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CLW
05-24-2011, 04:40 PM
EA SPORTS Live Team member AJ and NCAA Football 12 Designer Jordan Peterson walk us through Coaching Carousel in these two Quick Clips.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDKchl279FM&feature=feedu


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7xDrnKiqOo

CLW
05-24-2011, 04:44 PM
Holy shizzle Duke in an EA NCAA Football video? That guy has to be right the world is coming to an end! :nod:


EDIT: I noticed that CMU and Duke (both 2 star schools) appeared to have the exact same goals for the OC position. Do the goals vary at all between the schools community day guys?

cdj
05-24-2011, 04:53 PM
The contracts are based on Team Prestige and contract length.

For example:
Two Star Prestige, Two Year Contract
Six Star Prestige, Four Year Contract

CMU and Duke appear to be the same Prestige and offering the user the same contract length.

CLW
05-24-2011, 05:00 PM
The contracts are based on Team Prestige and contract length.

For example:
Two Star Prestige, Two Year Contract
Six Star Prestige, Four Year Contract

CMU and Duke appear to be the same Prestige and offering the user the same contract length.

Gotcha. That's okay but I'd prefer it to be more team specific. I.e. an Option heavy team shouldn't have a nearly 3000 passing yard goal as it isn't really a realistic goal for an option team.

Note the facebook page is at 641,745 likes as of 6:00 p.m. EST

xGRIDIRONxGURUx
05-24-2011, 05:14 PM
i mentioned this somewhere... have it based on the team "style" for the initial sign, and then become dynamic based on your collective stats, and they push the bar on your each time... that way were not blowing the doors off this stuff easily... but for first year installment... my mouth is shut... liking it...

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Treadstone6700
05-24-2011, 06:17 PM
Note the facebook page is at 641,745 likes as of 6:00 p.m. EST

I'm not very optimistic about seeing the 2nd video tonight. Can't wait to take a look though

CLW
05-24-2011, 06:49 PM
I'm not very optimistic about seeing the 2nd video tonight. Can't wait to take a look though

Yeah I imagine it will be a day or two before they get another nearly 2K likes.

They are now at 641,946 as of 7:46 p.m. EST. So, that is 201 likes in basically 1.75 hours. IF that rate can keep up (doubtful given the time of day) the earliest we will see another video will be sometime between 5-6 a.m. tomorrow morning. Hopefully, the video comes out tomorrow and Duke takes home the BCS title. :nod:

PeteyKirch
05-24-2011, 07:04 PM
UConn at 88 overall?

Holy hell these rosters are going to be vastly overrated out of the box.

smace767
05-24-2011, 07:16 PM
UConn at 88 overall?

Holy hell these rosters are going to be vastly overrated out of the box.

This is after year 1.
UConn is 81 ovr for 2011 dont have a heart attack.
Makes you nervous though huh. Been in D1 10 years and already passed you by. More BCS bowls, 2 conf titles to How many does Rutgers have. You do own us lately but cant beat anybody else.

edit; in the ratings thread uconn is an 81. i posted before i watched the video. I agrees there is no way uconn is better than an 80. The Defense will be really good with about 3 NFL prospects but the o is hurtin bad right now. New scheme and no QB.

So Rutgers dude my bad. But we still make you nervous.

PeteyKirch
05-24-2011, 07:22 PM
This is after year 1.
UConn is 81 ovr for 2011 dont have a heart attack.
Makes you nervous though huh. Been in D1 10 years and already passed you by. More BCS bowls, 2 conf titles to How many does Rutgers have. You do own us lately but cant beat anybody else.

LOL

Hey how many players did you have get arrested?
Your school will forever be a basketball school.

We have one down year, and you think UCANT is the cats pajamas.

smace767
05-24-2011, 07:35 PM
Did YOU ask about arrested. Uconn is the BIg east champs in baseball, football, both bball teams and outdoor track. WE do other things.

PeteyKirch
05-24-2011, 07:43 PM
Did YOU ask about arrested. Uconn is the BIg east champs in baseball, football, both bball teams and outdoor track. WE do other things.

Wasn't one of your players arrested for possession of child pornography?

This is NCAA Football, I don't care about your basketball/baseball/track teams.

Your team was forced to hire a washed up coach in Paul P, and your school has seriously ZERO backing to the Football Program. You had a chance to build something decent with Randy, but you just couldn't pony up the cash for it, but if Geno or Calhoun needed something everyone bent over backwards.

JBHuskers
05-24-2011, 07:44 PM
ENOUGH of who's team is better and why your team sucks, etc.

CLW
05-24-2011, 08:07 PM
ENOUGH of who's team is better and why your team sucks, etc.

Speaking of "sucky" teams that one in Lincoln was so.... bad I heard they had to switch conferences to avoid embarrassing defeats from schools from Texas and Oklahoma. :nod:

souljahbill
05-24-2011, 08:17 PM
Speaking of "sucky" teams that one in Lincoln was so.... bad I heard they had to switch conferences to avoid embarrassing defeats from schools from Texas and Oklahoma. :nod:

I was going to make a Nebraska joke myself but I didn't pull the trigger because 1) Nebraska pretty much runs this site and 2) I rep Southern Miss. I couldn't talk any stuff because my squad can't back me up. :D


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JBHuskers
05-24-2011, 08:22 PM
Speaking of "sucky" teams that one in Lincoln was so.... bad I heard they had to switch conferences to avoid embarrassing defeats from schools from Texas and Oklahoma. :nod:


I was going to make a Nebraska joke myself but I didn't pull the trigger beacause 1) Nebraska pretty much runs this site and 2) I rep Southern Miss. I couldn't talk any stuff because my squad can't back me up. :D


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Gonna warm this bitch up for you guys :P

http://picpimp.net/ThisNThat/The%20Ban%20Hammer.jpg

Boucher
05-24-2011, 08:30 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFyWCNAjxic


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFyWCNAjxic

xGRIDIRONxGURUx
05-24-2011, 08:43 PM
this thread is officially suffering from ADHD... lol

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DariusLock
05-24-2011, 08:49 PM
this thread is officially suffering from ADHD... lol

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Actually, it's pretty focused on Nebraska...we got off topic...but they're focused lol.

DariusLock
05-24-2011, 08:51 PM
Also Ken Dorsey is my favorite Non-Ole Miss quarterback ever.

Miami is my Number 2 team. I remember watching that National Championship and then the Ohio St. one in which UM got robbed. McGahee, Hester, Taylor, Vilma, Wilfork, Winslow Jr, etc...gah good times.

xGRIDIRONxGURUx
05-24-2011, 08:52 PM
lol

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smace767
05-24-2011, 09:28 PM
Back on topic. (mostly)


Randy left because just like coach carousel Maryland is his "dream job", its where he is from. If Fridgen is still their randy would still be here. From the inside Randy is not that good a coach and many were glad to see him go. you will see. Too conservative. We gave you guys the game this year when we had it won, do to his playcalls.

I would give him B- across the board. HE held a guy out until mid way thru his red shirt sr year that the NFL had rated as a 2nd rd pick in the 2010 draft (wr easly). Played scrub fresh ahead of him because he recruited them. He was terrible with the Media and HS coaches. Thats why Arron Hernandez changed his mind and went to FLA.

Paul P was in the NFL last year so i would not call that completely washed up. Bet he comes in B+ across the board. Even he has a big East title and BCS games under his belt. Something yall dont know about.

This is ncaa Football your right, win your conf first before you say anything about any other school.

Note: It wasnt pure child porn, it was a 14 year old(HS fresh) when he was like 17(jr or sr) and he still had the stuff on computer and posting it on the web. Dont believe everything you read

ram29jackson
05-24-2011, 10:54 PM
doesnt appear you cab adjust the coaches height ? suits ! make him look like Knute Rockne or Lombardi or Hank Stram ! haha

CLW
05-25-2011, 05:42 AM
642,710 likes as of 6:42 a.m. EST this morning. i'd say we will likely see Part 2 sometime today.

SmoothPancakes
05-25-2011, 06:35 AM
I've already had them liked on Facebook since not long after they created the page, so not much I can do than just wait.

souljahbill
05-25-2011, 07:01 AM
I've already had them liked on Facebook since not long after they created the page, so not much I can do than just wait.

So have I. Whoever runs the account is smart. Everytime they do a "if we get _______ likes, we'll do ____________," they come up short but get a ton more people on their page. They've mastered the" carrot on a stick" technique.


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cdj
05-25-2011, 09:37 AM
98 Likes away from Part 2.

SmoothPancakes
05-25-2011, 10:24 AM
And we have hit the under 50 mark. Only need 47 more people.

morsdraconis
05-25-2011, 11:00 AM
643,005 now so should have the new video at any moment.

xGRIDIRONxGURUx
05-25-2011, 11:02 AM
unless they are on lunch break @ noon =)

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cdj
05-25-2011, 11:19 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7xDrnKiqOo

joshuahuskers
05-25-2011, 11:20 AM
lol, nm. cdj ftw.

xGRIDIRONxGURUx
05-25-2011, 11:32 AM
im going to love this... as a first year install its going to add some flavor we havent had, the tweaks will come and building the dynamic goals but for now... this is going to be nice...

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psusnoop
05-25-2011, 11:36 AM
im going to love this... as a first year install its going to add some flavor we havent had, the tweaks will come and building the dynamic goals but for now... this is going to be nice...

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Exactly, a nice base to start from with lots of upside down the road.

Gotmadskillzson
05-25-2011, 11:43 AM
You can have a winning season and still be fired, wow. Better meet them goals, goals are more important then wins it seems. Good stuff.

souljahbill
05-25-2011, 11:51 AM
Now I'm confused.

NC State fired their HC. NC State then promoted the OC to become the HC. Now, NC State needs an OC. When they hire a new OC, what offense will NC State run? The offense of the HC or the new OC? Will the HC always hire an OC/DC that matches their playstyle because it wouldn't make since for an OC to get promoted and then they hire an OC who runs a completely different style.


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cdj
05-25-2011, 11:55 AM
Now I'm confused.

NC State fired their HC. NC State then promoted the OC to become the HC. Now, NC State needs an OC. What offense will NC State run? The offense of the HC or the new OC?


Pretty sure it will be that of the new OC, however they may hire an OC with the same style as the HC as part of the playbook bonus.

souljahbill
05-25-2011, 11:56 AM
Pretty sure it will be that of the new OC, however they may hire an OC with the same style as the HC as part of the playbook bonus.

Crud, you answered while I was in the midst of editing my post.


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DariusLock
05-25-2011, 12:02 PM
Maybe next year they will let HC's decide if they want to run their own playbook. Ala Houston Nutt, the OC's revolve but the Offense stays pretty much the same at Ole Miss with a few wrinkles here and there that Nutt and the OC come up with. (Except this year, Nutt suppose to hand over the reigns to David Lee)

Cause I don't think you would ever see an OC get promoted and then bring in a new OC with a diff. playbook. So basically Auburn could be running Akrons play book if they get their OC and USC could be running Auburns offense in the game?

morsdraconis
05-25-2011, 01:13 PM
Maybe next year they will let HC's decide if they want to run their own playbook. Ala Houston Nutt, the OC's revolve but the Offense stays pretty much the same at Ole Miss with a few wrinkles here and there that Nutt and the OC come up with. (Except this year, Nutt suppose to hand over the reigns to David Lee)

Cause I don't think you would ever see an OC get promoted and then bring in a new OC with a diff. playbook. So basically Auburn could be running Akrons play book if they get their OC and USC could be running Auburns offense in the game?

That seems to be the case. Certainly interesting stuff.

My one real concern is how quickly some teams have turnover. Changing styles drastically could result in some interesting hirings down the road.

WolverineJay
05-25-2011, 07:29 PM
I'm not a huge fan of the coordinators keeping their prestige when they get hired as a head coach especially since that rating is dynamic.

We have all seen higly regarded coordinators flop as head coaches and then they either fade into oblivion or return to being a coordinator where they usually excel again. OC and DC prestige should drop a couple grades when they get promoted to be a head coach like A to C. If the guy is truly a good head coach then he should see that raise a full grade that first season back to a B then slowly raise back up to an A by like his 3rd successful season. Its a no brainer for a one star team with a D prestige head coach to fire him and replace him asap with an A rated coordinator if that means they suddenly have an A prestige head coach with all the benefits of having a stud coach like Saban.

Jayrah
05-25-2011, 08:01 PM
I'm not a huge fan of the coordinators keeping their prestige when they get hired as a head coach especially since that rating is dynamic.

We have all seen higly regarded coordinators flop as head coaches and then they either fade into oblivion or return to being a coordinator where they usually excel again. OC and DC prestige should drop a couple grades when they get promoted to be a head coach like A to C. If the guy is truly a good head coach then he should see that raise a full grade that first season back to a B then slowly raise back up to an A by like his 3rd successful season. Its a no brainer for a one star team with a D prestige head coach to fire him and replace him asap with an A rated coordinator if that means they suddenly have an A prestige head coach with all the benefits of having a stud coach like Saban.

+1

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CLW
05-25-2011, 10:11 PM
I'm not a huge fan of the coordinators keeping their prestige when they get hired as a head coach especially since that rating is dynamic.

We have all seen higly regarded coordinators flop as head coaches and then they either fade into oblivion or return to being a coordinator where they usually excel again. OC and DC prestige should drop a couple grades when they get promoted to be a head coach like A to C. If the guy is truly a good head coach then he should see that raise a full grade that first season back to a B then slowly raise back up to an A by like his 3rd successful season. Its a no brainer for a one star team with a D prestige head coach to fire him and replace him asap with an A rated coordinator if that means they suddenly have an A prestige head coach with all the benefits of having a stud coach like Saban.


+1

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Good point. Also, there must be a TON of A and A+ coaches. SMU/Kentucky/Maryland coordinators A+? :smh: :( :down: :fp:

morsdraconis
05-25-2011, 10:33 PM
Good point. Also, there must be a TON of A and A+ coaches. SMU/Kentucky/Maryland coordinators A+? :smh: :( :down: :fp:

You can edit the coaches each offseason. It's not THAT big of a deal. If you're actually worried about A+ coordinators turning into A+ coaches, just edit them once the carousel is done and you're fine.

In fact, I'll probably be doing just that once I determine if it needs to be done or not.

WolverineJay
05-25-2011, 10:49 PM
You can edit the coaches each offseason. It's not THAT big of a deal. If you're actually worried about A+ coordinators turning into A+ coaches, just edit them once the carousel is done and you're fine.

In fact, I'll probably be doing just that once I determine if it needs to be done or not.

Well it is fine for the start of a Dynasty to edit all the coaches, but what happens when I get 8+ years in and you can't edit the coaches ratings anymore(I was told we couldn't edit the coach prestige rating during a Dynasty)? Short term fixes will not work for those of us who play longer Dynasties. If the new coaches come in too high or the original ones progress to quickly, granted its too early to tell which way it will play out, but I would prefer a much more realistic system that doesn't require much editing if at all.

morsdraconis
05-25-2011, 10:51 PM
Well it is fine for the start of a Dynasty to edit all the coaches, but what happens when I get 8+ years in and you can't edit the coaches ratings anymore(I was told we couldn't edit the coach prestige rating during a Dynasty)? Short term fixes will not work for those of us who play longer Dynasties. If the new coaches come in too high or the original ones progress to quickly, granted its too early to tell which way it will play out, but I would prefer a much more realistic system that doesn't require much editing if at all.

At the end of each season, you can edit the coaches' ratings. Not sure where you heard otherwise, but you absolutely have the ability to edit coaches during each offseason.

WolverineJay
05-25-2011, 10:55 PM
At the end of each season, you can edit the coaches' ratings. Not sure where you heard otherwise, but you absolutely have the ability to edit coaches during each offseason.

I asked a specific question in the Dynasty Q&A about being able to edit a coach's rating during dynasty and was told no by gschwendt. I think we can edit names like currently, but as far as I 've been told we can't edit coach prestige rating during a Dynasty.

2) Do coaches have ratings that can be edited(before and during Dynasty)?
2) No

Maybe gschwendt was mistaken but that is all I can go by at this time.

morsdraconis
05-25-2011, 11:10 PM
I asked that again because I was sure that that was the case (but then I found where G answered no to the question you asked about that) so we'll see.

gschwendt
05-25-2011, 11:17 PM
To be clear, I didn't spend a whole lot of time with the coaching carousel but as well, I didn't answer all of the questions in that first answers post. Those were me, JB, cdj, & steelerfan collaborating.

I'll defer to JB or cdj as they spent considerably more time with CC than I did. At this point I honestly don't know when or what you can edit about coaches other than prior to starting a dynasty.

JBHuskers
05-26-2011, 10:00 AM
Coaches don't have specific ratings to edit. The editable information for a coach is basically informational stuff. A coach's rating only lies within prestige.

Edit: I'm looking to get a definite answer right now on editing the prestige.

JBHuskers
05-26-2011, 10:32 AM
Just got confirmation. Coach prestige can be edited before the start of a dynasty, but not during the season.

CLW
05-26-2011, 10:35 AM
Just got confirmation. Coach prestige can be edited before the start of a dynasty, but not during the season.

Sounds like a TON of A+ coaches are going to be out there in a few years into dynasty since there is no "downgrade" when an OC/DC becomes a new head coach. I guess that will basically make that pitch on the recruiting trail meaningless unless there are frequent/several retirements EVERY year.

JBHuskers
05-26-2011, 10:35 AM
I'm getting more confirmation if you can edit in between seasons or if it is only at the start of the dynasty.

gschwendt
05-26-2011, 10:36 AM
Sounds like a TON of A+ coaches are going to be out there in a few years into dynasty since there is no "downgrade" when an OC/DC becomes a new head coach. I guess that will basically make that pitch on the recruiting trail meaningless unless there are frequent/several retirements EVERY year.
Bear in mind, I'm fairly sure that recruiting prestige fluctuates throughout the course of the season so if a coach starts to struggle, his prestige will go down accordingly.

CLW
05-26-2011, 10:38 AM
Bear in mind, I'm fairly sure that recruiting prestige fluctuates throughout the course of the season so if a coach starts to struggle, his prestige will go down accordingly.

O.K. so say the SMU OC takes one of those HC jobs (NC State as example even though that did not happen in the video) now NC States starts out the year with a brand new A+ prestige coach. The Wolfpack go out there and "struggle" or put up a similar season to what they just finished with 7-6.

How big of a drop are we talking about from an A+? Are we talking C or are we talking B+ after going approx .500 or worse in a single season of a new HC job?

cdj
05-26-2011, 10:41 AM
Bear in mind, I'm fairly sure that recruiting prestige fluctuates throughout the course of the season so if a coach starts to struggle, his prestige will go down accordingly.

Also - When a coach takes a new job, he may have high Prestige, but he isn't necessarily going to have high Job Security. If they move to a six-star Prestige program and fail to reach 10+ wins and meet their goals, they are going to get on the hot seat and perhaps ultimately fired.

SmoothPancakes
05-26-2011, 10:43 AM
I'm getting more confirmation if you can edit in between seasons or if it is only at the start of the dynasty.

Appreciate it JB. This was going to be the exact thing I was about to ask, if it was just a one time thing at the very start of the dynasty, or if it's set up like custom conferences, where you can make changes/edits during every offseason.

WolverineJay
05-26-2011, 12:44 PM
To be clear, I didn't spend a whole lot of time with the coaching carousel but as well, I didn't answer all of the questions in that first answers post. Those were me, JB, cdj, & steelerfan collaborating.

I'll defer to JB or cdj as they spent considerably more time with CC than I did. At this point I honestly don't know when or what you can edit about coaches other than prior to starting a dynasty.

Sorry gschwendt I should have known it was a collaboration of all you guys that went down to EA Tiburon. I didn't mean to single you out, my bad.

So the answer is definitely no on editing coach prestige during a Dynasty?

xGRIDIRONxGURUx
05-26-2011, 01:37 PM
I'm getting more confirmation if you can edit in between seasons or if it is only at the start of the dynasty.

this... we dont know yet if you cant DURING or not... for sure... waiting on JB

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JBHuskers
05-26-2011, 01:37 PM
this... we dont know yet if you cant DURING or not... for sure... waiting on JB

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No I said that in a prior post this morning (probably the one right before the one you quoted), you can't edit during a season.

xGRIDIRONxGURUx
05-26-2011, 01:42 PM
i thought you were getting confirmation of in between seasons ... yeah i misread i believe...

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand carry on

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JBHuskers
05-26-2011, 01:46 PM
i thought you were getting confirmation of in between seasons ... yeah i misread i believe...

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand carry on

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Yeah still waiting for in between seasons confirmation.

xGRIDIRONxGURUx
05-26-2011, 02:04 PM
so i didnt misread it... good... because if you can between seasons then it will save a lot of the headaches and worries that some of these guys are having

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ram29jackson
06-02-2011, 05:03 PM
for those in multiplayer online dynasties. will we be able to create a coach without the carousel part going on ?

CLW
06-03-2011, 12:13 PM
so i didnt misread it... good... because if you can between seasons then it will save a lot of the headaches and worries that some of these guys are having

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It would but the longer we go w/o confirmation the more likely it is IMHO that you can only edit Coach ratings prior to the start of the dynasty or before their new career begins.

JeffHCross
06-05-2011, 12:54 PM
It would but the longer we go w/o confirmationI wouldn't read into it that way. The team's been very busy, and sometimes our e-mails just go unanswered.