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MS' green just doesn't look as good as blue. Generally speaking I find green ugly. Doesn't mean anything but I do like the PS4 covers better as a result.
gschwendt
06-10-2013, 03:53 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VWVSwEtJQU
That looks nice but I don't see it as a massive upgrade, especially since the game play camera will be zoomed out. At this point the real cpu AI and game play remains an unknown. Will there be a next gen demo at E3?
The one thing that definitely stood out was the hand fighting in the trenches. OL/DL was built from scratch I guess.
Daywalker86
06-11-2013, 03:08 PM
I think what is going to stand out is player movement and interaction.
I would anticipate the ol' robo run with all arms moving in unison , and heads cocked at awkward angles should be a thing of the past.
skipwondah33
06-11-2013, 03:12 PM
I think what is going to stand out is player movement and interaction. That was my thinking as well
gschwendt
06-11-2013, 03:27 PM
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Yep was going to say OS tweeted same thing -- no cameras. If this thing is launching this year they have a LONG way to go. I wonder if a full owner mode etc... is even going to make this one.
OS tweeting no camera allowed in/around any of EA's next-gen titles.
Madscientist said next gen Madden was great but I need to see cpu AI. Just running with AP doesn't show that.
On a segment with IGN today, it was announced that Madden 25 (Next-gen) will be full-featured.
IGN: Madden NFL 25 Next-gen Gameplay Demo (http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/06/11/madden-nfl-25-gameplay-demo-ign-live-e3-2013)
Least impressive was Madden NFL 25 which didn’t stand out as a huge leap over the current generation version which had been played earlier in the day. Before jumping to judgment keep in mind this comes from early in development and featured all 22 players on field but in a practice environment with only running plays as Adrian Peterson. Enhancements to the blocking were the focus here but it seemed like the current gen version had already showed a lot of it and the physics and animations were somewhat familiar. Madden just didn’t “pop” the way the other next-gen games on display did.
http://www.pastapadre.com/2013/06/11/quick-thoughts-from-e3-2013-day-one
PS4 looked vey similar for IE but line play looked much more fluid and dynamic.
bdoughty
06-11-2013, 11:32 PM
Actual next gen gameplay footage, I kid you not.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aQnmAaQaTE
Daywalker86
06-13-2013, 01:20 PM
just....not very impressed with this footage.
It's early...but....yea.....meh
Lost of time though. We will see.
JBHuskers
06-13-2013, 02:19 PM
Well one thing to remember, this next gen isn't as LARGE of a step up. By the time we get the final version, all those extra bells and whistles might be in there, or mabye not until next year.
jaymo76
06-14-2013, 08:29 PM
I am curious as to how Ea/Tiburon defines "fully featyred?" Does that mean that it has lots of features, all of the features the ps3 version does or a new set of features not found within the ps3 version?
jaymo76
06-17-2013, 06:28 PM
So how many people are going to pick up Madden 25 AND Madden 25 for PS4/XBOX 1???
I OU a Beatn
06-17-2013, 06:42 PM
I'd love to say I wont, but I'd almost bet I do.
No to next gen this year. Maybe next year.
I'll be really tempted especially if it truly is "fully featured".
jaymo76
06-17-2013, 08:53 PM
I'll be really tempted especially if it truly is "fully featured".
That's the real question. How does EA define fully featured? If it was NCAA 25 for PS3 except that its visuals and memory, etc. was made for PS4 I would upgrade in a heartbeat.
steelerfan
06-17-2013, 10:24 PM
So how many people are going to pick up Madden 25 AND Madden 25 for PS4/XBOX 1???
I can almost guarantee that I won't get it on ps3. The only way I'll end up with it on ps4 is if I go crazy buying titles at launch. Hell, I'm not even sure when I'll make the jump to ps4.
I'm using Tapatalk 2 and the Cleveland Browns STILL suck.
jaymo76
06-17-2013, 11:31 PM
I can almost guarantee that I won't get it on ps3. The only way I'll end up with it on ps4 is if I go crazy buying titles at launch. Hell, I'm not even sure when I'll make the jump to ps4.
I'm using Tapatalk 2 and the Cleveland Browns STILL suck.
After all the patches and stuff last year, Madden was pretty solid. Steeler, I figured once you saw the FIFA 14 PS4 trailer you would have pre-ordered right then and there.
steelerfan
06-18-2013, 12:07 AM
After all the patches and stuff last year, Madden was pretty solid. Steeler, I figured once you saw the FIFA 14 PS4 trailer you would have pre-ordered right then and there.
FIFA does look great, for sure. My issue is that I can't see waiting for next gen to get 14 and, likewise, I can't see buying it in September for ps3 and again a couple months later for ps4.
I'm using Tapatalk 2 and the Cleveland Browns STILL suck.
JBHuskers
06-18-2013, 12:33 AM
I'm getting Madden 25 for PS3 for Sunday Ticket. Might just sell the game on eBay right away and use that money to preorder it for PS4 :D
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jaymo76
06-18-2013, 01:09 AM
I'm getting Madden 25 for PS3 for Sunday Ticket. Might just sell the game on eBay right away and use that money to preorder it for PS4 :D
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... Inside information that the PS4 version will have ALL of the features as the PS3 version??? Don't worry, I won't tell anyone!
JBHuskers
06-18-2013, 08:55 AM
... Inside information that the PS4 version will have ALL of the features as the PS3 version??? Don't worry, I won't tell anyone!
Don't go to Madden CD's so I know as much as you.
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jaymo76
06-19-2013, 11:48 PM
Read this from Steve at OS.
All features from current gen will make its way to next-gen. In addition to that, Next-Gen Madden will have smarter commentary than current gen with some other things up their sleeve that they will announce at a later date.
Sounds good.
countryboy
06-20-2013, 05:19 AM
I read somewhere in all the media coverage of E3 that Madden 25 on PS4/XB1 will allow you to import draft classes from NCAA 14.
Any truth to this?
I read somewhere in all the media coverage of E3 that Madden 25 on PS4/XB1 will allow you to import draft classes from NCAA 14.
Any truth to this?
It hasn't been confirmed yet for next gen, only current gen. They did say they were hoping to get that in.
jaymo76
06-20-2013, 12:48 PM
I don't think it will happen as the PS4 is not backwards compatible. However, if we could transfer rosters over that would be phenomenal (assuming we are allowed to in Canada... :fp: j/k)
gschwendt
06-20-2013, 01:35 PM
They could theoretically do it with the PS3/PS4 by allowing you to copy the save file off to a USB and then import it. It would probably be quite difficult doing it that way though because then Madden PS4 would have to be able to decipher NCAA PS3 save files. The other way would be if they allowed you to somehow upload to a website or something, it parses the PS3 file and then the PS4 could download it.
My bet is that they end up skipping draft class import on next gen for this year.
They could theoretically do it with the PS3/PS4 by allowing you to copy the save file off to a USB and then import it. It would probably be quite difficult doing it that way though because then Madden PS4 would have to be able to decipher NCAA PS3 save files. The other way would be if they allowed you to somehow upload to a website or something, it parses the PS3 file and then the PS4 could download it.
My bet is that they end up skipping draft class import on next gen for this year.
Yeah I doubt it as well and that's not a biggie to me anyways. I haven't played enough Madden in the past to really get deep enough into Franchise mode were my old NCAA guys are now the stars of the league.
gschwendt
06-20-2013, 05:14 PM
Five Questions with Madden 25 Creative Director Rex Dickson
http://www.easports.com/madden-nfl/news-updates-gameplay/article/madden-25-xbox-one-ps-4-interview
countryboy
06-22-2013, 09:53 AM
It hasn't been confirmed yet for next gen, only current gen. They did say they were hoping to get that in.
this will help me decide which console to purchase Madden on, providing I pick up the PS4 at launch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3xKYi76bR8
skipwondah33
06-26-2013, 07:45 AM
Can't see myself buying both of them
Definitely want the next gen version, but all of my leagues will be on the PS3 version.
So likely to hold off on next gen unless I get a bonus or something at work, or sell my other games on PS3.
A preview but nothing really new.
http://thescoutlife.com/2013/08/04/inside-scoop-madden-25/
jaymo76
08-04-2013, 12:50 PM
Looking forward to actually seeing what theses sidelines look like. How interactive is interactive?
jaymo76
08-04-2013, 12:52 PM
I'm still holding out hope for the return of a weekly wrap up show but I just don't know if Tiburon can pull it off. I know 2k can do it because they are great at that type of stuff but Tiburon really struggles with depth of immersion.
jaymo76
08-07-2013, 08:01 PM
I read on OS that apparently an EA?tiburon "ghost team" has been working on next gen madden for almost two years. Based on the preview trailer I just don't see it. So much of the game shown thus far looks like current gen madden.
I have no real expectations for next gen to be this great and new experience. I do expect it to be very similar to current gen with updated visuals. I don't buy any of the marketing hype right now. I need to see it to believe it - things like smarter computer AI.
GatorfanStovy
08-08-2013, 12:17 PM
I bet we won't see any improvement in Madden until like maybe 16 or 17. They will be slow mofo's like always. I just want a better mode and improved mode for creater player / imported player from NCAA guy.
jaymo76
08-15-2013, 03:23 PM
OS is reporting that SEASON TICKET will NOT be available for PS4/XBOX1. Season ticket is only a current gen product. There is no word as of yet if next gen will have this product available in future years.
jaymo76
08-24-2013, 09:08 PM
Take it for what it's worth and consider the source... but... one of the mods at OS says he has an "inside" contact who is recommending to pass on Madden 25 for PS4/1. He didn't elaborate on why. Another person said he had also had a few minutes with the all-running build at E3 and it felt... "rough."
Kingpin32
08-24-2013, 09:26 PM
Take it for what it's worth and consider the source... but... one of the mods at OS says he has an "inside" contact who is recommending to pass on Madden 25 for PS4/1. He didn't elaborate on why. Another person said he had also had a few minutes with the all-running build at E3 and it felt... "rough."
This is what I was afraid of. I wish EA Sports would just skip that initial launch period. Though it seems that FIFA will come out well, but Madden hasn't fared well during console launches.
jaymo76
08-24-2013, 09:34 PM
This is what I was afraid of. I wish EA Sports would just skip that initial launch period. Though it seems that FIFA will come out well, but Madden hasn't fared well during console launches.
I'm really struggling with this one because I am on the fence with this game. I will get it but only one copy, not two. I want to hear more about the ps4 edition. I may wait until Christmas again this year???
Jaymo, Best Buy in Canada is offering a $60 credit on current gen Madden if you upgrade it towards next gen. It makes it an easy decision. Future Shop is also doing it and the promotion is for both Madden and Fifa.
http://www.bestbuy.ca/Marketing/Promotions/PromotionPopup.aspx?Id=7867
http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/madden-nfl-25-playstation-3/10239960.aspx
jaymo76
08-25-2013, 10:29 AM
Jaymo, Best Buy in Canada is offering a $60 credit on current gen Madden if you upgrade it towards next gen. It makes it an easy decision. Future Shop is also doing it and the promotion is for both Madden and Fifa.
http://www.bestbuy.ca/Marketing/Promotions/PromotionPopup.aspx?Id=7867
http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/madden-nfl-25-playstation-3/10239960.aspx
That's a pretty good deal. Thanks for posting Rudy. However, if your CFM doesn't transfer over it would be a tough sell for me.
Take it for what it's worth and consider the source... but... one of the mods at OS says he has an "inside" contact who is recommending to pass on Madden 25 for PS4/1. He didn't elaborate on why. Another person said he had also had a few minutes with the all-running build at E3 and it felt... "rough."
Well when EA gives no info about a title before a release there is ALWAYS a reason (and the reason is the game SUCKS and they know it). We've seen next to NOTHING about this game for PS4/XB1 and the game launches in 2 months and some change. I've played the Season Ticket on PS3 and I'm not that impressed so I'll wait and see about PS4 but most likely its a rental or pass while I play other solid PS4 titles this year in stead. I'm just tired of shelling out $60 to EA for titles solely b/c they are the only option and I want a sports video game.
Its just not enough for me anymore to justify a purchase when there are other genres of titles that are a much better value for my $.
gschwendt
09-27-2013, 11:04 AM
Teaser of a video coming on Monday...
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10100471247797813
Teaser of a video coming on Monday...
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10100471247797813
First, 5 billion to one odds its nothing but close in shots showing off the graphics which will be eerily similar to the CGI stunt they pulled last gen.
Mark your calendar, here's a taste of what you'll see from Madden 25 on Xbox One and PS4 on Monday
Second, I didn't know EA was even allowed to mention the words Sony and/or PS4. MS will not be pleased with all that money they gave them. :nod:
SCClassof93
09-27-2013, 04:14 PM
Teaser of a video coming on Monday...
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10100471247797813
Is this a "teaser" for the "teaser" coming on Monday :D
gschwendt
09-30-2013, 04:49 PM
Supposedly this is next gen... if so, ugh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SE3wLTZDtM
JBHuskers
09-30-2013, 04:54 PM
Hmmmm....would ESPN be using next-gen stuff already?
I'm kinda happy that MUT cards are carrying over. This is the most I've played MUT in a while.
SCClassof93
09-30-2013, 05:05 PM
Supposedly this is next gen... if so, ugh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SE3wLTZDtM
Agreed! Presentation/voice seems better but the game play graphics do not.
gschwendt
09-30-2013, 05:21 PM
I downloaded the video and whoever generated that, didn't do any favors visually... it's only 720p (should be 1080p for next gen) and it's only 3mb/s bitrate which is pitiful.
bdoughty
09-30-2013, 05:46 PM
Yikes, if that is next gen footage. That has to be current gen, look at the sidelines and the same camera guy being used multiple times in the end zone shot.
Borrowed from a Neogaf
http://i.imgur.com/Qyvn5UW.jpg
gschwendt
09-30-2013, 05:58 PM
Here's the official video from EA...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4DdxdIHwN0
bdoughty
09-30-2013, 06:12 PM
http://www.easports.com/madden-nfl/news-updates-gameplay/article/madden-25-next-gen-interview
That can't be next gen for the Dolphins and Saints. That looked the same as the PS3.
The official trailer looked good imo.
souljahbill
09-30-2013, 06:50 PM
Sooooo pretty!
Wooo not a MILLISECOND of actual gameplay. Love me some smoke and mirrors hype. :nod:
http://web-vassets.ea.com/Assets/Resources/Image/madden-next-gen-15.jpg
ON THE CROWDS
In the past, we could only render 16 crowd characters on cards. Now they’ll be 3D, and we’re going to create crowds that have indiscernible patterns to where it feels like there are tens of thousands of people in the stands.
Funny b/c I see the same African-American man with a red baseball cap at least 10 times in that screen shot.
morsdraconis
10-01-2013, 08:09 AM
Yeah. That is pretty much the same shit that 2k has been doing in their NBA games for 4 or 5 years now. :smh:
SCClassof93
10-01-2013, 10:46 AM
Well, at least we now have some "official" info :D :sf: will be most pleased I am sure :nod:
More Details on Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen Visuals Come From Twitter Q&A
http://www.pastapadre.com/2013/10/01/more-details-on-madden-nfl-25-next-gen-visuals-come-from-twitter-qa
GatorfanStovy
10-01-2013, 08:05 PM
Did u guys really expect the graphics to better then the current gen systems? Really guys come on now :fp:
jaymo76
10-01-2013, 08:23 PM
Wooo not a MILLISECOND of actual gameplay. Love me some smoke and mirrors hype. :nod:
Very frustrating. It appears as though this game will be carbon copied and then visually updated from the current gen versions. They are not showing us anything because there apparently is nothing to see.
gschwendt
10-01-2013, 08:33 PM
Very frustrating. It appears as though this game will be carbon copied and then visually updated from the current gen versions. They are not showing us anything because there apparently is nothing to see.
I wouldn't go that far... every year that EA shows their latest games, they always show the presentation aspects first, then move to gameplay & features. It's their marketing routine, the only difference here is that it's more compressed since there's 45 days away instead of 90+.
I'm not saying give them a pass, but it's nothing different than what we've had before... so set your expectations accordingly.
jaymo76
10-01-2013, 11:04 PM
I wouldn't go that far... every year that EA shows their latest games, they always show the presentation aspects first, then move to gameplay & features. It's their marketing routine, the only difference here is that it's more compressed since there's 45 days away instead of 90+.
I'm not saying give them a pass, but it's nothing different than what we've had before... so set your expectations accordingly.
Normally I would agree with you but this video makes me very nervous. Apparently it is next gen gameplay.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SE3wLTZDtM
The Dolphin unis are still incorrect but the field and stands clearly show this to be next gen. To me it looks identical with the exception of visual upgrades.
That video was compressed so it's lower res Jaymo but I agree. That vid looks exactly like what I see on my PS3. Same weak animations and gameplay. I really am having a hard time believing that was actual next gen footage because you would never tell the gameplay is different in that vid. There is NOTHING I'm seeing right now that would cause me to get a new system for Madden. Every time I've upgraded my system it's to get the upgraded football game(s). This time it will be for Uncharted 4 unless the Madden team shows me something improved. I was thinking of upgrading next summer but that may be on hold if UC4 isn't around. I don't think Madden next gen gameplay will be worth it but I hope I'm wrong.
JBHuskers
10-02-2013, 09:58 AM
I'm kinda wondering that since this game is going to be on a 9 month retail cycle instead of 12 months, that we're not going to get all the bells and whistles in the first Gen 4 game....
I'm kinda wondering that since this game is going to be on a 9 month retail cycle instead of 12 months, that we're not going to get all the bells and whistles in the first Gen 4 game....
IF this isn't at a bare minimum EVERYTHING currently offered on PS3 (online Franchise or whatever the hell they call it) I'm out. I'm not buying a watered down product just so EA can brag about how they added a "new" feature which we had on PS2 and/or PS3.
gschwendt
10-02-2013, 12:36 PM
IF this isn't at a bare minimum EVERYTHING currently offered on PS3 (online Franchise or whatever the hell they call it) I'm out. I'm not buying a watered down product just so EA can brag about how they added a "new" feature which we had on PS2 and/or PS3.
Pretty sure they already said that everything in current gen would be available in next gen... can't remember where I read that though.
JBHuskers
10-02-2013, 12:36 PM
Pretty sure they already said that everything in current gen would be available in next gen... can't remember where I read that though.
I believe you're right on that. I was talking about things like sidelines and etc. That might not be until Madden 15.
I'm kinda wondering that since this game is going to be on a 9 month retail cycle instead of 12 months, that we're not going to get all the bells and whistles in the first Gen 4 game....
I agree. It makes next year's game unlikely to have big upgrades since it's such a short turnaround. I could probably guess that the first next gen Madden game that will be a good and complete game would be Madden 16.
JBHuskers
10-03-2013, 10:05 AM
I agree. It makes next year's game unlikely to have big upgrades since it's such a short turnaround. I could probably guess that the first next gen Madden game that will be a good and complete game would be Madden 16.
I dunno if it will be 16 before that. I can see 15 show us the stuff next gen can do.
I dunno if it will be 16 before that. I can see 15 show us the stuff next gen can do.
EA might be better off skipping this year for next gen if its too rough.
souljahbill
10-03-2013, 04:00 PM
EA might be better off skipping this year for next gen if its too rough.
That'll be the day
JBHuskers
10-04-2013, 09:35 AM
EA might be better off skipping this year for next gen if its too rough.
I'm sure the majority that don't frequent sites like ours thought the first Gen 3 version of Madden was just fine. So it'll sell regardless.
SCClassof93
10-04-2013, 09:39 AM
That'll be the day
Need a holding breath emoticon :D
I'm sure the majority that don't frequent sites like ours thought the first Gen 3 version of Madden was just fine. So it'll sell regardless.
Sell to who? The userbase of this next gen will be very small before Christmas. There won't be many next gen sales for Madden with it coming out in November imo. I think they will be lucky to sell 300,000 across both systems and if that game is a dud the bad word of mouth may be very damaging for the next year in addition to slowing down the necessary improvements. They will move FAR more next gen Madden games in 2014 when it is the normal launch window and more systems have been sold imo.
gschwendt
10-05-2013, 09:30 AM
Preview of Madden and FIFA
http://www.idigitaltimes.com/articles/20216/20131004/xbox-one-hands-on-review-ea-sports.htm
jaymo76
10-05-2013, 11:16 AM
Preview of Madden and FIFA
http://www.idigitaltimes.com/articles/20216/20131004/xbox-one-hands-on-review-ea-sports.htm
Sounds promising. The FIFA videos look great so I'm not sure why MADDEN is so hesitant to release REAL and SUSTAINED gameplay videos. FIFA has dozens. It's now time for Madden to step up.
Sounds like a marketing arm for EA. How reliable is that site? I want an preview from Owen Good of Kotaku or OS because that Dolphins-Saints video looked bad. Way too many impressions being swayed by close up graphics.
jaymo76
10-05-2013, 05:57 PM
Sounds like a marketing arm for EA. How reliable is that site? I want an preview from Owen Good of Kotaku or OS because that Dolphins-Saints video looked bad. Way too many impressions being swayed by close up graphics.
Agreed Rudy. Based on the fact that this game is slightly over one month away from release and there has been no official sustained real gameplay footage is frustrating. Since the game comes out before the new system, we really need to hear a full in-depth analysis and see a full game played.
jaymo76
10-05-2013, 07:05 PM
Just listened to the podcast with Grisham, Padre and CDJ... Richard Grisham's comment on Madden vs FIFA for next gen (xbox 1 version) were very dissapointing to hear. However, his comments on FIFA got me excited. Basically he confirmed that Madden 25 on current gen will be entirely madden 25 next gen except for better commentary, visuals, and player movement.
Just listened to the podcast with Grisham, Padre and CDJ... Richard Grisham's comment on Madden vs FIFA for next gen (xbox 1 version) were very dissapointing to hear. However, his comments on FIFA got me excited. Basically he confirmed that Madden 25 on current gen will be entirely madden 25 next gen except for better commentary, visuals, and player movement.
Not really surprising. I do remember liking the better blocking in the IGN E3 video. I saw more dynamic movement on the line. I'd love to see smarter cpu AI with better playcalling and use of their personel but for the first game as a port I kind of doubt we will see that right away.
JBHuskers
10-08-2013, 04:27 PM
Just listened to the podcast with Grisham, Padre and CDJ... Richard Grisham's comment on Madden vs FIFA for next gen (xbox 1 version) were very dissapointing to hear. However, his comments on FIFA got me excited. Basically he confirmed that Madden 25 on current gen will be entirely madden 25 next gen except for better commentary, visuals, and player movement.
Kinda called that one.
FIFA is going to be a BEAST.
Just listened to the podcast with Grisham, Padre and CDJ... Richard Grisham's comment on Madden vs FIFA for next gen (xbox 1 version) were very dissapointing to hear. However, his comments on FIFA got me excited. Basically he confirmed that Madden 25 on current gen will be entirely madden 25 next gen except for better commentary, visuals, and player movement.
Where was the podcast. I have long assumed Madden 25 was going to be the same plus better graphics and if that is the case I'll prob just spend my $60 elsewhere. The smart glass feature is interesting but its not going to be on PS4 so that's another reason to not buy the product.
jaymo76
10-08-2013, 09:11 PM
Where was the podcast. I have long assumed Madden 25 was going to be the same plus better graphics and if that is the case I'll prob just spend my $60 elsewhere. The smart glass feature is interesting but its not going to be on PS4 so that's another reason to not buy the product.
It's the press row podcast on pastapadre.com
gschwendt
10-10-2013, 02:19 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=D-8OsTDaEPA
bdoughty
10-10-2013, 05:02 PM
What exactly am I supposed to "feel" next week?
What exactly am I supposed to "feel" next week?
feel the GRASS :nod:
feel the GRASS :nod:
Nothing will come close to the "wind socks" of NCAA Football (was that '12?) lol. Those jokes went viral.
fisherjr33
10-10-2013, 09:26 PM
I'm kinda wondering that since this game is going to be on a 9 month retail cycle instead of 12 months, that we're not going to get all the bells and whistles in the first Gen 4 game....
So will customers be paying 75% of the price? No? Just getting 75% of the product then?
JBHuskers
10-10-2013, 10:50 PM
So will customers be paying 75% of the price? No? Just getting 75% of the product then?
16% of the price trading in the PS3 version.
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bdoughty
10-11-2013, 12:05 AM
16% of the price trading in the PS3 version.
Which was 100% of the price for only 50% of the game, since defense was forgotten this year. :drum:
gschwendt
10-14-2013, 11:24 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=76k5oAaCpak
At least that video was a good quality but nothing about that video excited me for next gen Madden. I am surprised they didn't re-shoot all the animations. They need work. The video just looked like a slightly prettier version of what we have right now.
I used to think porting was a good thing and I campaigned for it because I didn't want to take any steps backwards this generation. But I'd like to get a football game that looked and felt different and hopefully in a good way. That's not going to happen for this game imo.
And EA pulls the video due to negative reaction. The game is close to gold or has already gone gold! This is the game folks! If you are pulling videos because you are embarrassed with how it looks you might as well cancel it and work hard on getting it better for next year. Maybe the game has to be experienced to appreciate it. I don't know but this is not looking good for EA.
Edit: OS has a copy of the video that can still be viewed. People are wondering where the true step motion stuff went. One guy at E3 was really happy with it but isn't seeing it in the video.
http://www.operationsports.com/videos/2149/madden-nfl-25-mnf-simulation-colts-vs-chargers-xbox-one/
bdoughty
10-14-2013, 03:55 PM
Back up on youtube... If this is next gen consider me happy staying with current gen for awhile. I had a Syphon Filter flashback with those running animations.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY_3DTOEHwg
jaymo76
10-14-2013, 07:30 PM
I cannot access the video anywhere. EA must be petrified to release this game at this point.
bdoughty
10-14-2013, 07:49 PM
I cannot access the video anywhere. EA must be petrified to release this game at this point.
Get it while it lasts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5acLis6jpig
I cannot access the video anywhere. EA must be petrified to release this game at this point.
Click on the OS link I posted above if they go down again. They took the video and put it on its own site. It's not subjected to someone pulling it back from youtube.
bdoughty
10-14-2013, 07:58 PM
You can also get the video here, along with some commentary on the situation.
http://kotaku.com/espn-says-its-been-using-next-gen-madden-footage-it-l-1445158516
bdoughty
10-14-2013, 08:02 PM
Click on the OS link I posted above if they go down again.
Even better go to the thread for the video at OS. Priceless. (http://www.operationsports.com/forums/madden-nfl-football/670722-madden-nfl-25-video-mnf-simulation-colts-vs-chargers-xbox-one.html)
Even better go to the thread for the video at OS. Priceless. (http://www.operationsports.com/forums/madden-nfl-football/670722-madden-nfl-25-video-mnf-simulation-colts-vs-chargers-xbox-one.html)
That thread is blowing up like crazy. There are over 400 posts already! Even die hard Madden guys are disappointed.
jaymo76
10-14-2013, 08:49 PM
Thanks for re-posting guys. Not too much there but it wasn't as bad as OS made it out to be. Same game slightly better graphics. Now they really need to just show us 10 mins of REAL footage... it's less tan a month until release on ps4!!!!
bdoughty
10-14-2013, 11:24 PM
Now they really need to just show us 10 mins of REAL footage... it's less tan a month until release on ps4!!!!
EA seems to be doing everything it can to avoid showing real footage. Look at that smart glass video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE-_eg-CM_0), they move away from the game to the smart glass each time the ball is snapped (one time they show it from a distance). It is a month away and there are no competitors that might steal one of their ideas. They are getting lambasted the past few weeks over the quality of these ESPN videos and all EA has to respond with is "feel this" and "count all the blades of glass."
jaymo76
10-14-2013, 11:54 PM
EA seems to be doing everything it can to avoid showing real footage. Look at that smart glass video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE-_eg-CM_0), they move away from the game to the smart glass each time the ball is snapped (one time they show it from a distance). It is a month away and there are no competitors that might steal one of their ideas. They are getting lambasted the past few weeks over the quality of these ESPN videos and all EA has to respond with is "feel this" and "count all the blades of glass."
I guess the question is, "do you think Madden 25 on ps4 is worth ten dollars (if you purchased the ps3 version from best buy)?" I have the $60 credit but honestly at this point I'm not really sure if the grass and crowd is worth ten bucks. I can give them the benefit of the doubt on this release but the next Madden in August better be pretty darn impressive or else I would consider this series done.
bdoughty
10-15-2013, 05:38 AM
I guess the question is, "do you think Madden 25 on ps4 is worth ten dollars (if you purchased the ps3 version from best buy)?" I have the $60 credit but honestly at this point I'm not really sure if the grass and crowd is worth ten bucks. I can give them the benefit of the doubt on this release but the next Madden in August better be pretty darn impressive or else I would consider this series done.
$10 for high quality grass?
http://i.imgur.com/poDD2vU.gif
Thanks for re-posting guys. Not too much there but it wasn't as bad as OS made it out to be. Same game slightly better graphics. Now they really need to just show us 10 mins of REAL footage... it's less tan a month until release on ps4!!!!
I think that's the point. It's the same game with slightly better graphics when you look at the videos. For those that weren't happy with Madden it was disappointing. For some guys predicting Madden next gen would blow us away it was disappointing. For anyone trying to justify blowing $500 on next gen just to get the next gen Madden it's disappointing. At the very least the game won't take a step backwards which is what everyone was pissed off about this gen.
Did any TGT guys ever get a chance to see next gen NCAA Football?
JBHuskers
10-15-2013, 03:47 PM
I think that's the point. It's the same game with slightly better graphics when you look at the videos. For those that weren't happy with Madden it was disappointing. For some guys predicting Madden next gen would blow us away it was disappointing. For anyone trying to justify blowing $500 on next gen just to get the next gen Madden it's disappointing. At the very least the game won't take a step backwards which is what everyone was pissed off about this gen.
Did any TGT guys ever get a chance to see next gen NCAA Football?
No. I think they had armed guards wherever that was being developed. :D
Couldn't even get any off the records notes or words or anything from anyone on it.
JBHuskers
10-15-2013, 03:52 PM
I think if you enjoy Madden, it's not a big deal to spend another $10 to upgrade.
If you're buying a new console JUST for it, probably not the best idea.
I'm not getting the PS4 just to play Madden. I plan on Battlefield, FIFA, NBA, and maybe another title since Watch_Dogs is delayed. Then in 2014, Watch_Dogs, Destiny, just to name a few.
I thought the idea of MUT being able to be carried over was ho-hum news, but I've been playing the shit out of MUT this year. So I'm kind of excited for that to carry over and play on the next gen. Not sure if the collections reset or not. Kinda hope they do so I can re-do them, and I get some bonus packs for the ones I finished on the PS3.
bdoughty
10-15-2013, 04:43 PM
No. I think they had armed guards wherever that was being developed. :D
If only GTA V had been released earlier, you guys could have prepped a heist. The real question is which of you would be trevor?
JBHuskers
10-16-2013, 11:33 AM
The real question is which of you would be trevor?
:fdown:
Sent from my DROID RAZR Maxx since I'm too lazy to get to the CPU using Tapatalk 4
gschwendt
10-17-2013, 08:03 PM
Press Row Podcast (OS) interviewed Madden Gameplay Dev Victor Lugo. Lugo is primarily responsible for the physics aspect of Madden.
http://www.operationsports.com/news/671791/operation-sports-press-row-podcast-madden-nfl-25-next-gen-with-vic-lugo/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P72pnMUL5M
JBHuskers
10-18-2013, 03:07 PM
A TON of blogs too:
Pass Rush & Blocking - http://www.easports.com/madden-nfl/news-updates-gameplay/article/pass-blocking-rush
True Step - http://www.easports.com/madden-nfl/madden-nfl25/xboxone/features/true-step-player-motion
War in the Trenches - http://www.easports.com/madden-nfl/madden-nfl25/xboxone/features/war-in-the-trenches
Player Sense - http://www.easports.com/madden-nfl/madden-nfl25/xboxone/features/player-sense
This trailer looked better. I like the line animations although the overall graphics are not much better than current gen imo (at least when you look at it from a gameplay camera).
I honestly don't know what to believe. The marketing stuff and what I'm hearing/reading doesn't mix with what I'm seeing in some of these videos. They say we have TrueStep and yet I don't see a lot of fluid movements that look that realistic. I see a lot of old animations from current gen that I wish were re-done. At the end of the day I think this is a game that people will have to get their hands on to get a real impression.
jaymo76
10-18-2013, 10:36 PM
This trailer looked better. I like the line animations although the overall graphics are not much better than current gen imo (at least when you look at it from a gameplay camera).
I honestly don't know what to believe. The marketing stuff and what I'm hearing/reading doesn't mix with what I'm seeing in some of these videos. They say we have TrueStep and yet I don't see a lot of fluid movements that look that realistic. I see a lot of old animations from current gen that I wish were re-done. At the end of the day I think this is a game that people will have to get their hands on to get a real impression.
Very confusing... will the real Madden 25 on ps4 please stand up?!? I need to see what I just saw in this video in real, actual, ZOOMED out gameplay. Which one is real??????????????????????????????????
Kingpin32
10-20-2013, 01:01 PM
So here's a question that I think is gonna be asked a lot: If we haven't purchased Madden yet, should we get current gen or next gen? Also just a general question, have they discussed whether or not we'll be able to import NCAA draft classes to next gen?
So here's a question that I think is gonna be asked a lot: If we haven't purchased Madden yet, should we get current gen or next gen? Also just a general question, have they discussed whether or not we'll be able to import NCAA draft classes to next gen?
I don't think there will be a big difference between current and next gen this year. Next gen should be fully featured though but it does NOT have the ability to import draft classes. They were trying but it's not happening.
Will low Awr cost olineman to make wrong reads when targeting pre snap?
This year, physical ratings will have greater impact than intangible ratings up front.
Do holding penalties factor in these new line animations/interactions? Or are they randomly generated?
Holding animations will be slightly increased on Next-Gen.
Does oline Strength counter dline PMOV and Footwork counter FMOV?
Pass Block Rating (PBK) counters both.
what's biggest difference in next gen ?
The QB now must step up into the pocket rather than extend his drop which fundamentally changes the way Madden is played.
will D-lineman "win" more 1-1 battles against lesser rated O-linemen? Or will it be 50/50
Pass rush has been improved and ratings will have a heavy impact on 1v1 battles up front.
how do lineman make their calculations? Closest defender to ball carrier? Inside gap protection?
For pass blocking, O-Linemen calculate the location, speed, direction and angle of pass rushers to the QB.
what does impact blocking mean? And is it better than upgrading specifically run/pass blocking
Impact Blocking = Any block that occurs while both the blocker and his target are moving in the open field.
Will the QB now identify and say who the "Mike" is?
you will see either the C or QB point when identifying the mic, but you will not hear audio.
Will there be times where the o-line miss a assignment like on a delay LB Blitz or overloading one side
Yes, overload blitzes aren't as effective as they used to be but lineman will definitely miss assignments from time to time.
Does o-line block away from hole, so defender gets free if you run where you're not supposed to on runs like a dive outside?
In run blocking, OL will be more likely to block for the design of the play.
Does Madden next gen defese have true run fits and/or gap assignments?
They have gap assignments based on each play they run.
Will HB's pick up blitzes more often? Will lineman be able to report as eligible?
HB's are included in the pass protection. No, all formations in Madden are legal.
Is the snap count a factor in next gen? WIll you be able to draw the defense offsides?
Yup!
Does True Step affect every player or just the ball carrier?
Stay tuned for a Q&A on True Step in the future.
How are PMV/FMV used in calculating while rushing the passer? Does only get used in one play or both?
It's based on that players ratings, traits, and player type.
Will the blind side pass rusher (RDE) be able to consistently get pressure instead of how it is now where the LDE gets the most?
Yes, that's now balanced and ratings will determine pressure.
Will next gen stop the nano blitz?
Nano blitzes are less prevalent and w/ enhanced pass rush you won't need to nano based on the amount of organic pressure.
What determines the missed assignment rate? AWR or PBK or a combo of both?
Targeting is tied to the defense's movement, so physical ratings will naturally have a larger impact in such a dynamic atmosphere.
Will the secondary actually be able to keep up with WR's and play man defense decently?
Coverage has been improved and enhanced pass rush will make the defensive secondary's job easier.
Has blitzing been improved? Is cover 2 a usable scheme now with better pass rush?
Yes, you will feel more heat with blitzes, which also improved all coverages.
Can we adjust protections ourselves and not just slide protection? Can we single out an O lineman to focus on a guy or add help?
When you add a TE and HB to the protection scheme, they will determine targets as well as the offensive line.
Will a lineman break off of his double team to pick up a blitzing linebacker?
Yes, what we call sorting, due to our calculation power in gen 4, they are able to dynamically evaluate threats to the target.
Will certain pass rush animations only be available to players with higher rated PMV or FMV?
Ratings have a very high impact on pass rush animations.
Can you please change the penalty "Clipping" to "block in the back"?
That is a great suggestion and something that's already on our radar. Thanks
Best defense against Vernon Davis?
Nickel strong cover 1 robber but is susceptible to the TE Flag
Will fatigue be a factor? If defense is on the field for long stretches will it impact play?
Yes, when a defensive lineman is fatigued his ratings start to drop.
Will there be more moves for defensive lineman to use on next gen?
There is more defensive line moves and more they will be more effective at establishing a good pass rush.
How will lineman react to 1-3 man rushes? Too easy to get sacks when it's 5 o-lineman vs 1-3 rushers.
When blockers out number rushers you are going to see double teams when available.
http://www.operationsports.com/
I want to see someone get the game and have a 150 pound weak OT go against JJ Watt and see if he stonewalls him. That will tell me a lot if this new Ignite engine is really physics based or not.
I want to see someone get the game and have a 150 pound weak OT go against JJ Watt and see if he stonewalls him. That will tell me a lot if this new Ignite engine is really physics based or not.
The answer to your question is what are the 150 lb OTs ratings for Pass Block if its 99 yes. If its 40 probably only 4/5 of the time. :nod:
Yeah, I think we've all seen those old videos that demonstrated weight and size did nothing. The game was always purely ratings based. I could live with that but I expect more on the next gen.
jaymo76
10-22-2013, 08:00 PM
Didn't like the twitter answers re: penalties... something along the lines of "yes the game is programmed t acknowledge penalties..." translation... penalties will be the same as current gen... aka non-existent.
Remember when EA said the crowds in Next-gen Madden wouldn't be the same five people (or something along those lines):
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BX8EIYqCEAAEwVr.png:large
jaymo76
10-31-2013, 06:08 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYARY9-GJi0
Graphically it looks great but its 2 weeks out now and we still haven't seen much (if any) ACTUAL GAMEPLAY footage. GameFly'n this one prob to whore out for the easy :plat: and then back via USPS you go.
SCClassof93
10-31-2013, 06:50 PM
Graphically it looks great but its 2 weeks out now and we still haven't seen much (if any) ACTUAL GAMEPLAY footage. GameFly'n this one prob to whore out for the easy :plat: and then back via USPS you go.
Dude, that is the new shoe/sock cam :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5rupWAOvF0
I like the hand fighting and extra detail in the line animations but I still see some suction blocking. At 30 seconds there is a double team but it looks like the Jet DT has a fairly clear path to Brady. Why is he stuck instead of sliding to the gap and QB?
jaymo76
11-01-2013, 08:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5rupWAOvF0
Video's not too bad. Visually it looks great... except... where is the "living world?" The crowd with identical men all wearing #75... ??? Love that grass though... lol. Seriously though, the grass looks good... :D
gschwendt
11-02-2013, 04:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIcvvrTuzsE
jaymo76
11-02-2013, 06:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIcvvrTuzsE
While I appreciate the enthusiasm I struggle with his comments. Yes the game looks great... WHEN ZOOMED IN ON INSTANT REPLAY. But, show me what the game looks like during live gameplay!!! Zoomed in everyone will agree the game looks fantastic but that's not nor has it ever been the issue with madden.
While I appreciate the enthusiasm I struggle with his comments. Yes the game looks great... WHEN ZOOMED IN ON INSTANT REPLAY. But, show me what the game looks like during live gameplay!!! Zoomed in everyone will agree the game looks fantastic but that's not nor has it ever been the issue with madden.
I gotta secret for you: other than the cosmetic improvements its the same game. Shhhhhhhhhh...... :nod:
SCClassof93
11-03-2013, 05:48 PM
I gotta secret for you: other than the cosmetic improvements its the same game. Shhhhhhhhhh...... :nod:
Yeah, I no longer have any confidence in this company to provide me with a entertaining and stable product for my $$$.
steelerfan
11-03-2013, 06:53 PM
Yeah, I no longer have any confidence in this company to provide me with a entertaining and stable product for my $$$.
You? Maybe not. Me? Yes. FIFA is fantastic and NHL is solid.
jaymo76
11-03-2013, 11:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id-mobEqBEI
Another clip of "London Bridges"...
JBHuskers
11-04-2013, 12:34 PM
I gotta secret for you: other than the cosmetic improvements its the same game. Shhhhhhhhhh...... :nod:
Honestly, there shouldn't have been any expectations otherwise of it being the same game. It's Madden NFL 25 for a different system, not Madden 15.
I OU a Beatn
11-04-2013, 01:31 PM
Honestly, there shouldn't have been any expectations otherwise of it being the same game. It's Madden NFL 25 for a different system, not Madden 15.
Normally I'd agree, but when the defense is as broke dick as it is this year, something needs to be done. I'm not saying it isn't, but if it isn't somewhat improved, I'm going to be massively disappointed.
JBHuskers
11-04-2013, 01:45 PM
Normally I'd agree, but when the defense is as broke dick as it is this year, something needs to be done. I'm not saying it isn't, but if it isn't somewhat improved, I'm going to be massively disappointed.
Refinements, I agree with. A completely different game is pretty unreasonable. One would hope this has some post-release support with it since the current gens were abandoned.
I OU a Beatn
11-04-2013, 02:01 PM
Refinements, I agree with. A completely different game is pretty unreasonable. One would hope this has some post-release support with it since the current gens were abandoned.
Yeah, I agree with that. I definitely don't expect anything major. Honestly, with as bad as the first iterations were on this current gen of consoles, I'll be happy with anything. The fact that my Ultimate Team transfers over and we'll more than likely be getting more support is enough for me to justify the purchase.
JBHuskers
11-04-2013, 02:07 PM
Yeah, I agree with that. I definitely don't expect anything major. Honestly, with as bad as the first iterations were on this current gen of consoles, I'll be happy with anything. The fact that my Ultimate Team transfers over and we'll more than likely be getting more support is enough for me to justify the purchase.
I can't believe how much MUT has sucked me in unlike years past where it would just be a here and there.
JBHuskers
11-07-2013, 04:04 PM
Check out the living worlds of Madden on the next gen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50nQJQdq_NM&feature=em-uploademail
GatorfanStovy
11-07-2013, 04:20 PM
looks great on the trailer. We will see once we all get the next gen consoles here soon. I bet everyone is disappointed in some way or another it won't be perfect.
jaymo76
11-12-2013, 06:43 PM
Just picked up my copy of Madden 25 on the PS4. Good thing I brought along the Best Buy pre-order info... nobody knew about it... $10 for a new game is worth it.
psusnoop
11-12-2013, 08:28 PM
You? Maybe not. Me? Yes. FIFA is fantastic and NHL is solid.
Completely agree, big fan of NHL and FIFA. I still get my monies worth out of NCAA as well but again that is just me.
KCClassic7807
11-13-2013, 01:54 PM
You? Maybe not. Me? Yes. FIFA is fantastic and NHL is solid.
Cannot disagree with this one.. and I am not even a NHL or FIFA type guy I do own both of them, and they are great. Not to mention a title like Battlefield which is also an EA Title I enjoy. Some people my not like some of the stuff EA does but as a WHOLE company you cannot disagree with their result. Mostly ALL the title they put out are pick up and plays (which is how they want it) All game game graphically look good. They can possible target EVERY person in your family in terms of the games released (Sports, Racing, Shooters, Simulations - (The Sims) ) Say what you want about the way they do things but OVERALL every game they put out is average at WORSE, Which is saying something.
KCClassic7807
11-13-2013, 02:12 PM
I can't believe how much MUT has sucked me in unlike years past where it would just be a here and there.
Speaking of Ultimate Team I would like your opinion(s) about something. In general, how do you feel about people being able to use actually money to purchase packs? Do you like it, encourage it, think it needs to be removed Don't care because it is their money and they can spend it as they choose???
Also, my second question is do think you should have to be in ultimate team to earn points to use toward your ultimate team? I know NBA 2K has to where every game mode allows you to earn coins that can eventually be put toward your My Team (Ultimate teams of 2K)
Also I want to say in Madden 11 You could earn points outside of Ultimate Team, and eventually use them in the mode. I do really enjoy playing Ultimate Team, but I do not like playing inside of Ultimate Team to earn the point to make my team better. I would like to use other modes, and use the coins earn for my UT what is everyones take on it??
JBHuskers
11-13-2013, 02:30 PM
I spend money on packs, so I don't mind it.
I think everything in Madden should give you coins towards Ultimate Team. NHL works this way.
http://www.twitch.tv/iprocreate watch Madden PS4 now. It looks a LOT like the PS3 version.
jaymo76
11-13-2013, 04:10 PM
http://www.twitch.tv/iprocreate watch Madden PS4 now. It looks a LOT like the PS3 version.
Yeah pretty much what I thought. However the key is playing it to see if it "feels" different. It is dissapointing though to see NBA 2k14 as compared to Madden next gen. Oh the possibilities...
Exclusive license I believe ends next year. IF I were the NFL it doesn't make any sense to have an exclusive rights deal with EA unless EA forks out MAJOR $ (to the point where EA basically pays for 2-3 licensing rights + a premium for being exclusive).
bdoughty
11-13-2013, 06:40 PM
Watched a few twitch videos of the actual game. Can see why there are no reviews yet and why there was little to no gameplay footage.
Exclusive license I believe ends next year. IF I were the NFL it doesn't make any sense to have an exclusive rights deal with EA unless EA forks out MAJOR $ (to the point where EA basically pays for 2-3 licensing rights + a premium for being exclusive).
What makes you think they aren't paying major money? I think EA pays a big premium already. Furthermore, I don't think the NFL has a ton of leverage here. They squeezed out any competition. Who on earth could have a next gen football game ready to go if EA balks at paying what they want? EA could play hardball with them because the NFL would have no competitors ready for at least two years (it would take at least two years to get a football game off the ground). The NFL isn't dumb though. I would have to imagine they would negotiate those rights at least a year in advance to make sure they had the potential of giving the license to 2K to keep the money high.
jaymo76
11-13-2013, 11:44 PM
Watching a few clips tonight on Twitch (which fyi I registered for... pretty cool programme...) I am really shocked as to the end result of Madden. I know it was a port but honestly I could not tell the difference between ps3 and ps4. The graphics, commentary, gameplay, intros... pretty much everything were identical. If the MADDEN TEAM worked on this for TWO YEARS, what did they do in that time? I'm not being mean. I honestly want to know what they did because in the clips outside of a cameraman moving and a new qb stat screen during the pause menu there is nothing that makes this look next gen.
What happened to the new commentary, the new foot planting, the new line interaction, the new pocket??? It's just not there in these videos.
bdoughty
11-14-2013, 01:08 AM
Watching a few clips tonight on Twitch (which fyi I registered for... pretty cool programme...) I am really shocked as to the end result of Madden. I know it was a port but honestly I could not tell the difference between ps3 and ps4. The graphics, commentary, gameplay, intros... pretty much everything were identical. If the MADDEN TEAM worked on this for TWO YEARS, what did they do in that time? I'm not being mean. I honestly want to know what they did because in the clips outside of a cameraman moving and a new qb stat screen during the pause menu there is nothing that makes this look next gen.
What happened to the new commentary, the new foot planting, the new line interaction, the new pocket??? It's just not there in these videos.
The file size of the game is enough to tell you how much work they put into the game.
Next gen sideline. Chinstraps in, facemasks, wait for PS5.
http://i.imgur.com/teAjQrZ.png
The file size of the game is enough to tell you how much work they put into the game.
Next gen sideline. Chinstraps in, facemasks, wait for PS5.
I was stunned to see that Madden is only 12 GB while NBA 2K is 43 GB on next gen.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/691087-playstation-4/67775353
bdoughty
11-14-2013, 05:40 AM
I was stunned to see that Madden is only 12 GB while NBA 2K is 43 GB on next gen.
Yeah I posted those numbers in a few threads the past few days. All of EA Sports games are very low and as you can see from the image I posted, that is a prime example. It is like the regurgitated some of those assets for the in game sidelines. I honestly thought that the least they could do was get rid of the deformed players on the sidelines for next gen.
SCClassof93
11-14-2013, 09:26 AM
The file size of the game is enough to tell you how much work they put into the game.
Next gen sideline. Chinstraps in, facemasks, wait for PS5.
Yeah, looks like my sports fix will come from 2k.
KCClassic7807
11-14-2013, 10:19 AM
Yeah, looks like my sports fix will come from 2k.
I think that is the majority of people, and their way of thinking. I am unsure on what console you are getting (If ps4) or if you baseball fan, but 2k and MLB The Show will be many people's fixes for sports games. In my opinion.
SCClassof93
11-14-2013, 10:24 AM
I think that is the majority of people, and their way of thinking. I am unsure on what console you are getting (If ps4) or if you baseball fan, but 2k and MLB The Show will be many people's fixes for sports games. In my opinion.
PS4 it is.............MLB only interests me slightly more than fifa/nhl :zzz::D,
GatorfanStovy
11-14-2013, 11:09 AM
I'm glad MLB 14 the show will still hit ps3 this year. Won't be going ps4 . I'll be the lone ranger goign X1 here.
bdoughty
11-14-2013, 03:34 PM
From the Kotaku review of the PS4.
We've checked out some multiplatform games like Assassin's Creed IV and Skylanders: Swap Force and marveled at their graphics. We've popped Madden in and wondered if we were looking at a PS3 game.
WolverineJay
11-14-2013, 04:09 PM
Watching a few clips tonight on Twitch (which fyi I registered for... pretty cool programme...) I am really shocked as to the end result of Madden. I know it was a port but honestly I could not tell the difference between ps3 and ps4. The graphics, commentary, gameplay, intros... pretty much everything were identical. If the MADDEN TEAM worked on this for TWO YEARS, what did they do in that time? I'm not being mean. I honestly want to know what they did because in the clips outside of a cameraman moving and a new qb stat screen during the pause menu there is nothing that makes this look next gen.
What happened to the new commentary, the new foot planting, the new line interaction, the new pocket??? It's just not there in these videos.
Yeah I saw the Twitch feeds yesterday and really thought it looked like what I have been playing on my PS3, like identical to the PS3. On other sites I see people asking the same question, "What did the Madden 25 next gen team due for 2 years?". Let's face it Madden 25 on the PS4 looks nothing like the E3 videos with the supposed actual in-game footage. It seems around the Madden community, people are resting all their hopes on Looman and that all the quirks, glitches, bugs, and non-sense has been fixed in CFM (Auto subs, Pathetic draft classes, and tons of freezing to name just a few). I mean if the CFM experience is exactly the same as current gen what did Looman do since July when the game went gold. His draft classes in M25 are horrible, in my draft there were 26 WR's and 13 of them had a Speed grade of C (66-76), and WR's can't position change so your league is literally cluttered with pathetically slow 72 SPD, 68 AGI, 70 ACC WR's (same goes for CB's, MLB's, and S's). If commentary, playcalling, and off the field AI within CFM are exactly the same as it appears the gameplay is from the live feeds I saw yesterday then what have they been doing all this time? My guess porting M25 to next gen and spending all their time working on the next Madden release because they know this edition was all about cashing in on the launch.
I don't get Looman sometimes. Everyone raved about HC09 and while I think he's done some really good things with Connected Franchise I don't get how some options were removed or don't work well.
bdoughty
11-14-2013, 11:17 PM
Found at OS.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRWYwyUFm5w&feature=c4-overview&list=UUU4_2w3gwEcHLrkFZ3txgjQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvS1JZq8nOs&feature=share&list=UUU4_2w3gwEcHLrkFZ3txgjQ
GatorfanStovy
11-15-2013, 12:22 AM
Graphic wise it is hard tell from either clip. but looks the same as previous gen. hope i'm wrong when people start playing. But again not really impressive graphically.
game play- I saw some interesting cut movements and good defense addition. However, I couldn't really get a good feel for it. I notice the human player dropped back 20 yards on a post route, that game play never changes :fp: looks like it will happen online again over and over. The running animations do look a lot better. I'm not sure on the passing stuff but they looked the same IMO. At 10:04 I also notice the QB for sf does it again :fp: really come on.
jaymo76
11-15-2013, 12:38 AM
Graphic wise it is hard tell from either clip. but looks the same as previous gen. hope i'm wrong when people start playing. But again not really impressive graphically.
game play- I saw some interesting cut movements and good defense addition. However, I couldn't really get a good feel for it. I notice the human player dropped back 20 yards on a post route, that game play never changes :fp: looks like it will happen online again over and over. The running animations do look a lot better. I'm not sure on the passing stuff but they looked the same IMO. At 10:04 I also notice the QB for sf does it again :fp: really come on.
Yup all of the twitch gamelay leads me to believe this game will look, play and feel 99% like madden 25 on ps3.
jaymo76
11-15-2013, 12:46 AM
Apparently the touch pad is used to call timeouts and move players in motion. That should be interesting.
Kingpin32
11-15-2013, 02:11 AM
Unless people already picked their games up, no one tonight bought Madden at my Gamestop. Again, most may have already picked it up prior to launch night, but still, it seemed like no one was looking forward to this.
bdoughty
11-15-2013, 06:04 AM
IGN with the first review I have seen.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/11/15/madden-nfl-25-xbox-one-and-playstation-4-review
7.6
Good
Next-gen graphics only go so far – changes to Madden 25's play make control tougher, though it's still good football.
+Great atmosphere
+Smarter player AI
+Fundamentally good football
– Irritating controls
– Underwhelming graphics
Quote you will not see on the back of the box:
Right now, if I’ve got to pick between the next-gen version and the current-gen one? I’d rather play Madden 25 on an Xbox 360 or a PlayStation 3.
Quote to remind you this is an IGN Review
At times it felt like Madden might be getting too realistic for it’s own good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2hN8uCKYMM
skipwondah33
11-15-2013, 08:13 AM
Quote to remind you this is an IGN ReviewThis is what they have to balance between
Fun and realism
If they made the pass rush, pocket to standard in real life people would complain about not having enough time in the pocket. Not sure of the average time a QB has to get rid of the ball but pretty sure it's 3 seconds or less.
Wish they somehow could make 2 different versions of the game.
GatorfanStovy
11-15-2013, 10:16 AM
Some are being shocked at how the game is being played etc from OS . So it be worth it to wait until I get the x1 . Also the game it self seems to run smoother and plays better and lighting also as well as the sky turning dark in some night games. Just my read from their post there. some like some don't more like then not though. Very nice to see.
jaymo76
11-15-2013, 11:48 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2hN8uCKYMM
My gosh... this guy really doesn't get it. It's too realistic??? Seriously??? ... wow... seriously???
:fp:
GatorfanStovy
11-15-2013, 04:29 PM
Yea i'm staying away from freaking Madden reviews from IGN they just suck and have no idea on how review a good football game it's stupid. Just don't even listen.
KCClassic7807
11-15-2013, 05:57 PM
My gosh... this guy really doesn't get it. It's too realistic??? Seriously??? ... wow... seriously???
:fp:
You know what is worse.. THESE ARE SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT EA LISTEN TO AND CATER TOO!!!! Why do they have people review games from a casual point of view? How long do they usually do not play the game for? Until football season is over, if that?? I'm sorry but I do not want to run swerve my way to the endzone that just is not fun or realistic for me...
I really do respect this guys honest opinion about how he feels about the game, and I am glad he spoke from a casuals point of view... but to the people who love and enjoy the sport of football, and want a simulation.. you cannot take what he is saying serious.... They need to get people who actually know a thing or two about these games, and want them played correctly to review them. It really make companies fix problems that do not need to be fixed, and not fix the they do need to be touched up.
Not saying that Madden next gen is perfect, but come on running is too real??? Really??
JBHuskers
11-17-2013, 02:17 PM
Going to live stream some PS4 Ultimate Team in a few.
jaymo76
11-17-2013, 02:20 PM
Anyway we could move and merge this thread into the next gen category? It would be easier to follow IMO rather than having two threads on te same topic.
xMrHitStickx904
11-17-2013, 07:09 PM
Guys, don't listen to IGN about that. They give horrid football game reviews. Personally I've played Madden on the PS4, and I want nothing to do with the last gen version of it anymore.
I OU a Beatn
11-17-2013, 08:25 PM
Guys, don't listen to IGN about that. They give horrid football game reviews. Personally I've played Madden on the PS4, and I want nothing to do with the last gen version of it anymore.
That's what I said in the other thread. Defense is vastly improved. I'm not going back to the past gen version, I can guarantee you that.
skipwondah33
11-18-2013, 09:10 AM
Guys, don't listen to IGN about that. They give horrid football game reviews. Personally I've played Madden on the PS4, and I want nothing to do with the last gen version of it anymore.
That's what I said in the other thread. Defense is vastly improved. I'm not going back to the past gen version, I can guarantee you that.
I have heard both of these from friends of mine who have it for current gen and next gen, who play in leagues of mine.
They say Defense is much improved in comparison to the PS3 version. Pursuit angles, Zone coverage, run game balanced and "superman tackles" not as frequent.
Again I don't pay much attention to reviews anyway.
Deuce
11-18-2013, 09:50 AM
So far this is my favorite Madden in a long time. I know it's early and I'm sure flaws will start to show up but it feels great. I don't really know how to describe it but I love the feel of the game. Right I'm playing on default all pro and it's giving me great games. We'll see as I play more but so far so good!
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jaymo76
11-23-2013, 01:31 PM
So far this is my favorite Madden in a long time. I know it's early and I'm sure flaws will start to show up but it feels great. I don't really know how to describe it but I love the feel of the game. Right I'm playing on default all pro and it's giving me great games. We'll see as I play more but so far so good!
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I just love the visuals of this game. TB versus Minny in heavy rain. I didn't realize I took a screen shot of it and I saw it last night. All I can say is wow! Visuals are phenomenal.
GatorfanStovy
11-23-2013, 08:39 PM
I was able to get about 5 minutes and 2 drives on Madden 25 for the Xbox one today at best buy. loved it from the get go! I could really tell the running has been improved. The passing not to sure yet. PA was nice. I could also tell the grapics were pretty smooth.
jaymo76
11-24-2013, 07:46 PM
I was able to get about 5 minutes and 2 drives on Madden 25 for the Xbox one today at best buy. loved it from the get go! I could really tell the running has been improved. The passing not to sure yet. PA was nice. I could also tell the grapics were pretty smooth.
I believe that ratings matter a lot more now. Slow, lumbering rb's are late with their cuts and often miss the hole while speed backs are up the field and into the open very quickly. Now if we could just get rid of the DE dive on runs to the outside...
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