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Kingpin32
04-29-2011, 05:52 PM
Batman always gets the criminal. No matter what.

ram29jackson
04-29-2011, 06:33 PM
"Yeah but the Chinese won't extradite one of their own" but Batman doesn't have a jurisdiction


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yl3UMO-TkE
sorry, cant help it : )

HuskerBlitz
04-29-2011, 06:47 PM
I think they need to catch before worrying about who gets to put them on trial. ;)

skipwondah33
04-29-2011, 08:56 PM
ummmm .... All they want is 100k? Who is the hacker dr. Evil?

rofl :d :d :d

JeffHCross
04-29-2011, 10:28 PM
rofl :d :d :dEmoticon fail.

JBHuskers
04-29-2011, 10:30 PM
Yeah I got the typical generic response from Sony. Copied and pasted from the last message they sent out.

CLW
04-30-2011, 05:52 AM
Superman has also renounced his U.S. citizenship so if he were to use some enhanced interrogation techniques our Government couldn't get in trouble.

http://newsok.com/superman-may-forsake-american-citizenship/article/3563431

psuexv
04-30-2011, 09:06 AM
Emoticon fail.

They show up fine in Tapatalk

ram29jackson
04-30-2011, 01:45 PM
got a psn add email this morning

skipwondah33
04-30-2011, 01:53 PM
Emoticon fail.

Actually I had the right one in there ":", "D". When I went to post it the board changed it to that. Then when I went to edit the post to change it back the "save" button in the edited post with the status symbol just kept rotating and rotating but never edited my post. After several minutes of waiting I just said F' it.

I've been getting that alot lately where when I edit a post it will just sit there and do that

skipwondah33
04-30-2011, 01:55 PM
nvm

Read through the forum feedback just now and used your way of editing it

JeffHCross
04-30-2011, 02:50 PM
When I went to post it the board changed it to that.Yeah, it's because you had all caps in the original post. There's like a certain limit to the number of CAPS you can have in a post, with no lower-case, before it changes it automatically for you.

I OU a Beatn
05-01-2011, 12:32 AM
Service will be restored this week. All members get one month of Playstation Plus, one free undetermined download, one month of Qriocity, and more to be announced later.

JeffHCross
05-01-2011, 12:55 AM
They seriously, seriously better do something regarding identity protection or they're going to take a massive hit on the PR front.

JeffHCross
05-01-2011, 04:53 PM
This just gets worse and worse for Sony (from a PR standpoint).

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2011/05/sony-apologizes-says-10-million-credit-card-accounts-may-have-been-exposed-in-network-attack.html


Sony has revealed that 10 million credit card accounts may have been exposed two weeks ago when a hacker broke into the company's computers in San Diego and stole data from 77 million PlayStation Network accounts.

During a news conference in Tokyo on Saturday, Kaz Hirai, Sony's executive deputy president, offered the company's first public apology by an executive and promised to compensate customers.

"We offer our sincerest apologies," Hirai said, then bowed deeply in a Japanese custom showing regret, at the news conference, a recording of which can be viewed here.

Hirai said Sony would give affected customers 30 days of free access to its Qriocity music-streaming service as well as 30 days of access to its PlayStation Plus online game service. In addition, Sony said it will provide credit card protection services for the 10 million customers whose data were compromised.

JBHuskers
05-01-2011, 08:25 PM
Turned on my PS3 for the first time in a while. Got some rounds of Tiger in.

I OU a Beatn
05-01-2011, 08:33 PM
I've been playing mine a lot. This downtime has given me motivation to play through the 50+ PSN and retail games that I haven't even touched yet. I've gotten through 3 of them. Go me. :D

CLW
05-01-2011, 09:00 PM
I've spent my time with MLB The Show and Tiger but mostly The Show. Also got some NCAA 11 trophies except the Perfect From The Start for the Platinum. That trophy is going to be the end of me :smh:

ram29jackson
05-01-2011, 09:52 PM
are you saying psn is back up ?

I OU a Beatn
05-01-2011, 10:19 PM
No, it wont be back up until Monday or Tuesday more than likely.

JBHuskers
05-02-2011, 09:15 AM
Add Sony Online Entertainment to the hacked list. (http://www.gamefocus.ca/?nav=new&nid=13892)

Marlowe
05-02-2011, 09:42 AM
Yea went online to check the DCUO forums and read the notice. To quote Jules Winfield: "This is some f#cked up, repugnant sh#t!"

I'm considering jumping ship. This is getting ridiculous.

I OU a Beatn
05-02-2011, 10:35 AM
Supposedly the Japanese PSN is already back up and the US/EU gets it back tomorrow.

JBHuskers
05-02-2011, 10:39 AM
#1 thing to do, change password :D

JBHuskers
05-02-2011, 12:43 PM
#1 thing to do, change password :D

Looks like Sony will FORCE you to change the password.

JBHuskers
05-02-2011, 02:35 PM
From Joystiq: (http://www.joystiq.com/2011/05/02/sony-no-truth-to-story-of-credit-card-information-sale/)


During the marathon late-night press conference this weekend, Sony cleared up plans for the reactivation of PSN and the nature of the attack that led to its being taken down. What it didn't clear up was the status of users' credit cards.

Responding to rumors that credit card numbers were offered for sale on forums -- and even presented to Sony in an attempt to get the company to buy it back -- SCEA PR director Patrick Seybold said that "to my knowledge there is no truth to this report of a list, or that Sony was offered an opportunity to purchase the list." It's not quite a categorical denial of credit card information being leaked -- but at least it's confirmation that nobody's trying to extort Sony with it.

Seybold reiterated what Kaz Hirai said Sunday morning: that nobody from Sony will contact you seeking any ID. Should someone do so, they are up to something nefarious.

CLW
05-02-2011, 08:08 PM
So... any clue when/if PSN will be back up tomorrow?

I OU a Beatn
05-02-2011, 08:41 PM
The last I heard it goes up for everyone else tomorrow at some point. However, I haven't seen Sony come out and out right say that. They said within a week last Wednesday, though, so I would assume so.

JBHuskers
05-02-2011, 09:38 PM
Probably around the same time the usual PSN update goes up? Round 5 or 6 central?

JeffHCross
05-02-2011, 09:48 PM
Supposedly the Japanese PSN is already back up and the US/EU gets it back tomorrow.That might explain what I was seeing this morning. I was seeing news reports that the PSN was up, though the Store won't be back for a little longer. Fast forward to when I finally come home tonight, and PSN is still down and all of those news articles have disappeared.

skipwondah33
05-02-2011, 10:43 PM
I figured the store would be the last to be up and for right now just basic online functionality.

I OU a Beatn
05-02-2011, 11:13 PM
Probably around the same time the usual PSN update goes up? Round 5 or 6 central?

I doubt it. I'm hoping/assuming it'll be up sometime in the morning. I don't see why they would wait til evening when the store is usually updated just to bring it back online. Of course, it's Sony, so who knows.

jaymo76
05-03-2011, 12:22 AM
It will be interesting to see what type of hit paid services on the PSN network will take following resumption of services. I have no interest in seeing any of my credit info go towards the service... paid point cards only.

JBHuskers
05-03-2011, 12:29 AM
I doubt it. I'm hoping/assuming it'll be up sometime in the morning. I don't see why they would wait til evening when the store is usually updated just to bring it back online. Of course, it's Sony, so who knows.

If it is just online gaming capability tomorrow, I could see first thing in the morning.

JBHuskers
05-03-2011, 01:14 AM
One thing that IGN brought up is the fact that those who don't have PS+ and are getting a month free....what happens when that month is up? Currently you lose what you got from PS+....due to this catastrophe, are they going to change that stance, and allow you to own it for life?

souljahbill
05-03-2011, 07:03 AM
One thing that IGN brought up is the fact that those who don't have PS+ and are getting a month free....what happens when that month is up? Currently you lose what you got from PS+....due to this catastrophe, are they going to change that stance, and allow you to own it for life?

Doubt it. It's probably more about giving them access to discounts and having it serve as a trial to get people to join the service.

psusnoop
05-03-2011, 07:52 AM
One thing that IGN brought up is the fact that those who don't have PS+ and are getting a month free....what happens when that month is up? Currently you lose what you got from PS+....due to this catastrophe, are they going to change that stance, and allow you to own it for life?

I was wondering this as well JB, I mean I'm not a member but will probably download some stuff for sure. It would be cool if you could keep it for life so to speak, but this would really surprise me big time if they did this. Great question though. This is your task today, find us an answer on that question.

JBHuskers
05-03-2011, 08:50 AM
I was wondering this as well JB, I mean I'm not a member but will probably download some stuff for sure. It would be cool if you could keep it for life so to speak, but this would really surprise me big time if they did this. Great question though. This is your task today, find us an answer on that question.

Hell if IGN can't get that answer, I sure as hell ain't gonna :D

gschwendt
05-03-2011, 08:57 AM
I can give you the answer right now... you're not going to be able to keep anything that was free once PSN+ runs out.

souljahbill
05-03-2011, 09:03 AM
I can give you the answer right now... you're not going to be able to keep anything that was free once PSN+ runs out.

Yeah, there's a difference between a free download and a PS+ "free" download. Anything bought on the cheap stays but any "free" game received via PS+ will be unplayable after the month is up.

JBHuskers
05-03-2011, 10:21 AM
I can give you the answer right now... you're not going to be able to keep anything that was free once PSN+ runs out.

Yep, they're losing money on this deal...so this is Sony's way to fake goodwill, and drive more sales of PS+, kinda lame IMO.

JBHuskers
05-03-2011, 02:23 PM
Sony has told GamesIndustry.biz that 900 of the 12,700 credit/debit cards stolen were still active; the rest were expired. It's fortunate that the database was an older one so the majority of cards are now outdated. Still, that's 900 people who are at risk and many more wondering if they are among those 900.

CLW
05-03-2011, 03:47 PM
WTF PSN still isn't up and running and I saw an article today that said it might not be back up until Friday?

morsdraconis
05-03-2011, 03:57 PM
I'm SO glad I got rid of that shit when I did. I'd be SUPER pissed right now if I hadn't.

UGA14
05-03-2011, 08:35 PM
I've gotten like 2 debt collection agencies calling me since all of this happened.

One of which is trying to collect on toll roads in Dallas, Texas and calls me a liar when I tell them I'm not that person and have never even been to Dallas. Laugh. I hope they call me some more so I can bitch them out and hit them for harassment.

ram29jackson
05-04-2011, 12:55 AM
:(:mad::down:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zANvYB93u2g

CLW
05-04-2011, 01:38 PM
These hackers must DIE! That is all.

steelerfan
05-04-2011, 01:54 PM
I'm SO glad I got rid of that shit when I did. I'd be SUPER pissed right now if I hadn't.

Meh, it's only affecting my OD, the TGA, and NHL GameCenter for me. Not a big deal, really. Getting "SUPER pissed" is not part of my makeup when it comes to gaming. There are bigger tragedies in life.

psusnoop
05-04-2011, 01:57 PM
It hasn't really bothered me that much, I'm looking forward to the return so I can battle NCAA 11 and TGA but I'm having fun building up my golfer and also getting games in with NHL too.

Marlowe
05-04-2011, 02:40 PM
http://m.zdnet.com/blog/btl/sony-reveals-anonymous-file-was-found-on-entertainment-servers/48240

So the plot thickens....

I OU a Beatn
05-04-2011, 02:44 PM
This is getting to be fucking stupid. I was going to buy Motorstorm: Apocalypse today, but nope.

psuexv
05-04-2011, 02:44 PM
Maybe they should give us all credit towards Xboxes.

JBHuskers
05-04-2011, 04:23 PM
This is getting to be fucking stupid. I was going to buy Motorstorm: Apocalypse today, but nope.

I saw someone on Twitter say their title update for this game downloaded and installed...guess that goes around PSN?

I OU a Beatn
05-04-2011, 04:46 PM
Yeah, I'm downloading the update right now for KZ3. I'm not sure whether or not I was able to do that before, but it is downloading. Still can't sign on, so meh.

steelerfan
05-04-2011, 04:50 PM
I saw someone on Twitter say their title update for this game downloaded and installed...guess that goes around PSN?

I saw someone on OS say they got the update for The Show last week.

UGA14
05-04-2011, 04:57 PM
Yeah apparently title updates have nothing to do with PSN as I was able to update The Show way back when the update dropped and PSN was in no sight of coming alive.

steelerfan
05-04-2011, 05:05 PM
I really can't believe how upset people are by this. It's like a bunch of 2-year-olds having a tantrum when you take their toy away. People need to grow up.


http://www.moonbattery.com/tantrum.gif


It's ok to be upset that your CC and personal information may have been stolen. It's ok to expect fair compensation for money or services that have been lost. But for adults to be throwing a fit that they can't play is fucking lame. It's also repulsive to hear how impatient people are. I, for one, don't want the PSN back until it is ready. I can wait.

I OU a Beatn
05-04-2011, 05:15 PM
It's the principle of it. I paid $300(for the 4th time) for a system that clearly says on the box "free access to the Playstation Network." I have not had that access for two weeks now. I can live with that. I have both systems and as you said, it's just a game. HOWEVER, it's the bullshit runaround that is what is pissing everyone off - myself included. When you say "within a week," it had better happen within that 7 days. It has not. It surpassed that 7 days yesterday and Sony doesn't say a single word about it.

SOCOM 4 just released. Portal 2 just released. Mortal Kombat just released. Motorstorm Apocalypse just released. Brink is releasing in a week. L.A. Noire the week after that. People simply want to know a DATE as to when it's going to be back up.

I'm personally pissed off because I got a team together for the $40,000 KZ3 tournament and haven't gotten a single practice session in because Sony is too busy running around with their hands up their asses. Like I said, it's the principle of paying this much for a system and games(and in my case, the yearly service fee for Plus) and then being completely left in the dark.

ram29jackson
05-04-2011, 05:38 PM
I really can't believe how upset people are by this. It's like a bunch of 2-year-olds having a tantrum when you take their toy away. People need to grow up.


http://www.moonbattery.com/tantrum.gif


It's ok to be upset that your CC and personal information may have been stolen. It's ok to expect fair compensation for money or services that have been lost. But for adults to be throwing a fit that they can't play is fucking lame. It's also repulsive to hear how impatient people are. I, for one, don't want the PSN back until it is ready. I can wait.



yeah, like that comedian who pointed out you can get to New York in 6 hours where it once took months and people complain about a 45 minute delay or no cell service on the plane..? :fp:

ram29jackson
05-04-2011, 05:46 PM
It's the principle of it. I paid $300(for the 4th time) for a system that clearly says on the box "free access to the Playstation Network." I have not had that access for two weeks now. I can live with that. I have both systems and as you said, it's just a game. HOWEVER, it's the bullshit runaround that is what is pissing everyone off - myself included. When you say "within a week," it had better happen within that 7 days. It has not. It surpassed that 7 days yesterday and Sony doesn't say a single word about it.



SOCOM 4 just released. Portal 2 just released. Mortal Kombat just released. Motorstorm Apocalypse just released. Brink is releasing in a week. L.A. Noire the week after that. People simply want to know a DATE as to when it's going to be back up.

I'm personally pissed off because I got a team together for the $40,000 KZ3 tournament and haven't gotten a single practice session in because Sony is too busy running around with their hands up their asses. Like I said, it's the principle of paying this much for a system and games(and in my case, the yearly service fee for Plus) and then being completely left in the dark.

youre on a 4th ps3 already ?

ram29jackson
05-04-2011, 05:51 PM
impatient people- heres the video


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r1CZTLk-Gk

I OU a Beatn
05-04-2011, 05:51 PM
Yup. All 3 due to a faulty bluray drive. This most recent one is holding up nicely, though.

souljahbill
05-04-2011, 06:06 PM
Yup. All 3 due to a faulty bluray drive. This most recent one is holding up nicely, though.

Explain this faulty blu-ray drive thing. Right now, mine is freezing a lot on me in the middle of my games. Is the writing on the wall because I really don't want to be buying a new PS3 right now.

I OU a Beatn
05-04-2011, 06:45 PM
Only one of mine ever froze before they broke. It froze in the middle of the game, I booted it back up, and the spinning circle just kept spinning. It wouldn't list the game on the XMB because it wasn't reading the disc. The other two just died somehow. I turned it on and it would do the same thing, but those 2 never froze.

souljahbill
05-04-2011, 07:01 PM
Only one of mine ever froze before they broke. It froze in the middle of the game, I booted it back up, and the spinning circle just kept spinning. It wouldn't list the game on the XMB because it wasn't reading the disc. The other two just died somehow. I turned it on and it would do the same thing, but those 2 never froze.

I can get the disc to load but it eventually freezes and says I have a disc reading error. I think mine is going out but I'm holding out hope.

I OU a Beatn
05-04-2011, 07:36 PM
If it happens on multiple games, then that's more than likely the issue. I never got a disc read error, it just stopped showing up on the XMB meaning it wasn't able to read it. It's covered under the warranty assuming it breaks within a year of purchasing it. Unfortunately for me, all 3 of mine broke out of warranty.

souljahbill
05-04-2011, 07:44 PM
I can get the disc to load but it eventually freezes and says I have a disc reading error. I think mine is going out but I'm holding out hope.


If it happens on multiple games, then that's more than likely the issue. I never got a disc read error, it just stopped showing up on the XMB meaning it wasn't able to read it. It's covered under the warranty assuming it breaks within a year of purchasing it. Unfortunately for me, all 3 of mine broke out of warranty.:down::mad::bang:

steelerfan
05-04-2011, 09:42 PM
There are fixes out there for disc repairs, though all I've ever done is fix YLODs so I don't know if they work. I'm not sure if Gilksey (playstationlifestyles) has a fix, but if he does, I can guarantee it works.

JeffHCross
05-04-2011, 10:30 PM
soulja, when you put in a new disc do you see the "loading" icon in the top corner and it just doesn't go away? And the icon never pops onto the Game or DVD menus? If that's the case, it's your drive.

souljahbill
05-05-2011, 01:00 PM
soulja, when you put in a new disc do you see the "loading" icon in the top corner and it just doesn't go away? And the icon never pops onto the Game or DVD menus? If that's the case, it's your drive.

The games load like nothing's wrong. It's only a matter of time before it freezes and I have to eject the disc and go back to the XMB menu (hitting the home button does nothing). It says disc read error when I eject the disc. When I watched Scott Pilgrim vs. The World the other night, the DVD played fine with no problems or issues.

steelerfan
05-05-2011, 01:10 PM
This may help you, Bill. I didn't read the whole thread. Working on ps3s is really simple.

http://playstationlifestyle.net:80/forums/showthread.php?p=28129#post28129

souljahbill
05-05-2011, 01:17 PM
This may help you, Bill. I didn't read the whole thread. Working on ps3s is really simple.

http://playstationlifestyle.net:80/forums/showthread.php?p=28129#post28129

That's the problem. Unfortunately, I fix people, not electronics. Guess I'm going to use the TGT Amazon link and get another PS3. *sigh* Thanks, everybody.

ram29jackson
05-05-2011, 02:56 PM
That's the problem. Unfortunately, I fix people, not electronics. Guess I'm going to use the TGT Amazon link and get another PS3. *sigh* Thanks, everybody.

Dont give up on finding a local repair guy to do it. I got a new one but still intend to have my old one fixed

CLW
05-05-2011, 04:03 PM
WTF is PSN still down or did the hackers also fry my PS3?

JBHuskers
05-05-2011, 04:03 PM
Yeah haven't heard otherwise as to the PSN being back up...

I OU a Beatn
05-05-2011, 05:59 PM
It's beyond comprehension how a major company could keep their network that holds 77 million accounts offline for going on 3 weeks. Just unbelievable.

souljahbill
05-05-2011, 06:05 PM
I'll wait 3 months if it means it'll be a lot more secure when it comes back.

I OU a Beatn
05-05-2011, 06:47 PM
At this rate, you might be doing that.

ram29jackson
05-05-2011, 07:00 PM
It's beyond comprehension how a major company could keep their network that holds 77 million accounts offline for going on 3 weeks. Just unbelievable.


I'll wait 3 months if it means it'll be a lot more secure when it comes back.


At this rate, you might be doing that.



That says alot about being highly computerized and yet dont know how to function it.
and quite frankly, as much as college kids may understand computers a little better then most. The education level and quality there of is somewhat lacking. O f course thats American kids haha, If the problem is in Japan....I dont know haha

of course there are other customer service factors etc., but this is still a factor.

but this isnt car repair or poison food, its just a gaming entertainment company... I really dont know if that should matter....

cdj
05-05-2011, 07:36 PM
From PlayStation University (http://www.psuni.com/sony-entering-final-stages-of-internal-testing-for-new-psn-service-8178/):


Sony’s corporate communications & social media director Patrick Seybold has given anxious PlayStation 3 users an update about the return of the PlayStation Network service stating that the company is entering “final stages of internal testing of the new system” and that this is a major step forward in bringing back the PSN and Qriocity services.

“We’ve been working around the clock to rebuild the network and enhance protections of your personal data,” wrote Seybold via the Official PS Blog. “It’s our top priority to ensure your data is safe when you begin using the services again.”

“We understand that many of you are eager to again enjoy the PlayStation Network and Qriocity entertainment services that you love, so we wanted you to be aware of this milestone and our progress.”

“We will provide additional updates as soon as we can.”

SCEE’s head of communications Nick Caplin confirmed earlier this week that Sony plans to have the service back up before the weekend. The updated service will include new security protocols to ensure safety against future hacks. In addition, Sony will be rolling out a “Welcome Back” package to PS3 users featuring perks such as a free 30 day subscription of PlayStation Plus and one free unspecified PlayStation Store game download. Stay tuned for more information.

cdj
05-05-2011, 08:41 PM
It sounds like Sony didn't have the greatest experts in charge of security for PSN:


The House of Representatives Energy & Commerce Subcommittee on Commerce, Manufacturing and Trade continues to seek answers regarding last month's breach of the PlayStation Network's security. The one it got yesterday from Purdue professor and security expert Dr. Gene Spafford is troubling, to say the least, if the situation he detailed actually played out as described.

Spafford told the subcommittee that, according to security mailing lists he subscribes to, "individuals who work in security and participate in the Sony network" had learned "several months ago" that PSN was hosted on servers running "very old versions of Apache software that were unpatched and had no firewall installed."

The professor continued, "they had reported these [issues] in an open forum that was monitored by Sony employees, but had seen no response and no change or update to the software." The timeframe for these events was "two to three months prior to the incident where the break-ins occurred," according to Spafford.

It's important to note that his account of the situation and information is second-hand. Still, the potential for this testimony to cause the subcommittee, headed by representative Mary Bono Mack (R-CA), to demand more answers from Sony -- and, more specifically, the individuals mentioned by Spafford -- does exist.

Courtesy: Joystiq (http://www.joystiq.com/2011/05/05/psn-servers-were-unpatched-and-had-no-firewall-installed-secu/)

JeffHCross
05-05-2011, 09:23 PM
It's beyond comprehension how a major company could keep their network that holds 77 million accounts offline for going on 3 weeks.No, it's not. The only part that is really stunning about this is that they're being so uncommunicative about it. But anybody will take down any network, even ones that are actually essential, if it means the difference between secure and unsecure.


It sounds like Sony didn't have the greatest experts in charge of security for PSN:There's really no part of that statement that's surprising to me, actually. A ton of companies think they are more secure than reality, and a ton of companies have security "experts" that turn a deaf ear to people pointing out problems. Not saying I believe it happened (more than likely the events are exaggerated, at least), but nothing about that would surprise me.

skipwondah33
05-06-2011, 12:14 AM
No, it's not. The only part that is really stunning about this is that they're being so uncommunicative about it. But anybody will take down any network, even ones that are actually essential, if it means the difference between secure and unsecure.
Yep and will leave it down as long as possible to ensure the network's security. Most companies typically spend most of their resources on network security I would imagine. I know in our case my senior management gave me an unlimited budget within reason of course to ensure in that area. I'm in agreement with Jeff, its not so much about them keeping it down but rather the lack of communication regarding it.


There's really no part of that statement that's surprising to me, actually. A ton of companies think they are more secure than reality, and a ton of companies have security "experts" that turn a deaf ear to people pointing out problems. Not saying I believe it happened (more than likely the events are exaggerated, at least), but nothing about that would surprise me.

Yeah alot of companies have a false sense of being secure. I've felt pretty good about our network's security but I'm always staying on edge about pushing it to being more secure. Its hard to imagine someone being an expert in something that constantly changes because there is always someone out there that knows more about it then you.

Marlowe
05-06-2011, 05:39 AM
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/sony-to-offer-playstation-network-and-qriocity-members-free-id-theft-protection/12677


It seems that Sony is, at last, doing the right thing and offering all those in the US affected by the PlayStation Network and Qriocity 12-months free ID theft protection (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/05/05/sony-offering-free-allclear-id-plus-identity-theft-protection-in-the-united-states-through-debix-inc/).
Sony has made arrangements with Debix to offer PlayStation Network and Qriocity account holders 12 months access to AllClear ID Plus (https://www.allclearid.com/).
This service includes:


Cyber monitoring and surveillance
Access to private investigators and ID restoration specialists
$1 million ID theft insurance plan

Those affected will be sent activation codes and a link to the enrollment page via email. The activation codes will be valid until June 18th.


http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/05/05/a-letter-from-howard-stringer/

CLW
05-06-2011, 06:43 AM
So NCAA 12 before PSN back up and running?

I OU a Beatn
05-06-2011, 09:56 AM
So NCAA 12 before PSN back up and running?

It's looking like that could be a possibility.

JBHuskers
05-06-2011, 09:58 AM
...and considering the bulk of this site uses PS3 :D

Thank god for the Gears beta.

JBHuskers
05-06-2011, 10:07 AM
PSN servers were 'unpatched and had no firewall installed,' security expert testifies (http://www.joystiq.com/2011/05/05/psn-servers-were-unpatched-and-had-no-firewall-installed-secu/)

WOW :smh:

CLW
05-06-2011, 11:26 AM
PSN servers were 'unpatched and had no firewall installed,' security expert testifies (http://www.joystiq.com/2011/05/05/psn-servers-were-unpatched-and-had-no-firewall-installed-secu/)

WOW :smh:

Yeah I have noticed MS has been really quiet about it and hasn't tried to capitalize on it at all. I wonder if they also know that the 360 security isn't up to snuff either and if Anon et al. wanted to they could destroy Live?

JBHuskers
05-06-2011, 11:34 AM
Yeah I have noticed MS has been really quiet about it and hasn't tried to capitalize on it at all. I wonder if they also know that the 360 security isn't up to snuff either and if Anon et al. wanted to they could destroy Live?

If it happened we could then laugh in the face of the 360 fanboys. A fanboy of anything is annoying, a 360 fanboy during this is completely unbearable.

I OU a Beatn
05-06-2011, 11:47 AM
I haven't seen too much fan boy stuff during this, which is surprising. I usually get a good laugh out of any kind of fan boy. Oh well, I sincerely doubt you'll ever see Live go down like this for that long. Unlike PSN, most of their customers are on the paid subscription and the pay out would be enormous for Microsoft. Not like they couldn't afford it, but I digress.

ram29jackson
05-06-2011, 03:38 PM
as usual


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpgbfUPO8RU

ram29jackson
05-06-2011, 03:45 PM
a band called Killing Joke and a song called Tension- appropriate for PS3 users haha

and a view of early entertainment haha its only the 80s, its not like it was 1902 or something haha


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWyUByNNiLY

JBHuskers
05-06-2011, 04:07 PM
The first time I saw the Hitler parody I found it boring LOL

Just saw a tweet from Kotaku's Owen Good that says we'll be getting two free PSN games. (Hoping we get to pick which two)

CLW
05-06-2011, 05:02 PM
The first time I saw the Hitler parody I found it boring LOL

Just saw a tweet from Kotaku's Owen Good that says we'll be getting two free PSN games. (Hoping we get to pick which two)

Of course that presumes PSN doesn't get hacked again which apparently hackers are planning on doing as soon as PSN is back up.

skipwondah33
05-06-2011, 05:26 PM
I haven't seen too much fan boy stuff during this, which is surprising. I usually get a good laugh out of any kind of fan boy. Oh well, I sincerely doubt you'll ever see Live go down like this for that long. Unlike PSN, most of their customers are on the paid subscription and the pay out would be enormous for Microsoft. Not like they couldn't afford it, but I digress.
I've seen a bit from another site I go to. When XBL is bringing in that kind of money from that service alone I wouldnt expect them to have this same problem, that kind of money can produce an IT department or two to monitor it lol

Even with Sony having a lackasical security approach it seems, they still managed to get by without facing heavy attacks until recently.

I OU a Beatn
05-06-2011, 05:30 PM
You get to pick 2 of the 5 games they'll have selected for us. So while we technically get to choose, chances are our choices aren't going to be very good.

ram29jackson
05-06-2011, 07:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CN3QhigOVC4&feature=feedu

JeffHCross
05-06-2011, 07:49 PM
It seems that Sony is, at last, doing the right thing and offering all those in the US affected by the PlayStation Network and Qriocity 12-months free ID theft protection.Sigh. About time.

JeffHCross
05-06-2011, 08:11 PM
Wall Street Journal summarizes the events. Pretty good summary, in my eyes.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704810504576307322759299038.html

cdj
05-06-2011, 11:22 PM
The latest update is that there is no update (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/05/06/service-restoration-update/).

JBHuskers
05-06-2011, 11:23 PM
I'm just waiting for Sony to get hacked again to where you try to log on and this plays.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J---aiyznGQ

I OU a Beatn
05-06-2011, 11:31 PM
I swear to Christ, if this is not up by Tuesday when Brink comes out. Shit is going to hit the fan. I do not want to play that shit on 360 with that controller and if I have to delay my purchase of it for even a day, I'm going to call and complain until I get something good. :D

Hell, if by some miracle it's not up by the 17th when L.A. Noire comes out, I'll REALLY be pissed. I don't want the 360 version with it's 3 discs.

CLW
05-07-2011, 05:59 AM
I'm telling you NCAA 12 is going to be out before we get PSN back 66 more days. And that only applies IF the hackers are unsuccessful in trying to hack into PSN again.

Iron Dragon
05-07-2011, 11:56 AM
I'm hoping that it's up by June at this point. I really hope it comes back soon - the NTG patch is going to drop and I want to get back into that game.

I OU a Beatn
05-07-2011, 12:09 PM
JUNE?! Hell, it better be up this week. If I'm forced to buy Brink for 360, I might just start buying all my games for 360. It's down down for going on 3 weeks now. It's time we got either an ETA or better yet...the network back up.

DariusLock
05-07-2011, 12:52 PM
I think Sony should send everyone a free game voucher lol.

psusnoop
05-07-2011, 01:19 PM
I think Sony should send everyone a free game voucher lol.

:up:

jaymo76
05-07-2011, 04:06 PM
JUNE?! Hell, it better be up this week. If I'm forced to buy Brink for 360, I might just start buying all my games for 360. It's down down for going on 3 weeks now. It's time we got either an ETA or better yet...the network back up.



Here's why you should NEVER give up on PS3... RED RING OF DEATH...TRUST ME, I LEARNED MY LESSON WELL.

I OU a Beatn
05-07-2011, 04:11 PM
I had a launch 360 for almost 4 years and never once had a problem. I had a new slim go out, but as a courtesy of it dying so quick, Microsoft sent me a brand new one and it's been working like a champ ever since.

However, I've had THREE PS3s break due to the bluray drive going bad in them. All three times it was out of warranty by less than 2 weeks, and not a single time would Sony honor is. They wanted $150 each time.

So when it comes to console reliability, I definitely trust my 360 a lot more than PS3. In fact, I don't trust either of them. The reason I have both is for whenever the other one inevitably breaks. :D

skipwondah33
05-07-2011, 06:58 PM
I had two 360's got out me. So I haven't bought another since. The only thing I use my PS3 for is to play games. Like the I did for my PS2 when it could play DVDs I never used it.

Took care of both systems the same with extreme care letting them cool before shutting them off and regularly blowing dust out if them. Maybe down the road I'll get another just to have

JeffHCross
05-07-2011, 09:15 PM
I swear to Christ, if this is not up by Tuesday when Brink comes out. Shit is going to hit the fan. I do not want to play that shit on 360 with that controller and if I have to delay my purchase of it for even a day, I'm going to call and complain until I get something good. :DYes ... because the real tragedy in this is whether or not you have to play Brink on the 360.

I OU a Beatn
05-07-2011, 09:22 PM
It is for me. I paid $300 for the system(add another $1,300 if you want to count the broken ones), so it's really annoying that I can't do with it as I intended. I've already had to pass on Motorstorm for the time being, and at this rate, I'm more than likely going to have to do the same with Brink.

Honestly, I wouldn't even care if it was down for two months. This garbage of not informing their customers of exactly what's going on and instead pumping up full of "we are working around the clock to ensure that the network is up and secure ASAP" is what's getting on my nerves. As of now, it could be up tomorrow, it could be up next week, it could be up in 2 weeks, a month, hell...they might have decided to completely scrap it and I wouldn't have the slightest clue.

I realize with the massive lack of advertising they do for their first party games that they think people buy PS3s just for the hell of it, but contrary to that belief, a lot of people buy them for games. A fairly good portion of them buy them to play online with friends. It's inexcusable to have the network down for going on 3 weeks and still not be able to give customers an even remotely ballpark answer of when it possibly will be up.

But rest assured, they're "working around the clock." Psh.

souljahbill
05-07-2011, 09:37 PM
It is for me. I paid $300 for the system(add another $1,300 if you want to count the broken ones), so it's really annoying that I can't do with it as I intended. I've already had to pass on Motorstorm for the time being, and at this rate, I'm more than likely going to have to do the same with Brink.

Honestly, I wouldn't even care if it was down for two months. This garbage of not informing their customers of exactly what's going on and instead pumping up full of "we are working around the clock to ensure that the network is up and secure ASAP" is what's getting on my nerves. As of now, it could be up tomorrow, it could be up next week, it could be up in 2 weeks, a month, hell...they might have decided to completely scrap it and I wouldn't have the slightest clue.

I realize with the massive lack of advertising they do for their first party games that they think people buy PS3s just for the hell of it, but contrary to that belief, a lot of people buy them for games. A fairly good portion of them buy them to play online with friends. It's inexcusable to have the network down for going on 3 weeks and still not be able to give customers an even remotely ballpark answer of when it possibly will be up.

But rest assured, they're "working around the clock." Psh.

I'll be honest, it's an inconvenience but it's really not that serious. Everyday it's not up just makes the shitpile bigger and they lose revenue due to lost PSN sales. I'm willing to bet they're working around the clock but it's more important to make sure it never happens again. They probably not saying anything because they don't have anything to say. If they say Tuesday and it's not ready by Tuesday, then they get shit on for "not doing what they said they would do." Sony isn't blameless in how they're handling the situation but showing some form of patience will serve you better in the long run.


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I OU a Beatn
05-07-2011, 09:42 PM
They did say something. Last Wednesday, I believe, they said it'll be up and running "within a week." That was 10 days ago now, which is not within a week.

Like I said, I'm fine with them improving security. It should've never been an issue in the first place, but whatever. I just find it a huge inconvenience whenever a big game releases and I can't even play it with my friends because I have absolutely no idea when it's going to be up. It's annoying to say the least.

morsdraconis
05-07-2011, 09:51 PM
There is absolutely no way any internet service should ever be down this long. That's horrible mismanagement on their part. Plain and simple.

HuskerBlitz
05-07-2011, 09:54 PM
It's amazing to think that at one time, there was no online play. How did people survive? :dunno:

souljahbill
05-07-2011, 10:20 PM
They did say something. Last Wednesday, I believe, they said it'll be up and running "within a week." That was 10 days ago now, which is not within a week. This is EXACTLY why they don't say anything. They thought it would be a week and for whatever reason, it didn't happen. Now you can use that against them. Like I said, they don't know when it'll be up. They would have it up now if it were feasible but it apparently isn't.




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morsdraconis
05-07-2011, 10:52 PM
It's amazing to think that at one time, there was no online play. How did people survive? :dunno:

Well, considering that PC gaming had online gaming through modem to modem connection way back in the early 80s and became QUITE popular in the 90s (Doom, RTSs, and ASCII based games through BBSs), video gaming has been centralized around multiplayer games for a LONG time (LAN parties being the major place where multiplayer games really became THE thing to play).

So, long story short, we haven't had to survive without online gaming of some sort for a long time.

I OU a Beatn
05-07-2011, 11:03 PM
It's amazing to think that at one time, there was no online play. How did people survive? :dunno:

I still remember having to buy that network adapter for the PS2 just to get access. Good ol' dialup. :D

HuskerBlitz
05-08-2011, 12:38 AM
Hell, I predate the Atari 2600. I didn't play a single online console game until the 2000s. Nonetheless, I'm sure people can survive a month or so without online gaming without blowing a gasket. And especially since PSN is free.

ram29jackson
05-08-2011, 04:31 AM
It's amazing to think that at one time, there was no online play. How did people survive? :dunno:

checkers , reading, and interpersonal communication....

UGA14
05-08-2011, 09:38 AM
I'm hoping that it's up by June at this point. I really hope it comes back soon - the NTG patch is going to drop and I want to get back into that game.

Don't worry, it isn't going to drop. You can still DL patches without the PSN but the great developer that made the game is using this as an excuse to delay the patch indefinitely basically saying they cannot test anything. That game sucks the more I play it.

DariusLock
05-08-2011, 03:52 PM
I just don't see why they can't put the servers up at peak gaming hours and then shut em down and do what they need to during down hours...

morsdraconis
05-08-2011, 04:07 PM
I just don't see why they can't put the servers up at peak gaming hours and then shut em down and do what they need to during down hours...

Because as soon as they put them back up, they're going to get bombarded by DDos attacks so they better make sure their shit is straight or it won't be up for long.

CLW
05-08-2011, 04:11 PM
Because as soon as they put them back up, they're going to get bombarded by DDos attacks so they better make sure their shit is straight or it won't be up for long.

What you mean hackers do their thing during "peak gaming hours"? You think of EVERYTHING! :nod:

JeffHCross
05-08-2011, 05:42 PM
I just don't see why they can't put the servers up at peak gaming hours and then shut em down and do what they need to during down hours...

Because as soon as they put them back up, they're going to get bombarded by DDos attacks so they better make sure their shit is straight or it won't be up for long.
Bingo. If they're not secure when they go back up, they'll be back down within practically no time. Sony's already getting threatened with more attacks, some claiming to be from disgruntled Sony fans who aren't happy with the security/downtime.

I OU a Beatn
05-08-2011, 05:50 PM
some claiming to be from disgruntled Sony fans who aren't happy with the security/downtime.

So...they hack it again meaning it'll be down even longer? That's genius. They should be commended for such brilliance.

morsdraconis
05-08-2011, 05:57 PM
So...they hack it again meaning it'll be down even longer? That's genius. They should be commended for such brilliance.

Nah, they've already moved on. They're just tired of incompetence and want to make them pay for it.

Personally, I think it's hilarious. This has to be the biggest failure EVER by a company when it comes to a service provided by them being down. A few days would have been a snafu, but this is absolutely insane. It's been ~2 1/2 weeks since it got taken down. That's simply unacceptable.

JeffHCross
05-08-2011, 06:26 PM
So...they hack it again meaning it'll be down even longer? That's genius. They should be commended for such brilliance.My thoughts exactly.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/227297/sony_faces_weekend_hack_attack_report_claims.html


Now it seems that Sony should be preparing itself for another hack--this time from scorned PSN, Qriocity, and Sony Online network users. Apparently Sony's apology wasn't enough to make up for the fact that the company took over a week to disclose the breach to its customers.

Is it just me, or is this whole "fighting fire with fire" thing not working out? CNET suggests that the group of hackers planning this weekend's attack is the same group of hackers that originally infiltrated the PSN servers--in other words, that the hackers who hacked the network are annoyed with Sony's mishandling of their attack, so they're going to attack Sony again. Genius move there, guys. That's like me robbing a grocery store and then getting self-righteously pissed at the grocery store for having poor security.

steelerfan
05-08-2011, 06:28 PM
Wow, that is dumb.

psusnoop
05-08-2011, 06:35 PM
Wow, that is dumb.

Idiots

CLW
05-08-2011, 06:55 PM
R.i.p. Psn

I OU a Beatn
05-08-2011, 08:41 PM
Yeah, no kidding. They'll launch PS4 without a network whatsoever. :D

ram29jackson
05-08-2011, 08:53 PM
Yeah, no kidding. They'll launch PS4 without a network whatsoever. :D


:( thats not funny

psuexv
05-09-2011, 09:28 AM
If Microsoft was smart they should start offering a trade in credit for your PS3 on a new Xbox.

JBHuskers
05-09-2011, 10:09 AM
If Microsoft was smart they should start offering a trade in credit for your PS3 on a new Xbox.

True, but that would be a backhand that could be bad pub in the end.

psuexv
05-09-2011, 10:13 AM
True, but that would be a backhand that could be bad pub in the end.

Verizon did it with ATT iphone users and nobody seemed to care. A "little" bit different since you are actually switching products, but you were still switching services.

steelerfan
05-09-2011, 10:15 AM
True, but that would be a backhand that could be bad pub in the end.

It would certainly pose a challenge to hackers to attack XBL. I'm sure MS would rather keep out of it, hope they aren't attacked, and let Sony look bad on their own.

skipwondah33
05-09-2011, 10:22 AM
It would certainly pose a challenge to hackers to attack XBL. I'm sure MS would rather keep out of it, hope they aren't attacked, and let Sony look bad on their own.

Yep same thing I was thinking.

psuexv
05-09-2011, 10:25 AM
It would certainly pose a challenge to hackers to attack XBL. I'm sure MS would rather keep out of it, hope they aren't attacked, and let Sony look bad on their own.

So MS swaying people over to their system would entice these hackers to try and hit XBL? If they want to hit XBL they are going to do it, not because MS said "hey come play our system"

steelerfan
05-09-2011, 10:46 AM
So MS swaying people over to their system would entice these hackers to try and hit XBL? If they want to hit XBL they are going to do it, not because MS said "hey come play our system"

In the mind of a deviant, it would be the same as saying, "our network is secure, join us." Just my opinion. Sorta like the feeling people get that the celebrations of bin Laden's death will bring more terror.

It's not necessary, IMO, for MS to overtly advertize Sony's failure. They can reap benefits from it without saying a word. No need to say, "We can't be brought down! Buy an XBOX!"

psuexv
05-09-2011, 10:50 AM
In the mind of a deviant, it would be the same as saying, "our network is secure, join us." Just my opinion. Sorta like the feeling people get that the celebrations of bin Laden's death will bring more terror.

It's not necessary, IMO, for MS to overtly advertize Sony's failure. They can reap benefits from it without saying a word. No need to say, "We can't be brought down! Buy an XBOX!"

So these hackers are the equivalent to Navy Seals? :dunno:

I don't think that would be the case at all. These hackers went after PSN for revenge on Sony sueing that one hacker. I could see them revering in the fact that they are driving business from Sony to MS, IMO

steelerfan
05-09-2011, 10:55 AM
So these hackers are the equivalent to Navy Seals? :dunno:

Huh?

psuexv
05-09-2011, 10:57 AM
Huh?

You're comparing PSN's death to Bin Laden's.... seemed pretty straight forward to me :bang:

I OU a Beatn
05-09-2011, 10:59 AM
It's not necessary, IMO, for MS to overtly advertize Sony's failure. They can reap benefits from it without saying a word. No need to say, "We can't be brought down! Buy an XBOX!"

This. With the way Microsoft has been selling 360s the past 4 or 5 months, they don't even need to utilize Sony's network problems.

Even with that, you know there's going to be some people that will switch. That's just bound to happen. Hell, people switch between consoles every day for no reason whatsoever, so I'm sure a 3 week outage would probably increase that a bit.

steelerfan
05-09-2011, 11:03 AM
You're comparing PSN's death to Bin Laden's.... seemed pretty straight forward to me :bang:

No, in my illiterate illustration, the terrorists are the hackers, lol. What I'm saying is there is nothing to be gained from drawing the attention of the hackers by showing the bravado that "they didn't get us!"

psuexv
05-09-2011, 11:07 AM
No, in my illiterate illustration, the terrorists are the hackers, lol.

Ahhh, that actually makes sense. Since the terrorist would be retaliating to the over excitement as would the hackers to the blatant promo of MS system


What I'm saying is there is nothing to be gained from drawing the attention of the hackers by showing the bravado that "they didn't get us!"

And I agree that MS won't do anything as they don't really want to put down Sony, but I don't agree that it would have the backlash that you think, IMO. They targeted PSN for a specific reason and I honestly think they would be happy to see the business moving away from Sony. This very easily could be the other way around.

steelerfan
05-09-2011, 11:19 AM
They targeted PSN for a specific reason and I honestly think they would be happy to see the business moving away from Sony. This very easily could be the other way around.

I get it. But, undoubtedly XBL is already in some hacker's crosshairs (it doesn't have to be the same group). No need to stir them up, IMO.

CLW
05-09-2011, 11:54 AM
I do believe that if MS started directly "bragging" about/using PSN's problem(s) to try to bring over new customers hackers would view that as a challenge.

Maybe I'm wrong here but I'm betting if hackers REALLY wanted to they could shut down Live just as easily as they have done to PSN.

gschwendt
05-09-2011, 01:03 PM
PSN outage costing Capcom 'hundreds of thousands, if not millions,' exec says (http://www.joystiq.com/2011/05/09/psn-outage-costing-capcom-hundreds-of-thousands-if-not-million/)
You have to know with that kind of line thrown out there, Sony is doing everything they can to bring the system back up as quickly as they can.

steelerfan
05-09-2011, 01:08 PM
You have to know with that kind of line thrown out there, Sony is doing everything they can to bring the system back up as quickly as they can.

+1

Violator
05-09-2011, 02:36 PM
wait, PSN is down??

JBHuskers
05-09-2011, 02:41 PM
wait, PSN is down??

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s159/jbennett98/breaking-news-54.jpg

Violator
05-09-2011, 03:27 PM
ohhh noes!!!! ZOINKS!! ohh well its summer, get outside and enjoy the sun!!

Kingpin32
05-09-2011, 03:28 PM
What if MS is behind this lol?

Kingpin32
05-09-2011, 03:37 PM
So Sony doesn't plan on launching PSN until my birthday? That's a whole 21 days from now.

psuexv
05-09-2011, 03:38 PM
What if MS is behind this lol?

And Bill Gates is sitting on a pile of money laughing his ass off

CLW
05-09-2011, 03:41 PM
Personally, I heard Obama was behind it b/c FLOTUS was bothering him about kids playing too many video games and not buying into her exercise and eat right campaign.

CLW
05-09-2011, 03:46 PM
May 31st over/under?

http://www.1up.com/news/psn-might-not-fully-back-may-31

psuexv
05-09-2011, 03:49 PM
May 31st over/under?

http://www.1up.com/news/psn-might-not-fully-back-may-31

For complete functionality of the PSN.. over. I think some things will be back up way before then though.

CLW
05-09-2011, 03:49 PM
Google Chrome coming to PSN when it is back up in 2020?

http://www.product-reviews.net/2011/05/09/google-chrome-for-ps3-ideal-launch-when-psn-back-up/

Kingpin32
05-09-2011, 03:50 PM
Honestly, since they've turned off my access to having wireless internet in my dorm room, this PSN down mess hasn't really affected me. But I'll be back home in a week with nothing to do for 2 weeks, and with Brink I was really looking forward to playing it online.

psusnoop
05-09-2011, 04:10 PM
Seems crazy to think it would take that long to get it back up and secure.

CLW
05-09-2011, 04:12 PM
For complete functionality of the PSN.. over. I think some things will be back up way before then though.

Yeah you may be right so the things that make $. PSN Store up pronto playing games online not so.... much?

JeffHCross
05-09-2011, 07:31 PM
Yeah you may be right so the things that make $. PSN Store up pronto playing games online not so.... much?From all indications, it's going to be the opposite. I think they're a lot more worried about securing the Store than they are about securing online play. Plus there's probably a lot more to secure, obviously.

The general thinking lately is that we'll see a slow rollout of returning services, starting with PSN Online Play. The Store is expected to be the last thing that comes back.

If you think about it, of the two, not having Online Play is significantly more of a long-term cost to Sony (because of all the people that would jump to XBL to play their friends) than not having the Store. Only so many people would swap because they're desperate for certain DLC.

psusnoop
05-09-2011, 07:47 PM
Plus one here Jeff great point, just be nice to get back online and start playing again. I miss powerhouse dynasty haha

cdj
05-10-2011, 01:12 PM
PSN service to be restored later this week 'at the earliest' - perhaps not until next week (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6312969/psn-service-restoration-at-least-days-away).

CLW
05-10-2011, 01:19 PM
PSN service to be restored later this week 'at the earliest' - perhaps not until next week (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6312969/psn-service-restoration-at-least-days-away).

... "perhaps not until 2050" but who's counting?

in other words the news is that we have no news.

I OU a Beatn
05-10-2011, 01:48 PM
Wow, this is crossing over from "ridiculous" to "asinine."

psusnoop
05-10-2011, 01:55 PM
PSN service to be restored later this week 'at the earliest' - perhaps not until next week (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6312969/psn-service-restoration-at-least-days-away).

I think they should just give daily tidbits of information and updates about the status and quit putting a time frame on something that they themselves seem unsure about. It would keep people from getting so touchy about the situation (well some it might anyways .....:D:D)

morsdraconis
05-10-2011, 02:01 PM
I think they should just give daily tidbits of information and updates about the status and quit putting a time frame on something that they themselves seem unsure about. It would keep people from getting so touchy about the situation (well some it might anyways .....:D:D)

There's no preventing the touchiness of the situation anymore. As I said before, this is, by far, the worst, most mishandled situation I've ever seen for an online service outage ever. It's getting on being a month (only 12 more days if I remember correctly when it went out) without being able to log on at all with a PSN device. It's getting to the point where Sony will be losing customers forever now. This type of mismanagement is just beyond acceptable. When you have games coming out that are really only playable online, not having that service pretty much makes that system useless now doesn't it?

CLW
05-10-2011, 02:01 PM
I think they should just give daily tidbits of information and updates about the status and quit putting a time frame on something that they themselves seem unsure about. It would keep people from getting so touchy about the situation (well some it might anyways .....:D:D)

Agreed. What they should have done is:

#1 come out and explain that they are completely having to rebuild the network to secure our identity/safety and explain that they are working very hard but there is no time table and PSN will not be back up until Sony can solve/fix the problem(s)

#2 have a seperate person come out and say due to the undetermined length of the suspension of PSN we are giving all PSN users.... and all PSN+ users ....

#3 say NOTHING until PSN is 100% going to be back online and state when it will be online and what we need to do to get our "free" stuff.

psusnoop
05-10-2011, 02:07 PM
Agreed. What they should have done is:

#1 come out and explain that they are completely having to rebuild the network to secure our identity/safety and explain that they are working very hard but there is no time table and PSN will not be back up until Sony can solve/fix the problem(s)

#2 have a seperate person come out and say due to the undetermined length of the suspension of PSN we are giving all PSN users.... and all PSN+ users ....

#3 say NOTHING until PSN is 100% going to be back online and state when it will be online and what we need to do to get our "free" stuff.

That would have worked for me.

psusnoop
05-10-2011, 02:11 PM
There's no preventing the touchiness of the situation anymore. As I said before, this is, by far, the worst, most mishandled situation I've ever seen for an online service outage ever. It's getting on being a month (only 12 more days if I remember correctly when it went out) without being able to log on at all with a PSN device. It's getting to the point where Sony will be losing customers forever now. This type of mismanagement is just beyond acceptable. When you have games coming out that are really only playable online, not having that service pretty much makes that system useless now doesn't it?

It does suck that this situation hasn't been handled correctly at all, but I also realize that they seem to be taking (or so it appears) drastic measures to ensure the safety of us users. In the end had they given us faster information about the breach of our identities and given us less time frames this whole situation wouldn't "feel" as bad.

I'm sure some may leave to go over to XBox Live, but I bet that number is exaggerated as well.

CLW
05-10-2011, 04:09 PM
It does suck that this situation hasn't been handled correctly at all, but I also realize that they seem to be taking (or so it appears) drastic measures to ensure the safety of us users. In the end had they given us faster information about the breach of our identities and given us less time frames this whole situation wouldn't "feel" as bad.

I'm sure some may leave to go over to XBox Live, but I bet that number is exaggerated as well.

You mean like those people that would "NEVER" buy a Toyota again after the break recall and/or the people that would "NEVER" buy a GM product again after the bail out?

Note, I was/am one of the GM people and I did in fact buy a Honda Pilot with the Cash for Clunkers Program ($3500 for my 1999 Blazer with 300,000 + miles on it and worth probably $500 when I traded it in).

So yes there are SOME people that Sony will lose b/c of this. However, the vast majority will return. See GM and Toyota #1 and #2 car manufacturers in the world STILL despite their recent PR fiascos.

For whatever reason this PSN problem hasn't driven me to the I'm going to MS yet. However, if something further crazy happens I COULD see myself switching to the 720 when the next generation of consoles come out.

UGA14
05-10-2011, 04:48 PM
I'm the opposite. I don't care, I won't leave Sony because someone took down their system. I've driven Toyotas nearly all my life, been the most reliable car I've ever had. 200,000 miles with no maintenance done to them and they won't die. Not to mention the feds proved most of that was driver error...

souljahbill
05-10-2011, 04:55 PM
I don't play online anyone so this hasn't affected me any outside of checking out the store on Tuesdays.

psusnoop
05-10-2011, 07:33 PM
Yep that's pretty much what I'm thinking CLW.

JeffHCross
05-10-2011, 10:49 PM
#1 come out and explain that they are completely having to rebuild the network to secure our identity/safety and explain that they are working very hard but there is no time table and PSN will not be back up until Sony can solve/fix the problem(s)They did that (to an extent).

#3 say NOTHING until PSN is 100% going to be back online and state when it will be online and what we need to do to get our "free" stuff.They tried to do that, but people kept clamoring for information.

It's a lose, lose situation.

CLW
05-11-2011, 05:47 AM
They did that (to an extent).
They tried to do that, but people kept clamoring for information.

It's a lose, lose situation.

Yes people will always clamor for more info. However, if you have no new HARD info to give you are better off saying nothing ESPECIALLY if you made it crystal clear in your initial statement that PSN would be down for an undetermined amount of time. Coming out every other day and saying you are "close" and/or "unsure" and/or "possibly" only further fans the flames.

ram29jackson
05-11-2011, 06:44 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyC0X1z4J0U

cdj
05-13-2011, 08:50 AM
GamePro: PSN Developer Network Back Online, Full Network Back Soon? (http://www.gamepro.com/article/news/219372/psn-developer-network-back-online-full-network-back-soon/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+GameProNews+%28GamePro.com+Da ily+News%29)

bjrod9
05-13-2011, 10:11 AM
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/44314/SOE-announces-further-PSN-outage-rewards

:sick:

gschwendt
05-13-2011, 10:13 AM
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/44314/SOE-announces-further-PSN-outage-rewards

:sick:That's all pretty much relating to their online-only, several of which are subscription games.

I OU a Beatn
05-13-2011, 11:05 AM
I'd say Tuesday.

psuexv
05-13-2011, 11:06 AM
I'd say Tuesday.

Which Tuesday????

JBHuskers
05-13-2011, 11:16 AM
Which Tuesday????

I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger PSN today.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJ6xBaZ92uA

I OU a Beatn
05-13-2011, 11:22 AM
Which Tuesday????

I haven't decided yet, but I have decided on it being a Tuesday. :D

psuexv
05-13-2011, 11:23 AM
HA! Freaking Popeye, I loved that cartoon


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5eDC3ZEdEQ

souljahbill
05-13-2011, 11:24 AM
I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger PSN today.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJ6xBaZ92uA

I'm on my phone so the YouTube link posted is shown as a link and I haven't clicked on it yet but if it's a video of Wimpy from Popeye, then +1 to you because you win at teh interwebz.


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JBHuskers
05-13-2011, 11:36 AM
I'm on my phone so the YouTube link posted is shown as a link and I haven't clicked on it yet but if it's a video of Wimpy from Popeye, then +1 to you because you win at teh interwebz.


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Yes it is Wimpy :)

ram29jackson
05-13-2011, 05:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM89T74MPnE

ram29jackson
05-13-2011, 05:28 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIotIGFN2oc

ram29jackson
05-13-2011, 05:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnOr8fBaTfY

ram29jackson
05-13-2011, 05:33 PM
best one haha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hmDZz5pDOQ&NR=1


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prHZ9ihnOs8

JBHuskers
05-13-2011, 06:08 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM89T74MPnE

Now I clearly see that Nintendo ripped off the Muppet Show when they created Birdo for Super Mario Bros. 2

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_QcvVEBLh14g/RoSekHXVQgI/AAAAAAAAACs/Sr2JOhPyPlU/s320/birdossb.jpg

JeffHCross
05-13-2011, 07:24 PM
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/44314/SOE-announces-further-PSN-outage-rewards

:sick:Eh ... can't say I'm surprised by that. Those rewards aren't really directed towards us (most of those aren't even PSN games), but toward SoE users. I think SoE is still down too, which would stop any of those games from being accessed. And most of those are subscriber titles, which makes the need to "make good" even stronger for Sony.

It's really a misnomer for that article to even connect those rewards to PSN.

Iron Dragon
05-13-2011, 10:14 PM
PS3 met the always friendly YLOD tonight.

ram29jackson
05-13-2011, 10:51 PM
PS3 met the always friendly YLOD tonight.

I feel your pain

steelerfan
05-13-2011, 10:55 PM
PS3 met the always friendly YLOD tonight.

Happy belated birthday. :smh:

Gilksey's fix works, but it will take several hours if you've never done it. If you go that route, I'd recommend fixing it, buying a new one, transferring your data, and trading the old one ASAP. I've done the repair many times and I'm not inclined to do such things. It can be done, if you're determined to do it.

JBHuskers
05-14-2011, 03:01 PM
The champagne is ready....will it ever be used? (http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/forums/showthread.php?2186-The-PSN-is-back-up-celebration-thread-(to-be-unlocked-IF-it-ever-happens))

cdj
05-14-2011, 03:07 PM
The champagne is ready....will it ever be used? (http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/forums/showthread.php?2186-The-PSN-is-back-up-celebration-thread-(to-be-unlocked-IF-it-ever-happens))

I hope you have a lot of ice.

JBHuskers
05-14-2011, 03:07 PM
I hope you have a lot of ice.

:D :D :D

psusnoop
05-14-2011, 03:10 PM
I hope you have a lot of ice.
:D:D

bjrod9
05-14-2011, 03:48 PM
:D:D

Or an Ice machine.

JBHuskers
05-14-2011, 04:56 PM
Or an Ice machine.

:D :P

CLW
05-14-2011, 05:03 PM
Or just one Coors Light bottle.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9jIsXp8sQQ

JBHuskers
05-14-2011, 05:04 PM
That commercial is good....

I OU a Beatn
05-14-2011, 05:11 PM
It's not going to be on ice for very long. The world is ending on May 21, you know.

HEY, maybe that's what Sony is waiting for! :D :fp:

JBHuskers
05-14-2011, 05:12 PM
It's not going to be on ice for very long. The world is ending on May 21, you know.

HEY, maybe that's what Sony is waiting for! :D :fp:

So PSN, just give us ONE day before the world ends to get back on! :D

I OU a Beatn
05-14-2011, 05:17 PM
If that's the case, they're probably not doing anything. They realized the world was ending and it wasn't worth the effort, so they're just giving up bullshit updates to make us think it's getting fixed. We'll get another Blog update next Friday, "We once again want to issue our sincerest apologies to all of our beloved Playstation Network users. Unfortunately, after careful consideration, we've decided that the potential of the impending apocalypse is too great to bring the network back up, as it's pointless to bring the network back online when world wide internet access will be severed. We thank you for the countless hours and money you've spent on our network, and we hope you continue to enjoy our excellent catalog of exclusive single player games while hanging out in your bunker. Love, Sony."

:D

bjrod9
05-14-2011, 05:20 PM
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/116/1168409p1.html

Some history on the video

ram29jackson
05-14-2011, 05:45 PM
The champagne is ready....will it ever be used? (http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/forums/showthread.php?2186-The-PSN-is-back-up-celebration-thread-(to-be-unlocked-IF-it-ever-happens))

thats right people- the 9 minute version this time- run it while doing house work or something haha


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHOBw6XwqRo&feature=related

I OU a Beatn
05-14-2011, 06:08 PM
From the Blog:


We have been working on a new PS3 system software update that requires all PSN users to change their password once PlayStation Network is restored. The update (v3.61) is mandatory and is available now.

If using a PS3, your password can only be changed on your own PS3 (or a PS3 on which your PSN account was activated), as an added layer of security. If you have never downloaded any content using your account on the system, an email will be sent to the registered sign-in ID (email address) associated with your account when you first attempt to sign-in to PSN. This e-mail will contain a link that will enable you to change your password. In this email, click on the link and follow the instructions to change your password. Once you have changed your password you can sign-in to your account using your new password.

We strongly recommend that all PSN account holders with PS3s update their systems to prepare for when PlayStation Network is back online. The release of this update is a critical step as we work to make PlayStation Network significantly more secure. Thank you for your continued support and patience.

Holy shit, maybe they are doing something! :D

I OU a Beatn
05-14-2011, 06:16 PM
Oh my God, this update is the slowest update I've ever had on anything. It's been downloading for 10 minutes and it's 10%. :D

psusnoop
05-14-2011, 06:17 PM
LOL, I should start mine now then is that what you are saying...hahaha

gschwendt
05-14-2011, 06:21 PM
Oh my God, this update is the slowest update I've ever had on anything. It's been downloading for 10 minutes and it's 10%. :D
Wow... mine has probably been running for 2 minutes at most and it's already at 26%.

I OU a Beatn
05-14-2011, 06:23 PM
Yeah, mine picked up after I said that. It's already done now. Now we just have to wait for Sony to bring it back online. Tonight? Tomorrow? My bet is for Monday or Tuesday.

psusnoop
05-14-2011, 06:25 PM
I'm not going to guess for a timeframe, but what about TONIGHT...lol

bjrod9
05-14-2011, 06:28 PM
My update was pretty quick until it got to 12%

JBHuskers
05-14-2011, 06:34 PM
Mine's going quick....50% already. This came out of nowhere!

skipwondah33
05-14-2011, 06:34 PM
I'm assuming a good majority of the US is trying to get this update may be the reason it is slow for some or it could just be the speed from the ISP. I haven't tried mine but I will here soon.

JBHuskers
05-14-2011, 06:36 PM
Mine is done....installing now. It only two maybe two minutes.

bjrod9
05-14-2011, 06:37 PM
Mine is done....installing now. It only two maybe two minutes.

Mine Too! So excited for an update lol

JBHuskers
05-14-2011, 06:43 PM
Mine is installed, but I guess until they flip the switch to turn it on, we won't be prompted to change our passwords?

gschwendt
05-14-2011, 06:44 PM
Just FYI, you still can't sign in... I was hoping we could sign in even if just to set our password or something. For one, I need to deactivate my old/broken console so that I can re-active my new console... I can only do that online though :/

I OU a Beatn
05-14-2011, 06:48 PM
Eurogamer confirmed they'll start restoring online around 1AM GMT. Looks like we should be able to get on late tonight!

bjrod9
05-14-2011, 06:49 PM
Eurogamer confirmed they'll start restoring online around 1AM GMT. Looks like we should be able to get on late tonight!

I hope that is true,here we go figuring the time zone thing again.

gschwendt
05-14-2011, 06:51 PM
http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/201105/11-0515E/index.html


RESTORATION OF PLAYSTATIONŽNETWORK AND QRIOCITY SERVICES BEGINS
Increased Security Measures Implemented Before Service Restoration;
Consumer Data Protection a Full-Time, Company-Wide Commitment


Sony Corporation
Sony Computer Entertainment Inc.


Tokyo, May 15, 2011 - Sony Corporation and Sony Computer Entertainment (SCE) announced that Sony Network Entertainment International (SNEI, the company) will today begin a phased restoration by region of PlayStationŽNetwork and Qriocity Services. The phased restoration will be on a country by country basis beginning in the Americas, Europe, Australia, New Zealand, and Middle East.

The first phase of restored services for these countries and regions will include:

Sign-in for PlayStationŽNetwork and Qriocity services, including the resetting of passwords
Restoration of online game-play across PS3 and PSP
Playback rental video content, if within rental period, of PlayStation Network Video Delivery Service on PS3, PSP and MediaGo
Music Unlimited powered by Qriocity, for current subscribers, on PS3 and PC
Access to 3rd party services such as Netflix, Hulu, Vudu and MLB.tv
‘Friends’ category on PS3, including Friends List, Chat Functionality, Trophy Comparison, etc
PlayStation Home

gschwendt
05-14-2011, 07:15 PM
Play On – PSN Restoration Begins Now
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/05/14/play-on-%E2%80%93-psn-restoration-begins-now/
Kazuo Hirai: PlayStation Network Restoration Announcement
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/05/14/kazuo-hirai-playstation-network-relaunch-announcement/

Image should be updated as they get each state online (though not sure if it will be this same image URL or they'll replace it on their blog page)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2087/5719595599_89a219dce4_z.jpg

I OU a Beatn
05-14-2011, 07:16 PM
I was about to post those, but yeah, great news. Should be up any minute now!

psuexv
05-14-2011, 07:22 PM
Doing mine now while I watch the Yanks Red So

steelerfan
05-14-2011, 07:26 PM
Dammit! I need more time to build up my pathetic golfer for TGA! :smh:

gschwendt
05-14-2011, 07:28 PM
Dammit! I need more time to build up my pathetic golfer for TGA! :smh:
Get to work... season starts tomorrow :D

bjrod9
05-14-2011, 07:29 PM
Get to work... season starts tomorrow :D

Get the Bottle ready JB!

steelerfan
05-14-2011, 07:32 PM
Get to work... season starts tomorrow :D

Well, I have a couple ratings up to 60. :D :o

JBHuskers
05-14-2011, 07:36 PM
Get the Bottle ready JB!

Yessir. Gonna pop that bitch tonight I'm hoping lol.

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Iron Dragon
05-14-2011, 08:02 PM
My PS3 would freaking die the night before wouldn't it?

JBHuskers
05-14-2011, 08:05 PM
Is there a hyperlink to the updated image? Or will that image update automatically when you hit refresh here?

JBHuskers
05-14-2011, 08:06 PM
My PS3 would freaking die the night before wouldn't it?

:smh: that totally f'n sucks

gschwendt
05-14-2011, 08:07 PM
The image is on the playstation blog in the first link I posted above... not sure if it will update automatically or not but so far on their blog, it hasn't changed.

Iron Dragon
05-14-2011, 08:08 PM
Over/under 10:00 eastern for the first state.

JBHuskers
05-14-2011, 08:14 PM
...getting this out of the drawer

http://inthemix.on-premise.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/corkscrew.jpg

I OU a Beatn
05-14-2011, 08:19 PM
Over/under 10:00 eastern for the first state.

That's a tough one.

ram29jackson
05-14-2011, 08:24 PM
ok so..If I plug in my new ps3, will I be able to log/sign in in to my old account to get what I had before and than i can change my info if I want?

I never bought anything with a credit card on my psn I just want what ever side stuff I got with my 2011 games...

JeffHCross
05-14-2011, 08:25 PM
Eurogamer confirmed they'll start restoring online around 1AM GMT.

I hope that is true,here we go figuring the time zone thing again.

[Time Zone geek]
1 AM GMT is normally 8 PM EST, or 9 PM EDT.
But, technically, GMT is also a time zone that has Daylight Saving Time of it's own (British Summer Time).
Which reduces it back to 8 PM EDT.
[/geek]

:nod:

steelerfan
05-14-2011, 08:41 PM
[Time Zone geek][/geek]

:D Wow. :smh:

psuexv
05-14-2011, 08:44 PM
Yessir. Gonna pop that bitch tonight I'm hoping lol.

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You talking about the champagne?

psuexv
05-14-2011, 08:46 PM
...getting this out of the drawer

http://inthemix.on-premise.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/corkscrew.jpg

I hope you are not using that for champagne... It'll end up in your throat with all that pressure