GamerLive.TV Footage Leaks NCAA Football 12 Custom Playbooks Information?

[gschwendt]

Thanks to the attentive eyes of forum member WolverineJay (http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/forums/showthread.php?2104-NCAA-Football-12-Draft-Night-Premiere-(Machinima-Sports-Gamespot-amp-GamerLiveTV)&p=53999&viewfull=1#post53999), in a clip from a recent interview between GamerLive.TV (http://gamerlive.tv/) and Washington QB Jake Locker at the NCAA Football 12 Draft Night Premiere (embedded below), we now have an early look at what appears to be the interface for Custom Playbooks in NCAA Football 12. Continue below to see images captured from the footage as well as the full interview. In the comments, let us know what you see, though bear in mind that none of the Community Event attendees will be able to confirm anything at this time.

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Here is the video from which the captured images were taken from. Beginning at 2:49 we start the see the footage.


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[xMrHitStickx904]

incredible find.

[Dr Death]

incredible find.

That's a massive understatement!!! Offense and Defense!!! And... and... AND!!! You can rename your playbook??? I can have my Raider playbook in the game!!! As long as they don't limit us on certain formations, this is going to ####### rock!!!

[CLW]

That's a massive understatement!!! Offense and Defense!!! And... and... AND!!! You can rename your playbook??? I can have my Raider playbook in the game!!! As long as they don't limit us on certain formations, this is going to ####### rock!!!

Yeah this looks GREAT!

I think its pretty silly at this point that our guys here at TGT cannot just tell us about the feature that has been leaked by MULTIPLE sites now in print and now in video. I understand the NDA but at some point EA just needs to say o.k. if/when someone else spills the beans you can fill us in with the rest of the details/answer our questions.

[souljahbill]

Now that it's in the open, the safe money is that it'll be the next feature/blog announced. From the look of the screens, you can do offense and defensive playbooks and you can edit not only the formations but the plays within those formations. Madden will allow it online so I assume NCAA will too. Seems kind of self explanatory to me.

[ArkHogs]

Very nice!! Also on the right of the main menu screen, I see "(something) Coach)".. Maybe Edit Coach?? :)

[xGRIDIRONxGURUx]

Maybe Edit Coach?? :)

Coaching Carousel leak possibly?

"E"

[MCdonnieG]

Coaching Carousel leak possibly?

"E"

:whoa::whoa: This would be golden!!!

Nice find in regards to the Custom Playbook Interface!

[baseballplyrmvp]

teambuilder roster share?? hopefully thats our online roster editor

[souljahbill]

I haven't checked but isn't it possible to edit coaches in '11?

[psusnoop]

This is huge and really should add a ton to everyone's game. Knowing each other styles in Powerhouse this could be really fun to battle against and use some cool strategy against everyone.

[xGRIDIRONxGURUx]

you can edit name but thats it...

"E"

[PDuncanOSU]

I wonder what the limits will be for number of formations and plays. One screen shot above says "Playbook-Boise1" "Type-offense" "Style-Pro" "Formations-28/40" "Plays-374/377"
Another shot has "Playbook-PLBK135" "Type-offense" "Style-Spread" "Formations-34/30" "Plays-358/400"

[xGRIDIRONxGURUx]

im wondering if thats

Formations: UC/SG(Pistol)

Plays: ###/400 (since there is a 400, at least you know you can go that high?)

"E"

[xGRIDIRONxGURUx]

nevermind that cant be it b/c there is a GT Option style book with 34/30 so im not sure what that is as far as the numbers...

"E"

[CLW]

This is huge and really should add a ton to everyone's game. Knowing each other styles in Powerhouse this could be really fun to battle against and use some cool strategy against everyone.

Yeah this REALLY will add a whole new level to the "strategery" and fun in ODs. Hoping that real Chess games can break out in 12.


nevermind that cant be it b/c there is a GT Option style book with 34/30 so im not sure what that is as far as the numbers...

"E"

Yeah I think the biggest ? I have is what are the limits/#s for formations/packages we can use and # of plays.

[Daywalker86]

BeastMode

[souljahbill]

There's going to be A LOT of people spending the time before rosters are available in practice mode.

[xMrHitStickx904]

i will be in practice mode and unranked game HEAVY before I take it online and to OD's, incredible news right here.

[Kingpin32]

I didn't really play a lot of practice mode in this year's game. Next year, I think I'll be spending a lot of time in practice mode now.

[Cipher 8]

So does this mean it's like you choose a base playbook and can only choose from plays already within that playbook or that you can choose a base playbook style i.e. Air Raid, Spread, Pro Style, Multiple, etc and then choose formations from all the different teams playbooks that run that specific style?
:confused:
I hope it's not just from one teams playbook. I wish I could pick and choose plays from a bunch of different playbooks when making my own.

[Jayrah]

I love, love, LOVE that interface (both playbook and overall) as well. I will get used to that very, very quickly! Very slick.

[JBHuskers]

:nod:

[Kingpin32]

So can you guys stilll not go into much details about this leak?

[gschwendt]

So can you guys stilll not go into much details about this leak?
We haven't heard anything new from EA at this point so we're just sticking to what we were told.

[Jayrah]

So can you guys stilll not go into much details about this leak?

Only when EA releases their blog. Hopefully this would happen later today. Most likely next week though imo

[Kingpin32]

We haven't heard anything new from EA at this point so we're just sticking to what we were told.


Only when EA releases their blog. Hopefully this would happen later today. Most likely next week though imo

Hopefully EA does release a blog today though. As much as these pictures show, there's still some pressing questions such as can we use these in ODs.

[razorback44]

Man great stuff like this makes July seem like an ice age away.

[souljahbill]

So does this mean it's like you choose a base playbook and can only choose from plays already within that playbook or that you can choose a base playbook style i.e. Air Raid, Spread, Pro Style, Multiple, etc and then choose formations from all the different teams playbooks that run that specific style?
:confused:
I hope it's not just from one teams playbook. I wish I could pick and choose plays from a bunch of different playbooks when making my own.

It would defeat the purpose to limit it to one school's playbook. Likely, you can either choose a generic "style" playbook (spread, pro, pistol, etc.) or a particular school's playbook (Oregon, Stanford, Nevada, etc.) as your base then adding and subtracting formations and plays from there.

[Dr Death]

It would defeat the purpose to limit it to one school's playbook. Likely, you can either choose a generic "style" playbook (spread, pro, pistol, etc.) or a particular school's playbook (Oregon, Stanford, Nevada, etc.) as your base then adding and subtracting formations and plays from there.

I found it interesting in one of those screen captures, you see SMU - Hawaii - Run & Shoot playbooks all in a row... definitely not in alphabetical order, so I am assuming you can customize them exactly as you want, which it appears someone in that screen was doing w/ all the R&S offenses.

[cdj]

EA also has yet to release part two of the Gameplay Improvements blog from Scantlebury.

[Solidice]

I found it interesting in one of those screen captures, you see SMU - Hawaii - Run & Shoot playbooks all in a row... definitely not in alphabetical order, so I am assuming you can customize them exactly as you want, which it appears someone in that screen was doing w/ all the R&S offenses.


It's kind of hard to see because of the gamerlive.tv logo, but at the top it seems you can filter the playbooks by play style, in this case it was Run and Shoot, which is why only Hawai'i, SMU, and the generic R&S playbook was shown.(Pause the video at 3:01)

[Tarhead10]

Wow....With this being leaked shouldnt be long now before we see a blog... :))

[CLW]

The more I watch this video the more this looks REALLY good.

Questions that still need to be confirmed:

#1 Can we use our custom offensive and defensive playbooks online AND in online dynasties?

#2 How many formations/plays are we limited to for custom offensive/defensive playbooks?

#3 How many custom playbooks can we create?

#4 If you chose a specific team's formation do the package options from that formation automatically come to your custom playbook?

[Twistanutz22]

So does this mean it's like you choose a base playbook and can only choose from plays already within that playbook or that you can choose a base playbook style i.e. Air Raid, Spread, Pro Style, Multiple, etc and then choose formations from all the different teams playbooks that run that specific style?
:confused:
I hope it's not just from one teams playbook. I wish I could pick and choose plays from a bunch of different playbooks when making my own.


It looks like there is an option to either start with a specific team's play book, or choose a style to begin with... OR you can Create a New Playbook and build from scratch.

[souljahbill]

The more I watch this video the more this looks REALLY good.

Questions that still need to be confirmed:

#1 Can we use our custom offensive and defensive playbooks online AND in online dynasties?

#2 How many formations/plays are we limited to for custom offensive/defensive playbooks?

#3 How many custom playbooks can we create?

#4 If you chose a specific team's formation do the package options from that formation automatically come to your custom playbook?

Questions 2 & 4, I can understand the curiosity but not 1 & 3. Custom playbooks is a back of the box feature. Why would they limit it to Play Now and Offline Dynasty? The forums would go BESERK if that were the case. I think it's already confirmed that you can use custom books online in Madden so I see no reason why you can't do it in NCAA. I'm sure you'll be able to make multiple playbooks if you want (one of the screens has a "Create New Playbook" option in it similar to "Create New Dynasty" currently looks in NCAA 11). Obviously, you'll only have access to one in a game but if you can have multiple dynasties saved, I'm sure you can have multiple playbooks saved.

[JBHuskers]

In time fellas, in time :)

[Twistanutz22]

screw you, jb!!!! :D

[CLW]

Questions 2 & 4, I can understand the curiosity but not 1 & 3. Custom playbooks is a back of the box feature. Why would they limit it to Play Now and Offline Dynasty? The forums would go BESERK if that were the case. I think it's already confirmed that you can use custom books online in Madden so I see no reason why you can't do it in NCAA. I'm sure you'll be able to make multiple playbooks if you want (one of the screens has a "Create New Playbook" option in it similar to "Create New Dynasty" currently looks in NCAA 11). Obviously, you'll only have access to one in a game but if you can have multiple dynasties saved, I'm sure you can have multiple playbooks saved.

In Re: Why #1 EA has a track record of questionable decisions with "back of the box features". One need go no further than No Salary Cap/FA in Madden OFs as an example. EA gave some lame excuse of people wouldn't want free agency/salary cap in their online franchise. They COULD in theory state, "we didn't think people would want to allow users to use custom playbooks in online dynasty..."

In Re: Why #3: EA currently limits us on the ODs we can run why not make some $ by only allowing 1 custom playbook (either offense or defense) and then charge you if you want to create more via DLC.

You are PROBABLY right on both accounts. I'd just like "official" confirmation. I'd put the odds of EA totally botching #1 or #3 at <10%.

[JBHuskers]

screw you, jb!!!! :D

It's not a NCAA info season with my teasing ;)

[CLW]

Another ? unanswered:

#5 - If we bring over both linked plays from one playboook/formation will they still be linked as plays that set each other up in our Custom playbook?

[Twistanutz22]

Another ? unanswered:

#5 - If we bring over both linked plays from one playboook/formation will they still be linked as plays that set each other up in our Custom playbook?

Great Question!


I would think that the plays themselves are programmed to be "linked" to their counterpart... But I'm not a programmer, and truly don't know how they do that... But I would think that the linked plays will remain linked if you add them to your Custom PB

[gschwendt]

It's not a NCAA info season with my teasing ;)
That's the difference between you & me... I try to spread as much information as I possibly can and you try to hide as much information as you possibly can. :rolleyes:

[Pig Bomb]

schwiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnngggg!!!!

[JBHuskers]

That's the difference between you & me... I try to spread as much information as I possibly can and you try to hide as much information as you possibly can. :rolleyes:

Nothing to spread on this yet ;)

[razorback44]

#4 If you chose a specific team's formation do the package options from that formation automatically come to your custom playbook?
This is a very good question.

[Iron Dragon]

:)):)):))

Yesyesyesyesyes.

[Dr Death]

Wow....With this being leaked shouldnt be long now before we see a blog... :))

I don't know that this is really leaked though... so far, TGT is the only forum I've seen this on. I know EA reads OS, that was evident in their video where they were updating FSU's field and at least one person from EA posts there. Does EA follow this board too?

And a question I want to get out in case I forget it later... and those who may know can hopefully answer when the green light is given... but when you create a Custom Playbook can you then go to Team Builder and select your Custom Playbook as your TB team playbook? Or do you have to select a standard PB and then change it once you import your team to the game?

[gschwendt]

I don't know that this is really leaked though... so far, TGT is the only forum I've seen this on. I know EA reads OS, that was evident in their video where they were updating FSU's field and at least one person from EA posts there. Does EA follow this board too?
People from EA do read this board from time to time.

[cdj]

I don't know that this is really leaked though... so far, TGT is the only forum I've seen this on.

That just shows we are committed to getting you guys the latest news. :P

At the Community Events, we don't get to see much (if any) web related aspects (TeamBuilder, Dynasty Wire, etc.) so we will be learning most of that when you guys do.

[CLW]

That just shows we are committed to getting you guys the latest news. :P

At the Community Events, we don't get to see much (if any) web related aspects (TeamBuilder, Dynasty Wire, etc.) so we will be learning most of that when you guys do.


FYI - the images at least were on OS and TF this morning. I believe on OS it was somewhere in their epic length NCAA 12 "News"/Summary Thread and the same at TF. Now I do believe that TGT is the only one that has a specific thread on this video/leak. However, custom playbooks should be known by just about anyone following the news even remotely closely.

Its been in ESPN/OS preview articles and now this.

[ram29jackson]

That just shows we are committed to getting you guys the latest news. :P

At the Community Events, we don't get to see much (if any) web related aspects (TeamBuilder, Dynasty Wire, etc.) so we will be learning most of that when you guys do.

hopefully there is something about teambuilder to be learned ?

[souljahbill]

hopefully there is something about teambuilder to be learned ?

Well, in one of those pics, there's a tab for Teambuilder Roster Share. Don't know what that exactly entails but there's something new with it besides adding Akron's(?) stadium. Fingers crossed for at least 1 more pair of pants, team colored shoes, and a generic dome stadium.

[I OU a Beatn]

I like. Has there been any word yet on whether or not they'll be usable online is competitive games? I know it's going to potentially make playing against random even worse when they can have all their money plays, but I'm more than willing to deal with it if I'm allowed to fully customize a playbook the way I want.

[souljahbill]

I like. Has there been any word yet on whether or not they'll be usable online is competitive games? I know it's going to potentially make playing against random even worse when they can have all their money plays, but I'm more than willing to deal with it if I'm allowed to fully customize a playbook the way I want.

I don't play online so I have no room to talk but from what I can tell, a cheeser only uses the same 3-5 plays when playing anyway so having custom playbooks wouldn't benefit them too much, I would think.

[JeffHCross]

Only when EA releases their blog. Hopefully this would happen later today. Most likely next week though imo

Hopefully EA does release a blog today though. As much as these pictures show, there's still some pressing questions such as can we use these in ODs.
FWIW, basing this on experience rather than first-hand information, EA has seemed to, historically, stick to their marketing plans regardless of leaks or release of information by third-parties. I'd imagine that would be the case here. It being talked about in public may not change the time table.


I don't know that this is really leaked though... so far, TGT is the only forum I've seen this on.Other sites are talking about it too ... some of them just don't have entire threads devoted to it, so it may not be so obvious.

[xMrHitStickx904]

talk about installing an offense... this might take at least a good week. I assume it will be allowed online, seeing that Madden 12 will allow them online.

[SpreadOption]

talk about installing an offense... this might take at least a good week. I assume it will be allowed online, seeing that Madden 12 will allow them online.

It will probably take me two to three weeks of play testing and building. I'm probably gonna spend the first few days looking at all the default books, then going from there.

And for the team builder thing, think it will be that we can edit them on the xbox after they are created from the site and downloaded?

[oweb26]

For me its probably gonna last something like 6months of building before I her my playbooks the way I want them

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[ram29jackson]

Well, in one of those pics, there's a tab for Teambuilder Roster Share. Don't know what that exactly entails but there's something new with it besides adding Akron's(?) stadium. Fingers crossed for at least 1 more pair of pants, team colored shoes, and a generic dome stadium.


teambuilder roster share? very Interesting


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IHAZeqwQvA

[steelerfan]

People from EA do read this board from time to time.

That's being a little modest, IMO. I talked to several devs who pointed to specific comments and topics on TGT. I don't think we have 8/16 community reps from TGT by accident. The Holy Trinity of TGT has done an unbelievable job in putting this site together and breaking down barriers between the community and the devs. Of course, none of it would be possible without a willing EA. EA has gone far beyond reasonable expectations by having so much community involvement this year. They have really shown a commitment to the community and they should be applauded for it!

[Deuce]

Pretty awesome stuff. I kinda wonder why they didn't put this online like Teambuilder? Would be nice to create a playbook while at work! :)

[souljahbill]

Pretty awesome stuff. I kinda wonder why they didn't put this online like Teambuilder? Would be nice to create a playbook while at work! :)

Be glad it isn't. Every online feature has to be activated via online pass and is limited (1 OD, 12 TB teams). With it being on the disc, you can probably make as many books as you have space on you HDD.

[oweb26]

I see what you step saying soulja but couldn't u create multiple teambuilder teams.

You are going to have to use the online pass anyway,I too wish it was online even if it would only let me tweak the custom Playbook I am using. But I also know they wont give you both ways online and on disc.

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[Deuce]

Be glad it isn't. Every online feature has to be activated via online pass and is limited (1 OD, 12 TB teams). With it being on the disc, you can probably as many books as you have space on you HDD.

Good point...would be nice if we could tweak them though.

Any ideas on Teambuilder roster share? Only thing I can think of is being able to edit rosters on teambuilder then share. Instead of editing rosters on a console then sharing we can have rosters prior to the game coming out??

[souljahbill]

What would be a great scenario is that you have access to practice mode from the custom playbook menu. That way, you can set your book up, run some plays with it, and if you see something you don't like, you can back out straight into the editor part to make adjustments.

[psusnoop]

That's being a little modest, IMO. I talked to several devs who pointed to specific comments and topics on TGT. I don't think we have 8/16 community reps from TGT by accident. The Holy Trinity of TGT has done an unbelievable job in putting this site together and breaking down barriers between the community and the devs. Of course, none of it would be possible without a willing EA. EA has gone far beyond reasonable expectations by having so much community involvement this year. They have really shown a commitment to the community and they should be applauded for it!

Missing a clapping emiticon. But the thought is there!

[jaymo76]

Wow! I am impressed by the depth of the feature. I have wanted custom playbooks for years and I would have been fine with the PS2 format. However, this will absolutely blow away last gens custom playbooks. Good on ya EA!!!:up:

[coogrfan]

Well, in one of those pics, there's a tab for Teambuilder Roster Share. Don't know what that exactly entails but there's something new with it besides adding Akron's(?) stadium. Fingers crossed for at least 1 more pair of pants, team colored shoes, and a generic dome stadium.

Solidice had some interesting thoughts on this topic over at OS:


my guesses are either:

1. It's just the normal roster share that been there the last few years, just with the teambuilder tag on it.

2. they added the ability to do rosters of the default teams online through teambuilder. (my emphasis-coogrfan)

3. added the ability to share only the roster of teambuilder teams?(not really sure why it would be this though)

4. something else I can't think of right now.


Please, pleeeeease let it be option #2. Being able to have rosters ready to go on release day would be awesome.

[ram29jackson]

{. they added the ability to do rosters of the default teams online through teambuilder. (my emphasis-coogrfan)}


?sorry, but i really dont know what that literally means ? whats the bonus for having that ?

[Escobar]

sorry, but i really dont know what that literally means ? whats the bonus for having that?

That means you can edit the rosters easier and faster from the computer instead of doing them on the console.

[ram29jackson]

That means you can edit the rosters easier and faster from the computer instead of doing them on the console.

in essence we already had that...?we could edit names and ratings before what part can we edit now that we couldnt before ? I am not trying to dumb or mean,what exactly is going on with this ?

[souljahbill]

in essence we already had that...?we could edit names and ratings before what part can we edit now that we couldnt before ? I am not trying to dumb or mean,what exactly is going on with this ?

You know how you have to wait a week after the game is out to get names for all the players? That's because people have to type everything on the system which is slow. With it being over the internet, EA can release the base roster 2 days before release on a website and every player can be named and ready to go on Day 1.

[SmoothPancakes]

You know how you have to wait a week after the game is out to get names for all the players? That's because people have to type everything on the system which is slow. With it being over the internet, EA can release the base roster 2 days before release on a website and every player can be named and ready to go on Day 1.

souljah beat me to it. What they're talking about Ram, is the actual in game rosters, the actual teams. Instead of having multiple people spending a week+ day and night knocking out team rosters, changing all those numbers to actual names, they'd be able to do it online and would be able to knock out every team and have the entire game of rosters done in a matter of a couple days.

[ram29jackson]

You know how you have to wait a week after the game is out to get names for all the players? That's because people have to type everything on the system which is slow. With it being over the internet, EA can release the base roster 2 days before release on a website and every player can be named and ready to go on Day 1.

ok, but haha, it really doesnt benefit me then. Just the guys who make rosters that we take later haha.

I'm not saying its not cool and all,it is of course. I would prefer news on the creative end of it myself though

[baseballplyrmvp]

ok, but haha, it really doesnt benefit me then. Just the guys who make rosters that we take later haha.

I'm not saying its not cool and all,it is of course. I would prefer news on the creative end of it myself though

i think it'd open up a lot of creativity for od's now. on ncaa09, i did a superstar draft dynasty od, and it was a lot of work writing down all of the ratings/info for players and then swapping them onto our 1* teams. now, hopefully i'll be able to do this all online.

[JeffHCross]

Well, in one of those pics, there's a tab for Teambuilder Roster Share.Not only did I not notice that in the screen shot, but I didn't even notice your quote until ram quoted you. Wow. Powers of observation for the loss.

[JBHuskers]

Missing a clapping emiticon. But the thought is there!

Good idea...I might have to find one.

[psusnoop]

Sweet JB. I should have added that in the other thread just fit there.

Yes bein able to do rosters over on teambuilder would be really sweet. It would generate more accurate ratings, names, and flexibility to change certain players that get suspended or whatever after EA puts there generic rosters out.

[TheTruth43]

I'm confused, is the max play amount 400 like Madden or 377?

[souljahbill]

I'm confused, is the max play amount 400 or 377?

No way of knowing until the blog. The amount of plays may depend on your "style" and formations selected.

[ram29jackson]

souljah beat me to it. What they're talking about Ram, is the actual in game rosters, the actual teams. Instead of having multiple people spending a week+ day and night knocking out team rosters, changing all those numbers to actual names, they'd be able to do it online and would be able to knock out every team and have the entire game of rosters done in a matter of a couple days.


w2hat you are saying makes sense, but since I never made a complete game roster , I still need clarity..

last year, teambuilder had rosters you could edit before the game came out, so, what part has changed?

last year steelerfan made rosters ( he had an advanced copy- if I remember correctly ?)

last year you had to change rosters on your PS3/xbox in game in order for it to be in a locker for people to get it ?

...ok, as i'm typing this I realize you would have to create 120 teams to do that.....but i dont understand what they changed to make it easier?

if you guys are reading this thinking i'm a thick head haha, hey, at least i'm asking....?

I'm the creative dweeb here, not the logic dweeb

[SmoothPancakes]

w2hat you are saying makes sense, but since I never made a complete game roster , I still need clarity..

last year, teambuilder had rosters you could edit before the game came out, so, what part has changed?

last year steelerfan made rosters ( he had an advanced copy- if I remember correctly ?)

last year you had to change rosters on your PS3/xbox in game in order for it to be in a locker for people to get it ?

...ok, as i'm typing this I realize you would have to create 120 teams to do that.....but i dont understand what they changed to make it easier?

if you guys are reading this thinking i'm a thick head haha, hey, at least i'm asking....?

I'm the creative dweeb here, not the logic dweeb

That was when you were creating new teams. What some of us are wondering, and hoping could be true, is the actual in game rosters being able to be edited via the Teambuilder website. So instead of having to create all 120 teams like you said to do rosters online, you'd be able to take the actual rosters in the game and edit them via the Teambuilder site, and then load them into your game via the Teambuilder Roster Share menu.

Now, granted, this is all nothing but all of us theorizing that this is this case, when it may not be. But if it were to be fact, those creating rosters for 360 and PS3, would be able to have rosters done in only a couple days by doing them via PC, as opposed to the usual week or more that it can take to name all of the rosters via the console interface. Again, it's all theory and hoping right now. We have no idea what actually will be done until it comes up in a future blog.

[CLW]

With the Same Keller et al. lawsuits I HIGHLY doubt EA is going to really promote the ability to name the players in the game with a new feature/addition. Honestly, we are lucky that we can still edit the names of players in the console (I am presuming this to still be the case but I could imagine a scenario where real life rosters are GONE in NCAA 12).

[SmoothPancakes]

With the Same Keller et al. lawsuits I HIGHLY doubt EA is going to really promote the ability to name the players in the game with a new feature/addition. Honestly, we are lucky that we can still edit the names of players in the console (I am presuming this to still be the case but I could imagine a scenario where real life rosters are GONE in NCAA 12).

That is a good point. Just a couple of us theorizing and hoping right now. :) But you do raise an excellent point. Depending on what happens with those lawsuits, being able to name the rosters may very well become a "thing of the past" in future editions. That's something that we'll have to wait and see what happens and hope that EA doesn't take that ability out of the game.

[xGRIDIRONxGURUx]

editing rosters will never be out of the game... EA makes a character, then by giving us Team Builder and maximizing "gear" "hair" and other things, allows us to edit them the way we want... adding a guys name is what WE DO, while its not the absolute correct term, but it closely fits with plausible deniability... meaning that they create the product and kind of know we do it, but ignore it and just say "the consumer makes the character look like (insert name here)"

i think in the future expect very bland characters out of the box with the ability to edit them fully to YOUR liking, thus maybe the "Team Builder Roster Share"... who knows...

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[psusnoop]

That second paragraph is exactly what I'm thinking. It would give EA an easy out while still giving the users control do name players how they so desire and making it easier to do so in the process.

[CLW]

editing rosters will never be out of the game... EA makes a character, then by giving us Team Builder and maximizing "gear" "hair" and other things, allows us to edit them the way we want... adding a guys name is what WE DO, while its not the absolute correct term, but it closely fits with plausible deniability... meaning that they create the product and kind of know we do it, but ignore it and just say "the consumer makes the character look like (insert name here)"

i think in the future expect very bland characters out of the box with the ability to edit them fully to YOUR liking, thus maybe the "Team Builder Roster Share"... who knows...

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So.... essentially the "Napster defense". How did that turn out again? Just sayin'

Moreover, the Keller/O'Bannon lawsuits aren't only about "names" being editable. Keller et al. are arguing that using the correct Height/Weight/#/Hometown/etc... is an improper use of their "likeness" without their consent which entitles them (and every current and former NCAA athlete) to compensation.

I've looked into this heavily and I think you guys should start preparing for the day when the rosters are completely generic and CANNOT be edited. UNLESS: #1 EA/NCAA requires the athletes to sign a waiver allowing the use of their "likeness" and/or #2 NCAA allows EA to pay the athletes for their "likeness" to be used in the game.

Obama will become a conservative Republican before #2 happens so you better pray for #1.

[ram29jackson]

While it may have multiple meanings, it dawned on me what -Roster Share may actually be.

you know how in the past people complained about not being able to mess with the rosters when you took a created team from someone...

I think what it is , is,.. you can now have the rosters from the created team you took and
either from your console or teambuilder change the ratings and stuff to your liking.

it makes sense...

I always wished teambuilder would have had its own forums so people could communicate with guys about teams they made and find teams they may have wanted.

it seems the guys that get the most downloads were the ones who just made all time teams. While guys who made a creative uniform or something just get lost in the shuffle.
the only team I ever took from someone was a guy who made a team with Robert E Lee on the helmet haha. It had the right mix of humor and realism. While everyone else is just some kid who slapped some colors on with a weak trendy design. But if you found something you liked you cant really communicate with the guy to tell them thats cool unless you have the same console to find him.

and for the record , I kept the TGT site team on my console the entire time. At least i'm pretty sure I did..?

[souljahbill]

While it may have multiple meanings, it dawned on me what -Roster Share may actually be.

you know how in the past people complained about not being able to mess with the rosters when you took a created team from someone...

I think what it is , is,.. you can now have the rosters from the created team you took and
either from your console or teambuilder change the ratings and stuff to your liking.

it makes sense...

I always wished teambuilder would have had its own forums so people could communicate with guys about teams they made and find teams they may have wanted.

it seems the guys that get the most downloads were the ones who just made all time teams. While guys who made a creative uniform or something just get lost in the shuffle.
the only team I ever took from someone was a guy who made a team with Robert E Lee on the helmet haha. It had the right mix of humor and realism. While everyone else is just some kid who slapped some colors on with a weak trendy design. But if you found something you liked you cant really communicate with the guy to tell them thats cool unless you have the same console to find him.

and for the record , I kept the TGT site team on my console the entire time. At least i'm pretty sure I did..?

To be honest, this is what I assumed myself. The ability to edit the rosters of TB teams we download.

I also still have the TGT TB team.

[JeffHCross]

it seems the guys that get the most downloads were the ones who just made all time teams. While guys who made a creative uniform or something just get lost in the shuffle.Not really. Everyone got lost in the shuffle. Last time I looked at Teambuilder, the ones mentioned on the front page as "Most Popular" were still the teams that hadn't been touched since NCAA 10. And there's a reason for that -- every time you re-uploaded your team, your download total got reset. Makes it kind of hard for guys that are tinkering with their team to ever get "popular". The entire system is flawed when it relies on downloads to determine popularity.

[jaymo76]

I can't help but wonder if teambuilder's popularity is dropping? It was a huge success the first season and every board on every forum had a million and one threads. Heck, even I used a TB team in NCAA 10. However, since 10, just for fun I still create teams but I have not used one since and have zero intention of using one again.

[ram29jackson]

No way of knowing until the blog. The amount of plays may depend on your "style" and formations selected.

377 or 400 may have to do with stickied special teams plays

[ram29jackson]

I can't help but wonder if teambuilder's popularity is dropping? It was a huge success the first season and every board on every forum had a million and one threads. Heck, even I used a TB team in NCAA 10. However, since 10, just for fun I still create teams but I have not used one since and have zero intention of using one again.

um,..that would be a -no-..and dont even go that route.

This had better be a common staple for years..!

[jaymo76]

um,..that would be a -no-..and dont even go that route.

This had better be a common staple for years..!

No doubt it will be in the game forever and a day. I'm just saying that the polish on teambuilder has dwindled a little bit. However, if they announce some big additions for 12 then teambuilder could gain serious momentum. Importing teambuilders for generic FCS would bring me back to this feature quickly!!!

[ram29jackson]

No doubt it will be in the game forever and a day. I'm just saying that the polish on teambuilder has dwindled a little bit. However, if they announce some big additions for 12 then teambuilder could gain serious momentum. Importing teambuilders for generic FCS would bring me back to this feature quickly!!!

it would be nice if they made an effort to alter some of it. I dont think theyve bothered to correct designs that dont really work.

[morsdraconis]

Teambuilder is great for one thing: creating a REALLY shitty team and working on building it up.

[CLW]

Teambuilder is great for one thing: creating a REALLY shitty team and working on building it up.

And getting the 2 star program to sign 5 star QB trophy. :nod:

[SmoothPancakes]

And getting the 2 star program to sign 5 star QB trophy. :nod:

Ugh, I hated trying to get the achievement for that through regular methods. Took forever and multiple tries.

[xGRIDIRONxGURUx]

So.... essentially the "Napster defense". How did that turn out again? Just sayin'

Moreover, the Keller/O'Bannon lawsuits aren't only about "names" being editable. Keller et al. are arguing that using the correct Height/Weight/#/Hometown/etc... is an improper use of their "likeness" without their consent which entitles them (and every current and former NCAA athlete) to compensation.

I've looked into this heavily and I think you guys should start preparing for the day when the rosters are completely generic and CANNOT be edited. UNLESS: #1 EA/NCAA requires the athletes to sign a waiver allowing the use of their "likeness" and/or #2 NCAA allows EA to pay the athletes for their "likeness" to be used in the game.

Obama will become a conservative Republican before #2 happens so you better pray for #1.

i dont see how its anything like napster... the only thing i see happening in forms of change is that we may in the future just get a generic roster with all players wearing #00 and it be "QB1 #00" and with no player model at all, and we all have to assign player models ourselves... so that it is removed from EA's hands... and is simply the consumer creating his "favorite college team" thats the only thing i can imagine it changing to...

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[Jayrah]

i dont see how its anything like napster... the only thing i see happening in forms of change is that we may in the future just get a generic roster with all players wearing #00 and it be "QB1 #00" and with no player model at all, and we all have to assign player models ourselves... so that it is removed from EA's hands... and is simply the consumer creating his "favorite college team" thats the only thing i can imagine it changing to...

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Yeah the ability to edit will always be there regardless, because the argument isn't that people can edit, it's that EA is using the likeness of current players out of the box. The question will be how much will we have to edit? Player models will be there too imo, but they will be randomly assigned through position type as recruits are now.

In the end Keller is an upset coulda been who wants $$$ without having to work for it. My question still remains, where was this complaint when he was IN COLLEGE?

[JBHuskers]

I definitely hope a blog comes out this week. I wanna talk about suggestions and improvements we brought up...and some features we really like about it. No idea if there will be one soon or not though.

[souljahbill]

I definitely hope a blog comes out this week. I wanna talk about suggestions and improvements we brought up...and some features we really like about it. No idea if there will be one soon or not though.

I hope that whenever it does come out, it's something new and not a deeper explanation of collisions or zone defense.

[jaymo76]

I hope that whenever it does come out, it's something new and not a deeper explanation of collisions or zone defense.

I NEED new info. After last week going one day without new info drives me up the wall and down the other side. Just tell me about dynasty mode...

[gschwendt]

I NEED new info. After last week going one day without new info drives me up the wall and down the other side. Just tell me about dynasty mode...
Don't tell anyone I told you this but...
There is in fact a dynasty mode in NCAA12

[JBHuskers]

Don't tell anyone I told you this but...
There is in fact a dynasty mode in NCAA12

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuedqjPFAl8#t=6s

[Jayrah]

Don't tell anyone I told you this but...
There is in fact a dynasty mode in NCAA12

Hate you!

[psusnoop]

Don't tell anyone I told you this but...
There is in fact a dynasty mode in NCAA12

:)):)):D

[souljahbill]

I hope that whenever it does come out, it's something new and not a deeper explanation of collisions or zone defense.

I just saw a new video on the NCAA Facebook page and what do you know, it was a deeper explanation of zone coverage.

[steelerfan]

I just saw a new video on the NCAA Facebook page and what do you know, it was a deeper explanation of zone coverage.

What the hell do you want them to release??? WE ALREADY KNOW EVERYTHING!!!


Oh, wait, no. That's just some of us. My bad. Carry on...

[CLW]

What the hell do you want them to release??? WE ALREADY KNOW EVERYTHING!!!


Oh, wait, no. That's just some of us. My bad. Carry on...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_2sZIvrb0Y&feature=related

[souljahbill]

What the hell do you want them to release??? WE ALREADY KNOW EVERYTHING!!!


Oh, wait, no. That's just some of us. My bad. Carry on...

Taken straight from the the gif thread (http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/forums/showthread.php?2136-The-GIF-Thread-NSFW):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v242/eraser851/funny/FU.gif:P:D

[JBHuskers]

Glad to see the GIF thread being put to good use :D

[souljahbill]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_2sZIvrb0Y&feature=related

Oh, Kurt Angle, and the "You Suck" chants, how I miss thee. I went to a show where Kurt Angle wrestled and chanting "You Suck" to his intro theme is even more fun then it looks.

[JBHuskers]

It was great when they added Austin's "what?!" after it too :D

[ram29jackson]

Oh, Kurt Angle, and the "You Suck" chants, how I miss thee. I went to a show where Kurt Angle wrestled and chanting "You Suck" to his intro theme is even more fun then it looks.

the more important question is - why are you going to fake wrestling shows in the first place ?

[ram29jackson]

What the hell do you want them to release??? WE ALREADY KNOW EVERYTHING!!!


Oh, wait, no. That's just some of us. My bad. Carry on...


go back to your room again >>>>>>

[souljahbill]

the more important question is - why are you going to fake wrestling shows in the first place ?

The outcomes are pre-determined and some punches and kicks are exaggerated for effect but please show me how falling 10-15 feet without dying or getting hit in the head with a metal chair is fake.

[ram29jackson]

The outcomes are pre-determined and some punches and kicks are exaggerated for effect but please show me how falling 10-15 feet without dying or getting hit in the head with a metal chair is fake.

because they practiced doing it

[souljahbill]

because they practiced doing it

There isn't enough "practice" in the world that won't make the bumps they take not hurt. Can it be minimized? Yes, but you're batsh*t crazy if you think it's all fake. Tell Stone Cold and Edge that their neck injuries are fake and I bet they'll have no problem showing you how fake it isn't.

Also, because this subject is completely off-topic from this thread, I'm not going to comment on the matter any longer. I agree that there are elements that are fake but no way will I belittle the real wear and tear they put on their bodies.

[ram29jackson]

I never edited a playbook before..dont know if i'll start now ?

[souljahbill]

I never edited a playbook before..dont know if i'll start now ?

Did you place last gen NCAA?

[WolverineJay]

I got amped up when I first noticed the new main screen and mini-walkthrough of custom playbooks Friday night. I immediately started looking at the formations and plays I would like to have in my many different playbooks. Thanks gschwendt for getting all those screenshots up, they helped me out a ton no more having to pause or re-watch the video just in case I missed something.

[ram29jackson]

Did you place last gen NCAA?

yes

[souljahbill]

yes

Did you not use custom playbooks last gen?

[ram29jackson]

No haha

[jaymo76]

Ram, you might want to stay away from the custom books. They are like drugs... highly addictive. Start off with a formation of two and next thing you know, your on the PS3 for six hours + pulling out your hair and what gets excluded.

[ram29jackson]

I hate to sound lazy or dumb but what remember from the first time is I couldnt figure out how to add-keep the add and continue before saving so the playbook had hardly anything in it. I couldnt figure out the button commands so I just gave up.

now, i think it would make more since to me. I wouldnt mind having every 2 WR 2 TE and 1 back possible..and every 1 wr,2 te and 2 back set possible. .... I cant even think of a playbook or team that uses alot of 1 WR, 2 TE, 1 HB, and 1 FB..?

[Jayrah]

I hate to sound lazy or dumb but what remember from the first time is I couldnt figure out how to add-keep the add and continue before saving so the playbook had hardly anything in it. I couldnt figure out the button commands so I just gave up.

now, i think it would make more since to me. I wouldnt mind having every 2 WR 2 TE and 1 back possible..and every 1 wr,2 te and 2 back set possible. .... I cant even think of a playbook or team that uses alot of 1 WR, 2 TE, 1 HB, and 1 FB..?

Idaho uses this set quite a bit irl. Not sure if the game reflects that in their pb however. Didn't use it as much with Jackson last year, but when Woolridge was there, that was a primary set.

[Jayrah]

Ram, you might want to stay away from the custom books. They are like drugs... highly addictive. Start off with a formation of two and next thing you know, your on the PS3 for six hours + pulling out your hair and what gets excluded.

That's why I never did them too much lol. However I think I would appreciate the coaching angle now in my OD. I hope you can save MULTIPLE pb's so that you can work on one during your season and implement it later.

[xGRIDIRONxGURUx]

from the look of the one screenshot at the loading screen, it shows 2 custom books and then the standard "Create new offense/defense" so i ASSUME, that it is possible to do so...

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[JeffHCross]

because they practiced doing itNo.

Well, maybe the steel chair. But gravity is still gravity is still gravity.

[jaymo76]

That's why I never did them too much lol. However I think I would appreciate the coaching angle now in my OD. I hope you can save MULTIPLE pb's so that you can work on one during your season and implement it later.

If it's the same as Madden you can. I read that you will be able to have multiple custom playbooks for Madden 12.

[xGRIDIRONxGURUx]

If it's the same as Madden you can. I read that you will be able to have multiple custom playbooks for Madden 12.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5265/5669046516_20115aae63_o.jpg

that picture from the 1st page shows 2 playbooks at the loading screen for the custom playbook menu... so... i just assumed that just like RTG/OD/OFD you just scroll to the one you want to select and then load it to edit it...

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