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steelerfan
07-14-2012, 07:37 PM
I will update this post with changes that I make throughout the year.

Settings - House Rules (Game Difficulty & Penalties)

Gameplay Options SkillHeisman InjuriesOn FatigueOn Quarter Length9 Minutes Play ClockOn Coaching TipsOff Game SpeedNormal Player Min Speed Threshold20 Home Field Advantage EffectsOn Ice the KickerOn Game Rules Offsides70 False Start80 Holding54 Facemask57 Offensive Pass Interference100 Defensive Pass Interference100 KR/PR Interference100 Clipping52 Intentional Grounding100 Roughing the Passer54 Roughing the Kicker100 Custom AI USER QB Accuracy5 Pass Blocking50 WR Catching50 RB Ability50 Run Blocking50 Pass Coverage50 Pass Rush20 Interceptions30 Rush Defense40 Tackling50 FG Power40 FG Accuracy45 Punt Power45 Punt Accuracy50 Kickoff Power50 CPU QB Accuracy20 Pass Blocking50 WR Catching50 RB Ability50 Run Blocking50 Pass Coverage65 Pass Rush40 Interceptions25 Rush Defense85 Tackling50 FG Power45 FG Accuracy40 Punt Power55 Punt Accuracy75 Kickoff Power50

Settings - Strategy (Set Audibles & Auto-Subs)

Auto-Subs OFFENSE QB Sub Out40 QB Sub In45 RB Sub Out80 RB Sub In85 WR Sub Out80 WR Sub In85 FB/TE Sub Out80 FB/TE Sub In85 OL Sub Out40 OL Sub In45 DEFENSE DT Sub Out80 DT Sub In85 DE Sub Out80 DE Sub In85 LB Sub Out50 LB Sub In55 CB Sub Out50 CB Sub In55 S Sub Out50 S Sub In55

steelerfan
07-14-2012, 07:44 PM
I've made a couple changes since my last game so I haven't even played with these yet.

Keep in mind that, as of now, these are still a WIP. Last year I had an early copy of the game and I had a couple of weeks to work on these before the game launched. This year I didn't have an early copy so it's going to take some time to iron these out, particularly since I jumped to Heisman.

For the guys that I already gave sliders to, these are slightly different than what you have.

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steelerfan
07-15-2012, 12:37 AM
I started a Dynasty to give me something to do while I work on these sliders. I'm using Houston and I won my opener over Texas State, 41-12.

Here's a look at the numbers:

Stat: TSU/UH
First Downs: 20/26
Total Offense: 350/453
Rush-Yds-TD: 49-234-2/20-111-0
Comp-Att-TD: 12-21-0/36-47-5
Passing: 116/342
3rd Downs: 7-14/6-11
4th Downs: 0-1/0-0
2-pt: 0-0
RZ-TD-FG: 4-2-0/7-4-2
Turnovers: 2/3
Fumbles Lost: 1/0
Intercepted: 1/3
Penalties: 7-56/4-40
TOP: 17:03/18:57
Sacked: 7/2

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CLW
07-15-2012, 10:02 AM
These are better and I think are REALLY close. I'm a little concerned about the CPU Pass Protection though.

Just ran a rematch to see how the sliders did. The game had a similar result (as it should IMHO) but the game felt MUCH better and I didn't rely on the HUGE play to get the W.

I believe you CAN run the ball now if you have a superior O-line if you are just patient and wait for the blocks to develop as I saw much fewer missed assignments and some actual pancakes (i was seeing very few pancakes before the bump up in blocking).


http://youtu.be/fl7pAGIUJwo?hd=1

souljahbill
07-15-2012, 10:15 AM
Wow! 10 sacks?

CLW
07-15-2012, 10:25 AM
Wow! 10 sacks?

Yeah 4-5 of them where of the slip screen variety where I snuffed it out and the CPU/QB just drops back forever until he is eventually caught. I'm going to run a game real quick where I do not blitz the entire game and the teams are roughly even to see what the #s look like.

steelerfan
07-15-2012, 10:40 AM
Yeah. I played another game last night and I had 11 sacks (18 in 2 games). The cpu also went 27-30 passing against me. Has anyone felt that the cpu passing is too strong? That's the first game I thought that about, just wanted to get some other opinions.

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steelerfan
07-15-2012, 11:36 AM
Game 2 of my Dynasty. Louisiana Tech 44, Houston 27.

Stat: LTU/UH

First Downs: 16/13
Total Offense: 420/301
Rush-Yds-TD: 34-7-1/19-38-0
Comp-Att-TD: 27-30-4/26-43-3
Passing Yds: 413/263
3rd Downs: 2-11/4-14
4th Downs: 0-1/0-1
2pt: 0-0/0-0
RZ-TD-FG: 5-2-3/3-2-1
TO: 0/1
Fumbles Lost: 0/0
Intercepted: 0/1
Penalties: 3-20/6-76
TOP: 17:07/18:53
Sacked: 11/4

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steelerfan
07-15-2012, 11:46 AM
I made 3 changes. User Pass Rush lowered to 25. User Run Defense raised to 25. CPU Pass Accuracy lowered to 30.

Thanks for the input CLW.

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beartide06
07-15-2012, 12:25 PM
I'll give these a go when I get home steelerfan. Does the speed threshold feel pretty good to you?

steelerfan
07-15-2012, 12:29 PM
I'll give these a go when I get home steelerfan. Does the speed threshold feel pretty good to you?

That's something that I'd like some more opinion on. Last year I played with it at 30 and it seemed okay. I'm not seeing too many guys being run down from behind, but input is key here.

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steelerfan
07-15-2012, 01:58 PM
I lost at UCLA, 34-28. I'm considering lowering CPU Pass Accuracy some more and/or raising User Pass Coverage. I'm also still considering some changes to decrease the number of sacks.

The numbers:

Stat: UH/UCLA

First Downs: 31/14
Total Offense: 565/408
R-Y-T: 23-54-0/42-186-2
C-A-T: 40-68-4/14-17-2
Passing Yards: 511/222
3rd Downs: 10-17/7-14
4th Downs: 0-1/0-0
2pt: 0-0/0-0
R-T-F: 4-1-0/4-2-2
TO: 3/0
FL: 1/0
Int: 2/0
Penalties: 3-26/4-21
TOP: 19:44/16:16
Sacked: 5/4

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Marlowe
07-15-2012, 04:02 PM
I made 3 changes. User Pass Rush lowered to 25. User Run Defense raised to 25. CPU Pass Accuracy lowered to 30.

Thanks for the input CLW.

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These were before you made these changes:

http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/forums/showthread.php?4849-The-Definitive-Guide-To-The-Run-amp-Shoot&p=152402&viewfull=1#post152402

RnS Offense so they might be skewed.

CLW
07-15-2012, 04:15 PM
I'd drop User and HUM Pass accuracy down 2 notches at least (I'm personally thinking 5/15 is probably pretty close). I just finished a game :UTSA: (me) @ :La_Tech: (CPU) and I think there was nearly 800 yards passing in the game. Might also want to bump of the pass coverage a notch each.

EDIT: I'd also bump up CPU Rush D to 95

Also I'm thinking maybe both HUM and CPU tackling needs to be lowered a bit b/c I'm not seeing many missed tackles (other than me overpursuing the guy but when I hit him the guy goes down)

steelerfan
07-15-2012, 05:25 PM
I made a few changes. User QBA lowered to 15, WRC to 55, Pass Rush to 20. User Pass Coverage raised to 70, INT to 30.

CPU QBA lowered to 15, WRC to 55, Run Blocking to 50, and Pass Rush to 45.

I'm going to give these a couple games before I make any other changes.

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CLW
07-15-2012, 07:14 PM
I made a few changes. User QBA lowered to 15, WRC to 55, Pass Rush to 20. User Pass Coverage raised to 70, INT to 30.

CPU QBA lowered to 15, WRC to 55, Run Blocking to 50, and Pass Rush to 45.

I'm going to give these a couple games before I make any other changes.

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Hey man I've done some work on your sliders and think I'm pretty close. Several "tweaks" here and there. Want me to just post them or PM them to you?

steelerfan
07-15-2012, 08:14 PM
Hey man I've done some work on your sliders and think I'm pretty close. Several "tweaks" here and there. Want me to just post them or PM them to you?

How many games have you played with them?

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souljahbill
07-15-2012, 08:31 PM
Are these still AA or are these Heisman sliders now?

CLW
07-15-2012, 09:00 PM
How many games have you played with them?

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4 now. The only "issue" is the stupid CPU QB with its screens and then scrambling around right into sacks which is causing higher than should be sack totals but I don't think there is anyway to fix that.

My only question is how many plays from scrimmage should we be getting approx? Feels like I'm getting a few too many with 9 min qtrs and thinking about going down to 8 which "should" give me games where the winning score will probably be in the high 20s low 30s when the teams are evenly matched.

steelerfan
07-15-2012, 09:41 PM
Are these still AA or are these Heisman sliders now?

I'm trying Heisman right now.

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jaymo76
07-15-2012, 10:01 PM
I find 8 min quarters is working well for me each game. The THRESHOLD is still an issue though. I am back to 50 because it just seems there are too many big passing plays when it's below 35. Last year 30 felt great but I'm just not feeling it for NCAA 13.

WolverineJay
07-16-2012, 02:10 PM
Regarding the penalty sliders, I see you have Clipping at 52 and Roughing the Passer at 54. I have never had one Roughing the Passer called at anything below 55, and I have Clipping at 100 but still haven't had one called in my 8 or so games played. I only get called for1 penalty every game and that's Holding (mine is set at 57), but the CPU gets called for offsides, false start, and holding. Really wish that they would have a few specific animations for each penalty otherwise why bother putting them in the game at all.

CLW
07-16-2012, 04:59 PM
I find 8 min quarters is working well for me each game. The THRESHOLD is still an issue though. I am back to 50 because it just seems there are too many big passing plays when it's below 35. Last year 30 felt great but I'm just not feeling it for NCAA 13.


ODD I wasn't seeing enough separation so I moved the Threshold down to like 20.

Steeler I've played several games now with the set of yours that I "tweaked" and I'm pretty happy with the results. I think I'm going to keep rolling with these and get started on my dynasty but let me know if you want me to PM them to you or just post them but as always I appreciate your work and I'll keep checking in to see your progress.

steelerfan
07-16-2012, 06:09 PM
Send them my way, CLW. I'll give them a shot and see if they work out for me too. :up:

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Koach Vonner
07-17-2012, 10:57 AM
How come the sliders on the front page come up all weird looking? Distorted?

steelerfan
07-17-2012, 12:04 PM
How come the sliders on the front page come up all weird looking? Distorted?

What do you mean? They look fine to me. Are you having trouble viewing any other tables?

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CLW
07-17-2012, 12:35 PM
Send them my way, CLW. I'll give them a shot and see if they work out for me too. :up:

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I'll PM them to you tonight.

steelerfan
07-17-2012, 12:43 PM
I'll PM them to you tonight.

Thanks, buddy.

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psusnoop
07-17-2012, 05:50 PM
I'll PM them to you tonight.

Nice work CLW and :sf:, much appreciated. I haven't had the time I had last year to help with these so a huge thanks to all involved!!!

CLW
07-17-2012, 07:28 PM
Thanks, buddy.

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PM sent. I'm still debating on the # of plays right now at 9 minutes I'm getting between 130-140 plays from scrimmage. I'm thinking that might be a touch too high so 8 minutes may be the way to go (at least with the set I am currently using). Steeler let me know your thoughts obviously the larger sample size the better.

steelerfan
07-17-2012, 08:22 PM
PM sent. I'm still debating on the # of plays right now at 9 minutes I'm getting between 130-140 plays from scrimmage. I'm thinking that might be a touch too high so 8 minutes may be the way to go (at least with the set I am currently using). Steeler let me know your thoughts obviously the larger sample size the better.

Will do.

I think that snap count is okay, depending on the teams and the types of offenses, teams will frequently exceed 140 snaps between them.

Here's the box score from last years C-USA title game. 171 snaps.

http://content.usatoday.com/sportsdata/football/ncaaf/game/SouthernMiss_Houston/2011/12/03#box-score


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CLW
07-19-2012, 12:10 PM
Will do.

I think that snap count is okay, depending on the teams and the types of offenses, teams will frequently exceed 140 snaps between them.

Here's the box score from last years C-USA title game. 171 snaps.

http://content.usatoday.com/sportsdata/football/ncaaf/game/SouthernMiss_Houston/2011/12/03#box-score


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Cool had a chance yet to give my tweaks a test drive?

steelerfan
07-19-2012, 09:09 PM
Cool had a chance yet to give my tweaks a test drive?

No, sorry. I haven't played NCAA in a few nights, but I'm firing it up now. I'll give them a shot right away.

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steelerfan
07-19-2012, 11:49 PM
I tried out the tweaks, CLW. Overall, not bad. I'll have to play some more games, but I liked the balance.

I won, 31-14 at South Carolina, with Virginia Tech. The game was closer than that as I got handed a couple of 4th quarter scores. The cpu was only 9/23 passing, but that needs more testing, of course.

I want to play more to make sure that I don't always win by 3 scores against opponents that are equal to, or better than, myself. I enjoyed the feel of the passing game, but want to make sure the cpu isn't n nuetered.

Good work, buddy. I'll play more and let you know.

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CLW
07-20-2012, 09:29 AM
I tried out the tweaks, CLW. Overall, not bad. I'll have to play some more games, but I liked the balance.

I won, 31-14 at South Carolina, with Virginia Tech. The game was closer than that as I got handed a couple of 4th quarter scores. The cpu was only 9/23 passing, but that needs more testing, of course.

I want to play more to make sure that I don't always win by 3 scores against opponents that are equal to, or better than, myself. I enjoyed the feel of the passing game, but want to make sure the cpu isn't n nuetered.

Good work, buddy. I'll play more and let you know.

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Yeah the passing #s I have seen go from similar to what you saw to 50-60% depending on the game. It might need a CPU bump up in CPU accuracy. Although in my games allot of the incompletes are drops. Unfortunately, that appears to be the most effective way to lower the completion %.

steelerfan
07-20-2012, 12:15 PM
Yeah the passing #s I have seen go from similar to what you saw to 50-60% depending on the game. It might need a CPU bump up in CPU accuracy. Although in my games allot of the incompletes are drops. Unfortunately, that appears to be the most effective way to lower the completion %.

There was only 1 drop in my game and that was by the cpu TE.

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jaymo76
07-20-2012, 02:43 PM
Even at roughing the QB at 54, this morning I played a game and Houston (cpu) had NINE roughing the passer calls against me. I may need to lower it.

steelerfan
07-20-2012, 04:44 PM
Even at roughing the QB at 54, this morning I played a game and Houston (cpu) had NINE roughing the passer calls against me. I may need to lower it.

God damn! When he throws it, let up, lol.

I've seen maybe 2 or 3 in all the games I've played. Total.

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CLW
07-20-2012, 04:47 PM
God damn! When he throws it, let up, lol.

I've seen maybe 2 or 3 in all the games I've played. Total.

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NO! The other team's QB must go down and he must go down HARD!

I haven't seen one of those penalties in years in this game.

jaymo76
07-22-2012, 01:19 PM
I wish there was a way sliders in NCAA could impact injuries more. Currently in season two I have only had three major injuries. I really want an injury slider added to this game.

texacotea
07-24-2012, 07:05 AM
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d34/texacotea/dynasty.jpg

QB and RB stats from my week 1 offline/OD game. Im South Carolina.

baseballplyrmvp
07-25-2012, 11:23 PM
:sf: since we're using these in this site's 360 od, i decided to test these out in an offline game vs the cpu. pretty good set, imo....

i think the user and cpu qb accuracy could even more. i ran a hurry up offense, going as fast as i possibly could with ASU, yet michael eubank (who has an 80 throw accuracy) was 44 of 56, and the virginia qb (84 accuracy) was 25-32. those were the only stats that i took down, but i know that i easily could have completed 3-4 of those 12 incompletions i had (kinda panicked on the sticks).

steelerfan
07-25-2012, 11:29 PM
:sf: since we're using these in this site's 360 od, i decided to test these out in an offline game vs the cpu. pretty good set, imo....

i think the user and cpu qb accuracy could even more. i ran a hurry up offense, going as fast as i possibly could with ASU, yet michael eubank (who has an 80 throw accuracy) was 44 of 56, and the virginia qb (84 accuracy) was 25-32. those were the only stats that i took down, but i know that i easily could have completed 3-4 of those 12 incompletions i had (kinda panicked on the sticks).

Thanks, buddy. I haven't played the game much in a week or so and I haven't updated these sliders to reflect what I'm currently using. That said, I'll gladly take any feedback and stats you have.

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jaymo76
07-26-2012, 02:05 PM
Thanks, buddy. I haven't played the game much in a week or so and I haven't updated these sliders to reflect what I'm currently using. That said, I'll gladly take any feedback and stats you have.

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Steeler, we need to get you passionate about NCAA football again. You need to put down the FIFA 12 for a week and walk away... lol :D

steelerfan
07-26-2012, 03:04 PM
Steeler, we need to get you passionate about NCAA football again. You need to put down the FIFA 12 for a week and walk away... lol :D

I know! It's tough! I've had my daughter all month and all she wants to do is play GTA IV when my PS3 is on, lol. Add to that, the TGT FIFA League, and my own desire to keep my Career Mode going with FIFA, and my NCAA time has been VERY limited.

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SmoothPancakes
07-26-2012, 06:11 PM
I know! It's tough! I've had my daughter all month and all she wants to do is play GTA IV when my PS3 is on, lol. Add to that, the TGT FIFA League, and my own desire to keep my Career Mode going with FIFA, and my NCAA time has been VERY limited.

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That's gonna be the thing for me. The day comes that I pretty much stop buying or playing NCAA, it's not going to be because of bugs or glitches. It's gonna be because of other games. FIFA, NHL, NBA 2K, as well as side games like Ghost Recon, Halo, etc. And then throw in Crusader Kings II on PC (which has already logged over 65 hours from me, according to Steam, since July 13th) for good measure. :D

BCEagles
07-28-2012, 08:42 PM
Nice job steelerfan the sliders are working great for me. The only thing i changed was holding which i moved down to 40 but other than that everything seems fine.

steelerfan
07-28-2012, 08:59 PM
Nice job steelerfan the sliders are working great for me. The only thing i changed was holding which i moved down to 40 but other than that everything seems fine.

Thanks. They're not final. I haven't had as much time for NCAA as I did last year, but I'm still working towards getting then ironed out.

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Bohica1010
08-02-2012, 11:22 PM
I love it at 30 for speed threshold, very realistic. I have been comparing my speed for RB and WR vs the def players to see if I get run down or not and it seems to be good.

Great job as always SF. You do a great job with sharing with everyone! Thanks!

jaymo76
08-02-2012, 11:47 PM
After watching my WR get run down by a DE today, I think I may also be lowering the threshold back to 30 (which is the setting I have used for the last few years)

souljahbill
08-03-2012, 06:31 AM
I've always played with the speed threshold at 0.

steelerfan
08-03-2012, 12:10 PM
I love it at 30 for speed threshold, very realistic. I have been comparing my speed for RB and WR vs the def players to see if I get run down or not and it seems to be good.

Great job as always SF. You do a great job with sharing with everyone! Thanks!

Thanks.

I should have more time to play this month so, hopefully, I can get these fine tuned.

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steelerfan
08-05-2012, 11:12 AM
I made a bunch of changes to the first post to reflect what I'm currently using. I'm going to start a Dynasty with the Irish to test them out more in-depth. I'll post results and any tweaks as I go.

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steelerfan
08-05-2012, 07:48 PM
I took the opener at Navy, 50-21. :easy:

Here's a look at the numbers:

Stat: ND/Navy
First Downs: 21/15
Total Offense: 550/376
Rush-Yds-TD: 50-296-2/41-120-1
Comp-Att-TD: 15-23-4/14-29-1
Passing: 254/256
3rd Downs: 6-11/7-17
4th Downs: 0-0/0-1
2-pt: 0-0/0-0
RZ-TD-FG: 5-3-1/4-3-0
Turnovers: 3/3
Fumbles Lost: 2/1
Intercepted: 1/2
Penalties: 7-56/4-40
TOP: 22:33/13:27
Sacked: 1/6

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steelerfan
08-05-2012, 11:02 PM
The Irish go to 2-0 with a hard fought win over Purdue, 31-22. Crazy how close some of the stats are. I shut TerBush down in the second half. He was 13-15 for 251 and a TD at the half. In the second half he was just 3-10 for 31 yards a score and a lost fumble.

Here's a look at the numbers:

Stat: Purdue/ND
First Downs: 14/14
Total Offense: 371/369
Rush-Yds-TD: 31-89-0/39-191-2
Comp-Att-TD: 16-25-2/14-22-2
Passing: 282/178
3rd Downs: 4-13/4-13
4th Downs: 2-2/2-2
2-pt: 0-1/0-0
RZ-TD-FG: 4-1-3/2-2-0
Turnovers: 1/0
Fumbles Lost: 1/0
Intercepted: 0/0
Penalties: 4-25/1-10
TOP: 15:53/21:17
Sacked: 6/4

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jaymo76
08-06-2012, 01:06 AM
Steeler, I don't think the QB accuracy impacts the game at all. The slider seems to do nothing IMO. My 3rd string QB who is a 62 can pass the ball just as effectively as my starter who is an 86. The only time I see any change is when the player is rattled (blue bubble) or in heavy rain/wind.

steelerfan
08-06-2012, 08:52 PM
Crazy game. I won, at Michigan State, 24-17. They had a goal-to-go situation with under 2 minutes remaining and I stopped them on downs. There were 5 turnovers (rain) and I didn't record a single sack (wtf?!) despite the fact that they ran about 6 slip screens. Two of those screens went for their only 2 touchdown (again, wtf?!). Those screens covered 59 and 13 yards.

Here's a look at the numbers:

Stat: ND/MSU
First Downs: 13/15
Total Offense: 361/402
Rush-Yds-TD: 38-91-0/28-130-0
Comp-Att-TD: 15-26-3/17-36-2
Passing: 270/272
3rd Downs: 7-15/7-15
4th Downs: 0-1/0-2
2-pt: 0-0/0-0
RZ-TD-FG: 2-0-1/3-1-1
Turnovers: 2/3
Fumbles Lost: 0/2
Intercepted: 2/1
Penalties: 2-20/6-33
TOP: 20:37/15:23
Sacked: 3/0

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steelerfan
08-09-2012, 05:42 PM
I lost at home to Michigan, 34-31. I took the lead with 1:26 to go, but the Wolverines responded, and went back in front, with 0:31 to play. Typical of the last few between these two.

Here's a look at the numbers:

Stat: UM/ND
First Downs: 19/17
Total Offense: 421/397
Rush-Yds-TD: 41-196-3/35-137-1
Comp-Att-TD: 17-26-1/18-32-2
Passing: 225/260
3rd Downs: 3-11/7-13
4th Downs: 1-1/0-1
2-pt: 0-0/0-0
RZ-TD-FG: 5-3-2/4-2-1
Turnovers: 2/4
Fumbles Lost: 1/1
Intercepted: 1/3
Penalties: 3-15/0-0
TOP: 17:24/25:33
Sacked: 9/0

gigemaggs99
08-09-2012, 05:56 PM
I lost at home to Michigan, 34-31. I took the lead with 1:26 to go, but the Wolverines responded, and went back in front, with 0:31 to play. Typical of the last few between these two.

Here's a look at the numbers:

Stat: UM/ND
First Downs: 19/17
Total Offense: 421/397
Rush-Yds-TD: 41-196-3/35-137-1
Comp-Att-TD: 17-26-1/18-32-2
Passing: 225/260
3rd Downs: 3-11/7-13
4th Downs: 1-1/0-1
2-pt: 0-0/0-0
RZ-TD-FG: 5-3-2/4-2-1
Turnovers: 2/4
Fumbles Lost: 1/1
Intercepted: 1/3
Penalties: 3-15/0-0
TOP: 17:24/25:33
Sacked: 9/0


41 rushing attempts for UM that's a lot! 9 Sacks by ND was the Michigan QB alive at the end of the game?

steelerfan
08-09-2012, 06:30 PM
41 rushing attempts for UM that's a lot! 9 Sacks by ND was the Michigan QB alive at the end of the game?

You have to remember that 9 of their 41 rushes are those sacks. When you face a scrambling QB, this will happen. I think Robinson had 21 carries. It just sucks that I can't keep from sacking him so much because he always looks to run.

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CLW
08-09-2012, 07:18 PM
You have to remember that 9 of their 41 rushes are those sacks. When you face a scrambling QB, this will happen. I think Robinson had 21 carries. It just sucks that I can't keep from sacking him so much because he always looks to run.

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Yeah there is no work around for the stupid CPU scrambling QB scrambling right into the pass rush. It is what it is.

gigemaggs99
08-11-2012, 02:56 PM
I think I'm getting the hang of the WCO, I tried these sliders in my offline dynasty.

Total offense: 544 yards
Rushing, yards, TD 46-264-5
Passing Comp, att, TD 22-27-1
Passing yards 280
3rd down conversion 8-12

steelerfan
08-11-2012, 02:57 PM
I think I'm getting the hang of the WCO, I tried these sliders in my offline dynasty.

Total offense: 544 yards
Rushing, yards, TD 46-264-5
Passing Comp, att, TD 22-27-1
Passing yards 280
3rd down conversion 8-12

What was the match up?

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Vinny Pizza
08-11-2012, 05:44 PM
Hi All,
I've never really played much with sliders and usually play on the All-American level. This year i added these sliders and decided to start a dynasty with UMass on Heisman. I seem to be getting my backside handed to me in a major way. UConn hung about 70 on me and my closest game was a 54-46 loss to Miami of Ohio. On the other levels i usually light up the CPU but my defense is like swiss cheese on Heisman. Is UMass that bad or is this level just that hard!

Also, my last game against Miami, 13 holding penalties and every one on a kickoff return or punt return.

steelerfan
08-11-2012, 05:53 PM
Hey Vinny.

UMass is awful, first of all. Try playing a game with a good team and see if the results are better for you. If not, these sliders are not for you.

As for the holding calls, if you cut back or change directions, alot on returns, you will get flagged. Watch the replays and you'll see that your blockers who are between yourself and the defenders will hold because they are no longer shielding the defense from you.

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Vinny Pizza
08-11-2012, 06:47 PM
I think i may try a better team, and yes, UMass is terrible. I was just getting hammered so bad by a B grade Ohio U team that i shut it off. I can't stop a pass or the run with UMass. Or maybe i'm just getting too old and the reflexes aren't what they used to be!

Also, only one hold on me in 3 1/2 qtrs this game so maybe last week was a fluke. But i do tend to make a few moves on KR.

souljahbill
08-11-2012, 07:51 PM
I think i may try a better team, and yes, UMass is terrible. I was just getting hammered so bad by a B grade Ohio U team that i shut it off. I can't stop a pass or the run with UMass. Or maybe i'm just getting too old and the reflexes aren't what they used to be!

Also, only one hold on me in 3 1/2 qtrs this game so maybe last week was a fluke. But i do tend to make a few moves on KR.

Play another D-rated school in Exhibition (Play Now) mode and see how that goes

Dr Death
08-11-2012, 11:54 PM
Play another D-rated school in Exhibition (Play Now) mode and see how that goes

I thought sliders only tested best in Dynasty mode???

souljahbill
08-12-2012, 06:47 AM
I thought sliders only tested best in Dynasty mode???

Why would a dynasty game be different then a play now game?

Dr Death
08-12-2012, 06:51 AM
Why would a dynasty game be different then a play now game?

Because EA... never mind. I'm just sharing what I've heard/read/been told for the past few years...

souljahbill
08-12-2012, 07:03 AM
Because EA... never mind. I'm just sharing what I've heard/read/been told for the past few years...

Well, I have never heard of that. Maybe it's true. I don't know.

Vinny Pizza
08-12-2012, 08:32 AM
I may just suck! I played as the Miami canes and went against UMass in back to back games and they ended up as barn burners. Even with a B rated Miami I let up about 500 yards passing. We shut down the running game, but the UMass WR's just got open the entire game. Though I will say the feel of the game is realistic when you take out my ineptitude!

Escobar
08-13-2012, 04:16 PM
Well, I have never heard of that. Maybe it's true. I don't know.

It's true. The same reason that testing sliders in Dynasty mode games works differently than testing them in Dynasty mode practice.

souljahbill
08-13-2012, 05:21 PM
It's true. The same reason that testing sliders in Dynasty mode games works differently than testing them in Dynasty mode practice.

Really? So if I have the exact same sliders in Dynasty and Play Now, Michigan vs. Ohio St. is gonna play differently in both modes?

CLW
08-13-2012, 05:49 PM
I've NEVER bought this argument of sliders playing differently in Play Now v. Dynasty games. Of course games are going to have different outcomes its called variance. However, having played a ton of play now and dynasty games messing with sliders I've seen NOTHING to indicate it changes anything to any statistical significance.

The problem is people hear this then see a slightly different result and think they have stumbled on to something. Play a large enough sample size of games and the variance goes away with a few outliers here and there in both play now and dynasty games.

steelerfan
08-13-2012, 05:52 PM
I've NEVER bought this argument of sliders playing differently in Play Now v. Dynasty games. Of course games are going to have different outcomes its called variance. However, having played a ton of play now and dynasty games messing with sliders I've seen NOTHING to indicate it changes anything to any statistical significance.

The problem is people hear this then see a slightly different result and think they have stumbled on to something. Play a large enough sample size of games and the variance goes away with a few outliers here and there in both play now and dynasty games.

My thoughts too. However, people are free to believe what they want. :)

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souljahbill
08-13-2012, 06:09 PM
Yeah, if I have 2 identical computers, a program installed on both should work exactly the same.

SmoothPancakes
08-15-2012, 04:54 AM
Steeler, you feeling pretty good about your current set so far? Now that the patch is out (I wasn't even expecting it until at least August 24th), I'm gonna start getting ready to start my Tulsa dynasty. Gonna play a couple games with these and get a feel for them, but if you're feeling good about them so far, that'll good as gold for me.

steelerfan
08-15-2012, 07:47 AM
Steeler, you feeling pretty good about your current set so far? Now that the patch is out (I wasn't even expecting it until at least August 24th), I'm gonna start getting ready to start my Tulsa dynasty. Gonna play a couple games with these and get a feel for them, but if you're feeling good about them so far, that'll good as gold for me.

Please understand that I haven't played as much this year as I had at this point last year. That said, I feel pretty good about what I have and I don't see any gaping holes. Any holes that I have seen are unfixable with sliders, imo.

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CLW
08-15-2012, 09:22 AM
Steeler, you feeling pretty good about your current set so far? Now that the patch is out (I wasn't even expecting it until at least August 24th), I'm gonna start getting ready to start my Tulsa dynasty. Gonna play a couple games with these and get a feel for them, but if you're feeling good about them so far, that'll good as gold for me.


Please understand that I haven't played as much this year as I had at this point last year. That said, I feel pretty good about what I have and I don't see any gaping holes. Any holes that I have seen are unfixable with sliders, imo.

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Yeah Steeler's set is pretty solid this year. I'm currently using a slightly modified version but we will see how it looks after today's patch.

SmoothPancakes
08-15-2012, 07:27 PM
Please understand that I haven't played as much this year as I had at this point last year. That said, I feel pretty good about what I have and I don't see any gaping holes. Any holes that I have seen are unfixable with sliders, imo.

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Oh I know and understand. I used your sliders literally my entire time with NCAA 12, so whatever you come up with, I know will at least be a pretty good set.

I don't know what changes might have to be made with the release of the new patch today, but I'm gonna at least use your set and then make any changes that I may need to. Some stuff probably will need to be changed as I played a test dynasty game as Tulsa vs. UMass, and I was almost getting my ass handed to me. I'll have to toy around with it some more and see what I can come up with.

gigemaggs99
08-16-2012, 02:06 PM
I'm not sure if/what the update has done to affect these sliders but just for fun I changed my offline dynasty sliders back to the default set. Playing on AA and I had a pretty fun game, the stats seemed realistic, nothing glaring...I'll give your sliders a shot again, but if they don't seem to work out you might want to try the default and go from there. The default seemed to be a pretty good game.

The biggest difference I can see playing with QB accuracy at 50 vs 0-10 is you can throw the fade routes and lob the ball over the DB. Seems like when the QB acc is set to a lower setting my QBs either throw is low and it's picked or they chunk the ball out of bounds, no touch on the passes.

jaymo76
08-16-2012, 02:25 PM
I'm not sure if/what the update has done to affect these sliders but just for fun I changed my offline dynasty sliders back to the default set. Playing on AA and I had a pretty fun game, the stats seemed realistic, nothing glaring...I'll give your sliders a shot again, but if they don't seem to work out you might want to try the default and go from there. The default seemed to be a pretty good game.

The biggest difference I can see playing with QB accuracy at 50 vs 0-10 is you can throw the fade routes and lob the ball over the DB. Seems like when the QB acc is set to a lower setting my QBs either throw is low and it's picked or they chunk the ball out of bounds, no touch on the passes.

It's kind of like what Rudy said last year... slider are difficullt because they are such a personal matter. Personally I like Steelers sliders as a base set but I have greatly increased hum pass rush to 70 as well as hum qb acc to 35. The goal for sliders is to get them where I am happy. I have never used anyones slider set exactly. I need to find my comfort level.

steelerfan
08-16-2012, 03:04 PM
It's kind of like what Rudy said last year... slider are difficullt because they are such a personal matter. Personally I like Steelers sliders as a base set but I have greatly increased hum pass rush to 70 as well as hum qb acc to 35. The goal for sliders is to get them where I am happy. I have never used anyones slider set exactly. I need to find my comfort level.

See, I play on the D-Line so I always have the pass rush lower than most would.

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CLW
08-19-2012, 09:46 AM
Well I played my 1st offline dynasty game post patch and I think some changes are going to have to be made as I smoked #22 :Auburn: @ :Auburn: in my first game as HC at :Washington_State:

The Cougars are LOADED at WR but I picked apart Auburn like it was child's play.

jaymo76
09-01-2012, 11:42 AM
Steeler, are you playing NCAA at all anymore or is it all FIFA now? If it's all FIFA I'm worried about our next matchup... Steeler 17 Jaymo 0 end of the first half...:D

steelerfan
09-01-2012, 12:01 PM
Steeler, are you playing NCAA at all anymore or is it all FIFA now? If it's all FIFA I'm worried about our next matchup... Steeler 17 Jaymo 0 end of the first half...:D

All FIFA. But I'm sure that, with the college season underway, I'll be back on NCAA soon.

I'm finishing up my 8th season on FIFA. When I do, I'll likely put FIFA down until 13 drops later this month.

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Deuce
03-13-2013, 06:04 PM
:sf: ...man I have just started using you're sliders for the first time this season in my offline dynasty. I've never really used sliders but I am really enjoying yours. Usually after I win a NC I quit playing or lose interest. My games have been interesting an fun even though my team is now 'talented'. I know you are more of a FIFA guy now but I sure hope you get NCAA 14 and create new sliders. ...I might die if you don't make them. No pressure though. ;).

steelerfan
03-13-2013, 06:23 PM
:sf: ...man I have just started using you're sliders for the first time this season in my offline dynasty. I've never really used sliders but I am really enjoying yours. Usually after I win a NC I quit playing or lose interest. My games have been interesting an fun even though my team is now 'talented'. I know you are more of a FIFA guy now but I sure hope you get NCAA 14 and create new sliders. ...I might die if you don't make them. No pressure though. ;).

Really funny to see this thread get some love today. Earlier in the day I got a PM that involved sliders for NCAA and I've had this on my brain for the last hour. Ironic.

Anyway, while I am fully into FIFA these days I do imagine that I'll give NCAA 14 a try. If I do, you can bet I'll do sliders and share them in case they help someone. :)

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Deuce
03-13-2013, 06:25 PM
Really funny to see this thread get some love today. Earlier in the day I got a PM that involved sliders for NCAA and I've had this on my brain for the last hour. Ironic.

Anyway, while I am fully into FIFA these days I do imagine that I'll give NCAA 14 a try. If I do, you can bet I'll do sliders and share them in case they help someone. :)

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dhook27
03-24-2013, 06:06 PM
are these sliders more of a diffuculty set or a game feel set in your opinion?

steelerfan
03-24-2013, 06:50 PM
are these sliders more of a diffuculty set or a game feel set in your opinion?

These, for me, get a realistic snap count and the statistics to go with it.

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dhook27
03-26-2013, 06:53 PM
is the DB glitch at least somewhat non-existent in these sliders?

steelerfan
03-26-2013, 07:05 PM
is the DB glitch at least somewhat non-existent in these sliders?

I don't know what the glitch is. I have played exactly one game of NCAA since August. You'd have to play to find out. Sorry.

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dhook27
03-26-2013, 07:16 PM
the DB glitch is when the CPU has pass coverage set to aggressive and on every deep route the DB/Safety over plays it by a mile and leaves the WR wide open.. its a known glitch that can be fixed with sliders...... to be fixed i suggest sliders from OS as they seem to have way more feedback.

steelerfan
03-26-2013, 07:29 PM
the DB glitch is when the CPU has pass coverage set to aggressive and on every deep route the DB/Safety over plays it by a mile and leaves the WR wide open.. its a known glitch that can be fixed with sliders...... to be fixed i suggest sliders from OS as they seem to have way more feedback.

Um, ok...?

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