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cdj
10-23-2014, 07:32 AM
With the game currently available on EA Access and release on Tuesday, use this thread to share your thoughts on the game.

Rudy
10-23-2014, 10:23 AM
I thought this was a pretty good video and looked good except for a couple goofy animations when shooting/driving in the paint. Almost a granny style scoop that looked out of place imo.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ay3OfLlN5bc

Another video:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkMbMYSZGUE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gE0__oYJGQ

doughball
10-23-2014, 04:28 PM
I need help with shot release for my rising star and how to creat space

cdj
10-24-2014, 07:27 AM
I need help with shot release for my rising star and how to creat space

Try these, man:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6WLs0cRnSw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WHPm7h_zM4

JBHuskers
10-26-2014, 12:08 PM
I'll be streaming NBA Live around 10 pm central tonight.

JBHuskers
10-27-2014, 01:38 PM
I will be streaming again tonight at 7pm central.

Rudy
10-27-2014, 02:10 PM
What are your thoughts on the game so far guys or can't you speak until tomorrow? I've definitely heard mixed reactions on the shot release although many people do like the overall game.

JBHuskers
10-27-2014, 03:39 PM
What are your thoughts on the game so far guys or can't you speak until tomorrow? I've definitely heard mixed reactions on the shot release although many people do like the overall game.

I think we can talk. I've been doing so on my streams.

The shot release is different and just needs practice to get it down. It's not broken like most will say. Offline.

While I have yet to play online, I'm hearing many reports of latency on the shot timing for online play, and the powers that be at EA are aware.

JBHuskers
10-27-2014, 03:39 PM
The game itself is playing very well. I'm having a ton of fun on it, and surprisingly enough the amount of 2K trolls has decreased a lot from last year. The difference is noticable from last year to this.

bdoughty
10-27-2014, 07:03 PM
surprisingly enough the amount of 2K trolls has decreased a lot from last year.

They still exist (http://www.theouterhaven.net/2014/10/time-close-shop-nba-live-15-review/).

JBHuskers
10-27-2014, 10:42 PM
They still exist (http://www.theouterhaven.net/2014/10/time-close-shop-nba-live-15-review/).
Yeah the trolls showed up tonight on the eve of the release.

Using Tapatalk on my Samsung Galaxy S5 for shats & gaggles.

JBHuskers
10-27-2014, 10:54 PM
Update for day one is downloading for me now.

Using Tapatalk on my Samsung Galaxy S5 for shats & gaggles.

SCClassof93
10-28-2014, 10:11 AM
It certainly looks better, hopefully i can find time to watch your stream jb.

skipwondah33
10-28-2014, 12:18 PM
I'd like to know the score 2K got in graphics if this was a 7.5

SCClassof93
10-28-2014, 12:25 PM
I'd like to know the score 2K got in graphics if this was a 7.5

Me too skip. I'm starting to get a round ball itch and am debating which one I should try. Would like to try live first so I do not make comparisons to 2k.

JBHuskers
10-28-2014, 12:26 PM
I'll be giving away a copy on my stream Thursday ;)

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JBHuskers
10-28-2014, 01:08 PM
Correction. I'm going to give away a copy of NBA Live 15 tonight during my stream while I'm on Game Changers Radio.

thatBuckeye
10-29-2014, 05:34 AM
I'm seeing way too much of players (bigs) watching little guys drive in for layups. Also in general, aggressiveness in the paint on the defensive side needs a huge boost.

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Rudy
10-29-2014, 05:36 AM
Just played one game of the demo. Tons of fun! Can't believe how much improved it is over 14. Won by 2 on PRO. Westbrook had a sick dunk on me. Posterized big time.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcQDZJqYNKg

Rudy
10-29-2014, 05:58 AM
The graphics look great. Jersey flapping a bit overdone. Shot release timing is early but not hard to adjust to although I struggled with Kyrie on free throws. Loved the EA Broadcast camera. Not quite sure how to play defence and boxing out is tough. Quite a few fouls called on default.

The demo makes you go through the tutorial and I struggled with the crossover. You can skip drills by hitting select though.

overall it was a very fun first demo. Still can't believe how much better it was over 14. Don't know why they didn't hype the game more and release earlier footage.

I'm a casual fan so take these comments from my perspective.

CLW
10-29-2014, 06:37 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8bV4gVXig4

CLW
10-29-2014, 06:38 AM
Sitting at a 63 right now on Metacritic so an improvement but its still not even close to 2K

Rudy
10-29-2014, 07:00 AM
Sitting at a 63 right now on Metacritic so an improvement but its still not even close to 2K

What are your personal opinions on the game? I don't have the retail version but 63 sure seems way too low after playing a little bit. I have to play a lot more myself but I saw a lot of hate on Twitter from 2K fanboys that felt really overdone. Many of the impressions on OS are favourable - not perfect but people are giving this a thumbs up and are looking forward to Live 16 after playing 15. HUGE improvement over 14.

Edit - and that 63 is based on only 4 reviews from Metacritic. Let's see what OS and some other more reputable sites give it. But ultimately it is a personal decision.

skipwondah33
10-29-2014, 07:47 AM
\ Jersey flapping a bit overdone.I've always thought the same about 2K...but they were always given a pass for it

JBHuskers
10-29-2014, 10:09 AM
So I have played the hell out of this game for the past three days with streaming and such, and I gotta say I love it. I have my shot timing down now, so now I need to start finding the right playbooks and plays to run and perfect. It's not perfect, but the gameplay is so much improved. Live 14 had a huge leap in improvement from launch to months later, so I have a feeling it will really become refined and play similar to the Live 10 days.

Rising Star has some really nice menus and UI, though it's still just play and chase goals with no story, it's more enjoyable with the better gameplay and UI. Big Moments is one of my favorite modes, and they added a new type of challenge where you have to match the player's exact shot chart on the court for a given period of time. And obviously for Ultimate Team, the auction addition is huge.

Rudy
10-29-2014, 10:28 AM
I can't even make comparisons to 2K15 since they never put out a demo. The last 2K game I had was 2K13 and it was OK but I preferred Live 10 back then. The sluggish controls bugged me - too much animation involved for what I want in a basketball game. And when I had to wait forever to inbound the basketball I would almost lose it lol.

JBHuskers
10-29-2014, 10:41 AM
I can't even make comparisons to 2K15 since they never put out a demo. The last 2K game I had was 2K13 and it was OK but I preferred Live 10 back then. The sluggish controls bugged me - too much animation involved for what I want in a basketball game. And when I had to wait forever to inbound the basketball I would almost lose it lol.

Live 15 either comes close or surpasses the gameplay of Live 10, depending on personal preference.

JBHuskers
10-29-2014, 10:44 AM
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/nba-live-15/user-reviews

15 positive reviews, 2 down the middle, and 8 negative reviews. IMO not a bad start in regards to the user's opinion.

cdj
10-29-2014, 08:53 PM
Sitting at a 63 right now on Metacritic so an improvement but its still not even close to 2K

I'm not a believer of metacritic scores defining a game, but it's worth noting that if Live stays in the 60s metacritic score, it will finish higher than NHL 15. Anyone who would have made that prediction a year ago would have been laughed at.

steelerfan
10-29-2014, 08:59 PM
I'm not a believer of metacritic scores defining a game, but it's worth noting that if Live stays in the 60s metacritic score, it will finish higher than NHL 15. Anyone who would have made that prediction a year ago would have been laughed at.
NHL 15 is the best representation of hockey that the series ever has had. It, of course, scored low because of a lack of modes. If NBA Live finishes higher than NHL it's not a feather in their cap, imo.

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skipwondah33
10-29-2014, 10:36 PM
Lack of modes trumps Gameplay in people's minds? lol

Yeah metascores...whatever those are..are useless and reason I don't pay attention to them or reviews really.

steelerfan
10-29-2014, 10:45 PM
Lack of modes trumps Gameplay in people's minds? lol

Yeah metascores...whatever those are..are useless and reason I don't pay attention to them or reviews really.
Yes, sadly. People want their EASHL so they can create a black player with blonde hair who wears florescent skates and equipment. :fp:

Also, yes, metawhatever. Useless.

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Rudy
10-30-2014, 06:37 AM
Personally I like Metacritic scores. They do give a general idea of how a game is even if it isn't perfect. 90+ = special game, 80+=buy, 70+= rent/could be good, Less than 70 largely means rental/cheap/don't bother with.

Played another game this morning (and I have been on All-Star - I like how the demo remembers your settings). Durant did not touch the ball much for the CPU in another Cavs victory for me. I can see concerns that the cpu does not play like a real team. Free throws are easy once you learn how so I switched that to ratings only.

A sweet user block and a sweet alley oop to Bron after he called for it.

User block #PS4share NBA Live 15

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djmvRoRknBY

Alley oop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxfaC2DFZVk

Rudy
10-30-2014, 07:35 AM
I do like the announcing. Jeff Van Gundy will talk some smack saying this game is horrible if you aren't executing on offense. Made me laugh.

SCClassof93
11-06-2014, 08:17 AM
Got around to trying the demo and I must say the game has improved. Sadly it does not touch 2k14 so I bought 2k15. This game needs an edge to compete with a superior product. If it cost less at launch it may help.

gigemaggs99
11-18-2014, 02:02 PM
I have 2k14 for PS4, haven't played it but a handful of times, I'd need to play it more to give a good comparison of the 2 games.

Played NBA Live 15 on Xbox 1 last night with my son. We only played one game then we had homework to do.

The teaching/tips orientation section the game starts with is nice. Especially if you're like me and haven't played a basketball game much since Double Dribble. It was a lot to take in but I'm sure over time we'll get the hang of it.

First impressions, the shooting release seems like it might be tough to get used to, it seems like I'm early or late and there isn't much window in between early vs late release.

The graphics are very nice, the crowd sounds are very good too, sounds just like it does on a t.v. broadcast. The announcers are good, they seem fair, we are just learning and not good and we missed a ton of shots, it was funny to hear the announcer say at the start of the 4th that he's glad this poor display is almost over. LOL

It was strange at the end when the game was over the players were walking around high-fiving the air. I'm not sure if they were supposed to be saluting the crowd? or if there was supposed to be another player there to high-10 back with, it's like they were giving high-5s and high-10s to mid air. Another thing that is different is when you are shooting free throws, if you miss on the first one the ball will bounce around and either lay still in the lane or roll off away from the basket. Everyone just stands there and watches it roll away. You never see a ref or player pick it up, then all of a sudden the free throw shooter has the ball back, it's like a cut scene or animation is missing.

As far as dunks go, I'm going to have to practice more, I had quite a few of dunk opportunities but my player would do a smooth lay-up instead. I'd like to slam it down if possible, I'm sure it's something I need to practice more. I was able to get one good hammer dunk but I don't know what I did differently with the controls to get him to do it. I would say out of 10 chances he dunked it 1 time.

I also like how you can adjust your plays on the fly. Using the D-pad you can select different plays, Man, 3-2, 2-3, etc... but it's nice you can do it anytime. On Fifa for example that has always been one of my issues is you can't make adjustments anytime. On Fifa the ball has to be in play so it's like they force you to make strategy changes on the fly, not while throwing the ball in, or waiting for the kick-off after a goal. On NBA Live 15, I was able to change the strategy at anytime which is nice.

So far it seems like a good game. I'll keep playing and report back with more observations.

Rudy
11-18-2014, 03:33 PM
Make sure you turbo when you try to dunk or its just a layup. You have to take off farther away too from my experience with the demo.

gigemaggs99
11-18-2014, 04:41 PM
Make sure you turbo when you try to dunk or its just a layup. You have to take off farther away too from my experience with the demo.

Thank you sir, I'll try and see what happens.

gigemaggs99
11-18-2014, 08:18 PM
Ok, we went back and did the in-game tutorials. We are now playing above the rim. Played 2 games tonight, I won 1 and he won 1, he was very excited to win. We're starting to learn defense too, seems like we had more blocked shots, other times it seems like it's crazy fast break b-ball and scoring on both ends.

I am really like the crowd sounds. I played as the Boston Celtics and was down by 5 against his Bulls, I was at home and would take a 3-point shot and the crowd all yells "THREE....!!!" then I'd clank it off the iron and they all yell, "ooooohhhhhhh......" when they start chanting DEFENSE DEFENSE it's pretty sweet!

JBHuskers
11-18-2014, 09:32 PM
It takes a while, then you have that a-ha moment on shooting.

gigemaggs99
11-21-2014, 08:47 PM
My son and I have been playing a few games each night. So far I still love the graphics and sounds of the different stadiums. One thing that drives me nuts, and I'm really hoping it's that I have no idea how to play, is there is no defense.

Compared to 2K14 where I can try and take a charge, steal the ball, block shots, etc...on 2k14 there seems to be more of a balance between offense and defense.

On NBA Live 15, it really feels like it's just score score score. I'm playing my 6 year old that doesn't know a lot about basketball, he in bounds the ball and runs the length of the floor, into the paint and a) gets an easy lay-up, b) misses and somehow gets a the rebound when I have 4 guys just standing there watching, or c) rarely I get the defensive board.

I do use the quick defense of pressure in the paint but he's still able to simply walk in and make easy lay-ups.

Am I missing something simple? Is it possible to play defense on this game?

cdj
11-21-2014, 11:03 PM
Some tips on defense:

- Holding LT is supposed to help give assistance on defense to stay with your man.

- It's relatively easy to steal the ball in 15 as compared to 14. Do it when in front of them or on the side of the ball. Practice it and you'll be surprised how many times you can knock the ball lose versus fouls called.

- If the offensive player gets past you, hold down B to call for a double team. This won't be a double team since he got past you, but will call someone up to try and slow him down.

- You can go into defensive strategies and assign for an automatic double team on a specific player once they drive to the hoop.

- You could also hold down the D-pad, scroll to far right and set Offensive Rebounding to GET BACK. In theory, that should help get players back to slow down drives.

- Once the other team has the ball off a defensive rebound, I like to take user control of a player (helps if PF/C) and have them run into the lane and then switch back to the defender guarding the ball handler. This helps make sure you have someone around the hoop to help on a drive.

- On 14, I'm pretty sure the defensive strategies via d-pad didn't work. I got out of the habit of using them so I don't know how effective they are in 15. I don't think I would rely on them solely.

- The key in the game is just to get/keep players between the ballhandler and the basket. The game favors the offensive player, but if you can get enough blocks and steals (even just a few) that can be a huge swing towards winning the game.

gigemaggs99
11-22-2014, 01:32 PM
Some tips on defense:

- Holding LT is supposed to help give assistance on defense to stay with your man.

- It's relatively easy to steal the ball in 15 as compared to 14. Do it when in front of them or on the side of the ball. Practice it and you'll be surprised how many times you can knock the ball lose versus fouls called.

- If the offensive player gets past you, hold down B to call for a double team. This won't be a double team since he got past you, but will call someone up to try and slow him down.

- You can go into defensive strategies and assign for an automatic double team on a specific player once they drive to the hoop.

- You could also hold down the D-pad, scroll to far right and set Offensive Rebounding to GET BACK. In theory, that should help get players back to slow down drives.

- Once the other team has the ball off a defensive rebound, I like to take user control of a player (helps if PF/C) and have them run into the lane and then switch back to the defender guarding the ball handler. This helps make sure you have someone around the hoop to help on a drive.

- On 14, I'm pretty sure the defensive strategies via d-pad didn't work. I got out of the habit of using them so I don't know how effective they are in 15. I don't think I would rely on them solely.

- The key in the game is just to get/keep players between the ballhandler and the basket. The game favors the offensive player, but if you can get enough blocks and steals (even just a few) that can be a huge swing towards winning the game.

Thank you for the tips.

I don't mind winning vs losing. After all I am playing my 6 year old so if he wins that's cool, but realistically I usually win by a bunch. I have just noticed when he inbounds the ball he's able to take it end to end without anyone on my team doing anything. I try and get my player inbetween him and the goal, and keep him there but he's able to just run around (while holding sprint) and then does a lay-up. It honestly feels like I just hold my controller until he scores, then I get the ball back, pass it around and play what I think of when I think of basketball.

I will win something like 91-55 but he will have 2 guys that did all the scoring. I try and tell him to pass the ball more, but the point of my story is, he's able to score 55 points with just 2 of his guys, it's like all 5+ of mine can't play defense. I won't have a single guy on my team have more than 20 points so I try and spread it around the best I can. I completely understand that on my son's side it's b/c he's young and doesn't quite grasp the goal of team play yet, but on my side to have him walk through my defense is frustrating. He'll even take the inbound pass and stop in the lane, I'll have 3 guys around him and he just does a simple bank shot, if he misses it, amazingly his SHOOTER will get his own rebound and he then scores, for some reason all 3 of my guys in the paint will just stand there, none will get the rebound...he even asks me, why don't your guys even try? I'm not sure how to respond.

The other huge difference we've both noticed, on NBA Live 15 my son can run to the baseline and doesn't seem to go out of bounds, it's like the player will assist him and keep himself inbounds. On 2k14 my son runs out of bounds a lot, especially on the baseline...so comparing the two games I'd say NBA Live is more "beginner" friendly. My son enjoys the NBA Live more than the 2k game. Again it's a 6 year old mentality, similarly on Madden or NCAA he wants to score a TD run on EVERY rush and on every pass he wants to throw the BOMB. I appreciate that he has to learn and that will come in time. I just get frustrated in what to me feels like lack of user control on NBA Live. I get frustrated when the other 4 guys on my team just seem to stand there and let his player walk to the basket. If I was playing Madden and my offensive line just stood there and let the D come unblocked to the QB I'd be very upset.

Rudy
11-22-2014, 05:37 PM
There is a forcefield for out of bounds in Live. You can't go out of bounds for the most part.

For those that have played both games, which one looks better? I've heard they are close and arguments can be made for both. Most everyone agrees Love's stadiums are clearly better.

gigemaggs99
11-22-2014, 08:30 PM
There is a forcefield for out of bounds in Live. You can't go out of bounds for the most part.

For those that have played both games, which one looks better? I've heard they are close and arguments can be made for both. Most everyone agrees Love's stadiums are clearly better.

I have NBA Live 15 for Xbox One. Great graphics, stadium sounds, the visuals are awesome.

I have NBA 2k14 and 2K15 for PS4. The controls are outstanding. I like the dunks on 2K better they rattle the rim, makes you feel like they are really slamming it down. As far as the controls go, you can just do more, on 2k14 & 15 you can specify a bounce pass vs a no look vs a high pass, etc... on NBA Live you can do "flashy passing" but it picks the animation, I haven't found a way to specify a bounce pass. The alley-oop on NBA Live seems hit or miss, on 2K14&15 it makes sense.

The graphics on 2K14&15 aren't bad by any means, they look great to me, the sounds and graphics are slightly more improved on NBA Live, but I'd pick better controls and what I call more user control over slightly better sound.

I would pick 2K15 if I could only pick one. Walmart has it on sale for $29.96 pre-black Friday deals going on now.

Another thing, EA games have taken the instruction booklet out of the game a long time ago, not sure why, they say to save money/paper. Well the in-game tutorials are pretty basic, they only show you Offensive tutorials. Zero defense.

On 2K14 & 15, there are instructions in the booklet AND the in-game tutorials are very in-depth, they cover everything you need to know how to do AND they include both offense AND defense. I'm a firm believer in defense wins championships, I want to be able to play defense.

To me NBA Live feels more like an offensive shoot-out game. Little to no defense, 2K14&15 seem like a more complete game, you can play both sides of the ball.

I also like on 2K14&15 you can shoot with either the X button or the right-analog stick, it helps with the timing on shots. On NBA Live it's only a button press, the right-analog stick is not an option on NBA Live.

2K would get my vote.

jerzeyreign is online on twitch a lot playing 2k15, check it out, it looks pretty damn real!

Rudy
11-23-2014, 04:29 AM
Thanks. I'm hoping we will get some decent deals here in Canada for our version of black Friday. My brother is working out of home now rather than Detroit so all those sweet Amazon deals in the US are no longer available to me unfortunately.

cdj
02-06-2015, 07:45 AM
It doesn't look like the All-Star Game content or even a ratings update this week unless they were late in being pushed out. (The guy in charge of ratings is no longer on the team, so it appears there was no seamless succession plan.)

cdj
02-09-2015, 04:09 PM
Nice tease of the 2015 ASG court in NBA LIVE 15 in a recent social media post:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9b0xSuCMAEr4Lg.png:large

cdj
02-17-2015, 08:08 AM
I'm hearing that NBA Live 15 is currently just $9 on the XBL Marketplace.

Unsure if PSN will have matching/similar deal later today.

Rudy
02-17-2015, 08:32 AM
Chris, with a roster guy taking off and the prices dropping like a rock for Live in addition to poor sales numbers, is Live 16 even going to happen? I truly hope if it does they add sliders and roster editing. I just don't get how some of EA's teams like Madden and Live don't support their sliders well at all while the NHL team has a lot. EA invented sliders!

P.S. Live 15 is $69.99 on Canadian Sony store right now. 2K15 is $46.99. EB Games has a physical copy of 2K15 for $45 while Live 15 is $30 new. FS and BB have the physical copy of Live 15 for $19.95 right now.

JBHuskers
02-17-2015, 11:34 AM
At this point, Live 16 is a reality and should be the title that we have been waiting for. The gameplay for the most part on 15 is great, now it's time to get those great features in that have been missing.

cdj
02-17-2015, 09:23 PM
Chris, with a roster guy taking off and the prices dropping like a rock for Live in addition to poor sales numbers, is Live 16 even going to happen? I truly hope if it does they add sliders and roster editing. I just don't get how some of EA's teams like Madden and Live don't support their sliders well at all while the NHL team has a lot. EA invented sliders!

You never know, but I am pretty darn certain 16 is a go.

I completely get why seeing such a price drop and sales numbers worry people, but considering Live sold 0 copies between 2010-2012, I think where they are now is a big improvement. :) Between digital copies and the Ultimate Team revenue stream, the franchise may not be as struggling financially as some have speculated. Though, it obviously has major work to do in acquiring market share vs. 2K. They are not at a point where they can be happy, but I don't think they should be drowning their sorrows either.

NBA Live 15 is also on EA Access for XB1 users. I think they are at a point where they just want people to know the game exists and potentially give it a whirl. The lack of marketing still has a lot of people out there who didn't even know Live was back, much less in its second year back.