Random College Football Discussion Thread

[baseballplyrmvp]

oregon's unis tonight are ugly as hell.....their cheerleaders' unis, though, are damn nice :nod::hump:

[ram29jackson]

No... that's seriously $10,000 dropping from the rafters.
http://www.rantsports.com/ncaa-football/2012/10/05/georgia-state-football-planning-10k-money-drop-at-georgia-dome/

not actual money..? another article said its more like student vouchers they dropped

[JeffHCross]

their cheerleaders' unis, though, are damn nice :nod::hump:The sports bra and spanky variety? Or something new? Either way, I'm sure I'd agree :D

[baseballplyrmvp]

The sports bra and spanky variety? Or something new? Either way, I'm sure I'd agree :D

i'll try and find a screen grab

edit: here ya go

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn284/baseballplyrmvp/oregoncheer.jpg

they're wearing jackets in the second half

[bdoughty]

Are you thinking of Georgia Southern? Georgia State has only been playing since 2010 and has gone 6-5 and 3-8.

Doh. I got my states and directionals mixed up. I think I would rather have Georgia Southern move up.

[baseballplyrmvp]

i'm watching the p12 network this morning and they're showing highlights of the arizona game, specifically focusing on rich rod's antics on the sidelines. lol that guy is gonna explode one of these days....literally; his head will actually blow up into a million pieces.

[JeffHCross]

I think I would rather have Georgia Southern move up.Agreed. I realize that there is criteria for teams to move to FBS (like attendance, seating, etc), but I also think "has been playing football for X years" needs to be enforced. Though I also know that if G-South wanted to move up, they would.

[gschwendt]

On 9/28, GSU students voted for a fee to encourage a move to FBS
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2012/9/28/3424600/georgia-southern-football-fbs

My understanding was that earlier this year they were struggling to decide whether to move up or not. Not sure whether I like the idea of GA So & GA St both being in the Sun Belt.

[JeffHCross]

My understanding was that earlier this year they were struggling to decide whether to move up or not. Not surprised. App's been going through the same. Though I can't imagine there being a conference home for G-South and App, unless the Sun Belt wants to expand.

I am slightly concerned we're going to get to a day when FBS is freaking huge, like DI basketball.

[JeffHCross]

mors?


Nick Arthur ‏@NarthurD
Words can't explain Morgantown last night. I witnessed a man in a Spider Man costume ask a police officer what he could do to help.

[steelerfan]

mors?

:D

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[baseballplyrmvp]

lol

[morsdraconis]

mors?

:D

That dude is my hero.

[bdoughty]

The Ohio State marching Band for the win last night. At 6:00 in a marching band actually blew my mind.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAzzbrFgcUw

[souljahbill]

The Ohio State marching Band for the win last night. At 6:00 in a marching band actually blew my mind.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAzzbrFgcUw

Now THAT was impressive. The part with Epona the horse was incredible!

It's also crazy that I've never played a Halo game but I recognized the theme instantly.

[morsdraconis]

Holy fuckin' shit, that was AMAZING. Epona was incredible. Damn!

[JeffHCross]

The Ohio State marching Band for the win last night. At 6:00 in a marching band actually blew my mind.Fuck yeah! I knew someone would put up a video eventually, but I didn't expect it yet. Thanks!


Now THAT was impressive.

Holy fuckin' shit, that was AMAZING.One of the best parts of being a Buckeye. Honestly. I love our band.

Actually, I take that back. One of the best parts is that this doesn't surprise me at all. The horse was amazing (and beyond anything I'd ever seen, personally), but other than that ... I'm accustomed to incredible performances from our band.

[SmoothPancakes]

Holy. Shit. :o

[baseballplyrmvp]

if they put that in ncaa, i think i'd stop and watch it a couple of times.

[gschwendt]

Decent read if you're curious where Michael Dyer is these days...
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2012/10/09/michael-dyer-auburn-arkansas-state-arkansas-baptist/1622771/

[AustinWolv]

Jeff, gotta give credit where due, the marching band performance was excellent. And I think marching band is ghey most of the time.

[JeffHCross]

Jeff, gotta give credit where due, the marching band performance was excellent.A tip of the hat to you, sir.

It's been honestly impressive to see how many rival fans have said "I hate Ohio State, but ...". Very cool to see the band get the recognition they deserve.

[gschwendt]

Arkansas is already starting their coaching search
http://espn.go.com/college-football/view.php?id=54316 (http://fakeconvos.com/view.php?id=54316)

[baseballplyrmvp]

arkansas is already starting their coaching search
http://espn.go.com/college-football/view.php?id=54316 (http://fakeconvos.com/view.php?id=54316)

bazinga! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[JBHuskers]

RIP Beano Cook.

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/366906/Beano_Cook.jpg

[steelerfan]

RIP

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[bdoughty]

Good old Mike Leach

Some of them have had kind of this zombie-like, go through the motions, everything is like how it's always been, that's how it'll always be. Some of them quite honestly have an empty-corpse quality. That's not pleasant to say or pleasant to think about, but that's a fact.
” -- Mike Leach on a lack of leadership from Washington State's seniors

[baseballplyrmvp]

Good old Mike Leach

Some of them have had kind of this zombie-like, go through the motions, everything is like how it's always been, that's how it'll always be. Some of them quite honestly have an empty-corpse quality. That's not pleasant to say or pleasant to think about, but that's a fact.
” -- Mike Leach on a lack of leadership from Washington State's seniors

one of the things that i love about him as a coach. he doesnt care if he pisses people off, he tells it exactly how it is.

[morsdraconis]

one of the things that i love about him as a coach. he doesnt care if he pisses people off, he tells it exactly how it is.

From my understanding, quite a few people in the Big 12 hated him for that quality.

Dude is an offensive genius though so I don't mind at all. His tutelage of Holgorsen is why Holgorsen is such a perfectionist and therefore an amazing offensive genius as well.

[JeffHCross]

From my understanding, quite a few people in the Big 12 hated him for that quality.I think American can be generally summed up as "I want you to be more honest, unless I disagree with what you're saying." :D

[bdoughty]

From my understanding, quite a few people in the Big 12 hated him for that quality.


Also quite a few fat girlfriends.

[baseballplyrmvp]

:USC: vs :Washington: this weekend.

i'll be at the game watching kiffin and sarkisian battling it out......kinda like two kids playing madden hopped up on candy and :mdcr:

[SmoothPancakes]

Tulsa well on their way to a C-USA division title and a spot in the CCG.

[JBHuskers]

Tulsa well on their way to a C-USA division title and a spot in the CCG.

Former Husker QB on that team.

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[gschwendt]

Ugh.... absolutely absurd announcement coming from ASU today as they announced that they'll open their season next year against UA Pine Bluff and the game will be played in Little Rock. An FBS school should NEVER play an FCS school on a neutral site, much less play one that the opponent is over an hour closer to the stadium that you are. I'll very likely be living in Little Rock by that time next year and will consider refusing to go based on principle.


Oh... and we're starting a home & home with Idaho. I have less problem with that but still absurd to give them a home game when they're struggling as it is and not get something more out of it. Our message board admin had the great idea to give a 2 for 2 but with their second home game being a neutral site game in Little Rock, helping them out to get an extra "home" game which they'll desperately need as an independent.

[JeffHCross]

G, have they been trying to get other teams to play in Little Rock (presumably a larger gate?), but couldn't get the deal done? Maybe UA Pine Bluff was the only one willing to agree to it. After all, the goal, most likely, is to play in Little Rock, regardless of opponent.

[gschwendt]

G, have they been trying to get other teams to play in Little Rock (presumably a larger gate?), but couldn't get the deal done? Maybe UA Pine Bluff was the only one willing to agree to it. After all, the goal, most likely, is to play in Little Rock, regardless of opponent.Malzahn made the statement that he wants a game in Little Rock. I'm all for that, but a game against UAPB, the Jonesboro crowd won't travel, the Little Rock football fans are already mad that they get UA's throw-away games and the casual person in Little Rock will just think its a conference game for the two teams.

Added that we as fans have struggled through times trying to get 6 games in Jonesboro and now that we've had that for several years, you throw that away for a FCS program and its absurd.

[SmoothPancakes]

“Look At Me, Mr. Fucking Howdy Doody!” (http://deadspin.com/5953372/look-at-me-mr-fucking-howdy+doody-wyoming-head-coach-goes-on-hilarious-rant-after-loss-to-air-force)

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[steelerfan]

“Look At Me, Mr. Fucking Howdy Doody!” (http://deadspin.com/5953372/look-at-me-mr-fucking-howdy+doody-wyoming-head-coach-goes-on-hilarious-rant-after-loss-to-air-force)

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

:D

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[bdoughty]

:D

Poor daughter looked absolutely mortified.

[AustinWolv]

Regardless if his beef was legit or not, that was piss-poor leadership on his part.....sets a poor example for his players and of himself.

[SmoothPancakes]

Does UNC have no standards at all when it comes to admittance policies? :smh: :fp:

Did UNC's Highsmith seriously plagiarize 11-year-olds? (http://www.usatoday.com/story/gameon/2012/10/23/erik-highsmith-plagiarism-11-year-olds-north-carolina/1653359/)


...

The following are excerpts of what Highsmith wrote last year for his class and what the 11-year-olds wrote eight years earlier for their peers, both provided by the News and Observer. You be the judge.

First Highsmith's: "Poultry farming is raising of turkeys, ducks, chicken and other fowl for meat or eggs. Poultry farms can be breeding farms where they raise poultry for meat, or layer farms where they produce eggs. The 'best' breeds depend on what you want from them. Good egg layers are Rhode Island Reds [brown eggs] and Leghorns [white eggs]."

Now the 11-year-olds': "Poultry farming is raising chickens, turkeys, ducks and other fowl for meat or eggs. Poultry farms can be: 1. Breeding farms where they raise poultry for meat, or 2. Layer farms where they produce eggs."

...

[JeffHCross]

Does UNC have no standards at all when it comes to admittance policies? :smh: :fp:Hard to judge "character" when admitting a student. :fp: worthy, sure, but plenty of college students (and even after college) plagiarize, and many don't even understand why it's wrong (or doing yourself a disservice, which is worse). I judge the kid for it, and it's certainly embarrassing for UNC, but I don't personally think it reflects on UNC at all.

[JeffHCross]

For those that didn't see it live, Ohio State had some very opportune plays to get a game-tying, last-minute drive against Purdue.

One of them looked distinctly familiar.

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1617753/OSU2.png
Other than the running back sealing the edge on the right side, I'm pretty sure I know that play ...

[baseballplyrmvp]

Other than the running back sealing the edge on the right side, I'm pretty sure I know that play ...

lol. same thing for me at the :USC: a couple of weeks ago in seattle. i started seeing all of these plays that i knew from ncaa. there was one play in particular where USC came out in an ace big twins look, barkley rolled out and hit robert woods on the corner of a smash route combo (ace big twins, rollout smash is the play, i think). i told the guy in front of me that that play never works in the ncaa video game. he laughed and said, "ya, its an automatic sack every time." :D


btw, i think thats some kind of "flood" play.

[JeffHCross]

btw, i think thats some kind of "flood" play.Not sure if being intentionally vague, but yeah. It's most commonly found in NCAA as Shotgun Y-Trips - Strong Flood. There are a couple other formations it's in (though not in a lot of them that it should be). Even the backside crossing route looks dead on for Strong Flood.

In fact, I think almost every play OSU called on that drive is in NCAA 13.

[baseballplyrmvp]

Not sure if being intentionally vague, but yeah. It's most commonly found in NCAA as Shotgun Y-Trips - Strong Flood. There are a couple other formations it's in (though not in a lot of them that it should be). Even the backside crossing route looks dead on for Strong Flood.

In fact, I think almost every play OSU called on that drive is in NCAA 13.

ya, i'm used to the shotgun trips flood plays. i think there's like 3 or 4 different ones in various shotgun formations. i knew it had a second word in its name; i just couldnt remember the other half of the name. but yeah, strong flood sounds and looks right.

[gschwendt]

Not actually college, rather High School but a high school in Miami had uniforms designed by ramjackson*
*yes these are real, no ramjackson didn't actually design them to my knowledge
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A6EtfhqCUAEktos.png:large

[JBHuskers]

Who wouldn't want to wear a uniform with a chief on your crotch?

[SmoothPancakes]

:smh:

[bdoughty]

The Indians are going to have a field day with this one.

[gschwendt]

Honey Badger don't care about keeping his nose clean... 4 LSU players arrested for pot.
http://www.wafb.com/story/19918447/former-lsu-stars-arrested-on-drug-charges

[bdoughty]

Honey Badger don't care about keeping his nose clean... 4 LSU players arrested for pot.
http://www.wafb.com/story/19918447/former-lsu-stars-arrested-on-drug-charges

http://i.imgur.com/zvr3z.jpg?1?7725

[JBHuskers]

Not actually college, rather High School but a high school in Miami had uniforms designed by ramjackson*
*yes these are real, no ramjackson didn't actually design them to my knowledge
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A6EtfhqCUAEktos.png:large

I just read that these were donated by Flo Rida. :D

[JBHuskers]

Corso signed to a new two-year extension. :up:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qj7shJtutA

[baseballplyrmvp]

that sucks for marcus lattimore. hopefully his career isnt over.

[souljahbill]

Question: If Mississippi St. goes undefeated with wins over LSU, Alabama, and Florida in the SEC championship game, do they automatically get into the BCS game and if Oregon, Notre Dame, and K-State are all undefeated, who would they skip over to get in?

[baseballplyrmvp]

i would think that it'd be miss state vs oregon.

oregon still has to play at #9 USC, at cal, and at #7 oregon state (#17 stanford is home for them). notre dame plays at #8 oklahoma and at #9 USC. bc, pitt, and wake forest are gimmies for them. k-state plays both of their ranked opponents left at home.

to me, oregon's resume of teams left to be played is more impressive than notre dame's and k-state's.

[JeffHCross]

Miss State wouldn't "automatically" get in the title game by any means, but you can reasonably imagine that they would jump high enough to get in, especially if Florida also continues to win.

I agree with you, overall, mvp that Oregon's schedule is tougher, but Notre Dame and K-State have also had more difficult roads so far.

[JeffHCross]

Normally I love Mike & Mike, but it is very clear to me that they know much less about college football than they are acting like. Greenburg thinks the Big XII still has a conference championship, and Golic thinks the computer polls only look at one week at a time (and yet, somehow, thinks the human polls will remember that Notre Dame beat Stanford). The computer polls are the ones that remember, whereas I question whether or not the voters do.

[OSUCowboyofMD]

What :Maryland: football has become....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHn5yQ60RfA&feature=g-u-u
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8566258/maryland-loses-fourth-quarterback-season-caleb-rowe-hurt
What's worse? This or the Madden curse -___- :fp:

[ram29jackson]

Not actually college, rather High School but a high school in Miami had uniforms designed by ramjackson*
*yes these are real, no ramjackson didn't actually design them to my knowledge
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A6EtfhqCUAEktos.png:large

the helmet and the patch on the sleeve in the middle picture are ok. but I would never make pants that look like pajamas :D

[ram29jackson]

uuuggghhh ooooooowwwwwwee :smh: :fp: :sick:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywemwRy2PXM

[psusnoop]

uuuggghhh ooooooowwwwwwee :smh: :fp: :sick:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywemwRy2PXM

:sick:

[gigemaggs99]

I think this confusion all started for me when Larry Fitzgerald got the shaft. They said he wasn't able to win the Heisman when he was a sophomore even though he was the best player in the nation. Then a few years later Tebow wins it as a Soph, so there went that theory.

Now I'm not sure what it takes to win the Heisman...it seems like I'm arguing with the media which basically can say whatever they want to get people talking but why in the hell isn't Johnny Manziel getting a sniff? They (the media) will sometimes say he maybe should be in the running, but then they said if you look at the body of work, maybe he'll be in the running in the next few years?

THIS MAKES NO SENSE TO ME. Do you only win the Heisman if you have multiple years of success? I thought the Heisman winner was a yearly contest, not a body of work. If that's the case then they should ONLY allow 4 or 5 year seniors to be on the ballet and they should look at their entire 4 years body of work. I know that isn't going to happen b/c guys leave early and then other guys come in and start their Jr year, but why isn't Manziel an option for THIS YEAR's Heisman?

Look at these stats:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/stats/_/id/517475/johnny-manziel

Johnny Manziel:

PASSING STATS
YEAR TEAM CMP ATT PCT YDS AVG TD LNG INT RAT
2012 203 305 66.6 2527 8.3 16 80 6 149.5


RUSHING STATS
YEAR TEAM ATT YDS AVG LNG TD
2012 138 922 6.7 72 15




Compared to these on the Heisman watch:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/heisman12/

Collin Klein:

2012 SEASON
PASSING
RAT YDS TD INT CMP%
174.4 1875 12 2 71.1

RUSHING
YDS TD YPC
698 17 5.0


AJ McCarron:

2012 SEASON
PASSING
RAT YDS TD INT CMP%
173.5 1849 19 0 66.7

RUSHING
YDS TD YPC
-44 1 -1.3


Braxton Miller:

2012 SEASON
PASSING
RAT YDS TD INT CMP%
140.1 1753 14 6 56.9

RUSHING
YDS TD YPC
1166 13 6.3


Sorry for the stats no all lining up properly, the links show them better. I'm not saying he's the best in EVERY category but if you look at all of his stats compared the guys that are being talked about Johnny blows them out of the water.

Please do not say he's a system QB. Please do not say, "well look who he's playing, he's in a chump conference...."

The main thing that made me smile from yesterday's game was one announcer finally said something to the effect of, Well if he was doing this in the Big 12 or some other conference then I'd say otherwise, but he's doing this in what WE ALL (referring to the mass media) as the biggest and baddest conference the SEC.

It's just nice to win, but it's funny how everyone gave us a 0 chance coming from the big 12 with our conf usa offense, and too-small rebuilding defense.

I hope we continue to do well, will be a BIG test this week vs Alabama.

Gig 'Em Aggies!

Gus '99

[baseballplyrmvp]

probably the biggest reason: 2 a&m losses

you're not gonna win the heisman if your team isnt in the title hunt, unless you do something really special.

[JeffHCross]

That ^^^^. Especially if you're a QB, because then the losses are viewed as "on" you. If it was a WR and the QB was to blame for losses, that'd be one thing. But for a QB, a near perfect record is essential.

Now, if Maizel shows up Bama this weekend, that would be a different story. That would be "really special", as MVP said.

Going back to the Larry Fitzgerald comment ... note that until Tebow won, NO Sophomore had won the Heisman. So there was definitely a perception against a Sophomore winning the award. He obviously started a trend, as Sam Bradford and Mark Ingram then followed. But there was definitely a glass ceiling for sophomores before that season.

[gigemaggs99]

I guess we'll just see how things progress throughout the season. As far as the QB arguments and you need to be in a title hunt, that doesn't hold water for me when:

Braxton Miller is in the hunt of the Heisman. OSU can't even play in a bowl, not to mention he's a Sophomore.

Geno Smith, WVU has 3 losses.

Matt Barkley, USC has 3 losses.

Marqise Lee, USC has 3 losses.

Giovani Bernard, NC has 3 losses AND they have a bowl ban.

As far as Tebow goes, I think he just had really really good hype. Fitzgerald didn't have the hype but his numbers were FAR beyond impressive. The sophomore argument is what bothers me, I know Fitzgerald didn't win it b/c he was a soph, but then Tebow came along so it blew that theory out of the water that a soph couldn't win it. Now when they talk about Manziel they refer to him maybe being in the running in a year or two, they say you need to "look at his complete body of work"...that just rubs me wrong, were Tebow, Bradford, and Ingram all AWESOME for 4 years in a row before they were put on the Heisman watch? I think not. The Heisman is for the best player of the current year, not from all their combined years.

I do find it impressive that Oregon has 2 candidates on the Heisman watch. From what I've seen from watching Oregon this is VERY impressive as they usually pull their starters before half time. So these guys are getting those numbers in only 1/2 of a football game. Same with Manziel, he hasn't played the all of the 3rd and 4th quarter of our games vs SMU, South Carolina St, Arkansas, Auburn, or Ole Miss. If they kept him in there (which I agree they shouldn't) his numbers would be even more impressive, as would the Oregon players. I think they should take that into account, AJ McCarron has played the majority of their games all the way through.

I'm just saying when you're comparing stats you should take into account the amount they've played per game. It's like a double-edge sword if they left them in there, not only would it be dumb to risk injury and not let the backups have reps, but you would piss people off by running up the score, BUT you would get huge inflated numbers which is a plus for Heisman watching/stats. However, if you left them in there and you REALLY hammered the dog nuts out of the opponent then you would start to hear, well look at their "strength of schedule"...i.e. Oregon this year, they are killing everyone but you hear their schedule is weak, they play their 3rd and 4th string players starting 1/2 way through the 2nd quarter!

[baseballplyrmvp]

matt barkley and marqise lee wont be seriuos contenders unless USC wins out and those two continue to put up huge yards. pretty hard to vote for barkley if USC loses 4 or 5 games (that thought makes me sick).

another argument could be made for turnovers that manziel has. he's thrown 6 interceptions and fumbled a couple of times. compare that to klein and mccarron. i dont think braxton miller is a serious contender, mostly because of his passing efficiency (again, compared to klein and mccarron). iirc, tebow and bradford turned the ball over very little in their heisman campaigns.

[gigemaggs99]

another argument could be made for turnovers that manziel has. he's thrown 6 interceptions and fumbled a couple of times.

LOL, well I guess compared to what we'er used to 6 is doing pretty good, sad to say. Ryan Tannehill threw 15 last year. The year before that he had 6 and Jerrod Johnson had 9 so if we can keep it to less than 15 for the year it's a step in the right direction. :)

[souljahbill]

I really hope the computers have Oregon vs. Alabama in the BCS title game, even if KSU and Notre Dame are undefeated as well. I think Oregin has the best shot at beating 'Bama.

[JeffHCross]

I guess we'll just see how things progress throughout the season. As far as the QB arguments and you need to be in a title hunt, that doesn't hold water for me when:

Braxton Miller is in the hunt of the Heisman. OSU can't even play in a bowl, not to mention he's a Sophomore.MVP said "title hunt" but what he really means is "impressive record". OSU may be ineligible, but we're still undefeated, and that's going to cause people to pay more attention to him. I don't know why you mentioned OSU's ineligibility or North Carolina's bowl ban. Neither has any bearing on whether or not a player should be considered for an individual reward.

Also, we already threw out the Sophomore issue. Tim Tebow handled that for us.


they say you need to "look at his complete body of work"I don't know who you're quoting, but they're probably talking more about looking at the season as a whole rather than individual contests. So you don't get caught up in "He ran for 500 yards against an FCS school! Heisman!" talk. Not that Manziel is doing that, but I think you get my point.

And Kenyon Barner and Marcus Mariota are absolutely going to get looked at, especially after the way they ran through and over SC.

Any talk of AJ McCarron being a Heisman is ridiculous.

[psusnoop]

MVP said "title hunt" but what he really means is "impressive record". OSU may be ineligible, but we're still undefeated, and that's going to cause people to pay more attention to him. I don't know why you mentioned OSU's ineligibility or North Carolina's bowl ban. Neither has any bearing on whether or not a player should be considered for an individual reward.

Also, we already threw out the Sophomore issue. Tim Tebow handled that for us.

I don't know who you're quoting, but they're probably talking more about looking at the season as a whole rather than individual contests. So you don't get caught up in "He ran for 500 yards against an FCS school! Heisman!" talk. Not that Manziel is doing that, but I think you get my point.

And Kenyon Barner and Marcus Mariota are absolutely going to get looked at, especially after the way they ran through and over SC.

Any talk of AJ McCarron being a Heisman is ridiculous.

Anyone talking about that needs their head examined.

[psusnoop]

USC cheating??? Tell me it isn't so.....:smh:

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/ncf/story/_/id/8605756/usc-trojans-fire-student-manager-deflating-game-footballs

[baseballplyrmvp]

:fp:

[psusnoop]

Funny he acted all alone in this :smh:

[coogrfan]

Houston CB DJ Hayden is lucky to be alive after he suffered a freak injury in practice Tuesday evening:




Nov. 8, 2012



HOUSTON - Houston football player D.J. Hayden was transported by ambulance from the University of Houston football practice facility to Memorial Hermann Hospital on Tuesday afternoon for evaluation of an injury sustained from a collision in practice.

Walter Lowe, M.D., University of Houston Head Team Physician, confirmed Thursday that Hayden required immediate surgery for a tear of the inferior vena cava, the large vein that carries blood from the lower half of the body back to the heart. Lowe described the injury as very serious and life threatening while commending the coordinated response from the University of Houston Athletics Training Staff, EMS paramedics and the trauma staff at Memorial Hermann.

Hayden is currently alert and in stable yet critical condition in Memorial Hermann ICU unit.
The University of Houston Athletics Department will release further updates on Hayden as they become available.

Statement from Walter Lowe, M.D., University of Houston Head Team Physician
"This injury has never been seen or reported in association with a football injury and is more associated with high speed motor vehicle injuries. The type of injury D.J. had is 95 percent fatal in the field and we are all very thankful for the coordinate response from the University of Houston trainers, EMS paramedics, the trauma team at Memorial Hermann and operating surgeon Dr. John Holcomb."

Statement from Tony Levine, University of Houston Head Football Coach
"D.J. is a tremendous young man and has been a great asset to our program, both on and off the field. I ask that everyone continue to keep D.J. and his family in their thoughts and prayers. We are very fortunate to have some of the nation's top physicians and medical facilities just minutes away from our campus and I would like to extend our appreciation for their efforts on Tuesday evening. We thank you for respecting the privacy of D.J. and his family at this time. We look forward to supporting D.J. on his road to recovery."

Fans wishing to send well-wishes to Hayden are encouraged to do so at at the Houston Athletics Facebook Page or via e-mail at uhcougarsdotcom@gmail.com

[baseballplyrmvp]

Funny he acted all alone in this :smh:

no reason to think of a conspiracy. he lost his job because of it. 3 of the balls were re-inflated before the game even started, and another 2 were re-inflated at halftime.

[JeffHCross]

Funny he acted all alone in this :smh:As much as I hate to agree with Lane Kiffin, he's right that there's no real advantage for USC from doing that. So no reason to have a conspiracy with that intent.

[psusnoop]

As much as I hate to agree with Lane Kiffin, he's right that there's no real advantage for USC from doing that. So no reason to have a conspiracy with that intent.

So why does the NCAA have rules in place to dictate the proper inflation of game balls? Just asking because saying "sure we broke the rules, but hey it doesn't really give either team an advantage" talk is exactly the kind of BS that hurts the NCAA in the long run.

Also you really think this student manager deflated these balls with the sole purpose of not gaining an advantage? Did he do this because he wanted to get fired?

Just as a side note, I really don't care if the balls were under inflated or over inflated I just despise Lane Kiffin and everything he stands for. Felt I should give a little background of where I'm coming from to be fair to these last few posts within this thread.

[baseballplyrmvp]

So why does the NCAA have rules in place to dictate the proper inflation of game balls? Just asking because saying "sure we broke the rules, but hey it doesn't really give either team an advantage" talk is exactly the kind of BS that hurts the NCAA in the long run.

Also you really think this student manager deflated these balls with the sole purpose of not gaining an advantage? Did he do this because he wanted to get fired?

Just as a side note, I really don't care if the balls were under inflated or over inflated I just despise Lane Kiffin and everything he stands for. Felt I should give a little background of where I'm coming from to be fair to these last few posts within this thread.

sure it was to gain an advantage. deflated balls are easier to catch...but he obviously did a terrible job in letting the air out to the point that the refs caught 3 of the balls before the game even started. everyone has said that the stuend manager acted alone, even the student manager himself. he paid the price for it.

[baseballplyrmvp]

furthermore, if you know what kind of person the AD Pat Haden is, there's zero chance that he would try to cover this up.



sidenote: i cant wait to see marqise lee become the next ironman on saturday.

[psusnoop]

sure it was to gain an advantage. deflated balls are easier to catch...but he obviously did a terrible job in letting the air out to the point that the refs caught 3 of the balls before the game even started. everyone has said that the stuend manager acted alone, even the student manager himself. he paid the price for it.

Of course he would say that, what else is he going to say. I was told to do such and such and was following the direction of my peers?

I still call BS on this, just doesn't pass the smell test to me. I call for a NCAA investigation into lack of institutional control :D

[JeffHCross]

So why does the NCAA have rules in place to dictate the proper inflation of game balls? Just asking because saying "sure we broke the rules, but hey it doesn't really give either team an advantage" talk is exactly the kind of BS that hurts the NCAA in the long run.

Also you really think this student manager deflated these balls with the sole purpose of not gaining an advantage? Did he do this because he wanted to get fired?Well, this is one piece of the story that hasn't been totally clear to me. My understanding is that the manager was deinflating the balls on the Oregon sideline. Now, foolishly, I took that to mean he was deinflating the balls used by Oregon. I forgot that A) that would never be allowed; and B) the teams both have their own footballs. Now, getting my head on straight, of course there's an advantage to an under-inflated ball (though obviously it wasn't enough to help).

And I, too, can't stand Lane Kiffin. That's why I hated to agree with him.

[AustinWolv]

The student manager got the idea to deflate the balls himself? Riiiiiiight. Dan Patrick was talking about it this morning, and he's right.

[psusnoop]

The student manager got the idea to deflate the balls himself? Riiiiiiight. Dan Patrick was talking about it this morning, and he's right.

Yeah I hope more comes from this :up:

[baseballplyrmvp]

Yeah I hope more comes from this :up:

pat haden was one of the lead guys on the committee that just passed the new penalty rules for head coaches. if he found out LK told the student manager, he'd probably self impose penalties way harsher than what other schools would for the same thing.

the student manager said he did it all on his own will. not everything is a conspiracy.

[psusnoop]

You don't think it's kind of funny that a little old student manager decided all by himself that hey I will see if this helps and I will drop the inflation slightly.

If you believe that then I got some things to sell you. Sure I'm going way overboard maybe with wanting USC to get slapped because of my dislike of lK but that doesn't change the fact that someone with more knowledge and authority had to have given that student manager direction.

[baseballplyrmvp]

You don't think it's kind of funny that a little old student manager decided all by himself that hey I will see if this helps and I will drop the inflation slightly.

If you believe that then I got some things to sell you. Sure I'm going way overboard maybe with wanting USC to get slapped because of my dislike of lK but that doesn't change the fact that someone with more knowledge and authority had to have given that student manager direction.

it could be as simple as an honest mistake, that the student manager, thought the balls felt over-inflated, and decided to deflate them slightly, thereby doing his job. he might not have known that they were already approved for game use. according to ncaa rules, the footballs have to be between 12.5 and 13.5 psi. if the balls he deflated were at 12.3 or 12.2 (just missing the mark) it could very easily have been an honest mistake on his part. you may think its unlikely, but its very possible. additionally, the student manager was apparently seen deflating the balls in front of the oregon sideline before the game. oregon asked the refs to check it and the balls were deemed to be bad. honestly, if the intention to cheat was there, why would he do it in front of the oregon sideline? why not hide it?

i, for one, think its retarded to think that LK had anything to do with this, especially when you factor in that a deflated ball would hurt the kicking and punting game. the deflated balls wouldnt travel as far on the kickoffs or punts, and when oregon has de'anthony thomas back there, i dont think LK would have sacrificed a more catchable ball for his receivers at the expense of thomas running one back on him. USC's passing game has been great all year long.....why would LK suddenly order the balls to be under-inflated for the oregon game, when we havent needed to use deflated footballs at any point this year?

look at things with some common sense snoop. all the stories match there. the student manager said he acted alone, LK said no one on staff or any of his players knew about it. with pat haden being on the committee that just approved the new coaching penalties, if he found out that LK had a part in this, haden would have no problem firing LK and getting a head coach in there of his choosing. the kid was fired, not to cover USC's ass, but his actions resulted in the school being fined and reprimanded by the pac12.

[souljahbill]

All I can say is that if I were a student manager and someone above me told me to deflate the balls and I got fired when busted, I'd sing like a canary. If I was going down, I'd bring down anyone else involved that wasn't another student manager. That's all I'm saying.

[psusnoop]

it could be as simple as an honest mistake, that the student manager, thought the balls felt over-inflated, and decided to deflate them slightly, thereby doing his job. he might not have known that they were already approved for game use. according to ncaa rules, the footballs have to be between 12.5 and 13.5 psi. if the balls he deflated were at 12.3 or 12.2 (just missing the mark) it could very easily have been an honest mistake on his part. you may think its unlikely, but its very possible. additionally, the student manager was apparently seen deflating the balls in front of the oregon sideline before the game. oregon asked the refs to check it and the balls were deemed to be bad. honestly, if the intention to cheat was there, why would he do it in front of the oregon sideline? why not hide it?

i, for one, think its retarded to think that LK had anything to do with this, especially when you factor in that a deflated ball would hurt the kicking and punting game. the deflated balls wouldnt travel as far on the kickoffs or punts, and when oregon has de'anthony thomas back there, i dont think LK would have sacrificed a more catchable ball for his receivers at the expense of thomas running one back on him. USC's passing game has been great all year long.....why would LK suddenly order the balls to be under-inflated for the oregon game, when we havent needed to use deflated footballs at any point this year?

look at things with some common sense snoop. all the stories match there. the student manager said he acted alone, LK said no one on staff or any of his players knew about it. with pat haden being on the committee that just approved the new coaching penalties, if he found out that LK had a part in this, haden would have no problem firing LK and getting a head coach in there of his choosing. the kid was fired, not to cover USC's ass, but his actions resulted in the school being fined and reprimanded by the pac12.

So the questions I'm asking is the same ones that many people are asking yet I need to check my common sense? MVP, you seem to be a little sensitive today.

[JeffHCross]

So the questions I'm asking is the same ones that many people are asking yet I need to check my common sense? MVP, you seem to be a little sensitive today.He's a little sensitive anytime someone talking about USC breaking rules.

It's understandable, honestly. If it was Penn State or Ohio State I'm sure you and I would have the same reactions :D

[baseballplyrmvp]

So the questions I'm asking is the same ones that many people are asking yet I need to check my common sense? MVP, you seem to be a little sensitive today.

yes, use common sense and you'll see that there's practically nothing here to suggest other people's involvement. why does everyone want to always believe the rumors instead of actual facts? :smh:

[psusnoop]

He's a little sensitive anytime someone talking about USC breaking rules.

It's understandable, honestly. If it was Penn State or Ohio State I'm sure you and I would have the same reactions :D

Oh I know Jeff, been through it a ton with the PSU thread for a long time.

[psusnoop]

yes, use common sense and you'll see that there's practically nothing here to suggest other people's involvement. why does everyone want to always believe the rumors instead of actual facts? :smh:

I actually haven't heard any rumors just questioning sole responsibility of said incident.

[JeffHCross]

MVP, if your hypothetical is accurate that the balls were just every so slightly under inflation, you're right that there's no necessarily anything to suggest other involvement. That could be a manager just being poor at his job (or horrible at reading the PSI).

But it does seem ... unlikely ... that if the balls were obviously under-inflated that a student manager would do that on his own volition. Because if they were obviously under-inflated, then that suggests a conscious decision to cheat.

[baseballplyrmvp]

jeff, 2 of the under inflated balls were still used in the game, as they were refilled to regulation at halftime. that makes me think that they were just barely under the legal limit, and that it was an honest mistake on the student manager's part. not really a fireable offense, imo, however, his actions did lead to the university being fined and reprimanded by the conference. that alone got him canned.

if the 2 in play balls were obviously under-inflated, like say around 10-11 psi, more than a pound less than the acceptable limit, then that also falls on the refs as well, for failing to notice the difference. however, if you were matt barkley, would you want to practice all week with a football feeling a specific way, and then, during the biggest game of the season, you get a football that feels way different to you? in my mind, in the midst of the biggest game of the season, encountering a different feeling ball could be an unneccessary distraction....might also lead to some bad throws as well?

[JeffHCross]

Well, if they were consciously cheating, Matt probably practiced with under-inflated balls all week ;) And under-inflated balls are generally thought to be easier to throw and catch, so maybe it offsets.

The devil is in the details in this one. I think how under-inflated they were is key to whether or not I believe this was the manager acting alone and/or an intentional attempt to cheat on his part.

[baseballplyrmvp]

under inflated balls also dont travel as far on kicks and punts, and the first kickoff of the game bounced like 9 yards deep in the endzone.

agreed on how under-inflated they were.....but those are details we probably wont know. i'm still gonna believe that they were only slightly below acceptable limit.

[JBHuskers]

Yeah. That bus didn't just run him over. It did a burnout on his face.

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[souljahbill]

You heard it here first. A LOT of people will be using Texas A&M next year online in NCAA '14. Manziel is ridiculous!

[JeffHCross]

Now, if Maizel shows up Bama this weekend, that would be a different story. That would be "really special", as MVP said.With 7:59 left in the 1st quarter ... give it to him.

My opinion may not be the same at the end of the game. But right now ... give it to him.





You heard it here first. A LOT of people will be using Texas A&M next year online in NCAA '14. Manziel is ridiculous!Manziel: 75 SPD in NCAA '13. A true fresh on A&M's roster (Matt Davis) is 90 SPD.

Oops.

[gigemaggs99]

With 7:59 left in the 1st quarter ... give it to him.

My opinion may not be the same at the end of the game. But right now ... give it to him.







Gig 'EM! :up:

[gschwendt]

Mike Leach in hot water again? WSU star WR leaves team due to abuse
http://www.visaliatimesdelta.com/article/20121110/NEWS/311100029/Marquess-Wilson-leaves-Washington-State-football-team

[gigemaggs99]

Manziel: 75 SPD in NCAA '13. A true fresh on A&M's roster (Matt Davis) is 90 SPD.

Oops.


I'm not real big on changing rosters, the guys that do that put a lot of work into and I appreciate it. It's hard when no one had seen Manziel to know how to rank his stats. That being said, I've heard the def coor and off coor talk and shake their heads, they say he's one of the top 1-2 fastest guys on our team. So 75 spd probably doesn't do him justice.

[gigemaggs99]

Mike Leach in hot water again? WSU star WR leaves team due to abuse
http://www.visaliatimesdelta.com/article/20121110/NEWS/311100029/Marquess-Wilson-leaves-Washington-State-football-team

I must say, I'm really liking the air raid and what Leach brings to it. I've always enjoyed watching him coach games, even when he was at ttu beating my AGGIES. That being said, I've seen and heard some rough things (i.e. USMC boot camp MCRD to name one) and this is not how I would give a post game VICTORY speech.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZaOFTp5_C8

I like Mike Leach on the field and how he calls a game, but this is over the top. Who knows if this is an isolated event but it's just over the top if you ask me. Keep in mind, they did WIN the game.

[gigemaggs99]

This is really funny, to hear all of this post game talk. It's funny to hear that bama had an "off week".

I can hear it now, A&M won BUT, this is their first year in the SEC, let's see how they do next year, and the year after that...blah blah blah...all I can say is let 'em talk.

We are supposed to have a HARD SEC road schedule, we won and it's not b/c we won, we won b/c bama had an off week. OK sure.

As far as Manziel goes, I think the Heisman is a joke, it's production. It's SUPPOSED to be about the best player on the field. Not who has the best pre/post game comments. Think of Tebow, he had that I'm not going to quit, you'll never see anyone play harder, etc.. etc.. the media ate that up and played it for all it was worth. It's a perfect campaign for the Heisman.

AJ. McCarren last week cries on national t.v. after the win vs lsu. Then this week they have an interview with him, he explains his actions, the announcers say something to the effect of, "oh there's a true candid answer, it takes a real man to do that"....he gets his time in the spotlight, he gets his time b/c the camera, the media eats that shit up, forces it down our throat, plays it over and over and makes a feel good story out of it. This doesn't explain to me how he is the best player on the field.

Kevin Sumlin doesn't allow Fresh and Soph to speak to the media period. Manziel doesn't have those interviews, those pre/post game speeches. The media has no hype, so they can't build him up, make him eat crow or prove his predictions correct by proving it with on the field play ala Tebow. I agree with Sumlin, let the players on the field PLAY do the talking. Manziel is talking with his play. The problem is the media can put a spin on it so there is no hype. Look at Case Keenum, again under Sumlin, Keenum didn't have a big production in the media, his numbers were amazing yet he was never really in the thick of it for the Heisman. Was his on the field play really that important or was it b/c he didn't have the media hype? What is the Heisman a real trophy or a media hype storm? RG III is a good Heisman winner if you ask me, he wasn't at a powerhouse school, he didn't play for the national championship, he didn't talk up a storm in the media, his on the field play did the talking. This is how it should be.

If you ask me, Manziel's body of work is much more impressive, he doesn't have all the interviews to back it up, he just plays on the field. If the trophy is supposed to go to the best college football player for the year, then Manziel's play should atleast have him in the talk if not near the top. Look at his stats, look at how he keeps us in the game, don't look for his pre/post game crying sessions, look at his play on the field.

And for once I can say we won a good game. I'm sure the bama fans will have their complaints about the refs or calls or whatever. My side of the story, I'm sure is maroon, but:

I thought the Offensive PI that was called prior to the ball being thrown and within the first 5 yards of the LOS was complete B.S. How can their be PI when the pass hasn't been thrown and you within 5 yards of the LOS? If the DB can bump you at the line, why can't the WR bump him back?

There was the TD when Michael was laying in the endzone, his upper body was in the endzone, they mark the ball on the 1 yardline, his knees and feet were at the 1, how can you mark that short? They review it and it's a clear TD. Strange....

If you throw a pass to the WR and he drags his toes then goes out of bounds it's a catch, when we picked off the pass and he put his toes down first then his heel it was ruled out of bounds...strange.....

When we run hurry-up and sub players in, bama gets a chance to bring in defensive players, the problem I had was they would line up on D stand there and the ref was STILL standing over the ball. Normally on a normal play when there is no hurry-up being ran the ref does NOT stand over the ball while the play clock is running. strange......


All that being said we came out on top. Some will say it's b/c bama had an off week, a let down game from when they played a real sec team (lsu)...let 'em talk...I think it's nice to go INTO Tuscaloosa with a conf USA rinky dink offense, an undersized big 12 def (holding bama's monster rushing attack to 122 yards on 31 attempts), had some questionable calls and come out top.

Amazing!

[steelerfan]

Gig 'em, Aggs!

Go Irish!

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[JeffHCross]

they say he's one of the top 1-2 fastest guys on our team. So 75 spd probably doesn't do him justice.Well, based on his 40 time coming out of high school (4.55, I believe), he should have been around the mid-80s, if you use the 40 times that recruits claim to have. Of course, we know those ratings don't match up (http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/forums/showthread.php?78-Converting-40-times-to-NCAA-10-SPD) to the rosters. I'd say mid to high 80s for his SPD. Matt Davis's 90 isn't that far off, he was clocked at a 4.4 in HS.


Gus, you'll give yourself an aneurysm if you try to make logical sense out of the pundits and fans. Don't bother. :D FWIW, yes, Bama did have an off week. But that's not why they lost -- they lost because A&M took advantage of their mistakes and raced out to an early lead that they were able to hold onto. Not everyone is able to capitalize like that.

[SmoothPancakes]

This is really funny, to hear all of this post game talk. It's funny to hear that bama had an "off week".

Yep, they gotta get that spin cycle going full speed, gotta try and do whatever it takes to keep Alabama firmly entrenched in the middle of the national title picture.

[cdj]

Yep, they gotta get that spin cycle going full speed, gotta try and do whatever it takes to keep Alabama firmly entrenched in the middle of the national title picture.

It took about 10 seconds after the game before Verne & Gary started discussing how Alabama could get right back into the title game. Heck, the game may not have been completed.

I understand they have to be SEC homers since CBS has the rights, but they tend to lay it on too thick.

[cdj]

Mike Leach in hot water again? WSU star WR leaves team due to abuse
http://www.visaliatimesdelta.com/article/20121110/NEWS/311100029/Marquess-Wilson-leaves-Washington-State-football-team

I'm pretty sure losing to Colorado is more humiliating than anything Leach could have done.

He's probably not the most player-friendly coach ever, but I'm guessing WSU players aren't used to coaches riding them very hard and Wilson wasn't going to take it.

[JeffHCross]

I understand they have to be SEC homers since CBS has the rights, but they tend to lay it on too thick.I just can't wait until Finebaum on Monday. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[ram29jackson]

http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt82/ram29jackson/stafford_crop_exact11.jpg

[steelerfan]

Go Irish!

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[IBI]

under inflated balls also dont travel as far on kicks and punts, and the first kickoff of the game bounced like 9 yards deep in the endzone.

agreed on how under-inflated they were.....but those are details we probably wont know. i'm still gonna believe that they were only slightly below acceptable limit.

That's not the case. A flat ball doesn't travel very well on kicks. A slightly underinflated ball actually gives a greater trampoline effect, and will travel further than a properly inflated ball.

This is a quote from another board that I frequent.


Kicking game today:

Heidari: 7 KOs, 1 touchback. Many kicks today well below his season average.

Negrete: 4 punts, 31.5 yard avg. 13 yards below his season average of 44 with a long of only 36.

On "gripability":

Barkley threw 3 INTs, USC fumbled twice, and ASU fumbled once on a return with one of USC's K balls

[baseballplyrmvp]

no ibi. a fully inflated football travels farther than a slightly under inflated football. its a physics problem dealing with how efficient the football is in converting the energy it receives from the kick to how far it'll travel. slightly under-inflated balls will have more give in their surface and will lose some of the energy in trying to get back to its original shape. that lost energy results in not travelling as far.

what do the USC stats from the arizona state game have to do with what i was saying about the USC/oregon game?

[HWill]

Big East announces 2013 divisions.

East: :Cincinnati: :UCF: :Connecticut: :Louisville: :Rutgers: :USF:

West: :Boise_State: :Houston: :Memphis: :San_Diego_State: :SMU: :Temple:

[souljahbill]

Wouldn't it make more sense to switch Temple, Memphis, Central Florida, and South Florida?

[souljahbill]

Stupid question or STUPID question?
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/11/16/6uze4umu.jpg

[baseballplyrmvp]

some questions dont need answers. :fp:

[JeffHCross]

Wouldn't it make more sense to switch Temple, Memphis, Central Florida, and South Florida?Not really. UCF and USF travelling that often to Boise or SDSU? Makes even less sense than Temple doing it.

I suspect there's some slight politics at play here, under the guise of geographically sensible divisions. Temple is the only school that has historically had a tie to the Big East that is in the West.


some questions dont need answers. :fp:I suspect that's why "Like" is the college answer. Trying to get more likes.

[souljahbill]

Not really. UCF and USF travelling that often to Boise or SDSU? Makes even less sense than Temple doing it.
Temple is closer to all the East division schools than UCF or USF. Since the FL schools are already well out the way of the actual eastern schools, throw them in the west.

[baseballplyrmvp]

another surprise return from a marine this time. glad to see it happening more. :up:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84Sh3eBnu8Y&feature=player_embedded

[psusnoop]

another surprise return from a marine this time. glad to see it happening more. :up:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84Sh3eBnu8Y&feature=player_embedded

I'm not a real emotional person but these videos really are great to watch.

Thanks to all that protect us!! Not enough great things could be said for your commitment and dedication to our country.

[AustinWolv]

:+1:

[baseballplyrmvp]

really disappointed in alabama and south carolina. alabama gave up 2 first downs to 1-8 western carolina in the first half, and south carolina failed to score in the first quarter against wofford. :smh: i expected more out of them. :down:

[cdj]

Minnesota's Jerry Kill is latest coach accused of verbal abuse and intimidation by a - now former - player. (http://deadspin.com/5961667/university-of-minnesota-wide-receiver-aj-barker-pens-scathing-goodbye-letter-to-head-coach-jerry-kill-alleging-abuse-and-intimidation)

[gschwendt]

This probably won't mean as much to you guys but here are some quotes from Gus Malzahn talking to the Little Rock (ie Razorback country) Touchdown Club today...

Gus - People are calling US, guys that are committed to big schools
Gus - I'm very fortunate to have the support of the administration that I do
Gus - I'm very happy at #ArkSt, we've got big goals and big dreams and I intend to see them through
Gus - I root for Hugh, but it wouldn't hurt my feelings to play him in a bowl (speculation that ASU & Ole Miss might play each other in the Liberty Bowl)
Gus - #Ark and #ArkSt need to play in LR..it's not 1974 anymore (Arkansas has refused to play ASU in football... it's never happened)



Taking all of that into account, A) he won't be a candidate for the Razorbacks if he's openly questioning their outdated policies which have been stated won't be changing a B) he sounds like he truly intends to stick around for more than just a year or two. He seems to say all the right things from a fan's perspective... great to be a part of it.

[steelerfan]

While that is definitely what you want to hear, Tommy, I'm sure you remember Nick Saban telling the Miami media that he wasn't leaving for Alabama.

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[steelerfan]

ESPN SC NCAAF - Notre Dame LB Manti Te'o, Kansas St QB Collin Klein, Texas A&M QB Johnny Manziel Maxwell Award finalists

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[steelerfan]

ESPN SC NCAAF - Butkus Award Finalists: J. Jones (UGA), D. Jordan (ORE), K. Minter (LSU), C. Mosley (BAMA), M. Te'o (ND)

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[gschwendt]

Just thought I'd share a couple of videos from the ASU vs Troy game this past weekend... the guy in the first video was ejected in the first quarter and suspended for a half of the next game. The two in the second video were flagged in-game and suspended for a half of the next game. Not that there's really anything to argue much about (although Troy thinks neither of theirs should have been flagged nor suspended) but just thought I'd share since it just adds more weight to the ASU/Troy rivalry that has been brewing.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3tAvaQPnUw4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0QUcqNg4TdU

[baseballplyrmvp]

if only USC had taken the ncaa to court......major football sanctions would have never come. *sigh*

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/judge-says-ncaa-malicious-usc-230220643--ncaaf.html

[gschwendt]

Weekly cartoons tracking the Arkansas season... some nice subtleties​ hidden here & there. :)

Hopefully the images all work, if not here's a link to the gallery.
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[SmoothPancakes]

It's gonna be close this bowl season. A story that was in the local rag tonight. It was by the AP, may be on something like Yahoo or ESPN but I haven't seen it.


Not enough teams to fill bowl spots

Miami’s decision to ban itself from postseason football this season may have a few bowl executives squirming. With the Hurricanes out of the picture, there are now 61 bowl eligible teams — and 70 available spots in the 35 bowls. A handful of teams still have a chance to reach six wins and join the list of qualifiers, but there may not be enough when it’s all said and done.

Before the season, the NCAA announced contingency plans for exactly this type of scenario, even a way for 5-7 teams to be selected – it’s tied to academic performance.

The list of 61 eligible teams does not include Georgia Tech, which is 6-5 but could end up 6-7 if it loses this weekend and again in the ACC title game.

Here are the 16 teams still on the bubble and what they need to do to become bowl eligible:

Baylor (5-5) must win at home against Texas Tech OR at home against Oklahoma State
Central Michigan (5-6) must win at Massachusetts
Connecticut (4-6) must win at Louisville AND at home against Cincinnati
Georgia Tech (6-5) must win at Georgia OR in the ACC title game against Florida State
Marshall (5-6) must win at East Carolina
Michigan State (5-6) must win at Minnesota
Mississippi (5-6) must win at home against Mississippi State
Missouri (5-6) must win at Texas A&M
Pittsburgh (4-6) must win at home against Rutgers AND at South Florida
Purdue (5-6) must win at home against Indiana
Rice (5-6) must win at UTEP
SMU (5-6) must win at home against Tulsa
Troy (5-6) must win at Middle Tennessee
Virginia Tech (5-6) must win at home against Virginia
Wake Forest (5-6) must win at home against Vanderbilt
West Virginia (5-5) must win at Iowa State OR at home against Kansas

So, glancing at the results from today's games, West Virginia beat Iowa State and will make a bowl game. Marshall lost to East Carolina, so unless they can somehow get in at 5-7, they're done. Central Michigan beat UMass, so the Chips are going bowling.

So we're up to 63 bowl eligible teams, with 13 chances to fill the final 7 slots.

Baylor (5-5) must win at home against Texas Tech OR at home against Oklahoma State

Connecticut (4-6) must win at Louisville AND at home against Cincinnati

Georgia Tech (6-5) must win at Georgia OR in the ACC title game against Florida State

Michigan State (5-6) must win at Minnesota

Mississippi (5-6) must win at home against Mississippi State

Missouri (5-6) must win at Texas A&M

Pittsburgh (4-6) must win at home against Rutgers AND at South Florida

Purdue (5-6) must win at home against Indiana

Rice (5-6) must win at UTEP

SMU (5-6) must win at home against Tulsa

Troy (5-6) must win at Middle Tennessee

Virginia Tech (5-6) must win at home against Virginia

Wake Forest (5-6) must win at home against Vanderbilt

Connecticut is most likely done, same with Pitt. Baylor has a chance but it will be tough. Georgia Tech is looking slim, having to knock off either Georgia or FSU.

Michigan State should get a win, Ole Miss is a tossup, Missouri has a big challenge ahead of them, Purdue's a tossup, Rice has a chance, SMU has a chance though I hope they get knocked out as it'll mean they'll lose to Tulsa.

Troy will have a tough game, but they're always dangerous, Virginia Tech has sucked this year so not sure how good their chances will be against Virginia. Wake Forest will have a tough one with Vanderbilt.

It's gonna be close. I'm thinking wins by Michigan State, Purdue, Ole Miss, Rice, Troy and Virginia Tech. It'll leave one open slot with either one of the teams needing to pull off the two win miracles, or one of the teams pulling off an "upset" to get to 6 wins.

[baseballplyrmvp]

anyone wanna take me up on this? by 2016, every team will get to go to a bowl game. lol

[morsdraconis]

anyone wanna take me up on this? by 2016, every team will get to go to a bowl game. lol

If they do, I'm done. Over 75% of the teams are already losing money whether they win or not. This bowl shit needs to stop. All this gladhanding bullshit of "We got to go to a bowl game; we had a good season" needs to fuckin' stop. WVU going 7-5 or 6-6 is simply unacceptable and if they went 5-7 instead of 7-5 wouldn't change the fact that they fuckin' sucked.

[SmoothPancakes]

anyone wanna take me up on this? by 2016, every team will get to go to a bowl game. lol

Unfortunately it's probably the truth.


If they do, I'm done. Over 75% of the teams are already losing money whether they win or not. This bowl shit needs to stop. All this gladhanding bullshit of "We got to go to a bowl game; we had a good season" needs to fuckin' stop. WVU going 7-5 or 6-6 is simply unacceptable and if they went 5-7 instead of 7-5 wouldn't change the fact that they fuckin' sucked.

Yep. 56% of college football teams get to go to a bowl game. Mediocrity is all that's needed. Thank god, after they added the Pinstripe and TicketCity bowls back in 2010, the NCAA put a three year moratorium on new bowls. Now they need to make a permanent moratorium on new bowl games unless a current bowl game goes under first. 35 bowls with 70 slots are at the maximum sustainable levels. Granted this year, it'd be 66 teams with 13 teams fighting for 4 spots if Miami, Ohio State and Penn State weren't all under sanctions, but still, every year we come down to the end and end up with only just a couple teams over 70 to fill the bowls.

[souljahbill]

Ole Miss ain't beating Miss St.

[SmoothPancakes]

Ole Miss ain't beating Miss St.

Probably not, but I was trying to at least come up with 5 or 6 reasonable teams to list to get to or close to 70. :D

Though after Washington State knocking off Washington yesterday, you can't count out anything, even Ole Miss-Miss St.

[SmoothPancakes]

Crisis has been averted for another year, we hit 70 bowl eligible teams today.

Baylor beat Texas Tech in OT to get to 6-5, Michigan State won at Minnesota to get to 6-6, Ole Miss beat Mississippi State to get to 6-6. Purdue beat Indiana to get to 6-6, Rice beat UTEP to finish 6-6, those bastards SMU beat Tulsa to make it to 6-6, and Virginia Tech beat Virginia to finish 6-6.

Now starts the countdown to who will potentially get screwed out of a slot. UConn (over Louisville) and Pitt (over Rutgers) both won today, so sitting at 5-6 they still have a chance. UConn has to beat Cincinnati next week, while Pitt has to beat South Florida. Georgia Tech also still has a chance, but they must beat Florida State in the ACC title game.

Missouri, Troy and Wake Forest, see you next year, all lost today to finish 5-7.

[souljahbill]

Can't believe Ole Miss won. That's an upset.

[baseballplyrmvp]

interesting stat. i'll give nd some credit, but USC's playcalling was still piss poor in that situation.

Notre Dame has given up eight touchdowns in 33 red zone possessions (24.2 percent) this season, including one in four possessions Saturday against USC. That is the lowest touchdown percentage for any FBS defense in the past eight seasons. The key has been great defense in goal-to-go situations. The Irish have allowed minus-5 total yards on 39 such plays, the fewest yards and average in the nation.



Rush yds ----- FBS Rank

-28 ------ 1st



Total Yds

-5 ------ 1st



Rush TD

1 --------- 1st



Total TD

5 -------- 1st

[JeffHCross]

It's gonna be close this bowl season. A story that was in the local rag tonight. It was by the AP, may be on something like Yahoo or ESPN but I haven't seen it.If memory serves, Georgia Tech (mentioned in the quote) should be eligible. I don't think a 6-7 team is punished if they lose their CCG.

[SmoothPancakes]

If memory serves, Georgia Tech (mentioned in the quote) should be eligible. I don't think a 6-7 team is punished if they lose their CCG.

Actually, to an extent, they do.


Bowl-Eligibility Contingency Plan

On August 2, 2012 The NCAA Division I Board of Directors approved a process that would allow 5-7 teams to become bowl eligible, in case there aren't enough bowl-eligible teams to fill every game. If a bowl has one or more conferences/teams unable to meet their contractual commitments and there are no available bowl-eligible teams, the open spots can be filled – by the bowl sponsoring agencies – as follows:


Teams finishing 6-6 with one win against an FCS team, regardless of whether that FCS school meets NCAA scholarship requirements. Until now, an FCS win only counted if that opponent met the scholarship requirements—specifically, that school had to award at least 90% of the FCS maximum of 63 scholarship equivalents over a two-year period. In the 2012 season, programs in four FCS conferences cannot meet the 90% requirement (56.7 equivalents)—the Ivy League, which prohibits all athletic scholarships; the Patriot League and Pioneer Football League, which do not currently award football scholarships; and the Northeast Conference, which limits football scholarships to 38 equivalents.
6-6 teams with two wins over FCS schools.
Teams that finish 6-7 and lose in the conference championship game are next.
6-7 teams that normally play a 13-team schedule, such as Hawaii's home opponents. Although Hawaii normally plays a 13-game schedule, it is only playing 12 games this season.
FCS teams who are in the final year of the two-year FBS transition process, if they have at least a 6-6 record.
Finally, the nod would go to 5-7 teams that have a top-5 Academic Progress Rate score. For 2012, these teams are Northwestern, Duke, Boise State, Ohio State, and Northern Illinois. All of these schools have 6 or more wins already, with Ohio State being ineligible due to sanctions. If necessary, 5-7 teams could be selected thereafter in order of APR. Among teams who could potentially finish 5-7, Rice is first, followed by Wake Forest.

[gigemaggs99]

Well Johnny Football just spoke to the media for close to 1 hour. Fielding questions from all over the country via conference call. SI, USA today, Fox sports, EPSN, all sorts of people asked him all sorts of questions.

I was impressed, he sounds pretty grounded (refers to coming from a small town a lot). He answered the tricky questions with tact so you can tell he's been coached well on that aspect too.

I like how he refers to the "team" in a lot of his answers, when asked about things like the Heisman he turns it back into a, "...well if I didn't have the (current best in his opinion) offensive line and great receivers that were hungry for the ball, I wouldn't have been able to make the nice plays."

It was nice to hear him also constantly defer back to Texas A&M and that he's just happy to have an opportunity to play, I know they are all coached to say things like that, but over what was close to an hour of constant questions his answers didn't waiver.

When asked what his biggest surprise has been this season, he said it was nice to be 10-2, he said they heard all the hype, heard how their gimmick offense wouldn't be able to make it in the SEC, had heard how they would take their lumps and it would be a long learning curve coming into the SEC, he said they all had their questions, came together as a team but are all very nicely surprised with their success.

Tomorrow he is going to have a video media day at/around 2pm. Should be interesting to see that one too.

Gig 'Em Aggies and GO JOHNNY GO!

Gus '99

[JeffHCross]

Actually, to an extent, they do.They do, but, as I expected, they're higher on the list than 5-7. Surprised that two-FCS-wins are above CCG losers.

Also, Ohio State has a top-5 APR? Holy shit, that's awesome.

[ram29jackson]

Well Johnny Football just spoke to the media for close to 1 hour. Fielding questions from all over the country via conference call. SI, USA today, Fox sports, EPSN, all sorts of people asked him all sorts of questions.

I was impressed, he sounds pretty grounded (refers to coming from a small town a lot). He answered the tricky questions with tact so you can tell he's been coached well on that aspect too.

I like how he refers to the "team" in a lot of his answers, when asked about things like the Heisman he turns it back into a, "...well if I didn't have the (current best in his opinion) offensive line and great receivers that were hungry for the ball, I wouldn't have been able to make the nice plays."

It was nice to hear him also constantly defer back to Texas A&M and that he's just happy to have an opportunity to play, I know they are all coached to say things like that, but over what was close to an hour of constant questions his answers didn't waiver.

When asked what his biggest surprise has been this season, he said it was nice to be 10-2, he said they heard all the hype, heard how their gimmick offense wouldn't be able to make it in the SEC, had heard how they would take their lumps and it would be a long learning curve coming into the SEC, he said they all had their questions, came together as a team but are all very nicely surprised with their success.

Tomorrow he is going to have a video media day at/around 2pm. Should be interesting to see that one too.

Gig 'Em Aggies and GO JOHNNY GO!

Gus '99



you forgot that he referenced playing NCAA football games as a kid and winning the Heisman as a freshman. can you say "promo"...?

[JeffHCross]

you forgot that he referenced playing NCAA football games as a kid and winning the Heisman as a freshman. can you say "promo"...?Too bad they'll have to wait 2 or 3 years before they can use that :D :smh:

[SmoothPancakes]

They do, but, as I expected, they're higher on the list than 5-7. Surprised that two-FCS-wins are above CCG losers.

Also, Ohio State has a top-5 APR? Holy shit, that's awesome.

Oh yeah, they are indeed higher than the 5-7 teams. But yeah, they fall middle of the list, trailing behind the one and two-FCS-win teams, so they still get somewhat punished as expected. After this past weekend though, they have no choice but to beat FSU now. With 70 eligible teams already, they're sitting home if they lose and drop to 6-7.

And yeah, I was caught by surprise there. I figured Ohio State had a great APR, but I wasn't expecting top-5.

[JeffHCross]

trailing behind the one-FCS-win teamsI'm not even sure why that's mentioned in the list. As far as I know, a single victory over an FCS team is counted just like an FBS win. But maybe that's just because so many teams do it that we're automatically into #1 on the list.

[SmoothPancakes]

I'm not even sure why that's mentioned in the list. As far as I know, a single victory over an FCS team is counted just like an FBS win. But maybe that's just because so many teams do it that we're automatically into #1 on the list.

Probably they just consider it that way. Granted, there are also still a fair number of teams that don't play FCS schools in a given year, so going 6-6, they'd be given priority over those who went 6-6 with a win over a FCS team, thus probably the need to still list it as #1 on the list.

[ram29jackson]

Too bad they'll have to wait 2 or 3 years before they can use that :D :smh:

I just mean he is promoting the game while promoting himself for Heisman

[JeffHCross]

I just mean he is promoting the game while promoting himself for HeismanRight. Which would be very good promotion for the game ... if they could actually use that. They might be able to word-of-mouth it, but that's about it.

Now if he decided to mention it during his Heisman acceptance speech ... without any improper suggestion from EA Sports that he do so ...

[JBHuskers]

Don't feel sorry for Chizik. For the next three years, he'll get $208k a month.

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[AustinWolv]

Off-season will be fun, lots of open jobs.

[baseballplyrmvp]

Don't feel sorry for Chizik. For the next three years, he'll get $208k a month.

Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2

there was a stipulation that he'll get that as long as he actively searches for a job. i think there's also a clause that says his new salary will be deducted out of his buyout.

[SmoothPancakes]

I bet Saban's disappointed. Chizik was setting him up for life at Alabama. At least one guaranteed SEC win each year, a guaranteed win over your rivals (always great to have on that resume), Saban was all set at Alabama. The only year Chizik could even beat Saban, it took Cam Newton, a 24 point second half comeback and escaping from Bryant-Denny with a one point win.

[NatureBoy]

ACC Championship Game tickets selling for (much) less than a fast food burrito

The ACC had a pretty bad weekend. Florida State was worked over by Florida, Clemson couldn't beat a South Carolina team without its starting quarterback, and Georgia Tech was blasted by Georgia.

Interest in this weekend's ACC Championship Game isn't exactly at an all-time high. Considering you can use a $5 bill to buy a ticket and still get $1 back in change, we're going to say Charlotte isn't abuzz about Florida State vs. Georgia Tech this week.

Tickets on StubHub.com were going for as little as $4 on Monday morning:

There it is, championship football for less than two gallons of gas.

A tour of Bank of America Stadium, when no game is being played, much less one that will determine a trip to a BCS bowl, costs $5 for adults. So, if you were thinking of taking that tour of the empty stadium, you can save yourself a buck and just buy a ticket to see Florida State and Georgia Tech play on Saturday night.

Or with that $4 you could go see about one-third of a movie. Or come close to buying a carnitas burrito at a fast food establishment. Denny's offers $4 all-you-can-eat pancakes, if you'd rather chow down on some flapjacks than watch two teams play for a championship in a major college football conference.

Florida State fans from Jacksonville could face a choice: Buy three tickets to the ACC Championship Game, or buy one ticket to see the Arena Football League's Jacksonville Sharks instead. The cheapest ticket for the Sharks is $12. Heck, the ACC is going to need to sell three tickets just to pay for the referee's whistle, which runs about $9 if you're in the market for one of your own.

As the Atlanta Journal-Constitution pointed out, SEC Championship Game tickets are going for a wee bit more. The cheapest tickets for the Georgia-Alabama game as of Monday morning on StubHub.com were $299, and those were for nosebleed seats in the end zone. Only six tickets total were going for less than $350, and many sellers were asking for $5,000 for lower sideline seats. And beware of the authenticity of those tickets. The SEC warned about counterfeit tickets being sold on the secondary market. We doubt that'll happen with the ACC game.

So, it's probably safe to say that good seats will be available for the ACC title game. We would love to see the scalpers in Charlotte trying to sell their inventory this week. They can sell one ticket to the ACC Championship Game and almost have enough money to buy a venti cappuccino at Starbucks.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/acc-championship-game-tickets-selling-much-less-fast-170555117--ncaaf.html

[steelerfan]

:D:D:D

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[morsdraconis]

That's hilarious. Fuck you ACC.

[SmoothPancakes]

:D :D :D

Funny as hell!

[SmoothPancakes]

:D :D :D

Looking at Stubhub at this very minute, The ACC Championship Game has 7,153 tickets left with the lowest price now $5 for upper deck tickets. The MAC Championship Game, meanwhile, has only 198 tickets left with the lowest price being $10 for upper deck tickets. :D

[morsdraconis]

Yet a shitty WVU team against a shitty Kansas team has tickets for $21 still.

[baseballplyrmvp]

if only USC had taken the ncaa to court......major football sanctions would have never come. *sigh*

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/judge-says-ncaa-malicious-usc-230220643--ncaaf.html

enlight of this recent ruling, strong rumors are coming from USC's BOT that they have unanimously agreed to sue the ncaa.....:clap:

[SmoothPancakes]

:D :D :D

Looking at Stubhub at this very minute, The ACC Championship Game has 7,153 tickets left with the lowest price now $5 for upper deck tickets. The MAC Championship Game, meanwhile, has only 198 tickets left with the lowest price being $10 for upper deck tickets. :D

So out of curiosity, I decided to look up other ticket prices for comparison to how pathetic the ACC CCG prices are. These are all the cheapest, bare minimum prices you can get a ticket for.

ACC CCG Upper Deck - $4.00
MAC CCG Upper Deck - $10.00
Fort Wayne Komets (hockey team) Upper Deck - $12.00
Toledo Walleye (hockey team) Upper Deck - $15.00-$24.00
Big Ten CCG Upper Deck - $20.00-$25.00
C-USA CCG Endzone - $35.00
Army-Navy Game Upper Deck - $59.00
Pac-12 CCG Upper Deck - $65.00
SEC CCG Upper Endzone - $245.00

[gschwendt]

SBC CCG General Admission - $17

[gigemaggs99]

Brazos Valley Bowl Game http://www.brazosvalleybowl.com/ 18 and under free, $5 for all others!

[ryby6969]

My friend's son(Harris) just picked the Gators for football. :sick:

[souljahbill]

Here's an article that explains all the politics that led to the DISASTER of a season :Southern_Miss: just had.

Click Me (http://m.deadspin.com/5964003/)

[cdj]

Here's an article that explains all the politics that led to the DISASTER of a season :Southern_Miss: just had.

Click Me (http://m.deadspin.com/5964003/)

I'm glad the First Bank of Nebraska was able to help USM pay off Johnson. :fp: I realize an extra home game brings in significant money so NU will still make $ on the deal, but basically agreeing to pay off a fired coach for another school for $2.1M? I think USM got the better end of the deal here, though I'm sure some will (rightfully) be upset that they lost a marquee home game.

[baseballplyrmvp]

monte kiffin is gone!!!!

http://tvrecappersanonymous.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/carlton-dance_o_gifsoup-com.gif?w=500

[SmoothPancakes]

monte kiffin is gone!!!!

You just have to make it through getting embarrassed in a bowl game. ;)

[SmoothPancakes]

Not even 6 months after the NCAA changed the rules regarding 6-7 teams who lose their CCG, Georgia Tech files and gets awarded a waiver by the NCAA. Great. So someone of either probably Western Kentucky, Ohio or Bowling Green are going to get fucked out of a bowl slot all thanks to Georgia Tech getting a waiver to go bowling at 6-7, and the NCAA proves they have no fucking backbone to enforce rules, especially rules that they JUST FUCKING IMPLEMENTED! :fp:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8692474/georgia-tech-yellow-jackets-get-bowl-waiver-approved-ncaa

[morsdraconis]

And the "big boys" get favoritism once again. Gotta love the NCAA.

[SmoothPancakes]

And the "big boys" get favoritism once again. Gotta love the NCAA.

Yep. And it's not that I think "oh, well Bowling Green or Western Kentucky would just absolutely whoop ass against whoever they would face in Georgia Tech's place", it's simply this. If it was Bowling Green or Ohio that was requesting the waiver instead of Georgia Tech, do you honestly think or believe that the NCAA would actually grant that waiver?

Especially now that there are over 70 teams that are eligible for a bowl slot, thus making a 6-7 Georgia Tech team not needed or necessary to fill a bowl slot that would otherwise be unable to be filled and by the VERY rules that the NCAA created and amended not even 6 months ago that technically make Georgia Tech inelgible due to there being other teams in front of them that are 6-6 that ARE eligible and could fill those slots?

[morsdraconis]

Yep. And it's not that I think "oh, well Bowling Green or Western Kentucky would just absolutely whoop ass against whoever they would face in Georgia Tech's place", it's simply this. If it was Bowling Green or Ohio that was requesting the waiver instead of Georgia Tech, do you honestly think or believe that the NCAA would actually grant that waiver?

Especially now that there are over 70 teams that are eligible for a bowl slot, thus making a 6-7 Georgia Tech team not needed or necessary to fill a bowl slot that would otherwise be unable to be filled and by the VERY rules that the NCAA created and amended not even 6 months ago that technically make Georgia Tech inelgible due to there being other teams in front of them that are 6-6 that ARE eligible and could fill those slots?

It's sad, but, that's the bullshit that you get from the Bowl game system instead of a large playoff. Give me a 16 or 24 team playoff and I'll show you some of the best damn football the NCAA has ever seen. Think March Madness is awesome, imagine that with teams like Boise State the past 2 or 3 years, or Hawaii a few years back, or Utah before they were in the Pac-12 several years ago. The cinderella teams would be AMAZING in a large playoff format for college football. But, no, we have to hold onto bowl games that fuck the little guy and make VERY little money (or none) for 80% of the team that go to them (WVU, for example, in the Orange Bowl last year LOST $250,000, even though they won the god damn thing).

[JeffHCross]

While I understand the "THAT'S BULLSHIT" response ... consider ...

If North Carolina was eligible for the postseason, Georgia Tech would not be playing in the CCG. Georgia Tech would be eligible for a bowl at 6-6.
If Miami had not self-punished and given itself a dumbass bowl ban, Georgia Tech would not be playing in the CCG. Georgia Tech would be eligible for a bowl at 6-6.

While I agree with Smooth that the NCAA is showing no backbone in this circumstance, I also think it's bull that GT finds itself in this position in the first place. So I'm okay with a waiver. In fact, I think all CCG losers should be considered at 6-7 as if they were 6-6 (or, if there's a 6-6 team in the CCG, maybe we should just hand the title to the deserving champion of the other division and not even play it).


Hawaii a few years backYes, Hawai'i getting smashed by Georgia would have made a great first round matchup.

March Madness is a celebration of underdogs that, more often than not, is won by the big schools. The FCS playoffs are the same way. I have no reason to believe that a 16 or 24 team FBS playoff would be any different.

[morsdraconis]

While I understand the "THAT'S BULLSHIT" response ... consider ...

If North Carolina was eligible for the postseason, Georgia Tech would not be playing in the CCG. Georgia Tech would be eligible for a bowl at 6-6.
If Miami had not self-punished and given itself a dumbass bowl ban, Georgia Tech would not be playing in the CCG. Georgia Tech would be eligible for a bowl at 6-6.

While I agree with Smooth that the NCAA is showing no backbone in this circumstance, I also think it's bull that GT finds itself in this position in the first place. So I'm okay with a waiver. In fact, I think all CCG losers should be considered at 6-7 as if they were 6-6 (or, if there's a 6-6 team in the CCG, maybe we should just hand the title to the deserving champion of the other division and not even play it).

Yes, Hawai'i getting smashed by Georgia would have made a great first round matchup.

March Madness is a celebration of underdogs that, more often than not, is won by the big schools. The FCS playoffs are the same way. I have no reason to believe that a 16 or 24 team FBS playoff would be any different.

Butler in two straight Championship games would beg to differ. Kentucky and Duke may have won those, but when you have stories like Northern Iowa trouncing Kansas and Duke losing to whoever the hell they lost to as a #2 seed, talk about some seriously exciting and compelling basketball. How is a December 16 team playoff going to be any different?

You start it the weekend after the conference championships (none of this bullshit of waiting a month to play the final game) with 4 games on Friday (Noon, 3:30pm, 7:00pm, and 10:30pm games) and 4 games on Saturday (same as before). Then, you have the next 4 matchups the following weekend (Friday 7:00pm and 10:30pm games and Saturday 7:00pm and 10:30pm games) followed by the Final Four on the following Saturday (7:00pm and 10:30pm again) with the Championship game two weeks after that in the beginning of January or the second week of January on Saturday again (7:00pm primetime or earlier so as not to interfere with NFL Playoff games).

The amount of money that would be generated would be ASTRONOMICAL and, with four big conferences, they could work out a revenue sharing setup so that each conference that has a team make the playoffs gets a certain share of the money with the conferences making the final four and championship game getting a larger share (gotta have some bullshit in there for the SEC snobs to take advantage of).

It boggles my mind sometimes that something like this hasn't happened yet, but then I remember how the Bowl Games are just a giant money grab by a select few (the ones that run the fuckin' things that have NO NCAA police on how they're done) while the teams are the ones that actually lose the most.

[SmoothPancakes]

While I understand the "THAT'S BULLSHIT" response ... consider ...

If North Carolina was eligible for the postseason, Georgia Tech would not be playing in the CCG. Georgia Tech would be eligible for a bowl at 6-6.
If Miami had not self-punished and given itself a dumbass bowl ban, Georgia Tech would not be playing in the CCG. Georgia Tech would be eligible for a bowl at 6-6.

While I agree with Smooth that the NCAA is showing no backbone in this circumstance, I also think it's bull that GT finds itself in this position in the first place. So I'm okay with a waiver. In fact, I think all CCG losers should be considered at 6-7 as if they were 6-6 (or, if there's a 6-6 team in the CCG, maybe we should just hand the title to the deserving champion of the other division and not even play it).

I agree with you there, that yes, there are some special circumstances here with North Carolina being ineligible and and Miami making themselves ineligible, so that put Georgia Tech in an unusual position and they would have been fine at 6-6 otherwise. For me, it's not so much Georgia Tech that I have a problem with, but more the NCAA, which it appears we at least on a base level agree.

After a bunch of stuff last year with UCLA getting in at 6-7, and then the NCAA going and specifically changing the rules and changing order of eligiblity for bowl games just 6 months ago, the NCAA is basically already turning it's back on it's own newly changed rules and essentially showing that they don't have the backbone to stand up and say "no" to a power conference school in something like this.

And again, just on a personal opinion and neutral viewpoint, I truly honestly do not believe the NCAA would have granted such a waiver for someone like Ohio or Bowling Green, or whoever from the MAC, had they been in a similar position. I suppose we'll never truly know until someone from the MAC or C-USA end up in a similar position, but, maybe it's because I've become so jaded over the years from the NCAA's decisions, I just feel that a MAC or C-USA team would not get the waiver granted where as someone from the ACC, Big Ten, Pac-12 or SEC will each time it happens.

[JeffHCross]

Butler in two straight Championship games would beg to differ. Kentucky and Duke may have won those, but when you have stories like Northern Iowa trouncing Kansas and Duke losing to whoever the hell they lost to as a #2 seed, talk about some seriously exciting and compelling basketball. How is a December 16 team playoff going to be any different?If you look over the long haul, across the board, those kinds of upsets are rare and infrequent. That was my main point. Plus, in a 16-team tournament, that level of "upset" doesn't even exist. Sure, the #15 ranked school beating the #2 ranked school (in this case, Oregon State beating Alabama) would be a shock, but not a Butler level shock, agreed?



I truly honestly do not believe the NCAA would have granted such a waiver for someone like Ohio or Bowling Green, or whoever from the MAC, had they been in a similar position. I suppose we'll never truly know until someone from the MAC or C-USA end up in a similar position, but, maybe it's because I've become so jaded over the years from the NCAA's decisions, I just feel that a MAC or C-USA team would not get the waiver granted where as someone from the ACC, Big Ten, Pac-12 or SEC will each time it happens.I would like to think that a MAC or CUSA team would have been granted a waiver in the exact same circumstances. But you're right that we'll never know.

[gigemaggs99]

I think the "system" is just plain broken, it's funny that each year there is a National Champion but almost all could have a footnote.

Each year some team is ban for some reason or another, and they go undefeated or have a really good year, if they weren't banned they would change the entire make-up of the bowls.

I.E. this year it would be Notre Dame vs Ohio St...but NOT!

[JBHuskers]

Ooops :D

From Bleacher Report:

5-Star LB recruit Reuben Foster, who got an Auburn tattoo over the summer, has decommitted from Auburn.

http://media.al.com/sports_impact/photo/11504726-large.jpg

[morsdraconis]

Idiot. That's why tattoos are dumb (unless they're on hot chicks).

[JeffHCross]

I think the "system" is just plain broken, it's funny that each year there is a National Champion but almost all could have a footnote.

Each year some team is ban for some reason or another, and they go undefeated or have a really good year, if they weren't banned they would change the entire make-up of the bowls. Very, very rarely has there been a team on probation that would have significantly affected the National Title game.

And of course it's broken, that's why we have a playoff coming.

[JeffHCross]

Mike Vrabel is more badass (or just dumber) than your assistants!

http://www.usatoday.com/story/gameon/2012/12/06/oh%20io-state-mike-vrabel-headbutt/1751107/?morestories=obinsite

http://www.gannett-cdn.com/media/USATODAY/gameon/2012/12/06/vrabel-4_3_r560.jpg?f061b7ce9937c38b702e6f308816ac2a14e2a 4ec

[gschwendt]

http://vimeo.com/55423375

[JBHuskers]

Pretty cool story (especially when most of the stories about players are bad):

Virginia Tech's Antone Exum gave 3 kids he met at Best Buy a shopping spree instead of spending the Russell Athletic Bowl swag on himself.

Details: http://ble.ac/WRAYnv

[psusnoop]

Pretty cool story (especially when most of the stories about players are bad):

Virginia Tech's Antone Exum gave 3 kids he met at Best Buy a shopping spree instead of spending the Russell Athletic Bowl swag on himself.

Details: http://ble.ac/WRAYnv

Great story!

[JBHuskers]

Les Miles = Hardass ... love it!

http://totalfratmove.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/932e1fca01cd5d647dde368e2445b02a333089943-590x441.png

[morsdraconis]

Les Miles = Hardass ... love it!

http://totalfratmove.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/932e1fca01cd5d647dde368e2445b02a333089943-590x441.png

Good on him. I'm tired of people acting like it's ok for these guys not to take this shit seriously like anyone else would if they were in college learning the things necessary for them to become functioning humans in this society.

[baseballplyrmvp]

arent some of those guys freshmen? do scouts seriously get that much of a jump on players?

[steelerfan]

arent some of those guys freshmen? do scouts seriously get that much of a jump on players?

Keep in mind that this is just a controlling/manipulative tactic by Miles. Trying to motivate these guys by making them believe there are consequences. It's well within his right to do so, but it's still manipulation.

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[morsdraconis]

arent some of those guys freshmen? do scouts seriously get that much of a jump on players?

Sadly, yes, I'm sure they do. If college basketball coaches are going after kids in 8th grade, I'm sure NFL scouts are looking at college kids as freshmen.

[JBHuskers]

UNLV wants to build a new stadium with a ONE HUNDRED YARD SCREEN

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/eye-on-college-football/21555307/photo-unlv-is-thinking-big-with-plans-for-new-stadium

http://cbssports.com/images/collegefootball/unlvfield.png

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[SmoothPancakes]

:fp:

This shit is just getting ridiculous now.

[morsdraconis]

:smh:

That's ridiculous. :fp:

[baseballplyrmvp]

:fp:

This shit is just getting ridiculous now.

i would assume that its gonna be used for other shit besides football. i know that the competitive monster truck circuit used to have their final shows at sam boyd stadium (where they currently play).
i think the x-games are also held there too.

[JeffHCross]

MVP's right. Even though it seems ridiculous for UNLV to have that kind of facility, there are a lot of different events at Sam Boyd.

X-Games isn't held there (they're in LA, not Vegas), but Supercross events are often held there. That's probably what you're thinking of.

[baseballplyrmvp]

X-Games isn't held there (they're in LA, not Vegas), but Supercross events are often held there. That's probably what you're thinking of.

oh ok. i saw them on espn a couple of years ago with the superbike competitions....where'd they have a giant course with both dirt and road parts to the course. couldnt remember where that would have been and vegas seemed logical.

with how big those sidelines are from the field though, they might also consider another sport too? the second, third, and vip areas are awefully far away from the action though.

[gschwendt]

Yeah, they're looking at essentially all sports... here's an article with images of UFC, basketball, football & soccer.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2013/jan/11/unlv/ (click the gallery)

[JBHuskers]

Mountain West will have a championship game and split into two divisions. The Mountain Division and The West Division.

Better than Legends and Leaders at least :D

[JeffHCross]

Though the odds of at least one team being in the Mountain division and in a state with no mountains is probably high :D

And nothing could be worse than Leaders and Legends.

[JBHuskers]

Though the odds of at least one team being in the Mountain division and in a state with no mountains is probably high :D

And nothing could be worse than Leaders and Legends.

Maybe they'll put up some fake ones like in the 50's western movie Shane.

[baseballplyrmvp]

Katherine Webb will be parading around in a bikini weekly in primetime (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/katherine-webb-parading-around-bikini-weekly-primetime-211353143--ncaaf.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)

http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/IxYFTLw2O1FMlzUIpHxVCQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTMxMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/sptusncaafexperts/d0111webb.jpg

i'll be watching her show, now. :hump:

[steelerfan]

Brent Musberger cannot wait to fap to that show.

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[psusnoop]

Brent Musberger cannot wait to fap to that show.

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http://www.kzoz.com/jeff-and-jeremy/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/kat5.jpg
http://steeshes.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/brent-musburger-katherine-webb.jpg

[JBHuskers]

Katherine Webb will be parading around in a bikini weekly in primetime (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/katherine-webb-parading-around-bikini-weekly-primetime-211353143--ncaaf.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)

http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/IxYFTLw2O1FMlzUIpHxVCQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTMxMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/sptusncaafexperts/d0111webb.jpg

i'll be watching her show, now. :hump:

She's also going to be on the next stars diving stupidity show on FOX. Suh is going to be on that too :D

[steelerfan]

She's also going to be on the next stars diving stupidity show on FOX. Suh is going to be on that too :D

Did you look at the link mvp posted? :fp:

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[psuexv]

Did you look at the link mvp posted? :fp:

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Why would he do that? Then he couldn't repeat the information to get his post count up.

[JBHuskers]

Did you look at the link mvp posted? :fp:

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They don't usually dive in bikinis so I figured that was for something else :D

[morsdraconis]

:smh: I hate our fuckin' television executives.

[JBHuskers]

:smh: I hate our fuckin' television executives.

Yeah watching the NFL Playoffs we were bombarded with commercials for that and it looked f'n stupid. Then I saw clips on The Soup, they were even doing dives, they were just f'n jumping off the diving board and going in feet first :fp: the announcers made it sounds like it was an olympic dive commenting on the splash of a stupid ass simple dive like that.

[JeffHCross]

Amuses me that the article mentions Nicole Eggert was on Charles in Charge and not that she was on Baywatch. Would make more sense in context.

[souljahbill]

Amuses me that the article mentions Nicole Eggert was on Charles in Charge and not that she was on Baywatch. Would make more sense in context.

She was on Baywatch? I didn't know that.

#NotKidding #DidntWatchBaywatch

[NatureBoy]

Deke Adams Named to South Carolina Coaching Staff http://www.gamecocksonline.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/012213aaa.html

Since he was on the Southern Miss coaching staff for four years, what do you think about him souljahbill? Thanks for any comments you have on him.

[JeffHCross]

She was on Baywatch? I didn't know that.

#NotKidding #DidntWatchBaywatchhttp://www.virginmedia.com/images/baywatch-eggert-then-290x40.jpgSpoiled since it's not CFB related.

[JeffHCross]

http://deadspin.com/5978297/i-do-not-fit-the-mold-you-would-expect-meet-the-pharmacist-the-fedex-courier-and-other-dreamers-who-applied-to-coach-wisconsin-football

[baseballplyrmvp]

http://deadspin.com/5978297/i-do-not-fit-the-mold-you-would-expect-meet-the-pharmacist-the-fedex-courier-and-other-dreamers-who-applied-to-coach-wisconsin-football

no joke, 2 years ago, before bobby huack was hired as the HC for UNLV, i submitted an application for the head coaching gig. :blush:

[CLW]

http://youtu.be/n58bFRauLL4

[gschwendt]

The University of Tennessee is $200MM in debt.
http://tracking.si.com/2013/01/28/tennessee-athletic-department-is-200-million-in-debt/

[steelerfan]

no joke, 2 years ago, before bobby huack was hired as the HC for UNLV, i submitted an application for the head coaching gig. :blush:

:fp:

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[morsdraconis]

The University of Tennessee is $200MM in debt.
http://tracking.si.com/2013/01/28/tennessee-athletic-department-is-200-million-in-debt/

Wow. That's insane. Gotta love that revenue shar... oh wait.

[JBHuskers]

How much of that is Lane Kiffin's fault? :D

[baseballplyrmvp]

How much of that is Lane Kiffin's fault? :D

:fp: whats really sad is that there are people out there who will blame him for it.

[psusnoop]

When Tennessee got rid of Fulmer things went downhill.

[JBHuskers]

Football Players Are Taking Recruits To Strip Clubs Because Why Not? (http://www.tigerdroppings.com/blog/p/39560412/FIU-Players-Tweet-About-Recruit-Strip-Club-Trip.aspx)

[morsdraconis]

Football Players Are Taking Recruits To Strip Clubs Because Why Not? (http://www.tigerdroppings.com/blog/p/39560412/FIU-Players-Tweet-About-Recruit-Strip-Club-Trip.aspx)

Not to hate on your profession JB, but I just don't understand the attraction of strip clubs. :smh:

[psuexv]

Not to hate on your profession JB, but I just don't understand the attraction of strip clubs. :smh:

LOLOLOL... JB and his Husker on stage 2

[JBHuskers]

Not to hate on your profession JB, but I just don't understand the attraction of strip clubs. :smh:

For me, it's getting paid to see titties and drink :up:

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[steelerfan]

Not to hate on your profession JB, but I just don't understand the attraction of strip clubs. :smh:

I did when I was 20 or 21, but I haven't spent more than an hour, total, in a strip club in the last 17 years. I'd rather waste my time buying cheap drinks for whores that will put out.

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[JBHuskers]

I did when I was 20 or 21, but I haven't spent more than an hour, total, in a strip club in the last 17 years. I'd rather waste my time buying cheap drinks for whores that will put out.

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Being a DJ, it's sure as hell funny watching guys try. :D

[NatureBoy]

NCAA athletes can pursue TV money

In dismissing a motion by the NCAA to prevent football and men's basketball players from legally pursuing a cut of live broadcast revenues, a federal court judge Tuesday raised the stakes for the governing body of college sports as it defends its economic model.


Judge Claudia Wilken issued her ruling Tuesday, rejecting the NCAA's motion that players in the antitrust suit led by former UCLA star Ed O'Bannon should be precluded from advancing their lawsuit on procedural grounds.

The NCAA had objected to the players amending their lawsuit last year to claim a share of all television game revenues, not just those from rebroadcasts.

"Now the (NCAA and its co-defendants) are facing potential liability that's based on the billions of dollars in revenue instead of tens or hundreds of millions," said Michael Hausfeld, interim lead counsel for the plaintiffs. "It's a more accurate context for what the players deserve."

Unlike NFL or NBA athletes, players lack a union or similar body to negotiate a share of revenues flowing from media and other licensing contracts. The NCAA does not legally treat athletes as employees, and players have not organized to represent their interests collectively.

The O'Bannon suit attacks that model through the means of class-action, the legal question now before Wilken. Former college stars such as Bill Russell and Oscar Robertson have joined O'Bannon on behalf of all Division I players in football and men's basketball, asking Wilken to declare that they are similarly situated and to certify the class.

Wilken on Tuesday set the hearing on that motion for June 20 and ordered the NCAA to make its arguments against class certification on the merits rather than procedural objections such as the one she just rejected. The NCAA was joined in that motion by its partner, Collegiate Licensing Company.

In a statement, NCAA general counsel Donald Remy characterized the ruling as a partial victory for the NCAA.

"Although our motion to strike was denied, the judge has signaled skepticism on plaintiff's class-certification motion and recognized the plaintiffs' radical change in their theory of the case," Remy said. "This is a step in the right direction toward allowing the NCAA to further demonstrate why this case is wrong on the law and that plaintiffs have failed to demonstrate that this case satisfies the criteria for class litigation."

The ruling was met with enthusiasm by Hausfeld, who leads a team that includes more than a dozen law firms that have invested more than $20 million in legal fees pursuing the lawsuit since 2009. The prospect of an award that recognizes live broadcast revenues helps support their efforts.

In the event that the plaintiffs prevail, Hausfeld has set up a mechanism for players to collect licensing revenues. The Former College Athletes Association (FCAA) would negotiate licenses with the NCAA, member colleges, video game and media companies, according to Jon King, a former Hausfeld LLC lawyer who worked on the case.

King disclosed the existence of the FCAA in a wrongful termination suit he filed against Hausfeld earlier this month. He was fired by Hausfeld for undisclosed reasons in October, after serving as one of the lead lawyers in developing the case for the plaintiffs.

Details about the FCAA are scant, but Hausfeld said it would not serve as a revenue stream for his firm. Overseeing formation of the FCAA are Sonny Vaccaro, an unpaid consultant who has worked with Hausfeld to build the anti-trust case; Ramogi Huma, president of the National College Players Association; and Ken Feinberg, a prominent Washington D.C. attorney who helped distribute nearly $7 billion to victims of the 9/11 terrorist attacks and has run other major victim compensation efforts.

Wilken has set a jury trial on the matter, if it gets that far, for June 2014.

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/8895337/judge-rules-ncaa-athletes-legally-pursue-television-money

[morsdraconis]

:smh:

And it begins. Fuck the NCAA, turn this shit into a semi-pro league and let's get down to business already.

[gschwendt]

Red Wolves will be slaying pussy in 2013...

UAPB Golden Lions
Auburn Tigers
Memphis Tigers
Missouri Tigers
Idaho Vandals (they're a pussy of a team)
Georgia State Jaguars
South Alabama Jaguars
Texas State Bobcats
Troy Trojans (gotta protect yourself against bad pussy)

And the non-pussy-themed teams:
UL Lafayette Cajuns
UL Monroe Warhawks
Western Kentucky Hilltoppers

[SmoothPancakes]

Wow. Take about cupcakes.

[gschwendt]

Wow. Take about cupcakes.
Yeah... it's definitely setup to win this year.

[souljahbill]

NSFW


http://youtu.be/EPvHO3sqE6w

[JeffHCross]

NSFW=Not sure f-in' working?

I see nothing. Probably because you've got it set as a URL, not a vid.

[souljahbill]

NSFW=Not sure f-in' working?

I see nothing. Probably because you've got it set as a URL, not a vid.

It was working on my phone but I see the post has been altered so I guess it works correctly now for everyone.

[NatureBoy]

Ohio State raises ticket prices from $70 to $79

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — Ohio State's athletic department is raising ticket prices in football and men's basketball and for golf fees in order to continue to offer 36 varsity sports and upgrade facilities, athletic director Gene Smith said.

The school is also initiating "premium" games in both football and basketball, with large increases planned for fans wanting to see those contests.

Tickets to Ohio State's home football game tickets for most seats will go from $70 to $79 this fall. The price will go up for as many as two premium games a season to $110 to $175 per game.

"We haven't raised tickets prices the last three years," Smith said. "Looking ahead into our financial plan, we knew at some point we would have to do this."

Only one game has been selected as a premium game for the 2013 football season — the Sept. 28 date with Wisconsin, which has a new coach and will be going through a transitional year. Tickets for that game will cost a maximum of $110.

Smith said Ohio State had considered also making the Penn State game this fall a premium game, but declined to do so because of the volatility of the matchup. The Nittany Lions face severe limitations in recruiting and a bowl ban in the wake of the Jerry Sandusky scandal.

Ohio State hosts archrival Michigan in football in even-numbered years. Tickets for those games will almost certainly cost as much as $175.

Smith cited the costs of supporting the most varsity sports of any school in the nation for the increase, in addition to $4 million being spent at Ohio Stadium for concrete resurfacing, $1 million for a new track at the Jesse Owens Stadium and $2.2 million for a new roof and $600,000 for a new field at the football team's practice facility.

Smith said he did not believe that Ohio State was pushing ticket prices as high as the market will bear.

"We're different than most programs," he said, referring to the large football ticket allotment set aside for students (30,000) and for faculty and staff (15,000). "We do this because our people are passionate. We believe that they'll show up."

A finance committee accepted the recommendations on Thursday. The school's board of trustees is expected to approve the increases on Friday.

The measure will raise around $6 million per year, $5.2 million in football and $800,000 in men's basketball.

Men's basketball tickets will go up starting next season, by $6 for the best seats and less in other areas of Value City Arena.

Smith and the athletic department were also approved to designate as many as five men's basketball games a year as premium games, most likely the home games with Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, Wisconsin and possibly the ACC/Big Ten Challenge opponent in years when Ohio State hosts that game.

No figures for the cost of those premium games was provided by the university.

Most of college football's top programs do not charge the same for every game, as Ohio State has for years.

Ohio State's opponents at Ohio Stadium this fall include Buffalo, San Diego State, Football Championship Subdivision member Florida A&M and Big Ten foes Wisconsin, Iowa, Penn State and Indiana.

There have already been some complaints from Ohio State fans about the increases to the university, Smith and call-in shows and in letters to the editor.

According to figures provided by Brett Scarbrough, Ohio State's assistant athletic director in charge of ticketing and premium seating, 48,000 season-ticket packages were sold last year to Ohio Stadium. Of that figure, faculty/staff represented 13,666 season packages and students bought 15,556.

Ohio Stadium is currently undergoing concrete resurfacing that required Ohio State to shift its annual spring football game to Cincinnati's Paul Brown Stadium, home of the NFL Bengals. The spring game is April 13.

Many of Ohio State's season-ticket packages require purchasers to first make major donations to the university.

Fees at the university's Scarlet and Gray golf courses will also rise by a small percentage.

Ohio State football tickets were just $43 in 2001 and have risen almost every year since: 2002 ($45), 2003 ($47), 2004 ($57), 2005 ($58), 2006 ($59), 2007 ($60), 2008 ($62), 2009 ($63), 2010-12 ($70).

http://collegefootball.ap.org/article/ohio-state-raises-ticket-prices-70-79

[SmoothPancakes]

Yep, heard about this from my uncle last week. He's been a season ticket owner for years and was talking about it.

[SmoothPancakes]

Umm, what the fuck? On College Football Live, they're saying that the Big 12 is gonna ask the NCAA for a waiver to be allowed to host a championship game. What the fuck's a point of a championship game with only 10 teams? Everyone already plays each other! There's your goddamn championship. Unless the Big 12 is planning on adding two teams in the next 12 months and are just looking to get the paperwork out of the way, I don't see how they get a conference championship game when everyone already plays each other.

[JeffHCross]

Ohio State raises ticket prices from $70 to $79Yep. :smh:

The premium games are the big deal to me, not the base price.

[JeffHCross]

Why Major Applewhite's affair with Texas student trainer came out four years later (http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/big12/2013/02/02/texas-longhorns-assistant-coach-major-applewhite-student-trainer-bev-kearney-scandal/1886861/)

[baseballplyrmvp]

the big10 is gonna stop scheduling fcs opponents? :o good for them.

[NatureBoy]

http://bloguin.com/crystalballrun/images/stories/InstagramPic.jpg

If you were wondering how Ole Miss was able to reel in the nation’s No. 7 overall class this season, 2014 linebacking recruit Clifton Garrett has your answer.

Garrett tweeted on Saturday that he had received 54 handwritten letters from Ole Miss in one mail delivery. Yes, 54 and all handwritten.

Wow.

#OleMiss aint playin no games!! 54 hand written letters today #RebelNation!! instagr.am/p/Vhdxt1NUzd/

— Clifton Garrett CG3 (@CG340) February 9, 2013

He took a picture of his Saturday haul, which also included letters from Nebraska, Notre Dame, Iowa, Georgia and Arizona State, but he specifically gave a shoutout to Ole Miss, which sent several Ole Miss fans to his Twitter page begging for his commitment to the Rebels.

This isn’t a big surprise to those who have been following Ole Miss’ recent recruiting tactics. Hugh Freeze and his staff blanket the country with verbal offers to the nation’s best recruits and hope several decide to take a chance. That’s how the Rebels were able to land the 2013 No. 1 and No. 5 overall recruits this past signing day.

Garrett is currently a four-star recruit from Plainfield South HS in Joliet, Ill. Ole Miss already has one four-star commitment for the 2014 class.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/recruit-clifton-garrett-receives-54-handwritten-letters-ole-182850955--ncaaf.html

[morsdraconis]

These kids are so fuckin' stupid. I wouldn't go to some school because they sent me a bunch of retarded letters in the mail. Infact, I'd specifically NOT go to them because they seem so damn desperate. All that wasted paper. :smh:

[JeffHCross]

I do agree that is a colossal waste.


the big10 is gonna stop scheduling fcs opponents? :o good for them.And going to a nine or ten game schedule.