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gschwendt
05-10-2011, 11:54 AM
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EA SPORTS held a monthly uStream event today that focused on NCAA Football 12. While the majority of the show featured in-depth developer discussion regarding Presentation and Gameplay upgrades, some new information was released regarding the demo and also a new game feature - Coach Mode.

Some of the new info:

The demo will feature two match-ups (TBA) that will allow users to unlock five Nike Pro-Combat uniforms. The other five will be available for EB Games/GameStop pre-orders. However, Producer Ben Haumiller disclosed that the pre-order uniforms will be made available at a later date for all NCAA 12 gamers.
There is no current release date for the demo, but it is expected to be available after E3, which is held in early June.
In response to a community question, Designer Greg Heddlesten stated that stat overlays will be more frequent and not only indicate yardage milestones, but also average (and below average) performances.
Four of the different crowd audio recordings were played to showcase the difference users will hear when playing at a large stadium as compared to a smaller stadium.
Executive Producer Roy Harvey visited the set and announced a new feature: Coach Mode. This mode will allow users to call the plays and pre-snap adjustments while watching the CPU execute the plays in a broadcast style camera.
A new screenshot was shown, featuring a night game between Alabama vs. LSU.
Dynasty info will begin to emerge on May 23 while information regarding Road to Glory improvements will be announced around E3.


Click here to view the archive of this uStream event (http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/14678246).

psusnoop
05-10-2011, 11:57 AM
Nice, might have to jump in on this after my sons ball game Friday night.

oweb26
05-10-2011, 12:10 PM
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EA Sports has posted information on the NCAA Football Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=130308843713614) regarding a Ustream event this Friday at 5pm scheduled to last until 8pm.

[I]On Friday May 13th at 5pm we will sit down with 3 developers from NCAA Football 12 team to talk about the latest announcements.


We'll provide further details as we hear about them.



Are TGT guys sitting down or is it just a generally speaking?

gschwendt
05-10-2011, 12:12 PM
Are TGT guys sitting down or is it just a generally speaking?
That's just generally speaking... it's taken from EA's posting.

CLW
05-10-2011, 12:21 PM
This thing was AWFUL last year mostly b/c guys were asking just really basic and/or stupid questions that had previously been answered in blogs by EA.

Jayrah
05-10-2011, 12:33 PM
I'm assuming this will be recorded?

gschwendt
05-10-2011, 12:38 PM
I'm assuming this will be recorded?
Yeah, usually all of the Ustream events are archived.

Jayrah
05-10-2011, 12:43 PM
Figured. I'll be working so I'll have to get to it afterwards.

psusnoop
05-10-2011, 01:53 PM
Yea I don't expect anything, but I can never get enough NCAA talk around this time.

morsdraconis
05-10-2011, 01:57 PM
Yea I don't expect anything, but I can never get enough NCAA talk around this time.

Even if it's everything that's already been talked about ad nauseum?

psusnoop
05-10-2011, 02:03 PM
Even if it's everything that's already been talked about ad nauseum?


Even then, sometimes it is fun to just look at things and read things over and over to see if you have missed anything. Maybe catch a new picture here and there (which there will be one from what was said). There are a few certain things where looking/viewing things over and over again is acceptable, NCAA is one, Porn is another (first two that came to mind sorry).

SmoothPancakes
05-10-2011, 02:26 PM
Even then, sometimes it is fun to just look at things and read things over and over to see if you have missed anything. Maybe catch a new picture here and there (which there will be one from what was said). There are a few certain things where looking/viewing things over and over again is acceptable, NCAA is one, Porn is another (first two that came to mind sorry).

Sure, whatever you say buddy. :D

:P

psusnoop
05-10-2011, 02:47 PM
Hahaha ok ok the order was reversed

JeffHCross
05-10-2011, 10:30 PM
An autographed football by Ingram, Fairley, Locker and Murray.:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

We don't have a good enough smiley for how much this just made me laugh.

Jayrah
05-11-2011, 08:42 AM
Nice Snoop! lol

gschwendt
05-11-2011, 09:45 AM
What NCAA Football 12 questions would you like to see the dev team address around gameplay and presentation during our upcoming UStream? Let us know in the comments section below and make sure you RSVP!
https://www.facebook.com/easportsncaafootball/posts/222597701084757

ram29jackson
05-11-2011, 06:23 PM
- A never before seen screen for NCAA Football 12



gee, I hope the kids are drooling over that one ? hahahahahaha

ram29jackson
05-11-2011, 06:27 PM
- An autographed football by Ingram, Fairley, Locker and Murray


can Fairley sign his own name ? are you sure ?

steelerfan
05-11-2011, 07:05 PM
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

We don't have a good enough smiley for how much this just made me laugh.


:rolleyes:

:fp:

:D

steelerfan
05-11-2011, 07:08 PM
Even if it's everything that's already been talked about ad nauseum?

Lol, haven't you stated, multiple times, that you are done with console gaming and thereby, NCAA? If someone else is enjoying the talk, let 'em. :nod:

steelerfan
05-11-2011, 07:10 PM
There are a few certain things where looking/viewing things over and over again is acceptable, NCAA is one, Porn is another (first two that came to mind sorry).

According to JB, gifs of cats is another. :fp:

CLW
05-11-2011, 07:13 PM
According to JB, gifs of cats is another. :fp:

Here Kitty Kitty...... :nod:

morsdraconis
05-11-2011, 08:35 PM
Lol, haven't you stated, multiple times, that you are done with console gaming and thereby, NCAA? If someone else is enjoying the talk, let 'em. :nod:

I am done with console gaming, but I still have a vested interest. ;)

ram29jackson
05-12-2011, 01:45 PM
so, are they going to say anything or will it be more of "we cant answer that yet "...?

3 hours is a long time for unpolished, promo fodder for the kiddy's.

gschwendt
05-12-2011, 01:46 PM
Consider that a lot of the Facebook crowd doesn't interact on forums or anything to keep up with the steady stream of news. I'm sure if it does actually go three hours, we'll see full games played as well as Q&A, etc. But honestly I'll be surprised if it lasts more than an hour.

ram29jackson
05-12-2011, 02:10 PM
Consider that a lot of the Facebook crowd doesn't interact on forums or anything to keep up with the steady stream of news. I'm sure if it does actually go three hours, we'll see full games played as well as Q&A, etc. But honestly I'll be surprised if it lasts more than an hour.


they say 5 to 8...not that I have any idea how to fill 3 hours haha ?

JeffHCross
05-12-2011, 09:09 PM
3 hours is a long time for unpolished, promo fodder for the kiddy's.So ignore it and then read the chat later.

gschwendt
05-13-2011, 03:51 PM
As expected, the chat will last for approximately an hour today (now scheduled 5pm to 6pm).

cdj
05-13-2011, 04:24 PM
Confirmed on developer uStream chat:

- Half of Pro-Combats available via demo, half via GameStop pre-order. However, those uniforms will be made available to everyone at a later date. NCAA 12 will still feature the Pro-Combats from last season.

cdj
05-13-2011, 04:31 PM
Next EA SPORTS uStream
June 6 1:30 PT
Live from EA Press Conference at E3

souljahbill
05-13-2011, 04:40 PM
Confirmed on developer uStream chat:

- Half of Pro-Combats available via demo, half via GameStop pre-order. However, those uniforms will be made available to everyone at a later date. NCAA 12 will still feature the Pro-Combats from last season.

Now, if only we could get PSN back up before the demo drops........


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cdj
05-13-2011, 04:47 PM
Demo going through certification process, no date. Probably after E3.

Unlock Pro-Combat Uniforms via two match-ups TBA.

skipwondah33
05-13-2011, 05:03 PM
That stadium noise test gave me goose bumps I will admit hearing 80,000 roar

Deuce
05-13-2011, 05:05 PM
Ya, that was pretty damn cool.

ram29jackson
05-13-2011, 05:07 PM
Confirmed on developer uStream chat:

- Half of Pro-Combats available via demo, half via GameStop pre-order. However, those uniforms will be made available to everyone at a later date. NCAA 12 will still feature the Pro-Combats from last season.

yeah, but is the palm tree on the sleeve or not ? haha

steelerfan
05-13-2011, 05:07 PM
Is there a format that would allow those of us who reject Facebook to view this?

gschwendt
05-13-2011, 05:08 PM
Is there a format that would allow those of us who reject Facebook to view this?

http://www.ustream.tv/easportslive

cdj
05-13-2011, 05:08 PM
EP Roy Harvey now on....giving away Presentation Cam (Broadcast Camera) in full fledged Coach Mode.

steelerfan
05-13-2011, 05:11 PM
http://www.ustream.tv/easportslive

Thank you, kind sir!

Deuce
05-13-2011, 05:12 PM
I really do like Roy Harvey. I think he's going to continue to have a great impact on the game

steelerfan
05-13-2011, 05:13 PM
I really do like Roy Harvey. I think he's going to continue to have a great impact on the game

+1

ram29jackson
05-13-2011, 05:15 PM
well, i'm going to need to see replay...

Tarhead10
05-13-2011, 05:42 PM
I have to agree about Roy Harvey... Everytime he talks about something or does a blog, it always gives me great confidence in the direction of this series...

ebarws6
05-13-2011, 05:54 PM
The video archive was made private by EA? I was in the middle of watching it (about 25:00 in) and then the video stopped. I reloaded the page and a message came up saying the video was made private. What would be the reasoning for that?

JBHuskers
05-13-2011, 06:01 PM
Yeah Roy is definitely a great guy who has a great vision for this franchise.

The addition of Coach Mode will definitely be welcome for quite a few guys in the community.

cdj
05-13-2011, 06:08 PM
The video archive was made private by EA? I was in the middle of watching it (about 25:00 in) and then the video stopped. I reloaded the page and a message came up saying the video was made private. What would be the reasoning for that?

Try this link (http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/14678246).

Rudy
05-13-2011, 06:52 PM
I loved having 4 different games in the demo last year. They spoiled us! They can't go backwards! (unless they give us 3 minute quarters).
:)

OSUCowboyofMD
05-13-2011, 06:56 PM
I just want to know all the 30 new entrances they have added...if anyone knows?

Rudy
05-13-2011, 07:13 PM
The volume was really low. Does Russ think he's the new Ian Cummings lol? He's rocking his hat backwards. A tribute perhaps?

psusnoop
05-13-2011, 07:47 PM
Yeah Roy is definitely a great guy who has a great vision for this franchise.

The addition of Coach Mode will definitely be welcome for quite a few guys in the community.

I've never really done a complete coach mode, but it could be interesting to do an online dynasty using that format.

JeffHCross
05-13-2011, 08:16 PM
I really do like Roy Harvey. I think he's going to continue to have a great impact on the gameIf anyone (besides AustinWolv) who's connected with Michigan can count me as a fan, you know he's done well. :nod:

Tarhead10
05-13-2011, 08:28 PM
So the University of Tennessee will not release rights for players to run through the T....That sucks for Vols fans, but oh well nothing you can do about it....

Tarhead10
05-13-2011, 08:29 PM
Also for Michigan fans, Ben said that he was pretty sure that the new scoreboard made it in...

steelerfan
05-13-2011, 08:47 PM
Just watched the whole show. It's exciting to hear the devs reference the Wishlist Tournament and to hear them use community-coined phrases like "psychic man coverage". Hopefully, this serves as evidence to those of you who have not met these guys - they are listening to forums like TGT and they watch the Wishlist Tournament closely. It's important to vote when TGT has the tourney, and to post the reasoning behind your votes.

Paakaa10
05-13-2011, 08:49 PM
Just watched the whole show. It's exciting to hear the devs reference the Wishlist Tournament and to hear them use community-coined phrases like "psychic man coverage". Hopefully, this serves as evidence to those of you who have not met these guys - they are listening to forums like TGT and they watch the Wishlist Tournament closely. It's important to vote when TGT has the tourney, and to post the reasoning behind your votes.

+ 1,000,000

Tarhead10
05-13-2011, 08:54 PM
I cant watch past 25:00 mins...It says my shockwave plugin has crashed???

JeffHCross
05-13-2011, 09:12 PM
I cant watch past 25:00 mins...It says my shockwave plugin has crashed???Got Chrome? That can happen when your memory maxes out. Close down other tabs and such and it might help.

xGRIDIRONxGURUx
05-13-2011, 09:19 PM
some out there may think coach mode isnt worth 2 cents... but i am genuinely pumped for it... to finally do coach mode dynasty and not worry about the sticks being touched... that, will be a blast

"E"

morsdraconis
05-13-2011, 09:35 PM
some out there may think coach mode isnt worth 2 cents... but i am genuinely pumped for it... to finally do coach mode dynasty and not worry about the sticks being touched... that, will be a blast

"E"

+1

Most definitely man. Gonna be great that that is finally truly in there.

gschwendt
05-13-2011, 09:47 PM
The only negative I will say regarding the coach mode is that you have to snap the ball each time. It might seem like a small deal but in the little I played, I became annoyed with it. I'd prefer to call the play and just sit back but obviously they want to give the option to do hot routes, etc.

Tarhead10
05-13-2011, 09:50 PM
Got Chrome? That can happen when your memory maxes out. Close down other tabs and such and it might help.

Yeah with Chrome I had to go get a updated version of shockwave... Thanks man

morsdraconis
05-13-2011, 10:08 PM
The only negative I will say regarding the coach mode is that you have to snap the ball each time. It might seem like a small deal but in the little I played, I became annoyed with it. I'd prefer to call the play and just sit back but obviously they want to give the option to do hot routes, etc.

It wouldn't be true coach mode without that ability though. Being unable to change the play at all once it's called wouldn't be true to form. Personally, I'm VERY glad that they brought that with it and it's not just choosing the play and progressing but actually allowing you to make changes and such but removing your ability to do anything with the sticks after the play happens.

gschwendt
05-13-2011, 10:21 PM
It wouldn't be true coach mode without that ability though. Being unable to change the play at all once it's called wouldn't be true to form. Personally, I'm VERY glad that they brought that with it and it's not just choosing the play and progressing but actually allowing you to make changes and such but removing your ability to do anything with the sticks after the play happens.
Yeah, I definitely see the argument for it... just not my cup of tea. I'll certainly try it again in the released game.

Jayrah
05-14-2011, 02:01 AM
The only negative I will say regarding the coach mode is that you have to snap the ball each time. It might seem like a small deal but in the little I played, I became annoyed with it. I'd prefer to call the play and just sit back but obviously they want to give the option to do hot routes, etc.


It wouldn't be true coach mode without that ability though. Being unable to change the play at all once it's called wouldn't be true to form. Personally, I'm VERY glad that they brought that with it and it's not just choosing the play and progressing but actually allowing you to make changes and such but removing your ability to do anything with the sticks after the play happens.

Not during cpu vs cpu though right? Also, I'm hoping that this is available for OD's. And maybe the ability for at least the commish to see cpu games. The most amazing thing is if we could watch user games online, but that's very wishful thinking. Either way, I can't wait for a blog on this. Interested to see what all the schematics are. I love Roy. LOL he looks like a total nerd. But I think we all are.....for football!

And by the way, did anyone else see Ben's eyes light up when Roy told them they could talk about the Cam?! LOL. Looked like Christmas at the Haumiller household. Something NEW!!!!! :D

Jayrah
05-14-2011, 02:05 AM
Oh my God, that stadium sound feature was the most awesome thing. I'm all revved up from that! I LOL'd big time when the smaller crowds came on. And of course the girlfriend just rolled her eyes. What can ya do?

To go along with that, another thing that I noticed being mentioned that we haven't really touched on in the forum all that much is dynamic attendance. He mentioned it as if it was going to be far more prevalent than in previous iterations. I know 2K11 really pushed the dynamic attendance, but as cool as it was, it still wasn't dynamic enough for me. I am interested in seeing what they do here. Some stadiums like Michigan/OSU/Tenn/LSU etc, never really have anything but a sellout, however during a down season you can still tell a difference in the crowd reactions. A lot of that has to do with the human nature and element of belief, but regardless, it's a dynamic that not many other sports have. When a team is down in a lot of sports, the crowds stop coming out. For a lot of college football, that's not the case. Will that be the case in the game, where you still see sellouts with those teams? Or will every stadium and atmosphere react the same way when "the season is tanking" as Ben so eloquently put it, and begin to empty?

rhombic21
05-14-2011, 09:48 AM
So, they bill all this pre-game stuff as a huge feature that really improves the game, and then they confirm that none of it shows up in online games (ranked or online dynasty). The pre-game stuff is in Madden, so they clearly have the technology to put it in NCAA. What they basically admitted on the show is that people would want to skip past it and not watch the same thing over and over.

Here's a thought: if it's not important enough that you think it should be included in online games, or if you think people aren't going to want to watch it after the first couple times the play the game, then skip it altogether and add something else. I don't really care that much for the pre-game intros, but I basically play online 100% of the time, so what this amounts to is that they dedicated a HUGE amount of programming time to something that effectively never shows up for me when I play the game. I'd rather they take the time they used for that and focus on any number of other things.

This is the shit that makes me feel like EA has no excuse to talk about resource limitations as a reason for not getting features or improvements into the game. If they didn't waste so much time on shit that either made the game worse, or which has absolutely no impact on the game at all, they could get a lot more done.

gschwendt
05-14-2011, 10:10 AM
Serious question to you rhombic, since the code itself is likely wrapped up (next week mostly likely for tuning), would you want them to spend any amount of time adding the team entrances to online play via patch? My thought would be just skip it all with first button push but if both guys want to watch it, neither pushes a button and they're good. I don't know how likely they would be able to patch that in or not but it's something that can be mentioned.

Paakaa10
05-14-2011, 10:11 AM
So, they bill all this pre-game stuff as a huge feature that really improves the game, and then they confirm that none of it shows up in online games (ranked or online dynasty). The pre-game stuff is in Madden, so they clearly have the technology to put it in NCAA. What they basically admitted on the show is that people would want to skip past it and not watch the same thing over and over.

Here's a thought: if it's not important enough that you think it should be included in online games, or if you think people aren't going to want to watch it after the first couple times the play the game, then skip it altogether and add something else. I don't really care that much for the pre-game intros, but I basically play online 100% of the time, so what this amounts to is that they dedicated a HUGE amount of programming time to something that effectively never shows up for me when I play the game. I'd rather they take the time they used for that and focus on any number of other things.

This is the shit that makes me feel like EA has no excuse to talk about resource limitations as a reason for not getting features or improvements into the game. If they didn't waste so much time on shit that either made the game worse, or which has absolutely no impact on the game at all, they could get a lot more done.

If NCAA Football or Madden NFL were online-only games, then I would agree with your general statement that since these entrances won't show up in online games, time shouldn't be spent on them.

But there are a good number of gamers who play primarily offline; a recent OperationSports.com poll revealed that over half of their community rarely plays online, and that's known as a fairly "hardcore" community. The people who play primarily offline will get to see these entrances every time, and many of them--myself included--will watch them every time because I appreciate the attention to detail in adding these traditions to the game.

It is also important to realize that creating entrances and traditions has no effect whatsoever on time that "should be" spent programming the gameplay. The creative/art team creates these entrances and these traditions, while the gameplay team--a completely separate group of programmers--is focused on creating the game actually played on the sticks. And since that gameplay team--which creates the base code for gameplay for both NCAA and Madden--is due to just about double in size, there should be even less justification in the future for complaining that improvements to the artistic side of the game are "sucking up the time and resources" for making the game itself better.

souljahbill
05-14-2011, 10:19 AM
If NCAA Football or Madden NFL were online-only games, then I would agree with your general statement that since these entrances won't show up in online games, time shouldn't be spent on them.

But there are a good number of gamers who play primarily offline; a recent OperationSports.com poll revealed that over half of their community rarely plays online, and that's known as a fairly "hardcore" community. The people who play primarily offline will get to see these entrances every time, and many of them--myself included--will watch them every time because I appreciate the attention to detail in adding these traditions to the game.

It is also important to realize that creating entrances and traditions has no effect whatsoever on time that "should be" spent programming the gameplay. The creative/art team creates these entrances and these traditions, while the gameplay team--a completely separate group of programmers--is focused on creating the game actually played on the sticks. And since that gameplay team--which creates the base code for gameplay for both NCAA and Madden--is due to just about double in size, there should be even less justification in the future for complaining that improvements to the artistic side of the game are "sucking up the time and resources" for making the game itself better.

Thanks for saving me a lot of typing. :up:


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xGRIDIRONxGURUx
05-14-2011, 10:26 AM
there still is a mindset about the development of this game that its 4 dudes sharing cubicles somewhere and they all split up everything in the game between them...

"E"

steelerfan
05-14-2011, 11:39 AM
If NCAA Football or Madden NFL were online-only games, then I would agree with your general statement that since these entrances won't show up in online games, time shouldn't be spent on them.

But there are a good number of gamers who play primarily offline; a recent OperationSports.com poll revealed that over half of their community rarely plays online, and that's known as a fairly "hardcore" community. The people who play primarily offline will get to see these entrances every time, and many of them--myself included--will watch them every time because I appreciate the attention to detail in adding these traditions to the game.

It is also important to realize that creating entrances and traditions has no effect whatsoever on time that "should be" spent programming the gameplay. The creative/art team creates these entrances and these traditions, while the gameplay team--a completely separate group of programmers--is focused on creating the game actually played on the sticks. And since that gameplay team--which creates the base code for gameplay for both NCAA and Madden--is due to just about double in size, there should be even less justification in the future for complaining that improvements to the artistic side of the game are "sucking up the time and resources" for making the game itself better.


+1

Some people just want to bitch, moan, and bellyache at every opportunity. If entrances were part of online games, he'd bitch that he has to button through them. Lame.

steelerfan
05-14-2011, 11:40 AM
there still is a mindset about the development of this game that its 4 dudes sharing cubicles somewhere and they all split up everything in the game between them...

"E"

People should look at the credits sometime, lol.

JBHuskers
05-14-2011, 12:38 PM
+1

Some people just want to bitch, moan, and bellyache at every opportunity. If entrances were part of online games, he'd bitch that he has to button through them. Lame.

No shit....it was like this last year. Where was the rage all year last year, and now all of a sudden it's the end of the world? :D

Jayrah
05-14-2011, 12:46 PM
Serious question to you rhombic, since the code itself is likely wrapped up (next week mostly likely for tuning), would you want them to spend any amount of time adding the team entrances to online play via patch? My thought would be just skip it all with first button push but if both guys want to watch it, neither pushes a button and they're good. I don't know how likely they would be able to patch that in or not but it's something that can be mentioned.

YES YES YES! Idk what Rhombic answers :D I want to see this!

I play in primarily OD's now. Cpu games still include entrances, so this still is an important part of the atmosphere for me. I watch every single pregame because it gets me amped. And now that Custom Music is in for this, it would be cool to go into another users stadium and their choice of music is opening the game up.

BTW would someone find out if cpu jersey selection can be done in OD's please? I understand that they won't allow you to move to the other team so that you don't play as them, but you should be able to select the uniform of both teams regardless. It's a small thing but it bugs the crap out of me. OR at least make the cpu uni select randomly please.

gschwendt
05-14-2011, 12:51 PM
YES YES YES! Idk what Rhombic answers :D I want to see this!

I play in primarily OD's now. Cpu games still include entrances, so this still is an important part of the atmosphere for me. I watch every single pregame because it gets me amped. And now that Custom Music is in for this, it would be cool to go into another users stadium and their choice of music is opening the game up.

BTW would someone find out if cpu jersey selection can be done in OD's please? I understand that they won't allow you to move to the other team so that you don't play as them, but you should be able to select the uniform of both teams regardless. It's a small thing but it bugs the crap out of me. OR at least make the cpu uni select randomly please.
I'm not making the trip but I'd agree that it would be nice to be able to see them show up in OD User vs User games and will encourage those making the trip to express this. That said, one hurdle I can see is regarding Stadium Sounds... since it's stored on your HDD, your opponent certainly wouldn't hear it. They would likely have to add an additional logic step to help cover that for your opponent.

As far as the CPU jersey selection... honestly not sure if that's in this year or not, however I would expect the "random uniform" idea to be more likely than allowing you to pick the CPU's uniforms simply because again, additional logic/interface would have to be added to allow you to modify their uniforms while not allowing you to control them at the team select screen.

Jayrah
05-14-2011, 12:57 PM
I'm not making the trip but I'd agree that it would be nice to be able to see them show up in OD User vs User games and will encourage those making the trip to express this. That said, one hurdle I can see is regarding Stadium Sounds... since it's stored on your HDD, your opponent certainly wouldn't hear it. They would likely have to add an additional logic step to help cover that for your opponent.

As far as the CPU jersey selection... honestly not sure if that's in this year or not, however I would expect the "random uniform" idea to be more likely than allowing you to pick the CPU's uniforms simply because again, additional logic/interface would have to be added to allow you to modify their uniforms while not allowing you to control them at the team select screen.

Ok well at least so the one guy can see it. Maybe the option to play shared files, so that I can download the music that other users are using, and apply it via my HDD to their team. Then it would play on my end through MY HDD, and of course it would play for them as well.

Jersey selection. Yeah that would be fine. Even if it wasn't totally random, at least have different "away" or "home" options and have it randomly select from those.

cdj
05-14-2011, 12:57 PM
BTW would someone find out if cpu jersey selection can be done in OD's please? I understand that they won't allow you to move to the other team so that you don't play as them, but you should be able to select the uniform of both teams regardless. It's a small thing but it bugs the crap out of me. OR at least make the cpu uni select randomly please.

I played only in ODs in 11...could you change CPU uniforms in Dynasty games?

gschwendt
05-14-2011, 01:01 PM
Ok well at least so the one guy can see it. Maybe the option to play shared files, so that I can download the music that other users are using, and apply it via my HDD to their team. Then it would play on my end through MY HDD, and of course it would play for them as well.
That's a whole different ball of wax and almost certainly wouldn't be added to NCAA12 and likely not ever.

rhombic21
05-14-2011, 01:34 PM
1) I'm fairly certain that the art personnel cost money -- money which could otherwise be spent on different program areas, so to act like it's not some kind of tradeoff is absurd. EA has a limited about of resources that they are going to invest in making the game, so money they spend on art (in the form of hiring engineers, building new technology, acquiring art assets, etc...) is money that they DON'T spend on other things. Whether that means hiring additional people for their gameplay team, or investing in technology to implement various kinds of physics engines, or even hiring additional people to work on playbooks, rosters, or even new feature sets. Money spent on one area of the game is money that you cannot spend on other areas.

2) Even within the art department, I would imagine that there's a tradeoff between time spent on things like pre-game rituals and time spent capturing implementing new animations, or even doing other presentation aspects, such as improving the sideline atmosphere. If you're telling me that this is a feature that you expect people to skip a lot, then I don't see why it gets preference over other aspects of art/presentation which would have more staying power. Think about this in addition: if they are expecting people to skip them after the first couple of times playing this year, how much is this feature going to contribute to the game on next year's version or the year afterwards? Probably not all that much. So there's a huge upfront investment, and then a steep decline in the return on that investment over time. My preference is that instead of focusing on things like that, they instead focus on things that improve the core experience in a way that has more staying power. This is just poor long-term strategic planning. And given how much they rely on the "we have limited time/resources" argument when explaining why various features have not been implemented (or have been implemented very poorly), I'm not willing to give them a lot of slack when they then invest some of these limited resources on features that people aren't going to get much enjoyment of about 3 months after the game comes out.

3) All else equal, I would like the presentation to be in online, with the way it is in Madden (if both people choose to skip then it skips). Whether they ought to spend time on that in a patch is a different matter, because I am assuming that there will probably be other, more serious issues related to gameplay or perhaps even dynasty mode that require attention via a patch (there is almost always something that is broken pretty badly in the retail version).

I just think it's baffling to spend a huge amount of your development time on a presentation feature that doesn't even show up in one of the core gameplay modes. If you truly think this is a really cool addition that makes the game better, why WOULDN'T you think that people in online games would want to see it? It makes no sense.

JBHuskers
05-14-2011, 02:19 PM
This must be the new dreads at other places :smh:

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ram29jackson
05-14-2011, 02:30 PM
it does seem rather dumb to spend a month pumping entrance animations and then say you wont see entrances head to head online. Online is trully head to to head so the guy should know he is coming to MY house. If he's an A.D.D. cheesing 12 year old, thats his problem. That said, online players are about 10% of their sales.

RussellWilson
05-14-2011, 02:41 PM
You can change the other teams jersey's in '11. But hearing coach mode and combat jerseys im pumped.:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

JBHuskers
05-14-2011, 02:42 PM
When it comes to online play, wouldn't you want the time you play online reduced as much as possible to reduce disconnections?

Another question, how many of you button through the entrances in NCAA 11? And why was this not brought up as an issue say in the wishlist tournament for NCAA 12? Because you couldn't see entrances online in NCAA 11?

ram29jackson
05-14-2011, 02:50 PM
When it comes to online play, wouldn't you want the time you play online reduced as much as possible to reduce disconnections?

Another question, how many of you button through the entrances in NCAA 11? And why was this not brought up as an issue say in the wishlist tournament for NCAA 12? Because you couldn't see entrances online in NCAA 11?

the tunnel stuff becomes repetitive, although in a teambuilder game I would have loved the other guy to get a close up of my created team/ uni ! last years entrance could get repetitious but these new ones are freakin -Theatre-.

of course , yeah, if they cant make online reliably smooth and you need to get in a game fast to not get disconnected, well....

cdj
05-14-2011, 02:56 PM
When it comes to online play, wouldn't you want the time you play online reduced as much as possible to reduce disconnections?

Good point. I had assumed the reasoning for it not showing in Online Play was to reduce the time vulnerable to a disconnection, but we can ask next week about it. I think some other EA games have intros for online play but you can X through them.

ram29jackson
05-14-2011, 02:58 PM
where on this site is the "On the Spot" video posted ?

cdj
05-14-2011, 02:58 PM
where on this site is the "On the Spot" video posted ?

Right here (http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/forums/showthread.php?2179-Gamespot-s-quot-On-The-Spot-quot-with-NCAA-Football-12-Video-amp-Recap&p=57914&viewfull=1#post57914).

souljahbill
05-14-2011, 03:47 PM
Another question, how many of you button through the entrances in NCAA 11? And why was this not brought up as an issue say in the wishlist tournament for NCAA 12? Because you couldn't see entrances online in NCAA 11?

It might have been the one thing dreads could have beaten out. :D


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steelerfan
05-14-2011, 03:56 PM
This must be the new dreads at other places :smh:

Like I said, bitch if it's not there, and bitch if it is.

The d-bags on the NHL forums complain because EA leaves the pregame in for EASHL and they have to "X" through it. Some people have nothing better to do than complain.

I OU a Beatn
05-14-2011, 04:04 PM
That said, online players are about 10% of their sales.

That's an incorrect assumption. Also, :D @ saying Operation Sports is mostly hardcore. That's the most outrageous statement I have ever heard in my life. I have never once read a simple piece of criticism or feedback over there from someone who plays online. Not once. Over the years when I read stuff over there, it's mostly "is my team's gloves colored correctly," or "wow, this game is unbelievably amazing...the graphics look sweet and Oregon has 20 uniforms," or "the field degenerates! Best game ever!". OS would literally be the last place that I would designate as having a "hardcore" audience when it comes to NCAA Football games.

I know for a fact that the leaderboards on '11 was way over 100,000 for PS3, and since the leaderboards only show the first 100,000, it's more than likely closer to 200,000. Considering the game sold about 670,000, the percentage that play online is closer to 30% or 40% - definitely not 10%. It would be extremely moronic to ignore 30% or more of your fan base.


When it comes to online play, wouldn't you want the time you play online reduced as much as possible to reduce disconnections?

Another question, how many of you button through the entrances in NCAA 11? And why was this not brought up as an issue say in the wishlist tournament for NCAA 12? Because you couldn't see entrances online in NCAA 11?

I don't think it has anything to do with disconnections. It's P2P, so it's pretty well dependent upon the players' own personal connection.

For the record, I couldn't care less if shows player entrances or not. As far as I'm concerned, that's another casual feature aimed at making it more realistic for the people looking for a truly simulated experience. I'd watch it once and skip it, so I couldn't care less either way.

Koach Vonner
05-14-2011, 04:15 PM
I would think or hope that you can change the opposing teams uniforms in NCAA12. You can in 2K11.

I also remember a time when so many people complained about atmosphere and entrances. So now we have them, and people could care less. They say they will skip them and they should just spend less time on them. If I was at EA, I would just take them out and go str8 to the coin flip. See how people respond to that.

Jayrah
05-14-2011, 09:00 PM
Gameplay: Most....let me repeat.... MOST online ranked game players don't care about a sim gameplay experience. They care about their ranking online and that's it. So to spend time figuring out what someone can break and then wasting time and resources trying to fix it doesn't appeal to me as a buyer. Yes there are some plays that need to be addressed because they cover cpu ai flaws that effect realistic impressions of many plays in the game. But if someone is going to try and break the game, then I don't care what element they bring to the table for EA. This is the problem with the "East Wing Guys". They don't care about playing real football, so what they can do to the game is pointless in every facet. I want someone who plays realistically to do so, then tell EA what isn't working in a realistic environment. It's a complicated sports video game that's meant to function under the realistic rules of college football, so of course if you try and break it down to exploit it, it's going to happen. Here's my suggestion: If you don't like that the "east wingers" are playing unrealistic football, and you just can't possibly stand how much advantage they take of you because the cpu has a cpu flaw, DON'T PLAY THEM! If your goal is to have a realistic experience, get with people that are also looking for a realistic experience!!!!! Stop trying to fool yourself into thinking that the guys would want to play real football if they were "made to play" real football. It's just not going to happen. It's a lot of kids who know the point to winning football is scoring, so they do everything they can to find that one play that helps them score the most. But they don't take football seriously like we do, nor do they understand the intricacies of the sport, nor do they care about a coaching angle.

Presentation (custom entrances): I think that the custom entrances should be left off of ranked games. The people playing ranked games are not looking for a presentation based experience, period. However in OD I would really push that custom entrances should be available in user games because the experience that a player will be looking for is more dynasty and presentation oriented, with the recruiting, rankings, awards, bowl games AND yes, even game to game matters more, because you're playing at a leisurely pace with an end goal, as compared to Ranked games back to back to back to just play somebody. Also, it's not just a random opponent in OD. It's somebody that you're building a rivalry with over the course of several seasons and getting all fired up before the game as each team runs their tradition out onto the field is just another potential element of the build up and love-to-hate between you. For example I'm going to be Michigan and my friend is going to be Ohio St. In our current OD we have grown a rivalry through message posts and some great games (even though we're in separate conferences). Now next year when we get together, it would just be epic to go to his stadium and get all fired up through the tradition of the pre-game moment at his stadium, and then upset him. Also for those that never use a team outside of their OD, the potential to never see the traditions at certain schools because other users are controlling them is :(.

But I don't think that's a reason not to have them at all. I would hate for them to totally not spend time on it because I still see it in my non-user games. And it's still a part of the "total package" that I expect in an NCAA game. Stuff like the 3D crowd. I'm pumped up for that. It means little to the gameplay aspect, but my experience is going to be much more fulfilled.

xMrHitStickx904
05-14-2011, 09:42 PM
When it comes to online play, wouldn't you want the time you play online reduced as much as possible to reduce disconnections?

Another question, how many of you button through the entrances in NCAA 11? And why was this not brought up as an issue say in the wishlist tournament for NCAA 12? Because you couldn't see entrances online in NCAA 11?


I'm an avid online player when I get the chance, which is a lot since i'm in college lol. For me, I love presentation, and great gameplay, ever since I started playing for real with NCAA 04, those always went hand in hand. Same for playbooks.

Madden 10 got this right, when it brought it's enhanced presentation, you could skip through it, as long as your opponent agreed to. There was a button at the top that showed when your opponent was ready, so I used the extra minute to watch the presentation, or get something to drink before the game. That, and Madden allowed saved depth charts, which NCAA needs to bring. So to answer your question, NCAA 12 needs to add that IMO, whether through patch or maybe for NCAA 13, cause Madden 11 stunted itself when they got rid of that. Madden on the PS2 had presentation online during ranked, and hardcore ranked, so it's not about the presentation being in an online game, it's about having the option to view it or not.

xMrHitStickx904
05-14-2011, 09:48 PM
Omg that was a trip! LOL'd the entire time. Ya'll need to chill. It's a game....Damn!

But back on discussion.

Gameplay: Most....let me repeat.... MOST online ranked game players don't care about a sim gameplay experience. They care about their ranking online and that's it. So to spend time figuring out what someone can break and then wasting time and resources trying to fix it doesn't appeal to me as a buyer. Yes there are some plays that need to be addressed because they cover cpu ai flaws that effect realistic impressions of many plays in the game. But if someone is going to try and break the game, then I don't care what element they bring to the table for EA. This is the problem with the "East Wing Guys". They don't care about playing real football, so what they can do to the game is pointless in every facet. I want someone who plays realistically to do so, then tell EA what isn't working in a realistic environment. It's a complicated sports video game that's meant to function under the realistic rules of college football, so of course if you try and break it down to exploit it, it's going to happen. Here's my suggestion: If you don't like that the "east wingers" are playing unrealistic football, and you just can't possibly stand how much advantage they take of you because the cpu has a cpu flaw, DON'T PLAY THEM! If your goal is to have a realistic experience, get with people that are also looking for a realistic experience!!!!! Stop trying to fool yourself into thinking that the guys would want to play real football if they were "made to play" real football. It's just not going to happen. It's a lot of kids who know the point to winning football is scoring, so they do everything they can to find that one play that helps them score the most. But they don't take football seriously like we do, nor do they understand the intricacies of the sport, nor do they care about a coaching angle.

Presentation (custom entrances): I think that the custom entrances should be left off of ranked games. The people playing ranked games are not looking for a presentation based experience, period. However in OD I would really push that custom entrances should be available in user games because the experience that a player will be looking for is more dynasty and presentation oriented, with the recruiting, rankings, awards, bowl games AND yes, even game to game matters more, because you're playing at a leisurely pace with an end goal, as compared to Ranked games back to back to back to just play somebody. Also, it's not just a random opponent in OD. It's somebody that you're building a rivalry with over the course of several seasons and getting all fired up before the game as each team runs their tradition out onto the field is just another potential element of the build up and love-to-hate between you. For example I'm going to be Michigan and my friend is going to be Ohio St. In our current OD we have grown a rivalry through message posts and some great games (even though we're in separate conferences). Now next year when we get together, it would just be epic to go to his stadium and get all fired up through the tradition of the pre-game moment at his stadium, and then upset him. Also for those that never use a team outside of their OD, the potential to never see the traditions at certain schools because other users are controlling them is :(.

But I don't think that's a reason not to have them at all. I would hate for them to totally not spend time on it because I still see it in my non-user games. And it's still a part of the "total package" that I expect in an NCAA game. Stuff like the 3D crowd. I'm pumped up for that. It means little to the gameplay aspect, but my experience is going to be much more fulfilled.

I'm gonna disagree with you a tiny bit here. Don't let the top 20-30 fool you. Like I stated, i'm a big online guy, and I was in Madden's Top 100 in Madden 10, and close on NCAA 10, and honestly, the majority of online guys do not cheese to tell you the truth. Yes, you may run into some idiots, but that happens in all online games. I've played about 200 online games between both of my gamertags, and I've played about 15-20 cheesers, a pretty low percentage. Bringing in the Top online guys however is crucial, cause that's where the flaws of the game are exploited an need to be fixed. Many sim communities criticize the Madden tournament scene, saying we don't know about football, just money plays and cheese, when in reality, guys like Sgibs and Shopmaster that represent people like me at the Madden CD can glitch, but know so much about football, the PS2 days, features we want back, and teaching EA how to manipulate the AI so that it can be eliminated helps make a better product IMO.

C00KH4X
05-14-2011, 10:11 PM
I personally could care less about entrances, pregame/halftime/final highlight shows or any of that in an Online Setting. Yes those are great features for the people playing casually against the CPU or the people that love dynastys and I understand what it adds for them, but as a strictly online player I can guarantee that I would skip any of those scenes and so would all the others who play only online, because when you want to play ranked matches all you want to do is get in the game and finish it as fast as possible so that you can move on to the next game.

And BTW I play FIFA online a lot, they have pregame cutscenes that show every time you start a ranked match, they also have the option to skip them.. Guess what everybody skips them.

JeffHCross
05-14-2011, 10:41 PM
The only negative I will say regarding the coach mode is that you have to snap the ball each time.I wasn't sure how much we could say about Coach Mode, but since you said this then I'll agree with you. I actually got called for Delay of Game on my first play of Coach Mode because I didn't realize I had to snap the ball. My mistake was that I thought of it like NFL Head Coach 09 -- where you call the play, can make some (but not all) pre-snap adjustments, but have no control over the snap.

xMrHitStickx904
05-15-2011, 12:26 AM
I just feel like it's about having the option to skip, rather than not having it. Whichever a player chooses is their prerogative, but it's about making it accessible for the people who want it in.

Jayrah
05-15-2011, 03:35 AM
I just feel like it's about having the option to skip, rather than not having it. Whichever a player chooses is their prerogative, but it's about making it accessible for the people who want it in.

Online ppl don't really care about that stuff. But since the time and resources is going into something not directly catering to their personal in game experience, they get all defensive and start throwing the blame ball around.

Jayrah
05-15-2011, 04:37 AM
I'm gonna disagree with you a tiny bit here. Don't let the top 20-30 fool you. Like I stated, i'm a big online guy, and I was in Madden's Top 100 in Madden 10, and close on NCAA 10, and honestly, the majority of online guys do not cheese to tell you the truth. Yes, you may run into some idiots, but that happens in all online games. I've played about 200 online games between both of my gamertags, and I've played about 15-20 cheesers, a pretty low percentage. Bringing in the Top online guys however is crucial, cause that's where the flaws of the game are exploited an need to be fixed. Many sim communities criticize the Madden tournament scene, saying we don't know about football, just money plays and cheese, when in reality, guys like Sgibs and Shopmaster that represent people like me at the Madden CD can glitch, but know so much about football, the PS2 days, features we want back, and teaching EA how to manipulate the AI so that it can be eliminated helps make a better product IMO.

I don't believe that if you were GETTING a true sim experience as you claim to want, that you would be complaining about the ultra ai "exploits" that people are "continually taking advantage of" online. I also don't believe that if you were WANTING that true experience, that you would continue to play in a place that would have to "force" players to play more realistically. Now that I play in a league at TSO, I understand that a sim experience is about more than just playing a perfectly put together AI football game against another user. Its about respecting the game for what is fair and what is not based on the exploits of the game, pitting that against the physical rules of real life football and playing at a level that doesn't abuse that edge. Oh yeah, and still finding a way to win.

Could things be better? Yeah they could and I want EA to know how they could do that as much as anyone! I put in my 2cents all the time on things that would help the game and the series become closer to a real life game.

Am I gonna whine till my head falls off about the fact that I can't get a decent game of football with the "east wing guys" cause they exploit the game too much based on its ai flaws and therefore threaten to not buy the game until 'x, y and z' are fixed?:

No!!!

Point is, it's a video game so no matter how good the game gets, exploits will be available. Those that care only about wins will find a way to exploit the game to benefit them. Those that care about how the game is played will avoid that when it doesn't fit a real life situation. Point blank, period, end of story.

Getting all worked up over EA spending their time to please more than 50% of the buyers instead of spending time on your personal agenda with the game because you are are either unwilling or too lazy to find a crowd or group of players that you could enjoy the game with is in a phrase: idiotic and self absorbed. I am not saying any of us are that way, I'm just sayin' "don't be that guy".

For me, regardless of how great gameplay gets, it's not a true sim experience without presentation and the like that goes into dynasty, so I would be crushed if something like intros were removed. Before them, every time it went straight to the coin flip I got really annoyed at the missing ingredient to getting ready for the game. And I do watch them every time.

However thats not what most (if any) of the head to head guys play for. They play for stats.

JerzeyReign
05-15-2011, 08:43 AM
I'm starting a 'Untie Denard Robinson's Shoelaces Or No Peace' movement:) Anybody wanna bitch with me?

Deuce
05-15-2011, 09:36 AM
I don't believe that if you were GETTING a true sim experience as you claim to want, that you would be complaining about the ultra ai "exploits" that people are "continually taking advantage of" online. I also don't believe that if you were WANTING that true experience, that you would continue to play in a place that would have to "force" players to play more realistically. Now that I play in a league at TSO, I understand that a sim experience is about more than just playing a perfectly put together AI football game against another user. Its about respecting the game for what is fair and what is not based on the exploits of the game, pitting that against the physical rules of real life football and playing at a level that doesn't abuse that edge. Oh yeah, and still finding a way to win.

Could things be better? Yeah they could and I want EA to know how they could do that as much as anyone! I put in my 2cents all the time on things that would help the game and the series become closer to a real life game.

Am I gonna whine till my head falls off about the fact that I can't get a decent game of football with the "east wing guys" cause they exploit the game too much based on its ai flaws and therefore threaten to not buy the game until 'x, y and z' are fixed?:

No!!!

Point is, it's a video game so no matter how good the game gets, exploits will be available. Those that care only about wins will find a way to exploit the game to benefit them. Those that care about how the game is played will avoid that when it doesn't fit a real life situation. Point blank, period, end of story.

Getting all worked up over EA spending their time to please more than 50% of the buyers instead of spending time on your personal agenda with the game because you are are either unwilling or too lazy to find a crowd or group of players that you could enjoy the game with is in a phrase: idiotic and self absorbed. I am not saying any of us are that way, I'm just sayin' "don't be that guy".

For me, regardless of how great gameplay gets, it's not a true sim experience without presentation and the like that goes into dynasty, so I would be crushed if something like intros were removed. Before them, every time it went straight to the coin flip I got really annoyed at the missing ingredient to getting ready for the game. And I do watch them every time.

However thats not what most (if any) of the head to head guys play for. They play for stats.

Great post. It's funny b/c I have never been a presentation guy or really care about how 'pretty' the game looks. Being married with 2 kids really limits my time with the game. So going straight to coin flip and skipping all cut scenes was how I wanted it. Getting in as many games as possible was my goal. NCAA 11 showed me I was wrong. I've feel presentation DOES affect gameplay. Not literally...but in the sense that it makes the gameplay more fun b/c I'm more into the game b/c of the what presentation adds to the realism. Even with a generic entrance for my team I prolly watched the entire entrance 75% of the time.

Cipher 8
05-15-2011, 10:56 AM
I've never really done a complete coach mode, but it could be interesting to do an online dynasty using that format.

I like the recruiting portion of the dynasty mode more than anything so doing a dynasty like this would allow me to get through the games faster + brings a nice broadcast style and feel of actually watching the game play out which could be neat. I'll probably do at least one side-dynasty like this in NCAA Football 12. Just to get my recruiting fix in and take full advantage of the awesome presentation in this years game.

psusnoop
05-16-2011, 12:14 PM
I like the recruiting portion of the dynasty mode more than anything so doing a dynasty like this would allow me to get through the games faster + brings a nice broadcast style and feel of actually watching the game play out which could be neat. I'll probably do at least one side-dynasty like this in NCAA Football 12. Just to get my recruiting fix in and take full advantage of the awesome presentation in this years game.

I'm thinking real hard about getting in one like this as well. Could be interesting to try and hey if it isn't my cup of team so be it, but I want to atleast try it out. I enjoy the recruiting as well, and would like to see how things pan out just coaching the kids up a little bit. I could see myself yelling even more at the game though too.

gschwendt
05-18-2011, 10:28 AM
A couple of video clips from Friday's uStream:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9gJ81wA704

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfRYbkMdq8U

psusnoop
05-18-2011, 03:03 PM
Be cool if there was a way in dynasty to watch user vs user games. I know psuexv and I, and Oneback has as well streamed them and it was a blast to watch the games.

xMrHitStickx904
05-18-2011, 03:18 PM
yeah, a spectator mode without lagging the people playing would be incredible . shameless plug here, but I need friends on PSN. just got a ps3, its xMrHitStickx757, add please lol.

JBHuskers
05-18-2011, 03:19 PM
yeah, a spectator mode without lagging the people playing would be incredible . shameless plug here, but I need friends on PSN. just got a ps3, its xMrHitStickx757, add please lol.

I want that mode as well, but there is a LOT that goes into it to it work right; which is why it hasn't made the cutting room floor.

psusnoop
05-18-2011, 03:26 PM
Oh for it is a pipedream, but something that would be awesome!!

Add psusnoop hitsticks

Jayrah
05-18-2011, 05:39 PM
A couple of video clips from Friday's uStream:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9gJ81wA704

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfRYbkMdq8U

Looking at the diving catching again, I'm really surprised that there was no defensive dive "bat away" animation added to match and defend the diving catch animation. I'm a little disappointed there will not be a viable defense vs this technique.

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xGRIDIRONxGURUx
05-18-2011, 06:23 PM
if you are trailing and the dive animation triggers and they catch the ball then you would still miss it anyways... ive looked at it this way... if someone WANTS to dive and catch it, ill allow them, they are down there, and as long as you keep the flats covered with the upgraded zone it wont be that bad... thats the only places i can see someone really dropping darts for them to dive and catch it perfect'ish like in the video... just my 2 cents

"E"

Jayrah
05-19-2011, 04:49 AM
if you are trailing and the dive animation triggers and they catch the ball then you would still miss it anyways... ive looked at it this way... if someone WANTS to dive and catch it, ill allow them, they are down there, and as long as you keep the flats covered with the upgraded zone it wont be that bad... thats the only places i can see someone really dropping darts for them to dive and catch it perfect'ish like in the video... just my 2 cents

"E"

So what though?! The offense gets an extra 1 or 2 yards to make up ground while the defender is helpless but to watch.

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xGRIDIRONxGURUx
05-19-2011, 08:01 AM
i dont understand... the one or two times i have seen it with a defender there he doesnt stop running, he is just trailing so bad he doesnt have time to catch up to it...

"E"

oweb26
05-19-2011, 09:31 AM
yeah, a spectator mode without lagging the people playing would be incredible . shameless plug here, but I need friends on PSN. just got a ps3, its xMrHitStickx757, add please lol.


You can add me oweb2 on both consoles PS3 and Xbox 360, Put TGT in the subject or something.

Jayrah
05-20-2011, 12:13 AM
i dont understand... the one or two times i have seen it with a defender there he doesnt stop running, he is just trailing so bad he doesnt have time to catch up to it...

"E"

Again, so what? I just want to see an effort from my defender :D LOL. However contrary to the videos, what about when the defender is even with the guy, and could get there, but the offense is the only one with the animation to get to it? Maybe it's not so prevalent in the videos so far, but I guarantee there will be an important catch that will be made that should have been defended and couldn't be, in just about everyone's dynasty.

I guess this will make up for the past 7 years of super lbs making plays they shouldn't have :D:D:D:D

rhombic21
05-21-2011, 10:31 AM
i dont understand... the one or two times i have seen it with a defender there he doesnt stop running, he is just trailing so bad he doesnt have time to catch up to it...

"E"
There's one instance in the Missou-OK State game video where the receiver catches a slant and the LB completely stops chasing him for a second. It looked like a user error initially because there was a sudden jerking animation that took the LB completely out of the play, but then if you go back and watch it the player is completely AI controlled.

It was clearly some kind of glitch.

EDIT: Didn't read the initial post clearly enough. Thought you were talking about something else.

Jayrah
05-21-2011, 08:00 PM
There's one instance in the Missou-OK State game video where the receiver catches a slant and the LB completely stops chasing him for a second. It looked like a user error initially because there was a sudden jerking animation that took the LB completely out of the play, but then if you go back and watch it the player is completely AI controlled.

It was clearly some kind of glitch.

EDIT: Didn't read the initial post clearly enough. Thought you were talking about something else.

yeah that was weird. notice ben didnt comment on it lol