Joe Montana Football (VR) - TBA

[GatorfanStovy]

Damn a mobile game, why?

[OLATHExSOONER]

I'm sure everyone hear has heard of the mystery that is Joe Montana Football 16. There's a lot of debate over whether it's a console game or a mobile game. I've noticed the absence of any thread about the game here on TGT, so I took it upon myself to start one here in the Madden section of the forum. I want your guys' thoughts. Does the fact that we might get a new football sim excite you? Especially because NCAA Football was this websites bread and butter, and now we might get an opportunity to make our own NCAA if this game is in fact on consoles, un-licensed, and fully customizable? Please gives thoughts guys. A lot of people think 2K is in on this, neither Damon Grow (the games creator or something) nor Joe Montana has denied 2K's involvement but they are quick to tell us that they aren't working with 2K. Again, thoughts, please, thank you.

[cdj]

Grow did tweet this Feb. 10:

Daily devotional in the office pic.twitter.com/eyFMgOGhe4

— Damon Grow (@DamonGrow) February 11, 2015

Intentional or otherwise, that's definitely a tease on several fronts. (2K involvement, console game, etc.)

[OLATHExSOONER]

I wish Damon and Joe would at least send out a tweet saying "This is mobile only" or "Hooray this is next gen." I honestly don't see why they wouldn't at least put that info out. It's not like they'd be revealing their master plan for the game.


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[OLATHExSOONER]

Also, if this turns out to be a mobile game, Damon Grow may have to enter Witness Protection.


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[OLATHExSOONER]

Hate to spam the thread here, but my bad for posting a thread about the absence of a thread that actually existed. Shows you how much I pay attention to detail.


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[Rudy]

I'd love to see some competition for Madden on next gen consoles. It will be awful tough though without the license. I'm guessing it's a mobile game but would welcome a console game. I loved 2K4, was disappointed with 2K5 and thought 2K8 was awful on the PS3 (horrible frame rates and without the real players and true customization it didn't feel great to me).

[souljahbill]

I played one quarter of the 2K college football game and haven't touched a 2K football game since. It was awful.

[skipwondah33]

I played one quarter of the 2K college football game and haven't touched a 2K football game since. It was awful.

Yeah I won 2K5 along with some other stuff in a tournament. Guys at the game store pumped it up so I took it home to try it....traded it in the very next day

[Rudy]

I played one quarter of the 2K college football game and haven't touched a 2K football game since. It was awful.

To be fair the college football game was supposed to be very different and very bad. 2K4 and 2K5 were a much better representation. 2K5 had HORRID cpu QB AI. In 2K4 they were a lot smarter but never threw deep. To fix the lack of deep passing they ruined the cpu QB AI and they were awful no matter what you did with the sliders. A game killer. Screen passes were also terrible. They did have lead passing and the DL play was light years ahead of Madden. Madden's current next gen engine may finally be catching up to that. The presentation and commentary was also FAR better than Madden and the weekly wrap-up show has yet to be rivaled.

[OLATHExSOONER]

Never really played any off the old NCAA 2K games. I've only played NFL 2K5 and that game is leaps and bounds ahead of current madden games IMO.


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[OLATHExSOONER]

Damon Grow just tweeted about how Franchise Mode was gonna be a big focus in JM16


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[steelerfan]

To be fair the college football game was supposed to be very different and very bad. 2K4 and 2K5 were a much better representation. 2K5 had HORRID cpu QB AI. In 2K4 they were a lot smarter but never threw deep. To fix the lack of deep passing they ruined the cpu QB AI and they were awful no matter what you did with the sliders. A game killer. Screen passes were also terrible. They did have lead passing and the DL play was light years ahead of Madden. Madden's current next gen engine may finally be catching up to that. The presentation and commentary was also FAR better than Madden and the weekly wrap-up show has yet to be rivaled.

Wait. What?

The college football game was supposed to be very bad?

Waaaaaat?

#TheScriptIsDead

[Rudy]

Wait. What?

The college football game was supposed to be very bad?

Waaaaaat?

#TheScriptIsDead

I never played it. Barely remember the thing but everything I've read about that game was that it was different from nfl 2K and terrible.

[steelerfan]

I never played it. Barely remember the thing but everything I've read about that game was that it was different from nfl 2K and terrible.

Now I understand what you were saying.

When I first read that it was "supposed....to be bad", I thought you meant that you thought it was intentionally made to be a terrible game.

#TheScriptIsDead

[Rudy]

I understand now.

[Rudy]

This was an interesting post on OS. Nobody knows how accurate (if at all). But it claims Joe Montana Football will be an NFL console game exclusive to XBox and PC due to first party exclusive rules (like MLB the Show). Says it will be out in July. I would love to have real competition for Madden. NOT happy if this is true and it's an XBox exclusive though. I do not want to buy another console for one game (I guess Tomb Raider too).
http://www.operationsports.com/forum...6&postcount=94

I'm sorry, but I can't sit by and watch this any longer.

I love and respect a number of people working on this game and having met the man and hung around him a number of times I have a profound respect for Mr. Montana. He's just a great person. But I disagree with how they're dealing with the public and how they plan to continue to do so. You just have no idea how long they're planning to drag even basic info out.

I'm not on the team and I'm not under an NDA so I'm not under any obligation to keep anything I know a secret. There are some things going on that gamers need to know about now, and the way they've planned to do these things just isn't reasonable. What I'm about to tell you are things they literally only plan to tell you about 3-4 weeks before release and I'm sorry, you don't deserve to be strung along like that.

I know you won't believe me, but I can assure you this is accurate, and in time you will see these truths unfold. I feel you need to know so you can prepare as a gamer (save up money, make arrangements and plans, etc).

- First and foremost, this game will be for XBOX One and PC only. This is why they haven't mentioned platforms. They're taking early advantage of the Windows 10 cross-plat tech and the game will be out as part of 10's 3-month launch cycle in the middle of this year.

So now that you know, you can make plans to purchase an XBOX One or Windows 10 if you don't have one of them already.

- The game is called Joe Montana NFL Football 16. This is an NFL game. First-party stipulations that the NFL has always left open & the NFL's exclusive relationship with Microsoft allows for Microsoft to have an NFL game. Microsoft Studios is the publisher. Microsoft is deadly serious about gaining ground and winning the console war (doubtful to happen at this point though) and throwing tons of money at incubation and trying to buy new IP that they can turn into big series' titles is top priority for them right now. They believe this game can be many times bigger than MLB The Show due to the larger NFL fanbase, and because so many XBOX One owners identify as serious NFL fans.

- The game was demoed and it went well. Actually, "well" is an understatement. People went crazy. NDA's were and still are in place for them. That's why you haven't heard anyone saying anything, but a lot of people are having a very hard time because what they seen was unbelievable and it's been impossible to go back to Madden or even take Madden seriously after that. It's like, how you felt when you had an NES and you saw Sega Genesis for the first time. The step up in quality is THAT big.

- They put those things up on artforgames in hopes that you would find it, especially the NFL stuff. It took a little longer than initially thought, but you found them eventually, and when they saw you found it they took it all down just as they did when they realized people found their job posting last year. They already had their team in place, the posting was a bone. All of this has been staged well.

- They're not asking for ideas because it's an NFL game and they don't feel there is a lot of room for the type of creativity you'd need in an unlicensed game. When they first started out before iMFL they were considering a non-NFL licensed game and were going to approach dealing with the community differently with polls, a message board, etc. but things changed once NFL was confirmed.

- 2K is involved. Should be obvious from some tweets/re-tweets and comments both Joe Montana and Damon Grow have made. Some tech and manpower was purchased from 2K and is deeply incorporated into this game.

- The franchise mode will be able to be managed on mobile devices and it's really deep.

- The iMFL app was never meant to be released. Its entire production was a prototyping run for its franchise mode and management system with the intent of using it in Joe Montana NFL Football 16. Even the TechCrunch interview was part of the staging. It was brilliant. Everybody bought the staging. So, don't wait for that app, it's never coming.

- There are a few important modes. One is a story mode and it's pretty cool. Think NBA 2K My Player. That's what you're getting.

-The graphics, animations and AI are all obscenely good and modern. It looks like a game that was built for this new generation, not just a port over from last generation with a ton of sloppy tweaks. The animations are easily the most crisp of any sports game ever made. Comparing the animations to Madden, it's going make Madden look like a PS1 game by comparison. This is going to be embarrassing for EA Tiburon, like The Show Vs MLB 2K and NBA 2K vs NBA Live embarrassing.

- Expect Joe Montana NFL Football 16 out in Mid-late July.

I apologize to the team making this game and to Mr. Montana, but I feel that with just 4 months until release and a reveal schedule that really just strings everybody along unnecessarily, it was only right to tell people the truth so they can be prepared with enough time to act. Again, I'm deeply sorry but I know I'm doing the right thing.

[OLATHExSOONER]

There's no way that post is true. I don't believe it for one second. I will pleasantly surprised and also disappointed if this is true. I'm a PS4 owner, so this is bittersweet. However, I still don't believe any of it.


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[Rudy]

Definitely food for thought. There does seem to be a 2K connection though with the tweets showing 2K football. It would be great if it was fully licensed. I could even live without a great franchise mode. Just getting a change of pace is a great thing.

I really miss the days of having options. I don't even have an NCAA vs. NFL option on next gen. With these next gen sports titles improving slowly, the annual purchase of the same thing gets stale.

[OLATHExSOONER]

I definitely think everything in the post COULD be true. But I refuse to believe it until it's confirmed. I'm like you though, I miss the options.


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