Playstation 3 Discussion

[JBHuskers]

You talking about the champagne?

Lololololololol

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[SmoothPancakes]

Dammit! I need more time to build up my pathetic golfer for TGA! :smh:

Same here. :( Assassin's Creed 1/2/Brotherhood and NBA 2K11 has completely dominated my game playing time for the past month. I haven't worked on my golfer in weeks. :(

[I OU a Beatn]

Sources on another site say it just went live for New York.

EDIT: Yep, map updated. Much of Northeastern coast is live. DAMN IT! I'm one state down. Really, Sony? :P

[DariusLock]

first areas up. north east corner down to NY and New Jersey.

UPDATE: Getting an error when I go to PS Blog.

[JBHuskers]

Sources on another site say it just went live for New York.

EDIT: Yep, map updated. Much of Northeastern coast is live. DAMN IT! I'm one state down. Really, Sony? :P

Let's hope this spreads like the Chimera :D

[ram29jackson]

East coast up- just having some fun haha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru3gH27Fn6E

[JBHuskers]

^^^ favorite Beasties song EVAR

[DariusLock]

I want MS online!

OK PS site is having a few probs. I guess haha.

[ram29jackson]

if it happens again, someone harass customer service


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhCVX0-9TIc

[JBHuskers]

Anyone have a site link to that map? The image on here didn't update.

[I OU a Beatn]

Anyone have a site link to that map? The image on here didn't update.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/05/14/play-on-–-psn-restoration-begins-now/

[JBHuskers]

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/05/14/play-on-–-psn-restoration-begins-now/

Thanks bro!

[I OU a Beatn]

California just went live.

[JBHuskers]

Nebraska will probably be after Alaska :fdown:

[psusnoop]

An PA after Hawaii Grrrr

[I OU a Beatn]

:D Probably.

[JBHuskers]

I think Guam just went live them sonsabitches!

[I OU a Beatn]

People in Florida are playing SOCOM, so I'd say their next.

[psusnoop]

I bet Idaho is next!

[JBHuskers]

People in Florida are playing SOCOM, so I'd say their next.

Did you tell Florida, "I'm sorry." :D

[JBHuskers]

This could be the most watched map ever :D

[I OU a Beatn]

It's so pointless, too. Is everyone unaware that the world is ending in exactly one week? I feel that this needs to be a more widely known impending apocalypse. I mean, I realize that the PS Network coming back online is a pretty big deal, but apocalypse in one week > network coming back.

:D

[bjrod9]

Come ON Texas! lol

[JBHuskers]

It's so pointless, too. Is everyone unaware that the world is ending in exactly one week? I feel that this needs to be a more widely known impending apocalypse. I mean, I realize that the PS Network coming back online is a pretty big deal, but apocalypse in one week > network coming back.

:D

End of the world, yackity schmackity

http://www.gifninja.com/animatedgifs/249/yawn.gif

[I OU a Beatn]

HEY! Save it for the .gif thread! She's cute, though, so I approve.

[JBHuskers]

HEY! Save it for the .gif thread! She's cute, though, so I approve.

Never thought a yawn would look so hot huh? :P

[JeffHCross]

:D Wow. :smh:My program has a vendor in the UK, so our phone calls depend on that knowledge :D

[I OU a Beatn]

I'm seeing some S4 players in the midwest. Looks like Nebraska, Iowa, or Missouri. Also a couple dots in the deep south.

[ram29jackson]

ok so..If I plug in my new ps3, will I be able to log/sign in in to my old account to get what I had before and than i can change my info if I want?

I never bought anything with a credit card on my psn I just want what ever side stuff I got with my 2011 games...


I probably wont do it till tomorrow, so can you let me know about this part, please.- thanks

[I OU a Beatn]

You should be able to, yes.

[JBHuskers]

The map hasn't updated since California, I'm going to give mine a try now.

[I OU a Beatn]

They called it a night. :D

[JeffHCross]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/13/us-sony-idUSTRE74C70420110513


(Reuters) - Sony Corp's computer networks remain vulnerable to attack three weeks after the company learned that it had been victim of one of the biggest data breaches in history, according to an Internet security expert.

Security researcher John Bumgarner discovered a potential bonanza for hackers by using little more than a web browser, Google's search engine and a basic understanding of Internet security systems.

Bumgarner, a well-regarded Internet security researcher and U.S. military special operations veteran, identified a handful of flaws that would be easy for a hacker to identify and potentially exploit.
:smh:

[JBHuskers]

They called it a night. :D

Probably....:D

Just tried mine and it didn't work.

[bjrod9]

map updated

[I OU a Beatn]

North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, and Florida all went live.

...and Maryland. WHAT?! Let me guess...Ohio and West Virginia are going to be next. :rolleyes::fp:

[psusnoop]

Sitting in PA if that happens OU I'm going to disappointed hahaha

[cdj]

I feel like I should light a candle as I wait for service restoration. 'The night the PSN blackout ended..."

[I OU a Beatn]

It shows people playing S4 in PA, but still can't log in...and that map hasn't updated for about an hour.

[gschwendt]

It shows people playing S4 in PA, but still can't log in...and that map hasn't updated for about an hour.
Where are you seeing people playing in certain states?

[JBHuskers]

It shows people playing S4 in PA, but still can't log in...and that map hasn't updated for about an hour.

I'm playing Gears so it's not like I'm going to get on and play online on PS3 tonight, just want to get my password changed.

[I OU a Beatn]

Where are you seeing people playing in certain states?

http://www.socom.com

There's a map on the bottom left. It's small, but you can still make it out fairly well.

[I OU a Beatn]

I'm playing Gears so it's not like I'm going to get on and play online on PS3 tonight, just want to get my password changed.

Tomorrow is the last day for Retro Lancer kills! You better do some merkin'.

[gschwendt]

http://www.socom.com

There's a map on the bottom left. It's small, but you can still make it out fairly well.
Ah... gracias.

[I OU a Beatn]

Touchdown, PA! I'm in!

[psusnoop]

I'm turning in.

[cdj]

Touchdown, PA! I'm in!

Let us know how the cross-game voice chat is.

:P

[I OU a Beatn]

It's a lot like it was before. :D

[cdj]

That good, huh? ;)

I try to understand the tech behind video games & computers, etc. ....but I don't understand why the regional 'roll out' takes so long. Can someone explain it to me?

[I OU a Beatn]

Big update: PA, Delaware, West Virginia, Ohio, Indiana and Michigan all up.

[JBHuskers]

Tomorrow is the last day for Retro Lancer kills! You better do some merkin'.

86/100 right now :nod:

[JBHuskers]

Big update: PA, Delaware, West Virginia, Ohio, Indiana and Michigan all up.

Earlier I said this is like the Chimera spreading...now I'm kinda thinking it's more like Election Night, and Nebraska has zero electoral votes right now.

[I OU a Beatn]

Is it wrong of me to hope Alabama is the last state to get it turned back on? :D

[I OU a Beatn]

It deleted everyone off my block list, which was like 50 people. That's a bummer. I guess I'm going to have to go through and block everyone again. No hard feelings, JB and CDJ. :D:P

[cdj]

No hard feelings at all, man. That means I have one less to block later.

[cdj]

I think I am going to have to call it a night. I'm fading and I just don't think I can stay up to make sure Santa PSN arrives. :(

[I OU a Beatn]

Good news: S4 still sucks.

[gschwendt]

I think I am going to have to call it a night. I'm fading and I just don't think I can stay up to make sure Santa PSN arrives. :(
Yeah, it's not like I'm going to be doing any serious gaming tonight anyway so I figure I'll just unwrap the presents in the morning.

[gschwendt]

Awesome post from OS I'm stealing:
"Kazuo Hirai doesn't care about Midwestern people." --Kanye West

[I OU a Beatn]

Awesome post from OS I'm stealing:
"Kazuo Hirai doesn't care about Midwestern people." --Kanye West

:D:D:D

[JBHuskers]

Awesome post from OS I'm stealing:
"Kazuo Hirai doesn't care about Midwestern people." --Kanye West

:D :up:

[I OU a Beatn]

Entire west coast now online. Looks like you midwest guys are next.

[I OU a Beatn]

For the people in Nebraska, Oklahoma, Kansas, Texas, Minnesota, Iowa, Missouri, Arkansas, Louisiana, Wisconsin, Illinois, Arkansas, Tennessee, Kentucky, Alabama, and Mississippi - I just want you to know that Alaska, Puerto Rico, and Hawaii were all activated ahead of you. :D

[JBHuskers]

For the people in Nebraska, Oklahoma, Kansas, Texas, Minnesota, Iowa, Missouri, Arkansas, Louisiana, Wisconsin, Illinois, Arkansas, Tennessee, Kentucky, Alabama, and Mississippi - I just want you to know that Alaska, Puerto Rico, and Hawaii were all activated ahead of you. :D

Blow me lol

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[I OU a Beatn]

It's official. Everyone in North America and Canada are online!

[souljahbill]

Good thing I didn't wait up (Louisiana boy, here).

[CLW]

Headed to New Orleans tomorrow for business. Hopefully, my hotel there won't have a 3000 lb entertainment center set up in it so that I cannot hook up my PS3.

[JeffHCross]

I try to understand the tech behind video games & computers, etc. ....but I don't understand why the regional 'roll out' takes so long. Can someone explain it to me?I'll be honest, cdj, I know a lot about computer networks and how infrastructures are setup -- and this one has me baffled too. I guess the question that neither of us have the answer to is what were they turning "on"? I can't imagine that PSN has regional logon servers, or servers that are state by state, but maybe they do. I can understand why the entire Northeast went live at the same time, then, because maybe all of New England is going through servers in New York. But Maryland turning on as a standalone state is very strange ... you'd think they'd be grouped in with Delaware, DC, or Virginia at least.

[bjrod9]

i go to reset my password,it then tells me an email will be sent to me.Been a longtime and havent received it,then it tells me,a server error has occured. Did this happen to anyone else?

[bjrod9]

i go to reset my password,it then tells me an email will be sent to me.Been a longtime and havent received it,then it tells me,a server error has occured. Did this happen to anyone else?

ok im in!

[psusnoop]

So PA comes up right as I turn in for the night. Oh well, I was beat.

I need to change my password and stuff then I'll be all set.

[cdj]

Since our fearless PSN leader is snoozing.....

http://www.balloonmaniacs.com/images/chateauchampagnebottleheliumballoon.jpg

[DariusLock]

For the people in Nebraska, Oklahoma, Kansas, Texas, Minnesota, Iowa, Missouri, Arkansas, Louisiana, Wisconsin, Illinois, Arkansas, Tennessee, Kentucky, Alabama, and Mississippi - I just want you to know that Alaska, Puerto Rico, and Hawaii were all activated ahead of you. :D

As soon as I seen they jumped from NY/NJ and then put California online I knew I might as well go to bed and just wake up to PSN like a Christmas almost lmao.

[bjrod9]

Since our fearless PSN leader is snoozing.....

http://www.balloonmaniacs.com/images/chateauchampagnebottleheliumballoon.jpg

Let me have another glass!

[cdj]

Let me have another glass!

Here you go (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_tZZA1qwHK5E/SYvDxlfGbII/AAAAAAAAGyA/7XiOEBDhEwg/s400/WL2H7415b.jpg)!


With the 'Last Signed In' status under user names, it's funny to see who has signed in and who has not. It's been 24 days since PSN went down. A long time, but didn't feel quite that bad. Though, I'm sure to game companies, devs, and Sony it felt like an eternity.

[gschwendt]

So a big negative to the store being down... I can't download my Online Pass for games on my new console. :smh:

[souljahbill]

So a big negative to the store being down... I can't download my Online Pass for games on my new console. :smh:

Yeah, I was wondering why the store, of all things, is down. How compromised was that? I figured that was the MOST secure thing about PSN.


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[I OU a Beatn]

I'm guessing the store isn't going to be up until the May 31 deadline, which sucks. I have so much stuff to download it isn't even funny.

[souljahbill]

Since our fearless PSN leader is snoozing.....

http://www.balloonmaniacs.com/images/chateauchampagnebottleheliumballoon.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqayCgvI_uI&feature=artist

[gschwendt]

Why are we popping the champagne from a mylar balloon? Do they sell champagne filled balloons at the flower shop now?

[DariusLock]

Did it take anyone else a long time to get a reset e-mail from Sony? Maybe it's because I went through the website?

Also... We get Playstation+ but the Store isn't up yet? What's the point in that?

[gschwendt]

Did it take anyone else a long time to get a reset e-mail from Sony? Maybe it's because I went through the website?

Also... We get Playstation+ but the Store isn't up yet? What's the point in that?
I've seen others mention the same thing regarding emails. You have to think about how many people are probably going through that same process.

I'm sure the PS+ doesn't actually actually start counting down the number of days until the PS Store returns.

[DariusLock]

Thanks for calming me down haha, I'm still waiting on control of my tv. My 3 year old daughter insist on watching Hook on the big screen. She has two other free t.v.'s in the house but has to take the one in the living room :(.

Also: Has anyone tried entering online codes in through the Playstation Network website? I wonder if that would work.

[JBHuskers]

Yeah I slept in .... so here we go!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-31sf8g8CpJo/TaP0UQVeAjI/AAAAAAAABHo/Xqy-tSekY6c/s1600/champagne.jpg

[HuskerBlitz]

I wonder if they store is down until they get a more secured set up in place. That's where people would enter their personal stuff and card numbers.

[JeffHCross]

I thought that too, HB, but all of the account information in Account Management is still there. I'd imagine they just worked to get the Online Play servers back up first, and they're still working to secure the Store, as a secondary priority. It was implied early on that the Store wouldn't be returning as quickly as Online Play.

[JBHuskers]

I can't get online at all yet? Says it's still under maitenance, when I try to sign on through the PS3 and try to sign into my account on the net.

[JBHuskers]

I can't get online at all yet? Says it's still under maitenance, when I try to sign on through the PS3 and try to sign into my account on the net.

Guess it hasn't reached Lincoln yet :D


Sony's senior director of corporate communications and social media, Patrick Seybold, notes that it may take some time before servers are populated to the max, so don't panic if you can't access PSN immediately. The first phase of network restoration includes online play, Qriocity, video streaming, friend list functionality and PlayStation Home. The PlayStation Store is still out of commission.

[ram29jackson]

Did it take anyone else a long time to get a reset e-mail from Sony? Maybe it's because I went through the website?

Also... We get Playstation+ but the Store isn't up yet? What's the point in that?


I'm trying to change password through my PC and not getting anywhere yet. I assume I dont know my old one because
Last night I tried and didnt work . So now i'm trying to go through the changing process on my PC but the site doesnt load or get to page or what ever >>>?!!!

[DariusLock]

I can't get online at all yet? Says it's still under maitenance, when I try to sign on through the PS3 and try to sign into my account on the net.

Mine is saying Under Maintenance again as well, I was online earlier. Hopefully they are adding the store or something cool like that and it's not another hacker attack.

UPDATE: Netflix is still working so I'm all good. I'm just playing through the Uncharted 2 campaign...

[I OU a Beatn]

Well shit, I'm not logging off. Ever. :D

[cdj]

I can't get online at all yet? Says it's still under maitenance, when I try to sign on through the PS3 and try to sign into my account on the net.

Mine worked this morning when I signed in, changed password, and checked status of OD. Haven't been on or tried since.

[UGA14]

I'll be honest, cdj, I know a lot about computer networks and how infrastructures are setup -- and this one has me baffled too. I guess the question that neither of us have the answer to is what were they turning "on"? I can't imagine that PSN has regional logon servers, or servers that are state by state, but maybe they do. I can understand why the entire Northeast went live at the same time, then, because maybe all of New England is going through servers in New York. But Maryland turning on as a standalone state is very strange ... you'd think they'd be grouped in with Delaware, DC, or Virginia at least.

We do phased roll-outs when we don't want to overwhelm our system. Specifically something that's been mostly untested for a month.

[ram29jackson]

trying to change password on my PC and after a few steps it still keeps - going to- internet explorer cannot display this webpage

[JeffHCross]

We do phased roll-outs when we don't want to overwhelm our system. Specifically something that's been mostly untested for a month.Yeah, I get that, UGA. I've seen plenty of phased roll-outs. The thing I guess that's surprising me about that is I can't figure out why it was effectively a state-by-state rollout. I imagine they must have regional re-directs or something like that ... just confusing, is all.

[jaymo76]

trying to change password on my PC and after a few steps it still keeps - going to- internet explorer cannot display this webpage

Been trying for an hour now... still no luck.

[jaymo76]

awesome... now it says the site is down for maitenance and to try again later.... :(

[CLW]

LMAO so now the story is... We claim PSN is up but it may or may not be up?

[ram29jackson]

so, whose got more or less full capacity from the State they/you are in ?

[ram29jackson]

now, trying through game and just getting error occured

[JBHuskers]

Mine works now.

[ram29jackson]

..................I'm happy for you .............................













:)

[gschwendt]

Mine worked this morning... it's down tonight though.

[CLW]

this is just a debacle. don't tell people it is back up unless its back up. :smh:

[jaymo76]

site still down... anger level rising...

[ram29jackson]

wait for chorus


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wENdZneWDYs

[ram29jackson]

IS the playstation home worth creating/ ( is it free regardless? ) the only thing I may buy is extra teambuilder slots haha

but I like the idea of the avatar and stuff as long I dont have to pay for it in the future haha


in other words - will playstation home always be free ?

yes, i've logged in as of now

[gschwendt]

IS the playstation home worth creating/ ( is it free regardless? ) the only thing I may buy is extra teambuilder slots haha

but I like the idea of the avatar and stuff as long I dont have to pay for it in the future haha


in other words - will playstation home always be free ?

yes, i've logged in as of now
To my knowledge, PS Home is free and likely always will be free, though it doesn't have anything to do with buying TeamBuilder slots. Those are sold in the PS Store.

[ram29jackson]

To my knowledge, PS Home is free and likely always will be free, though it doesn't have anything to do with buying TeamBuilder slots. Those are sold in the PS Store.

cool- thank you

[JBHuskers]

There are some things in Home that you can pay for. But you're not required to pay a dime.

[ram29jackson]

To my knowledge, PS Home is free and likely always will be free, though it doesn't have anything to do with buying TeamBuilder slots. Those are sold in the PS Store.

haha ok, I use a regular older tv. should I use the 3072 MB or change to another ? dont want to waste any more MB than I have to ?

sorry if this may be a stupid question, I just dont know about this stuff

[JeffHCross]

Ram, your question doesn't make sense. What does your TV have to do with the size of ... anything?

[JBHuskers]

Ram, your question doesn't make sense. What does your TV have to do with the size of ... anything?

Jeff, you shouldn't leave open ended questions like this laying around the forums :D

[JeffHCross]

Jeff, you shouldn't leave open ended questions like this laying around the forums :DI'm just not sure if he's talking about compensating or what ;)

[ram29jackson]

I'm just not sure if he's talking about compensating or what ;)

neither am I , thats why i'm asking ? a better question might be , why would I need to change it ?

[ram29jackson]

if I wanted to in the future, whats the best headset or blue tooth to get for this ?

[JBHuskers]

if I wanted to in the future, whats the best headset or blue tooth to get for this ?

The Sony official Bluetooth is a good one... (http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-3-Bluetooth-Headset-2-0/dp/B0042R81XU/ref=as_li_tf_sw?&camp=212361&linkCode=wsw&tag=thegamtai-20&creative=380789)

[JeffHCross]

neither am I , thats why i'm asking ? a better question might be , why would I need to change it ?Okay, sure, but ... what are you asking? What do Teambuilder, Playstation Home, your older TV and something that was 3072 MB have to do with each other?

if I wanted to in the future, whats the best headset or blue tooth to get for this ?You can get the official Bluetooth headset (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/09/03/official-bluetooth-headset-for-the-playstation-3/) (though I didn't find it to be very comfortable), practically any Bluetooth headset (http://community.us.playstation.com/thread/2344930?start=0&tstart=0), really, or go with a headset that's not Bluetooth, like the ones we discussed here (http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/forums/showthread.php?254-Playstation-3-Discussion&p=40927&viewfull=1) or here (http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/forums/showthread.php?254-Playstation-3-Discussion/page13).

[ram29jackson]

Okay, sure, but ... what are you asking? What do Teambuilder, Playstation Home, your older TV and something that was 3072 MB have to do with each other?
You can get the official Bluetooth headset (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/09/03/official-bluetooth-headset-for-the-playstation-3/) (though I didn't find it to be very comfortable), practically any Bluetooth headset (http://community.us.playstation.com/thread/2344930?start=0&tstart=0), really, or go with a headset that's not Bluetooth, like the ones we discussed here (http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/forums/showthread.php?254-Playstation-3-Discussion&p=40927&viewfull=1) or here (http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/forums/showthread.php?254-Playstation-3-Discussion/page13).


I know the other things have nothing to with the HDD. Quite frankly I didnt know HDD just meant hard disc drive till now. I thought it was some High Def term. While I use my home PC for a few things , I dont know all the slang ( sure i'm embarrassed ,but what ever hah) it wasnt common schooling for me as it was for you dudes

[DariusLock]

I use Tritton AX Pro's and they are terrific. I'm not a sound snob or anything like that, they get the job done for me. On Black Ops I can hear where people are coming from just by listening for voices, reloads, foot steps, pulling the pin on a grenade, and shots. Also when it comes the faint sounds...I can hear sounds that were never there...like the crackling of a fire in the background while I'm running. Also when a chopper comes I can pretty much close my eyes and then when I open them my guns pointed at the chopper...if that's good enough direction quality. You have to set them up a little though, the basic settings out of the box suck and are not good. I got my bass and rear speaker turned up a little more for Black Ops games because I like foot steps behind me to be louder so I can turn quicker and notice it.

Overall if you don't wanna spend almost 250$ I'd just buy the AX Pro's for 150$. They are good quality to me, I enjoy watching movies with them on and everything. The best part about headsets is everyone else in the house or neighbors hear nothing really unless they are close...but on the inside you're getting blasted away by explosions and everything else haha.

UPDATE MORE STUFF: Only warning about these Surround Sound headsets is all the wires... There is only one wire leading to the headset, but there is a lot more on the box. The AX Pro's use a sound box that you can increase the sound area(How far you pick up sounds from) and you can make volume changes. The awesome thing about all that is once u get it set up you probably won't have to touch it again. Put some zip ties on it and clean it up.... The headset has an inline controller that you can adjust FRONT/LEFT/RIGHT/REAR/BASS volume and the Chat volume without having to make a move while you're gaming. The AX Pro's use an Optical Wire to plug into the PS3.

[CLW]

So I am now in New Orleans and have hooked up the PS3. It immediately said download System Update so I am doing that. Hoping to have some PSN but not holding my breath.

[DariusLock]

I'm connected in MS so should be no prob.

[JBHuskers]

This might be the first thread to make 10k views in the Other Video Games section....thanks to the PSN going down :D

[DariusLock]

This might be the first thread to make 10k views in the Other Video Games section....thanks to the PSN going down :D

It's probably been good for traffic on a bunch of sites lol.

[JBHuskers]

It's probably been good for traffic on a bunch of sites lol.

Yep...what a debacle....

[JBHuskers]

From Joystiq.


If you've been keeping score, we've missed out on three regularly scheduled PlayStation Store updates since the service went down last month, preventing users from downloading items like the already long-delayed PSN RTS Under Siege. There's a lot of content to get caught up on -- and to get us there, the storefront will receive updates "multiple times per week once commerce functionality is restored," according to the latest PlayStation Blog FAQ.

"We will update the PlayStation.Blog with information on timing of the Store restoration," adds the FAQ, "as well as the full list of new content as each publish occurs." If you're the type who likes to spend exorbitant sums of money on each batch of PSN additions, you might want to steel yourself for the oncoming deluge.

[JBHuskers]

Sony's welcome back package:


Now that some PlayStation Network and Qriocity services have been restored and you’re once again enjoying online gaming and entertainment, we’re happy to provide details about the “Welcome Back” appreciation program for customers in North America. We developed the program as an expression of our gratitude for your patience, support and continued loyalty during the service outage. From all of us at PlayStation, thank you and welcome back!

This package will be made available to all existing registered PlayStation Network and Qriocity users in North America (US and Canada), and will be made available shortly after we have fully restored the service. More specific details about these offers and eligibility requirements will be posted as the services go live.

All PlayStation Network customers can select two PS3 games from the following list. The games will be available for 30 days shortly after PlayStation Store is restored and can be kept forever.

•Dead Nation
•inFAMOUS
•LittleBigPlanet
•Super Stardust HD
•Wipeout HD + Fury

For PSP owners, you will be eligible to download two PSP games from the following list. The games will be available for 30 days shortly after PlayStation Store is restored and can be kept forever.

•LittleBigPlanet (PSP)
•ModNation Racers
•Pursuit Force
•Killzone Liberation

•A selection of “On Us” rental movie titles will be available to PlayStation Network customers over one weekend, where Video Service is available. Those titles will be announced soon.
•30 days free PlayStation Plus membership for non PlayStation Plus subscribers.
•Existing PlayStation Plus subscribers will receive an additional 60 days of free subscription.
•Existing Music Unlimited Premium Trial subscription members will receive an additional 30 days of free premium subscription.
•Additional 30 days + time lost for existing members of Music Unlimited Premium/Basic subscription free of charge for existing Premium/Basic members.
•To welcome users Home, PlayStation Home will be offering 100 free virtual items. Additional free content will be released soon, including the next addition to the Home Mansion personal space, and Ooblag’s Alien Casino, an exclusive game.
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[JBHuskers]

Unfortunately I have every game they mention for PS3....

But 60 days free PS+ is good.

[gschwendt]

I don't have Super Stardust HD or Wipeout HD + Fury so looks like those two will be my choices. I will say that the movie rental weekend will be nice, so long as I'm around that weekend.

[Kingpin32]

I don't have any of those games. I don't know what I want to get.

[gschwendt]

I don't have any of those games. I don't know what I want to get.
Infamous should be at the top of your list.

[Kingpin32]

Infamous should be at the top of your list.

I was thinking that and LittleBigPlanet, I'm hoping I got enough space on my HDD to get both of them.

[Paakaa10]

Infamous should be at the top of your list.

Totally agree; I traded inFAMOUS in a while ago after nearly getting Platinum and regretted doing so. Apparently my regrets can go away now.

Not sure what I'll go with for the other free game; HD space is going to have a big hand in my decision since I only have the 60GB HD and I have no idea how large the game file for inFAMOUS is.

EDIT
Based on the press release when inFAMOUS originally became available for PSN, looks like it's a 6.88 GB file! Going to have to look into my available space before downloading for sure!

[ram29jackson]

All PlayStation Network customers can select two PS3 games from he following list. The games will be available for 30 days shortly after PlayStation Store is restored and can be kept forever.

can keep forever for free ? I honestly doubt I care about any of these games. I only do sports and shooters. No family,party,girlfriend games. But until I look them up, I dont know what those titles are.

Gschwendt- youre a freak dude haha. that headset sounds impressive but I dont need/want to spend 3 digits on a headset just to hear the cat move 2 apartments over haha. Just if i'm curious who the person is i'm playing. i would like a bluetooth because I have a 7 1/2 cap size head and I doubt most headsets feel comfortable.

we should have a smiley of a happy face that wears a headset haha

:New_Orleans: :Lipscomb::Norfolk_State::Santa_Clara::reeses::EA_ SPORTS:

[gschwendt]

Gschwendt- youre a freak dude haha.
Wrong guy... my headset cost $30.

[ram29jackson]

Wrong guy... my headset cost $30.

oops, wow, I mean DariusLock haha. 30 bucks would be more my speed haha



Jackson Mississippi= Jackson State= Harold Jackson....just associating is all I'm doing haha

[DariusLock]

Wow I've been looking into buying inFAMOUS but missed out on the 9.99 special at best buy....FREE IS EVEN BETTER! I don't know what other game to get though, LBP I've played and didn't enjoy it that much.

[DariusLock]

can keep forever for free ? I honestly doubt I care about any of these games. I only do sports and shooters. No family,party,girlfriend games. But until I look them up, I dont know what those titles are.

Gschwendt- youre a freak dude haha. that headset sounds impressive but I dont need/want to spend 3 digits on a headset just to hear the cat move 2 apartments over haha. Just if i'm curious who the person is i'm playing. i would like a bluetooth because I have a 7 1/2 cap size head and I doubt most headsets feel comfortable.

we should have a smiley of a happy face that wears a headset haha

:New_Orleans: :Lipscomb::Norfolk_State::Santa_Clara::reeses::EA_ SPORTS:

I'd get the Official PS Bluetooth then or search for some compatible ones.

[ram29jackson]

nykia31 first 3 minutes about PSN. The rest a positive spin on EA and football games


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ts7PNvcpEFA&feature=feedu

[ram29jackson]

All PlayStation Network customers can select two PS3 games from the following list. The games will be available for 30 days shortly after PlayStation Store is restored and can be kept forever.

•Dead Nation
•inFAMOUS
•LittleBigPlanet
•Super Stardust HD
•Wipeout HD + Fury


just moving list to page for visibility

[JeffHCross]

I know the other things have nothing to with the HDD. Quite frankly I didnt know HDD just meant hard disc drive till now. I thought it was some High Def term. While I use my home PC for a few things , I dont know all the slang ( sure i'm embarrassed ,but what ever hah) it wasnt common schooling for me as it was for you dudesUnderstood. I just couldn't figure out your questions. Glad you made some sense of it in the meantime.

[ram29jackson]

Understood. I just couldn't figure out your questions. Glad you made some sense of it in the meantime.

the funny/interesting thing is. Hooking my video game console to the internet has taught me a few things i would have never stumbled across haha. I realize you can practically google anything to read about it but will take short cuts to ask on a forum so I get a quick answer as opposed to clicking pages for half an hour to figure it out .

[JBHuskers]

the funny/interesting thing is. Hooking my video game console to the internet has taught me a few things i would have never stumbled across haha. I realize you can practically google anything to read about it but will take short cuts to ask on a forum so I get a quick answer as opposed to clicking pages for half an hour to figure it out .

Don't feel so bad, everyone had to learn at some point or another.

[DariusLock]

I didn't have computers that much in school until Junior High...thank you MS. On the other hand I've always had one at home since I was six years old and have been messing with them. On top of that I just finished off a Junior College degree in a computer field. Plus I've always messed with graphics and websites, it's always been fun for me.

[JBHuskers]

It's good to finally have MLB.TV on the TV now instead of the computer.

[ram29jackson]

I can of course delete them when I want, but how much space do these games really take up?

[JBHuskers]

I can of course delete them when I want, but how much space do these games really take up?

Full Games like Infamous and Little Big Planet could be in the 5-10 GB area.

Super Stardust, Dead Nation, and Wipeout, no more than 2GB...I know Stardust is in the MB's

[ram29jackson]

forget Dead nation. The whole zombie thing is just bleehh :sick::down:

[ram29jackson]

Stardust looks like a 3 dimensional version of the old Asteroids haha

[ram29jackson]

ultimately haha ,I'm kind of curious how i can build up/add to my playstation home? haha

ya know..get rid of the bland furniture etc haha

[DariusLock]

Looks like I'm gonna get Wipeout HD + Fury and inFAMOUS. I dunno about playstation home...what do you guys do on there?

[Kingpin32]

Looks like I'm gonna get Wipeout HD + Fury and inFAMOUS. I dunno about playstation home...what do you guys do on there?

Walk around and dance I guess. The random times I've gone there it's been to play some of the games they have in Home.

[JBHuskers]

I hope there is at least an option to choose something for free in the store within 30 days for those who have all five titles. It would only make sense that if you're very loyal to Sony, there's a good chance you have all five titles.

[JBHuskers]

Looks like I'm gonna get Wipeout HD + Fury and inFAMOUS. I dunno about playstation home...what do you guys do on there?

I dunno, it's an overall disappointment for me.

[ram29jackson]

Walk around and dance I guess. The random times I've gone there it's been to play some of the games they have in Home.

HAHA can you get new furniture and stuff ?

[Kingpin32]

I hope there is at least an option to choose something for free in the store within 30 days for those who have all five titles. It would only make sense that if you're very loyal to Sony, there's a good chance you have all five titles.
I'm loyal to them and still don't have all five titles :D

[JBHuskers]

I'm loyal to them and still don't have all five titles :D

Yeah that's why I said VERY loyal :D :P

[Kingpin32]

Yeah that's why I said VERY loyal :D :P

They know where my heart is :D My heart just don't match my wallet lol

[I OU a Beatn]

I got all 5 of those the day they came out. I knew that was going to happen. :D

[JeffHCross]

So here's some interesting news. Sony brought PSN back up in North America, Australia, and Europe, but so far not Japan. Why? Japan's making them guarantee its security first (http://ingame.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/05/16/6654248-japan-says-not-so-fast-to-sony-playstation-network-).

[SmoothPancakes]

I definitely don't blame them. PS3 users here in the US were in such an uproar because they wanted to play their games. But how concerned about security were they? If I was a PS3 user, I would rather PSN stay down for 3 months than come up without making damn sure the new security measures are actually worth a damn. I hope Sony is very sure and confident in their new security measures, because I can only imagine the uprising, not only from PS3 users, but from security communities, if PSN gets hacked and taken down again a week or month or whenever from now.

[JBHuskers]

So here's some interesting news. Sony brought PSN back up in North America, Australia, and Europe, but so far not Japan. Why? Japan's making them guarantee its security first (http://ingame.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/05/16/6654248-japan-says-not-so-fast-to-sony-playstation-network-).

Cuz they're hardasses.

[JeffHCross]

I definitely don't blame them. PS3 users here in the US were in such an uproar because they wanted to play their games. But how concerned about security were they?Yeah, it was very clear early on that the "average" PSN user didn't understand the privacy or financial implications and just wanted their games.

My interest in that story stems more from the fact that I'm relatively sure that no one in America thought to stop SCEA from putting the network back online until their security is double checked. Yet Japan, the home country for the corporation, did. Very intriguing.

[SmoothPancakes]

Yeah, it was very clear early on that the "average" PSN user didn't understand the privacy or financial implications and just wanted their games.

My interest in that story stems more from the fact that I'm relatively sure that no one in America thought to stop SCEA from putting the network back online until their security is double checked. Yet Japan, the home country for the corporation, did. Very intriguing.

Yeah, I definitely don't remember anyone in Congress, elsewhere in government, or in any position of ability to do so, saying anything to SCEA or about them in general as to regarding how well their "new security" is and if it has been fully tested and checked and if it is now good enough to stand up to at least most, if not almost all attack attempts on it.

For SCEA's sake, I sure hope these new security measures are exactly all that they are being touted as. Because if they aren't, and hackers breaking in and take the system down again, there is going be a lot more hell to pay than just a bunch of pissed off gamers.

[JeffHCross]

For SCEA's sake, I sure hope these new security measures are exactly all that they are being touted as. Because if they aren't, and hackers breaking in and take the system down again, there is going be a lot more hell to pay than just a bunch of pissed off gamers.Yep. Bringing PSN back up was quite literally a no-win scenario for Sony. Sure, they got back in the good graces of the users (somewhat), but the hackers are likely to view it as a challenge. You know they want to take it down again. And if it goes down again, Sony will never recover -- especially if it's soon.

[souljahbill]

I hated the Infamous demo so I never got it. I'll take it if it's free.


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[Kwizzy]

Ok, need some help trying to decide which games I want. inFAMOUS is one but I can't decide on the 2nd: Wipeout or LittleBigPlanet? Thoughts?

[gschwendt]

Ok, need some help trying to decide which games I want. inFAMOUS is one but I can't decide on the 2nd: Wipeout or LittleBigPlanet? Thoughts?
To me, LBP is impressive in what it can do, but as a game, it didn't hold much for me. After playing the in-game "storyline", I didn't download very many created levels and didn't have enough patience to create my own level. I haven't played this Wipeout but I remember enjoying Wipeout on the original PS.

[skipwondah33]

just moving list to page for visibility

Sweet! That ends up working out great since I missed inFAMOUS at the deal Best Buy had that G posted up.

I'll get that and LBP as I already have Wipeout

[souljahbill]

Ok, need some help trying to decide which games I want. inFAMOUS is one but I can't decide on the 2nd: Wipeout or LittleBigPlanet? Thoughts?

I didn't like LittleBigPlanet (awful platforming) but I already have the other games so I'm getting that and InFamous.


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[skipwondah33]

So here's some interesting news. Sony brought PSN back up in North America, Australia, and Europe, but so far not Japan. Why? Japan's making them guarantee its security first (http://ingame.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/05/16/6654248-japan-says-not-so-fast-to-sony-playstation-network-).
Very interesting..

[Kwizzy]

To me, LBP is impressive in what it can do, but as a game, it didn't hold much for me. After playing the in-game "storyline", I didn't download very many created levels and didn't have enough patience to create my own level. I haven't played this Wipeout but I remember enjoying Wipeout on the original PS.

Thanks guys, this is almost exactly what I was thinking G. I liked Wipeout on PS & LBP doesn't seem like something I'd play much.

[DariusLock]

Only fun I had on LBP was with two of my friends, we would get drunk and play Ninja Warrior levels online. It was tons and tons of fun, but other than the Ninja warrior levels we didn't find much that was fun. Thankfully we just rented it.

[Kingpin32]

Wipeout is a racing game right? I remember it from the Playstation 1 days.

[ram29jackson]

so, when will the free stuff go into affect ? last I checked, store was down...?

30 days to decide is pretty long/ good

[I OU a Beatn]

Wipeout is a racing game right? I remember it from the Playstation 1 days.

Yes. I got it as part of Plus and absolutely hated it. :D

[CLW]

So.. I have none of these games which 2 should I pick up? I'm leaning towards Dead Nation and infamous

[I OU a Beatn]

So.. I have none of these games which 2 should I pick up? I'm leaning towards Dead Nation and infamous

Those are the best two, IMO.

[gschwendt]

PS Store to return May 24 (http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/34739/Sony_Tells_Dev_Partners_PlayStation_Store_To_Retur n_May_24.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+GamasutraNews+%28Gamasutra+Ne ws%29)

[DariusLock]

Woohoo, I've been itching for inFAMOUS.

[JBHuskers]

PS Store to return May 24 (http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/34739/Sony_Tells_Dev_Partners_PlayStation_Store_To_Retur n_May_24.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+GamasutraNews+%28Gamasutra+Ne ws%29)

:)) :))

[ram29jackson]

am I missing a detail here ? a couple questions-

now that online is back up for psn- each time i've turned on my game, I have had to sign into psn instead of it just still being connected. Is there a setting to automatically sign in that i'm missing ?


also, since I got a new ps3- this new one has no switch in the back to completely turn off or one. In the manual for the new one it says to unplug if not using the game for a long period. how long a period ? do you guys leave yours plugged in so you see the red light ,when not using it ? or do you unplug game when youre done using it for the night and plug it in the next day ? i've been unplugging mine


would I somehow harm mine by plugging and unplugging as I have been ? that might be a reeaaly dumb question, but who knows ? hah

[I OU a Beatn]

I just leave the red light on. I've never unplugged it.

[DariusLock]

Leave mine plugged in.

[ram29jackson]

I just leave the red light on. I've never unplugged it.


Leave mine plugged in.



how long have you owned your ps3's?

and about my question of not staying signed in to psn when i start up again- is that normal now or is there a setting I cant find ?

[Kingpin32]

how long have you owned your ps3's?

and about my question of not staying signed in to psn when i start up again- is that normal now or is there a setting I cant find ?
If you go to your account management on your PS3 and push :ps3tri: you can turn on auto login.

[I OU a Beatn]

how long have you owned your ps3's?

and about my question of not staying signed in to psn when i start up again- is that normal now or is there a setting I cant find ?

Current one - about 3 months.

[DariusLock]

This one a year or so now. My last one didn't break, my home was broken into and all the electronics (TV, Camera, PS3, etc) were taken except my XBOX 360 Elite was left plugged into the wall lol. Sold my elite a few days later and went and got a Samsung 52" Plasma PS3/Blu-Ray Movie Bundle deal from Best Buy where the PS3 was pretty much free.

I've had tremendous luck with consoles, none of mine have ever broken except when my nephew put pennies in the drive slot of my original Phat PS3.

[skipwondah33]

I do as well. I also have mine running on a 600W/1000VA UPS. In the past I had a few times where my power just shut off while I was playing for a while. As you know this isn't good for the PS3 to be shutdown that way.

Also after I finish playing for an extended period of time or in general I will exit of a particular game I'm playing, then move over to the friends list or any other menu on the XMB then let the system run for about 10 minutes until the fans quiet down. Shutting it off immediately after you finish playing I wouldn't imagine would be too wise because the system is at its hottest stage while gaming.

I also use compressed air to blow dust out every 2 weeks and while its not in use I cover it with a hand towel. Yeah I know I'm a bit extreme :D

[ram29jackson]

i use hand towel...

[DariusLock]

Mine sits in the open and I don't baby her at all. She has no scratches or anything and has only been transported three times (Home from the store and two moves.) I do need to get a can of air duster though...usually I use a toothpick which takes more time but it doesn't blow it INTO the system.

[gschwendt]

European Playstation Blog says PS Store not returning today
http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2011/05/24/playstation-network-maintenance-later-today/

The latest information I have on PlayStation Store is that we are aiming to have it live by the end of May. Contrary to popular rumours, it will not be reopening tomorrow but we will let you know here as soon as the date is confirmed.

[gschwendt]

US Blog says the same thing
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/05/24/playstation-network-scheduled-maintenance-today/

For those asking about the PlayStation Store, we’re still targeting restoration of all services by the end of this month. Contrary to reports, the Store will not be publishing today.

[JBHuskers]

US Blog says the same thing
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/05/24/playstation-network-scheduled-maintenance-today/

Guess that means I can at least get on MK online for free since I can't put in the Online Pass code yet....

[oweb26]

Well I was just about to ask about the PS store, guess I will wait until the end of the month. Dammit I actually the ps store I always stumble across something to buy.

[ram29jackson]

aaawww

[ram29jackson]

does anyone have or know anyone that has DSL extreme ? is it a good speed-connection for my PSN online football gaming fun ?

[CLW]

So out of curiosity what possible improvements could be in store for the PS4/720? I mean the PS3 already has blueray and 1080P capability as well as the ability to stream movies online.

[Kingpin32]

So out of curiosity what possible improvements could be in store for the PS4/720? I mean the PS3 already has blueray and 1080P capability as well as the ability to stream movies online.

Holographs.

[DariusLock]

I really have no idea, I can't really ask for much more? Maybe cross-fire two bad ass graphics cards in it?

[morsdraconis]

I really have no idea, I can't really ask for much more? Maybe cross-fire two bad ass graphics cards in it?

The graphics card in the PS3 is severely outdated (comparable to a Geforce 7600gt - which is about 5-6 generations behind where we are now) (same as the 360 - it's comparable to a Radeon x1800XT which is about 7-8 generations behind). Just putting one video card that's equivalent to a Geforce GTX 460 (~$200.00 to consumers) would be ginormous for video capability. Adding two of them which make them just as powerful as most high end gaming machines. Then they would just need to do a serious cooling setup (watercooled FTW) instead of some bullshit two fan system and you'd have a gaming console able to do what most computers can do (which is WAY better than what consoles do right now).

[souljahbill]

I don't think Microsoft and Sony want to get into another "arms" race. Everyone knows that $600 bomb Sony laid when the PS3 first came out severely hindered their momentum from launch. Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo all know now that $300 is the "sweet spot" for launch and if any company is going to get their console to that price, they can't go with the latest and greatest high-end tech.


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[DariusLock]

The graphics card in the PS3 is severely outdated (comparable to a Geforce 7600gt - which is about 5-6 generations behind where we are now) (same as the 360 - it's comparable to a Radeon x1800XT which is about 7-8 generations behind). Just putting one video card that's equivalent to a Geforce GTX 460 (~$200.00 to consumers) would be ginormous for video capability. Adding two of them which make them just as powerful as most high end gaming machines. Then they would just need to do a serious cooling setup (watercooled FTW) instead of some bullshit two fan system and you'd have a gaming console able to do what most computers can do (which is WAY better than what consoles do right now).

This is exactly what they need to do. I would go cross-fired graphics cards, water cooled, upgraded cpu, and more memory. Then that's basically all you need with a new console and just prefect everything else you already got.

[JeffHCross]

The graphics card in the PS3 is severely outdated (comparable to a Geforce 7600gtHow do you figure? The RSX was based on Nvidia 7800 series architecture. And I've seen a range of comparisons suggested for idea of equivalent PC video card. Certainly have to imagine it's better than a mid-range video card that was released months before the PS3 hit market.

Well, anyway, what the RSX compares to isn't really important. But your post suggests that if they just plug a couple new video cards into the PS3, voila we'll have a better machine. And you'd be right -- for the short term. The PS3 is nearly five years old, and when it was release it's graphics capabilities were better than what "most" consumers computers could do. Maybe not the enthusiast buying Maximum PC, but certainly your average video game. And even then, the biggest problem is taking advantage of the hardware they're given. There's a reason that PS3 and 360 games continue to improve graphically, even though the hardware hasn't changed since release in 2005-06. The engines and graphical code keep getting better. Console developers don't have DirectX, OpenGL or graphics middleware software to take advantage of.

And, in the long term, whatever graphical choice they choose is what we'll be stuck with for five, ten, whatever years. Computers will always be on the cutting edge, graphically, compared to PCs.


I would go cross-fired graphics cards, water cooledAnd trust your consumers to know how to care for a water-cooled system? No chance.

[morsdraconis]

How do you figure? The RSX was based on Nvidia 7800 series architecture. And I've seen a range of comparisons suggested for idea of equivalent PC video card. Certainly have to imagine it's better than a mid-range video card that was released months before the PS3 hit market.

Well, anyway, what the RSX compares to isn't really important. But your post suggests that if they just plug a couple new video cards into the PS3, voila we'll have a better machine. And you'd be right -- for the short term. The PS3 is nearly five years old, and when it was release it's graphics capabilities were better than what "most" consumers computers could do. Maybe not the enthusiast buying Maximum PC, but certainly your average video game. And even then, the biggest problem is taking advantage of the hardware they're given. There's a reason that PS3 and 360 games continue to improve graphically, even though the hardware hasn't changed since release in 2005-06. The engines and graphical code keep getting better. Console developers don't have DirectX, OpenGL or graphics middleware software to take advantage of.

And, in the long term, whatever graphical choice they choose is what we'll be stuck with for five, ten, whatever years. Computers will always be on the cutting edge, graphically, compared to PCs.

Oh, it's most definitely gonna always be behind the curve. But, still, they need to look toward the future to make the thing actually last (and be worthwhile) for more than 3-4 years.

The problem with the PS3 is the inability to use Microsoft's exclusive video rendering platform (DirectX). It's what 95% of the 360 and PC games are written in with the occasional game developer maximizing their game's potential with OpenGL (mainly Id Software as they were the pioneers for really pushing OpenGL to the limits with Quake and such).

The PS3 does in fact use OpenGL, but, the major issue is, it's a VERY old version of OpenGL (basically version 1.0 with some modified libraries that's very close to being 2.0 but significantly further away from 3.0 or 4.1 - granted, those were released after the PS3 was created and so forth). Where as, the 360 is using an advanced version of Direct X 9 which makes programming for it ridiculously easy compared to programming/porting to a platform that is sadly rarely used anymore outside of the PS3.

So, in the end, Sony is fighting a losing battle when it comes to trying to compete with basically a stripped down PC in a box. The ease of programming for the 360 is so ridiculous compared to the PS3, it's a wonder if more and more companies aren't just saying screw it and sticking with programming just for the PC and 360 and forgetting about the PS3 altogether.

[morsdraconis]

And trust your consumers to know how to care for a water-cooled system? No chance.

Yeah, unfortunately, a water-cooled system is far too difficult to clean and maintain for your average moron.

[JeffHCross]

Oh, it's most definitely gonna always be behind the curve. But, still, they need to look toward the future to make the thing actually last (and be worthwhile) for more than 3-4 years.Eh ... looking "toward the future" is what got them in trouble with the PS3. I agree that there are some aspects (512 MB RAM) of the PS3 that were incredibly shortsighted. But they used a custom graphical framework that was, as far as I knew at the time, better than anything else currently on the market. You can't jump too far into the future. The PC graphics market, especially with GPU computing, has jumped so far in the last five years that no matter what Sony did they were going to be behind.

If you've seen something I haven't, then I'll take your word for it ... but my understanding was that neither console had the ability to use OpenGL or DirectX.

OpenGL on the PS3 is based on OpenGL|ES (OpenGL for Embedded Systems) rather than classic desktop OpenGLHuh ... didn't know that. That's more capability than I thought they had, but that's still a far cry from actual OpenGL. I certainly didn't know that the 360 could use DirectX. Maybe the limitations I was aware of only existed for the PS2/Xbox and earlier generations, but doesn't apply anymore.

You are right about programming for the PS3 versus 360. I thought that was only going to bite them early, but it has clearly continued to be an influence for developers.


Yeah, unfortunately, a water-cooled system is far too difficult to clean and maintain for your average moron.To be fair, I've built PCs and I'm not willing to try a water-cooled system. Cleaning and maintaining practically anything is too difficult for your average moron, let alone something like a water-cooled system.

Though you might be able to make a handy side job out of cleaning water-cooled PS4s. Kinda like all the house-cleaning services.

[DariusLock]

Ok better CPU, Cross-Fired Graphics Cards, Memory, and better fans?! Happy now Jeff lol.

[DariusLock]

So, in the end, Sony is fighting a losing battle when it comes to trying to compete with basically a stripped down PC in a box. The ease of programming for the 360 is so ridiculous compared to the PS3, it's a wonder if more and more companies aren't just saying screw it and sticking with programming just for the PC and 360 and forgetting about the PS3 altogether.

As long as millions of people are buying PS3's people will develop games for it. That's too huge of a market just to be like, "It's too hard...".

[JeffHCross]

Ok better CPU, Cross-Fired Graphics Cards, Memory, and better fans?! Happy now Jeff lol.Hahaha. Trust me man, I'd love to see something sophisticated like a water-cooled system. I think we're going to eventually reach a point where fans aren't good enough for cooling our components (which may be why RROD is so common). But it's gotta be something that doesn't require maintenance either.


As long as millions of people are buying PS3's people will develop games for it. That's too huge of a market just to be like, "It's too hard...".Eh, you're right ... but so is he. There are a lot of titles that are only developed for the 360, or developed for the PC/360, and never ported to the PS3 because of the difficulty. Maybe not the AAA titles, but there are certainly some.

[fsuprime]

and even when it is ps3 and 360 it seems like many times the 360 gets the better version, like when ncaa football was only like 30 FPS a few iterations ago for ps3 but 60 for 360...

[JeffHCross]

That was the first year on PS3 and the second year on 360. That kind of stuff is understandable early in the cycle.

[fsuprime]

it seems to still happen though at least in minor detail...did last years xbox360 version of ncaa glitch out in certain stadiums on the 5 yard line if you were on offense? etc...also Iou says the games are smoother on xbox overall.

[morsdraconis]

I can personally attest to the fact that, because on the PS3 you have to load pretty much everything from the disc instead of being able to rip the entire disc onto the HD, games on the PS3 are slower because of load times, frame skips, etc because it has to constantly load the information from the disc and then funnel it to the HD and then to the processor than to the video card whereas, with the 360 and you ripping the entire game from the disc to the HD so that it hits the disc MUCH less frequently, it subsequently makes the games run smoother when you hit the invisible wall where it needs to load more information into memory.

[steelerfan]

it seems to still happen though at least in minor detail...did last years xbox360 version of ncaa glitch out in certain stadiums on the 5 yard line if you were on offense? etc...also Iou says the games are smoother on xbox overall.

FWIW, on my 2nd trip to EA this year (April), I was the only one playing a ps3 version of 12 (no ps3 version was available on my other trips). Several (probably 4 or 5) of the other CD guys commented how much crisper and more vibrant the ps3 version looked. Now, I understand there could be 101 reasons for this, but I mention it just to point out that the ps3 version of NCAA is definitely on par with the 360. Both versions look fantastic.

[fsuprime]

sounds good to me, for the longest time the regular xbox version was crap compared to the ps2 version, but then somewhere around 2005 or so I noticed on my friends xbox's that madden and ncaa looked better as the dev's got use to the new tech...(i assume) maybe they are finally getting used to the advanced and different tech of the ps3 :)

[JeffHCross]

I will agree with mors that the ability to install the entire game to HDD makes a very big difference between 360 and PS3 versions, and our experience playing them. I really wish Sony would patch in the ability to install games to the HDD. I realize there's a whole piracy issue there, but it would really cut down on the wear and tear of our discs.

[I OU a Beatn]

I've always thought the NCAA versions looked the same, but so far, the 360 version has been much smoother to play. Of course, I find that to be the case with most 360/PS3 games. It's not something to ruin the particular version, though.

[gschwendt]

PS Store to return "this week" (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/05/30/full-psn-services-including-playstation-store-return-this-week/).

[skipwondah33]

I will agree with mors that the ability to install the entire game to HDD makes a very big difference between 360 and PS3 versions, and our experience playing them. I really wish Sony would patch in the ability to install games to the HDD. I realize there's a whole piracy issue there, but it would really cut down on the wear and tear of our discs.
Wouldn't that put more strain on the HDD itself though? And thus creating more heat?

On a semi-related note I had plans of installing a solid-state drive but never got around to it since my son was born.

[JBHuskers]

PSN to be fully restored by Friday. (http://ps3.ign.com/articles/117/1171522p1.html)

[JBHuskers]

By Friday probably means Friday afternoon :D but I hope it's sooner.

[fsuprime]

Wouldn't that put more strain on the HDD itself though? And thus creating more heat?

On a semi-related note I had plans of installing a solid-state drive but never got around to it since my son was born.

and SSD into the PS3? I would only do that if they allowed us to save games to the hard drive...I do love my SSD for the OS and games I play on my PC though

[souljahbill]

and SSD into the PS3? I would only do that if they allowed us to save games to the hard drive...I do love my SSD for the OS and games I play on my PC though

You didn't know you could switch out hard drives on a PS3? I thought about getting an SSD myself but the cost to gb ratio is still too much for my blood.


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[JBHuskers]

Yeah I have a 320 GB SATA in my PS3, I'm thinking of upgrading to a bigger hard drive down the road.

[skipwondah33]

You didn't know you could switch out hard drives on a PS3? I thought about getting an SSD myself but the cost to gb ratio is still too much for my blood.
The main reason that i didn't since cutting back on my hobby costs. Although I've only used about a quarter of my 60 GB hard drive now..if that.

[JBHuskers]

Looks like the 1TB is more readily available since last time I looked for 2.5" SATA's (http://cgi.ebay.com/New-1TB-1000GB-5400RPM-SATA-2-5inch-12-5mm-Hard-Drive-/170614609363?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27b96c55d3)

[CLW]

By Friday probably means Friday afternoon :D but I hope it's sooner.

I presume Sony is going to tell us how to get our free PS+ upgrade and 2 free games at some point this week?

[morsdraconis]

Looks like the 1TB is more readily available since last time I looked for 2.5" SATA's (http://cgi.ebay.com/New-1TB-1000GB-5400RPM-SATA-2-5inch-12-5mm-Hard-Drive-/170614609363?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27b96c55d3)

This one's better. (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136490)

[JBHuskers]

This one's better. (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136490)

That's a 3.5" SATA not a 2.5"

[morsdraconis]

That's a 3.5" SATA not a 2.5"

Is it for a laptop? If not, you're just paying more money for nothing...

[JBHuskers]

Is it for a laptop? If not, you're just paying more money for nothing...

No, it's for the PS3.

[morsdraconis]

No, it's for the PS3.

Ah, gotcha. Didn't know that 3.5" ones wouldn't work with the PS3. That kinda sucks.

[JBHuskers]

Ah, gotcha. Didn't know that 3.5" ones wouldn't work with the PS3. That kinda sucks.

Yep only 2.5" SATA fit.

[skipwondah33]

Yeah that is the size for laptops. 3.5 fit desktops.

On a side note how in the world do you fill a terabyte lol?

[JBHuskers]

Yeah that is the size for laptops. 3.5 fit desktops.

On a side note how in the world do you fill a terabyte lol?

Good question LOL but I'd never have to upgrade it again :D I might just got 640GB if I ever come close to filling the 320GB...I get a lot of PSN games.

[SmoothPancakes]

Yeah that is the size for laptops. 3.5 fit desktops.

On a side note how in the world do you fill a terabyte lol?

Music. :D

For my laptop, I have 83.4 GB left out of 221 GB internally. Then I have an external drive that I was given for a Christmas two years ago. 103 GB currently free out of 465 GB. Then a 2 TB external drive that I bought last winter. After all the various stuff getting it set up, it officially is 1.81 TB, of which I currently have 1.41 TB free, and slowly going down by the day.

Currently, according to my stats, I have 26,644 songs sitting in my 465 GB drive. As well, I currently have 30 different PC games installed on the 2 TB drive.

[fsuprime]

You didn't know you could switch out hard drives on a PS3? I thought about getting an SSD myself but the cost to gb ratio is still too much for my blood.


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I knew you could, what I am saying is that what is the point if you can't save your whole game disc to the HDD (SSD)? Waste of money without that feature.

[I OU a Beatn]

I'm nearing 100 hundred PSN titles, but I don't keep them all downloaded at once. I beat them and I delete them unless I think that it will be getting DLC that I'm interested in(Dead Nation). I still have my little 160GB.

[fsuprime]

I mean putting a game like ncaa 12 on your hDD IOU

[I OU a Beatn]

I know what you mean and I totally agree that you should be able to. I don't see one good reason why they wont implement it, but I sincerely doubt they ever do.

[JeffHCross]

Wouldn't that put more strain on the HDD itself though? And thus creating more heat?Hard drive stress is primarily a problem because of the mechanics involved. But games don't use enough that I think that would be much of a concern. Heat's not usually a problem with hard drive access. Graphics cards and processors are the main heat sources in a machine.


I mean putting a game like ncaa 12 on your hDD IOUHis point is that through PSN and the Store, you can rack up a sizable amount of stuff on your PS3 pretty quickly. I've almost run out of room twice, thanks to HD videos, PSN downloads and games that put a decent sized chunk of game data installed. DC Universe Online would put me over the limit again, probably.

[fsuprime]

ahh, yea i can see that, I use a smallish SSD for my main HD on the PC and to keep space free on it I uninstall games I do not play and just keep the saved games saved...I love steam, I try to register every game I have with them and now I mostly only purchase through them.

[I OU a Beatn]

A developer accidentally let slip that their game is releasing on the store June 3, so I guess the people who said Friday afternoon as a joke are going to get it right. :D

[I OU a Beatn]

Sony.net just released a statement(via a .pdf file - WTF?) that basically said most of the world will get the full restoration of PSN on June 2, which I guess is technically today. You mean I can download all the shit I've already paid for and couldn't use for the past month? AWESOME.

[I OU a Beatn]

...and it's back...and UPDATED!

[Nothingface]

I miss my PS3. I have a pretty good blu ray movie collection going.

[cdj]

I'm able to get into the store, but get Error Code 80023103 on everything I try to download. :fp:

[I OU a Beatn]

Just keep trying. It may take 4 or 5 tries but eventually it'll start downloading.

[JBHuskers]

OMG! :bp: