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Rudy
09-01-2019, 02:22 PM
Full game out Friday. 44.89 GBs. I’m not waiting for a deal this year. Buying digital to get the theme. The first step quickness looks to be a huge improvement over 2K19.

Rudy
09-03-2019, 06:32 PM
Incorrect info apparently on file size. It will be 73 GB and you can download it tomorrow. Unlocks Friday. Still waiting to hear about camera angles! Want to make sure that Nosebleeds and Skybox are still in the game after missing from the demo.

Rudy
09-05-2019, 10:23 AM
I bought it last night and did the pre-download. Of course the power glitched and my Pro was slow to download (much slower than my Slim for some reason) and got cut off. Should be good for tomorrow. All camera angles are in! Happy about that. On OS, 23 stated that the WNBA games are good and will be an underrated addition to the game. I guess the new guy working on player faces is doing an incredible job. Kawhi looked fantastic.

New game mode coming at the start of the season.

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Rudy
09-06-2019, 07:06 AM
Played my first game this morning (6 minute quarters) with my Pistons vs the Raptors. Pistons roster not done that well. Starting lineup is wrong as D.Rose should be PG2 among other things.

Anyways I played on default All-Pro and the default settings are way better than default All-Pro 2K19. It was also easier as I beat the Raptors 67-50 and my sliders last year were boosted to my benefit. One game but it did feel easier. Some notes:
*pre game and in-game splash graphics a bit different (player intro and when you score). I'd still like to see some of their video be in real 4K. Seeing Joe Louis arm a bit grainy on my 65" 4K TV would be nicer in real 4K!
*game does feel a bit slow/sluggish although I had jacked up acceleration in 2K19 to 70 and I'm going to live with this and see how it goes. I do wish jogging/bringing the ball up the floor was a bit quicker without needing turbo. I've never been a turbo machine other than on fast breaks so the new stamina/turbo penalties did not impact me at all.
*dribbling and blow byes are so much better than 2K19. Just going to delete that game. Had to make extreme slider adjustments last year to reduce stone wall defenses of the cpu, even in bad matchups. This year my guards don't always get by but their dribble moves and first steps are nice. Conversely, I was trying to dribble with Sekou and that's pretty much an automatic turnover. Last year the reach ins and steals were way over done imo but this year you will only see that against guys who shouldn't be handling it. Only 3-4 turnovers all game for each of us in my first game.
*I love the defensive circle. I've always been a bad defensive player and this helps. I didn't go for any steals but just seeing the direction helps me. I still got blown by a little but I really like it
*Interior shots better. Last year on default the close shots (not dunks/layups) went in too high imo. They should be closer to 60% or less and 2K20 is a lot better. Contested shots in the paint miss a lot. Saw quite a few blocks too. The post game still seemed fairly easy although I was using Blake. Kind of wish they had a separate slider for the post game vs close shots. Love seeing the contested shot percentage for EVERY shot this year.
*Offensive rebounding. The Raptors only got 3 on me but I got 17! Dre had 15 rebounds but the game stats no longer break it out between off and defensive (was it in there last year?). He was a monster on the offensive glass and probably the biggest reason I won. Dre is the premier offensive rebounder in the NBA so I don't know if this was OP or something to watch.
*Double teaming is overdone and dumb. Because Dre got a bunch of offensive rebounds, particularly in the first half and scored 6-8 points they started double teaming him! And that includes at the 3 point line where he isn't a threat. The logic needs to go back to 2K19 based on seeing some dumb things and reading other impressions. Dre should NEVER be double teamed on the perimeter.
*Lastly, 2K19 had really bad tendencies at release with very little 3 point shooting and I remember jacking up cpu tendencies to 100 for 3s. Toronto shot 3/10 from downtown out of 46 shots. That's a bit low but it's one game and just something I will watch more as I play. Looks like I'm a bit under the weather today and may have to stay home from work!

Overall it's just one game but there are a lot of things better than 2K19 with double teaming the one thing that is not.

Rudy
09-06-2019, 10:22 AM
I've played 3 more games since my initial one with the Pistons. I lost to Houston 69-47 with LAC. Not a fan of playing with the Clips actually but the main reasons were I was outrebounded offensively and I turned the ball over 11 times to their 0 (that's more like me). Then I played a WNBA game and won by 7 with Seattle over NY in a close game. I liked the step back 1 foot 3 pointers, the ball and the announcers were different but not an improvement imo. Finally I took my Pistons against the Celtics and wrecked them 56-34 as they shot only 30% from the floor.

Some further impressions:
*I like seeing the tip in attempts and would like to see more of them.
*I don't think offensive rebounding is over powered but you really see elite ones dominate.

*Something is off about All-Star. It's significantly easier than last year. I got the trophy for "Easy Being Green" for 10 green shots in a game and that is largely due to Free Throws. Last year I struggled on All-Star with free throws and probably shot a little under 70% as a team (not brutal but over a season it hurt). I am greening free throws now like you wouldn't believe. I do like the return of the FT% indicator based on release from 2K18. I really wish they would add user/cpu FT shooting sliders to the menu.
*All-Star shooting percentages. I must say in all 4 games I played both me and the cpu were under 50% shooting which was nice to see. Last year could get really inflated. That said the cpu stinks at making 3s which may be a problem. Against Houston they went 4-20. NY in the WNBA game went 1-8 and the Celtics just went 0-13. My percentages seem normal (30s mostly with one game 7/14). It seems All-Star is easier this year. Gonna have to tweak sliders or maybe even start on Superstar and tweak since the under the hood stuff (like FT shooting perhaps) is different. Overall I tend to turn the ball over a bit too much on All-Star but the cpu isn't shooting well enough from mid-range and particularly 3s.

*Points in the paint and shooting in the paint does seem on the high side. There are some good blocks but outside shooting, mainly for the cpu on All-Star needs a boost.
*Double teams haven't been brutal in my last few games but they do seem to happen too quick. Anyone makes 3 buckets and they start double teaming. Sometimes it has caused turnovers but other times they leave people wide open. It needs to be toned down and smarter.

Still really liking this game. A nice upgrade over 2K19. The PS4 Pro fan is kicking in even more than last year tho.

Rudy
09-06-2019, 10:55 AM
On a side note, the half time show for WNBA is bare bones. No announcing crew, just silent highlights and I skipped it pretty quick. Blake Griffin has a heavier beard (true) this year.

While the WNBA has Play Now, Season mode and player specific commentary there is no MyLeague. So no draft or anything apparently.

Rudy
09-06-2019, 11:28 AM
I’m an idiot. They DO have Free Throw Difficulty for the User in sliders this year. Don’t have a cpu slider but this is great. Needs to be harder this year imo.

Rudy
09-06-2019, 01:07 PM
Played two more games and am done for a bit. Beat Mil in OT with Portland but the Bucks were constantly double teaming Dame or CJ. Fairly annoying.

Then played NO with Sac and I lost by 20. Shot like garbage and that team is garbage. You have Fox and Heild and Heild shot garbage. Joseph sucked for me and the rest of the team is crap. I need to use teams I know better.

Rudy
09-06-2019, 07:04 PM
The game looks great by the way. I enjoyed watching Hardens animations. I need to see other teams more though. Bledsoe is more muscular than some skinny guys but I think it could be more exaggerated still.

The default roster depth charts aren’t good. Auto subs are decent but they still don’t give your bench enough playing time as you allocated. Starters usually end up with more no matter what. Hard to get them to do a super sub 6th man right.

Rudy
09-07-2019, 04:21 AM
With all the sliders they have in the game it is nice to see they aren’t complacent and sit on their hands. They did add user FT slider although it only moves in increments of 5. And after the complaints about illegal screens that was added as a slider under the foul section. The EA Madden team should take notes. Their sliders are pathetic.

Mike Wang said you do get a shooting boost if you turn the shot meter off to help offset.

Also the full court double team is a bug the 2K team is working on. Hopefully patched sooner than later.

I’ve always felt their was a delay at the jump ball but this year feels like the worst. I don’t know if I am supposed to wait until way after the ref releases it but it’s off imo.

I do feel the game should be a bit more explosive. I’ve got Acceleration at 60 for both and it feels better to me.

Rudy
09-07-2019, 07:54 AM
I’ve played 10 or 11 games now on All-Star. Game is a lot of fun. Double teaming doesn’t always happen but when it does it’s overdone and annoying.

I really feel All-Star has been made easier. FT shooting definitely is. It’s a lot easier to get to the paint and I love the new quick step and dribble system. But it’s also made it a lot more of a points in the paint type of game. Especially since outside shooting seems tough. The cpu is ice cold from the outside on all star. Just messing with sliders but I don’t think there is anything we can’t fine-tune offline other than the double teams.

Game looks great and really enjoying it. Taking a star player when matches against a scrub can be a lot of fun. Was breaking some ankles with guys in good matchups.

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Rudy
09-07-2019, 09:48 PM
The double team goofiness is going to be fixed and I guess doesn’t need a patch. Not sure exactly what they are changing and how but it’s supposed to get fixed in a few days.

Rudy
09-08-2019, 05:39 AM
Have to say I’m not a fan of playing with the Raptors. Losing Kawhi and Green really hurts their perimeter game. Ibaka off the bench is a luxury they need to move for shooting imo.

Anyways, had a nice acrobatic shot with Lowry. Some of the hit the floor animations seem update and cool. This game does make my Pro scream a lot. Even when just checking stats. Why? A little concerned. Way worse than 2K19.

The uniform selection screen is WAY better. Can easily cycle through options and pick colours of accessories. I think last year you could only cycle through options in one direction.

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Rudy
09-08-2019, 06:22 AM
Cpu defenders are a lot smarter now in how they play their opponent. If you have good dribble moves they back off a little and won’t gamble much on steals. If you stink at dribbling they will press you more and go for steals. If you are a good perimeter shooter they play tight AND will bite on pump fakes. 2K18 had no pump fakes vs cpu, last year was a little better and this year a nice sweet spot. With Luke Kennard (not impressed with only 84 three point rating, ranked (https://www.2kratings.com/nba-2k20-top-3-point-shooters) 36) he has been able to get this defender in Atlanta up a couple of times in the first half alone. Very nice.

Rudy
09-08-2019, 11:39 AM
I’m guessing the reason the cpu seems easier this year is that the game stayed tuned at similar levels but the cpu now has varied release successes instead of good releases all the time resulting in worse outside shooting. Curious if they patch this or leave it to slider guys offline.

Rudy
09-08-2019, 04:15 PM
I don’t have a post face up game. I’m a back to your basket guy. Might have to work on this.


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Rudy
09-09-2019, 06:59 AM
Played another two games this morning. In a little bit of a struggle to contain the high scoring percentages at the rim. The one annoying game was losing to the Cavs. Nantz got 4-5 alley oops. There is very little I can do about those when I can't even see them and am not guarding Nantz. No way should it be lob city in the half court with Dre guarding him. First time I've been annoyed this year with that so I will turn down alley oop success and tendencies.

A little bit of slider madness right now. I'm close but the points in paint issue is still bugging me. I think help rotation on All Star could be better. Outside shooting can be fixed (mainly cpu too weak) with sliders but the FT success seems too high for both. Hopefully they look into it.

I think I need to start a season soon. I've played roughly 15 games. I'd love to start tracking the full stats already.

Rudy
09-09-2019, 07:10 AM
Apparently the online 2K community is upset with the game. Some freezing or not getting MyPlayer Rep or something. FireRonny2K and fix2k are trending on Twitter.

Rudy
09-09-2019, 10:36 AM
Just testing the echo chamber in here lol. Anyone else picked the game up or plan to at some point?

Rudy
09-09-2019, 12:02 PM
My first in game injury! Reggie Jackson takes a hard screen and suffers a rib injury.

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Rudy
09-10-2019, 03:55 AM
Small patch yesterday.

I’d like to see them patch a tiny detail for sliders. When I switch between user and human please don’t bring me back to the top of the menu. Leave it at the same spot please. I thought it was like that in ‘19 but not this year.

Also, the lag on tipoffs is really long this year. Ball goes up let us jump immediately please. Not sure why there is such a delay.

Just noticed after the patch they have a defensive coverage percentage indicator on every player. It’s distracting at first. I think I may like it but am not sure lol. It doesn’t always show up. Not sure why either.

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Rudy
09-10-2019, 05:13 AM
I think stamina is punished harder now. I use auto subs and I see guys getting more tired. By end of game quite a few Gatorade symbols. And maybe as a result I saw my second in game injury. Right wrist to Giannis on a loose ball.

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Rudy
09-11-2019, 04:57 AM
One thing I’m not happy with is the removal of ratings for players. There are no longer contested shot ratings, shooting on the move or a few other things. That’s a very poor decision imo. Pure shooters can still shoot well in lightly contested situations while guys like Valenciunus or Gasol and some players can shoot the 3 well but only when absolutely wide open or they won’t even try. Now the game relies solely on badges for that stuff. Shoot off pick and roll or off the catch or steady shooter to avoid contested penalties. It’s not as good and some people are rightly upset. Surprised they would take a back step to sim in this area.

Rudy
09-11-2019, 06:17 AM
User FT slider definitely broken. Does virtually nothing. Can’t see much difference between 0 and 50. Hope they fix it.

Double teams much better now. Less frequent and smarter.

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Rudy
09-11-2019, 08:34 PM
Good pick setters can really knock a guy back this year. I’ve seen Reggie get injured and in this last game a subtle stumble by Bruce Brown. When playing the Heat at home with the Pistons the crowd started a “Beat the Heat!” Chant in the 4th that was cool. I do think the DHO could be better and they don’t execute the handoff sometimes. Almost wonder if ‘19 might be a bit better here when running it manually.

The dribbling is a lot more subtle and realistic. You can’t just put your head down and drive or mash special moves. Sometimes you just drift and wait for an opening. I need to get better at being more patient.

2K has taken a lot of heat from the online community due to some bugs and glitches and they have said they are working hard. I haven’t followed some of the MyPlayer bugs but I think MuLeague has player option contract issues. I can wait. Just doing Play Now all the time.

Rudy
09-12-2019, 05:27 PM
You can really notice the defensive attributes. Reggie Jackson on the Pistons can’t guard people (most of their wings are like that). Some guys and teams I play you can beat the guys off the dribble fairly easily. Then you play against a good defensive player like Lonzo Ball or Butler or anyone with the Clamps badge and it’s a completely different story. Far more differentiation in that regard compared to last year.

Also, don’t forget to flick up sometimes with your dribble move. Just a basic crossover or signature move that looks really natural when you are starting to attack or run the offence.

Rudy
09-13-2019, 05:32 AM
Paul George destroyed me on offence. And the defence of Beverly, PG and Kawhi really made me struggle shooting outside with Harden or getting to the rack with Westbrook at times. But this was a sweet move and dunk.

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Rudy
09-14-2019, 07:40 AM
Played 3 games this morning after the patch. Seemed pretty similar to me. Cpu gave me a bit of a harder challenge perhaps. Seemed like they blocked a few more shots and maybe were more aggressive in going for steals but overall I’m not sure I would have said anything was different if I didn’t notice there was a patch.

I’m still enjoying the game. I do think the drive and kick game is weak. I’d like to see more of that. Most of my stats are good though. I like the points in paint I’m getting, fast break, off rebounds. Can’t really complain about too much for me although I would like to see a few more 3s. Errant pass turnovers are too low but I find those frustrating so I don’t mind lol.

The user FT slider in Play Now is still broken. Put it a 0 or 50 or 100 and it doesn’t really matter. Still way too easy to make FTs on all star. Went 10/10 with Pistons in last game. I’m not joking when I say I might have hit 29 of my last 30 in game. Maybe when I go to MyLeague and have those other sliders I can fix it but I’m surprised nobody else in Play Now is noticing how easy it is to hit FTs. And last year I was just under 70% as a team on AS so something has changed quite a bit. It’s my biggest pet peeve atm.

the quick sub menu is glitchy at times. Sometimes you hit the button and nothing seems to happen. And heaven help me if I do it on an in bound play. Do not do that as sometimes it locks you out and you suffer a 5 second violation.

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Rudy
09-16-2019, 07:14 AM
I finally started a franchise (MyLeague). I've read there are issues with team options on contracts after year one. Not crazy about the fact the default rosters don't have my two way players or the Pistons draft and stash Lithunian but I want to get started. I've also read that morale plays a bigger factor this year although there are sliders to help with chemistry and morale. There are specific game style sliders for MyLeague but I plan on leaving that on default.

Was down 14 to the Bulls in my first game as they were hot from downtown early (5/7). I heated up in the second half and took game 1 of the season. Looking forward to tracking stats.

If anyone wants to check out my sliders they can here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RKmUNXm3MZyHSmIYPIiV9a5choqSsUv0IFqkE4VXY08/edit?usp=sharing. I've also got them loaded to 2KShare (under rudyjuly2, name rudyonline).

Rudy
09-17-2019, 07:35 AM
There are definitely glitches with the sub menus. You shouldn't try to do it on dead balls as I've said. Furthermore, the game no longer automatically subs in your starters for the 2nd half. Whoever ended up on the first floor at the buzzer comes out for the second half. To avoid this there is a down arrow d-pad quick sub before the second half starts. I hit it, select starters, and it's not working.

Rudy
09-18-2019, 06:48 PM
Free throw shooting is broken.

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Rudy
09-19-2019, 02:15 PM
Reading people say the speed is constantly changing, even offline, in NBA 2K20 didn't make sense to me. I haven't experienced outside 1 update. Mike Wang confirms.

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Rudy
09-20-2019, 06:05 AM
I don’t know if the last update did anything but I reset my difficulty to all star and reloaded my sliders. Now I’ve seen a missed free throw! In fact the cpu only went 6-10 and I missed my first free throw! Through 9 games now I’m shooting 98.5% from the line lol. I’m seeing realistic FT percentage probabilities on release now instead of always super high ones. Not sure if this was a bug or what.

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Rudy
09-22-2019, 12:00 PM
A few people on OS were complaining about rebounding and while there may be some concerns at times I think it’s good. After 15 games of a season with Detroit my offensive rebound percentage is 31.4% which is good because of Dre. The cpu offensive rebound % against me is 24.6%. I see no issues with that overall.

I’m glad the rebounding ratings matter this year. You want to play small ball you will get hurt on the glass. It makes players like Drummond and Capela more valuable instead of automatically being guys that you look to dump because they can’t create or shoot 3s. Are some of those players a little over powered individually on the offensive glass? Probably. But so are most offensive stars who you can dominate with and score tons of points with too. Much like good defensive players, especially those with clamps, the ratings really matter this year and I’m glad the defensive and rebounding specialists stand out instead of being useless like in the past.

I never see anyone complain that they score too much with their big scorers. But as soon as an offensive rebound specialist gets a few extra against them they start whining. I think the 2K game has really made players stand out based on their strengths. I’d much rather have a sports video game where great players are really noticed instead of teams feeling very generic which has long been a complaint of virtually all EA games.

Rudy
09-24-2019, 05:40 AM
Dre with the block and catch!

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Rudy
09-26-2019, 09:34 PM
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Rudy
09-27-2019, 05:39 AM
In MyLeague they have home court advantage. You see the rating at the beginning of the game. LCA was a B+ to start but now I am a little above .500 and it went up to A- after 20+ games.

Rudy
09-28-2019, 03:53 PM
This might not be a Griffin signature move but he does flop a bit with contact and his reaction here is great en route to a dunk.

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Rudy
09-28-2019, 05:31 PM
I have the speed threshold sliders at 85/15 to address the lack of speed differences in some players. It was supposed to be a main feature this year but some slow bigs can keep up to people. Gonna be addressed in the next patch.

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Rudy
09-30-2019, 06:02 AM
Tear drop. I will also say that I just finished my 29 game season and I never suffered an injury. Saw some in Play now but not season. Twice in my season I got fouled on a 3 pointer. Something I never saw last year.

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Rudy
10-01-2019, 05:15 AM
Patch was released yesterday and all of their big patches have been really large. Wondering if they are adding uniforms or other visual stuff because they are like 30 GBs. One of the big changes is they corrected big men speed. Slow players can’t keep up with people now and it is very noticeable. I had my movement sliders at 85/15 and that bottom number has to come up about 20 points or maybe more now.

Rudy
10-02-2019, 05:46 AM
The one thing that could be better is the cpu doesn’t kick out after offensive rebounds. 23 on OS thinks of you lower close and inside shot tendencies it might improve but I’m not looking to change my sliders much anymore. They have been pretty similar for 15 games and I haven’t touched the main shooting or defence sliders for awhile.

Derrick Rose finish:

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Rudy
10-07-2019, 07:25 AM
I didn't even realize there was a mentorship program in the game. I have now asked Blake Griffin to take Sekou under his wing in year two. You can pick up to 3 badges for them to be trained on.

Rudy
10-10-2019, 07:12 AM
Since the patch I think the movement sliders have to go back to default. Pre-patch the difference between bigs and quick players was too minimal. It was a HUGE change with the patch so default is a lot better now. A new patch is expected soon.

My second snatch block!

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Rudy
10-11-2019, 12:41 PM
New patch added Harden one foot fade away. I personally have a feeling that thing will disappear since I haven’t seen him use it with much success in preseason.

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Rudy
10-14-2019, 07:03 AM
I don’t think injury and durability sliders work in game. I’ve played around 50 league games and not a single injury.

I don’t think I’ve seen this foul animation.

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Rudy
10-14-2019, 07:29 AM
Maybe its different or maybe I haven’t been paying enough attention but I think the cpu has done a much better job on defensive rotations vs the pick and pop. If they double the ball carrier they rotate over to avoid an easy open 3 and it forces an extra pass to find the open man. It’s a big improvement over last year.

Rudy
10-16-2019, 06:48 AM
I am still numb.

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Rudy
11-02-2019, 05:47 AM
This is a great example of the improved defensive rotations this year. The cpu will double the post or double the ball on a pick and pop but they don’t leave the easiest pass wide open. You have to move it to get the open shot. Much better than the last two years.

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Rudy
11-15-2019, 04:53 AM
This latest patch has finally fixed the stuttering issue some PS4 Pro users had. I didn’t have them but many did and it’s fixed. Some think they turned down the sweat to help.

I’m seeing more steals on the perimeter right now too. Not a bad thing though. Have to be careful with the ball a bit more now.

Kevin Hoffmann
12-04-2019, 05:05 PM
This latest patch has finally fixed the stuttering issue some PS4 Pro users had. I didn’t have them but many did and it’s fixed. Some think they turned down the sweat to help free slots for fun (https://777spinslot.com/slots-for-fun/)
I’m seeing more steals on the perimeter right now too. Not a bad thing though. Have to be careful with the ball a bit more now.

Frankly speaking, I agree

Rudy
12-09-2019, 08:45 AM
This is the first time I've done a back down dunk. It was cool but it's also a game weakness. With a mismatch like this they need to send help and most of the time the cpu won't.

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Rudy
12-09-2019, 08:47 AM
This is the first time I've done a back down dunk. It was cool but it's also a game weakness. With a mismatch like this they need to send help and most of the time the cpu won't.

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morsdraconis
12-12-2019, 03:42 AM
Hmm... Maybe I should give this game a try sometime in the future after all. I've been avoiding 2k since the whole fiasco with the monetization stuff and all that, but if the game actually plays okay, I can look past that stuff. Interesting. Have you or do you ever play around with the MyPlayer stuff? That's usually what I dive into if I do end up getting any of the NBA 2k games.

Rudy
12-12-2019, 03:47 AM
I’ve never played the MyPlayer thing although I need to try it sometime. But I have no impressions for that. Sorry.

Not sure why my last post got duplicated. A mod can delete that one.

morsdraconis
12-12-2019, 09:18 AM
That's not a big deal. I always try to get into the MyLeague stuff but the amount of games needed to be played is always so daunting and I just don't have time for it, sadly. Kinda the same way with the MyPlayer stuff, except you're crazy to skip any games because it makes the process of you leveling up and getting better from the ~60ovr that you start that much longer.

Rudy
12-25-2019, 07:26 AM
A couple highlights.

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jaymo76
03-17-2020, 01:47 AM
I've played this a bit on Gamepass. While it's fin, it is such a grind to progress your player.

Brandon322
06-12-2020, 05:40 AM
Wow, thanks for the info. I am an aspiring NBA player. Maybe there are games that I should play before the classic game.