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CLW
06-12-2014, 11:05 AM
Figured it deserved its own thread. The World Cup starts here in a few hours.

Looking at the schedule it looks like most games start at 11:00 2:00 and 5:00 CST so lots of streaming on the Kindle Fire HDX from the office. :nod:

JBHuskers
06-12-2014, 11:43 AM
I brought my laptop today, but not for the World Cup, for the U.S. Open :nod:

steelerfan
06-12-2014, 02:25 PM
I brought my laptop today, but not for the World Cup, for the U.S. Open :nod:

:fp:

CLW
06-12-2014, 02:43 PM
Prediction - Brazil 2 Croatia 0

CLW
06-12-2014, 03:13 PM
Brazil scores first..... in the wrong goal. WOW!

CLW
06-12-2014, 03:24 PM
that goal really took the energy right out of the stadium. this would truly be a STUNNER if Croatia can get any points much less 3 in the opener. riots may erupt.

JBHuskers
06-12-2014, 03:26 PM
477182849510932482

CLW
06-12-2014, 03:28 PM
at least one of those 37 ended with a player getting gunned down upon returning home

CLW
06-12-2014, 03:31 PM
Neymar ties it up

CLW
06-12-2014, 03:34 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bp9LrcoCUAAQyhK.jpg

JBHuskers
06-12-2014, 04:08 PM
at least one of those 37 ended with a player getting gunned down upon returning home

:D :D :D

CLW
06-12-2014, 04:29 PM
FLOP give a PK to Brasil.

CLW
06-12-2014, 04:32 PM
All I gotta say if I was still playing and me or my teammate got hosed like that on such a stage the ref would NOT be walking out of the stadium alive.

bdoughty
06-12-2014, 04:41 PM
:D :D :D

Don't quite see that as being humorous? Tragedy, Yes.

bdoughty
06-12-2014, 04:43 PM
Croatia got hosed.

CLW
06-12-2014, 04:52 PM
Wow Brasil is getting all the bounces. They will survive today and the group but far from impressive today.

bdoughty
06-12-2014, 04:57 PM
Looking forward to the Spain/Netherlands rematch.

CLW
06-12-2014, 06:33 PM
Looking forward to the Spain/Netherlands rematch.

The Dutch are much like the French in the W.C. when they are on they are TOUGH but they also have major flame out early potential.

CLW
06-13-2014, 10:56 AM
Go Cameroon!

CLW
06-13-2014, 11:14 AM
Assistant Referee Must be a Republican b/c he just denied a Mexican goal.

CLW
06-13-2014, 12:47 PM
Cameroon has played much better than I thought they would but looks like they are going to come up short

steelerfan
06-13-2014, 01:00 PM
Mexico has not played well since the Olympics. Too many internal problems, it seems.

CLW
06-13-2014, 01:06 PM
Mexico has not played well since the Olympics. Too many internal problems, it seems.

Yeah if memory serves they barely qualified (and they needed a US win to save their bacon).

CLW
06-13-2014, 01:37 PM
REALLY interested to see this one. I have a feeling the Dutch are do for a major let down/disappointment - their stars are older now and they never have a particularly strong defense.

ram29jackson
06-13-2014, 01:52 PM
bla bla bla , when's college/pro football start ?

its a month long and I'll check it out. Might as well, its sports.

CLW
06-13-2014, 01:54 PM
When did the Dutch start wearing Blue?

JBHuskers
06-13-2014, 02:34 PM
477531752219418624

steelerfan
06-13-2014, 02:43 PM
Yeah if memory serves they barely qualified (and they needed a US win to save their bacon).

Yes, that is right. Also, they have had managerial changes and turmoil.

steelerfan
06-13-2014, 02:44 PM
REALLY interested to see this one. I have a feeling the Dutch are do for a major let down/disappointment - their stars are older now and they never have a particularly strong defense.

The Dutch have fielded a young squad this year and expectations are low. Not much star power.

CLW
06-13-2014, 02:47 PM
Spain finally gets burned playing so high/offsides trap and R.V.P. with a beautiful header for the equalizer.

CLW
06-13-2014, 03:13 PM
Wow the Dutch have come to play today. Spain in BIG trouble.

CLW
06-13-2014, 03:19 PM
I LOVE it when the Dutch are ON there is nothing more beautiful than watching them on offense.

CLW
06-13-2014, 03:23 PM
Spain is getting TORCHED!

CLW
06-13-2014, 03:31 PM
Did I say the Dutch were going to implode I change that to Spain. WOW!

CLW
06-13-2014, 03:41 PM
I cannot ever remember a defending champion getting beaten down like this - perhaps France in 02 but even they didn't look this bad.

CLW
06-13-2014, 03:46 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqCZzlUIIAEuDAp.jpg

Looked like me out there dominating the TGT Cup with the Dutch. Final 5-1. :nod:

JBHuskers
06-13-2014, 04:01 PM
This tweet :D :D :D

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JBHuskers
06-13-2014, 04:09 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqCfKrrCIAEjHH_.jpg

JBHuskers
06-13-2014, 04:12 PM
And Rick Reilly goes too far and probably trips over himself to hit delete:

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JBHuskers
06-13-2014, 04:13 PM
477558350243430400

bdoughty
06-13-2014, 05:32 PM
I was expecting something a little closer from Spain. :fp:

CLW
06-14-2014, 10:38 AM
4 games today.

Also a funny website to turn your name into a Brazil soccer player

http://www.minimalsworld.net/BrazilName/brazilian.shtml

steelerfan
06-14-2014, 10:39 AM
Buffon is out of today's match with England. Salvatore Sirigu of PSG is likely to replace him. Should be interesting since Buffon has 140 caps while Sirigu has just 8.

CLW
06-14-2014, 10:48 AM
Buffon is out of today's match with England. Salvatore Sirigu of PSG is likely to replace him. Should be interesting since Buffon has 140 caps while Sirigu has just 8.

That is a huge loss for the Italians. That being said I still think they beet the usually overrated English.

steelerfan
06-14-2014, 11:41 AM
That is a huge loss for the Italians. That being said I still think they beet the usually overrated English.

I'm not sure England is overrated. The current FIFA World Rankings have them 10th, with USA 13th. Italy is 9th.

CLW
06-14-2014, 11:55 AM
I'm not sure England is overrated. The current FIFA World Rankings have them 10th, with USA 13th. Italy is 9th.

Perhaps more the media b/c of all the "stars" from the Premier League (like its the ONLY decent league in Europe).

steelerfan
06-14-2014, 01:31 PM
Perhaps more the media b/c of all the "stars" from the Premier League (like its the ONLY decent league in Europe).

Most of the best players in the EPL are not English.

steelerfan
06-14-2014, 01:35 PM
Also, the EPL is the only league in Europe with good balance top to bottom.

The other strong leagues (Serie A, Ligue 1, Bundesliga, La Liga, etc.) have a couple STRONG clubs and the rest are TERRIBLE. :)

jaymo76
06-14-2014, 03:47 PM
Still in shock about the Netherlands game. Good on them though. Now I'm waiting patiently to see what Belgium is going to bring. I'm going for the "Low Countries" this year.

CLW
06-14-2014, 03:58 PM
Upset of the World Cup so far with Costa Rica taking out Uruguay. Uruguay is in BIG trouble now with England and Italy left to play for them. It wouldn't surprise me if we see a very conservative game from both the Italians and English now 0-0 draw take the point and move on.

steelerfan
06-14-2014, 05:48 PM
Still in shock about the Netherlands game. Good on them though. Now I'm waiting patiently to see what Belgium is going to bring. I'm going for the "Low Countries" this year.

Belgium is going to be fun to watch. They have 3 big time Chelsea boys: Hazard, Lukaku and Courtois. All 3 will be major force for Belgium and I'm looking forward to watching them too. :)

steelerfan
06-14-2014, 05:49 PM
Upset of the World Cup so far with Costa Rica taking out Uruguay. Uruguay is in BIG trouble now with England and Italy left to play for them. It wouldn't surprise me if we see a very conservative game from both the Italians and English now 0-0 draw take the point and move on.

Yeah, big result today for sure!

CLW
06-14-2014, 07:00 PM
New Year same story for England. Wayne Rooney is the most over hyped worthless soccer player possibly ever. I've never seen him perform anywhere near world class level. He was ABUSED in the 1st half with his "defense" and then in the 2nd it was one choke job after another just shanking shots and corners all over the place.

jaymo76
06-14-2014, 07:23 PM
Yeah I hate to "pile on" but another weak performance by Rooney and the Mother country... No insult to Italy but England needs to step it up. Poor shots, horrendous corner kicks, soft D, etc. Is this really the best England has to offer? I guess historians are wrong when they say "the sun never sets on the British Empire. "

CLW
06-15-2014, 07:09 AM
Yeah I hate to "pile on" but another weak performance by Rooney and the Mother country... No insult to Italy but England needs to step it up. Poor shots, horrendous corner kicks, soft D, etc. Is this really the best England has to offer? I guess historians are wrong when they say "the sun never sets on the British Empire. "

Yes this is the best they have. The truth is England currently is basically on par with the U.S. on the soccer field and have no business being compared to the REAL threats to win the World Cup.

steelerfan
06-15-2014, 12:11 PM
Yes this is the best they have. The truth is England currently is basically on par with the U.S. on the soccer field and have no business being compared to the REAL threats to win the World Cup.

I'm not sure who you're listening to, but no one is saying they are a threat to win it.

steelerfan
06-15-2014, 12:51 PM
Wow! What a finish between Switzerland and Ecuador!

CLW
06-15-2014, 06:05 PM
France looked pretty sharp today.

CLW
06-15-2014, 08:03 PM
Spain Is Now an Underdog to Make the Knockout Stage (http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/spains-chances-of-getting-out-of-group-b-just-fell-by-more-than-half/)
http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/spains-chances-of-getting-out-of-group-b-just-fell-by-more-than-half/

jaymo76
06-15-2014, 08:07 PM
France looked pretty sharp today.

After the complete disaster that was the last world cup, they needed to come out with a strong performance. Now that being said, the competition was not up to snuff so I fully expected France to cruise to victory.

CLW
06-16-2014, 10:20 AM
Germany v. Portugal - best result for the U.S. - 0-0 draw with about 20 injuries. :nod:

CLW
06-16-2014, 11:38 AM
Red for head butting a German for Pepe after a dive. Portugal is TOAST now playing with 10 against the Germans down 2-0.

CLW
06-16-2014, 11:40 AM
No Pepe when we play them either. Nice. :nod:

CLW
06-16-2014, 11:47 AM
BEAT DOWN. Por should just pull Ronaldo and save him due to his knee injury. No way in hell they come back from this.

SmoothPancakes
06-16-2014, 11:47 AM
Portugal is imploding against the Germans.

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souljahbill
06-16-2014, 12:03 PM
Group of death!!!

steelerfan
06-16-2014, 01:29 PM
Great result for the US, imo. Beat Ghana, draw with Portugal, play defense against Germany to stay within 4 goals and the just hope Portugal doesn't blow Ghana the fuck out.

CLW
06-16-2014, 01:47 PM
Great result for the US, imo. Beat Ghana, draw with Portugal, play defense against Germany to stay within 4 goals and the just hope Portugal doesn't blow Ghana the fuck out.

Yep not a bad result. However, we MUST win today b/c Portugal should (in theory) come out really hard against the U.S. as they are basically in a must win now against the US

JBHuskers
06-16-2014, 02:54 PM
4:30 kinda sucks for the match. I don't get off work til 5, and I have somewhere to go after work.

steelerfan
06-16-2014, 03:00 PM
4:30 kinda sucks for the match. I don't get off work til 5, and I have somewhere to go after work.

Kickoff is at 5 Central.

JBHuskers
06-16-2014, 03:03 PM
Kickoff is at 5 Central.

Oh the pre-game must be at 4:30. I probably won't be home until after 6. Gotta drive across town and back, so I can listen to ESPN Radio.

steelerfan
06-16-2014, 03:04 PM
Oh the pre-game must be at 4:30. I probably won't be home until after 6. Gotta drive across town and back, so I can listen to ESPN Radio.

Yeah, 4:30 is pre-match commentary.

jaymo76
06-16-2014, 04:07 PM
That Iran-Nigeria match was very entertaining today. I wasn't pulling for either team but it has some pretty good end-to-end play.

SmoothPancakes
06-16-2014, 04:10 PM
My prediction. Ghana 2, USA 1. Ghana's had our asses the last couple times we've played them. Until I see otherwise from the US, like in Vegas, gotta let it ride.

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CLW
06-16-2014, 04:51 PM
USA 4 Ghana 2 - i fully expect a wild game with defense optional for large segments

jaymo76
06-16-2014, 04:54 PM
USA 4 Ghana 2 - i fully expect a wild game with defense optional for large segments

I would give Ghana more credit than that. They have some talent and should not be underestimated for a second.

steelerfan
06-16-2014, 04:55 PM
My prediction. Ghana 2, USA 1. Ghana's had our asses the last couple times we've played them. Until I see otherwise from the US, like in Vegas, gotta let it ride.

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You can't put too much stock into what happened 4 and 8 years ago.

Fact is, Football has gotten stronger in the States in the last 4 years. There are 20 MLS players on WC 2014 rosters (10 on US). That is the most since MLS started. In 2010, there were only 6 MLS players on WC rosters, which is the all-time low.

1998 - 19
2002 - 11
2006 - 15
2010 - 6
2014 - 20

Not saying your pick is bad, just saying don't put so much weight on 4 and 8 years ago. :)

JBHuskers
06-16-2014, 04:57 PM
MERICA!

SmoothPancakes
06-16-2014, 04:58 PM
Oh, I know. A lot has definitely changed since 2006 and 2010, older players have gone, newer players have come. Both teams have at least changed somewhat since those two Cups. But, for whatever reason, Ghana always seems to have USA's number, either they come out hard or the US comes out sluggish. Hoping it's different tonight, but I'm sort of reserved until the US is able to actually get it done against Ghana.

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steelerfan
06-16-2014, 05:01 PM
Oh, I know. A lot has definitely changed since 2006 and 2010, older players have gone, newer players have come. Both teams have at least changed somewhat since those two Cups. But, for whatever reason, Ghana always seems to have USA's number, either they come out hard or the US comes out sluggish. Hoping it's different tonight, but I'm sort of reserved until the US is able to actually get it done against Ghana.

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That fast enough for ya!?!?!?

CLW
06-16-2014, 05:02 PM
40 seconds in 1-0 ---- perhaps my tally was too low?

CLW
06-16-2014, 05:05 PM
Excellent start by the USA but gotta hope they don't blow their load early and then run out of gas. What's the temp/humidity like tonight?

SmoothPancakes
06-16-2014, 05:07 PM
That fast enough for ya!?!?!?

I'm certainly impressed by that start. Now just gotta hold onto that lead for 85 more minutes. If USA can get a second goal, I'd definitely feel good about their odds of victory.

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steelerfan
06-16-2014, 05:07 PM
Excellent start by the USA but gotta hope they don't blow their load early and then run out of gas. What's the temp/humidity like tonight?

Not sure, but with Klinsman's biggest focus being fitness, I hope that is not a factor.

CLW
06-16-2014, 05:11 PM
Not sure, but with Klinsman's biggest focus being fitness, I hope that is not a factor.

Obviously I was never world class in shape but I can tell you running 6-10 miles a day in the summer didn't matter when the temp was in the 90s and humidity high early in our high school seasons. Even with unlimited subs we were GASSED by the end of the game.

IMHO if Ghana wanna sit back down 0-1. Take the damn air out of the ball and just watch the clock run b/c at some point they are going to turn it up and you need the energy to respond.

England in particular appeared to collapse under the heat/humidity against Italy as they were making a ton of mental errors and just shanking passes/shots/crosses at the end.

JBHuskers
06-16-2014, 05:15 PM
The ESPN Radio stations here are doing local shows :fp:

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CLW
06-16-2014, 05:16 PM
The ESPN Radio stations here are doing local shows :fp:

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World Wide Leader = Commies :nod:

SmoothPancakes
06-16-2014, 05:17 PM
Apparently US fans in the stadium have started chanting "I believe that we will win". Yeah, just a tad bit premature there.

Still 75 minutes to go with only a one goal lead. That's a lot of time for our defense to screw up or the players just plain get worn out under the conditions. Probably best to wait until at least mid way through the second half before starting that chant.

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CLW
06-16-2014, 05:18 PM
We need some possession here b/c right now its just a matter of time before the equalizer

CLW
06-16-2014, 05:19 PM
damn so close to being 2-0

souljahbill
06-16-2014, 05:21 PM
https://vine.co/v/MIjmdZL7aWl

CLW
06-16-2014, 05:22 PM
Not good for Altidore - he definitely pulled or tore something - way too early to be cramps (i'd hope)

SmoothPancakes
06-16-2014, 05:22 PM
Just looked up the weather. Temperature isn't bad, sitting at 80 degrees. Humidity is a bitch though with 73% humidity right now.

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steelerfan
06-16-2014, 05:22 PM
Can't afford to lose Altidore. :(

CLW
06-16-2014, 05:24 PM
I'd be stunned of Altidore is able to return for the rest of the tourny - that just looked to me like something tore b/c he just immediately pulled up and it was without contact.

bdoughty
06-16-2014, 05:24 PM
Hate to see Altidore go down.

steelerfan
06-16-2014, 05:26 PM
Obviously I was never world class in shape but I can tell you running 6-10 miles a day in the summer didn't matter when the temp was in the 90s and humidity high early in our high school seasons. Even with unlimited subs we were GASSED by the end of the game.

IMHO if Ghana wanna sit back down 0-1. Take the damn air out of the ball and just watch the clock run b/c at some point they are going to turn it up and you need the energy to respond.

England in particular appeared to collapse under the heat/humidity against Italy as they were making a ton of mental errors and just shanking passes/shots/crosses at the end.

Remember though, the US has 10 MLS players. They are used to playing a full schedule during the Summer months.

They just said 77į and 74% humidity. They should be fine.

SmoothPancakes
06-16-2014, 05:27 PM
I'd be stunned of Altidore is able to return for the rest of the tourny - that just looked to me like something tore b/c he just immediately pulled up and it was without contact.

Yeah, a lot of comments online and o Twitter of it appearing to be a hamstring injury. If he ends up done for the tournament, talk about a major blow to their already slim chances of getting out of the group.

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CLW
06-16-2014, 05:28 PM
Joe Biden sighting. So that's where Obama hid him.... Brasil.

CLW
06-16-2014, 05:30 PM
Our defense looks MUCH more organized than it did earlier in qualifying. Either that or Ghana is way out of whack on the attack.

steelerfan
06-16-2014, 05:33 PM
Tim Howard will be the difference tonight. The US has a World Class keeper, Ghana doesn't.

bdoughty
06-16-2014, 05:33 PM
Yet our passing is on the poor side lately. Should have had them watching tapes of the Spurs offense. ;)

JBHuskers
06-16-2014, 05:34 PM
World Wide Leader = Commies :nod:

More like the local stations are commies.

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CLW
06-16-2014, 05:35 PM
I love me some soccer. Get kicked in the face - no foul. Fall down like you've been shot despite not being touched your opponent is kicked out of the match.

steelerfan
06-16-2014, 05:37 PM
Yet our passing is on the poor side lately. Should have had them watching tapes of the Spurs offense. ;)

Good that you said "the Spurs" and not "Spurs". :)

CLW
06-16-2014, 05:38 PM
we need some possession at the other end please.

CLW
06-16-2014, 05:41 PM
good lord how many cramps/leg issues can we have in one game

CLW
06-16-2014, 05:44 PM
half time coming packed up to try to make it home by the start of the 2nd half.......

steelerfan
06-16-2014, 05:45 PM
Great spot for a free kick.

steelerfan
06-16-2014, 05:48 PM
good lord how many cramps/leg issues can we have in one game

Must not be Gatorade clients. :D

JBHuskers
06-16-2014, 06:07 PM
At least they have the game on for my drive home.

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JBHuskers
06-16-2014, 06:16 PM
Sounds like we need more possession to keep the lead.

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SmoothPancakes
06-16-2014, 06:43 PM
Yep.....

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steelerfan
06-16-2014, 06:43 PM
Damn.

souljahbill
06-16-2014, 06:46 PM
Gotta say, we really suck at soccer. Ghana has pretty much controlled the ball the entire game.

SmoothPancakes
06-16-2014, 06:47 PM
Well, I bet the USA fans there in the stadium now feel like dumbasses sitting there chanting "I believe we will win" when it was 1-0 and only 10-15 minutes into the match. That'd be like Oklahoma students chanting that after returning the opening kickoff against Texas and leading 7-0 midway through the first quarter. :fp:

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steelerfan
06-16-2014, 06:47 PM
Gotta say, we really suck at soccer. Ghana has pretty much controlled the ball the entire game.

Suck it!

2-1!

SmoothPancakes
06-16-2014, 06:47 PM
Holy fuck Brooks!

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JBHuskers
06-16-2014, 06:48 PM
Holy shit! What an answer on the corner kick for the US!

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SmoothPancakes
06-16-2014, 06:50 PM
Now these announcers need to shut the fuck up and stop acting like it's over. Ghana still has two minutes plus injury time, and our defense has blown donkey balls this second half.

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steelerfan
06-16-2014, 06:50 PM
Well, I bet the USA fans there in the stadium now feel like dumbasses sitting there chanting "I believe we will win" when it was 1-0 and only 10-15 minutes into the match. That'd be like Oklahoma students chanting that after returning the opening kickoff against Texas and leading 7-0 midway through the first quarter. :fp:

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Nothing wrong with believing, man.

souljahbill
06-16-2014, 06:51 PM
Suck it!

2-1!

That corner score was nice but be honest, Ghana has been the one forcing the issue the entire time and we're lucky to have only given up 1 goal.

SmoothPancakes
06-16-2014, 06:51 PM
Five minutes of injury time. Fuck...

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steelerfan
06-16-2014, 06:53 PM
Gotta say, we really suck at soccer.

203 nations took part in qualifying for this World Cup, 32 qualified. The US is ranked 13th in the world.

There are 171 nations sitting at home that disagree with your comment. :)

SmoothPancakes
06-16-2014, 06:55 PM
Nothing wrong with believing, man.

No, there is nothing wrong there. But when it's only 1-0 still in the infancy of the match, completely horrible time to do that chant, especially when playing a team like Ghana. Up 2-0, OK, maybe. Playing Bosnia, OK, you can probably go ahead. Only 15 minutes into a match against Ghana? You're prepping to get reamed up the ass by fate, as we briefly saw before that header by Brooks.

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JBHuskers
06-16-2014, 06:57 PM
Brooks HUGE on both sides of the ball after subbing in. The savior of this match.

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bdoughty
06-16-2014, 06:57 PM
Hats of to the US team. I honestly did not think they would be Ghana. Now you have a Portugal team that got spanked, anything could happen.

CLW
06-16-2014, 06:58 PM
We just STOLE 3 points. Honestly Ghana played better for the biggest part of the game. We won't get a way with sitting in front of the goal against Portugal and Germany. We have to find someone to create and keep possession of the ball on offense. I thought it would be Bradley but he was a no show tonight.

souljahbill
06-16-2014, 07:01 PM
203 nations took part in qualifying for this World Cup, 32 qualified. The US is ranked 13th in the world.

There are 171 nations sitting at home that disagree with your comment. :)

Yay! We're better than Trinidad & Tobago. Give us the trophy now. We're clearly too awesome.

Clearly, we're not the worst of the worst but watching the game, the final score could have easily been the other way the way Ghana controlled the ball and flow of the game.

JBHuskers
06-16-2014, 07:02 PM
I think the US will forget about Jurgen's comments about the team advancing after this win.

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steelerfan
06-16-2014, 07:02 PM
No, there is nothing wrong there. But when it's only 1-0 still in the infancy of the match, completely horrible time to do that chant, especially when playing a team like Ghana. Up 2-0, OK, maybe. Playing Bosnia, OK, you can probably go ahead. Only 15 minutes into a match against Ghana? You're prepping to get reamed up the ass by fate, as we briefly saw before that header by Brooks.

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First of all, according to Ian Darke, they were saying, "I believe we can win". Can.

Second, if that is "bad" in your eyes, you need to get familiar with the "norm". :D

http://chelseafancast.com/2012/04/chelsea-terrace-chants-and-songs/

Last, Bosnia has more firepower up front than Ghana. Eden Dzeko. :)

steelerfan
06-16-2014, 07:03 PM
Great job securing the points for the US. :))

bdoughty
06-16-2014, 07:03 PM
I think the US will forget about Jurgen's comments about the team advancing after this win.

Advancing? Let's not get ahead of ourselves. It was a Group Stage "W." Two more to go.

JBHuskers
06-16-2014, 07:03 PM
203 nations took part in qualifying for this World Cup, 32 qualified. The US is ranked 13th in the world.

There are 171 nations sitting at home that disagree with your comment. :)

:D

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JBHuskers
06-16-2014, 07:05 PM
Advancing? Let's not get ahead of ourselves. It was a Group Stage "W." Two more to go.

Re-read my post and then look up Jurgen's comments.

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steelerfan
06-16-2014, 07:08 PM
That corner score was nice but be honest, Ghana has been the one forcing the issue the entire time and we're lucky to have only given up 1 goal.

Ghana is no slouch. Nothing wrong with conceding possession to defend the area, when leading against a formidable opponent. :)

SmoothPancakes
06-16-2014, 07:09 PM
Re-read my post and then look up Jurgen's comments.

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I'm wondering if all of the armchair manager douchebags who were calling for Klinsmann's head, because he dared to leave Donovan off the roster, will show up online tonight after today's win.

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JBHuskers
06-16-2014, 07:10 PM
I'm wondering if all of the armchair manager douchebags who were calling for Klinsmann's head, because he dared to leave Donovan off the roster, will show up online tonight after today's win.

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Then add his comments that he said he didn't expect to get far before the Cup started.

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bdoughty
06-16-2014, 07:12 PM
Yay! We're better than Trinidad & Tobago. Give us the trophy now. We're clearly too awesome.

Do you see Rudy or Jaymo posting in this thread? NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNope. USA USA USA!

souljahbill
06-16-2014, 07:13 PM
Ghana is no slouch. Nothing wrong with conceding possession to defend the area, when leading against a formidable opponent. :)

To me, it just seems that Ghana did everything better than us but put the ball into the net. The passing looked really sloppy and there didn't seem to be any spacing.

bdoughty
06-16-2014, 07:15 PM
Re-read my post and then look up Jurgen's comments.

I read them both. One where he said we would not advance and then his 180 where he said we could. My point is you really can't say anything after just one win. Unless I am missing something.

SmoothPancakes
06-16-2014, 07:15 PM
Then add his comments that he said he didn't expect to get far before the Cup started.

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Yeah, I remember that. That set off a whole separate firestorm online. Hey, they don't pay him to blow rainbows and sunshine up the asses of Americans. And he was stating truth. We still need at least a draw against Portugal to have a favorable chance of escaping group.

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souljahbill
06-16-2014, 07:15 PM
Guys, I'm speaking relative to the competition. I'm aware that we're better than most of the world but when compared to the top teams, we're going to look like the Heat against the Spurs. That's the point I'm expressing.

steelerfan
06-16-2014, 07:16 PM
Yay! We're better than Trinidad & Tobago. Give us the trophy now. We're clearly too awesome.

Clearly, we're not the worst of the worst but watching the game, the final score could have easily been the other way the way Ghana controlled the ball and flow of the game.

Dude, NO ONE thinks the US will win the World Cup.

Oh, and according to FIFA, we're better than Chile, the Netherlands, France, Mexico, etc.

http://m.fifa.com/worldranking/rankingtable/

Results are more important than style.

bdoughty
06-16-2014, 07:17 PM
Then add his comments that he said he didn't expect to get far before the Cup started.

Then he did a reversal with, "Klinsmann said his return flight home isn’t until after the July 13 final."

bdoughty
06-16-2014, 07:19 PM
Dude, NO ONE thinks the US will win the World Cup.

This guy might...

http://abload.de/img/untitled-18jtped.gif

SmoothPancakes
06-16-2014, 07:22 PM
Then he did a reversal with, "Klinsmann said his return flight home isnít until after the July 13 final."

How do you get him reversing on what he said about the US' chances from that? I read that and first thing I see is that regardless of how the US does, he's going to be staying there through the final, if anything, to watch and attend the various matches. I don't see anything there that suggests he suddenly reversed course and thinks the US would make the final.

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steelerfan
06-16-2014, 07:25 PM
This guy might...

http://abload.de/img/untitled-18jtped.gif

Nah.

He just believes we can. Can, not will. :D

bdoughty
06-16-2014, 07:28 PM
How do you get him reversing on what he said about the US' chances from that? I read that and first thing I see is that regardless of how the US does, he's going to be staying there through the final, if anything, to watch and attend the various matches. I don't see anything there that suggests he suddenly reversed course and thinks the US would make the final.

The actual tweet.


U.S. Soccer ✔ @ussoccer
Follow

"You want to go far. That's definitely the goal. I booked my flight for after the final." #USMNT head coach @J_Klinsmann
1:43 PM - 15 Jun 2014


You can take it however you wish. I think he was simply trying to instill confidence after playing Debbie Downer and leaves some hope the US advances to the knockout stage.

souljahbill
06-16-2014, 07:28 PM
Dude, NO ONE thinks the US will win the World Cup.


And after watching today's game, we all can see why.

How we played today was good enough to beat Ghana but against Portugal (if Portugal plays how they're expected to play) and Germany, those are 2 L's, easily.

SmoothPancakes
06-16-2014, 07:33 PM
And after watching today's game, we all can see why.

How we played today was good enough to beat Ghana but against Portugal (if Portugal plays how they're expected to play) and Germany, those are 2 L's, easily.

After today, and even before, I think Germany has already always been pre-marked as a loss. We did what we had to do to beat Ghana, but I just don't see us having any chance against Germany, unless they play all back ups and sleepwalk through the match. The only question is do we lose by less than or more than 5 goals? Well, two questions, the second being will we even score a goal against the Germans?

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steelerfan
06-16-2014, 07:39 PM
And after watching today's game, we all can see why.

How we played today was good enough to beat Ghana but against Portugal (if Portugal plays how they're expected to play) and Germany, those are 2 L's, easily.

I think if you watched a bit of football, you'd be surprised at how a lesser team can earn a result against a powerful opponent by simply taking space away at the expense of possession.

I watch it happen to Chelsea all the time and watched an extremely shorthanded Chelsea side do it to Liverpool at Anfield late this season.

We'll see what happens. Who thought Costa Rica would beat Uruguay? Or that the Dutch would destroy Spain?

CLW
06-16-2014, 09:34 PM
63% chance for the U.S. to advance (I think we started at like 33% before today)

http://fivethirtyeight.com/interactives/world-cup/

SmoothPancakes
06-16-2014, 09:51 PM
Well, I personally think I'm going to wait and see how we do against Portugal before considering us having better than 50% odds of advancing. A win over Ghana is one thing. We've still got to take on the two "powerhouses" of the group in Portugal and Germany. How we play against Portugal will determine our chances. If we lose, it's over because Germany will kill us.

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steelerfan
06-17-2014, 03:27 AM
63% chance for the U.S. to advance (I think we started at like 33% before today)

http://fivethirtyeight.com/interactives/world-cup/

The initial SPI, immediately after the draw, had USA at 39% and Portugal at 40%. I just went back to the World Football thread and checked.

I know there are some here (and everywhere) that think the US has very little shot at getting any result from the match with Portugal. I think you may be surprised. The US can play with Portugal.

Add to the fact that the US is currently +5 in differential, compared to the Portuguese, Ronaldo being less than 100% and Pepe (their best defender) being suspended. I'd say 53% is fair right now. That said, a point against Portugal is a MUST.

Gonna be fun to watch. :)

CLW
06-17-2014, 09:24 AM
The initial SPI, immediately after the draw, had USA at 39% and Portugal at 40%. I just went back to the World Football thread and checked.

I know there are some here (and everywhere) that think the US has very little shot at getting any result from the match with Portugal. I think you may be surprised. The US can play with Portugal.

Add to the fact that the US is currently +5 in differential, compared to the Portuguese, Ronaldo being less than 100% and Pepe (their best defender) being suspended. I'd say 53% is fair right now. That said, a point against Portugal is a MUST.

Gonna be fun to watch. :)

Portugal is either going to come out flat (i.e. they have given up and will just walk through the remaining games and go home) or they will come out with their hair on fire knowing they MUST get 3 points against the US. Assuming Portugal puts forth an honest effort, I don't think a W is likely but a draw is certainly possible.

The key to the Portugal game will likely be conditioning. I believe we are playing in the damn rain forest the next game (same site England Italy). England looked GASSED at the end and had nothing in the tank by the end of the game. We also looked a little gassed towards the end of the Ghana game and the heat/humidity is only going to be worse next match.

I suspect Germany torches Ghana (2 or 3-0) and then decide to rest a large chunk of their team in the final against the U.S.

JBHuskers
06-17-2014, 01:00 PM
Team scoring first in the World Cup is now 8-6 through today's game.

jaymo76
06-17-2014, 01:30 PM
Very exciting game today as Belgium beat Algeria 2-1. I was pretty nervous after the 1st half. I thought the call for the penalty kick in the 1st half was a very, very weak call. I'm glad that the game was not settled on that.

jaymo76
06-17-2014, 02:26 PM
Really pulling for Mexico in this game versus Brazil. They are definitely underdogs but they are putting forth a strong effort.

jaymo76
06-17-2014, 02:30 PM
Wow! What a phenomenal save by the Mexican keeper.

steelerfan
06-17-2014, 02:45 PM
Portugal rules Fabio Coentrao out of World Cup with thigh strain. Hugo Almeida, Rui Patricio can return.

steelerfan
06-17-2014, 04:22 PM
Mexico draws with Brazil.

The perceived gap between Mexico and Brazil is greater than the gap between Portugal and the US.

It can be done. Getting out of Group G is not impossible.

JBHuskers
06-17-2014, 04:30 PM
Mexico draws with Brazil.

The perceived gap between Mexico and Brazil is greater than the gap between Portugal and the US.

It CAN be done. Getting out of Group G is not impossible.

Fixed.

JBHuskers
06-17-2014, 04:33 PM
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steelerfan
06-17-2014, 05:16 PM
U.S. coach Jurgen Klinsmann says "we still have hope" that Jozy Altidore (hamstring strain) can return.




Boy, I hope so. I'm doubtful, but I hope so.

CLW
06-17-2014, 05:20 PM
U.S. coach Jurgen Klinsmann says "we still have hope" that Jozy Altidore (hamstring strain) can return.




Boy, I hope so. I'm doubtful, but I hope so.

meh thats like the Bellicheck injury report. he definitely tore something the question is #1 how big/bad is the tear(s) - most likely 4 weeks at best so theoretically he could be ready roughly around the Final. Of course, its highly doubtful we get that far. Moreover, its not like they can replace him on the roster at this point (at least not to my knowledge) so why not hold out hope for some miracle.

CLW
06-17-2014, 06:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sS172L6Cmv8

CLW
06-17-2014, 08:33 PM
World Cup Audience in the U.S. Is GrowingMonday's Match Against Ghana Produced Records for ESPN, Univision
http://online.wsj.com/articles/u-s-match-in-world-cup-sets-a-tv-record-1403034850

jaymo76
06-18-2014, 12:57 PM
What a great game Australia vs. Netherlands! That game kept me on the edge of my seat. Props to the Aussies for punching well above their weight.

souljahbill
06-18-2014, 03:09 PM
Since there's a group of death, what's the group of life? The group of least resistance.

jaymo76
06-18-2014, 03:15 PM
Oh Spain... what has happened to you??? Wow! 2-0 Chile at the start of the 2nd.

JBHuskers
06-18-2014, 03:22 PM
479356499425116160

CLW
06-18-2014, 08:36 PM
This is almost exactly like 2002 France. The French did not score a goal in 3 games and managed only a 0-0 draw before bowing out. Spain had one hell of a run but its over now.

JBHuskers
06-19-2014, 01:46 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bqg4_RICUAA9iZ0.png

JBHuskers
06-19-2014, 03:29 PM
479722019471491074

JBHuskers
06-19-2014, 03:37 PM
Sure enough.... :D :D

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SmoothPancakes
06-19-2014, 03:54 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bqg4_RICUAA9iZ0.png

Make that 100% Uruguay.

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JBHuskers
06-19-2014, 03:56 PM
Make that 100% Uruguay.

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http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s159/jbennett98/Forum%20Pictures/NoShitSherlock.jpg

JBHuskers
06-19-2014, 04:17 PM
Here is a good candidate for CAPTION THIS :D

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqhcB6eCUAAvGcw.jpg

JBHuskers
06-19-2014, 04:30 PM
So one can sum up that the ESPN Soccer Index is a POS :D :D

479736492001361921

steelerfan
06-19-2014, 04:31 PM
Cahill looks like a scared alter boy trying to escape the "Sword of the Lord".

JBHuskers
06-19-2014, 04:33 PM
Cahill looks like a scared alter boy trying to escape the "Sword of the Lord".

http://www.demeterclarc.com/wp-content/uploads/images/2010/09/PEDOPRIEST.jpg

bdoughty
06-19-2014, 06:31 PM
Priceless...

http://i.minus.com/ib2zJqAegnnBXo.gif


http://i.imgur.com/bjxKww4.jpg

jaymo76
06-19-2014, 08:23 PM
I can't help but feel bad for England. To once be such a strong "football" nation and now to clearly be 2nd tier caliber must be agonizing. That's the "life-blood" in merry old England...

bdoughty
06-19-2014, 08:42 PM
I can't help but feel bad for England. To once be such a strong "football" nation and now to clearly be 2nd tier caliber must be agonizing. That's the "life-blood" in merry old England...

Feel bad? England? Yup, a Canadian has entered the thread. Don't feel too bad for England, they still have Cricket, which also happens to be their National Sport. Of course, they lost the Ashes this year which gave Australia the lead in the series. They do sip a mean cup of tea over there. ;)

steelerfan
06-20-2014, 01:19 AM
I can't help but feel bad for England. To once be such a strong "football" nation and now to clearly be 2nd tier caliber must be agonizing. That's the "life-blood" in merry old England...

I certainly would have preferred to see England win today than to see Suarez win.

JBHuskers
06-20-2014, 10:44 AM
I certainly would have preferred to see England win today than to see Suarez win.

:+1:

JBHuskers
06-20-2014, 10:46 AM
Let's see how wrong this will be :D

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqlXyTjCYAQte25.png

jaymo76
06-20-2014, 12:57 PM
Wow! Costa Rica!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JBHuskers
06-20-2014, 02:24 PM
480068499004739584

JBHuskers
06-20-2014, 02:55 PM
480074630527725568

JBHuskers
06-20-2014, 04:36 PM
Pencil Ecuador in for a loss :D

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqmpUmXIgAAENqh.png

CLW
06-20-2014, 04:42 PM
LOL the "problem" with computer ratings for soccer is the games can swing WILDLY and are subject to more volatility/variance than say basketball or football.

Moreover, a win when the probability was basically a 45/55 proposition (factoring out the tie) isn't that great of an upset.

bdoughty
06-20-2014, 06:53 PM
I certainly would have preferred to see England win today than to see Suarez win.

Well you can find racists on pretty much any national team. I know he bit one of the Chelsea players last season. Still, it is England.

steelerfan
06-20-2014, 07:56 PM
Well you can find racists on pretty much any national team. I know he bit one of the Chelsea players last season. Still, it is England.

The Chelsea player was Ivanovich and it was 2 seasons ago. Suarez also bit a player when he was playing for Ajax. He's just a dickbag. The racism charges and refusing to shake Evra's hand in his first match back from suspension don't really irritate me much. When you put it all together, he is an ass.

jaymo76
06-20-2014, 09:12 PM
I have to say that I love watching the World Cup and pretty much always have. My favourite year is probably 1990 when West Germany beat Argentina but this year is easily moving up my board to #1. Every match has been so exciting. Plus seeing all the goals have been a real surprise. For all the negatives, the Brazilians are putting on a good show.

CLW
06-21-2014, 03:36 PM
Argentina looked AWFUL today no movement whatsoever which makes loading up on D real easy.

that W versus Ghana is looking good now the way they are playing Germany even up. I'd prefer a German win (as its the best result for the US) but Ghana has played really well.

CLW
06-22-2014, 06:50 AM
We MUST WIN today. I got a BAD feeling if we draw today we will not advance to the knock out round.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/germanys-draw-didnt-help-the-u-s/

jaymo76
06-22-2014, 12:29 PM
Maybe it's just me but "kit" wise, the Russians look like they are wearing US style jerseys while the Americans, especially last game look like their unis are straight out of Russia.

SmoothPancakes
06-22-2014, 01:59 PM
We MUST WIN today. I got a BAD feeling if we draw today we will not advance to the knock out round.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/germanys-draw-didnt-help-the-u-s/

Yep. If we lose or draw today, we're gonna have to beat Germany to hope to advance. If we don't win today, either Ghana or Portugal will be advancing with Germany.

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steelerfan
06-22-2014, 02:01 PM
Big game in 3 hours for the US. They can either be atop the group and advance or they can be favored for elimination, depending on the result.

I'm not loving the Americans' chances today, but they do have a chance. Hopefully, some of you nay-sayers here have seen enough upsets in this World Cup to, at least, give the US a chance today. :)

I will be watching the match with a lady friend so I probably won't post much during the match. But, to my fellow Americans, LET'S DO THIS! :)

SmoothPancakes
06-22-2014, 02:32 PM
Why couldn't we have gotten Korea in our group? Jesus they are sucking right Noe against Algeria. Terrible defense.

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CLW
06-22-2014, 02:34 PM
Why couldn't we have gotten Korea in our group? Jesus they are sucking right Noe against Algeria. Terrible defense.

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B/C the World Cup is rigged :nod:

CLW
06-22-2014, 03:30 PM
Defense OPTIONAL in Algeria 4 v. Korea 2 - 20 mins left so at least 2 more goals :nod:

CLW
06-22-2014, 04:06 PM
Weather in the 80s humidity in the 80s. Going to be a TEST in fitness. Cannot blow the load early like we did against Ghana.

SmoothPancakes
06-22-2014, 04:12 PM
Weather in the 80s humidity in the 80s. Going to be a TEST in fitness. Cannot blow the load early like we did against Ghana.

I'd prefer not to blow the load early regardless. Nobody likes a guy who blows premature.

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SmoothPancakes
06-22-2014, 05:06 PM
This is gonna be a long match. :fp:

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CLW
06-22-2014, 05:48 PM
Well after the shank "clearance" we have actually played slightly better than Portugal. Can we score? I don't know. Portugal has guys that FINISH I'm not sure we do.

SmoothPancakes
06-22-2014, 05:51 PM
We just got LUCKY as fuck right there before halftime. Holy Christ. Portugal had two chances to go up 2-0.

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CLW
06-22-2014, 05:57 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqxLkPXCEAAlI47.jpg

bdoughty
06-22-2014, 06:41 PM
This is going to be a looooooong 10 minutes....

SmoothPancakes
06-22-2014, 06:42 PM
Holy fuck of tits Dempsey!

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bdoughty
06-22-2014, 06:44 PM
whew

SmoothPancakes
06-22-2014, 06:53 PM
Fuck fuck fuck!

bdoughty
06-22-2014, 06:54 PM
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.

CLW
06-22-2014, 06:56 PM
Defense let us down. They have been shaky both games. We deserved a loss in the 1st game got a win deserved a win 2nd game got a draw. I give us little chance of advancing now.

SmoothPancakes
06-22-2014, 06:56 PM
We're fucked. We pretty much have to beat Germany now to advance.

SmoothPancakes
06-22-2014, 07:01 PM
Ok, looking at the goal differentials, we HAVE to at least draw with Germany. If we win, great. If we draw, we still advance. If we lose, we're pretty much fucked.

CLW
06-22-2014, 07:02 PM
We're fucked. We pretty much have to beat Germany now to advance.

Either that or Klinsman needs to get on the horn and arrange a 0-0 draw. We concede the group to the Germans but guarantee advancing to the knockout stage in 2nd place. Crazier things have happened in soccer.

CLW
06-22-2014, 07:02 PM
Ok, looking at the goal differentials, we HAVE to at least draw with Germany. If we win, great. If we draw, we still advance. If we lose, we're pretty much fucked.

If we lose the only shot we have is if Portugal defeats Ghana and then not by 4 goals (assuming we only lose by 1 to Germany) and advance on goal differential.

steelerfan
06-23-2014, 12:19 AM
If we lose the only shot we have is if Portugal defeats Ghana and then not by 4 goals (assuming we only lose by 1 to Germany) and advance on goal differential.

If the US loses by one and Ghana wins by one, the US would likely go through on their head-to-head win over Ghana (unless Ghana wins like 3-2 or 4-3 or something).

There are plenty of positive scenarios for America still.

http://www.conmebol.com/en/content/tie-breaker-rules-group-stage-2014-world-cup-brazil

CLW
06-23-2014, 06:23 AM
If the US loses by one and Ghana wins by one, the US would likely go through on their head-to-head win over Ghana (unless Ghana wins like 3-2 or 4-3 or something).

There are plenty of positive scenarios for America still.

http://www.conmebol.com/en/content/tie-breaker-rules-group-stage-2014-world-cup-brazil

FIFA resolves ties in the group stage in the following order: goal differential, goals scored, head-to-head results. (Eventually, it gets down to drawing lots.) Ghana could out score us and thus the head to head results never come into play.

souljahbill
06-23-2014, 06:34 AM
So, for the US to advance, what are we looking at?

Win=in. That much I know.
Are we in with a draw? Should we lose, what's best case scenario?

CLW
06-23-2014, 06:46 AM
So, for the US to advance, what are we looking at?

Win=in. That much I know.
Are we in with a draw? Should we lose, what's best case scenario?

Scenarios

1. Defeat Germany - win the group advance
2. Tie Germany - advance in 2nd place in the group
3. Lose to Germany

a. Ghana Portugal Tie - U.S. advance in 2nd place

b. Ghana Defeats Portugal - Ghana and the U.S. would be in a tie for 2nd place so the first tiebreaker is Goal Differential. U.S. is currently at +1 Ghana Currently at -1. However, if we lose by default our Goal Differential would at best be 0 and Ghana at worst is at 0 if they defeat the U.S. - thus the likely determining factor is did US/Ghana win/lose by more goals in the final than the other. Assuming its the same the next tie breaker is goals scored. We are currently up 1 on Ghana in goals scored but again it would all depend on the scores of the final 2 games.

c. Portugal Defeats Ghana - Portugal and the U.S. would be in a tie for 2nd place. 1st tiebreaker is Goal Differential. Now the US probably will have the advantage unless Portugal DESTROYS Ghana (or we get destroyed by Germany) Portugal is currently -4 (due to the beat down by the Germans) we would hopefully be at 0 (losing by 1 to Germany). However, if Portugal somehow manages to destroy Ghana and/or a combo of a bad loss and a good win by Portugal it could come down to goals scored and potentially even drawing lots b/c there would be no head to head tiebreaker.

In short, if we lose to Germany we should probably root for Portugal to just barely beat out Ghana like 1-0. The games start at the exact same time so the players will most likely not know what results they need. I would expect Ghana/Portugal to be a very aggressive attacking game as both teams MUST WIN to have any hope of advancing so you could see allot of goals scored. In contrast, Germany US could be a more cautious defensive game.

http://www.espnfc.us/fifa-world-cup/story/1904117/how-the-us-can-qualify-for-the-last-16

CLW
06-23-2014, 07:02 AM
By the way although one would think its better for Portugal to defeat Ghana one can NEVER rule out Ghana rigging an IMPLOSION for some $ money

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/10918321/Football-match-fixing-deal-casts-cloud-over-World-Cup.html

steelerfan
06-23-2014, 09:35 AM
FIFA resolves ties in the group stage in the following order: goal differential, goals scored, head-to-head results. (Eventually, it gets down to drawing lots.) Ghana could out score us and thus the head to head results never come into play.

I know. That's why I said "unless they win 3-2, 4-3 etc."

I was responding to your statement that the "only" way through was with a Portugal win. That's simply not true.

steelerfan
06-23-2014, 09:37 AM
So, for the US to advance, what are we looking at?

Win=in. That much I know.
Are we in with a draw? Should we lose, what's best case scenario?

Doesn't matter. The US sucks. ;)

In reality, I'm glad to see you taking some interest, Bill. :up:

souljahbill
06-23-2014, 09:51 AM
Doesn't matter. The US sucks. ;)

In reality, I'm glad to see you taking some interest, Bill. :up:

When I said we suck, I wasn't saying we're horrible. What I was saying that we got lucky beating Ghana when Ghana had the ball for what seemed like the entire game, firing shot after shot.

And while I don't watch professional league soccer, I watch international soccer whenever I see it's on.

steelerfan
06-23-2014, 10:03 AM
When I said we suck, I wasn't saying we're horrible. What I was saying that we got lucky beating Ghana when Ghana had the ball for what seemed like the entire game, firing shot after shot.

And while I don't watch professional league soccer, I watch international soccer whenever I see it's on.

Just busting your balls, buddy. :)

JBHuskers
06-23-2014, 10:38 AM
Is goal differential ahead of head to head in the tiebreaker?

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JBHuskers
06-23-2014, 10:53 AM
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JBHuskers
06-23-2014, 10:55 AM
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JBHuskers
06-23-2014, 10:59 AM
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CLW
06-23-2014, 11:41 AM
Is goal differential ahead of head to head in the tiebreaker?

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Yes. GD is the 1st tiebreaker. Head to head is like the 3rd (after Goals scored)

steelerfan
06-23-2014, 11:58 AM
http://www.conmebol.com/en/content/tie-breaker-rules-group-stage-2014-world-cup-brazil

JB, the tiebreakers for the Group Stage are in the link above. :up:

JBHuskers
06-23-2014, 02:44 PM
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JBHuskers
06-23-2014, 02:58 PM
:D :D :D

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steelerfan
06-24-2014, 12:40 PM
And Suarez just bit an Italian defender. That guy is the biggest fucking turd in football.

JBHuskers
06-24-2014, 12:50 PM
And Suarez just bit an Italian defender. That guy is the biggest fucking turd in football.

:nod: someone needs to just take a red card to kick him square in the nuts.

SmoothPancakes
06-24-2014, 12:51 PM
:nod: someone needs to just take a red card to kick him square in the nuts.

Isn't Italy eliminated if they lose? In that case, wait until its clear they are done (final seconds) and then go straight for the nuts.

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SmoothPancakes
06-24-2014, 12:53 PM
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JBHuskers
06-24-2014, 12:53 PM
Isn't Italy eliminated if they lose? In that case, wait until its clear they are done (final seconds) and then go straight for the nuts.

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steelerfan
06-24-2014, 01:09 PM
Honestly, I'd rather see him beat down. Knock every one of those fucking teeth out. In fact, I hope an Italian supporter takes a tire iron to his chops.

I'm sure he will be suspended for the remainder of the World Cup. That, however, isn't enough. I'd like to see him banned, permanently, from all FIFA competitions.

SmoothPancakes
06-24-2014, 01:13 PM
Honestly, I'd rather see him beat down. Knock every one of those fucking teeth out. In fact, I hope an Italian supporter takes a tire iron to his chops.

I'm sure he will be suspended for the remainder of the World Cup. That, however, isn't enough. I'd like to see him banned, permanently, from all FIFA competitions.

Yeah, that 10 game suspension last time obviously didn't teach the jackass anything.

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steelerfan
06-24-2014, 01:29 PM
Yeah, that 10 game suspension last time obviously didn't teach the jackass anything.

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Nor did the 7-game ban in 2010 when he was at Ajax.

From what I've read, FIFA can give him a 2-year ban. Hopefully, that's not ALL they can do.

SmoothPancakes
06-24-2014, 01:43 PM
Nor did the 7-game ban in 2010 when he was at Ajax.

From what I've read, FIFA can give him a 2-year ban. Hopefully, that's not ALL they can do.

Hell, hopefully they at least do that much. FIFA sure hasn't shown any signs of balls lately when it comes to punishments handed out against clubs. Maybe they'll have some balls against Suarez.

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steelerfan
06-24-2014, 03:17 PM
Hell, hopefully they at least do that much. FIFA sure hasn't shown any signs of balls lately when it comes to punishments handed out against clubs. Maybe they'll have some balls against Suarez.

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FIFA rarely gets involved at the club level (though they have let Barcelona off the hook on the transfer ban). Most sanctions against clubs are handled domestically (ie The FA) or by the respective confederations (ie UEFA).

For example, Suarez' 10-match ban was handed out by the English FA (the EPL is part of their jurisdiction) and the Financial Fair Play sanctions against Manchester City came from UEFA (FFP is a Europe/UEFA-specific regulation).

SmoothPancakes
06-24-2014, 03:20 PM
FIFA rarely gets involved at the club level (though they have let Barcelona off the hook on the transfer ban). Most sanctions against clubs are handled domestically (ie The FA) or by the respective confederations (ie UEFA).

For example, Suarez' 10-match ban was handed out by the English FA (the EPL is part of their jurisdiction) and the Financial Fair Play sanctions against Manchester City came from UEFA (FFP is a Europe/UEFA-specific regulation).

Ahh, alright. I thought everything went through FIFA. Still trying to get a grasp on everything with the multiple levels (FA, UEFA, FIFA, etc).

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steelerfan
06-24-2014, 03:54 PM
Ahh, alright. I thought everything went through FIFA. Still trying to get a grasp on everything with the multiple levels (FA, UEFA, FIFA, etc).

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The easiest way to explain it is like this:

If it affects global competitions (ie World Cup, Club World Cup, Confederations Cup etc) it will be handled by FIFA.

If it's on the continental level (ie Champions League, Europa League, Euro etc) it will be handled by the Confederation (UEFA, CONMEBOL, CONCACAF, AFC, OFC, CAF).

If it is domestic (MLS, EPL, FA Cup), it is handled by that nation's governing body (ie The FA).

There are some things that fall outside of the norm such as the examples from the last post. FIFA governs transfer policy globally, which is why they are/were handling the Barcelona deal and it wasn't handled in Spain or by UEFA. It's rules that virtually every club must follow worldwide.

In the case of FFP, that is a rule that UEFA put in to govern/control spending among the clubs in their jurisdiction (Europe).

Therefore, if a player is suspended by the English FA, he can't play in their competitions (EPL, FA Cup, Capital One Cup) during the suspension. He is eligible, however, to play in the UCL or Europa League. The FA doesn't have the authority to prevent that, UEFA does. He could also play in, for example, the World Cup because only FIFA has the right to suspend him there.

Hope that was comprehensible, it's probably the simplest explanation I can give. :)

SmoothPancakes
06-24-2014, 04:23 PM
Yeah, that helped to clear things up more and detail more who has what control. Thanks for that! :up:

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