seems like they let the announcers go off on a subject by themselves without much pre-writing and the announcers have done an incredible job of emotional connection as it pertains to basketball.

This is exactly how 2K does it. Gary Thorne was interviewed about his work doing play by play in MLB 2K10 and he said they work without a script. They just envision scenarios and comment like they are at a ballgame and it works great. EA's announcing teams seem 100% scripted and they certainly don't go the extra mile with specific commentary relating to players or teams.

[illwill10]

I love how 2K has a ton of stat overlays. It shows game comparisons, league stats, overlays from last year. If NCAA is able to add a ton of stat overlays, add more college atmosphere/camera angles and presentation, improved pre/post/half-time shows, Updates from other teams/Top 25/Heisman and fix up commentary, This game will rival other sports games
This year they need to focus on Presentation(not pre-game intros)/Graphics, Gameplay, and Dynasty. I would like to see them skip a year in pre-game intros and focus on presentation. I am not sure EA football games is fully ready for real-time physics since I am not sure if they can fully create momentum for each runs. I would like to see BIG changes in gameplay. Changes in almost every aspect in gameplay.
I didnt play NCAA in a month and a half. I was waiting for Patch and never been back to it. Ive been craving to play it, but since my PS3 has been messed up for awhile, I havent had a chance.

[baseballplyrmvp]

random question here, but in dynasty mode, why are there no minus grades for school pitches? everything is either a base letter grade or a plus grade (A+, A, B+, B, C+, C, etc)

[illwill10]

I just played this game after not playing it for a month and a half. I dont whether it is Im playing on Normal, but CPU defenses seem extremely fast and they always go for Big Hits. I faced a Duke defense full of speed. Only 1 DB had under 90 speed. LBs had 80+ speed.
DPP, Hot/cold Streaks, and Traits have a big effect in MAdden's gameplay.

[illwill10]

I really like using Player-Lock during gameplay. Especially with OLinemen, I am able to spring open big runs. And I like using Wrs to make sure I get open quickly.

[keyser soze]

I love LAMP....

[Pig Bomb]

any word on this update????? it's been "coming soon" for months now..are they going to launch it to celebrate the end of college football season??

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/8884/comingsoondy.png

[keyser soze]

Meh... I don't know and really don't care right now being that it is IMPOSSIBLE to play in ANY OD using my gamertag! LOL

Pwnd! EA 1 - Keyser Soze 15 0

[ram29jackson]

ive played like a game a week in a teambuilder multi user dynasty, but hae been binging on madden team play so I forgot most how to really play ncaa...but last night, Steelerfan and I played a couple games and they were pretty good !

it was fun but comparing the 2 games,Madden does what I expect it too. I feel better about running the ball in madden..I like how I can customize just about anything in ncaa from a team and uniform to a dynasty etc. and never want to lose that...but Madden plays better on field as far as I can tell...but again, the games with Steelerfan make me not want to lose touch with the NCAA game

[illwill10]

ive played like a game a week in a teambuilder multi user dynasty, but hae been binging on madden team play so I forgot most how to really play ncaa...but last night, Steelerfan and I played a couple games and they were pretty good !

it was fun but comparing the 2 games,Madden does what I expect it too. I feel better about running the ball in madden..I like how I can customize just about anything in ncaa from a team and uniform to a dynasty etc. and never want to lose that...but Madden plays better on field as far as I can tell...but again, the games with Steelerfan make me not want to lose touch with the NCAA game
DPP and traits really helps Madden. If I face a RB on a hot streak, it is almost a certain 100+ game. Hot and Cold streaks play a big factor.
One thing that could help NCAA is the improvement of the run game. I dont think anyone has a big problem of stopping the run game. Only real chance of CPU having a good game is if the OL beats their one on one battles. When you hear that it seems right, but it is not. It seems very random and not smooth. Besides Speed and Break Tackle, Rbs dont really have a big impact on games. Since the RBs and WRs have tunnel vision, you dont see the "Wow" plays from the run game and With Juke being almost ineffective for both User and CPU. I had success with the Spin though. Another problem is that, CPU ball-carriers only spin or juke when there is a defender around.
I had some success in the Return game last 2 years. I returned 4 total Kr/Pr TDs. One of my returns was on a Punt Return where my best player muffed a punt and a guy recovered it and broke a few tackles. The funny thing about it was the guy who returned it was slow and it took forever. I think the key on KRs is to get a running start, hopefully get a lane to run through, and taking the right angle. Taking the wrong angle(even if it is only a few feet), can be the difference between a TD and a big return

[morsdraconis]

That's funny, because I just finished playing this piece of shit again and, well, it wasn't fun at all. The defense (CPU Baylor) cheesed the fuck out of me (WVU) all game. 5 INTs (the most INTs I've thrown in probably 100 games and I'm one to throw the ball 45+ times a game, every game) later and I was disgusted with it, but I was gonna take the loss like a man. What happens? The fuckin' game freezes as I finish out the game and it goes to exit the game back to the dynasty menus. :smh: 6 months after release, and I still get freezes on this piece of shit.

[illwill10]

That's funny, because I just finished playing this piece of shit again and, well, it wasn't fun at all. The defense (CPU Baylor) cheesed the fuck out of me (WVU) all game. 5 INTs (the most INTs I've thrown in probably 100 games and I'm one to throw the ball 45+ times a game, every game) later and I was disgusted with it, but I was gonna take the loss like a man. What happens? The fuckin' game freezes as I finish out the game and it goes to exit the game back to the dynasty menus. :smh: 6 months after release, and I still get freezes on this piece of shit.
Most of the INTs the CPU get are the INTs that get you PISSED. They usually happen on passes that should we able to make easily. They usually slide to get INTs. I dont really throw that many INTs that should be picked. They really need to fix trajectory on passes.

[morsdraconis]

Nah, the trajectory is fine. It's the intelligence of the passing system, or the lack there of intelligence. On a C route, you should be able to throw the ball to the end of the C route BEFORE they make the cut for the top of the C, but you can't. So, INT from that, which was total bullshit.

The amount of bullshit that happens in this game is just astounding. I have to cheese the fuck out of the CPU defense to be able to run an offense, which is never fun. I mean, I can throw the ball for 500 yards, no problem, but I have to cheese the CPU to get it to happen and it's dumb.

[illwill10]

Nah, the trajectory is fine. It's the intelligence of the passing system, or the lack there of intelligence. On a C route, you should be able to throw the ball to the end of the C route BEFORE they make the cut for the top of the C, but you can't. So, INT from that, which was total bullshit.

The amount of bullshit that happens in this game is just astounding. I have to cheese the fuck out of the CPU defense to be able to run an offense, which is never fun. I mean, I can throw the ball for 500 yards, no problem, but I have to cheese the CPU to get it to happen and it's dumb.
I understand what you are saying. I dont really think it is trajectory more than it is Super LB/DB. Ive seen LBs even DL make INTs only elite DBs should make. LBs and DBs abilty to stop on on a dime and get air without having bend knees is some ole bullshit.
I can too get 400+ yards easily but nor really have accomplished because I know the CPU Ai flaws.
Call Pistol Wing Trips TE Cross play one game with a fast TE and I guareenteed that you might complete it(depending DBs covering and patience on your behalf). CPU always call a zone. So as Pistol Spread Flex Deep Attack and with a fast WR, you will have a great chance of completeing it.

[ram29jackson]

I did not know Virginia had 2 extra sock styles ?.. but whats stupid is,the default sock for Virginia is the ankle sock so many people wont even know..this type of stuff needs to be in team builder too...


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[jaymo76]

DPP and traits really helps Madden. If I face a RB on a hot streak, it is almost a certain 100+ game. Hot and Cold streaks play a big factor.
One thing that could help NCAA is the improvement of the run game. I dont think anyone has a big problem of stopping the run game. Only real chance of CPU having a good game is if the OL beats their one on one battles. When you hear that it seems right, but it is not. It seems very random and not smooth. Besides Speed and Break Tackle, Rbs dont really have a big impact on games. Since the RBs and WRs have tunnel vision, you dont see the "Wow" plays from the run game and With Juke being almost ineffective for both User and CPU. I had success with the Spin though. Another problem is that, CPU ball-carriers only spin or juke when there is a defender around.
I had some success in the Return game last 2 years. I returned 4 total Kr/Pr TDs. One of my returns was on a Punt Return where my best player muffed a punt and a guy recovered it and broke a few tackles. The funny thing about it was the guy who returned it was slow and it took forever. I think the key on KRs is to get a running start, hopefully get a lane to run through, and taking the right angle. Taking the wrong angle(even if it is only a few feet), can be the difference between a TD and a big return

Totally agree illwill re: DPP. Overall I find Madden plays a superior game of football has better and more frequent injuries, better special teams play etc. However, the playability of madden still suffers as compared to NCAA. IMO taking out the EXTRA POINT really hurt Madden 12 bigtime! Hey it wasn't great but it was something. Now we are back to Madden being absolutely dull with almost zero immersion.

[illwill10]

Totally agree illwill re: DPP. Overall I find Madden plays a superior game of football has better and more frequent injuries, better special teams play etc. However, the playability of madden still suffers as compared to NCAA. IMO taking out the EXTRA POINT really hurt Madden 12 bigtime! Hey it wasn't great but it was something. Now we are back to Madden being absolutely dull with almost zero immersion.
Not having Extra Point and having terrible commentary, really kept me from playing MAdden. Plus I like seeing all of the college offenses. I really like GameTrack and commentary is better in NCAA. I fear RBs in Madden, I dont fear RBs in NCAA.
If NCAA had DPP and Traits, it would play so much better. Especially when it comes to QB scrambling.

[jaymo76]

Seem to have found another glitch in NCAA 12. After six straight winning seasons and now two back-to-back NC's my TV RATING is still noly a C+. I know this was broken when you started as a coordinator but it has NOT fixed itself by moving up to HC. Other than Oklahoma I have been the best team in NCAA for the past four seasons yet my TV ranking remains a C+.

[morsdraconis]

Seem to have found another glitch in NCAA 12. After six straight winning seasons and now two back-to-back NC's my TV RATING is still noly a C+. I know this was broken when you started as a coordinator but it has NOT fixed itself by moving up to HC. Other than Oklahoma I have been the best team in NCAA for the past four seasons yet my TV ranking remains a C+.

It doesn't change, but there was a glitch where it would change in ODs from what it should be for teams to something lower.

[illwill10]

Seem to have found another glitch in NCAA 12. After six straight winning seasons and now two back-to-back NC's my TV RATING is still noly a C+. I know this was broken when you started as a coordinator but it has NOT fixed itself by moving up to HC. Other than Oklahoma I have been the best team in NCAA for the past four seasons yet my TV ranking remains a C+.
I am in a similar boat with MSU. I won 2 straight NCs on both undefeated seasons and I am still B+ TV Rating. I moved up to A for Champion Contender, after being just B+.
Thing is USF already had A+ Champion Contender and TV without winning a anything significant.

[ram29jackson]

this may be the wrong place for this? but, just wanted to say..I would like this in both games next year LOL

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[SmoothPancakes]

If you're talking about the facemask, in my opinion, looks absolutely stupid as hell.

[ram29jackson]

If you're talking about the facemask, in my opinion, looks absolutely stupid as hell.

LOL yeah but i'm sure it serves its purpose for him and I bet alot of past linemen think " hey, I could have used that, why didnt I think of that ?" it looks menacing, Gothic and knightly

[illwill10]

I am in my 5 game of my season as a DC for Ball State, I am about to get my 1st win and the game freezes.
Ive seen way too many freezes. It is pissing me off. It is not mainly that I have to do it again/sim it(in this case sim it),I was having a great statistical as a defense. I will probably get the win if I sim it, but I was having a great game and wont get the stats and probably will give up more points than I wouldve allowed if I finished the game.
This should have been fixed pre-release. I shouldnt see freezes almost 7 months after release.

[cdj]

this may be the wrong place for this? but, just wanted to say..I would like this in both games next year LOL

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Wow....that facemask is something else. Hannibal Lecter-model?


I am in my 5 game of my season as a DC for Ball State, I am about to get my 1st win and the game freezes.
Ive seen way too many freezes. It is pissing me off. It is not mainly that I have to do it again/sim it(in this case sim it),I was having a great statistical as a defense. I will probably get the win if I sim it, but I was having a great game and wont get the stats and probably will give up more points than I wouldve allowed if I finished the game.
This should have been fixed pre-release. I shouldnt see freezes almost 7 months after release.

What system? Do you see these freezes in-game, menus, both? I had a freeze the other day, but it was upon exiting OD on the menu screen as it was transitioning. I don't think I've had any freezes during gameplay on either system. (Maybe a handful early on, but none in a very long time.)

[illwill10]

What system? Do you see these freezes in-game, menus, both? I had a freeze the other day, but it was upon exiting OD on the menu screen as it was transitioning. I don't think I've had any freezes during gameplay on either system. (Maybe a handful early on, but none in a very long time.)
360 in Offline Dynasty. Both Menu and In-game freezes. Mostly menu freezes. Mostly when it is transitioning. I havent seen many freezes in a while, but in the last few days I seen alot

[cdj]

360 in Offline Dynasty. Both Menu and In-game freezes. Mostly menu freezes. Mostly when it is transitioning. I havent seen many freezes in a while, but in the last few days I seen alot

That is really weird. It jives with what thecountries said in their thread yesterday and today, except they are on PS3. Of your recent freezes, are they mixed or mainly in-game?

[illwill10]

That is really weird. It jives with what thecountries said in their thread yesterday and today, except they are on PS3. Of your recent freezes, are they mixed or mainly in-game?
I might say mainly menu. Only 1 in-game freeze. I think it can be preventable. I think I just have to let it transition and not rush through it. I think most of the freezrs comes when I try to rush through it

[baseballplyrmvp]

I might say mainly menu. Only 1 in-game freeze. I think it can be preventable. I think I just have to let it transition and not rush through it. I think most of the freezrs comes when I try to rush through iti've had a couple of menu freezes over the last couple of months and it's mostly happened because of that.

[JBHuskers]

this may be the wrong place for this? but, just wanted to say..I would like this in both games next year LOL

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Noticed that watching the game yesterday....insane.

[illwill10]

One thing I hope is addressed in NCAA 13 is Run blocking and RB play. I really dont like run blocking. I feel they try to let the OL overdominate the defense at times to make up for the CPU RB tunnel vision and their lack of using special moves. On most of the big runs by the CPU comes from every single OLinemen quickly beating the DL and getting to the 2nd and 3rd level. Besides broken tackles, you dont really see RBs really hurting Defenses. I dont mind seeing those plays happening, but not all the time. Most of the big runs IRL comes from either when a OL springs a block and the RB finishes it up or when the RB does all the work.

[Rudy]

One thing I hope is addressed in NCAA 13 is Run blocking and RB play. I really dont like run blocking. I feel they try to let the OL overdominate the defense at times to make up for the CPU RB tunnel vision and their lack of using special moves. On most of the big runs by the CPU comes from every single OLinemen quickly beating the DL and getting to the 2nd and 3rd level. Besides broken tackles, you dont really see RBs really hurting Defenses. I dont mind seeing those plays happening, but not all the time. Most of the big runs IRL comes from either when a OL springs a block and the RB finishes it up or when the RB does all the work.

I really hope this is improved for next year as it was a real downer for me. I want to see scat backs spin and juke while big backs lower their shoulder more. Just not enough personality in the running game imo. Same goes for the passing game as the cpu QBs never looked towards their best wide receivers. A Justin Blackmon type of player is under utilized completely. If RBs don't run to their strengths and QBs don't target their best players every team ends up feeling very similar. I want to see dominant players dominate and also do it in a way that reflects their abilities.

[illwill10]

I really hope this is improved for next year as it was a real downer for me. I want to see scat backs spin and juke while big backs lower their shoulder more. Just not enough personality in the running game imo. Same goes for the passing game as the cpu QBs never looked towards their best wide receivers. A Justin Blackmon type of player is under utilized completely. If RBs don't run to their strengths and QBs don't target their best players every team ends up feeling very similar. I want to see dominant players dominate and also do it in a way that reflects their abilities.
I agree.
The only thing I look for when I face a opposing RB is Speed and Break Tackle. I should fear a RB that has 88 speed, but has 90+ Truck or even Elusiveness and Juke.
I dont some WRs being targeted more. I mainly see Slot WRs being targeted more. My slot CBs were getting thrown to so much that I had to switch up the lineup. I think the opposing Cbs are a factor. Besides Slants and Verticals, Top WRs dont get the ball much

[illwill10]

I played in a game earlier, where I saw a GTFOH moment late in 4th quarter. I sent pressure on the QB from the SS spot in the 1-5-5. The CPU QB was able to spin off sack and throw a perfect spiral pass to his WR on his backfoot without even looking at the WR to see if he was open. I almost lost because of that/

[illwill10]

One thing that I like is lingering injuries. I had a starting CB get injured in game and was slated to return in 2 weeks. He was still questionable after the 2nd week was up. He didnt become probable until the 4th or 5th week. He was injured for 5+ straight weeks.

[illwill10]

I think the thing that keeps me playing is recruiting. I really like recruiting. I like finding 2 and 3 star players that arent highly sout after but fit my scheme. I like not being in a good recruit top 10 and start recruiting him heavily and eventually get him. If I am able to get a Sparq 100 recruit and a few other good recruits, it makes me want to sim to the next season right after I get them. Sure it needs improvement, but I usually love the Offseason/scouting in Season modes in sports game. I like building my team up.

[keyser soze]

I think the thing that keeps me playing is recruiting. I really like recruiting. I like finding 2 and 3 star players that arent highly sout after but fit my scheme. I like not being in a good recruit top 10 and start recruiting him heavily and eventually get him. If I am able to get a Sparq 100 recruit and a few other good recruits, it makes me want to sim to the next season right after I get them. Sure it needs improvement, but I usually love the Offseason/scouting in Season modes in sports game. I like building my team up.

This is the same for me only what keeps me going is playing with my favorite team MICHIGAN and my good friend playing with his favorite team NOTRE DAME and going after recruits against each other. There are about 4 guys every year that are just awesome on paper and its fun to try to get them and then see how good they end up and BRAG to the other guy about them. He got THE MAN at QB last year and it will be cool to see how good this kid is. He is super rare in that he is both the fastest and best arm we have ever seen on a QB recruit. Dude is really fast and had like B+/A throwing!!! I would have KILLED for him but lost out to ND! I did get my running back so that is what makes it fun!

I beat him out this year for not 1 but 2 FS's!!! I will purposely recruit against him at a position to try to drive his talent at that position DOWN if I can. We have house rules for moving guys around so its pretty fun.

[martywebb]

One thing I hope is addressed in NCAA 13 is Run blocking and RB play. I really dont like run blocking. I feel they try to let the OL overdominate the defense at times to make up for the CPU RB tunnel vision and their lack of using special moves. On most of the big runs by the CPU comes from every single OLinemen quickly beating the DL and getting to the 2nd and 3rd level. Besides broken tackles, you dont really see RBs really hurting Defenses. I dont mind seeing those plays happening, but not all the time. Most of the big runs IRL comes from either when a OL springs a block and the RB finishes it up or when the RB does all the work.


I really hope this is improved for next year as it was a real downer for me. I want to see scat backs spin and juke while big backs lower their shoulder more. Just not enough personality in the running game imo. Same goes for the passing game as the cpu QBs never looked towards their best wide receivers. A Justin Blackmon type of player is under utilized completely. If RBs don't run to their strengths and QBs don't target their best players every team ends up feeling very similar. I want to see dominant players dominate and also do it in a way that reflects their abilities.


I agree.
The only thing I look for when I face a opposing RB is Speed and Break Tackle. I should fear a RB that has 88 speed, but has 90+ Truck or even Elusiveness and Juke.
I dont some WRs being targeted more. I mainly see Slot WRs being targeted more. My slot CBs were getting thrown to so much that I had to switch up the lineup. I think the opposing Cbs are a factor. Besides Slants and Verticals, Top WRs dont get the ball much


It's too bad that EA wouldn't think about even getting, let's say, 250 to 350 of us 'sim style' type players to come in, play a few games the RIGHT way, and be able to build AI based on it. Where we use the receivers, RBs and even QBs the way they're supposed to be used, and making it so.

Obviously just a dream.

[keyser soze]

martywebb, just so you know, in real life "SIM" wouldn't exist if there was easier ways to score points. EA needs to FIX the game so playing "SIM" style actually gives the best results.

[baseballplyrmvp]

It's too bad that EA wouldn't think about even getting, let's say, 250 to 350 of us 'sim style' type players to come in, play a few games the RIGHT way, and be able to build AI based on it. Where we use the receivers, RBs and even QBs the way they're supposed to be used, and making it so.

Obviously just a dream.you do have a point though. they need to bring more people in to help test and find bugs. just using 10-15 guys and letting them play for 3 days non stop isnt enough. thats not a knock on the guys who do go to the community events every year, but there's only so much they can find and look for in that certain amount of time. bring in more people would help both sides.

[martywebb]

martywebb, just so you know, in real life "SIM" wouldn't exist if there was easier ways to score points. EA needs to FIX the game so playing "SIM" style actually gives the best results.

Agreed.


you do have a point though. they need to bring more people in to help test and find bugs. just using 10-15 guys and letting them play for 3 days non stop isnt enough. thats not a knock on the guys who do go to the community events every year, but there's only so much they can find and look for in that certain amount of time. bring in more people would help both sides.

I'd do it for a free copy of the game. I think it'd be a blast to get together for 3-7 days with other players and just play.

[ram29jackson]

well, I didnt play sim last night LOL

I kept going on 4th down for the heck of it and found new commentary( It was new to me) after the 3rd or 4th time, the announer ..was commenting ina suprised fashion that i was going for it again...but it goes back to normal after th3rd or 4th time with no memory of the prvious ones..or maybe it has to be on the same drive downfield

[baseballplyrmvp]

I'd do it for a free copy of the game. I think it'd be a blast to get together for 3-7 days with other players and just play.you'd be doing a hell of a lot more than just playing the game. i'm sure everyone would be required to keep a very detailed log of any bugs they encounter during gameplay. that alone would take a lot of time in itself (recording the game situation, bug description, etc)

[SmoothPancakes]

you'd be doing a hell of a lot more than just playing the game. i'm sure everyone would be required to keep a very detailed log of any bugs they encounter during gameplay. that alone would take a lot of time in itself (recording the game situation, bug description, etc)

Yep. Based on the comments by those in the game changers program on here, it isn't "just playing the game". You're looking for bugs, you're looking for problem and issues in the game. You're testing out various things and seeing what kind of response you get from the game. Yes, you're playing through maybe a half a game or a full game at a time, but you're not just kicking back and playing the game like you would do at home.

Personally, I'm one of those who would like to just play the game, so being one of those guys going down there and while you are getting to play, you have to be looking for bugs or issues, you have the developers asking you to try certain things to test new or updated stuff out, etc, not sure how well that would end with me, as I'm one who does just like to kick back and play.

[martywebb]

I could see that getting annoying, but for the greater good of the game, I still think it'd be pretty interesting to do. Dreams will be dreams.

[Rudy]

I'm not sure how having more guys playing the game would really change much. The overall feel of the game has been the same for over 5 years now. The way the players move and feel is the way the developers want them to be. This isn't the early stages of a console's life, this is the second half of it. All core gameplay issues are designed this way on purpose and you won't see any major changes going forward, just small tweaks. If you like the way players have very little momentum then it's fine. If you are disappointed in this I wouldn't hold your breath about seeing it changed as long as the same guys are writing the code.

[ram29jackson]

some things are so botched up : purple zone defenders line up to othe other side of the field before the ball is snapped...?

and if you hot route a DE to man up on the Running back..he just stands there or moves in a slow circle like he has a cuncussion LOL....another problem thats been there for a while is you cant throw a touch/lob pass to a RB who's just 5-10 yards down field ,the ball sales away and he has to run under it into coverage...i know its old news, just re-hashing it

[morsdraconis]

Two times I've tried to get back into playing NCAA 12 and BOTH times it's frozen up in the middle of games. I give up.

[jaymo76]

I'm not sure how having more guys playing the game would really change much. The overall feel of the game has been the same for over 5 years now. The way the players move and feel is the way the developers want them to be. This isn't the early stages of a console's life, this is the second half of it. All core gameplay issues are designed this way on purpose and you won't see any major changes going forward, just small tweaks. If you like the way players have very little momentum then it's fine. If you are disappointed in this I wouldn't hold your breath about seeing it changed as long as the same guys are writing the code.

With changes to both the Madden and NCAA team for the 13 cycle I wonder if more philosophical changes will be coming in the near future?

[baseballplyrmvp]

I'm not sure how having more guys playing the game would really change much. The overall feel of the game has been the same for over 5 years now. The way the players move and feel is the way the developers want them to be. This isn't the early stages of a console's life, this is the second half of it. All core gameplay issues are designed this way on purpose and you won't see any major changes going forward, just small tweaks. If you like the way players have very little momentum then it's fine. If you are disappointed in this I wouldn't hold your breath about seeing it changed as long as the same guys are writing the code.more guys might not change the game a whole lot, but more people being there allows for more feedback being given, as well as a higher chance of running into bugs/glitches

those two things should be pretty valuable to the developers, imo.

[ram29jackson]

I found a play in the Cental Mich. playbook that doesnt work

ace-normal-trips-stick

I snapped ball and let the QB back up by himself..but all he did was take snap and hop to the right and stay there...unless theres something I dont understand about football or the play, shouldnt he be back pedaling ? LOL

[keyser soze]

I found a play in the Cental Mich. playbook that doesnt work

ace-normal-trips-stick

I snapped ball and let the QB back up by himself..but all he did was take snap and hop to the right and stay there...unless theres something I dont understand about football or the play, shouldnt he be back pedaling ? LOL

I posted about this a while back... the QB walks in front of the OG and gets instant sacked... pretty sweet! I simply deleted this entire formation.

[ram29jackson]

this has nagged me for a while..team builder, this particular shirt/jersey option has a wide side stripe that you are suppose to be able to color as you want but it just comes out black and sometimes looks grey, they dont bother to fix this after 2 years...also, the helmet is the Oregon State Nike pro combat one and the numbers on the back come out pink/purple instead of orange or white

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[ram29jackson]

you cant pick the stadium you want to play in in a unranked game or something ,can you ?
thats too bad because it would be cool to set up a real life bowl match up just to play it.

I guess the best you could do was start a dynasty and advance it to the bowl games and in vite friends to pick a team to use thats in a bowl for head to head games..

[illwill10]

I am having constant freezing. I just had 2 freezes with 30 mins in the Offline Dynasty menu while recruiting and editing playbook. I had a chance to save before recruiting, but not while editing playbook. now I gotta do it all over again

[baseballplyrmvp]

there should be a new achievement next year in 13 for dynasty mode-

"Unanimous Decision" - be the unanimous #1 team in both the media and coaches poll.

[jaymo76]

there should be a new achievement next year in 13 for dynasty mode-

"Unanimous Decision" - be the unanimous #1 team in both the media and coaches poll.

Also, if we are truly an FBS coach, give us a VOTE in the coaches poll!

[souljahbill]

So, I've gotten back into '12 with '13 on the horizon. I'm playing my dynasty, working as the DC of my TB team. I think there's some "funny programming" in the code. It feels like the outcome is determined before the game even starts. Some weeks, my team (as a whole) plays great and some weeks, I don't know what team is disguised in my uniforms. Highly inconsistent. I've had games where my defense played the way I expect them to play and I've had games where we couldn't tackle 11 random fans from the crowd. I've blown out good teams and been blown out by bad teams. I wonder if that inconsistency is somehow programmed into the game because I swear, when my team is good, they're good but when they're bad, it's difficult not to rage quit.

[souljahbill]

I am having constant freezing. I just had 2 freezes with 30 mins in the Offline Dynasty menu while recruiting and editing playbook. I had a chance to save before recruiting, but not while editing playbook. now I gotta do it all over again

I'm freezing a lot too. (PS3)

[SmoothPancakes]

So, I've gotten back into '12 with '13 on the horizon. I'm playing my dynasty, working as the DC of my TB team. I think there's some "funny programming" in the code. It feels like the outcome is determined before the game even starts. Some weeks, my team (as a whole) plays great and some weeks, I don't know what team is disguised in my uniforms. Highly inconsistent. I've had games where my defense played the way I expect them to play and I've had games where we couldn't tackle 11 random fans from the crowd. I've blown out good teams and been blown out by bad teams. I wonder if that inconsistency is somehow programmed into the game because I swear, when my team is good, they're good but when they're bad, it's difficult not to rage quit.

Yep, that's something I've always felt and believed for a while. In my FIU dynasty, despite Duke being better than me, I was able to beat Duke by a field goal both games in the first two years of my dynasty. Same thing with Troy. All three years of my FIU dynasty, Troy has been the better team, yet I have a 2-1 record against them, winning games in years two and three. Meanwhile, in year three of my dynaty, despite Louisville being a horrible team in years two and three of my dynasty, I'm 0-3 against them and can't figure out how to beat them. In year three, Louisville is the worst they have been of the three seasons I've played in my dynasty, yet I still lost 35-16, and other than leading 3-0 in the first quarter, basically had my ass handed to me by the Cardinals.

Based on the results of three years of games in my dynasty, I am a firm believer in the "determined before the start of the game" results, where I'll go into games and have my defense play like the Pittsburgh Steelers and beat teams I shouldn't, and then I'll have games where my defense is Swiss cheese, my offense can't do anything but throw interceptions and fumble the ball, and no matter what I try to do, I'll lose the game, even against a team that is decidedly worse than my team.

[souljahbill]

I now know what LSU's defense felt like against Alabama in the BCS Championship Game. I swear, my offense is SOOOO bad in dynasty (I'm a DC) that it's infuriating. Our QB is worse then Tebow on a bad day. He completes 43% of his passes but the last game, it was under 30%. I literally just earned the Tire Fire Offense trophy. I won 21-14 despite the offense having only 188 total yards and no TDs. I had 2 pick 6's and we returned a kickoff for a TD. This offense is literally making my hair grey(er), it's so bad. http://img.tapatalk.com/63bcbdb3-14b6-7fdc.jpg

[morsdraconis]

Wow, you have two different players with 12.5 sacks?! That's ridiculous!

[souljahbill]

Not in a game. That was end-of-season.

[morsdraconis]

Not in a game. That was end-of-season.

Right. That's still ridiculous. I've had one, but definitely not two with even 10+

[souljahbill]

When UNLV, BYU, and Hawaii are on your schedule, some stats tend to inflate. My QB ended up with a comp. % of 43% so we ended up playing A LOT more defense then we should have.

[baseballplyrmvp]

Right. That's still ridiculous. I've had one, but definitely not two with even 10+it gets a lot easier when you have elite players though. in my offline :USC: dynasty, my front 4 accumulated 59 sacks last season. most of em came by only rushing 4 too.

[souljahbill]

Signs that the computer will beat you regardless of what you do:

1) The QB begins trucking DTs. Will happen on every 3rd down.

2)Put 11 into coverage, CPU QB will still find a wide open WR with no defender within 10 yards.

3)Blitz 11. QB will still have 10 minutes to throw because everyone is picked up.

4)If it's 3rd down, the CPU RB will break 3 tackles and get 8 yards on 3rd and 7. Multiple times on a "clock-killing" drive.

I just lost 24-17. I don't feel like I was beaten. I can accept that. I feel like I was playing another "predetermined" game and all I could do was watch it unfold.

Edit: Sidenote-My QB was 15 for 43. WTF? SMH! (Remember, I'm playing as a DC in dynasty)


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[SmoothPancakes]

Signs that the computer will beat you regardless of what you do:

1) The QB begins trucking DTs. Will happen on every 3rd down.

2)Put 11 into coverage, CPU QB will still find a wide open WR with no defender within 10 yards.

3)Blitz 11. QB will still have 10 minutes to throw because everyone is picked up.

4)If it's 3rd down, the CPU RB will break 3 tackles and get 8 yards on 3rd and 7. Multiple times on a "clock-killing" drive.

I just lost 24-17. I don't feel like I was beaten. I can accept that. I feel like I was playing another "predetermined" game and all I could do was watch it unfold.

Edit: Sidenote-My QB was 15 for 43. WTF? SMH! (Remember, I'm playing as a DC in dynasty)


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Yep, I know what you mean. In my FIU dynasty, I'm playing as a OC, but even when controlling my QB or RB, my QB will play some games like he's Joe Montana, connecting on passes left and right, throwing for multiple touchdowns, etc, but then the next game, he's Tim Tebow, overthrowing or underthrowing everyone, throws three or four interceptions, can't do anything right.

My CPU simmed defense is also a clusterfuck. Some games they will play tough and shut out an opponent, hold an opponent to less than 200 or 300 yards of offense, intercept the ball three or four times a game. Then I go into a game against one of the weakest teams on my schedule, and my offense rolls over and plays dead, commits penalties every drive (conveniently on third and medium or third and long to give the offense a new set of downs), gives up 50 yard TD bombs, gives up 500+ yards of offense.

There are games where I just know I'm going to be in trouble (and usually I get those bad feelings when I'm about to play the worst teams on my schedule), and other games where I'm expecting to be in trouble, but then steamroll over a much better team.

[souljahbill]

Just did something incredible. On the CPU's first 3 offensive plays of the game, the computer threw 3 pick 6's...........to the same guy.

[JeffHCross]

Clearly, the CPU decided the CPU would not win this game.

[jaymo76]

it gets a lot easier when you have elite players though. in my offline :USC: dynasty, my front 4 accumulated 59 sacks last season. most of em came by only rushing 4 too.

Yeah once you become an elite programme your D line (well primarily DT's) will have at least forty sacks each season.

[souljahbill]

Clearly, the CPU decided the CPU would not win this game.

Clearly. :D

[souljahbill]

Then I go into a game against one of the weakest teams on my schedule, and my offense rolls over and plays dead, commits penalties every drive (conveniently on third and medium or third and long to give the offense a new set of downs), gives up 50 yard TD bombs, gives up 500+ yards of offense.

Mine does the EXACT same thing. I, fortunately, stop the offense on 3rd and long, forcing a punt, and I'm IMMEDIATELY back on the field. I look up what happened in the highlights section and it says, "15 yd penalty."

[psusnoop]

Mine does the EXACT same thing. I, fortunately, stop the offense on 3rd and long, forcing a punt, and I'm IMMEDIATELY back on the field. I look up what happened in the highlights section and it says, "15 yd penalty."

Playing as defensive coordinator I can't stress it enough you have to press R1 and "Watch" every single snap.

I have played as Defensive Coordinator in SBCOL as well as TGT's PS3 OD's and have logged lots of game time doing it. Watching every snap will fix the mystery penalties like you just mentioned. I'm sure you have seen XP misses as well from simming, correct? It will also and more importantly do a better job (not perfect by any means) but a better job of controlling the game clock towards the end of the game as well. Your QB will complete more then 43% of his passes, most likely going upwards of 55% just by watching every snap. It will greatly greatly improve the time of possession and level the playing field of the number of snaps each team is getting in a game as well.

I know I'm rambling and there is quite a bit more as to why it's important to watch over SIM but I think you'll get the idea from this and see the results next time you play. For the QB keep in mind of the yearly completion stats because even watching his next game may be shitty, but just watch for the season and his percentage will surely come up.

[souljahbill]

By the way, I EASILY won the national championship as a DC vs. TCU (a team I was inferior to in off, def, and ovr) after BARELY winning the PAC-12 championship (having to scrap and claw to beat Utah St., a team that was a good 10 points below in mine in off, def, & ovr), I got offered a 4 year contract extension. I declined and lo and behold, my "dream job" opened up at my alma mater. I'm now the HC at Southern Miss. Previous coach (Larry Fedora) got fired. We're 5-1 so far, getting waxed by Alabama (99 across the board in ovr, off, and def). Meanwhile, the team I left, (TB team-Hawaii Tech) lost 2 of its 1st 3 game, both at home, 1 to Bowling Green by double digits. I left HI Tech STACKED (I was at the point where I was redshirting 4 and 5 star recruits) so them losing, 2 at home, after FINALLY getting them onto the Home Team Advantage list was an ego boost.

[souljahbill]

Playing as defensive coordinator I can't stress it enough you have to press R1 and "Watch" every single snap.

I have played as Defensive Coordinator in SBCOL as well as TGT's PS3 OD's and have logged lots of game time doing it. Watching every snap will fix the mystery penalties like you just mentioned. I'm sure you have seen XP misses as well from simming, correct? It will also and more importantly do a better job (not perfect by any means) but a better job of controlling the game clock towards the end of the game as well. Your QB will complete more then 43% of his passes, most likely going upwards of 55% just by watching every snap. It will greatly greatly improve the time of possession and level the playing field of the number of snaps each team is getting in a game as well.

I know I'm rambling and there is quite a bit more as to why it's important to watch over SIM but I think you'll get the idea from this and see the results next time you play. For the QB keep in mind of the yearly completion stats because even watching his next game may be shitty, but just watch for the season and his percentage will surely come up.

If only I heard your wise words before I took another job. I will most certainly do this in NCAA '13.

[psusnoop]

If only I heard your wise words before I took another job. I will most certainly do this in NCAA '13.

Yeah most of our OD's are just going to start out with HC's but I'll be looking for another one maybe to play as Defensive Coordinator to see if I can build up a super power quicker.

[ryby6969]

Yeah most of our OD's are just going to start out with HC's but I'll be looking for another one maybe to play as Defensive Coordinator to see if I can build up a super power quicker.

Not if you keep playing offense like you have in user games! ;)

[psusnoop]

Not if you keep playing offense like you have in user games! ;)

NO kidding!! I have to figure this shit out, I have had a terrible 2012 year. Some big wins but more and more losses then I'm used to. My offense is stale to say the least, another reason I've been toying around with Tulsa's PB just get out of my personal comfort zone.

[ryby6969]

It is funny, because this has been possibly my best season as far as offense, and my worse when it comes to defense. In the gameplay vid for the Heisman Challenge, I liked how Desmond looked for the ball as well as the defenders on the picks. Hopefully this year it will be balanced enough where you can win with offense or defense.

[psusnoop]

It is funny, because this has been possibly my best season as far as offense, and my worse when it comes to defense. In the gameplay vid for the Heisman Challenge, I liked how Desmond looked for the ball as well as the defenders on the picks. Hopefully this year it will be balanced enough where you can win with offense or defense.

That was really nice, and I want to go back and rewatch that vid again :D

I really hope so, seems I can't catch a break and force way way to many balls. My conservative play calling hasn't been to my advantage that is for sure.

[souljahbill]

10-3 my first season as HC at Southern Miss. Lost to Alabama, Auburn, and Mississippi St. Beat Nevada in the Holiday Bowl. #14 recruiting class. I also convinced my star RB to come back for his Sr. year after rushing for over 1,000 yds. I also have a much faster QB (though I wouldn't say he's "fast") so now I can get rid of all the formation-sub-created-wildcat-formations I made and just use my QB full time to run some option (which I got kinda good at). We're not at Auburn/Alabama/LSU level yet but let me get another 2 recruiting classes under my belt and we're gonna be sick.

[ram29jackson]

NCAA 13 better have some defense in it... I just played possibly my last user vs user dynasty game for the year after playing madden so much and had no faith in any of my defenders. You have to call the perfect play every time or its a huge gain. In madden , I can trust my defensive line in Madden to at least do something positive.

[ram29jackson]

it appears Jasper's last online team builder bowl game will be against... Nebraska !

[souljahbill]

So, not including a conference championship game or bowl game, I had 8 games in dynasty left of the season I was playing pre-demo. I figured, with 2 weeks to go, I'll go out with a bang. I put the difficulty on Freshmen and had my most enjoyable 10 games of NCAA 12. It was Hakuna Matata all the way through the season. I ended up beating GA Tech in the BCS Championship 59-0 or something like that. I ended up with the #3 recruiting class as well.

So now that I brought a crystal football to Hattiesburg, I can now let the Mark Ingram edition of NCAA football retire and make way for the RGIII/Barry Sanders edition.

[baseballplyrmvp]

hopefully ncaa13's dynasty player progression model allows for more stat based progression. there's no reason for my 99 ovr fullback, who's only had 2 carries in his entire 4 year career, to have a 98 carrying rating. :D

[souljahbill]

Coaching Carousel, you amuse me sometimes. This JUST happened in my dynasty:
http://img.tapatalk.com/63bcbdb3-715a-0589.jpg
Bringing the tactical advantage BACK to South Bend! :D

[souljahbill]

Oh My God! It doesn't stop there!
http://img.tapatalk.com/63bcbdb3-7264-c254.jpg

[ram29jackson]

...if its in the game...