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JBHuskers
02-23-2011, 01:01 PM
Cam Newton signs with Under Armour, and the stock goes down 4.6% today....OOOPS

steelerfan
02-23-2011, 01:10 PM
James Harrison and Hines Ward have undergone successful surgeries and Lamarr Woodley got the Franchise Tag. The rest of the offseason is TBD by the CBA.

JBHuskers
02-23-2011, 01:24 PM
Thank god Rooney is against an 18-game schedule. That could get some traction with other owners hopefully.

morsdraconis
02-23-2011, 02:12 PM
Thank god Rooney is against an 18-game schedule. That could get some traction with other owners hopefully.

It won't. No way. 18 game schedule is most definitely happening unless there isn't a NFL season to speak of.

JBHuskers
02-23-2011, 02:18 PM
It won't. No way. 18 game schedule is most definitely happening unless there isn't a NFL season to speak of.

Maybe Duerson's suicide will shake some sense into the owners.

steelerfan
02-23-2011, 02:29 PM
I'm not sure the 18-game season is anything more than a threat. We'll see, but I don't think it happens. I think it's something the owners will "concede" to make the Union feel like they "won" something when, in fact, they didn't. Though some players seem willing to concede that facet of the negotiations as well.

jaymo76
02-25-2011, 10:34 PM
I'm not sure the 18-game season is anything more than a threat. We'll see, but I don't think it happens. I think it's something the owners will "concede" to make the Union feel like they "won" something when, in fact, they didn't. Though some players seem willing to concede that facet of the negotiations as well.

I don't know Steeler. One more regular season home date as compared to an exhibition game is a MASSIVE revenue generator. For the owners it's about the bottom line and this will be huge for a lot of teams.

steelerfan
02-26-2011, 01:24 AM
I don't know Steeler. One more regular season home date as compared to an exhibition game is a MASSIVE revenue generator. For the owners it's about the bottom line and this will be huge for a lot of teams.

It's only a revenue generator in terms of TV (which is massive, I know). And, not all owners believe it's good or only see dollar signs. I feel like it's posturing, but if the owners don't get back a sizeable chunk of what they gave up in the last CBA they will insist on it. I just have a feeling that the owners are going to win this time around and concede 18 game scheduling. Gut feeling.

jaymo76
02-26-2011, 07:04 PM
If the 18 game season is a go would the season still start at the same time or would the season start two weeks early in late August?

JeffHCross
02-26-2011, 08:13 PM
I actually don't think anybody knows right now, jaymo, and I think that's one of the subjects up for discussion. The Daytona 500 moved itself out a week (http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/story/Daytona-500-moved-on-2012-NASCAR-Sprint-Cup-schedule-022011) to avoid any potential conflict if the Super Bowl was moved later though.

steelerfan
02-27-2011, 01:30 AM
The NFL has avoided Labor Day weekend for a while now because the ratings always lagged. The season would start at the same time as it has been, I'm sure.

JBHuskers
02-28-2011, 01:47 PM
Saw on Twitter that some agent got cuffed for being at the combine when he was banned :D

JBHuskers
02-28-2011, 02:06 PM
Story of above...

Report: Pat Dye was the agent handcuffed at the NFL Combine for illegally attending the combine - http://bit.ly/AgentCombine

morsdraconis
02-28-2011, 02:48 PM
Awesome. Fuck those greedy bastards!

psusnoop
03-01-2011, 07:44 AM
Awesome. Fuck those greedy bastards!

I couldn't agree more.

psuexv
03-01-2011, 12:13 PM
So apparently the NFLPA is de-unionizing so they can sue the NFL. CLW - is this going to work?

JBHuskers
03-01-2011, 01:33 PM
So apparently the NFLPA is de-unionizing so they can sue the NFL. CLW - is this going to work?

I love how TGT has a resident lawyer :up: :nod:

psuexv
03-01-2011, 03:31 PM
I love how TGT has a resident lawyer :up: :nod:

It will be good resource for Snoop's next sexual harassment case :smh:

psusnoop
03-01-2011, 07:26 PM
hahaha, I might lean on CLW more in the future but I swear it was consensual :whoa:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQYyYyaMhX4

steelerfan
03-02-2011, 08:10 PM
Vernon Gholston - biggest defensive bust ever?

Hard to argue with the stats.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/01/vernon-gholston-an-unprecedented-nfl-draft-bust/

HawkFan
03-04-2011, 02:58 PM
Saw yesterday that Bob Sanders signed a one year deal with the Chargers. Being a Charger fan and an Iowa fan I like this a lot. But being a realist I know that four or five games into it he's going to get hurt for the season.

morsdraconis
03-04-2011, 03:01 PM
Since no one has posted it, they extended the deadline until March 11th at 11:59pm. (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=ApMO8fj3UktgQxpuiIs0kKo5nYcB?slug=ap-nfllabor)

This shit is just getting ridiculous now. Next thing you know, they'll just extend it until 2012.

HawkFan
03-04-2011, 03:06 PM
Since no one has posted it, they extended the deadline until March 11th at 11:59pm. (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=ApMO8fj3UktgQxpuiIs0kKo5nYcB?slug=ap-nfllabor)

This shit is just getting ridiculous now. Next thing you know, they'll just extend it until 2012.

True, I would love to say that I am more optimistic about things now, but I think they are both trying to pull each others chains and am trying to make the other blink first and this shit is going to end up effecting fans before anyone else.

steelerfan
03-04-2011, 05:38 PM
True, I would love to say that I am more optimistic about things now, but I think they are both trying to pull each others chains and am trying to make the other blink first and this shit is going to end up effecting fans before anyone else.

Umm, the people not getting paychecks will be affected more than any fan. And I'm not talking about the players.

HawkFan
03-04-2011, 05:42 PM
Umm, the people not getting paychecks will be affected more than any fan. And I'm not talking about the players.

Please enlighten me. I guess I see concession stand guys and gals, but front office people, ticket office people, etc should all still be working shouldn't they. I mean I am not trying to be a dick about it, especially since two weeks ago I lost my job and know how it feels. But that is something else I have not thought of.

steelerfan
03-04-2011, 05:52 PM
Please enlighten me. I guess I see concession stand guys and gals, but front office people, ticket office people, etc should all still be working shouldn't they. I mean I am not trying to be a dick about it, especially since two weeks ago I lost my job and know how it feels. But that is something else I have not thought of.

Several teams (I'm preeeety sure the Jets and Chiefs are among them) have either laid off several employees or are forcing them to take an unpaid week off every month. A lot of those people are "Regular Joes".

HawkFan
03-04-2011, 05:54 PM
I had not heard that, and that sucks. Just goes to show that their are bigger things in this world than missing a couple of football games, their are average people wondering where their next paycheck will come from.

steelerfan
03-04-2011, 06:02 PM
I had not heard that, and that sucks. Just goes to show that their are bigger things in this world than missing a couple of football games, their are average people wondering where their next paycheck will come from.

Yep. But I saw where you were coming from and didn't think you were being a dick. :)

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/31/chiefs-lay-off-eleven-including-pete-moris/

psusnoop
03-07-2011, 07:51 AM
Love the tape of name, good stuff good sense of humor given the situation.

jaymo76
03-08-2011, 12:12 AM
Heard on ESPN today that the 18 game schedule has now moved into the realm of possibility for the players...

psusnoop
03-08-2011, 07:24 AM
Heard on ESPN today that the 18 game schedule has now moved into the realm of possibility for the players...

Interesting, wonder what they are getting in return?

morsdraconis
03-11-2011, 05:50 PM
NFLPA decertifies. The beginning of the end for the NFLPA and probably the 2011 season.

JeffHCross
03-11-2011, 07:33 PM
never mind.

steelerfan
03-12-2011, 08:16 AM
never mind.

Agreed.

jaymo76
03-12-2011, 12:14 PM
So what is the over under for football in September???? Honestly, I can see a huge possibility for a greatly shrtened season.

JeffHCross
03-12-2011, 03:26 PM
At this very moment, I'm confident we'll have a season of full length. To me, there's too much money on the table for there to not be an agreement.

steelerfan
03-12-2011, 03:28 PM
At this very moment, I'm confident we'll have a season of full length. To me, there's too much money on the table for there to not be an agreement.

That's exactly what I think.

psusnoop
03-12-2011, 04:53 PM
I agree Jeff and Steelerfan. Way to much money

lilheavy
03-16-2011, 05:47 PM
NFL talks hits, potential rules changes (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6223700&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines)


ILLEGAL HITS
NFL to be more aggressive with suspensions for illegal hits next season. Rules defining defenseless players expanded to eight categories:

• QB in act of throwing
• Receiver trying to catch pass
• Runner in grasp with forward progress stopped
• Player fielding punt or kickoff
• Kicker or punter during kick
• QB after change of possession
• Receiver who receives blind-side block
• Player already on ground

KICKOFF CHANGES?
• Competition committee will propose moving kickoff to 35-yard line, and bringing touchback out to 25. No changes for touchbacks on any other plays, with ball coming out to 20.
• No player other than kicker would be allowed to line up more than 5 yards behind ball.
• Outlawing wedge on kickoffs; all blocking wedges were reduced to two players in 2009.

REPLAY CHANGES?
• Committee will propose making all scoring plays reviewable. Replay official would order replays on any touchdowns, field goals, safeties and extra points without the coaches needing to challenge. Similar to current system for final two minutes of each half and overtime.
• Eliminating third coach's challenge if he is successful on first two.

NFL SCHEDULE
NFL plans to release regular-season schedule in mid-April, despite current work stoppage.

NO-GO
There will be no "Calvin Johnson rule" proposal on what is a catch.

SmoothPancakes
03-25-2011, 10:56 AM
Calling our resident lawyer(s). Any chance that this guy has a potentially successful case?

And if he were to win, that makes me wonder if we will then be about to see thousands of lawsuits from all over the country from other PSL owners for all teams filing suits.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6257263


CLEVELAND -- A Cleveland Browns fan sued the NFL and its teams over the player lockout, claiming it violated his contract to buy tickets through his personal seat license.

Ken Lanci, a self-made millionaire who ran unsuccessfully last year for the top county government job in Cleveland, filed the lawsuit Thursday in Cuyahoga County Common Pleas Court.

"It's a fight between billionaires and millionaires," Lanci said Friday in a phone interview. "There isn't any sympathy for multimillionaires. It's just not going to happen. And somebody has to stand up and say, 'Enough's enough.' "

The lawsuit asked for damages of more than $25,000 from the Browns on both breach of contract and bad faith counts and more than $25,000 from the league and its teams for alleged contract interference.

Neal Gulkis, a Browns spokesman, referred questions to the league.

NFL spokesman Greg Aiello told The Associated Press in an e-mail that the league had not seen the lawsuit but understood fans' frustration.

"NFL clubs all have announced refund policies to protect fans during the work stoppage," Aiello wrote. "The best solution to Mr. Lanci's concern is for the union to return to the bargaining table and complete a labor agreement that will put the game back on the field where it belongs."

The lawsuit also asked for any additional unspecified damages that the court considers fair.

The case was assigned to Judge John P. O'Donnell. The league and teams have four weeks to respond in court.

Lanci claimed that the lockout denies him the right under the personal seat licenses to go to Browns games and has destroyed the value of the seat-license agreement.

The lawsuit claims the NFL and its teams have "conspired with the Browns and one another to lock out the players, without justification, resulting in the Browns' breach of the PSL agreement."

The NFL hasn't lost games to a work stoppage since 1987, when a strike shortened the season and some games included nonunion replacement players.

The main sticking point in negotiations leading up to the lockout was how to divide the NFL's more than $9 billion in annual revenues.

morsdraconis
03-25-2011, 11:48 AM
Yes, he has a VERY good case. More fans need to do this to say FUCK the NFL and those greedy bastards (the players just as much as the owners, but the players that much more).

steelerfan
03-25-2011, 11:53 AM
I'm no attorney, but this guy is wasting his time.

JBHuskers
03-25-2011, 12:14 PM
Ken Lanci, a self-made millionaire who ran unsuccessfully last year for the top county government job in Cleveland, filed the lawsuit Thursday in Cuyahoga County Common Pleas Court.

"It's a fight between billionaires and millionaires," Lanci said Friday in a phone interview. "There isn't any sympathy for multimillionaires. It's just not going to happen. And somebody has to stand up and say, 'Enough's enough.' "



But yet...he's a millionaire :rolleyes: enjoy lighting your money on fire.

steelerfan
03-25-2011, 12:24 PM
But yet...he's a millionaire :rolleyes: enjoy lighting your money on fire.

Yep. This is a fight between billionaires and millionaire. Lame.

I mean you're upset that you might miss some Browns football? :D :D :D

jaymo76
03-25-2011, 05:50 PM
Yep. This is a fight between billionaires and millionaire. Lame.

I mean you're upset that you might miss some Browns football? :D :D :D

Being a Raiders fan I will be extremely upset if the season is lost. Key questions will go unanswered... like:

1. How many coaches will Al Davis fire?
2. How many draft picks that AL Davis draft turn out as busts?
3. How many threats will Al Davis issue about moving the team?
4. How many emails will Al Davis and his marketing team send me about getting season tickets? (even though I live in Vcr, Canada...)
5. How many times will Al Davis sue his own current and former employees? etc. etc. etc


I NEEED my Raiders football.

steelerfan
03-25-2011, 06:42 PM
Being a Raiders fan I will be extremely upset if the season is lost. Key questions will go unanswered... like:

1. How many coaches will Al Davis fire?
2. How many draft picks that AL Davis draft turn out as busts?
3. How many threats will Al Davis issue about moving the team?
4. How many emails will Al Davis and his marketing team send me about getting season tickets? (even though I live in Vcr, Canada...)
5. How many times will Al Davis sue his own current and former employees? etc. etc. etc


I NEEED my Raiders football.

:D :D :D :D :D

At least he's not THE worst owner in the league!

JeffHCross
03-25-2011, 09:55 PM
Honestly, I look at that and I'm just reminded how much I despise PSLs.

ram29jackson
03-28-2011, 01:03 AM
I honestly dont mind if they start a season with scabs.

eventually the players will just have to give in and get their millions and shut up

JBHuskers
03-31-2011, 01:12 PM
From Mort:

Chad Pennington can't catch a break, needs ACL surgery after injury in pick-up basketball game.

psusnoop
04-04-2011, 10:54 AM
From Mort:

Chad Pennington can't catch a break, needs ACL surgery after injury in pick-up basketball game.

This guy is more injury prone then I don't know what. Geez, take a break sit on a rocking chair and smile at all the money you made in the NFL.

JBHuskers
04-04-2011, 10:57 AM
This guy is more injury prone then I don't know what. Geez, take a break sit on a rocking chair and smile at all the money you made in the NFL.

He'd still pully a hammy doing that!

psusnoop
04-04-2011, 11:22 AM
Isn't that the truth, the only person alive that push down a lazyboy recliner and tear his rotator cuff

JBHuskers
04-04-2011, 06:54 PM
You have a lockout, and now all of a sudden NFL Players doing more illegal things :D (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6292476)

psusnoop
04-04-2011, 07:16 PM
You have a lockout, and now all of a sudden NFL Players doing more illegal things :D (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6292476)

What in the world was the miscommunication at 530am?

JBHuskers
04-04-2011, 11:53 PM
What in the world was the miscommunication at 530am?

He probably didn't pay for the $1.99 steak and eggs.

psusnoop
04-05-2011, 07:21 AM
yum, steak and eggs.......

psusnoop
04-05-2011, 07:44 AM
He probably didn't pay for the $1.99 steak and eggs.


An Indiana gaming agent saw Vrabel taking "bottles of alcohol from a deli" without paying for them, Indiana Gaming Commissioner Director of Enforcement Kenny Rowan told KMBC 9 in Kansas City.

steelerfan
04-05-2011, 02:45 PM
An Indiana gaming agent saw Vrabel taking "bottles of alcohol from a deli" without paying for them, Indiana Gaming Commissioner Director of Enforcement Kenny Rowan told KMBC 9 in Kansas City.

This shows you how much NFL players are suffering during this crisis. We should start a charity.

Feed the Athletes...

"In a down economy, with greedy owners refusing to "Let Us Play", it is heartbreaking to see the athletes struggling to put enough alcohol in the bloodstreams of their entourage on these lavish casino excursions. How can we just stand by and let them, their baby mommas, their siblings, their cousins, their childhood buddies all go sober at the roulette wheel? YOU can help. Call the number at the bottom of the screen and tell Feed the Athletes that you want you want to sponsor an athlete. For just $100 a day, about the cost of a tank of gas, you can make sure that these innocent athletes, and their entire posses, never have to go sober again. When you give to Feed the Athletes, you'll receive an autographed picture* of the athlete you've sponsored and you'll get regular police reports to track your athlete's progress. Call today. Make sure that no athlete, and no one he supports, ever has to be sober again."

*signature reproduced

JBHuskers
04-19-2011, 07:17 PM
They better get a deal done now!!!

Jets, Giants set to open '11 on 9/11

JeffHCross
04-19-2011, 11:07 PM
Jets, Giants set to open '11 on 9/11I'm honestly not sure how I feel about that.

steelerfan
04-19-2011, 11:58 PM
I'm honestly not sure how I feel about that.

Don't let the terrorists win, Jeff!! ;)

morsdraconis
04-20-2011, 01:03 AM
:D

That's awful steeler. That's awful.

JBHuskers
04-20-2011, 11:46 AM
:D

Report: Ryan Mallett blows off the Panthers after night out - http://bit.ly/MallettSkips

morsdraconis
04-20-2011, 12:09 PM
That's the only place reporting that he skipped it because he was sick from partying. Everywhere else is just reporting that he skipped it because he was sick (possibly food poisoning).

JBHuskers
04-20-2011, 12:37 PM
Did someone tell him it's the Wonderlic test, not the Wonderliquor? :D

JeffHCross
04-24-2011, 09:08 PM
NFL Network just named Jerry Rice the greatest NFL player of all-time. #2 Jim Brown, #3 Lawrence Taylor.

JBHuskers
04-25-2011, 08:24 AM
That hooker LT picked up must have bumped him up a notch or two.

jaymo76
04-25-2011, 06:41 PM
:D

Report: Ryan Mallett blows off the Panthers after night out - http://bit.ly/MallettSkips

I am a real sceptic of Mallet and his abilities. I see him being a major NFL bust. I can't put a finger on the why but I just don't see it happening for him. Now he won't be as big of a bust (tonugue in cheek) as Jamarcus Russell but that's not saying much.

steelerfan
05-05-2011, 10:16 AM
Just heard that NFL Network's broadcast team for Thursday Night Football will be Brad Nessler and Mike Mayock.

JBHuskers
05-05-2011, 11:22 AM
Just heard that NFL Network's broadcast team for Thursday Night Football will be Brad Nessler and Mike Mayock.

That ain't so bad!

morsdraconis
05-05-2011, 12:10 PM
Interesting. Mayock is quite good at talking about the intricacies of football. Hopefully he's like Jaws is on Monday Night Football with his intelligent additions to the game by semi-breaking down what just happened at key moments.

Brad Nessler is great. Definitely nothing wrong with him.

I might actually watch Thursday Night Football now.

steelerfan
05-05-2011, 12:57 PM
Yeah, I think it will be interesting to hear Nessler call an NFL game.

jaymo76
05-06-2011, 02:12 AM
Yeah, I think it will be interesting to hear Nessler call an NFL game.

Also looking forward to that... kind of lame for post 1000... I'll do better for 2000

steelerfan
05-06-2011, 10:50 AM
Also looking forward to that... kind of lame for post 1000... I'll do better for 2000

Agreeing with steelerfan ALWAYS makes for a good post. ;)

psusnoop
05-06-2011, 12:19 PM
Agreeing with steelerfan ALWAYS makes for a good post. ;)

LOL, some might find that debatable. Hmmm, I can't think of any though HAHAHA

JBHuskers
05-16-2011, 12:43 PM
According to Rotoworld, Carson Palmer just sold his Cincy house. (as if the writing wasn't already on the wall)

psuexv
05-16-2011, 12:47 PM
According to Rotoworld, Carson Palmer just sold his Cincy house. (as if the writing wasn't already on the wall)

Yeah Steve Smith also sold his house in Carolina... I don't think it means anything.

steelerfan
05-16-2011, 01:21 PM
Yeah Steve Smith also sold his house in Carolina... I don't think it means anything.

Maybe Palmer for Smith. :P

ram29jackson
05-19-2011, 09:11 PM
I havent looked at NFL news lately. Are they working on something or not ?

i'm fine with scabs for the first month of the season if thats what it takes

morsdraconis
05-19-2011, 10:57 PM
I havent looked at NFL news lately. Are they working on something or not ?

i'm fine with scabs for the first month of the season if thats what it takes

It won't be scabs. It'll just be nothing.

At the moment, the players are in a real bind. The last ruling by the real judge basically said, "The players have no leverage for what they are trying to do." At the moment, Dee Smith looks like a moron, but, supposedly, progress was made with the last meeting between the two sides on Monday. How much? Not sure, but, one thing is crystal clear, the players are losing whatever foothold they thought they had on the situation. The owners have billions of dollars set aside. They could live without football for a month or two. The football players, on the other hand, can not. Especially all the high profile free agents that can't do shit until a new CBA is agreed upon (or the lockout is lifted, which is not likely at all).

jaymo76
05-21-2011, 02:36 PM
Nothing will be happening until at least July when the TV $$$$ case is resolved. If the players win that everything will change. If the owners win... no football in September or possibly the season???

morsdraconis
05-21-2011, 06:44 PM
Nothing will be happening until at least July when the TV $$$$ case is resolved. If the players win that everything will change. If the owners win... no football in September or possibly the season???

It's highly likely that if the players don't get their way with the TV money (not very likely at all) that there won't be a season at all unless the two sides work something out.

As of right now, it's almost guaranteed that the owners hold all of the cards at the negotiation table (besides the ability to get the players to actually agree to a decent setup for the CBA).

The main issue, supposedly, is the fact that the owners don't want to completely open their books to the players in showing how much each owner is making. The players want full disclosure of how much money each organization is making, how much they're spending on stadium upkeep, how much their paying in salaries to employees, and such and the owners are basically telling them how much the completely open books of the Green Bay Packers show (marginal profits but nothing to significant) and saying that they're more than willing to let a third party go through their books but refused to allow the NFLPA (before they decertified to allow individual players to sue them, making them a non-entity now).

Me, personally, I think it makes perfect sense to not allow the NFLPA to go through the NFL teams' books. I mean, what company is going to allow it's employees' union reps to go through it's most sensitive financial information? None. It's a ridiculous notion that the NFLPA could think that they should have the ability to do that just as well when they could use it as negotiating tool.

jaymo76
05-22-2011, 04:25 PM
The only brightside to no season... my cable bill for Sunday ticket will be way, way cheaper. I think this situation in the courts will get uglier before it gets better.

psuexv
05-23-2011, 08:40 AM
Ray Lewis is an idiot
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81ff5759/article/lewis-watch-how-much-crime-picks-up-if-lockout-continues?campaign=Twitter_news


Ray Lewis hasn't been in the headlines during the longest work stoppage in NFL history, but that doesn't mean the man is without an opinion.

The longtime Baltimore Ravens linebacker said in an interview with ESPN that he believes the consequences of a lingering lockout will be negative and far-reaching.

"Do this research if we don't have a season -- watch how much evil, which we call crime, watch how much crime picks up, if you take away our game," Lewis said.

When asked why crime would increase, the 12-time Pro Bowl player said "there's nothing else to do."

It's unclear if Lewis was referencing crime perpetrated by NFL players or by people in general. Thirteen players have been arrested on various charges since the work stoppage officially began March 12, the most recent being Chicago Bears running back Garrett Wolfe, who faces multiple charges after he was arrested in Miami early Sunday morning.

Lewis spoke passionately about the lockout and believes the work stoppage comes down to egos that need to be checked.

"It's simple, we really got to remove pride. Seriously," he said.

"There's no other reason the issue is going on," he added. "That's why I don't get into words and all that other stuff, because it takes away from life ... itself. There's people who are really struggling for real. There's real struggles out there."

Lewis said he knows the lockout isn't something that affects just players, coaches and management.

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"There's too many people that live through us, people live through us," he said, referring to stadium workers, fans and other people tied to the league. "Yeah, walk in the streets, the way I walk the streets, and I'm not talking about the people you see all the time."

Lewis said he has texted DeMaurice Smith, telling the NFL Players Association head that he'd speak out under the right circumstances. Asked to elaborate, Lewis hinted his voice might soon be heard.

Lewis hasn't attended any of the mediation sessions or legal proceedings, but he left that door open.

"I'm not opposed to it," he said.

JBHuskers
05-23-2011, 04:12 PM
Ray isn't really all that off base. What do you think about those who are employed by those stadiums are going to turn to in order to make a living? It really isn't too off base, even though he did hold up a guy while he was being stabbed :D

jaymo76
05-23-2011, 06:53 PM
AH, don't you love role models/professional athletes. Our kids are in good hands... walks away and shakes head slowly...

steelerfan
05-23-2011, 07:26 PM
If the players are so worried about crime and Joe Fan, why don't they give in? This is a horrible attempt at propaganda. STFU Ray-Ray!

morsdraconis
05-23-2011, 09:22 PM
If the players are so worried about crime and Joe Fan, why don't they give in? This is a horrible attempt at propaganda. STFU Ray-Ray!

+1

Just more dumb ass mindless (and probably completely taken out of context or lead into talking about it by the reporter) drivel from a football player that doesn't use his mind for non-football related activities.

steelerfan
05-23-2011, 09:32 PM
+1

Just more dumb ass mindless (and probably completely taken out of context or lead into talking about it by the reporter) drivel from a football player that doesn't use his mind for non-football related activities.

The S&M Show (tm) ratings will plummet if we don't find some shit to disagree on soon. :P

morsdraconis
05-23-2011, 10:21 PM
The S&M Show (tm) ratings will plummet if we don't find some shit to disagree on soon. :P

Well, I can't help it if I don't much care for the Ravens either. They have this weird idea that they have some sort of "rivalry" with my beloved Redskins when, if anything, we should hate the Buccaneers and Seahawks (which I have a TERRIBLE story to tell about a group of fans at a Seahawks vs Redskins playoff game from a few years back that resulted in some seriously fucked up behavior to an elderly woman just trying to enjoy a football game) more than the meaningless Ravens.

As for our show, I'm sure we have a plenty of things to disagree on once we get outside of the realm of NCAA Football and NFL Football. ;)

JBHuskers
05-24-2011, 12:02 AM
The S&M Show (tm) ratings will plummet if we don't find some shit to disagree on soon. :P

No shit :smh: :fp:

psusnoop
05-24-2011, 07:44 AM
The S&M Show (tm) ratings will plummet if we don't find some shit to disagree on soon. :P

This can not happen, try harder guys.... :smh:

psusnoop
05-24-2011, 07:45 AM
I listened to it on the radio and got a completely different take on it then when I read through it. On the radio I didn't it was that bad, but reading it I thought it was. Hmmmm

steelerfan
05-24-2011, 08:48 AM
I listened to it on the radio and got a completely different take on it then when I read through it. On the radio I didn't it was that bad, but reading it I thought it was. Hmmmm

The part that struck a nerve with me was, "if you take away our game". Fuck you! Who do you think you're kidding? The players are as guilty as the owners! If there's no season, both parties are at fault. I don't like players trying to act like it's them and the fans against the owners. You don't hear owners running around saying, "those greedy players are trying to take away the game from the fans and us. Evil will be out of contol! Joe Fan and Ernie Owner will be left with nothing to do but commit horrendous crimes, OMG!"

psuexv
05-24-2011, 09:09 AM
I'd have to agree. As much as I don't want to see the owners take advantage of the players, this really gets to me. I can't sit here at my job and demand better benefits, I'd be shown the door. I truly despise unions and especially in our current economic state. Prime example - education budgets are being cut everywhere and Penn State announced they are freezing salaries, except for the union employees(janitors, groundsstaff, etc).... seriously, the person teaching our kids isn't getting paid but the person wiping up shit is?

I'm all about everyman making a fair wage and don't look down on anyone for the job that they do, but to me this is wrong.

psusnoop
05-24-2011, 10:22 AM
I'd have to agree. As much as I don't want to see the owners take advantage of the players, this really gets to me. I can't sit here at my job and demand better benefits, I'd be shown the door. I truly despise unions and especially in our current economic state. Prime example - education budgets are being cut everywhere and Penn State announced they are freezing salaries, except for the union employees(janitors, groundsstaff, etc).... seriously, the person teaching our kids isn't getting paid but the person wiping up shit is?

I'm all about everyman making a fair wage and don't look down on anyone for the job that they do, but to me this is wrong.

I agree Steelerfan, this isn't the NFLPA and Fans against the Owners even though this is being portrayed that way. This is just complete BS honestly, I mean how much is enough already?

psuexv, that is/was and will continue to be very disturbing to me. The union here at PSU is OUT OF CONTROL, and it is not going to get any better any time soon.

morsdraconis
05-24-2011, 10:36 AM
The part that struck a nerve with me was, "if you take away our game". Fuck you! Who do you think you're kidding? The players are as guilty as the owners! If there's no season, both parties are at fault. I don't like players trying to act like it's them and the fans against the owners. You don't hear owners running around saying, "those greedy players are trying to take away the game from the fans and us. Evil will be out of contol! Joe Fan and Ernie Owner will be left with nothing to do but commit horrendous crimes, OMG!"

Nah. It's the players, straight up man. The owners appear to have a legitimate gripe (the small city team owners) about not making enough money to support their ginormous financial investment. Even Daniel Snyder and Jerry Jones, who own the two most profitable NFL franchises in history, are paying outrageous mortgages for the stadium upgrades/new stadium they did in the past 10 years (not that they are hemorrhaging for money or anything but imagine how tough it must be for these far less profitable teams to make any money when they aren't selling out home games, much less so when they are trying to keep their stadiums from falling down around them).

As I said before, the opened books from Green Bay (publicly owned and therefore publicly accessed financial information) pointed toward not making very much money at all with the current split of the money from the previous CBA. And now, the players are wanting more money for retired players (since the average life of an NFL career is only 3 1/2 years with several years of possibly debilitating injuries to follow and VERY expensive medical bills) and the owners very much want to do that (they're not all heartless bastards) so that's more money going toward the players.

The whole problem is owners want a larger share of it for stadium maintenance costs (you can't count on two hands how many NFL stadiums need renovations) and normal operation costs. Inflation has increased the cost of operations quite a bit from the agreement made in '93 (even with the amendments that were made in '98 and '06, the slices of the pie weren't changed) so, in my opinion, the owners have a very legitimate gripe in wanting to get an increase in their shares of the money while, at the same time, the players have a legitimate gripe in wanting more money as well. The thing is though, the owners want to see the players be more intelligent with their money (like creating a 401k like setup that forces the players to save back money for retirement off of some of the more ginormous contracts that they receive). When you have players making incredibly stupid decisions with their money (or getting in trouble every time they turn around and having to shell it out for legal troubles of some type or another), it's hard to justify giving them MORE money to fuck up with.

skipwondah33
05-24-2011, 11:13 AM
Ray Lewis is an idiot
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81ff5759/article/lewis-watch-how-much-crime-picks-up-if-lockout-continues?campaign=Twitter_news
Not necessarily, he does have a point though his wording may not have been correct.

Athletes have hate and envy viewed upon them when their out in public in come circles. I would say most don't go out looking for trouble but the settings they go to trouble can happen, mostly because their are those who want to be them. For example a player could go out to a club with his friends, party it up having fun in VIP, have drinks etc. Meanwhile I guarantee a group a people will be on the sidelines hatin' that all the attention is towards that star. Next thing you know nothing but trouble happens because something is said, yada-yada. Hell this type of stuff happens even when you are not a star at nightclubs because so much wanna-be tough guys venture to them.

I don't know but without any structure that their use to or something to do week in and week out, I can see some players straying. They would spend more time with their friends and have nothing but time on their hands.

As it stands if you get in trouble there is no consequence other than the law which as we know can be lenient to athletes. You don't face any suspension or fine. Its funny I said the same thing to a co-worker of back in April. That players are going to keep getting in trouble if they don't get this lockout settled.

psuexv
05-24-2011, 11:17 AM
Not necessarily, he does have a point though his wording may not have been correct.

Athletes have hate and envy viewed upon them when their out in public in come circles. I would say most don't go out looking for trouble but the settings they go to trouble can happen, mostly because their are those who want to be them. For example a player could go out to a club with his friends, party it up having fun in VIP, have drinks etc. Meanwhile I guarantee a group a people will be on the sidelines hatin' that all the attention is towards that star. Next thing you know nothing but trouble happens because something is said, yada-yada. Hell this type of stuff happens even when you are not a star at nightclubs because so much wanna-be tough guys venture to them.

I don't know but without any structure that their use to or something to do week in and week out, I can see some players straying. They would spend more time with their friends and have nothing but time on their hands.

As it stands if you get in trouble there is no consequence other than the law which as we know can be lenient to athletes. You don't face any suspension or fine. Its funny I said the same thing to a co-worker of back in April. That players are going to keep getting in trouble if they don't get this lockout settled.

BS - He's still an idiot. Just because they are out of a job and have time on their hands they "excused" from obeying the law. I'm not saying that he's wrong in his statement, but I think he's an idiot because he feels "just" in being a criminal because the "man" won't let him work.

steelerfan
05-24-2011, 11:29 AM
I really think his statement was propaganda aimed at making Joe Fan feel like it's us against the owners. Nothing more, nothing less.

skipwondah33
05-24-2011, 11:40 AM
BS - He's still an idiot. Just because they are out of a job and have time on their hands they "excused" from obeying the law. I'm not saying that he's wrong in his statement, but I think he's an idiot because he feels "just" in being a criminal because the "man" won't let him work.
I didn't take it as him saying players will go out and cause trouble or be criminal. I took it as players will go out and party more, which could result in trouble whether they are to blame or not. I mean for shits sake even Mike Vrabel got involved into an incident.

Its amazing what you can get into with nothing but time on your hands and money at your disposal. There isn't drug testing or anything right now and no seemingly end to this lockout so I can only imagine how some of the players do to pass time.

if these guys aren't playing football which for some this is the only thing they know how to do well, then shit can happen.


I really think his statement was propaganda aimed at making Joe Fan feel like it's us against the owners. Nothing more, nothing less.

That too

psuexv
05-24-2011, 11:43 AM
I didn't take it as him saying players will go out and cause trouble or be criminal. I took it as players will go out and party more, which could result in trouble whether they are to blame or not. I mean for shits sake even Mike Vrabel got involved into an incident.

Its amazing what you can get into with nothing but time on your hands and money at your disposal. There isn't drug testing or anything right now and no seemingly end to this lockout so I can only imagine how some of the players do to pass time.

if these guys aren't playing football which for some this is the only thing they know how to do well, then shit can happen.


But will they really have money at their disposal. They won't be getting paid correct?

skipwondah33
05-24-2011, 11:51 AM
Ah thats right they won't be getting paid. I would imagine not everyone is "struggling: though in the finances department then again I know alot of players aren't making Tom Brady money either.

JBHuskers
05-24-2011, 02:02 PM
Jailbirds flock together :D

Vick: Burress would be 'great addition' to Eagles - http://bit.ly/VickPlax

CLW
05-24-2011, 03:00 PM
Crime will definitely go up if the NFL doesn't play football. I mean that frees up a complete extra day of the week for these players in the National Felons League to commit well more felonies. Therefore, crime will indeed go up if there is no NFL season.

Cody
06-04-2011, 12:31 PM
Crime will definitely go up if the NFL doesn't play football. I mean that frees up a complete extra day of the week for these players in the National Felons League to commit well more felonies. Therefore, crime will indeed go up if there is no NFL season.

Exactly. If you guys haven't noticed almost all of the arrests come during the off season.

Where do you guys think Plax will end up?

ram29jackson
06-04-2011, 04:12 PM
Nah. It's the players, straight up man. The owners appear to have a legitimate gripe (the small city team owners) about not making enough money to support their ginormous financial investment. Even Daniel Snyder and Jerry Jones, who own the two most profitable NFL franchises in history, are paying outrageous mortgages for the stadium As I said before, the opened The whole problem is owners (or getting in trouble every time they turn around and having to shell it out for legal troubles of some type or another), it's hard to justify giving them MORE money to fuck up with.

the owners dont need a gripe nor do small city owners lose anything. the NFL shares revenue and owners will always win. its about time for the players to shut up and give in and go play again because they arent getting crap. Owners always get more because they are in fact "owners ". they have real estate etc.
Plyers just have their legs and need a paycheck, new meat will get drafted and they dont need you. So,shut up, collect your million dollar one year contract and play and go home. Mors or someone said it cant happen but the fact is, if owners want to just hire some scabs to play, it can and will happen. its up the owners and the NFL and not up to some overpaid contracted player who walked out

ram29jackson
06-05-2011, 09:38 PM
well, if theres no season, theres always the NFL network to watch pro related stuff anyway haha.

and of course lots of college ball

Cody
06-05-2011, 09:45 PM
College ball will be all I watch if NFL is out.

SmoothPancakes
06-05-2011, 09:48 PM
Bah, who needs NFL. I'm been getting my football fix thanks to Aussie Rules Football every Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and Monday morning on ESPN3.

steelerfan
06-05-2011, 09:49 PM
Bah, who needs NFL.

Certainly no one in Ohio. ;)

SmoothPancakes
06-05-2011, 09:52 PM
Certainly no one in Ohio. ;)

If that's intended as a Bengals/Browns joke, I'm all good. Couldn't care less about those two teams. :)

ram29jackson
06-05-2011, 10:16 PM
with the Packers still having a chance to win again, I want to see it play out..and the Rams were improving too it appeared.

I dont want pro ball to be an afterthought like it was in the 1940s

steelerfan
06-05-2011, 10:45 PM
If that's intended as a Bengals/Browns joke, I'm all good. Couldn't care less about those two teams. :)

I know. You're a Broncos fan, right?

SmoothPancakes
06-05-2011, 10:53 PM
I know. You're a Broncos fan, right?

:nod:

Although it has been a rough couple of years lately. So when it comes to the Bengals and Browns, at least currently, I'm not exactly in a position to talk smack. :(

jaymo76
06-05-2011, 11:54 PM
Bah, who needs NFL. I'm been getting my football fix thanks to Aussie Rules Football every Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and Monday morning on ESPN3.

I know what you mean... that Aussie stuff is pretty addictive once you get the rules down. The 1am start times suck but what can you do. CFL, NCAA, NCAA 12... if need be I can get by with the NFL for awhile. I know my wife will be happy...

SmoothPancakes
06-06-2011, 12:31 AM
I know what you mean... that Aussie stuff is pretty addictive once you get the rules down. The 1am start times suck but what can you do. CFL, NCAA, NCAA 12... if need be I can get by with the NFL for awhile. I know my wife will be happy...

Yeah, when you first start watching Aussie Rules, it definitely can be very confusing, but like you said, once you get the rules down, it's addictive. Plus you get plenty of hits and tackling and action going on during the game. Sure, you're not going to see Ray Lewis level of intensity tackles (though the game I was watching last week had some nasty looking clotheslines), but they definitely don't sit out there playing pattycake or something. They hit, they tackle, and they will knock your ass on the ground to keep you from getting to the ball before them, or to keep you from having the chance of kicking a goal or a behind, and all of this in nothing but a sleeveless shirt and shorts, not a crap ton of pads like NFL players.

Yep, between Aussie Rules Football, college football (when they start up), NCAA 12, and even Madden 12, I really honestly would not miss watching NFL games on Sunday if it got to the point the entire season was canceled due to the lockout. Plus when it would get to that point, that deep into the season, you have NBA and NHL starting back up again, and college basketball starting to get underway. So there is plenty of other sports action going on to basically keep me occupied without an NFL season.

steelerfan
06-06-2011, 03:42 AM
:nod:

Although it has been a rough couple of years lately. So when it comes to the Bengals and Browns, at least currently, I'm not exactly in a position to talk smack. :(

Meh, I wasn't taking a shot at you, or the Broncos, buddy. I just have a tough time resisting the urge to crack on the Clowns and Bungles. :)

JBHuskers
06-06-2011, 08:52 AM
Plax leaves jail wearing a Phillies hat. I bet the jailbirds do play together.

SmoothPancakes
06-06-2011, 09:08 AM
Meh, I wasn't taking a shot at you, or the Broncos, buddy. I just have a tough time resisting the urge to crack on the Clowns and Bungles. :)

Oh trust me, I do too. :D My best friend, my dad, and my uncle are all Clowns fans, and the Bungles, well, they're just the Bungles. That's what makes it so hard right now with the current state of the Broncos. I used to make cracks to my friend every single day. Now that the Broncos currently suck worse, I can't do it anymore, at least not much. :(

steelerfan
06-06-2011, 10:13 AM
Oh trust me, I do too. :D My best friend, my dad, and my uncle are all Clowns fans, and the Bungles, well, they're just the Bungles. I used to make cracks to my friend every single day.

:easy:

:nod:

ram29jackson
06-06-2011, 05:50 PM
at least the Bengals have had a better recent modern history making it to the Super Bowl two times as opposed to Cleveland not being in a championship since the early sixties....aside from losing a couple AFC championships against the Broncos...I always want Kosar and Brennan to get in there....

cdj
06-08-2011, 12:41 PM
I don't think Tebow has missed any workouts during this lockout. (http://twitpic.com/58qzs3)

JBHuskers
06-08-2011, 01:12 PM
I don't think Tebow has missed any workouts during this lockout. (http://twitpic.com/58qzs3)

Is that a He-Man action figure? :D

steelerfan
06-08-2011, 01:58 PM
From the comments...


RealJamesR about an hour ago

Tebow looks like he's ready to make the move to MLB.


RealJamesR about an hour ago

I mean Middle Linebacker not baseball

Isn't either one applicable with the way Tebow looks? ;)

psuexv
06-08-2011, 02:01 PM
Either he has really been hitting the gym or he's going through a phase like I did a couple of years ago when I didn't have a girlfriend..... of course, just my right arm looked like that, he must be ambidextrous.

JBHuskers
06-08-2011, 02:10 PM
Jerking off is more than just a cardio workout....

psuexv
06-08-2011, 02:14 PM
Jerking off is more than just a cardio workout....

It's a full body and mind experience :nod:

Cody
06-08-2011, 03:35 PM
It's a full body and mind experience :nod:

:D

Tebow should be the receiver ;)

In Baseball he'd be a catcher or pitcher

ram29jackson
06-08-2011, 07:33 PM
haha for the record..we all knock guys for fun, but Tebow has a huge professional contract and could go down in history as one of the top 5 college players/QBs in history....what do you have?...oh yeah, he endorses underwear too...

steelerfan
06-08-2011, 08:50 PM
psuexv has been talking about one-handing his wife beater all day. WTF?

jaymo76
06-09-2011, 12:30 AM
I don't think Tebow has missed any workouts during this lockout. (http://twitpic.com/58qzs3)

Don't let the wives/girlfriends see this or we're all in serious, serious trouble!

psuexv
06-09-2011, 09:26 AM
haha for the record..we all knock guys for fun, but Tebow has a huge professional contract and could go down in history as one of the top 5 college players/QBs in history....what do you have?...oh yeah, he endorses underwear too...

I don't think anyone is knocking him but commenting on how freaking ripped he is.

iBrandon
06-09-2011, 09:59 AM
Either he has really been hitting the gym or he's going through a phase like I did a couple of years ago when I didn't have a girlfriend..... of course, just my right arm looked like that, he must be ambidextrous.
LOL!

oh yeah, he endorses underwear too...
I'd rather be able to filll my underwear like Tebow can then my fill my shirt

steelerfan
06-09-2011, 10:04 AM
I'd rather be able to filll my underwear like Tebow can then my fill my shirt

This statement makes me very uncomfortable.

JBHuskers
06-09-2011, 12:44 PM
Kenny Britt arrested again...what a dumbass.

psuexv
06-09-2011, 12:47 PM
Kenny Britt arrested again...what a dumbass.

Ray Lewis did say crime would go up :D

JBHuskers
06-09-2011, 12:48 PM
Ray Lewis did say crime would go up :D

...and people made fun of him for saying it. He is RIGHT! :D :D :D

steelerfan
06-09-2011, 12:57 PM
Actually, Britt gets arrested regardless of labor deals. ;)

skipwondah33
06-21-2011, 10:24 AM
...and people made fun of him for saying it. He is RIGHT! :D :D :D

I said he was from the get go. This certainly isn't helping.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81f6e32a/article/sixteen-players-arrested-since-lockout-started-march-12?module=HP_headlines

JBHuskers
06-21-2011, 12:55 PM
Kenny Britt says on Facebook that he's retiring and fuck Godell (he spelled it wrong :D)

How many days before he says his Facebook account was "hacked"? :D

skipwondah33
06-21-2011, 01:05 PM
He already said it was lol

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82069756/article/titans-britt-announces-retirement-online-the-retracts-post?module=HP_headlines

JBHuskers
06-21-2011, 04:08 PM
The whole hacked account thing has a) already been tried and b) when you are hacked they try to get your friends to click on a link....

They don't say specific things.

ram29jackson
06-22-2011, 02:39 AM
LOL!

I'd rather be able to filll my underwear like Tebow can then my fill my shirt


This statement makes me very uncomfortable.

maybe youre uncomfortable because you arent wearing the right underwear..like Tebow

ram29jackson
06-27-2011, 12:38 AM
CFL starts thurday night.

I'm sure I will watch it because for intents and purposes, it is football.

JBHuskers
06-27-2011, 08:29 AM
CFL starts thurday night.

I'm sure I will watch it because for intents and purposes, it is football.

Where on TV is that? Besides Canada.

morsdraconis
06-27-2011, 10:09 AM
Pretty sure ESPN shows games, if I'm not mistaken.

ram29jackson
06-27-2011, 04:18 PM
Where on TV is that? Besides Canada.

I forget which network, but you usually dont advertise unless youre the one showing it..it may have been espn

jaymo76
06-27-2011, 07:45 PM
I believe the NFL network is carrying 10-15 games this season though I'm not sure on the date or the games.

jaymo76
06-27-2011, 08:49 PM
http://cfl.ca/page/game_broadcast

Yup... NFL network (10 games). Here is the link.

Update: ESPN 3 may be broadcasting ALL of the games.

morsdraconis
06-27-2011, 09:11 PM
That's what I thought. The entire thing is on ESPN3.

SmoothPancakes
06-27-2011, 09:21 PM
Meh, give me the AFL any day. Far more exciting and far better hits and tackles (and clotheslines) than you'll see in the CFL.

ram29jackson
06-27-2011, 10:17 PM
Meh, give me the AFL any day. Far more exciting and far better hits and tackles (and clotheslines) than you'll see in the CFL.

..it seems like less strategy in that format and the uniforms suck too haha= not that great to me

SmoothPancakes
06-27-2011, 11:07 PM
..it seems like less strategy in that format and the uniforms suck too haha= not that great to me

Trust me, sleeveless tshirts and shorts look a hell of a lot better than some of the ugly ass uniforms in the CFL. Take St. Kilda for example:

http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200904/r363226_1679156.jpg

Nice, plain, and simple.

ram29jackson
06-27-2011, 11:30 PM
Trust me, sleeveless tshirts and shorts look a hell of a lot better than some of the ugly ass uniforms in the CFL. Take St. Kilda for example:

http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200904/r363226_1679156.jpg

Nice, plain, and simple.

um,..I thought AFL ment Arena football:D

quite frankly as violent as the sport is with or without pads its really stupid to play without pads. The Euros really need to drop some of their dark age sports :D
rugby and Austalian rules need to go :D

SmoothPancakes
06-28-2011, 12:18 AM
um,..I thought AFL ment Arena football:D

quite frankly as violent as the sport is with or without pads its really stupid to play without pads. The Euros really need to drop some of their dark age sports :D
rugby and Austalian rules need to go :D

Ever since the AFL shut down a couple years back and they got rid of the Colorado Crush, the Arena Football League doesn't exist to me. The only AFL I know and recognize is the Australian Football League.

And no, it's not that they need to drop some of their dark age sports. It's called the Europeans and Australians are tougher and aren't a bunch of giant massive pussies like Americans have become. Americans have become a bunch of weak ass pussy bitches who cry constantly because they got a scratch while playing a sport or doing something, it makes me sick. The route of everything in regards to sports and over protection of kids has lead to the pussification of kids and Americans as we see it today.

As a kid, I never once wore a helmet my entire life when riding a bike, I'd jump shit, do tricks, ride with no hands, ride backwards, etc. I'd jump off roofs into pools and climb all sorts of trees and other stuff, occasionally falling and landing hard on the ass. Sit there screwing around on the baseball field with friends, never using a helmet. Playing backyard football on concrete or in a parking lot. Do all sorts of "death defying" things. Even to this day, every year, the Sunday after Thanksgiving, a whole bunch of us from high school and college get together at one of the local HS football fields and play full contact/full tackle, 11 on 11 football, not a single pad in sight. Just jeans and a red or black colored shirt or hoodie to help separate teammates on the field.

It did nothing but make me tougher. Hell, I have a high as shit pain threshold these days thanks to all that. Back in high school playing football, broke my left arm one day, both bones, never felt a single thing. I tried to get right up and head back to the huddle after the whistle blew, like the coaches taught us. The coaches and other players had to forcibly hold me down on the ground and make me look at my arm to realize there was even anything wrong with it. Even today, at 24 years old, there is hardly a damn thing that I feel any pain from.

Same thing when it comes to germs and being exposed to shit. And to save myself from a couple more paragraphs of typing, I'll refer to George Carlin for the germ reasoning, as he says it better than I ever could.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnmMNdiCz_s

JBHuskers
06-28-2011, 12:18 AM
Trust me, sleeveless tshirts and shorts look a hell of a lot better than some of the ugly ass uniforms in the CFL. Take St. Kilda for example:

http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200904/r363226_1679156.jpg

Nice, plain, and simple.

I bet SmoothPancakes has this poster on his ceiling :nod:

jaymo76
06-28-2011, 01:02 AM
Meh, give me the AFL any day. Far more exciting and far better hits and tackles (and clotheslines) than you'll see in the CFL.

Well to be fair, the CFL & NFL both exclusively used Reebok patterned clothing and honestly the uniforms are pretty much cookie cutter style in both leagues. Man oh man, has this thread got off topic... now we're talking about Australian/Canadian/American clothing styles and the strength of national character :) lol

SmoothPancakes
06-28-2011, 01:06 AM
I bet SmoothPancakes has this poster on his ceiling :nod:

:fp:

No, just, no. Considering that is a picture I had never seen until I GIS'd it two hours ago simply to give a visual reference of AFL uniforms for ram, no JB.

SmoothPancakes
06-28-2011, 01:08 AM
Well to be fair, the CFL & NFL both exclusively used Reebok patterned clothing and honestly the uniforms are pretty much cookie cutter style in both leagues. Man oh man, has this thread got off topic... now we're talking about Australian/Canadian/American clothing styles and the strength of national character :) lol

Welcome to TGT, where no thread or topic is safe. :D

steelerfan
06-28-2011, 01:19 AM
Are the Calgary Radial Tires any good?

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JBHuskers
06-29-2011, 09:18 AM
DeSean Jackson isn't hurting with the lockout..... (http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2011/06/eagles-desean-jackson-spends-25k-at-the-club-twitpic-his-receipt/)

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/DeSean-Jackson-Receipt-224x300.jpg

Sinister
06-29-2011, 11:59 AM
DeSean Jackson isn't hurting with the lockout..... (http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2011/06/eagles-desean-jackson-spends-25k-at-the-club-twitpic-his-receipt/)

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/DeSean-Jackson-Receipt-224x300.jpg

46.00 for 8 bottles of water wowo.

SmoothPancakes
06-29-2011, 12:03 PM
46.00 for 8 bottles of water wowo.

Really not that bad. $5.75 for a single bottle, in LA. Here in NW Ohio, you're looking at over $3 for a single bottle just from a gas station, grocery store, or carryout store. Only a $2 difference between NW Ohio and Los Angeles, really not that bad, compared to the massive difference in prices on other stuff.

ram29jackson
06-29-2011, 04:50 PM
Are the Calgary Radial Tires any good?

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is that a new Hockey team ?

skipwondah33
06-29-2011, 05:14 PM
Really not that bad. $5.75 for a single bottle, in LA. Here in NW Ohio, you're looking at over $3 for a single bottle just from a gas station, grocery store, or carryout store. Only a $2 difference between NW Ohio and Los Angeles, really not that bad, compared to the massive difference in prices on other stuff.

I can get a 32 pack for $2.99 lol

ram29jackson
06-29-2011, 05:29 PM
Really not that bad. $5.75 for a single bottle, in LA. Here in NW Ohio, you're looking at over $3 for a single bottle just from a gas station, grocery store, or carryout store. Only a $2 difference between NW Ohio and Los Angeles, really not that bad, compared to the massive difference in prices on other stuff.

bad comparison- thats an overpriced restaurant. Water is of course much cheaper at a store..but yes, single larger bottles can be 2 dollars

JBHuskers
06-29-2011, 06:10 PM
I can get a 32 pack for $2.99 lol

Ditto :D

SmoothPancakes
06-29-2011, 06:21 PM
Ditto :D

Well I don't live in the middle of Bumfuck, Nebraska. ;) :P

ram29jackson
06-29-2011, 07:52 PM
Well I don't live in the middle of Bumfuck, Nebraska. ;) :P

its the middle of bumfuck Ohio, :D whats the difference?

SmoothPancakes
06-29-2011, 08:17 PM
its the middle of bumfuck Ohio, :D whats the difference?

Nah, that's actually the southern and SE part of Ohio, down near Kentucky and West Virginia, that is the middle of bumfuck Ohio.

JBHuskers
06-29-2011, 09:33 PM
:fp: you're all a bunch of bumfucks :D

morsdraconis
06-29-2011, 11:53 PM
Fuck all you bumfucks

JBHuskers
06-29-2011, 11:59 PM
Fuck all you bumfucks

:D :D :D

Fuck it dude, let's go bowling.

morsdraconis
06-30-2011, 12:52 AM
I really need to sit down and watch that movie again. I've only seen it once and I really didn't care for it, but I was tired and had a hard time keeping track of what was happening.

JBHuskers
06-30-2011, 12:57 AM
I really need to sit down and watch that movie again. I've only seen it once and I really didn't care for it, but I was tired and had a hard time keeping track of what was happening.

It has surpassed Top Gun as my favorite movie of all-time.

Cody
06-30-2011, 02:12 PM
Goodell and Smith meeting again today.

JBHuskers
06-30-2011, 02:17 PM
My guess is something gets done soon, we'll probably not have a pre-season.

psusnoop
07-01-2011, 08:23 AM
I really hope they hash this out quickly, I enjoy the preseason just to watch some of the younger guys on teams.

skipwondah33
07-01-2011, 09:56 AM
I've never really been a fan of preseason. I get excited the first preseason game they put on TV because I'm itching to watch football again..but then I'm ready for the season to start.

With that said I hope they get a deal done so there can be a preseason lol

ram29jackson
07-19-2011, 08:26 PM
The strike is over !!!!

and so are what use to be 2-a-days with pads

JBHuskers
07-21-2011, 05:12 PM
http://twitter.com/#!/AdamSchefter/status/94166880071327744


NFL could open facilities as early as Friday so players can use them to discuss issue and sign union cards needed for recertification.

JBHuskers
07-21-2011, 06:00 PM
NFL Network just reported that the owners are set to ratify the new CBA!

steelerfan
07-21-2011, 06:25 PM
The vote was 31-0 in favor of the new 10 year CBA. The Raiders abstained.

Al Davis is such a tool.

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JBHuskers
07-21-2011, 06:31 PM
The vote was 31-0 in favor of the new 10 year CBA. The Raiders abstained.

Al Davis is such a tool.

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:nod:

Players are set to meet in about 30 mins. I think....they still need to vote.

steelerfan
07-21-2011, 06:36 PM
:nod:

Players are set to meet in about 30 mins. I think....they still need to vote.

They do.

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ram29jackson
07-21-2011, 07:46 PM
the players cant afford to let it drag further

steelerfan
07-21-2011, 08:53 PM
the players cant afford to let it drag further

They won't.

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skipwondah33
07-21-2011, 10:46 PM
The players really need quit with the "we really want to play and get back to football, it's not us" crap. Like their the innocent ones in this. It is both sides.

SmoothPancakes
07-21-2011, 11:40 PM
The players really need quit with the "we really want to play and get back to football, it's not us" crap. Like their the innocent ones in this. It is both sides.

Amen! :+1:

ram29jackson
07-22-2011, 01:20 AM
Amen! :+1:

more like plus 1 million = player paycheck

SmoothPancakes
07-24-2011, 10:00 PM
Let's play football bitch! (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6797238/2011-nfl-lockout-owners-players-come-deal-all-points-sources-say)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO0lbi3PGFA

morsdraconis
07-24-2011, 10:07 PM
About damn time. Billionaires fighting over 6 billion dollars. Jesus christ...

psusnoop
07-25-2011, 07:54 AM
Breakdown of the NFL and when teams can report from Adam Schefter.

http://twitter.com/#!/AdamSchefter

JBHuskers
07-25-2011, 08:55 AM
Pryor might have to wait for his NFL chance :D (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6799228/terrelle-pryor-facing-uncertain-draft-status-report-says)

psusnoop
07-25-2011, 09:30 AM
Good for him, glad his career is off to the best start possible for this young man. :up:

SmoothPancakes
07-25-2011, 09:53 AM
Good for him, glad his career is off to the best start possible for this young man. :up:

:D

morsdraconis
07-25-2011, 10:13 AM
Let the offseason FINALLY begin!

JBHuskers
07-25-2011, 10:42 AM
Teams starting Training Camp Thursday: 49ers, Bengals, Buccaneers, Chiefs, Dolphins, Falcons, Lions, Redskins, Saints, Steelers

Teams Starting Camp Friday: Bears, Bills, Browns, Colts, Giants, Packers, Panthers, Rams, Titans, Vikings

Teams Starting Training Camp Sunday: Jets & Texans

SmoothPancakes
07-25-2011, 11:08 AM
Here's the newest timeline:


• Monday: The NFL will announce that teams can go to 90-man rosters and the official free-agent list will be distributed to teams.

• Tuesday: Teams can reach agreements with rookies and undrafted free agents beginning at 10 a.m. ET. Teams can reach agreements with all free agents and signed players are allowed to enter team facilities.

• Wednesday: Players can begin reporting to training camps 15 days before their first preseason games. According to the proposed timeline, 10 teams would report on Wednesday, 10 more on Thursday and 10 additional teams on Friday. The New York Jets and Houston Texans would be the last two teams to report, on Sunday.

• Thursday: Teams can begin to cut players at 4 p.m. ET.

• Friday: Teams can begin filing transactions to the league office at 6 p.m. ET.

• Aug. 4: Deadline for recertification and ratification of the collective bargaining agreement by the players.

SmoothPancakes
07-25-2011, 11:10 AM
Teams starting Training Camp Thursday: 49ers, Bengals, Buccaneers, Chiefs, Dolphins, Falcons, Lions, Redskins, Saints, Steelers

Teams Starting Camp Friday: Bears, Bills, Browns, Colts, Giants, Packers, Panthers, Rams, Titans, Vikings

Teams Starting Training Camp Sunday: Jets & Texans

The remaining 10 teams will start camp on Wednesday.

jaymo76
07-25-2011, 11:16 AM
The remaining 10 teams will start camp on Wednesday.

Good to see Oakland going back on WEDNESDAY. They definitely don't need extra time to workout/bond as a team. Al Davis you are the man! :(

psusnoop
07-25-2011, 12:56 PM
AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
NFLPA approves deal. Done.

1:52pm
http://twitter.com/#!/AdamSchefter

JBHuskers
07-25-2011, 01:53 PM
Are you ready for some football?

The Evolution of the Touchdown Dance


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfqcB2LWdZY

skipwondah33
07-25-2011, 02:36 PM
Wooooooooooooooo!

psuexv
07-25-2011, 09:24 PM
So I haven't really been following the NFL offseason too much but keep hearing about all the FAs. Is there just an abnormal amount or does it have anything to do with the lockout and the new CBA. If the lockout wouldn't have happened would it still have been a big FA year?

JBHuskers
07-26-2011, 01:09 AM
Paul Posluszny to test free agency (LB Da Bears shoulda drafted in the first place)....

Looks like the Ravens will clean house with Mason, Heap, and McGehee.

JBHuskers
07-26-2011, 01:09 AM
So I haven't really been following the NFL offseason too much but keep hearing about all the FAs. Is there just an abnormal amount or does it have anything to do with the lockout and the new CBA. If the lockout wouldn't have happened would it still have been a big FA year?

There's always a lot of talk in the FA signing period, there are usually big signings every off season.

mrh61988
07-26-2011, 01:26 AM
So where do you guys think Namdi lands? I think the Texans may be the spot. The Bucs have a ton of cap room but there have been reports ever since March that he had no interest in going there.

psusnoop
07-26-2011, 09:23 AM
Paul Posluszny to test free agency (LB Da Bears shoulda drafted in the first place)....

Looks like the Ravens will clean house with Mason, Heap, and McGehee.

Poz would look great in black and gold!

Should be a really fun week to see where things play out. The steelers have to answer about CB Taylor which is interesting.

psuexv
07-26-2011, 09:51 AM
There's always a lot of talk in the FA signing period, there are usually big signings every off season.

yeah I understand that, but this year it just seems like there is an abnormal amount of talk about it. I was just wondering if there was something with the CBA ending there were more than normal.

gschwendt
07-26-2011, 10:00 AM
yeah I understand that, but this year it just seems like there is an abnormal amount of talk about it. I was just wondering if there was something with the CBA ending there were more than normal.
I think it's just that since teams couldn't sign their players, it left months of speculation about which players might or might not be re-signed.

SmoothPancakes
07-26-2011, 10:06 AM
I think it's just that since teams couldn't sign their players, it left months of speculation about which players might or might not be re-signed.

Plus that it's going to a giant Free Agency circus as teams try to get players signed fast as they can with camps already starting tomorrow.

morsdraconis
07-26-2011, 10:34 AM
Not only that, but a BUNCH of teams have to hit the floor limit for the cap now ($110.5 million, if I'm not mistaken) instead of basically pocketing the extra money they aren't spending on players from the cap limit from before.

You have teams like the 49ers and the Seahawks who are $50 or $60 million below that right now and have to find some way of getting up to that point.

There is going to be some serious money thrown around during this VERY brief free agency period.

SmoothPancakes
07-26-2011, 10:51 AM
Not only that, but a BUNCH of teams have to hit the floor limit for the cap now ($110.5 million, if I'm not mistaken) instead of basically pocketing the extra money they aren't spending on players from the cap limit from before.

You have teams like the 49ers and the Seahawks who are $50 or $60 million below that right now and have to find some way of getting up to that point.

There is going to be some serious money thrown around during this VERY brief free agency period.

That too. With the floor limit, like you said, teams are going to be throwing money all over the place to sign players to get up to the floor limit. So you're going to see teams like the 49ers, like the Seahawks, etc going after some of these high talent, but high priced, players, that they necessarily might not have in the past. They have to spend the money this year, so may as well try to get high talent players for that money. So it's going to be really interesting to see what teams can steal which players.

JBHuskers
07-29-2011, 03:40 PM
Whew....Forte is not holding out as previously reported.

gschwendt
07-29-2011, 03:51 PM
Reports are that the Jets have re-arranged several contracts of current players in order to be able to bring in Asomugha.

While it has potential to be awesome, one of the negatives I've heard about Asomugha is that he can only cover one side of the field whereas Revis will go where-ever his receiver lines up. That would be a negative because then that limits Revis' ability if Asomugha won't move around.

JBHuskers
07-29-2011, 03:57 PM
Hi, my name is Chad and I'm going to kiss your ass so you can get me the damn ball.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-sKDeXa7i2Og/TjMeGakzF0I/AAAAAAAAAek/pyG4Fbq5Ujg/w402/Brady_and_Ocho_greeting.jpeg

psusnoop
07-29-2011, 04:16 PM
Reports are that the Jets have re-arranged several contracts of current players in order to be able to bring in Asomugha.

While it has potential to be awesome, one of the negatives I've heard about Asomugha is that he can only cover one side of the field whereas Revis will go where-ever his receiver lines up. That would be a negative because then that limits Revis' ability if Asomugha won't move around.

That is interesting, I hadn't heard that I guess. This would be a pretty big negative in my eyes.

gschwendt
07-29-2011, 05:18 PM
Asomugha a Philadelphia Eagle.

SmoothPancakes
07-29-2011, 05:23 PM
Asomugha a Philadelphia Eagle.

Wow. The Eagles swoop in and steal Asomugha from the Jets. Sucks to be the Jets after all they did to try and get him.

JBHuskers
07-29-2011, 05:38 PM
Asomugha + Rogers-Cromartie :sick:

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jaymo76
07-29-2011, 05:55 PM
Asomugha a Philadelphia Eagle.

Didn't see that one coming... I love the guy but can't cheer for him anymore... :(

psuexv
07-29-2011, 06:51 PM
Asomugha + Rogers-Cromartie :sick:

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Rogers-Cromartie is overrated

psusnoop
07-29-2011, 09:53 PM
Asomugha a Philadelphia Eagle.

Wow, didn't see that coming at all.

JBHuskers
07-29-2011, 11:36 PM
Last year, Sam Bradford got $50M guaranteed. What a difference a CBA makes...Cam Newton's ENTIRE contract = $22M. All guaranteed.

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SmoothPancakes
07-30-2011, 02:27 AM
Last year, Sam Bradford got $50M guaranteed. What a difference a CBA makes...Cam Newton's ENTIRE contract = $22M. All guaranteed.

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It's about time. While Bradford did pretty decent considering he got thrown to the wolves right off the bat and didn't even get one game to sit and watch and learn, it has been absolutely retarded to give these guys contracts worth $40, $50 million before they have even played a single down of NFL ball, just because of where they were drafted.

Paakaa10
07-30-2011, 08:50 AM
It's about time. While Bradford did pretty decent considering he got thrown to the wolves right off the bat and didn't even get one game to sit and watch and learn, it has been absolutely retarded to give these guys contracts worth $40, $50 million before they have even played a single down of NFL ball, just because of where they were drafted.

Link to a story I wrote for The Sports Geeks about rookie contracts in May 2010: http://thesportsgeeks.com/2010/05/12/an-nfl-rookie-salary-cap-the-1st-step-to-improving-the-league-in-the-next-cba/

I pretty much agree with your post, but with pictures, data, and statistical analysis.

SmoothPancakes
07-30-2011, 09:00 AM
Link to a story I wrote for The Sports Geeks about rookie contracts in May 2010: http://thesportsgeeks.com/2010/05/12/an-nfl-rookie-salary-cap-the-1st-step-to-improving-the-league-in-the-next-cba/

I pretty much agree with your post, but with pictures, data, and statistical analysis.

Nice! Thanks for the link Paakaa. I'll give it a read-through when I get a chance in a bit. :up:

SmoothPancakes
07-30-2011, 09:01 PM
I always knew Brandon Marshall had issues when he was with the Broncos.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=sportsxchange-000373668_dolphins-brandon-marshall-diagnosed-with-mental-illness


Dolphins’ Brandon Marshall diagnosed with mental illness

Former Denver Broncos and current Miami Dolphins receiver Brandon Marshall(notes) has been diagnosed with a borderline personality disorder, according to early Sunday editions of the Sun-Sentinel newspaper in Florida.

The paper reported that Marshall, 27, underwent three months of psychological and neurological exams at Boston's McLean Hospital, one of the premier teaching schools for Harvard University medical students. It was after the evaluation that Marshall was diagnosed with mental illness, with issues ranging from controlling moods and emotions to relationship difficulties.

That could partly explain why Marshall has been arrested several times for domestic disputes. Coincidentally on Friday, Marshall's wife, Michi Nogami-Marshall, had charges dropped against her related to an April incident in which she allegedly stabbed her husband in the abdomen.

Marshall has informed the Dolphins of his condition and intends to speak out publicly in hopes of raising awareness of BPD.

"I'll be the face of BPD," Marshall told the newspaper. "I'll make myself vulnerable if it saves someone's life because I know what I went through this summer helped save mine.

"By no means am I all healed or fixed," he added, "but it's like a light bulb has been turned on in my dark room."

The Dolphins acquired Marshall from Denver in April 2010 in a trade. He led Miami receivers last season with 1,014 receiving yards.

JBHuskers
07-30-2011, 10:14 PM
:up: finally some good news for Da Bears in this offseason, signing Marion Barber.

SmoothPancakes
07-30-2011, 10:15 PM
:up: finally some good news for Da Bears in this offseason, signing Marion Barber.

They need to change their name to the Da Cowboys Rejects.

JBHuskers
07-30-2011, 10:18 PM
They need to change their name to the Da Cowboys Rejects.

No kidding, 3 of them signed.

SmoothPancakes
07-31-2011, 07:40 AM
Eagles keep it going. Sign veteran guard Evan Mathis.

Nnamdi Asomugha, Jason Babin, Cullen Jenkins, Vince Young, Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, now Evan Mathis. Good lord.

As Mark Schlereth just put it on Sportscenter, the Eagles are looking more and more like the Duke brothers, Randolph and Mortimer Duke, trying to corner the frozen concentrated orange juice market.

baseballplyrmvp
07-31-2011, 01:04 PM
i cant believe we're gonna cut lofa tatupu. :(

psuexv
08-01-2011, 09:17 AM
Word is the Eagles are also looking at Moss

psusnoop
08-01-2011, 09:29 AM
Word is the Eagles are also looking at Moss

:sick:

Deuce
08-01-2011, 09:32 AM
I can't believe Jerry Jones is doing nothing. All Dallas had done is cut pro bowlers from a 6-10 team. Granted, they aren't going to miss any of them too much but who the hell is going to replace them? Rookies apparently...

Eagles are looking scary good.

morsdraconis
08-01-2011, 09:42 AM
:smh:

Philthy trying to buy a championship.

They better win one this year, cause, next year, they're gonna be cutting some fools to get back under the cap.

JBHuskers
08-01-2011, 09:44 AM
I can't believe Jerry Jones is doing nothing. All Dallas had done is cut pro bowlers from a 6-10 team. Granted, they aren't going to miss any of them too much but who the hell is going to replace them? Rookies apparently...

Eagles are looking scary good.

And they all went to the Bears :D

JBHuskers
08-01-2011, 11:27 AM
People & media are really trying to villify the Eagles .... no they are not another Miami Heat....not even close.

psusnoop
08-01-2011, 12:14 PM
People & media are really trying to villify the Eagles .... no they are not another Miami Heat....not even close.

Yea I have been listening to ESPN radio and they have been chatting about this numerous times today.

morsdraconis
08-01-2011, 12:17 PM
LeWhine Blames they are not, but that doesn't change the fact that Philthy has the worst fans ever.

psusnoop
08-01-2011, 12:23 PM
LeWhine Blames they are not, but that doesn't change the fact that Philthy has the worst fans ever.

:+1: they are TERRIBLE. Went as a 15yr old to the Steelers vs Eagles game. WOW, left quite the impression I must admit and not a good one that is for sure. Pretty much despised them ever since :nod:

psusnoop
08-01-2011, 12:38 PM
Word is the Eagles are also looking at Moss


Moss retiring?

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6823929/randy-moss-retire-13-seasons-153-touchdowns

I'm still skeptical of this, if a team throws him some money he'll jump all over it. This is just drawing a line in the sand and making the teams take notice in my opinion.

JBHuskers
08-01-2011, 12:38 PM
Moss has retired....enjoy the HoF in a few years, Randy.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmJcUlrkMNg

skipwondah33
08-01-2011, 12:39 PM
Damn one of my favorite athletes since watching him play since he was in High School. I'm guessing he wanted to return to the Pats but couldn't.

JBHuskers
08-01-2011, 12:42 PM
Wow, Giants re-signed Ahmad Bradshaw....didn't think that would happen.

JBHuskers
08-01-2011, 12:55 PM
Since I posted some DJ Steve Porter just a minute ago, it's only fitting I post this :up:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exOxUAntx8I

jaymo76
08-01-2011, 02:11 PM
Damn one of my favorite athletes since watching him play since he was in High School. I'm guessing he wanted to return to the Pats but couldn't.

As a Raiders fan, he wasn't that much fun to watch in Oakland... :)