• NCAA Football 11 - Dynasty Blog 1 of 3: Phone Call

    The newest NCAA Football 11 blog details the changes to the phone call aspect of Recruiting in Dynasty mode:

    Hey NCAA Fans! Russ here and I'm back to discuss a crowd favorite. We are now less than two months away from the July 13th release of NCAA Football 11. Personally, I'm very excited about all the details we already talked about with game play and presentation. The game is looking really good right now and the team is working hard to finish in these last couple months.

    One of the most asked questions at every event, forum, and live chat we've done so far this year is "What is new with Dynasty?" Well I'm happy to finally be able to answer that question and provide you with a lot of the details in Dynasty Mode. But with all the enhancements this year, Dynasty will be broken down into 3 different blogs; this is the first about the new Phone Call in NCAA Football 11.

    One of the areas we felt would add the most to the Dynasty experience was a new Phone Call with recruits. The goal was to make each call more fun, a lot faster, and just a better experience all around. Much of the same concepts are still around when calling prospects. For example, your school will have the same 14 pitch types and the prospect has his rating of each, as well. The major difference is now you'll need to find a way to maneuver through each call so you can maximize the amount of points you earn.

    At the start of each call you'll be presented with an option to select how many Topics you wish to have. You can pick from 1 to 6 topics that cost 10 minutes for each prospect every week. Every week you'll still have 10 hours for Recruiting like in previous years of NCAA Football; so you choose how much and which prospects to spend your time on.

    Once you select how many topics you would like to discuss with the prospect, the phone call will begin and your first topic will be presented to you:



    There are a lot of ways to go about dealing with each Topic you are presented with. If it's something your school is good at, making that pitch is often a good move; or you can try to compare yourself up against another school that the Prospect is interested in to earn your school some points and take some away from your rivals.

    Make Pitch will always earn you points, but it is very dependent on your program's grade and how important the topic is to the Prospect. The only way to know the importance of a pitch is to find it.

    Find Pitch will always tell you how important a pitch is to that Prospect; unlock the score range and it will earn you some points. Here you can see an example of one of the score ranges for a topic that has been found:



    You'll never need to find a pitch. However, knowing what the Prospect thinks can help you maximize your score. This also opens the ability to sway the pitch.

    Sway Pitch becomes available after you know how important a topic is to the Prospect. This option gives you a chance to convince the Prospect that this pitch should be more important to him. You'll want to focus on trying to sway pitches that are best for you school. The reason for this is it gives you a much better chance of scoring points because the more a Prospect cares about something, the more points you can earn.

    Compare Pitch replaces Downplay from last year's game, and can be one of the most powerful options available. Compare Pitch puts your grade vs. another school's grade and how much the Prospect cares about the pitch all together to give you points as well as remove points from the school you selected. Because of that we show you the grades of each school so it's easy to see:



    The further you out-class your opponent the more points you will take from them. Your score will not be affected, however. So you'll have to decide if it's more important for you to target a rival and bring them down, or keep gaining as many points as you can and hope you catch up (or stay ahead!).

    Change Topic is the first example of one of the outs you have in dealing with a topic your school might not be good at. Each call will give you 3 times you can change the topic (there is one exception to this I'll explain later); so you can feel free to use it every call because they come back. Change Topic will give you another roll at a topic; but, there is a chance you could get a topic you've already passed on. Based on the length of the call and how good your school's Pitches are will dictate how often you use Change Topic. Smaller schools with lower scores may find themselves out of Change Topics often.

    Make Promise is finally not just an off-season recruiting tool. If you don't like the topic you're given, another way to get around talking about it is to offer a promise; this will consume the topic and give you points. You can only offer 3 Promises to any single Prospect and if you do not keep your promises you'll start to lose what you can promise. Promises work off their own score range based on what you are promising.For example, saying you'll win a National Title is a lot more impressive then telling a prospect he won't red shirt his first year.

    Schedule Visit is similar to previous years of NCAA Football. You pick a home game (or bye week) for the Prospect to come to your campus and you earn points based on how well you match up his Activities and how well you play that week. The big difference is this is now considered an out, which means once you Schedule a Visit that topic has been used. Also, you can no longer reschedule visits. Your'e now held accountable for what you tell a Prospect on the phone.

    Offer Scholarship is the last option in a Phone Call. Like the previous two options, it uses the Topic, so you can Offer a Scholarship on a bad Topic for your school to get around talking about it. But you can only offer it once to a Prospect.

    Once you figure out what you are going to do on a topic, you instantly get to know how much you scored on the Topic Results screen:



    Two things to notice on the above screen shot is the Call Tracker at the top of the screen and the Pipeline Bonus under the points gained. The Call Tracker will show you how many topics you have left (6 in the example), the current pitch, and what you have scored on your previous topics. Based on your Pipeline States in Dynasty you can earn extra bonus points if the Prospect you are calling is from one of those states. This is now shown to you on the Topic Results screen so you can see how many extra points you are scoring for Making, Finding, Swaying, or Comparing a pitch.

    When you are done with a Call you are given a Call Recap screen (this is the same screen you'll see if you quick call as well):



    This is an example of a call with 5 of the options you can perform.

    Now that you can really see how many points you are scoring in each call we made a change to the Prospects Top Schools screen to help you:



    You can now see how many points you are behind (or ahead) of every school in the Top 10 for every Prospect. Also you can access this screen during a call to help you decide on your course of action during a call.

    Well that's it for Dynasty Blog 1 of 3: Phone Call. Thanks for taking the time to read it. I hope you'll enjoy the new Phone Calls as much as we do. Keep checking back here for the next two parts.

    -Russ Kiniry
    Designer NCAA Football 11
    Comments 71 Comments
    1. joshuahuskers's Avatar
      joshuahuskers -
      Sounds pretty cool, but, I'm a little disappointed the topics come at your randomly. I can see the recruit wanting to talk about what's important to him (even if my school sucks at it, so then I'm SOL), but if it's low on the recruits priority list, and my school sucks at it, why would it even come up in conversation? I think the recruit should steer things towards his priorities, while I should be able to try to steer the conversation towards what my school is good at. Or maybe it is like that, and the "new topics" aren't completely random?
    1. Deuce's Avatar
      Deuce -
      I'm excited about the changes. Anything that changes things up. At the very least it'll take a season to become a 'good' recruiter which improves dynasty.
    1. xGRIDIRONxGURUx's Avatar
      xGRIDIRONxGURUx -
      Quote Originally Posted by joshuahuskers View Post
      Sounds pretty cool, but, I'm a little disappointed the topics come at your randomly. I can see the recruit wanting to talk about what's important to him (even if my school sucks at it, so then I'm SOL), but if it's low on the recruits priority list, and my school sucks at it, why would it even come up in conversation? I think the recruit should steer things towards his priorities, while I should be able to try to steer the conversation towards what my school is good at. Or maybe it is like that, and the "new topics" aren't completely random?
      you have to remember, if he starts off with something low, use one of your 3 "outs" and see if he will follow... they start it, but you can still direct them... as for the clarity of everything, i think a chat session would be good for them to do because this blog is "ok" but not the clearest thing ever presented...

      maybe they will drop one on us soon...

      "E"
    1. Kwizzy's Avatar
      Kwizzy -
      Quote Originally Posted by PISTOLxCOACH View Post
      as for the clarity of everything, i think a chat session would be good for them to do because this blog is "ok" but not the clearest thing ever presented...

      maybe they will drop one on us soon...

      "E"
      If I was EA, I might even take this one step further & release a video showing someone making a couple of calls to recruits. Seems like that could clear up things more than any chat could.
    1. Coachdenz's Avatar
      Coachdenz -
      yes a video would be good, after reading this at lunch and thinking about it makes me wonder if I will like it this way or the old way better....guess it don't matter. I just really want to see Coaches get involved in this game in some form, recruiting is about relationships with Players and Coaches so I like being able to spend a ton of time on players in NCAA 10 where I can only spend what 1 hour now, this might take some getting use to.
    1. Rudy's Avatar
      Rudy -
      I like the new screens. I also like the fact that the recruits can dictate part of the conversation. Adds a different twist. Sounds good so far.

      I really hope discipline makes a return to. I loved that in the past. Just don't limit me to how many points I can use to discipline my players. Let me be a hard ass and just have that affect my coaching reputation.
    1. Jayrah's Avatar
      Jayrah -
      Quote Originally Posted by Coachdenz View Post
      yes a video would be good, after reading this at lunch and thinking about it makes me wonder if I will like it this way or the old way better....guess it don't matter. I just really want to see Coaches get involved in this game in some form, recruiting is about relationships with Players and Coaches so I like being able to spend a ton of time on players in NCAA 10 where I can only spend what 1 hour now, this might take some getting use to.
      Not sure what a video would tell you that isn't clear. This is the 1st blog that REALLY went in depth about everything they talked about. I loved it.

      Coaching is about relationships, but the ncaa has time and numerical constraints on calls and visits. This simulates ncaa regulations well. Not to mention, now that you can go through 1 topic in 10 minutes, you don't have to worry too much about spending that time. In previous seasons, you could spend 40 minutes or an hour on 1 topic, and then you went to next topic if you had enough time. Now you get to manage time per topic. You don't lose the topic effectiveness, you can now just put 10 minutes into the topic instead of a random amount.
    1. cdj's Avatar
      cdj -
      This new system does take some time to get used to, but I think people will like it. A video would probably help explain it a little more clearly. I know when I first saw it at the CE, I had Ben Haumiller sitting next to me and I had him walk me through it. I'm sure either EA, or a media site (or community member) who gets the game early, will put up a vid so it becomes easier to grasp.
    1. JeffHCross's Avatar
      JeffHCross -
      Quote Originally Posted by Iron Dragon View Post
      From the looks of it, those stupid faces are gone. I think the interface looks better and hopefully the process of recruiting is too.
      Thank goodness.
      Quote Originally Posted by JBHuskers View Post
      Notice how this is only blog one of three? We're not even close to being done yet. There. My first tease on The Gaming Tailgate
      You f-ing woman. I swear dude.

      J/k, the first thing I noticed was that it was Blog 1 of 3. Can't wait.
      Quote Originally Posted by Jayrah View Post
      Not sure what a video would tell you that isn't clear.
      It's all clear, but a video couldn't hurt. When you're talking about a completely new interface, seeing it in action is always a plus. As well, if you look back through some of the replies (including mine), there were some aspects that, while the blog made clear, wasn't 100% understood. Namely topics coming at random, how the Skips work, etc.

      It all makes sense, but it's a lot to take in. Especially because, in a way, everything we learned the past two years is gone.
    1. Jayrah's Avatar
      Jayrah -
      Quote Originally Posted by JeffHCross View Post
      It's all clear, but a video couldn't hurt. When you're talking about a completely new interface, seeing it in action is always a plus. As well, if you look back through some of the replies (including mine), there were some aspects that, while the blog made clear, wasn't 100% understood. Namely topics coming at random, how the Skips work, etc.

      It all makes sense, but it's a lot to take in. Especially because, in a way, everything we learned the past two years is gone.
      Idk, read it more than once? LOL. No, I joke, you're right a vid couldn't hurt. Actually I was ALL sorts of confused until about 2/3 of the way through, and then it all made sense as it tied together.
    1. cdj's Avatar
      cdj -
      Quote Originally Posted by coogrfan View Post
      There are several posters over at OS who are disapointed because they feel this point system takes some of the mystery and excitement out of the recruitng process (" I hope its not like, oh I have 500 points and the other team has 499 points so I automatically win.").

      I would be interested to know the CD guys thoughts on this.
      That's a good question. I'm not sure there's a clear-cut answer.

      While some of the mystery is gone, there needed to be an improved way of telling how far behind you are in recruiting. Right now, it was tough to tell how far behind you were according to the meters except by the colors - but then you could only get a general feel of where you stood.

      With the new system, I think there's still a lot of mystery in knowing how far behind you can be yet still work and land a recruit. It will now be tougher considering you can't talk to one recruit for hours on end each week. It'll be interesting to see who can land a coveted recruit when trailing by hundreds of points mid-season.

      JB and G were also correct in that you have to remember that the CPU will be recruiting players each week as well, so even if you trail by 499 and get 500 points, you could still go into next week down 499 (or more or less).

      At first I wasn't sure I liked the points showing, but it grew on me during the event. Who knows how that plays out for an entire Dynasty Mode though. If the CPU recruiting is aggressive and coherent in its attack, I don't think it will be a huge issue.
    1. Kwizzy's Avatar
      Kwizzy -
      Quote Originally Posted by cdj View Post
      If the CPU recruiting is aggressive and coherent in its attack, I don't think it will be a huge issue.
      I think for me, that's the only thing left that I would really like to see improved in recruiting. If the CPU can recruit at least semi-realistically & make it tougher for me to land a class full of 4 & 5 star guys that's enough. I'm interested to see how all this plays out. The more I think about this blog, the more sense it makes to me. Sounds like it should work out nicely.

      CDJ you wanna throw your hat into the JB style tease business & give us something to pick apart for these other 2 dynasty blogs to come?
    1. cdj's Avatar
      cdj -
      Quote Originally Posted by Kwizzy View Post
      CDJ you wanna throw your hat into the JB style tease business & give us something to pick apart for these other 2 dynasty blogs to come?
      Ha, no. I want you guys to be caught off-guard for each and every announcement.
    1. Coachdenz's Avatar
      Coachdenz -
      Quote Originally Posted by cdj View Post
      Ha, no. I want you guys to be caught off-guard for each and every announcement.
      I think that's a tease right there
    1. Jayrah's Avatar
      Jayrah -
      I posted this thought on the recruiting on Utopia moments ago:
      They didn't expand so I doubt that any promises were added, but I wonder what it would be like to have some promises be for the CURRENT season, while your recruiting them. Or at least tie it into the promise for next season. For example I promise a kid in week 5 that we are going to win X-amount of games this year, and we're building, and by his JR year we'll be at least top #15 and win a conference title. Something to that effect.

      And separately on the PLUS side of that CDJ (non) tease, I think that means the other 2 won't be about recruiting.
    1. champ195797's Avatar
      champ195797 -
      I'm excited about the changes and hopefully we'll get a video soon
    1. champ195797's Avatar
      champ195797 -
      Quote Originally Posted by cdj View Post
      Ha, no. I want you guys to be caught off-guard for each and every announcement.
      LOL i guess that only works on JB
    1. xGRIDIRONxGURUx's Avatar
      xGRIDIRONxGURUx -
      CDJ is classy, and doesnt tease easily... on the other hand JB is a tease like the ones that your parent warn you about in high school...



      =)

      "E"
    1. JBHuskers's Avatar
      JBHuskers -
      Quote Originally Posted by PISTOLxCOACH View Post
      CDJ is classy, and doesnt tease easily... on the other hand JB is a tease like the ones that your parent warn you about in high school...



      =)

      "E"
      I feel somewhat honored being called that LOL
    1. texacotea's Avatar
      texacotea -
      Quote Originally Posted by JBHuskers View Post
      I feel somewhat honored being called that LOL
      you do work at a strip club