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With presentation details now disclosed, use this thread to ask any Presentation related questions of community event attendees.
Keep in mind that the last time we played the game was early March and numerous elements were not fully implemented at that time.
We will answer questions to the best of our abilities.
How much material did they add for the half-time show? My biggest worry/fear is that it is going to get old/stale quickly.
Are the in-game instudio updates still in this year? Did they add any commentary to it from last year?
The half-time show was not in the March build.Quote:
Originally Posted by CLW
As of March, Studio Updates still in. Work has been done to make sure they do not interrupt drives. New commentary was not in the March build.
Any games shown in Studio Updates will be in the end-of-game dynamic load screen so you can see the final score.
How much are we able to do in the creation of neutral-site games? Can we make any non-conference opponent a neutral-site game? Is it just limited to the kickoff classics, CCGs and bowl games?
This wasn't 100% as of March, but here is what I believe that plan to be: You can schedule any game at any FBS stadium - provided there isn't already a game at that stadium that week.Quote:
Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes
I guess I should've put this over here:
My question here is does any of this matter? If I call 34 Under and the defense calls out the offensive strength do they now align correctly? Can I now set a strongside and weakside linebacker? Or is all this just chatter to increase "presentation"?Quote:
Originally Posted by cdj
I wasn't aware that was even in until this morning (a lot of presentation stuff still wasn't in in March) but my speculation is that it's purely presentation...Quote:
Originally Posted by Oneback
Excellent! As long as it's set so we can schedule non-conference games as a neutral-site game at any (open) stadium, then that works for me. It'll give me a chance to every once and a while get out of the same old, same old home/away cycle of scheduling. Especially if I have a rivalry "grow" during my dynasty and I personally consider a team to be a rivalry after a couple years, even if the game doesn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by cdj
Now that moves Dynamic Rivalries up my list, so that the game actually will consider those games to be rivalries in the game. Or make it so we can create our own rivalries.
Is the chatter purely pre-snap or could we finally hear assignment changes being called out during the play? Like when LB's change up their coverage responsibilities when in man coverage?
I am unsure of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by ryby6969
As you guys can probably tell from the answers, a lot of presentation changes were not in the build we played.
In a quick e-mail from EA, we know that the vast majority of presentation features and improvements were added in the last four weeks.
Though, keep the questions coming. If we do not know the answer, we'll try to find it if future media/blogs from the devs do not give you your answer.
Hey guys,
New to your site, and am a regular OS poster. I want to copy and paste a post of mine from OS and put it here because I would like to get your thoughts. It really surprises me that EA does not put more attention on crowd atmospher and crowd AI. IMO, the crowd energy and interaction is 70% of what makes watching football games so fun. I would like to understand your thoughts on crowd audio, and maybe this is something you guys could push next time you go down, for future iterations. Thanks!
I wish EA would stop being so obsessive with crowd chants, when the actual crwod audio itself has been horrible for years. For me, the biggest part of presentation that makes a sports game exciting is to have a crowd that sounds like a real stadium crowd.
Not only does the crowd need to ebb and flow, and sound like a real crowd. They also need to fix the crowd AI and have the crowd react APPROPRIATELY TO SITUATIONS ON THE FIELD.
-On 3rd down the crowd should be going ballistic.
-On a deep pass there should be a gasp and sense of excitement while the ball is in the air, followed by an appropriate crowd reaction depending on who comes down with the ball.
-During a big running play the crowd should build with excitement as the play develops
-During a Touchdown or turnover the crowd should be erupting with cheers, or hear a heavy sigh and level of quiet if its the opposing team.
-Before big drives like a 2 minute drive or end of game scenario, the crowd should be laser focused and into it.
-Between plays the crowd should be much more docile and calm, and not the constant drone we always hear all game long.
-If a big hit occurs there should be a loud gasp from the crowd, followed by cheers if its the home team
I really wish EA would understand the importance of this. Having realistic crowd AI, and a great sounding crowd with all the high and lows, ebbs and flows, and energy of a real crowd would do wonders for their product.
EDIT: Also, please make the "Pump Up The Crowd" feature work. It should be situationally dependant depending on the down or situation. But when I pump up the crowd I want it to feel like the crowd is reacting. Go to a Ravens game and watch a 3rd down play where the defense is pumping up the crowd.
Hey ch - good stuff and agree completely. From what I understand, crowd noise will be getting some improvements in 14. It sounded like the audio team made some strides between NCAA 13 & Madden 13 in crowd noise (Madden crowd was better IMO) plus the standard improvements with another year to build on. I don't think the final crowd audio was in for the March event. (The main focus of that event was Dynasty/Gameplay, but we definitely talked to Christian & the presentation team about their plans and what was going in.)
Pumping Up the Crowd is a weird one. For some reason it seemed like it didn't work in 13. I'll see if we can find out if it will be improved in 14.
We have been given the green light to discuss/announce Alternate Camera Angles. There are four camera angles to select: Regular, Zoom (closer behind ball-carrier), Wide, Broadcast (overhead/blimp but will dynamically zoom in on action based on result & is basically a hybrid between Blimp and Sky cam).
I do want to say, the Presentation in game definitely received significant additions. Last May, a member on OS (DorianDonP) put together an excellent resource showcasing real-life presentation. I don't know specifics as to how it looks/works in NCAA14 but I know that in playing in March, a lot of what he shows in his real-life examples were starting to show up in the game. It was still very much a work in progress (very little was in the build we played) but you could get the feel that this is what they were targeting.
Hopefully we see more about that in the coming weeks.
So now we have outfitter specific footballs. It'd be nice if they could put the schools logo on their respective balls though.
I have seen people in the OS forums asking about a few things so I figured I'd ask them here. Are there dreads in the game? There aren't any visible in any screenshots. Has the weather improved to make rainy games look more realistic? Are there any new facemasks or cleats in the game? Are the pre-game intros the same every time or is the montage more like NBA 2k in that way too, dynamic?
So all new FBS schools have their stadiums included?
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Originally Posted by cdj
Question on the cameras. Will you still be able to use the player lock on defense with these camera angles. I like Zoom (Madden) on offense but on defense it really is distracting since you can barely see your player and they really should have the option to at least flip the camera around.
With the new weather changes will we finally see different weather events during the game (sunny to rain to no rain, etc).
Snow, will it accumulate over time?
Chain Crew? Had to ask.
Just asked this in presentation but moving it here1: Camera Angle Questions: HA! Camera angles should've blown this thread up but as I suspected you get them the info on it and nobody cares. :fp: Here's a question I have on them, can you and another user play different angles in user/user OD game based on your preference? Or do both players have to play on the generic angle.Quote:
Originally Posted by cdj
2: New Footballs question: The multiple football's are a pretty sweet touch, one I had never really thought of. Might go under the category of things you may never see, but does each team also have their logo on the football like IRL. It's similar to the gloves imo, to where unless you're looking you probably won't notice, but would be a nice touch. Also, do the football's change per possession for the team involved, or does every team use the "home team's" football?
3: Neutral Site question: I'm a little surprised Qwest field didn't get added, since WSU plays a "home game" there every season. Guess I'll just have to play it at Husky Stadium, but the question is can you do a "home" neutral game? Where a team logo and both endzones are dedicated to one team? Or are all neutral site games half and half with no logo regardless?
4: ESPN Living Game Clock question: Will this run between plays in a no-huddle as well? Hopefully?
5: Uniform updates questions: (1) Will there actually be FREE uni-updates to match REGULAR uniforms this season AND will there be MORE smaller ones with a couple jerseys just to get as many in as possible? It was just about pointless in 13 as they said they were going to regularly update them and we got three updates way spread out. They really all should be free but I know the special 'one time' unis won't be. (2) Also, when will we know who received an update going into release? (3) Did WSU get an update to their uniforms? The EA team got them in record time a couple years ago but they were never totally correct, he changes that need to be made have been documented in the uniforms thread. (4) In OD are we finally able to change the away team's CPU uniform?
6: Crowd question: I feel like the crowd looks different, like the models were sized up or the stadiums were touched up or something. I've been thinking this for several screen shots but wanted to see more. Is there anything to that? Were they able to render up the crowd and stadium aspects of the game by taking it out of the front end menus.
7: South Alabama question: Why are there several yellow clad fans in the USA screen shot?
8: Pregame questions: Speaking of rendering, I love the new menus. Retro and speedy is good to me and much preferred. The old menus were cool but it took 10 minutes to get to a game and that's just ridiculous. Since they are doing the new montages for pregame, were they finally able to add them for OD user games?
9: Martin Stadium? I'm now sad because I think the answer is "NO", but did the Wazzu renovation to the press box get added? If not I fear it will be another 2 years (NCAA 16) before we at WSU see our update. With the OPS building now going up in the endzone and not scheduled to be completed till next summer, I don't see them visiting WSU for anything until that's completed and games are played in 2015. Meanwhile, Husky Stadium will likely be updated for NCAA 15, even though they started their renovations after us, because they did there's in one phase, not 2. IMO we should've gotten a renovation update for 14 and then again in '16. The change is HUGELY dramatic for Wazzu and would make a big difference. Here's the comparison photo (the red is the old PB and is no longer there, just cropped in for effect).
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BGigqP5CcAET6uR.jpg
10: Preplay chatter/timing/celebrations: A cool addition is the preplay chatter for me, even though it's pretty minor. In order to get the full effect, teams have to take their time at the LOS. Does the cpu still snap too quickly or do they wait and 'check over the defense' for this small addition to get it's full effect? Are the celebrations more dynamic and are there NEW celebrations included (is that the "500 new vignettes")? My thought is that, that is what they were going for when Ben talks about trying to speed up that part of the game but still make it look fresh.
Will ask more if I think of it.
Yup forgot to ask about weather. Good questionQuote:
Originally Posted by bdoughty
Dreads from last year should be in. Unsure of new ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by jpdavis1982
Unsure of any weather changes.
Unsure on facemask changes. Pretty sure cleats are the same, but those are not my specialty. (I can notice stadium & uni changes; not good with shoes.)
Pre-game intro should be different each time (or at least a variety). The components may be the same - intro from Rece, action/entrance clips, text wipes, music video - but I would assume getting different songs plus what clips are played would keep it from being 100% exact every time. We saw a mock-up in January, but the full version was not in the March build.
I think UMass (Gillette Stadium) is the only generic.Quote:
Originally Posted by OSUCowboyofMD
- I believe so. Not sure why you wouldn't be able to use player lock.Quote:
Originally Posted by bdoughty
- I don't believe Dynamic Weather is in. (That's one of my personal top presentation requests, BTW.) I think snow lands the same.
- Didn't see a chain crew.
1. Good question. Let me look into it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jayrah
2. Pretty sure no logo. I believe the image posted today of the footballs are exactly what you will see in-game & replays.
3. If I understand your question correctly, you can not assign your home stadium to be a neutral game. If you pick it as the location, it will just be a normal home game. As of March, their were working to get the field art to have the swappable bowl art for each team in-game.
4. I believe so. The living clock was in the game, but limited in data it was pulling in.
5. No clue. I think we will have to go off of screenshots to know; perhaps we can ask for a listing closer to release. No clue. No; that item is on the team's radar, however.
6. I don't think anything was done to the crowd audience models.
7. I assume there was an issue with crowd colors in that build, hence very few crowd members being shown. They could be part of the small % of fans in each stadium who wear neutral (non-team) colors. Could be from an early build as you can see an error with Georgia State's unis - shoulder numbers overlap shoulder stripes.
8. I don't believe they added them for user v user games. I can see why people would want it, but I also think EA & many users want to get in & out of online games ASAP to minimize the chance of a disconnection.
9. No clue. Hopefully we can get a list (or plethora of images) of stadium changes in the month leading up to the next Playbook release.
10. Unsure on CPU snapping. I think the new vignettes will be used all throughout the game: pre-game video montage, in-game celebration vignettes, post-game reactions, etc. I think you are right - this is part of the goal to keep the game fresh. At the March event, Christian mentioned that they aimed to reduce over-played vignettes from 13.
Thanks Chris. My question on neutral site game was actually opposite what you were answering. My question is can you assign an away stadium as a "home" game and get the "home" field art any given week (still assuming that team didn't have home game that week). That would of course replace a neutral site game for the week.
Another question that just popped up: With the new mechanic of assigning "neutral" site games, do we now have control over in-conference games as well in scheduling?
Did Arizona's stadium upgrades make it in (new scoreboard, north end zone expansion)?
How often are we going to get uniform updates? Last year was a complete fail.
- I think I'm being dense on this one. Let me explain how it works in-game and if I am not answering it correctly, ask again with some specific teams to get through my thick skull. ;) The Neutral Site Games feature exists (as of early March, at least) within Custom Schedules. Currently, you highlight a match-up and toggle left/right to change vs./away. Now, if you press Square/X you can select what stadium for the game to be played at for the NSG. I believe the vs./away factors in to determine the home & away team for the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jayrah
If you are asking whether you can set the NSG to be at the Away team's stadium and get dual-team field art...I suppose it would just change it so the Away team is now the Home team and get the standard field art. I can double check, but that is what it does if you try it for the home team.
- For your team? Yes. You could put WSU vs. Cal at Sam Boyd Stadium (UNLV) - provided UNLV doesn't have a home game that week.
- Re: AZ. I do not know if I am at liberty to disclose field art/stadium updates. Let me see if I can get the green light as I do know about UAs videoboard & field art. (I'm not sure on expansion, however.)Quote:
Originally Posted by kabbey520
- I have not heard any concrete details on the Uniform Store, but saw a preview today that said they hoped to have more updates this year.
From Operation Sports:
On the equipment side of things, the team has added gloves and base layers this year. The NCAA team has also added many of the uniforms missing from last year and more for this year. Also, uniforms are getting more support for post-launch eqipment additions.
For example Cal just announced new uniforms at their Spring game, but they won't be available on disc. However, Cal's new uniforms likely will be added post launch, but there was no mention if there will be a cost.
OK, not sure of what your answering so here's a team example lol. Presuming WSU would be the home team for the week, if I set WSU vs Oregon at Husky Stadium, is there a way to set that as a WSU home game with only WSU field art just like it were at Martin Stadium? Or does it strictly have to be a NSG because it's not the Cougs' official home site?
Vice Versa, could I go play Arizona in the Alamo Dome as the Away team where their field art covers both end zones and midfield, or will that automatically be set up as a half/half NSG.
So basically can you have a TRUE home game at an off-site, or will anything not on your home field be set as a NSG?
Also, for the uniform store, I hope they REALLY step it up this year. Anything like the new Cal uniform should be a day 1 post release launch and it should be FREE, since it's their new regular jersey.
And WHOA WHOA WHOA, you know about AZ videoboard and field art yet not the WSU press box upgrade? :D
I understand now! Picking any non-home stadium will give you the field art for both teams. I think I answered every variation of the question except for what you were actually asking.
I know.....:( I'll make a push in a few weeks for details on stadium updates in the game.
LOL :) thanks for the depth. On stadiums, they said they got to 30 stadiums for chants and such. Are stadium updates ALWAYS and ONLY in that group of attended stadiums? If so we can just say who got touched and who didn't based on the 30 sites they attended.Quote:
Originally Posted by cdj
so its basically a bowl game setup? would that make the crowd split 50/50 as well?Quote:
Originally Posted by cdj
I believe so. I don't think there is any logic for crowd make-up.Quote:
Originally Posted by baseballplyrmvp
No. Stadium updates will occur for any stadium, but they will wait until the major renovations are complete and go on-site to use their fancy laser scanner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jayrah
It is a completely different crew that records audio from those who visit stadiums for updates. Any two jabronis can go to a stadium and record the audio, but they send out some devs (and maybe contractors?) to scan and photograph stadiums.
The logic for the crowd should be geographical location. Example: Im playin with OH. ST in cowboys stadium against texas. TExas should have more fans.
:+1:Quote:
Originally Posted by dhook27
it'd be nice too, if not every game was a sellout.
While that would be nice, you're talking about a whole bunch of extra programming to determine how much crowd is for what team.Quote:
Originally Posted by dhook27
Can you also set the time of day for the game or is it set like in previous years?Quote:
Originally Posted by cdj
This. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by cdj
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Originally Posted by dhook27
not every closer team has the crowd advantage. in the wisconsin/tcu rose bowl game a few years ago, wisconsin probably had 60% of the fans, despite being 500 miles farther away from pasadena than tcu.Quote:
Originally Posted by souljahbill
however, a dynamic travelling crowd size wouldnt have to be super complicated. i just hate seeing the crowd being 95% for the home team and only 5% for the away team.
I say just split it 50/50 and be done with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by baseballplyrmvp
This :easy: Then have the closer (geographical) team be the "home" team or allow the user to set the "home" team.Quote:
Originally Posted by souljahbill
Are there new team entrances this year?
If so, do you know if Louisville's entrance made it in this year?
And did Louisville's new field design make it into the game?
http://www.cardchronicle.com/2013/4/...rdinal-stadium
I cannot post attachments so here is the link to the article showing what the new design will look like.
Thank you in advance
Watching the MSU spring game has me wishing spring games would come back to the series... pointless yes but great for my personal immersion.